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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Speedway, the Motor Speedway, the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
You've heard of that before, right, yeahc driven by many times.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Yes, by the way, it's Kenney Casey, Jean Rob Casey's here.
They are not happy about the Trump administration this detention
center that they're opening up in Miami.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Yep, the Miami Correctional Facility with.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
The Miami Correctional Facility Bunker Hill, Indiana. Because you don't know,
just get on thirty one, just head and you'll basically
run right into it. They are not happy about it
being dubbed the Speedway Slammer, and I don't blame them,
and I can't believe, first of all, how stupid these
people are, given the fact that the thing is like
an hour and a half away from Speedway, Indiana, and
(00:45):
that they thought, Hey, some nonpartisan group that is the
world's largest racecourse and prides itself on welcoming all people in,
wasn't going to give you a little pushback on that.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Well, part of the problem is that DHS shared an
ai I generated image and it's of an Indie car
and it has ICE branding on it, and it had
the number five. Well that's associated with Pato Award and
so Penske Entertainment, which owns the speedway. They stated they
were not informed and they requested that their intellectual property
(01:17):
not be used, and the Department of Homeland Security said, Nope,
we're not going to change the branding, and all of
these concerns over the intellectual property is absurd, and it's
going to be branded as Speedway Slammer.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Okay, So let's talk about that for a second, because
one of the things, and I recognize that somebody's going
to get big mad at me for saying this, but
this doesn't come off as serious like the alligator Alcatraz thing.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
It's sort of Desanti's brand. I guess, I don't know.
But now, when we're just coming up with nicknames forever everything,
and you're going out of your way to give it
a nickname, it takes away from the seriousness of the
issue and the stuff that is actually being done there. Now, look,
I canna get mad at me you're saying this and saying, oh,
(02:14):
you're being a whim or blah blah blah. The immigration
conversation is about should be as much about doing the
It should be about as winning the public over to
your side as doing the job itself. And what I
mean by that is it takes buy in for public policy.
It takes public buy in for public policy to be sustainable.
(02:37):
And so what I mean by that is in order
to continue to build these facilities, expand them, make sure
money can do to get allocated the representatives, the people
who are doing this have to believe that the public
at large is behind them. And I think the public
is behind them in the sense of they want the
job done. But the reality is probably thirty percent of
(02:59):
the populace. If that thirty percent of the populace is
a hardcore maga, everything Trump does is great, everything Trump
does is funny sort of person. There's a huge group
of people, including people who voted for Trump, who just
wanted the country change. They don't want this stuff thrown
in their face. They don't want things to be made
(03:20):
light of like this, because, yes, while there are going
to be many dangerous people there these facilities, there will
also there's a chance be fathers and people who are
not violent offenders and people who broke the law who
need to go back. I'm not arguing that they need
to be sent back, but you're dehumanizing and I'm saying
(03:41):
this is how people in the middle will view it.
I'm not saying that's how necessarily we view it. We're
tough that skinned people here, but people in the middle,
who you need to win elections, who you need to
keep the policy going, will view this as unseious behavior
and unnecessarily dehumanizing. Many of these people, even if they
(04:03):
believe they need to leave the country. And so by
making everything some joke or some nickname or whatever, you
run the risk of alienating the people you need to
keep the policy going.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Why does it have to have a brand like speedway Slammer?
We all know it's seventy miles away from the speedway,
so it's it's.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Not close to it.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Why can't it just be called the Miami Correctional Facility,
Like does it have to have this speedway slammer moniker?
And you know, when you think about the speedway, that's
a place you go to get your mind off of
everything else. It's a place that you go to to
relax and have some fun and auto racing and enjoy yourself.
(04:50):
And now you've got DHS taking a place we all
love and turning it into a place that's very polarizing.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, and especially like the alligator Alcatraz or whatever that was. Hey,
that was de Sands's thing. He's on board. It's in
the swamp. There's no branding with it in terms of
there's not a legitimate you know, play like Alcatraz is
a legitimate place. But I'm saying there's no commercial entity
that you've got to have, you know, approval of. It's
(05:22):
just a bad look and it starts to make And
this is one of the problems with Trump as president
is everybody's always trying to make everything so big and
such a spectacle. They're trying to always in everything done
in a government under Trump, they're trying to make it
trump esque. And the reality is somebody told me this
years ago when I first got elected, and I had
(05:43):
all these big ideas, and he said, okay, these are nice,
but he said, the most important things you're gonna do
are really boring stuff, things like making sure fawcets turn on,
making sure the toilet's flush, you know, making sure that
sidewalks are.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Repaired may sound boring, but when they're not there available
to it's a huge.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Deal, exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
And people actually judge their communities in the case of
what he was talking about with me on how do
the nuts and bolts work? Like when you look at
community surveys. All these communities do citizen surveys, and you
you used to see that where all the important things
weren't the bright shiny objects that it was the police,
the fire, the water, the sewer, the roads, the bridges,
(06:23):
the sidewalks, like that's always what scored at.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
The at the tippy top.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
That's so. But in the sense of this government is
boring the nuts and bolts of government, and some people
need to hear this more than others. It ain't how
flashy you can be. It ain't how many people you
can get in front of. It isn't what a spectacle
you make when you go somewhere. It's how do you
manage the nuts and bolts of the things that you
are in charge in. Because government is actually a job.
(06:50):
Government is actually a responsibility, and this is something that
should be done. These people should be apprehended, they should
be sent back to their countries of origin. It will
make America a better, safer place. But you do it
in a quiet, businesslike professional manner. You can give the
stats out, you can talk about what you're doing. There's
no problem with that. But when you're trying to make
(07:10):
it some sort of way a spectacle that many people,
especially people who voted for you, will view as dehumanizing,
you're doing yourself a disservice.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
So the borders are Tom Holman.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
He said that he doesn't know who named the initiative,
but hopes that the name doesn't overshadow the mission exactly,
and it will
The Speedway, the Motor Speedway, the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
You've heard of that before, right, yeahc driven by many times.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Yes, by the way, it's Kenney Casey, Jean Rob Casey's here.
They are not happy about the Trump administration this detention
center that they're opening up in Miami.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Yep, the Miami Correctional Facility with.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
The Miami Correctional Facility Bunker Hill, Indiana. Because you don't know,
just get on thirty one, just head and you'll basically
run right into it. They are not happy about it
being dubbed the Speedway Slammer, and I don't blame them,
and I can't believe, first of all, how stupid these
people are, given the fact that the thing is like
an hour and a half away from Speedway, Indiana, and
(00:45):
that they thought, Hey, some nonpartisan group that is the
world's largest racecourse and prides itself on welcoming all people in,
wasn't going to give you a little pushback on that.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Well, part of the problem is that DHS shared an
ai I generated image and it's of an Indie car
and it has ICE branding on it, and it had
the number five. Well that's associated with Pato Award and
so Penske Entertainment, which owns the speedway. They stated they
were not informed and they requested that their intellectual property
(01:17):
not be used, and the Department of Homeland Security said, Nope,
we're not going to change the branding, and all of
these concerns over the intellectual property is absurd, and it's
going to be branded as Speedway Slammer.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Okay, So let's talk about that for a second, because
one of the things, and I recognize that somebody's going
to get big mad at me for saying this, but
this doesn't come off as serious like the alligator Alcatraz thing.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
It's sort of Desanti's brand. I guess, I don't know.
But now, when we're just coming up with nicknames forever everything,
and you're going out of your way to give it
a nickname, it takes away from the seriousness of the
issue and the stuff that is actually being done there. Now, look,
I canna get mad at me you're saying this and saying, oh,
(02:14):
you're being a whim or blah blah blah. The immigration
conversation is about should be as much about doing the
It should be about as winning the public over to
your side as doing the job itself. And what I
mean by that is it takes buy in for public policy.
It takes public buy in for public policy to be sustainable.
(02:37):
And so what I mean by that is in order
to continue to build these facilities, expand them, make sure
money can do to get allocated the representatives, the people
who are doing this have to believe that the public
at large is behind them. And I think the public
is behind them in the sense of they want the
job done. But the reality is probably thirty percent of
(02:59):
the populace. If that thirty percent of the populace is
a hardcore maga, everything Trump does is great, everything Trump
does is funny sort of person. There's a huge group
of people, including people who voted for Trump, who just
wanted the country change. They don't want this stuff thrown
in their face. They don't want things to be made
(03:20):
light of like this, because, yes, while there are going
to be many dangerous people there these facilities, there will
also there's a chance be fathers and people who are
not violent offenders and people who broke the law who
need to go back. I'm not arguing that they need
to be sent back, but you're dehumanizing and I'm saying
(03:41):
this is how people in the middle will view it.
I'm not saying that's how necessarily we view it. We're
tough that skinned people here, but people in the middle,
who you need to win elections, who you need to
keep the policy going, will view this as unseious behavior
and unnecessarily dehumanizing. Many of these people, even if they
(04:03):
believe they need to leave the country. And so by
making everything some joke or some nickname or whatever, you
run the risk of alienating the people you need to
keep the policy going.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Why does it have to have a brand like speedway Slammer?
We all know it's seventy miles away from the speedway,
so it's it's.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Not close to it.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Why can't it just be called the Miami Correctional Facility,
Like does it have to have this speedway slammer moniker?
And you know, when you think about the speedway, that's
a place you go to get your mind off of
everything else. It's a place that you go to to
relax and have some fun and auto racing and enjoy yourself.
(04:50):
And now you've got DHS taking a place we all
love and turning it into a place that's very polarizing.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, and especially like the alligator Alcatraz or whatever that was. Hey,
that was de Sands's thing. He's on board. It's in
the swamp. There's no branding with it in terms of
there's not a legitimate you know, play like Alcatraz is
a legitimate place. But I'm saying there's no commercial entity
that you've got to have, you know, approval of. It's
(05:22):
just a bad look and it starts to make And
this is one of the problems with Trump as president
is everybody's always trying to make everything so big and
such a spectacle. They're trying to always in everything done
in a government under Trump, they're trying to make it
trump esque. And the reality is somebody told me this
years ago when I first got elected, and I had
(05:43):
all these big ideas, and he said, okay, these are nice,
but he said, the most important things you're gonna do
are really boring stuff, things like making sure fawcets turn on,
making sure the toilet's flush, you know, making sure that
sidewalks are.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Repaired may sound boring, but when they're not there available
to it's a huge.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Deal, exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
And people actually judge their communities in the case of
what he was talking about with me on how do
the nuts and bolts work? Like when you look at
community surveys. All these communities do citizen surveys, and you
you used to see that where all the important things
weren't the bright shiny objects that it was the police,
the fire, the water, the sewer, the roads, the bridges,
(06:23):
the sidewalks, like that's always what scored at.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
The at the tippy top.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
That's so. But in the sense of this government is
boring the nuts and bolts of government, and some people
need to hear this more than others. It ain't how
flashy you can be. It ain't how many people you
can get in front of. It isn't what a spectacle
you make when you go somewhere. It's how do you
manage the nuts and bolts of the things that you
are in charge in. Because government is actually a job.
(06:50):
Government is actually a responsibility, and this is something that
should be done. These people should be apprehended, they should
be sent back to their countries of origin. It will
make America a better, safer place. But you do it
in a quiet, businesslike professional manner. You can give the
stats out, you can talk about what you're doing. There's
no problem with that. But when you're trying to make
(07:10):
it some sort of way a spectacle that many people,
especially people who voted for you, will view as dehumanizing,
you're doing yourself a disservice.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
So the borders are Tom Holman.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
He said that he doesn't know who named the initiative,
but hopes that the name doesn't overshadow the mission exactly,
and it will
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