August 25, 2025 • 50 mins
A recap of crime news! Emmanuel Haro case, a meat bandit, subway creeper and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, y'all, welcome back to Mountain Murders sometime this week.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm Heather and I'm Dylan, reporting live from the Mountain
Murder Studio.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Yeah, that's right. I like that.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Well, we're going to be very serious today.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Oh oh, excuse me. Welcome to the studio. Yes, we
have news and stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Oh yeah, so professional Dylans. Yeah yeah, Dylan. We have
a lot of crying to discuss today. Recap some headlines,
news headlines.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Yeah, well, you know, I don't I've kind of been
in the dark this week. No big surprise, I'm sure,
but I don't really know what's popping on the true
crime headlines. So I'm here for it.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
All right. Well, one of the big headlines this week
is that Lylemanindez has been denied parole decades after he
and his brother were convicted of the nineteen eighty nine
shotgun murders of their parents in Balills.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
So this is a I find that kind of surprising.
So we've had a resentencing, right, we had a recentencing
with them, and that a lot of people thought would
give them the possibility of being parole. And so yeah,
as much ado about nothing, right, Fifty.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Seven year old Lyle appeared via video conference from the
correctional facility in San Diego for his parole hearing on Friday,
August twenty second, and did not go as well as
he hoped. So not going to be released. I don't
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know what to say, Dylan. I've really thought they had
a chance.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I not only thought they had a chance, I honestly
think they deserve a chance at parole, because certainly, I mean,
how many times, how many cases have we heard of
people rapists, murders, molesters, child predators who serve very little
time and serve certainly seem to get let out the
first chance that they get. And I definitely don't think
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they pose a threat to anyone else unless prison life
has hardened them or made them very mean, or you
know whatever. I'm sure being in jail that long changes
a person in ways many ways. But yeah, I'm kind
of surprised as well.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Well. The decision comes one day after his brother, Eric
Menendez fifty four, was denied parole. The Parole Commissioner, Robert
Barton has said that Eric has not exactly been.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
A model prisoner, oh.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, and called the brothers killings quote devoid of human compassion.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Oh, well, you know that that certainly matters your behavior
and the way you conduct yourself while in prison, So
you know, I could see that being a big.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Factor, very I guess, very big news right now.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
If they were to get out, how do you think
it would go for them in the modern twenty twenty
five true crime, in podcast world and all the way
entertainment is nowadays?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Well, Lyle, he's the Baldwin, right, the bald one, not
the Baldwin. He's the bald one. So I'm feeling like
he might get some hair extensions.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Oh you think he's just gonna go straight to dreads.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Well, I don't know about the dreads, but I think
he might get some extensions. Oh maybe get some hair plugs.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah, but that sounds expensive.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Who got their parents' money? Where did the inheritance go?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah, that was a considerable estate, right do we know?
I don't know. Maybe they had like a poodle or
something that's been living hoigh on the hog this whole time.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Well, I was just gonna say, maybe that could get
him some hair plugs.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
I don't know, Dylan, Okay, maybe it's all been invested
in cryptocurrency. Welcome to twenty twenty five of menandez brothers.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Well, doesn't seem like they're going to be welcome to
twenty twenty five. They're still in jail.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Well, you know, all I can say is, don't shoot
your parents in the face with a shotgun, even if
they are pieces of shit.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Probably solid advice. Thanks Dylan Baton Rouge, Louisiana making headlines,
a man was arrested on theft charges after being accused
of stealing packs of frozen meat from grocery stores.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
What was his mode of theft? How was he concealing
these said packages of meat?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Well, let's see what the article tells us here. This
is seven news. According to the Livingston pair of Sheriff's Office,
deputies responded to this collar on ten am. It was
about a man leaving a neighborhood Walmart without paying for
concealed items and returning to allegedly do it again. Witnesses
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shared the suspect's appearance in the vehicle he was driving
with deputies. They also said that the suspect had been
stuffing all of these packs of meat into his pants.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Nice dude, if I had a nickel for every time
I've been accused of concealing large meat packages in my
pants so many times I lost count.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
You'd have a penny, No I have, I'd be rich
like you'd been a deficit on what's that bulge?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
But like I'll bet you wish you.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Knew, honey, what this? Oh, bless it.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I'm not even allowed in like forty three states on it.
It's outlawed for me to even wear sweatpants.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Bless your heart, that's true. The gray sweatpants are out
for you.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
After issuing a be on the lookout for the vehicle,
police officers located the guy on Range Road, which is
near I twelve, not that I know where that is.
Once stopped, officers found packs of meat. This included packs
of lean Hamburger meat, four packs of rabbis, eight packs
of Angus rabbis. After further investigation, deputies found that more
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packs of meat were stolen from another store and the
entire I guess estimated my out of stolen meat comes
in eight hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Damn. So he's just driving like a meat car now to.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Get this stelen. The meat was returned to stores but
will not be sold resold. The packs must be destroyed.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Oh well, you know, I feel like they should. The
store should have the right to offer like a special sale,
like a stolen pant meat, you know, at a very
steep discount, and just give the consumer the option of
whether they want to buy it or not.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Michael Odwong because I'm trying to use Mont louisianaccent, right.
Michael Odwin fifty seven, was arrested and booked into the
Livingston Parish Detention Center as an extensive theft conviction. He
has seventy four prior arrests, twenty six of those for theft,
and he had nine convictions total. So this guy has
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a career criminal, yeah, and he just wanted some meat.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
And what is why is he out? Why is he
a out to even be in the community. I mean, honestly,
career criminals like these, I mean, why don't you just
put them on a work a labor camp somewhere growing back?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
But you were gonna say, don't you just put him
on a leash? Well that then I imagined him. He's
like tied up to the jail. It just keeps running,
like jumping, trying to get you know, get down, get
free from the leash, trying to steal a little kid
trying to the leash.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, talking about don't get near him, he'll try to steal.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Stop, he'll bite you.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Well, you know, it seems like a person like this
just never learns from their mistakes, you know. I mean,
at what point do you decide that you're okay for
one that many arrests and convictions. You're not that good
of a criminal, right, No, Yeah, you kind of suck, Michael.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
You need to find a job, bud.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
But not. But can we appreciate the fact that he
is health conscious and he stole the lean ground beef.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
He did, Yeah, he did. I don't know about those ribbis.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Though, Well maybe he's just on like a cornivore diet.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Okay, Yeah, I don't know how those don't kill people.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Dude.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
That has to wreck your health somewhat, right, Man.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
I see people talking about all they eat is meat
and like twelve eggs for breakfast and stuff like this,
and I'm just like, how are you now on the
edge of death's door with your cholesterol and stuff like
that and your sodium intake. It's a good question because
just even trying to be high protein you run into
you run into issues like fat intake and.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Sodium you know, it wouldn't work for me either, because
I go through periods of time where I find meat
kind of disgusting. Oh well, like I you know, especially
if I cook the meat, like if I see the
meat raw, and then I prepare the meat and then
I'm just kind of like, oh, and I don't want
to eat it.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
So you're saying the sucklent juices kind of gross.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
You out a little bit.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah, yeah, you like clean meat.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I just need someone to bring me the meat, like
pre cooked, like just cook it and bring it to me. Okay,
gorilla and bring it to me. I don't need to
I don't want to see all the I don't need
to know how the sausage is made. I guess that's
what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
You just want to enjoy the sausage.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah right, just put the meat in my mouth.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Some dry sausage.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
I don't know why that is. Thinking about this man
shoving packages of meat down his pants and I need
to know what kind of pants was he wearing.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Well, I just don't And it's all red meat, Okay,
let's be honest. So he might not be as health
conscious as we thought.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
And I also want to ask him, after he shoved
all of this meat in his pants, does he have
any more room for me in those jeans?
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Ah? Yes, like that, I do like that. Well, look
here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
It's got to be uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
It's also Walmart meat you're.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Going to be walking around with, like, oh, maybe it's
kind of kinky, Like, oh yeah, I got this ribb
I shoved up under my ball sack.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
If I want to put meat in my pants, I
think I want to be freshly butchered and prepared.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
You're going to go to like the artisan meat shop. Yeah,
you want to go to the butcher.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I'm gonna go to the fresh market, Okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Their meat seems.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Okay, their meat seems okay.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I have to complain, though, I have gotten some steaks
there and feel like I'm getting a better quality steak
at just the grocery store down the street.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Well, the unnamed grocery store you speak of has the
best meats in town. They do, and they really do.
They seem to. Is it a more highly skilled butcher
that could be part of it? Or what's the deal?
Because you go to the fresh market, everything's fairly expensive,
really expensive, right, everything? And you think that you're going
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to get the highest quality, and it doesn't seem to
be the case on these mignon.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
One time I tried to buy some black sesame seeds
from the fresh market and a jar was like twelve dollars.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
My god.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I was like, you know what, this recipe can have
white sesame seeds. Yeah, Dylant, we have to talk about
this because we like to talk about shipbirds, we do,
and this guy is a super creep Roman Gonzalez was
busted on April ninth at the Union Square subway station
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for pleasuring himself in front of a woman on the
train platform, the sixth time he's been nabbed for public
lewdness and the thirty second time he's been arrested since
nineteen eighty three.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Here we go.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Sixty seven year old Gonzales was back out on the
streets immediately after his arrest a week later because the
chargees I'm sorry, the charges aren't fail eligible.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yeah, so they're not serious enough. In other words, so.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
A lot of people are questioning, like, how can you
be doing this since nineteen eighty three and still be
out on the street.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
As well? They should because a lot of time, a
lot of the time. These deviant behaviors are very mild
misdemeanors or you know, public exposure or lewdness or whatever.
And the only way to fix that is to through
legislation local and statewide, at the very least, to criminalize,
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to make this a more serious penalty. Right, So get this.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
His long rap sheet includes charges for petty theft, petty larceny,
possession of stolen credit cards, grand larceny, and menacing. Oh
is menacing?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I think you just be mean mugging. Somebody say menacing.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
You staring at me sideways with your dick in your
hand is pretty menacing, that is.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
He never did prison time in New York by two
thousand and five. He was arrested for forcible touching. In
twenty sixteen for sex abuse, and later that same year
for public lewdness when he masturbated on the G line
at Broadway in Northern Boulevard in Astoria.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
God all the way down the G line. Huh.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Now. In that case, the victim, a twenty six year
old woman, managed to catch Gonzales on video, which helped
cops arrest him a month later. The case was sealed
and there was no information available about it, I guess
at the time of this report. By February twenty third,
he was allegedly added again masturbating in front of a
woman on the End train in Manhattan. He was arrested
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March eighteenth, but despite his criminal history, walked away with
just a little desk ticket like don't do this again.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
A little like warning put your penis away. Yeah, man,
somebody needs to beat this guy's ass. I mean, that's
for real. This is disgusting behavior, and I mean this
is just the crazy shit that women deal with. And
for something like this to not be that big of
a penalty is a slap in the face to every
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woman in a community where a piece of shit like
this lives.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Well, here's the thing. He's been busted thirty two times
for various crimes, and six of those have been for
sex crimes. And yet he's still out. Now this is
since nineteen eighty three, So what over forty years this
guy has been doing shit all over the city, Yeah,
whacking his mole whatever, and he's and he's not in jail.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
And these are just times he got caught. So it's
a guarantee that he's done this many times and not
got caught and victimized many people.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I'm just fling away by by the story.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
It's disgusting, its deviant behavior, and it's very dangerous and
it's you know, peeping. All that shit is kind of
still to this day viewed as like, oh, it's kind
of like a joke or something.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Well, we were discussing this last night. In some of
these major cities, like New York City, you were not
allowed to carry weapons.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Right day, everyday citizen.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
A handgun you cannot, so you don't have any opportunity
to protect yourself.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yeah, no knives, no guns, no brass knuckles, no mace
in some instances, and it's like and these are for
this is for the the trustworthy, everyday set, is hard working,
everyday citizen. Why can't I have Why can't I have
something to protect myself?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Why can't I pepper spray this guy's dick when he's
got it out?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Yeah, why can't I whip out a can of bear
bear mace and just light this guy up? But then
only the criminals and people who don't follow laws and
rules are the ones who have weapons.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
And it really he's got a weapon in his hands.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
It's a very small caliber it very it seems very
backwards to me. Honestly, it's it just doesn't seem like
that makes your community safer. Sorry, it doesn't, Dylan.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Have you heard of out this case in California where
forty one year old Rebecca I think it's Hoiro reported
that her seven month old son was kidnapped from a
sporting goods store.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Oh my gosh, no, I have.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Not, okay, Emmanuel hoiro seven month old baby was reportedly
kidnapped from the Big five sporting goods store. The mom
claims someone came up, like punched her in the face,
took the baby. But guess what. Mom and dad have
been arrested on suspicion of murder after the child was
falsely reported kidnapped. According to authorities, Jake Hoiro thirty two,
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and Rebecca Hoiro, forty one, were taken into custody at
their home in Cabazon, which is ninety miles east of
La The agency sin I'm sorry. The San Bardino Sheriff's
Department added that it would continue to investigate and search
for this child. Oh thank god, so again the child
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was missing on August fourteenth. She told investigators that she
took her children to football practice with her husband, and
then she stopped at this big five sporting good store
to buy her older son a mouthguard. She was attacked
while she was trying to change her son's diaper in
the parking lot. Somebody said O lot to her, and
then everything just went black. Oh, I guess somebody punched
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her in the face. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah, after a very friendly broke.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Up on the floor and her son was gone.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Got yet another case of parents reporting a child missing
or whatever and then and possibly they're to won the
biggest threat to their own child.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Authority said there was no security footage in the area
at the time. An Amber alert was not issued due
to a lack of suspect or vehicle descriptions. So I
guess it didn't meet criteria for an activation of an
AMBER alert.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yeah, there's no information to relate to the public.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
How Over the weekend, the couple stopped cooperating with investigators,
and they noted several inconsistencies in the mother's story. Multiple individuals,
including the child's parents, were interviewed by the Sheriff's Department
during questioning. These incon inconsistencies were noted in Rebecca's original
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statement and then after that she chose not to continue
the interview once confronted about her inconsistencies.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Well imagine that.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
So, after numerous interviews, analyzing digital and electronic evidence, investigators
determined that this kidnapping never happened and they do believe
the child is deceased and they are now searching for
his remains. They hoped to recover those poor little baby. Yeah,
so the husband, the father, Jay Carrow, previously pleaded guilty
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to child cruelty charges in Riverside County, but that was
a separate case back in twenty eighteen. At the time
he was arrested that he was still on probation for
those charges. Really, yeah, he did not serve in state
prison for four years, as being reported. He had reached
a deal through a plea agreement, according to the Sheriff's office.
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But he has acknowledged his role in the situation and says,
you know, there was more than one person convicted at
the time, which I mean, let's be honest, that doesn't
really make a difference. You're still a piece of crap
because you hurt a child.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah, who cares if you had buddies along with you
to hurt some child.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Anyway, I think that it's a very sad story and
these kinds of things just break my heart. How could
you do that to your own child?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
It just doesn't add up for me. I mean, you're
supposed to be the one that protects them from everything.
It's almost honestly, I think it should be in a
special category of you know, for as far as penalty
and everything goes, along with some other things we've discussed before,
it should be a special it's stenuating circumstance that you
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harm your own child should be worse, a bigger deal
than you know, no matter than anyone else.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Dylan, we have a real life Jaws situation happening. Oh really,
Dundon Dundone, Scarborough, Maine. Now, I know that Jaws was
filmed in and around Martha's Vineyard in Massachusetts, and Amity
Island is supposedly in New York, but we're talking about
just New England in general here, Right. They typically do
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not get great white.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Sharks off the northeast coast.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Right, But in Scarborough, Maine, there have been reports of
a large great white shark near some of the most
popular beaches, and it even prompted one coastal town to
issue a warning on Tuesday. Marine resource officers got word
of this roughly ten to twelve foot shark on Monday.
The shark was spotted in the area of Crescent Beach,
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State Park, Higgins Beach, and Pine Point Beach. These are
all located within a half hour's drive of Portland, Maine.
A commercial clam fisherman named David Lancaster was able to
take drone footage of the shark swimming just beneath the surface.
You can actually see its gray fin poking through the
gentle swells. He seems surprised and describes the shark as
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magnificent in the video. So, I mean a lot of
folks around are saying, it's pretty crazy to see this
in local waters.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Have you ever seen where they'll tag these great whites?
And have you ever seen what their journeys look like. Yeah,
they go so far. They will go to the other
side of the dagum world and come back to an area.
I mean, it's crazy how far and quickly they can swim.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Now way sharks again were made pretty famous fifty years
ago in the movie Jaws, and they're not commonly seen
off Maine, but they have lived in the state's water
for centuries, so it's not like it's completely unheard of.
Sightings have ticked up in recent years, and signists say
they think the state's growing population of seals could be
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the reason for more shark activity because white sharks feed
on marine mammals such as seals.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Still kind of a wild story, right.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Well yeah, I mean, could you imagine just any dorsal
fan a shark fin on any shark could be work.
You know, is typically going to give people the creeps
or freak them out. But this is a monster of
an animal.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
I've seen very small sharks, yeah, like little baby sharks
singing doo doo do doo, doo doo doo wash up
on the beach on the east coast here, yeah, you know,
in Carolina beaches, I should say. And even that is unnerving.
They're scared to see some tiny little shark and to think,
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holy shit, like that was swimming here. Now it's up
on the beach. Where's its mama, where's its daddy? Shark?
Do do do do do? Mama, shark doo do do
do do?
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Grandpa shark do do do?
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Dylan has grandkids That's that's how we know the song
do that song rocks, So we jam it, We jam
it that song.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
I don't care who you are, the girls.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
In their car seats in the back. Yeah, and we
crank it up and we'll be jamming.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
It's an earworm, is yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Then I find myself singing it for days.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, so that's on rocks. Yeah, but uh yeah, great
sharks are great white sharks. Obviously one of them, I
gotta say, is likely what top three or five carnivores
on the planet. I mean, up there with polar bears, grizzlies.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
And Michael and.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yes, Michael and and one the the meat pants guy, yeah,
and uh yeah, but they're just uh, I mean, they're
really amazing creatures.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
And the super predator on the subway super scary. Yeah. Yeah,
we've had three super scary people on the well. Mammals
on the pod today, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
It's going down. Well. Yes, sharks aren't mammals. They're not.
They're not. I don't even know if they're a I
don't think they're a fielish.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Seriously, I've gotten really dumb in the last couple of years.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
You never heard you ever heard of shark milk. I
know they can make milk out of anything nowadays, But
you've never heard of shark milk. Yeah, I have, and
they would not, huh.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
I suckle a shark's team once.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
I don't think that they you've never milked a shark, greg,
I was hungry.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
I was hungry and trapped in a wal's belly.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Oh, but the shark was in there.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
No, the whale let me out to go suckle from
the shark's teat.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Apparently they were in a on and off again relationship.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Okay, I don't have I don't like to talk about
my youth. You shouldn't, I mean, really, stop this is
kind of.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
A crazy story. Dylan, an eighteen year old who was
reported missing from Florida two years ago, has been arrested
in connection with the murder of a twenty three year
old man in North Carolina. What According to reports from
outlets The News and Observer and CBS seventeen, Gracie Elizabeth
Faye Landa was arrested on Monday, August twentieth. I'm sorry, eighteenth.
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I apparently can't read numbers either. In connection with the
killing of Christopher pied Drasanta Perez on May thirtieth, the
News and Observer reported that Piedrosanta Perez was one of
three people shot inside a vehicle on Romont Drive. This
is located in Durham's northern side. Well there's your problem, Yurreham.
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Twelve thirty am Durham's pre dangerous place.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
That's not somewhere I would be doing the late night walkarounds.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Probably not. Two women were also injured in the shooting,
but authorities have not specified if Landa was in the
car or how she is connected to Piedro Sante Perez.
In a report from the Office of the Medical Examiner,
investigators state that Piedro Santra Perez was sitting in the
car with two friends near a Durham park when two
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people approached and again firing shots into the car. More
than forty casings were found damn area, including some belonging
to a nine millimeter and others to a two to
twenty three rifle. Piedro Santa Perez's autopsy states that he
sustained a gunshot wounded the head. Of course, there were
nine to one one calls obtained by the outlet by
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one of the victims, and she states that she shot
ten times at least pretty vicious, dude, So this is
like a all out gunfight. Landa was first reported missing
when she was sixteen years old from her home in Tampa, Florida.
This was back on June twenty seventh of twenty twenty three.
The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children later stated
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they believed she had traveled to Durham, and though authorities
never formally announced that she had been found, Landa is
no longer considered a missing person on the center's website.
I mean this is kind of wild, right, well yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
I mean it's an outcome you don't usually hear in
a missing person's case.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
So, according to the warrant obtained by the News and Observer,
authorities alleged that one of the twenty three year old's
friends had planned to confront another person at the park
due to a conflict stemming from a romantic relationship. Man,
you can't be getting in the middle of these romantic relationships.
This is what happens. The warrant does not specify Landa's
alleged ties to the incident. Per the warrant, security camera
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footage of the incident from a nearby building showed two
people coming out of the woods and firing shots at
the car. Then the two suspects fled into the woods.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Well, it seems like a cowardly move on the shooter's bark, right,
I mean so it sounds like basically an ambush.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I don't get these romantic relationships and people feel like
they got to go around like killing each other, just
get away from each other.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
I don't get the gun player.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I'm going to fight over a man, I'm not going
to fight over a chick.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Can we say that? Like, we've always heard of gun
violence in America and to our listeners not in America,
you probably know of it too. We're known to have
lots of guns, yeah, and not afraid to use them
kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Right.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
All throughout our history and many different big events, you know,
changes in our culture and society, guns have always played
a part. But it seems like nowadays that people are
the willingness to shoot in public for basically no reason.
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We've always heard this usually tied up in gang violence
and things like that. If you're in an area where
there's active gangs, you'll have this type of thing happening.
But it's almost like that's been moved over into the mainstream,
this willingness to fire a gun in public for no reason, right,
I mean, it's very scary.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
It is very scary. And the other I guess aspect
of that is a lot of these gun crimes are
committed by very young people. Yeah, and the victims are
very young people, and it's just snuffing out of life.
I mean, that's there's such a waste of potential there.
It's true both both the victim obviously, but the person
involved the assailants, because they're going to end up in prison, ruin,
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their lives ruined they.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Killed someone or injured someone. It's really, it's really so dumb.
It's such a dumb move, and it's it's really, uh,
I guess, tied up in people with no impulse control,
no control over their emotionals. It's a very emotional response
and it's one I think the only reason. And I'm
not anti gun. I mean, we have a we have
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a piece, we have a a stack of hot lead
to you know, serve up to some fools just trying
to bust up on us, right, And as long as
you don't bust up on us, you won't get shot.
Here at the Mountain Murner Studio. Stay strapped, Stay strapped.
But you know, we get, we got some we can get,
we can serve it up. But we're responsible gun owners
and we're normal citizens. Just your willingness to bring a
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gun or to use one towards another human being over
the dumbest shit, it really just blows my mind.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
I blame Johnny Cash. It all started when Johnny shot
that man and Reno just to watch him die.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Oh yeah, and then wrote a song about it.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Right, He really downplayed his roles violence, He really downplayed
his role in that obvious murder.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Well, I mean, you know, young people's lives are shattered.
You've got communities left with just devastation from these types
of things. Yeah, and then you've got these families they've
lost their loved one, and these are all young people,
it seems, and everybody deserves a future. I don't know,
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I just think it's really sad.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
It is sad, it really is. And I mean what
I was saying earlier, the only reason to brandish weapon
or use the weapons to protect yourself if you think
someone's gonna kill you, right.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Well, I don't know you can even go to jail
for that nowadays it seems like they don't want you
to protect yourself.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Well, you know, it's I was listening to this thing
the other day. It's like they've put the burden of
responsibility on victims nowadays, right, I mean used to the
burden was on the criminal, Like, hey, if you got
shot in the back running away from breaking into someone's house,
maybe you shouldn't have been breaking in their house, right,
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But nowadays it seems to be you have to try
everything and you have to cross all your t's and
dot all your i's as the victim or you know,
in any some other instances, you got to make sure
and have you know, everything in order.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
What I find fascinating is how nowadays, oftentimes the media
portrays the perpetrator as the victim.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Right, if there's some kind of retaliation against a person
who's attacking you, or they break in your house, they
have a weapon, you shoot them. Somehow, they're the victim.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
They won't use words like it.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
It's really amazing to me when I see that kind
of thing.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
It's crazy talking about. And oftentimes it is these young
people like you said, no lead with their ages, right,
thirteen and a fourteen year old were shot in the face,
and you'll be like, oh gosh, you know, but when
you see that they were actively home invading or carjacking
or carjacking someone.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Heay, you were telling me a guy had shot some
young people who were trying to steal his.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Car, right, yes, just recently. Now, I tell you where
the guy screwed up. And I think this is where
he messed up. Is he chased the perpetrators. Like he
comes out. It's like the third or fourth time someone's
tried to steal his car. He sees hooded all in
black figures, right, they run off, He jumps in the car,
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chases them down and shoots, Which is you messed up there. Okay,
you went too far. But the way that whole story
was presented and talked about, instead of saying, hey, he's two,
because it was it was literally a fourteen and the
thirteen year old kids, instead of saying they were trying
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to steal this man's car and got shot, they would
say things like, oh, they were accused of attempting to
take a car that wasn't theirs. And see words matter, right,
and I don't know why we're sugarcoating what they were doing.
And and I'm not how am I supposed to know
it's a young person when all I see is a
you know, a hooded.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Figure into consideration if someone has tried to steal your car,
or has stolen your car in the past, I mean,
and if it's happened multiple times, that's traumatic for any person.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Right it is, because it really is someone taking your
property or breaking into your home. Is such a true violation,
a violation of sanctity of your home where you're supposed
to feel safe.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
We did not take into consideration this man's experience and
how it shaped his opinion or attitude, or that he
felt maybe unsafe or whatever and kind of reacted in
the moment.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Well, it seems to not taken into any account his
emotional state or his emotional reaction to have been violated
multiple times, or his fear level. Did he do the
wrong thing jumping in the car and driving off the
property and chasing them down? Yes? Absolutely, was he in
a frenzied state, you know, in just in a very
emotional state and in like a fearful state that had
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him outside his normal perception quite possibly, And should he
have had some kind of you know, repercussions for what
he did. Yeah, sure he shouldn't have go off, but
fifty four years, oh.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
We got fifty four years fifty four years d.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
And then all the talk about these kids is about
all the loss of the one dying, and no one's
saying that I wish they hadn't tried to steal that
guy's car, they wouldn't have got shot. See that's the
way I view it, honestly, if they hadn't been doing
this what twelve thirteen.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Fourteen, very high risk situations out trying to steal shit
like this, dude, Well, that's like if you go rob
a bank and you get shot, are you going to
be surprised that someone shot you for trying to rob
a bank? I mean it, I don't know. It just
doesn't really make sense to me. And I don't understand
the world we live in where we make excuses for
criminals and don't want them punished. No, and somehow everyone
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you know, the victims are the responsible party, it's your faults, you.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Shouldn't re vict him. Well, in Rome, Georgia, that guy
shot had more with three or four people trying to
kick his door in and he comes out hot and
kills like three of them with the gunfire. Whose fault
is that? How in the hell can you blame the
gun owner or the homeowner in that situation.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
I don't know. I'm glad I live in the state
that's got the castle doctrine.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
All I know is he was a good shot. I mean, shit,
if you're going to have him, you might as well practice.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Now, Dylan, you're on TikTok. I rarely get on there
because I think it's a syop. It is a siop,
but I still go try to make everybody depressed. There
was this viral I guess story in Virginia where people
on TikTok were saying there were mass kidnappings. Oh, it
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was really scaring people on TikTok and folks are saying
it mirrors the horror movie Weapons. But police are saying
this is all a false alarm.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
They were saying was mass kidnappings.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Yeah. So after this social media posts, I guess, there
were multiple social media posts that stoked viral fears that
children were being abducted across Virginia. State police had to
make an announcement that these rumors were not true. There
are not multiple missing children across the Commonwealth of Virginia,
and that the Virginia State Police is not investigating any
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reports of mass subductions in the state, and there's no
evidence of mass subductions occurring in Virginia.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Well, and this right here shows you what happened, because
I can guarantee you through experience, and Heathery're telling me
multiple times that I'm a dumbass that when you see
any breaking news, unless it's literally trusted or known legacy source,
even if you don't agree with the mainstream media, it
is one hundred percent false. And you see these breaking
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news banners on all kinds of stories, and people just
run with it. They don't fall for it, they don't coruct.
But to the point that officials, state officials have to
come out and lay the fears of the public by
making official announcement against something like this, much like the
time the CDC had to come out and say, no,
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there isn't a zombie out break, right, I mean, it's
of course that you couldn't. I'm not sure there wasn't
a zombie o break because that got on that bridge
in Florida was eating that man's face. I don't think
you can blame that on bat salts. I think that's
the virus.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
The TikTok frenzy, as it has been described, has drawn
comparisons to the new horror movie Weapons, in which children
go missing. It sparks widespread panic and violent chaos.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Now I see that. I want to go see Weapons.
I've heard, you know, people say it was pretty good original,
which is great nowadays to see something that's not a
reboot or remake. So may we should go check that
movie out. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Man, it's just people will believe anything. And the other
part of that are these content creators.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
It's irresponsible who go around.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Just making up shit and putting it out there and
it does kind of cause it an uproar, and in
the end of the day, you're just a liar.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Yeah, just for clicks and views.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
That's kind of troubling, right.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Oh, there's absolutely no conscience when it comes to the
rage baiting and things like that.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Rage baiting, Yeah, is that when you're masturbaiting or mad?
That's what the guy was doing on the subway.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Yeah, maybe it was rage rage master rage baiting.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Now, Dylan, this is one of our top crime stories
of the episode.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Are you ready okay?
Speaker 2 (39:42):
A California Sheriff's office shared photos of a bear that
broke into an ice cream parlor and helped itself to
some strawberry ice cream behind the counter.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Okay, this is a top news story. Yeah, so the
bear likes strawberry. That that's what bears like, strawberry ice cream.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
The bear did not cause a lot of property damage,
and there was barely any cleanup because he definitely made
good on his licks of this ice cream.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
So he knew what he wanted and he didn't make
a mess, and he just went straight for the strawberry
ice cream.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
And I can appreciate he is being charged with a
ben e oh, but he sounds like he has more property,
more manners than many people. So this happened at an
ice cream shop at Camp Richardson in South Lake Tahoe.
And of course the deputies who arrived on the scene
could barely believe their eyes see this very large bear
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behind the counter and he's just going to town eating
some ice cream and he chose strawberry. Okay, yeah, there
you go.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Well, thank you for that. That was that was a
nice little story.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
I thought I thought you would enjoy that.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Dying amongst the sharks and the hand penises.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Yeah, I have something terrifying out of South Carolina. A
little bit of strange news for you. But everybody knows.
In my mind, lock this thing up. It's a crime.
So a family of animal lovers teamed up with another
local resident in South Carolina to wrangle a twelve foot
yellow python that had been on the loose in the
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area for weeks. Oh my gosh, this is in Newberry County.
This python. I guess it's an albino reticulated python. What
makes it a reticulated python?
Speaker 1 (41:32):
I think that's how that.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
I don't know what the hell does reticulated mean? Is it?
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Well? I mean if you see an unreticulated python, you'll
know the difference.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
I will. Yeah, all right, So this is so. This
albino reticulated python has been on the loose for several
weeks in Newberry County. A Prosperity resident named Warren Gaalman
ventured out with his son Jordan and his nephew Jaden
Atchison when they reported the sighting of this thing. First,
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the trio visited the scene of the sighting, about two
miles from Galman's home in search the area with Evan Turner,
another nearby resident Turner spotted the twelve foot snake after
about a fifteen minute search, and Gallman was able to
grab the reptile's head. No the amateur reptile wranglers were
able to safely capture the snake. Gallman suffered a few
scrapes from being pulled into the bushes by the python.
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My gosh, it's big enough to pull you into the bushes.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
It's twelve foot long and probably freaking six inches across.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Don't want to think about I would have killed it.
Thin about that.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
I would never try to take it alive.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Now, the snake's origin story remains a mystery, but local
authorities believe it was someone's pet that has gotten loose,
or maybe somebody dumped it out, because the snake is
definitely not native to the area right. A herpetologist at
Riverbank's Zoo and Garden agreed with the Sheriff's department's assessment
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that this is not a native snake. He said, quote,
a lot of people buy these snakes when they're two
to three feet long, and you've got a cage that's
four feet long, and that's fine for a couple of years,
but eventually the snake is going to get up to
fifteen plus feet long. Jesus and a lot of people
can't accommodate what the snake needs for its entire life,
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and then that becomes a difficult situation.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Yeah, you got to start feeding it like baby goats
and shit. So reticulated refers to the pattern on the pithon.
So it has like those splotchy circular patterns. Okay, you've
seen that, I'm sure on TV on snakes when you
turn it before you turn your head, and then I
guess the one that's not a reticulated would be like
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just a smooth, solid color. Okay, so it's probably a
pretty snake, pretty big.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Well, the herpetologist says that if you can't take care
of a snake, that releasing it is terrible for the
environment and terrible for the snake because it's gonna die.
It's not going to be able to survive. So she'd
kill it to Well, you probably need to rehome it. Oh,
maybe a zoo would take it, some kind of you know,
wildlife refuge in nature center or something would be My guess,
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why is your first thought.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
Go to kill it? Well, if I'm not supposed to
let it loose and I can't take care of it.
I mean, what other options do I have?
Speaker 3 (44:25):
But I guess I could Craigslist. Try one of the
seven free stuff on Craigslist. I could try one of
the uh you know what I would do. I would
give away. I would find a yard cell dresser buy
it for like ten bucks. I would cram the snake
and take all the drawers out, cram the snake in there,
and then put the faces of the drawers back on,
and then I would give the dresser away for free.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
That is cruel and I hate snakes, but that is cruel.
So my thought is you put the snake in a
box and you've donated it to good Will.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Ooh right, a big box?
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Yeah, okay, now a shoe box. Doing all right?
Speaker 1 (44:58):
So that was a that was some crazy stories. Right,
nice little roundup of the true crime news of the week.
News of the week, that's right, brought.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
To you by Mount Murders New Studio, your professional newscasters
over here.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Yeah, that's Rightly, I'm.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Really good at reading.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
I can use my phone.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
I can read aloud.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Oh, so thank you for that, Heather. Yeah, what else?
We got things to do? We gotta get on with
our chores.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Chores.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Yeah, I'm not doing enough chores. I don't want I
don't want to do nothing.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Man, I hate chores.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
My day off.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
I don't like chores. I don't want to do them anymore.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
I should be allowed to do absolutely nothing if that's
what I want to do. But that's just not how
life works out.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
When you say to do nothing, like, what do you mean,
what is your ideal do nothing day?
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Well, I mean it's not complicated. I'm talking nothing. The
only thing I want to do is reposition myself in
various places around the house, usually accompanied by maybe a
TV or a pillow. Services. I keep a pillow closer.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
Notice that you you have a little pillow that should
be dragging all around.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Yeah, I like to lean on it, and you never
know when you want to lay down, right, But then
I hate to have to get up if I want
to lay down, and like get the stuff to lay down.
So I keep a pillow and I throw blanket a
lot blanket at hand at all times. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
It drives me crazy because then I have to clean
up your napping materials. Yeah, even if you just leave
a trail of I wake up in the morning and
there's just like a trail of Dylan's napping materials. There'll
be like two or three different throws. Yeah, on the couch,
on the chair.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
On the love seat, my knees, get cadillo.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
Then you'll go to bed and like not take the pillow.
I forget, and then you'll like so then you'll have
some terrible pillow or I'll take your pillow. Yeah, you
take my pillow.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
Baby, I'm sorry, you're not.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
You do not sound like a man who's sorry.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
Yeah, but unfortunately it's not how life works out. And
also like snacks to be involved when I'm doing nothing, Okay,
streaming in snacks, bud.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
That sound's poring, all right, Because even on a day
when I'm like, oh, do nothing, I always end up
doing something because I have this ongoing internal battle where
I feel guilty if I'm just like relaxing, like it
should always be productive. You got to stop that, Like
productivity is always important in my brain for.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
Some reason, you deserve to do nothing sometimes, right, I
think some of the.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
Listeners will I don't deserve to do nothing, yea, my
brain says the opposite. When I'm trying to enjoy myself.
The brain is like you should be working on pod.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Okay, all right, so we'll get off here. Heather's going
to work on this week's case.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
Dude, I have to go ahead and make mention of
this Stelen, the episode that we will drop this week.
This case is very sexy. Ooh, okay, it's a lot
of sex. We're gonna talk about a lot of sex. Ooh, inseduction.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
We're gonna be like, gosh, what is it? Salt and paper, right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Pa, exotic dancing.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
Yeah, let's talk about it.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Pornography. Ooh yeah, there's a lot of sexy sexy stuff.
We need a lot of We need some sexy stuff
in our life. We need more sexy stuff in our life,
don't you think?
Speaker 1 (48:25):
Yeah? I guess yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
I want it like a tawny contain cardboard cutout.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Who is that the girl that rolled around on the
car in the White Snake video? Oh okay, I'm just saying, like,
some sexy stuff that's pretty sexy.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
Pretty sexy. I would be thinking about.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
Is it a Rolls Royce that she was like dancing
and flipping around on I don't know, I don't know
it's hot.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
I don't know. I've never I don't the car model,
sexy car model thing doesn't. I don't like it. I
don't like it. It does nothing for me.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
What you don't like. I love that you have such
a strong opinion about it. No, I don't like it.
I'm declaring it right now.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
No, I'm saying the calendars, the video anything to car share.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
You put a beautiful woman next to that Chevy bel air,
well yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
I mean I don't care monsters. I don't want it,
and then she's just rubbing all over it, and I'm
just like, god.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
See, you're missing the point.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
I don't know, because there's like.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
The curve of the car, the curve of a beautiful woman.
Speaker 1 (49:28):
I guess I'm not that into cars, I guess is
what the deal is.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
You're lame.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
Okay, my car show would be boring, I guess right,
because I don't. Really I'm not into cars. They're just utilitarian,
you know, machines. To me, I don't. I don't just
look at them and be like, oh, the car is beautiful,
you know.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
I'm just like, okay, Okay, well I do I enjoy
a classic car. Okay, Well, you can't on to multiple
car shows in my day.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
Oh wow, look, I'm in a parking lot with my
hood up. Check it out.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
I like to go look at that stuff. Episode does
my child.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
I'll put my hood up and you can look on you.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
Now you've just turned me off.
Speaker 1 (50:11):
What's see?
Speaker 2 (50:13):
This is a thing, Dylan. I don't get to indulge
in things I enjoy because you're such a grump, Doe.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
You like anything you've never ever been, Like, let's go
to this car show and I didn't go.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
That's a lot because I know you wouldn't go.
Speaker 1 (50:25):
You don't know that now you.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
Know that whatever. I'll be trying to get you to
go to the cruise end down with the bow Jingles
every other day and you're like not interested.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
All right, So until next time. We'll give Heather some
space to finish this week's episode. It's going to be
super hot in six.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
You need to give me some space anyway.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
Yeah, and I'm gonna go do nothing right.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Sounds about right. I'll get some snacks, all right, Dylan.
All right, nobody cares about your snacks.
Speaker 1 (50:51):
Bye bye,
Hey, y'all, welcome back to Mountain Murders sometime this week.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm Heather and I'm Dylan, reporting live from the Mountain
Murder Studio.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Yeah, that's right. I like that.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Well, we're going to be very serious today.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Oh oh, excuse me. Welcome to the studio. Yes, we
have news and stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Oh yeah, so professional Dylans. Yeah yeah, Dylan. We have
a lot of crying to discuss today. Recap some headlines,
news headlines.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Yeah, well, you know, I don't I've kind of been
in the dark this week. No big surprise, I'm sure,
but I don't really know what's popping on the true
crime headlines. So I'm here for it.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
All right. Well, one of the big headlines this week
is that Lylemanindez has been denied parole decades after he
and his brother were convicted of the nineteen eighty nine
shotgun murders of their parents in Balills.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
So this is a I find that kind of surprising.
So we've had a resentencing, right, we had a recentencing
with them, and that a lot of people thought would
give them the possibility of being parole. And so yeah,
as much ado about nothing, right, Fifty.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Seven year old Lyle appeared via video conference from the
correctional facility in San Diego for his parole hearing on Friday,
August twenty second, and did not go as well as
he hoped. So not going to be released. I don't
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know what to say, Dylan. I've really thought they had
a chance.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I not only thought they had a chance, I honestly
think they deserve a chance at parole, because certainly, I mean,
how many times, how many cases have we heard of
people rapists, murders, molesters, child predators who serve very little
time and serve certainly seem to get let out the
first chance that they get. And I definitely don't think
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they pose a threat to anyone else unless prison life
has hardened them or made them very mean, or you
know whatever. I'm sure being in jail that long changes
a person in ways many ways. But yeah, I'm kind
of surprised as well.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Well. The decision comes one day after his brother, Eric
Menendez fifty four, was denied parole. The Parole Commissioner, Robert
Barton has said that Eric has not exactly been.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
A model prisoner, oh.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, and called the brothers killings quote devoid of human compassion.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Oh, well, you know that that certainly matters your behavior
and the way you conduct yourself while in prison, So
you know, I could see that being a big.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Factor, very I guess, very big news right now.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
If they were to get out, how do you think
it would go for them in the modern twenty twenty
five true crime, in podcast world and all the way
entertainment is nowadays?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Well, Lyle, he's the Baldwin, right, the bald one, not
the Baldwin. He's the bald one. So I'm feeling like
he might get some hair extensions.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Oh you think he's just gonna go straight to dreads.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Well, I don't know about the dreads, but I think
he might get some extensions. Oh maybe get some hair plugs.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah, but that sounds expensive.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Who got their parents' money? Where did the inheritance go?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah, that was a considerable estate, right do we know?
I don't know. Maybe they had like a poodle or
something that's been living hoigh on the hog this whole time.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Well, I was just gonna say, maybe that could get
him some hair plugs.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
I don't know, Dylan, Okay, maybe it's all been invested
in cryptocurrency. Welcome to twenty twenty five of menandez brothers.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Well, doesn't seem like they're going to be welcome to
twenty twenty five. They're still in jail.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Well, you know, all I can say is, don't shoot
your parents in the face with a shotgun, even if
they are pieces of shit.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Probably solid advice. Thanks Dylan Baton Rouge, Louisiana making headlines,
a man was arrested on theft charges after being accused
of stealing packs of frozen meat from grocery stores.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
What was his mode of theft? How was he concealing
these said packages of meat?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Well, let's see what the article tells us here. This
is seven news. According to the Livingston pair of Sheriff's Office,
deputies responded to this collar on ten am. It was
about a man leaving a neighborhood Walmart without paying for
concealed items and returning to allegedly do it again. Witnesses
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shared the suspect's appearance in the vehicle he was driving
with deputies. They also said that the suspect had been
stuffing all of these packs of meat into his pants.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Nice dude, if I had a nickel for every time
I've been accused of concealing large meat packages in my
pants so many times I lost count.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
You'd have a penny, No I have, I'd be rich
like you'd been a deficit on what's that bulge?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
But like I'll bet you wish you.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Knew, honey, what this? Oh, bless it.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I'm not even allowed in like forty three states on it.
It's outlawed for me to even wear sweatpants.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Bless your heart, that's true. The gray sweatpants are out
for you.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
After issuing a be on the lookout for the vehicle,
police officers located the guy on Range Road, which is
near I twelve, not that I know where that is.
Once stopped, officers found packs of meat. This included packs
of lean Hamburger meat, four packs of rabbis, eight packs
of Angus rabbis. After further investigation, deputies found that more
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packs of meat were stolen from another store and the
entire I guess estimated my out of stolen meat comes
in eight hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Damn. So he's just driving like a meat car now to.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Get this stelen. The meat was returned to stores but
will not be sold resold. The packs must be destroyed.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Oh well, you know, I feel like they should. The
store should have the right to offer like a special sale,
like a stolen pant meat, you know, at a very
steep discount, and just give the consumer the option of
whether they want to buy it or not.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Michael Odwong because I'm trying to use Mont louisianaccent, right.
Michael Odwin fifty seven, was arrested and booked into the
Livingston Parish Detention Center as an extensive theft conviction. He
has seventy four prior arrests, twenty six of those for theft,
and he had nine convictions total. So this guy has
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a career criminal, yeah, and he just wanted some meat.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
And what is why is he out? Why is he
a out to even be in the community. I mean, honestly,
career criminals like these, I mean, why don't you just
put them on a work a labor camp somewhere growing back?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
But you were gonna say, don't you just put him
on a leash? Well that then I imagined him. He's
like tied up to the jail. It just keeps running,
like jumping, trying to get you know, get down, get
free from the leash, trying to steal a little kid
trying to the leash.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, talking about don't get near him, he'll try to steal.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Stop, he'll bite you.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Well, you know, it seems like a person like this
just never learns from their mistakes, you know. I mean,
at what point do you decide that you're okay for
one that many arrests and convictions. You're not that good
of a criminal, right, No, Yeah, you kind of suck, Michael.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
You need to find a job, bud.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
But not. But can we appreciate the fact that he
is health conscious and he stole the lean ground beef.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
He did, Yeah, he did. I don't know about those ribbis.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Though, Well maybe he's just on like a cornivore diet.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Okay, Yeah, I don't know how those don't kill people.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Dude.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
That has to wreck your health somewhat, right, Man.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
I see people talking about all they eat is meat
and like twelve eggs for breakfast and stuff like this,
and I'm just like, how are you now on the
edge of death's door with your cholesterol and stuff like
that and your sodium intake. It's a good question because
just even trying to be high protein you run into
you run into issues like fat intake and.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Sodium you know, it wouldn't work for me either, because
I go through periods of time where I find meat
kind of disgusting. Oh well, like I you know, especially
if I cook the meat, like if I see the
meat raw, and then I prepare the meat and then
I'm just kind of like, oh, and I don't want
to eat it.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
So you're saying the sucklent juices kind of gross.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
You out a little bit.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah, yeah, you like clean meat.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I just need someone to bring me the meat, like
pre cooked, like just cook it and bring it to me. Okay,
gorilla and bring it to me. I don't need to
I don't want to see all the I don't need
to know how the sausage is made. I guess that's
what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
You just want to enjoy the sausage.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah right, just put the meat in my mouth.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Some dry sausage.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
I don't know why that is. Thinking about this man
shoving packages of meat down his pants and I need
to know what kind of pants was he wearing.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Well, I just don't And it's all red meat, Okay,
let's be honest. So he might not be as health
conscious as we thought.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
And I also want to ask him, after he shoved
all of this meat in his pants, does he have
any more room for me in those jeans?
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Ah? Yes, like that, I do like that. Well, look
here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
It's got to be uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
It's also Walmart meat you're.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Going to be walking around with, like, oh, maybe it's
kind of kinky, Like, oh yeah, I got this ribb
I shoved up under my ball sack.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
If I want to put meat in my pants, I
think I want to be freshly butchered and prepared.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
You're going to go to like the artisan meat shop. Yeah,
you want to go to the butcher.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I'm gonna go to the fresh market, Okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Their meat seems.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Okay, their meat seems okay.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I have to complain, though, I have gotten some steaks
there and feel like I'm getting a better quality steak
at just the grocery store down the street.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Well, the unnamed grocery store you speak of has the
best meats in town. They do, and they really do.
They seem to. Is it a more highly skilled butcher
that could be part of it? Or what's the deal?
Because you go to the fresh market, everything's fairly expensive,
really expensive, right, everything? And you think that you're going
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to get the highest quality, and it doesn't seem to
be the case on these mignon.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
One time I tried to buy some black sesame seeds
from the fresh market and a jar was like twelve dollars.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
My god.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I was like, you know what, this recipe can have
white sesame seeds. Yeah, Dylant, we have to talk about
this because we like to talk about shipbirds, we do,
and this guy is a super creep Roman Gonzalez was
busted on April ninth at the Union Square subway station
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for pleasuring himself in front of a woman on the
train platform, the sixth time he's been nabbed for public
lewdness and the thirty second time he's been arrested since
nineteen eighty three.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Here we go.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Sixty seven year old Gonzales was back out on the
streets immediately after his arrest a week later because the
chargees I'm sorry, the charges aren't fail eligible.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yeah, so they're not serious enough. In other words, so.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
A lot of people are questioning, like, how can you
be doing this since nineteen eighty three and still be
out on the street.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
As well? They should because a lot of time, a
lot of the time. These deviant behaviors are very mild
misdemeanors or you know, public exposure or lewdness or whatever.
And the only way to fix that is to through
legislation local and statewide, at the very least, to criminalize,
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to make this a more serious penalty. Right, So get this.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
His long rap sheet includes charges for petty theft, petty larceny,
possession of stolen credit cards, grand larceny, and menacing. Oh
is menacing?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I think you just be mean mugging. Somebody say menacing.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
You staring at me sideways with your dick in your
hand is pretty menacing, that is.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
He never did prison time in New York by two
thousand and five. He was arrested for forcible touching. In
twenty sixteen for sex abuse, and later that same year
for public lewdness when he masturbated on the G line
at Broadway in Northern Boulevard in Astoria.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
God all the way down the G line. Huh.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Now. In that case, the victim, a twenty six year
old woman, managed to catch Gonzales on video, which helped
cops arrest him a month later. The case was sealed
and there was no information available about it, I guess
at the time of this report. By February twenty third,
he was allegedly added again masturbating in front of a
woman on the End train in Manhattan. He was arrested
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March eighteenth, but despite his criminal history, walked away with
just a little desk ticket like don't do this again.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
A little like warning put your penis away. Yeah, man,
somebody needs to beat this guy's ass. I mean, that's
for real. This is disgusting behavior, and I mean this
is just the crazy shit that women deal with. And
for something like this to not be that big of
a penalty is a slap in the face to every
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woman in a community where a piece of shit like
this lives.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Well, here's the thing. He's been busted thirty two times
for various crimes, and six of those have been for
sex crimes. And yet he's still out. Now this is
since nineteen eighty three, So what over forty years this
guy has been doing shit all over the city, Yeah,
whacking his mole whatever, and he's and he's not in jail.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
And these are just times he got caught. So it's
a guarantee that he's done this many times and not
got caught and victimized many people.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I'm just fling away by by the story.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
It's disgusting, its deviant behavior, and it's very dangerous and
it's you know, peeping. All that shit is kind of
still to this day viewed as like, oh, it's kind
of like a joke or something.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Well, we were discussing this last night. In some of
these major cities, like New York City, you were not
allowed to carry weapons.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Right day, everyday citizen.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
A handgun you cannot, so you don't have any opportunity
to protect yourself.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yeah, no knives, no guns, no brass knuckles, no mace
in some instances, and it's like and these are for
this is for the the trustworthy, everyday set, is hard working,
everyday citizen. Why can't I have Why can't I have
something to protect myself?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Why can't I pepper spray this guy's dick when he's
got it out?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Yeah, why can't I whip out a can of bear
bear mace and just light this guy up? But then
only the criminals and people who don't follow laws and
rules are the ones who have weapons.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
And it really he's got a weapon in his hands.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
It's a very small caliber it very it seems very
backwards to me. Honestly, it's it just doesn't seem like
that makes your community safer. Sorry, it doesn't, Dylan.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Have you heard of out this case in California where
forty one year old Rebecca I think it's Hoiro reported
that her seven month old son was kidnapped from a
sporting goods store.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Oh my gosh, no, I have.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Not, okay, Emmanuel hoiro seven month old baby was reportedly
kidnapped from the Big five sporting goods store. The mom
claims someone came up, like punched her in the face,
took the baby. But guess what. Mom and dad have
been arrested on suspicion of murder after the child was
falsely reported kidnapped. According to authorities, Jake Hoiro thirty two,
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and Rebecca Hoiro, forty one, were taken into custody at
their home in Cabazon, which is ninety miles east of
La The agency sin I'm sorry. The San Bardino Sheriff's
Department added that it would continue to investigate and search
for this child. Oh thank god, so again the child
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was missing on August fourteenth. She told investigators that she
took her children to football practice with her husband, and
then she stopped at this big five sporting good store
to buy her older son a mouthguard. She was attacked
while she was trying to change her son's diaper in
the parking lot. Somebody said O lot to her, and
then everything just went black. Oh, I guess somebody punched
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her in the face. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah, after a very friendly broke.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Up on the floor and her son was gone.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Got yet another case of parents reporting a child missing
or whatever and then and possibly they're to won the
biggest threat to their own child.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Authority said there was no security footage in the area
at the time. An Amber alert was not issued due
to a lack of suspect or vehicle descriptions. So I
guess it didn't meet criteria for an activation of an
AMBER alert.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yeah, there's no information to relate to the public.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
How Over the weekend, the couple stopped cooperating with investigators,
and they noted several inconsistencies in the mother's story. Multiple individuals,
including the child's parents, were interviewed by the Sheriff's Department
during questioning. These incon inconsistencies were noted in Rebecca's original
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statement and then after that she chose not to continue
the interview once confronted about her inconsistencies.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Well imagine that.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
So, after numerous interviews, analyzing digital and electronic evidence, investigators
determined that this kidnapping never happened and they do believe
the child is deceased and they are now searching for
his remains. They hoped to recover those poor little baby. Yeah,
so the husband, the father, Jay Carrow, previously pleaded guilty
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to child cruelty charges in Riverside County, but that was
a separate case back in twenty eighteen. At the time
he was arrested that he was still on probation for
those charges. Really, yeah, he did not serve in state
prison for four years, as being reported. He had reached
a deal through a plea agreement, according to the Sheriff's office.
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But he has acknowledged his role in the situation and says,
you know, there was more than one person convicted at
the time, which I mean, let's be honest, that doesn't
really make a difference. You're still a piece of crap
because you hurt a child.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah, who cares if you had buddies along with you
to hurt some child.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Anyway, I think that it's a very sad story and
these kinds of things just break my heart. How could
you do that to your own child?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
It just doesn't add up for me. I mean, you're
supposed to be the one that protects them from everything.
It's almost honestly, I think it should be in a
special category of you know, for as far as penalty
and everything goes, along with some other things we've discussed before,
it should be a special it's stenuating circumstance that you
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harm your own child should be worse, a bigger deal
than you know, no matter than anyone else.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Dylan, we have a real life Jaws situation happening. Oh really,
Dundon Dundone, Scarborough, Maine. Now, I know that Jaws was
filmed in and around Martha's Vineyard in Massachusetts, and Amity
Island is supposedly in New York, but we're talking about
just New England in general here, Right. They typically do
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not get great white.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Sharks off the northeast coast.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Right, But in Scarborough, Maine, there have been reports of
a large great white shark near some of the most
popular beaches, and it even prompted one coastal town to
issue a warning on Tuesday. Marine resource officers got word
of this roughly ten to twelve foot shark on Monday.
The shark was spotted in the area of Crescent Beach,
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State Park, Higgins Beach, and Pine Point Beach. These are
all located within a half hour's drive of Portland, Maine.
A commercial clam fisherman named David Lancaster was able to
take drone footage of the shark swimming just beneath the surface.
You can actually see its gray fin poking through the
gentle swells. He seems surprised and describes the shark as
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magnificent in the video. So, I mean a lot of
folks around are saying, it's pretty crazy to see this
in local waters.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Have you ever seen where they'll tag these great whites?
And have you ever seen what their journeys look like. Yeah,
they go so far. They will go to the other
side of the dagum world and come back to an area.
I mean, it's crazy how far and quickly they can swim.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Now way sharks again were made pretty famous fifty years
ago in the movie Jaws, and they're not commonly seen
off Maine, but they have lived in the state's water
for centuries, so it's not like it's completely unheard of.
Sightings have ticked up in recent years, and signists say
they think the state's growing population of seals could be
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the reason for more shark activity because white sharks feed
on marine mammals such as seals.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Still kind of a wild story, right.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Well yeah, I mean, could you imagine just any dorsal
fan a shark fin on any shark could be work.
You know, is typically going to give people the creeps
or freak them out. But this is a monster of
an animal.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
I've seen very small sharks, yeah, like little baby sharks
singing doo doo do doo, doo doo doo wash up
on the beach on the east coast here, yeah, you know,
in Carolina beaches, I should say. And even that is unnerving.
They're scared to see some tiny little shark and to think,
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holy shit, like that was swimming here. Now it's up
on the beach. Where's its mama, where's its daddy? Shark?
Do do do do do? Mama, shark doo do do
do do?
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Grandpa shark do do do?
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Dylan has grandkids That's that's how we know the song
do that song rocks, So we jam it, We jam
it that song.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
I don't care who you are, the girls.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
In their car seats in the back. Yeah, and we
crank it up and we'll be jamming.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
It's an earworm, is yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Then I find myself singing it for days.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, so that's on rocks. Yeah, but uh yeah, great
sharks are great white sharks. Obviously one of them, I
gotta say, is likely what top three or five carnivores
on the planet. I mean, up there with polar bears, grizzlies.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
And Michael and.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yes, Michael and and one the the meat pants guy, yeah,
and uh yeah, but they're just uh, I mean, they're
really amazing creatures.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
And the super predator on the subway super scary. Yeah. Yeah,
we've had three super scary people on the well. Mammals
on the pod today, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
It's going down. Well. Yes, sharks aren't mammals. They're not.
They're not. I don't even know if they're a I
don't think they're a fielish.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Seriously, I've gotten really dumb in the last couple of years.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
You never heard you ever heard of shark milk. I
know they can make milk out of anything nowadays, But
you've never heard of shark milk. Yeah, I have, and
they would not, huh.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
I suckle a shark's team once.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
I don't think that they you've never milked a shark, greg,
I was hungry.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
I was hungry and trapped in a wal's belly.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Oh, but the shark was in there.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
No, the whale let me out to go suckle from
the shark's teat.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Apparently they were in a on and off again relationship.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Okay, I don't have I don't like to talk about
my youth. You shouldn't, I mean, really, stop this is
kind of.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
A crazy story. Dylan, an eighteen year old who was
reported missing from Florida two years ago, has been arrested
in connection with the murder of a twenty three year
old man in North Carolina. What According to reports from
outlets The News and Observer and CBS seventeen, Gracie Elizabeth
Faye Landa was arrested on Monday, August twentieth. I'm sorry, eighteenth.
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I apparently can't read numbers either. In connection with the
killing of Christopher pied Drasanta Perez on May thirtieth, the
News and Observer reported that Piedrosanta Perez was one of
three people shot inside a vehicle on Romont Drive. This
is located in Durham's northern side. Well there's your problem, Yurreham.
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Twelve thirty am Durham's pre dangerous place.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
That's not somewhere I would be doing the late night walkarounds.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Probably not. Two women were also injured in the shooting,
but authorities have not specified if Landa was in the
car or how she is connected to Piedro Sante Perez.
In a report from the Office of the Medical Examiner,
investigators state that Piedro Santra Perez was sitting in the
car with two friends near a Durham park when two
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people approached and again firing shots into the car. More
than forty casings were found damn area, including some belonging
to a nine millimeter and others to a two to
twenty three rifle. Piedro Santa Perez's autopsy states that he
sustained a gunshot wounded the head. Of course, there were
nine to one one calls obtained by the outlet by
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one of the victims, and she states that she shot
ten times at least pretty vicious, dude, So this is
like a all out gunfight. Landa was first reported missing
when she was sixteen years old from her home in Tampa, Florida.
This was back on June twenty seventh of twenty twenty three.
The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children later stated
(27:03):
they believed she had traveled to Durham, and though authorities
never formally announced that she had been found, Landa is
no longer considered a missing person on the center's website.
I mean this is kind of wild, right, well yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
I mean it's an outcome you don't usually hear in
a missing person's case.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
So, according to the warrant obtained by the News and Observer,
authorities alleged that one of the twenty three year old's
friends had planned to confront another person at the park
due to a conflict stemming from a romantic relationship. Man,
you can't be getting in the middle of these romantic relationships.
This is what happens. The warrant does not specify Landa's
alleged ties to the incident. Per the warrant, security camera
(27:46):
footage of the incident from a nearby building showed two
people coming out of the woods and firing shots at
the car. Then the two suspects fled into the woods.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Well, it seems like a cowardly move on the shooter's bark, right,
I mean so it sounds like basically an ambush.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I don't get these romantic relationships and people feel like
they got to go around like killing each other, just
get away from each other.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
I don't get the gun player.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I'm going to fight over a man, I'm not going
to fight over a chick.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Can we say that? Like, we've always heard of gun
violence in America and to our listeners not in America,
you probably know of it too. We're known to have
lots of guns, yeah, and not afraid to use them
kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Right.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
All throughout our history and many different big events, you know,
changes in our culture and society, guns have always played
a part. But it seems like nowadays that people are
the willingness to shoot in public for basically no reason.
(28:52):
We've always heard this usually tied up in gang violence
and things like that. If you're in an area where
there's active gangs, you'll have this type of thing happening.
But it's almost like that's been moved over into the mainstream,
this willingness to fire a gun in public for no reason, right,
I mean, it's very scary.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
It is very scary. And the other I guess aspect
of that is a lot of these gun crimes are
committed by very young people. Yeah, and the victims are
very young people, and it's just snuffing out of life.
I mean, that's there's such a waste of potential there.
It's true both both the victim obviously, but the person
involved the assailants, because they're going to end up in prison, ruin,
(29:35):
their lives ruined they.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Killed someone or injured someone. It's really, it's really so dumb.
It's such a dumb move, and it's it's really, uh,
I guess, tied up in people with no impulse control,
no control over their emotionals. It's a very emotional response
and it's one I think the only reason. And I'm
not anti gun. I mean, we have a we have
(29:58):
a piece, we have a a stack of hot lead
to you know, serve up to some fools just trying
to bust up on us, right, And as long as
you don't bust up on us, you won't get shot.
Here at the Mountain Murner Studio. Stay strapped, Stay strapped.
But you know, we get, we got some we can get,
we can serve it up. But we're responsible gun owners
and we're normal citizens. Just your willingness to bring a
(30:21):
gun or to use one towards another human being over
the dumbest shit, it really just blows my mind.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
I blame Johnny Cash. It all started when Johnny shot
that man and Reno just to watch him die.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Oh yeah, and then wrote a song about it.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Right, He really downplayed his roles violence, He really downplayed
his role in that obvious murder.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Well, I mean, you know, young people's lives are shattered.
You've got communities left with just devastation from these types
of things. Yeah, and then you've got these families they've
lost their loved one, and these are all young people,
it seems, and everybody deserves a future. I don't know,
(31:04):
I just think it's really sad.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
It is sad, it really is. And I mean what
I was saying earlier, the only reason to brandish weapon
or use the weapons to protect yourself if you think
someone's gonna kill you, right.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Well, I don't know you can even go to jail
for that nowadays it seems like they don't want you
to protect yourself.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Well, you know, it's I was listening to this thing
the other day. It's like they've put the burden of
responsibility on victims nowadays, right, I mean used to the
burden was on the criminal, Like, hey, if you got
shot in the back running away from breaking into someone's house,
maybe you shouldn't have been breaking in their house, right,
(31:43):
But nowadays it seems to be you have to try
everything and you have to cross all your t's and
dot all your i's as the victim or you know,
in any some other instances, you got to make sure
and have you know, everything in order.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
What I find fascinating is how nowadays, oftentimes the media
portrays the perpetrator as the victim.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Right, if there's some kind of retaliation against a person
who's attacking you, or they break in your house, they
have a weapon, you shoot them. Somehow, they're the victim.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
They won't use words like it.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
It's really amazing to me when I see that kind
of thing.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
It's crazy talking about. And oftentimes it is these young
people like you said, no lead with their ages, right,
thirteen and a fourteen year old were shot in the face,
and you'll be like, oh gosh, you know, but when
you see that they were actively home invading or carjacking
or carjacking someone.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Heay, you were telling me a guy had shot some
young people who were trying to steal his.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Car, right, yes, just recently. Now, I tell you where
the guy screwed up. And I think this is where
he messed up. Is he chased the perpetrators. Like he
comes out. It's like the third or fourth time someone's
tried to steal his car. He sees hooded all in
black figures, right, they run off, He jumps in the car,
(33:10):
chases them down and shoots, Which is you messed up there. Okay,
you went too far. But the way that whole story
was presented and talked about, instead of saying, hey, he's two,
because it was it was literally a fourteen and the
thirteen year old kids, instead of saying they were trying
(33:31):
to steal this man's car and got shot, they would
say things like, oh, they were accused of attempting to
take a car that wasn't theirs. And see words matter, right,
and I don't know why we're sugarcoating what they were doing.
And and I'm not how am I supposed to know
it's a young person when all I see is a
you know, a hooded.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Figure into consideration if someone has tried to steal your car,
or has stolen your car in the past, I mean,
and if it's happened multiple times, that's traumatic for any person.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Right it is, because it really is someone taking your
property or breaking into your home. Is such a true violation,
a violation of sanctity of your home where you're supposed
to feel safe.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
We did not take into consideration this man's experience and
how it shaped his opinion or attitude, or that he
felt maybe unsafe or whatever and kind of reacted in
the moment.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Well, it seems to not taken into any account his
emotional state or his emotional reaction to have been violated
multiple times, or his fear level. Did he do the
wrong thing jumping in the car and driving off the
property and chasing them down? Yes? Absolutely, was he in
a frenzied state, you know, in just in a very
emotional state and in like a fearful state that had
(34:54):
him outside his normal perception quite possibly, And should he
have had some kind of you know, repercussions for what
he did. Yeah, sure he shouldn't have go off, but
fifty four years, oh.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
We got fifty four years fifty four years d.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
And then all the talk about these kids is about
all the loss of the one dying, and no one's
saying that I wish they hadn't tried to steal that
guy's car, they wouldn't have got shot. See that's the
way I view it, honestly, if they hadn't been doing
this what twelve thirteen.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Fourteen, very high risk situations out trying to steal shit
like this, dude, Well, that's like if you go rob
a bank and you get shot, are you going to
be surprised that someone shot you for trying to rob
a bank? I mean it, I don't know. It just
doesn't really make sense to me. And I don't understand
the world we live in where we make excuses for
criminals and don't want them punished. No, and somehow everyone
(35:50):
you know, the victims are the responsible party, it's your faults, you.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Shouldn't re vict him. Well, in Rome, Georgia, that guy
shot had more with three or four people trying to
kick his door in and he comes out hot and
kills like three of them with the gunfire. Whose fault
is that? How in the hell can you blame the
gun owner or the homeowner in that situation.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
I don't know. I'm glad I live in the state
that's got the castle doctrine.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
All I know is he was a good shot. I mean, shit,
if you're going to have him, you might as well practice.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Now, Dylan, you're on TikTok. I rarely get on there
because I think it's a syop. It is a siop,
but I still go try to make everybody depressed. There
was this viral I guess story in Virginia where people
on TikTok were saying there were mass kidnappings. Oh, it
(36:41):
was really scaring people on TikTok and folks are saying
it mirrors the horror movie Weapons. But police are saying
this is all a false alarm.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
They were saying was mass kidnappings.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Yeah. So after this social media posts, I guess, there
were multiple social media posts that stoked viral fears that
children were being abducted across Virginia. State police had to
make an announcement that these rumors were not true. There
are not multiple missing children across the Commonwealth of Virginia,
and that the Virginia State Police is not investigating any
(37:14):
reports of mass subductions in the state, and there's no
evidence of mass subductions occurring in Virginia.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Well, and this right here shows you what happened, because
I can guarantee you through experience, and Heathery're telling me
multiple times that I'm a dumbass that when you see
any breaking news, unless it's literally trusted or known legacy source,
even if you don't agree with the mainstream media, it
is one hundred percent false. And you see these breaking
(37:45):
news banners on all kinds of stories, and people just
run with it. They don't fall for it, they don't coruct.
But to the point that officials, state officials have to
come out and lay the fears of the public by
making official announcement against something like this, much like the
time the CDC had to come out and say, no,
(38:07):
there isn't a zombie out break, right, I mean, it's
of course that you couldn't. I'm not sure there wasn't
a zombie o break because that got on that bridge
in Florida was eating that man's face. I don't think
you can blame that on bat salts. I think that's
the virus.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
The TikTok frenzy, as it has been described, has drawn
comparisons to the new horror movie Weapons, in which children
go missing. It sparks widespread panic and violent chaos.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Now I see that. I want to go see Weapons.
I've heard, you know, people say it was pretty good original,
which is great nowadays to see something that's not a
reboot or remake. So may we should go check that
movie out. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Man, it's just people will believe anything. And the other
part of that are these content creators.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
It's irresponsible who go around.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Just making up shit and putting it out there and
it does kind of cause it an uproar, and in
the end of the day, you're just a liar.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Yeah, just for clicks and views.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
That's kind of troubling, right.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Oh, there's absolutely no conscience when it comes to the
rage baiting and things like that.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Rage baiting, Yeah, is that when you're masturbaiting or mad?
That's what the guy was doing on the subway.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Yeah, maybe it was rage rage master rage baiting.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Now, Dylan, this is one of our top crime stories
of the episode.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Are you ready okay?
Speaker 2 (39:42):
A California Sheriff's office shared photos of a bear that
broke into an ice cream parlor and helped itself to
some strawberry ice cream behind the counter.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Okay, this is a top news story. Yeah, so the
bear likes strawberry. That that's what bears like, strawberry ice cream.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
The bear did not cause a lot of property damage,
and there was barely any cleanup because he definitely made
good on his licks of this ice cream.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
So he knew what he wanted and he didn't make
a mess, and he just went straight for the strawberry
ice cream.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
And I can appreciate he is being charged with a
ben e oh, but he sounds like he has more property,
more manners than many people. So this happened at an
ice cream shop at Camp Richardson in South Lake Tahoe.
And of course the deputies who arrived on the scene
could barely believe their eyes see this very large bear
(40:39):
behind the counter and he's just going to town eating
some ice cream and he chose strawberry. Okay, yeah, there
you go.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Well, thank you for that. That was that was a
nice little story.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
I thought I thought you would enjoy that.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Dying amongst the sharks and the hand penises.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Yeah, I have something terrifying out of South Carolina. A
little bit of strange news for you. But everybody knows.
In my mind, lock this thing up. It's a crime.
So a family of animal lovers teamed up with another
local resident in South Carolina to wrangle a twelve foot
yellow python that had been on the loose in the
(41:18):
area for weeks. Oh my gosh, this is in Newberry County.
This python. I guess it's an albino reticulated python. What
makes it a reticulated python?
Speaker 1 (41:32):
I think that's how that.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
I don't know what the hell does reticulated mean? Is it?
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Well? I mean if you see an unreticulated python, you'll
know the difference.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
I will. Yeah, all right, So this is so. This
albino reticulated python has been on the loose for several
weeks in Newberry County. A Prosperity resident named Warren Gaalman
ventured out with his son Jordan and his nephew Jaden
Atchison when they reported the sighting of this thing. First,
(42:04):
the trio visited the scene of the sighting, about two
miles from Galman's home in search the area with Evan Turner,
another nearby resident Turner spotted the twelve foot snake after
about a fifteen minute search, and Gallman was able to
grab the reptile's head. No the amateur reptile wranglers were
able to safely capture the snake. Gallman suffered a few
scrapes from being pulled into the bushes by the python.
(42:26):
My gosh, it's big enough to pull you into the bushes.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
It's twelve foot long and probably freaking six inches across.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Don't want to think about I would have killed it.
Thin about that.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
I would never try to take it alive.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Now, the snake's origin story remains a mystery, but local
authorities believe it was someone's pet that has gotten loose,
or maybe somebody dumped it out, because the snake is
definitely not native to the area right. A herpetologist at
Riverbank's Zoo and Garden agreed with the Sheriff's department's assessment
(43:04):
that this is not a native snake. He said, quote,
a lot of people buy these snakes when they're two
to three feet long, and you've got a cage that's
four feet long, and that's fine for a couple of years,
but eventually the snake is going to get up to
fifteen plus feet long. Jesus and a lot of people
can't accommodate what the snake needs for its entire life,
(43:24):
and then that becomes a difficult situation.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Yeah, you got to start feeding it like baby goats
and shit. So reticulated refers to the pattern on the pithon.
So it has like those splotchy circular patterns. Okay, you've
seen that, I'm sure on TV on snakes when you
turn it before you turn your head, and then I
guess the one that's not a reticulated would be like
(43:46):
just a smooth, solid color. Okay, so it's probably a
pretty snake, pretty big.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Well, the herpetologist says that if you can't take care
of a snake, that releasing it is terrible for the
environment and terrible for the snake because it's gonna die.
It's not going to be able to survive. So she'd
kill it to Well, you probably need to rehome it. Oh,
maybe a zoo would take it, some kind of you know,
wildlife refuge in nature center or something would be My guess,
(44:18):
why is your first thought.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
Go to kill it? Well, if I'm not supposed to
let it loose and I can't take care of it.
I mean, what other options do I have?
Speaker 3 (44:25):
But I guess I could Craigslist. Try one of the
seven free stuff on Craigslist. I could try one of
the uh you know what I would do. I would
give away. I would find a yard cell dresser buy
it for like ten bucks. I would cram the snake
and take all the drawers out, cram the snake in there,
and then put the faces of the drawers back on,
and then I would give the dresser away for free.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
That is cruel and I hate snakes, but that is cruel.
So my thought is you put the snake in a
box and you've donated it to good Will.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Ooh right, a big box?
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Yeah, okay, now a shoe box. Doing all right?
Speaker 1 (44:58):
So that was a that was some crazy stories. Right,
nice little roundup of the true crime news of the week.
News of the week, that's right, brought.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
To you by Mount Murders New Studio, your professional newscasters
over here.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Yeah, that's Rightly, I'm.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Really good at reading.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
I can use my phone.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
I can read aloud.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Oh, so thank you for that, Heather. Yeah, what else?
We got things to do? We gotta get on with
our chores.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Chores.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Yeah, I'm not doing enough chores. I don't want I
don't want to do nothing.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Man, I hate chores.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
My day off.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
I don't like chores. I don't want to do them anymore.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
I should be allowed to do absolutely nothing if that's
what I want to do. But that's just not how
life works out.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
When you say to do nothing, like, what do you mean,
what is your ideal do nothing day?
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Well, I mean it's not complicated. I'm talking nothing. The
only thing I want to do is reposition myself in
various places around the house, usually accompanied by maybe a
TV or a pillow. Services. I keep a pillow closer.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
Notice that you you have a little pillow that should
be dragging all around.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Yeah, I like to lean on it, and you never
know when you want to lay down, right, But then
I hate to have to get up if I want
to lay down, and like get the stuff to lay down.
So I keep a pillow and I throw blanket a
lot blanket at hand at all times. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
It drives me crazy because then I have to clean
up your napping materials. Yeah, even if you just leave
a trail of I wake up in the morning and
there's just like a trail of Dylan's napping materials. There'll
be like two or three different throws. Yeah, on the couch,
on the chair.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
On the love seat, my knees, get cadillo.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
Then you'll go to bed and like not take the pillow.
I forget, and then you'll like so then you'll have
some terrible pillow or I'll take your pillow. Yeah, you
take my pillow.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
Baby, I'm sorry, you're not.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
You do not sound like a man who's sorry.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
Yeah, but unfortunately it's not how life works out. And
also like snacks to be involved when I'm doing nothing, Okay,
streaming in snacks, bud.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
That sound's poring, all right, Because even on a day
when I'm like, oh, do nothing, I always end up
doing something because I have this ongoing internal battle where
I feel guilty if I'm just like relaxing, like it
should always be productive. You got to stop that, Like
productivity is always important in my brain for.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
Some reason, you deserve to do nothing sometimes, right, I
think some of the.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
Listeners will I don't deserve to do nothing, yea, my
brain says the opposite. When I'm trying to enjoy myself.
The brain is like you should be working on pod.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Okay, all right, so we'll get off here. Heather's going
to work on this week's case.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
Dude, I have to go ahead and make mention of
this Stelen, the episode that we will drop this week.
This case is very sexy. Ooh, okay, it's a lot
of sex. We're gonna talk about a lot of sex. Ooh, inseduction.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
We're gonna be like, gosh, what is it? Salt and paper, right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Pa, exotic dancing.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
Yeah, let's talk about it.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Pornography. Ooh yeah, there's a lot of sexy sexy stuff.
We need a lot of We need some sexy stuff
in our life. We need more sexy stuff in our life,
don't you think?
Speaker 1 (48:25):
Yeah? I guess yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
I want it like a tawny contain cardboard cutout.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Who is that the girl that rolled around on the
car in the White Snake video? Oh okay, I'm just saying, like,
some sexy stuff that's pretty sexy.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
Pretty sexy. I would be thinking about.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
Is it a Rolls Royce that she was like dancing
and flipping around on I don't know, I don't know
it's hot.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
I don't know. I've never I don't the car model,
sexy car model thing doesn't. I don't like it. I
don't like it. It does nothing for me.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
What you don't like. I love that you have such
a strong opinion about it. No, I don't like it.
I'm declaring it right now.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
No, I'm saying the calendars, the video anything to car share.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
You put a beautiful woman next to that Chevy bel air,
well yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
I mean I don't care monsters. I don't want it,
and then she's just rubbing all over it, and I'm
just like, god.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
See, you're missing the point.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
I don't know, because there's like.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
The curve of the car, the curve of a beautiful woman.
Speaker 1 (49:28):
I guess I'm not that into cars, I guess is
what the deal is.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
You're lame.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
Okay, my car show would be boring, I guess right,
because I don't. Really I'm not into cars. They're just utilitarian,
you know, machines. To me, I don't. I don't just
look at them and be like, oh, the car is beautiful,
you know.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
I'm just like, okay, Okay, well I do I enjoy
a classic car. Okay, Well, you can't on to multiple
car shows in my day.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
Oh wow, look, I'm in a parking lot with my
hood up. Check it out.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
I like to go look at that stuff. Episode does
my child.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
I'll put my hood up and you can look on you.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
Now you've just turned me off.
Speaker 1 (50:11):
What's see?
Speaker 2 (50:13):
This is a thing, Dylan. I don't get to indulge
in things I enjoy because you're such a grump, Doe.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
You like anything you've never ever been, Like, let's go
to this car show and I didn't go.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
That's a lot because I know you wouldn't go.
Speaker 1 (50:25):
You don't know that now you.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
Know that whatever. I'll be trying to get you to
go to the cruise end down with the bow Jingles
every other day and you're like not interested.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
All right, So until next time. We'll give Heather some
space to finish this week's episode. It's going to be
super hot in six.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
You need to give me some space anyway.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
Yeah, and I'm gonna go do nothing right.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Sounds about right. I'll get some snacks, all right, Dylan.
All right, nobody cares about your snacks.
Speaker 1 (50:51):
Bye bye,
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