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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, let's say.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Not the end of our show now, I mean, at
least a far as we know, Well, you never know.
I mean, look, there's a lot of anything. First of all,
my last day of the year is Friday.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
This is true, Radiothon, That's right.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Yeah, but I love how you do that.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
Every year, bank all your vacation days to the end
of December. After Radiothon, you're like, Okay, I'm out, bye,
see you next year.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
And every year they're like, you will not be allowed
to do that. And then they're like, well, this guy
has so little going for him, let's just give it
to him.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
No, it's sympathy they have.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I had a good excuse this year though, because Libby's
daycare is closed, and I was like, look, I'm not
gonna be here one way another.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
You either give me the off days.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Or I'll just be insubordinate, right right, Like, I gotta
gotta do what I gotta do. But this is the
last our schedule to be We were told our final
program here at forty Monument Circle right tomorrow. They are saying, Now,
assuming all the buttons work right, they're saying, we're going
to debut at our new studios.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Do we know the address.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I'm not giving that out.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I'm sure they'll email it to us eventually. So how
long have you worked in this building.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I've been here since December of twenty sixteen. I was
brought in as a fill in guy. It took me
about six months to get in as a fill in guy,
and then I started out. Abdul used to have a
nighttime show. I started out filling in for him. I
(01:30):
did well enough with that that once the new year
came around that Hammer and Nigel knew they were getting
that afternoon show, but they had a night show for
a while. So of course Nigel was missing as much
work then as he is now. So I spent about
things never changed. I spent a lot of time as
the fill in guy for them. Did well enough with
that that then they started letting me do fill ins
(01:53):
for the morning show, at which point then they hired
me because I was doing They really, look, I was
a horrible producer.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
This will shock you.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I didn't care, and I wasn't really you're a horrible
producer now of our show.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
But they were like, this guy's so good as the
fill and we have to find something for him because
we're paying him so much money to be the filling guy,
we might as well just get some sort of full
time something. So they hired me to work with the
women and then become essentially the full time filling guy
for everybody. And then I was with the women what
for three and a half years, And then it was
me and Mock for a year, and now it's been
(02:29):
you and me for going what twenty two, twenty three,
twenty four, This will be our four We're coming up
on our fourth year. So that is my long and
winding road here at WIBC.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
You're at forty Monuments Circle.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
What was the building like when you first arrived and
what sort of changes or renovations have you noticed throughout
these years?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Well anything, Well, it's been fascinating.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
That how much the populace has changed the industry has
changed a lot, and how WIBC because of our audience,
Like all of this is because of our audience. Everything
I have, everything that you have. We have talent, we
have the ability to put shows together. But if our
audience wasn't as great as it is, none of this
would have lasted, certainly nine years. Casey, you have been
(03:10):
in management and radio for much of your life. How
many people make it anywhere in radio nine years? Oh,
that's pretty rare. Yeah, right, So it's normally a couple
of years and then you're out.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Especially someone who causes as many promises as me.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
That's true when the phone calls come in and it's
the complaints against you.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
But it is really a tribute to our audience, because
our audience. While the radio industry has really struggled and
we have obviously under new ownership, from where we were
when I started, WIBC remains an anomaly in this business
that we just keep moving forward like a freight train.
And almost every ratings book one, two or three, you're
(03:47):
gonna find WIBC right there in that.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
One, two or three slot.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
And we were two of the most recent book Nobody's
Beaten b one Z five seven during Christmas season. And
so that is really a tribute to our audience that
that has been the common thread throughout the nine years.
I mean, you think about what we went through. Trump
had just been elected the first time when I started here.
We've had all the Trump first presidency, the COVID, the riots,
(04:13):
the Biden years, the reemergence of Trump. We've had Hulcombe
be elected all this other one on with him. It's
the engagement of the WIBC audience and how wonderful and
amazing they are has been the point of commonality throughout
this whole my whole time here.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Yeah, do you have a favorite memory here or anything
naughty that you did here in this building that you
can finally.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Fess up to. Oh, I did a lot of auditings
building same.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
More words, so the family oriented program, okay, and those
were different times. But look, I just think I think
that the building and this the sounds look I other
than when I worked at the State House.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I never worked anywhere. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
I worked at we were always remote where you work
for yourself.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah, I never I had never. I mean I worked
very at very young age. I worked at a radio station.
But from basically twenty one on it was or twenty
two on, it was all me own my radio station
by streaming company. And then the brief time I went
into the state state government. But like, I'd never gone
(05:22):
to work every single day, I'd never been around co workers.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Like this was all foreign to me. When I know that.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Sounds ridiculous to say, but this was all all foreign
to me. And so the building is the point of commonality, right,
Like as a kid, you grew up coming here and
you would see, Now it wasn't WIBC on the circle
when I was a kid, but this building, these companies,
these frequencies were on the circle and you would you
would grow up seeing the marque, the WIBC headline, what
(05:52):
do they call it, the scrolling the news scroller out
on the circle, and you'd say, that's where I want
to be. I want to be in that building growing
up that that's the place I want to be. And
then you realize I made it right, and the building
almost becomes like a person. Right, the building becomes like
family because all of these events nine years long time.
(06:16):
It doesn't seem like it, but nine years this building
through all of the stuff, your life changes, your growth,
the birth of my daughter, all of these things. Right,
the building is the place you always came to and
came back to, and it's sort of like you're moving
on from that.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Well, I mean you've been here four years.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah, I have.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
And out of my thirty plus year career in media,
in this radio industry, I have gone through ownership changes
in the past. I have done format changes and I
have relocated, and out of all of those things, relocating
is one of the toughest things to do in radio
because it's such a technical field. It's not as tough
(07:01):
as television, because you could honestly mcguiver or radio station
with some duct tape, duct tape and a rubber band
and keep it on the air.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
But it should be a pretty seamless process.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
They should honestly flip one switch, maybe have a second
of dead air, flip another switch, and we'll be back on.
To the average listener, they won't notice the difference unless
they're watching on the YouTube feed. I think our new
studios are gonna be glorious. We're gonna have brand new equipment.
We're not gonna have the frustrations of things breaking down
(07:34):
or uh breaking down the bathroom making weird noises out
of nowhere. So I'm really excited about the new opportunity
for WIBC and what this can become, not only for
us and what we'll have to not deal with on
a daily basis, but for our viewers on the YouTube channel,
(07:57):
because I think they're going to see how the new
studios are gonna be great.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah, and when you close a chapter like guy, I've
always said this about WIBC. I have lived my dream,
especially the past five years with my own show. Yes,
it's been it's been a great dream if they came tomorrow,
because I always get the.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
People, I can't wait to fire you.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Bell will told for you.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
You've been at that for nine years. You people have
been very passionate for nine years. And it will happen eventually,
not because you cheer for it. It happens to everybody.
And I've always said if it happened tomorrow, I would
be sad that I didn't get to engage with our audience.
But how many people can say legitimately they lived out.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Their childhood dream.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
And for me it was to be on WIBC and
in this building that I grew up walking past and going, Wow,
that's awesome. You'd come down here during Christmas time, everything's
lit up and go that's the place to be. And
so one of the things we got about a mental
left here. When you when you close a chapter, I
think you take a reflection of everything that happened during
(09:03):
that chapter. And I just want to thank all of
the people, whether it was Matt Hiblin who first brought
me in Hammer who was a huge advocate to get
me in here, David Wood who gave me the opportunity
to be a full time producer, and then obviously took
the huge flyer against I'm sure all of his better
(09:24):
judgment to give me the show. Jeff Smollien for all
the money, yeah, you know, and this building, and then
obviously now Urban One and their opportunity. But most importantly,
I want to think our audience, because all of these memories,
all of these special things I've been able to live out,
and the nine years we've had in this building, it
(09:46):
is because of you, and that you continue to engage,
you continue to support, you continue to listen, and whether
you listen, and I'm really the only person who can
say this on this station, but whether you listen because
you love us, or you'll listen because you hate us,
and there's a lot of you, I get it. We
love you too because you all contribute the same way.
So from the very very bottom of my heart, thank
(10:08):
you for thank you for letting us live out the
stream every day. Thank you for the memories we've been
able to make in this building. And we'll try to.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Give it to you. Just as good in the new building.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
I'm going to go spend some extra time on the
balcony looking at the view of the circle. And thank
you Rob, thank you Kevin, and thank you for listening today.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
We'll catch you back here tomorrow from our new location.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
This has been Kendall and Casey on ninety three WIBC.
Well, let's say.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Not the end of our show now, I mean, at
least a far as we know, Well, you never know.
I mean, look, there's a lot of anything. First of all,
my last day of the year is Friday.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
This is true, Radiothon, That's right.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Yeah, but I love how you do that.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
Every year, bank all your vacation days to the end
of December. After Radiothon, you're like, Okay, I'm out, bye,
see you next year.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
And every year they're like, you will not be allowed
to do that. And then they're like, well, this guy
has so little going for him, let's just give it
to him.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
No, it's sympathy they have.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I had a good excuse this year though, because Libby's
daycare is closed, and I was like, look, I'm not
gonna be here one way another.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
You either give me the off days.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Or I'll just be insubordinate, right right, Like, I gotta
gotta do what I gotta do. But this is the
last our schedule to be We were told our final
program here at forty Monument Circle right tomorrow. They are saying, Now,
assuming all the buttons work right, they're saying, we're going
to debut at our new studios.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Do we know the address.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I'm not giving that out.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I'm sure they'll email it to us eventually. So how
long have you worked in this building.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I've been here since December of twenty sixteen. I was
brought in as a fill in guy. It took me
about six months to get in as a fill in guy,
and then I started out. Abdul used to have a
nighttime show. I started out filling in for him. I
(01:30):
did well enough with that that once the new year
came around that Hammer and Nigel knew they were getting
that afternoon show, but they had a night show for
a while. So of course Nigel was missing as much
work then as he is now. So I spent about
things never changed. I spent a lot of time as
the fill in guy for them. Did well enough with
that that then they started letting me do fill ins
(01:53):
for the morning show, at which point then they hired
me because I was doing They really, look, I was
a horrible producer.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
This will shock you.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I didn't care, and I wasn't really you're a horrible
producer now of our show.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
But they were like, this guy's so good as the
fill and we have to find something for him because
we're paying him so much money to be the filling guy,
we might as well just get some sort of full
time something. So they hired me to work with the
women and then become essentially the full time filling guy
for everybody. And then I was with the women what
for three and a half years, And then it was
me and Mock for a year, and now it's been
(02:29):
you and me for going what twenty two, twenty three,
twenty four, This will be our four We're coming up
on our fourth year. So that is my long and
winding road here at WIBC.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
You're at forty Monuments Circle.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
What was the building like when you first arrived and
what sort of changes or renovations have you noticed throughout
these years?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Well anything, Well, it's been fascinating.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
That how much the populace has changed the industry has
changed a lot, and how WIBC because of our audience,
Like all of this is because of our audience. Everything
I have, everything that you have. We have talent, we
have the ability to put shows together. But if our
audience wasn't as great as it is, none of this
would have lasted, certainly nine years. Casey, you have been
(03:10):
in management and radio for much of your life. How
many people make it anywhere in radio nine years? Oh,
that's pretty rare. Yeah, right, So it's normally a couple
of years and then you're out.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Especially someone who causes as many promises as me.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
That's true when the phone calls come in and it's
the complaints against you.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
But it is really a tribute to our audience, because
our audience. While the radio industry has really struggled and
we have obviously under new ownership, from where we were
when I started, WIBC remains an anomaly in this business
that we just keep moving forward like a freight train.
And almost every ratings book one, two or three, you're
(03:47):
gonna find WIBC right there in that.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
One, two or three slot.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
And we were two of the most recent book Nobody's
Beaten b one Z five seven during Christmas season. And
so that is really a tribute to our audience that
that has been the common thread throughout the nine years.
I mean, you think about what we went through. Trump
had just been elected the first time when I started here.
We've had all the Trump first presidency, the COVID, the riots,
(04:13):
the Biden years, the reemergence of Trump. We've had Hulcombe
be elected all this other one on with him. It's
the engagement of the WIBC audience and how wonderful and
amazing they are has been the point of commonality throughout
this whole my whole time here.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Yeah, do you have a favorite memory here or anything
naughty that you did here in this building that you
can finally.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Fess up to. Oh, I did a lot of auditings
building same.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
More words, so the family oriented program, okay, and those
were different times. But look, I just think I think
that the building and this the sounds look I other
than when I worked at the State House.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I never worked anywhere. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
I worked at we were always remote where you work
for yourself.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah, I never I had never. I mean I worked
very at very young age. I worked at a radio station.
But from basically twenty one on it was or twenty
two on, it was all me own my radio station
by streaming company. And then the brief time I went
into the state state government. But like, I'd never gone
(05:22):
to work every single day, I'd never been around co workers.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Like this was all foreign to me. When I know that.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Sounds ridiculous to say, but this was all all foreign
to me. And so the building is the point of commonality, right,
Like as a kid, you grew up coming here and
you would see, Now it wasn't WIBC on the circle
when I was a kid, but this building, these companies,
these frequencies were on the circle and you would you
would grow up seeing the marque, the WIBC headline, what
(05:52):
do they call it, the scrolling the news scroller out
on the circle, and you'd say, that's where I want
to be. I want to be in that building growing
up that that's the place I want to be. And
then you realize I made it right, and the building
almost becomes like a person. Right, the building becomes like
family because all of these events nine years long time.
(06:16):
It doesn't seem like it, but nine years this building
through all of the stuff, your life changes, your growth,
the birth of my daughter, all of these things. Right,
the building is the place you always came to and
came back to, and it's sort of like you're moving
on from that.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Well, I mean you've been here four years.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah, I have.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
And out of my thirty plus year career in media,
in this radio industry, I have gone through ownership changes
in the past. I have done format changes and I
have relocated, and out of all of those things, relocating
is one of the toughest things to do in radio
because it's such a technical field. It's not as tough
(07:01):
as television, because you could honestly mcguiver or radio station
with some duct tape, duct tape and a rubber band
and keep it on the air.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
But it should be a pretty seamless process.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
They should honestly flip one switch, maybe have a second
of dead air, flip another switch, and we'll be back on.
To the average listener, they won't notice the difference unless
they're watching on the YouTube feed. I think our new
studios are gonna be glorious. We're gonna have brand new equipment.
We're not gonna have the frustrations of things breaking down
(07:34):
or uh breaking down the bathroom making weird noises out
of nowhere. So I'm really excited about the new opportunity
for WIBC and what this can become, not only for
us and what we'll have to not deal with on
a daily basis, but for our viewers on the YouTube channel,
(07:57):
because I think they're going to see how the new
studios are gonna be great.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah, and when you close a chapter like guy, I've
always said this about WIBC. I have lived my dream,
especially the past five years with my own show. Yes,
it's been it's been a great dream if they came tomorrow,
because I always get the.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
People, I can't wait to fire you.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Bell will told for you.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
You've been at that for nine years. You people have
been very passionate for nine years. And it will happen eventually,
not because you cheer for it. It happens to everybody.
And I've always said if it happened tomorrow, I would
be sad that I didn't get to engage with our audience.
But how many people can say legitimately they lived out.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Their childhood dream.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
And for me it was to be on WIBC and
in this building that I grew up walking past and going, Wow,
that's awesome. You'd come down here during Christmas time, everything's
lit up and go that's the place to be. And
so one of the things we got about a mental
left here. When you when you close a chapter, I
think you take a reflection of everything that happened during
(09:03):
that chapter. And I just want to thank all of
the people, whether it was Matt Hiblin who first brought
me in Hammer who was a huge advocate to get
me in here, David Wood who gave me the opportunity
to be a full time producer, and then obviously took
the huge flyer against I'm sure all of his better
(09:24):
judgment to give me the show. Jeff Smollien for all
the money, yeah, you know, and this building, and then
obviously now Urban One and their opportunity. But most importantly,
I want to think our audience, because all of these memories,
all of these special things I've been able to live out,
and the nine years we've had in this building, it
(09:46):
is because of you, and that you continue to engage,
you continue to support, you continue to listen, and whether
you listen, and I'm really the only person who can
say this on this station, but whether you listen because
you love us, or you'll listen because you hate us,
and there's a lot of you, I get it. We
love you too because you all contribute the same way.
So from the very very bottom of my heart, thank
(10:08):
you for thank you for letting us live out the
stream every day. Thank you for the memories we've been
able to make in this building. And we'll try to.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Give it to you. Just as good in the new building.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
I'm going to go spend some extra time on the
balcony looking at the view of the circle. And thank
you Rob, thank you Kevin, and thank you for listening today.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
We'll catch you back here tomorrow from our new location.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
This has been Kendall and Casey on ninety three WIBC.
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