September 13, 2025 • 47 mins
Carving our way into spooky season with some haunted tales! Mountain Murders discusses the most haunted places in Maine and New Hampshire. Working our way down the East Coast, we'll bring more hauntings as Halloween approaches.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, y'all, welcome back to Mountain Murderers. I'm Heather and
I'm dealing as always, and here we are on a
beautiful day.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
It's a Saturday, it's the weekend, and we thought, why
not drop a bonus episode for our amazing listeners out.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
There, because they are incredible.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Spooky season is a pawn us, Dylan, and I know
we're only in September, but it's never too early to
get a head start.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
It's true, you can always be spooky.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
You can always be spooky. So I thought we could
take some time to discuss the most haunted places. And
I've chosen Maine and New Hampshire today to discuss. Okay,
we're going to make our way down the East coast
over the next few weeks. Oh nice, heading into Halloween.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Oh, these are gonna be some great stories.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
All right. So you know what's interesting about the Granite
State New Hampshire, Dylan, is that it celebrated its four
hundredth birthday in tree. So with that much history, it
stands to reason that we would definitely have plenty of
ghost stories to go around, plenty of haunted places.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Right, Yeah, it's got to be full of old legends
and stuff of that nature. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
One of New Hampshire's famous hauntings is the oceanborn Mary
House in Hennecker.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
The ocean Born Mary House.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah. So, in seventeen twenty, a notorious pirate captain Okay,
I'm already, I already liked the story. We got a pirate,
Don Pedro, captured the ship Wolf off the shore of
Massachusetts when he spied a red haired baby. Okay, he
saw a little ginger that had been born just that
day on board. He promised to spare everyone's lives if
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the child was named after his mother, and so the
baby was named oceanborn Mary Wallace.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Barry grew up married and had children, and though she
was widowed at a very young eventually Captain Pedro tracked
Mary down and they ended up getting married and living
together in a mansion overlooking the town of Hennecker for
a number of years. One day, Mary found the body
of her murdered husband on the grounds of the house.
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Many suspected he was killed over pirate treasure. Mary buried
him under the huge hearthstone in the kitchen. She passed
away in eighteen fourteen at the age of ninety.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Four, so she lived a long, wide the full life.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Since then, the ghost of a tall, red haired woman
with glowing green eyes has appeared in the home. People
spot this apparition in an upstairs window and on the
main staircase of the home. Occupants of the house have
reported feeling Mary's ghostly presence, and some believe that she
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protects the house from harm.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Oh my gosh, Now that's quite a name she ended
up with.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Right, Well, it's just Mary Wallace.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
But well she's ocean born, right, House of the Water.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Mary's two story wood frame house is still a private residence.
Mary Wallace is buried in Center Cemetery behind the Hennecker
Town Hall.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
So this sounds like a very striking apparition, right, something
that would really stand out. The red hair, the glowing
green eyes.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Wow, yeah, oh kind of spooky.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah, it's kind of hot.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Glowing eyes.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah, freaks me out a little bit, are you sure?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah? It does? All right, Let's talk about the Nochland
Inn and Nancy Barton. A tombstone displayed in the parlor
of the inn reads seventeen seventy eight. Nancy Barton died
in a snowstorm in pursuit of her faithless lover. Nancy
was engaged, but her lover ran off with her dowry
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before the wedding could take place.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Wow, that's a big deal, scoundrel. Right.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Rather than just accept her fate and his treachery, she
soon set on a foot to find him, but was
caught up in the middle of this terrible like blizzard
like conditions. Friends found her body frozen next to a
brook that now bears her name.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Well, that's super sad.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, she stood up.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
He runs off with the dowry, which would actually means
now she might likely has no dowry to offer to
another suitor, which is very strange kind of system.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
But what a con man.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah, I know, he just takes it and runs.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
He's woos you and then takes the money and runs.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yes, the modern day of him giving him access to
your four oh one?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
K oh gosh does that happen?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
It's to love him and leave him con all right, Yeah,
love him.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
And leave him. The Omni Mount Washington Resort. This resort
was built in nineteen oh two by Joseph Stickney. The
hotel has garnered a name for itself because it has
one guess Dylan that never quite checks out. You want
to hear the legend? Yes Stickney's wife, Carolyn Foster Stickney,
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she was nicknamed the Princess or Princess Carolyn by hotel staff,
was left widowed after his death, eventually remarried a French
French royal prince named Jean Baptiste Marie de Fogini Lucinge.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Oh say that three times fast.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Since her death in nineteen thirty six, guests and snaff
report sightings a princess wandering the hallways of the third floor,
and she even walks down the stairs because she's she's hungry,
so she's looking for some food. So she comes down
like a sup of time.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
So this is not the aloof ghost that you kind
of catch a glimpse of. This one's just coming down
and making a snap.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
She's like my meat loaf. Now.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, yeah, it's a hungry.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Ghost, a hungry ghost. You know what, if I die
and come back as a ghost, I think I'll probably
end up being a hungry ghost. I'll be the ghost
that haunts the kitchen. Yeah, totally rummaging around on the
cap and that's looking for snacks.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
People will be like every time I go in there
for a midnight snack. I see her. Woo o, where's
the geese?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
You better hide the Little Debbie Pumpkin Delights?
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Now, can we talk about how it sided you were?
We just like, are trying to do the clean eating.
We have a bunch of healthy stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Doing meal prep.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
We're doing little minor meal prep. Yeah, but it's kind
of cool to have stuff already ready. It has its
pros and cons, especially during the work days and such.
But Heather was like, I have one one treat that
I had to have, and I was like, oh, yeah,
what is it? She pulls out of the cabinet a
box of the Little Debbie.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Is the only treat I bought at the store?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Is it the pup? What is it?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
The Pumpkin Delight?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Pumpkin Delights?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I wait all year for pumpkin Delights. Okay, I have
loved those things since I can remember.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
And they're a limited edition. It's a very short run, right,
we just say maybe a month and a half, two months.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, you probably get a good two months out of
the Pumpkin Delights.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
And I have to say I stole one of your
pumpkin Delight's.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Delicious, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
It was freaking amazing. It was so good, and it
really made me want a cup of coffee.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I don't even like Little Debbies anymore. I feel like
they've lost like the original taste and now they I
don't know, they just they don't taste as yummy as
they did when I was six years old.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
We always wondered did our palette grow up and change
or has the.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Snacks recipes have just changed so much?
Speaker 1 (07:26):
And I'm pretty certain that's a little bit of both.
But I think certainly the things just have different ingredients, cheaper,
more chemically, and a lot of the Little Debbie cakes
don't have that same taste from your youth.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
They don't. But the pumpkin delights always deliver. And if
I eat enough of those, you'll be calling.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Me big Debbie.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I'll be big deb Big deb because I eat like
a box of those.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
And like one sitting Oh God.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I can totally pick out. If you wouldn't judge.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Me, I know I would, I would just watch you
eat them.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
They're so good. And Judge I said that enough, they're
so good.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
She loves them.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah, all right, Dylan, let's move along. Here. We have
some more spooky stories. Hampton Beach. We've got the Island
Path road, and I'm going to tell you about the
Goodie Coal story. Goody was quite a nickname back in
the sixteen hundreds. Goody Goody had like Goodie Proctor from
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the witch trials.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Right.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I guess that was like, you know, if I called
you sweethearter honey, maybe kind of the equivalent of that.
I don't know. Accused of witchcraft in sixteen fifty six
and again in sixteen seventy one, Eunice Goodie Cole, who
lived at the end of Island Path, eventually died of
natural causes in sixteen eighty, after she had endured years
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of persecution and hatred damn from her community.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Well, that's just a terrible way to live.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
According to legend, she was buried by vine Full townspeople
with a steak through her heart. Another legend says that
kinder neighbors eventually properly buried her near today's meeting house screen.
But today the area all along the Island Path is
said to be haunted. There have been reports of moving objects, lights,
and a figure that appears in the fog.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
You reckon that was a bone in rivi they put
through a heart. Yeah maybe, Okay, was that your top
choice for what a stake through my heart?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Uh yeah, likely? I like the bone in river.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
All right, now, Dylan, we have a haunted horse, a
ghostly horse.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Now I feel like we don't have a We should
have more haunted animal stories, right, yeah, like a little
scary thing, don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Well, we have heard about some like haunted like dog
like apparitions.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Early years, basically like the hounds of hell.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
And I have heard people describe, you know, in certain places,
hearing like who you know, the sounds of hoofs.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Oh really around?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, am I am? I correct? And remembering that there
is actually a cryptid case of a black dog.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Well, I think the black dog is kind of a
common thing okay that people see.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
All right, I've seen a I've seen an animalistic shadow figure.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
We've both seen it. Yeah, at different times. Yeah, No,
that's true, true story.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I mean it could be. You can be a skeptic.
I'm a half skeptic, half believer in a lot of
things in my own mind, and you can say it
was the lights, the lighting and all that, and it
could have been you know, it could have been your
eyes mind playing a trick on you. But I mean,
you know, I still know what I experienced.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I know what I saw. Yeah, And then together we
were discussing it and we were like, wow, so we've
seen the same thing.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Well, I was describing to you, and you basically to
finished my description for me, and I was just like, okay,
so we've both had the seen the same as that
trick of lights or any of that.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I'd love to run up and down the road. Yeah,
certain road. I don't know. I mean, I guess it's
possible that there could be ghostly spirit animals, dogs, Yeah, yeah,
running around.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
They take it like a ghostly Pooh by the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
You know, if Rufus was a ghost, he's just gonna
beg for snacks too.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah, I know right, he would haunt the kitchen.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
We're turning into each other, me and Rufus. We both
love snacks and naps.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I'd be like that movie Bitch, where do a woman
turns into like a or at starts ounting like dogs
or something.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I don't know, Oh night, bitch, not bitch, that's it.
I haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
I haven't either. I mean the premise, I'm just like,
ah whatever. But now I kind of want to watch it.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Perhaps New Hampshire's only horse haunting. Now this is interesting.
This horse salt shelter in an abandoned building or a blizzard,
became trapped and is still trying to escape even in death.
And this is at Toll Hills, at Toll Hills, and
the horse's name was Epsoms. I guess people hear this
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horse trying to get out of a building, and they
hear ghostly horse noises and sounds and see ghostly horse
running around.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Horses are scary. I mean they scare me.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
The horses giving people high fives.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
I know a lot of people, some of our listeners
may have horses loving to death. There seems to be
a really strong bond between horse and horse owner. It's
like they really love the horse a whole lot. But
they're just such a big animal, and I guess I've
never been around them in the right way or I
don't know that's got that big mouth. And I'm always
afraid they might kick me, because when I see videos
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of people getting kicked, I'm like, oh my god, oh
my god, you're fucking that herb bro, like you should
be dead.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Well, I think I've discussed this before and on the pod.
But my uncle had some horses when I was a kid,
and I remember riding the horses and he had one
that was like older and more timid or like tame,
gentle horse, right, But then he had this one horse
that was like a maniac. Like this horse was wild
and I don't know if he should have had this
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horse because it was really I mean, it was wild.
And I remember as a kid being like, oh my gosh,
that horse is so mean because it would bite him, yeah,
and like kick, and I was really that kind of
made me afraid of horses because I felt like it
was a mean horse.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
He was around an ornery horse.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
An ornery horse, yeah, just matched all the other ornery
people in my life at the time. But yeah, horses
are so big and powerful, right, you know, I find
them a bit intimidating. But they are beautiful creatures.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Oh they're majestic.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
They're so pretty.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
It's really like nature. The power of nature like flows
through them. Right when you're watching a horse gallop or
you see them out in the fields. I'm out playing
with each other, and I don't know, They're just like
a majestic animal.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
And I do enjoy watching equestrian events, like I've never
been to one in person, which would be really cool.
We do have an equestrian center not too far away,
so maybe we should check something like that out.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Yeah, there was actually we were.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Out just watching that on TV or you see clips
on the internet, and we.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Were not long ago in the National Park area near us.
They were having a horse having a bit of a
horse show.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
A horse show.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah, it seems like a expensive hobby.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
It is an expensive hobby, right.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
If you treat the horse right, you know what I mean,
you know, just if you do all the things for
the horse and keep it up nice and do all
the things it needs. And then you got the trailer
and now you got to get a truck to build
a trailer.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Relatives with horses, and it can be expensive, like you
have to run a pasture if you don't have one. Yeah,
the feed.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
The veterinary care, they're pretty expensive.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, large animal veterinarian care like for horses and cows,
and that's really really expensive.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Well yeah, I guess it sense because that charged me
an arm and a leg and take a nine pound
dog to the vet. So I can only imagine if
I bring one thousand pound of oars. They're charging by
the kilogram.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Let's talk about the Three Chimneys Inn, which is in Durham.
One of the most haunted places in New Hampshire is
the Three Chimneys Inn, which is located, as I mentioned,
in Durham, New Hampshire. This historic end dates back to
sixteen forty nine.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Wow, I would love to stay in an inn with
that kind of rich history.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Well, I mean, you see, you know, I've been around places,
in places we've lived for a while. In a house
that was built in nineteen oh five, and just even
being that old, or being in a house that was
constructed or chapel or something schoolhouse that was built in
the eighteen hundreds, it really has an energy, right The
building has like just like you can just feel it
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when you're standing in there, even when it's all silent.
So I can only imagine something from the six to
early sixteen hundreds. I mean, my gosh.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah. When I was in photos school, I did like
a project at the Old Stone House which is in Georgetown, Washington,
d C. And it's like one of the oldest houses
in the nation, might be the oldest, And it's now
like federal like a federal park. They have a park
ranger there at the house and you can go do
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a little tour. It's very cool. But that house is amazing.
You can actually see the beams and the ceiling where
they used like handsaws to cut the beams.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Oh okay, I can still see.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
The wood has the markings. It's rough.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
It's the tool mark from.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
The interesting, very cool, very cool spot. So if you
ever go to DC and you want to see something interesting,
that's maybe a little destination out of the way. I mean,
of course everyone goes to the mall to see the
monument in the Smithsonian.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
And shop at foot locker. Yeah, yeah, the Federal foot locker.
They have a foot locker there.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
You your joke is not it's not reaching me today, Dylan,
You're you're hilarious.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
I would actually be sad. I thought there was a
foot locker there.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Your goofy.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Now, is that where the big pointy thing in the park?
I see. I don't even know my Washington destinations that well.
I know of the Obulusk. Is that right on the
monolith or whatever, the big tall statue you.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Mean the Washington Monument?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah, that thing. Yeah, And then there's the Lincoln Lincoln Memorial. Yes,
I think they have some museums around the Smithsonian and.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Such that they do.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
The Holocaust Museum.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Oh, isn't there a natural history museum.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
That's part of the Smithsonian.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Isn't that cool museums?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah, I'd like to go through the Smithsonian.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Well, I'm saying if you're looking for something that's maybe
not super Touristan is a little bit out of the
way if you plan to go shopping in Georgetown or
have lunch over there or something. The Old Stone House
is really cool.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
It sounds awesome.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yeah, I mean I thought it was a really neat
experience going into such an old home. Moving along, Dylan,
So we have this hotel, this inn built in sixteen
forty nine, and you know it's going to have a
long history of ghostly sightings and paranormal activity. Guests have
reported seeing apparitions, hearing mysterious footsteps, and cold drafts throughout
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the building. One of the most famous ghosts that is
believed to haunt the d is that of Hannah, a
former owner's daughter who died tragically in the building. Her
spirit is said to still roam the halls and even
play pranks on guests. The End also offers ghost tours
and has been featured on various paranormal TV shows.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Wow. Well, I'm sure this is probably a very famous place,
being so old, but I mean these types of experiences,
if I had those, I would be very I would
be disturbed, honestly.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
And like a spooky old in Well.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Yeah, anytime you hear stuff like footsteps or moving around
and the floor above you, which I've actually experienced, or
you know, it could be the house settling or all that,
if the house was wearing boots and walking across the
old plank floor. I mean, it's just you know, some
of sometimes that stuff's kind of hard to explain away,
you know a little bit.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, you know, we talk about these things and then
it just makes me want to go take like the
world's biggest spookiest road trip. Yeah, I know, to go
visit all these spots and spend the night. Now, Dylan,
we have a spooky graveyard. As if graveyards aren't already
a little unsettling for some people.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Well, I think all graveyards have energy, certainly some more
so than the others. And I certainly think the older
the graveyard, the kind of spookier it is. You know,
we've been through some pretty cool ones in our time together.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
This cemetery is located in Conway, which has been described
as a quaint town. Stark Road Graveyard is a very
small cemetery, but it holds a dark secret villan Oh
my gosh. The graveyard dates back to the early eighteen
hundreds and is said to be one of the most
haunted places in New Hampshire. Visitors have reported seeing an
eerie presence as soon as they enter the gates, and
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many claim to have seen apparitions wandering among the gravestones.
The most famous ghosts said to haunt the cemetery is
that of Able Blood.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
What a name, Well, that's an incredible name now.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
According to legend, Blood was a war hero who returned
to Conway and built a grand mansion near the graveyard,
but his happiness was short lived. He lost his fortune
and became consumed by grief. His spirit is believed to
roam the graveyard searching for peace. Visitors have reported hearing
his ghostly screams and moans, and seeing his apparition sitting
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on a b near his grave.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Wow, screams and moans, that's too much.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
It's a lot, it's a lot. It's creepy we have.
The Alton Town Hall in the town of Alton is
another location steeped in history. This nineteenth century building was
once used as a schoolhouse and later became the town hall. However,
it is said that the spirits of former students still
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roam the building.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
The spirits of former students.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah, they're mad when it was a school.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Mad because they got poor marks.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Visitors have reported hearing children's laughter and footsteps late at night,
even when there are no children present. Some have even
claimed to see the ghost of a young girl in
an old fashioned kind of outfit peering out from one
of the windows. Ooh. The town Hall has a creepy
basement that is said to be haunted by a former
janitor who died while working there. His spirit is believed
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to still reside in the basement, and many have reported
feeling his presence or seeing objects move on their own.
The Alton Town Hall is a popular spot for ghost hunters,
and there has been some eerie evidence captured of some
of the paranormal activity that goes on there. Wow, like
maybe EVPs and that kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Oh, I want a ghost to touch me.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
You we're silly.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yeah, well, no, I don't mean molest me. I mean
like all the shoulder or something.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Down touched by a ghosts.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah. Come, I can't prove it, but it happened.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
That just made me think of something that's kind of silly,
But maybe I won't talk about it. The Colonial Theater
in Laconia is a historic landmark that has become famous
for ghostly activity. Oh another theater, you know. I feel
like there are multiple stories in the US of haunted theaters,
haunted lighthouses, lighted ends, and hotels.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
I was actually just sitting over here thinking about how
eerie lighthouses are every time you go near one, and
I think part of it is they're setting. They're in
the ocean, typically on a jetty or a point, you know,
out extending out into the ocean, because they served a
functional purpose back in the day, warning ships of the
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coastline and all.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Is that what they did?
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, are you sure? Well?
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah, I thought they were just pretty you know.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Better here from the navy. You know the importance of
lighthouses beacons. But no, they were just so eerie. And
I think part of that heavy energy comes from just
the life of solitude and kind of I.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Was built to be like a lighthouse keeper.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Like the hardship and solitude that most keepers would endure
to keep up these very remote light houses, keep them
operational because they were very important. But yeah, it's it's
always just the creepiest place.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Can I find a job now as a lighthouse keeper?
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, I don't know. I'm sure they're operating some.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Of then let me bring rufus.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
But it's probably like a hard job to get right,
Like the dude, you know, it's like the old timer
at work.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
It is a popular job.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
That won't retire someone and so someone else can move
into that position.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
People be fighting each other over the job.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
He's already drawn. He's already retired, half retired and drawing
big fat solid security and all this shit, and he
still won't retire. You're like, dude, let somebody else do
the job. Damn go enjoy your life.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Hush, this sounds very personal.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Stop coming in.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Have you had a negative experience with a lighthouse keeper? Yes,
my goodness, I had no.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Idea that movie Cold Skin was about me. By life experience,
I had some.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Weird mermaid creatures started to attack you.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yeah, we had sex. But you know then that had
a little big headed baby.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
You know what, it would not surprise me. You probably
would have sex with a mermaid.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Well, honestly, it depends. It depends on if I really
love that mermaid or not. I don't have one. Not
stands with mermaids. Okay, I don't have one.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
You need to get to know the mermaids.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
I don't have one. Not stands with anyone.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
You want to discuss the mermaids hopes and dreams, get
to know the mermaid.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
A person could take me home for a one night stand,
but their rest of their evenings going to be full
of disappointment and me snoring.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
But you could probably like wash their dishes or something. Right, Yeah,
so you have something to offer.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
I can take you the trash out, walk your.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Dog, reach things on top of shelves.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Well, yeah, things are in my scope of reaching. You know,
I'm six foot even, it's not like I'm six y five.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Okay, all right, Well, if there's any mermaids out there listening,
Dylan is available for a disappointing one night stand. So
the Colonial Theater in Laconia historic landmark, well known for
its ghostly activity. This theater was built in the early
nineteen hundreds and has since hosted countless performances, movie screenings,
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even like vaudeville.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Acts back day, Vaudeville was such a big deal. Back
in the day, it was such a huge form of
entertainment which they.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Would bring back. I mean there are little groups around
that do Vaudeville shows.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
I've actually performed in like Asheville Vaudeville. I've performed in
a couple of their shows. And it is cool because
they bring together so many different like talented performance artists.
You might have a juggler or magicians.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Swallower or you could see anything. It's like a mixture.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Someone performing on like a Lira the Lira pop yeah,
aerial stuff.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Yeah, it was almost like a you're bringing together like
freak shows, comedians, musics, musicians, magicians. I mean just the
variety alone is such so interesting.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah. One of our favorite local Ashville celebrities is toy
Box the Witch. It does little puppet shows. Well, toy
Box does puppet shows right, and they're amazing, so talented.
If you're ever in Ashville and you see toy Box
performing like a vaudeville show, you gotta go check it out. Oh,
but I wish I would revive that, right, because it's
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so fun to see, you know, these very talented people.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah, in the modern day, I wonder what the talents
would be.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Well, like I said, they're like jugglers.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
No, I'm talking about in a twenty twenty five version though,
because people think they have new talents.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Now, well, I'm telling you what I've seen in the
twenty twenty version, twenty twenties version.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
People belive my opinions. My talent.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Making tiktoks is my talent. Let me show you how
I do that.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
That's right, I'm selling products on TikTok look at that
and getting commissions. Well.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Behind the beautiful facade of this theater is a dark
past that has given rise to rumors of hauntings. Many
employees and guests have reported strange occurrences, from unexplained noises
to objects being thrown or being moved around on their own.
One of the most frequent sightings are in the projection room,
where workers often hear footsteps and they feel like a
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dark presence or like a strange presence.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Oh my gosh, that's oh my gosh. No, I'm saying,
how would you react if you experience this.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I mean, seriously, it's a little creepy.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Would you be would you just be like remark to yourself,
Oh that was a little weird, or would you freak
the fuck out.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
In a theater?
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I don't know, probably be, Probably be a little afraid, Dylan.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Oh, I was gonna say, your rule of allowing everyone
around you to actually enjoy the show that they bought
a ticket to and not be screaming would out outweigh
your fear.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Okay, so let's move on to discuss some haunted places
in Maine. Okay, It's like I said, we're gonna work
our way down the coast. Maine State Prison. It's one
of those other places you hear a lot about haunted prisons.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Hey, I've been to a few, and there they're creepy places.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Back in eighteen twenty four, the main state prison in
Thomaston was set up. The punishments were revolved around hard labor,
either for life sentences or shorter periods of time. They
didn't they didn't discriminate if you were there, You're asked
it's going to do some hard work.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
So no matter how if you're there for a year,
or the rest of your life. You're getting treated the
same way.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Originally men and women were sentenced here, but later they
moved the women to a different prison. This place had
some bad luck with fires over the years, and they
had to rebuild it a couple of times. The prison
also included mental health wards. Over the years, guards and
prisoners reported sightings of strange things in the main State prison.
Guards say they felt someone watching them even though there
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was nobody there. Current prisoners reported sharing their cells with
spirits of prisoners from the past, and some of these
ghostly prisoners would show up at night. Oh my gosh, whew,
you'd be trapped in a cell with the ghost.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Oh, you can't go anywhere. I didn't even think about that.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Oh my gosh, somebody come get this ghost.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
That'd be terrible.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Who let the ghost out?
Speaker 1 (30:10):
You know, I think they should build prisons on the Moon.
I think that'd be cool.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Sounds like a bad sci fi movie.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Yeah, no Moon prison. Yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Could get you could get snake pluskin escape from New York.
It would be like escape from Moon Prison.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
People be jumping in like Rustles.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Old ass will be in it.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Jumping real high because they're on the Moon.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I say that, but Curltle's the man like defense would
have to be so tall on the Moon, Yeah, because
you know, low gravity, people can jump real high. So
you're gonna have to tether the prisoners to the prison
or not just be floating off.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Well, I guess you don't care if they float off
into deep space, right, because they're just prison I mean right, see.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I'm telling you this is the setup for a bad
sci fi movie, bad sci fi horror film.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Right.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
So you have the space prison, yeah, and you have
like the most dangerous criminals in the world there and
they just float off and guards are like, oh whatever.
But then the most evil prisoners float off and like
take over some sort of satellite.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Or space ship or an asteroid.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
And ride it to Earth destroy So yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
The guard's negligence actually led to their plan of escape.
They use that against the guards. To escape, they.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Hijack a some sort of spacecraft, yeah, or a rocket, yeah,
maybe one of Jeff.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Bezos the Dick rockets.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
They get a Dick rocket and they ride that Dick
rocket right into the world's orbit and like, you know,
they're here to do some fucked up shit. And then
you have to have some brave folks on Earth who
are going to pretend to battle the space prisoners.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
From the threatening fallis in the atmosphere. Yeah, okay, Like,
if you don't.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Somebody make that, that's a money that's a movie that'll
lose you some money. Halluji, millions of dollars.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Make that this summer.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Moon free skate from Moon Prison.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
They let the worst of the worst float away. Little
did they know there was a dick rocket out there.
Now it's heading straight toward Earth's face. Moon Prison.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
A motley crew of rascally Earth citizens. Yeah, have to
fight the evil space prisoners.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
I have lengthy criminal records. I mean, it's dude, what
would you do.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
I don't want to continue this conversation. That's what I'm
going to do. I'm going to get back to our
Haunted story here, Dylan. Our haunted places. Second on my
list here for Haunted Maine is Fort William Henry. This
fort was built in sixteen ninety two. It was an
English fort meant to protect the frontiers of the Massachusetts Colony,
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and it was quite impressive. It houses around twenty cannons
and sixty soldiers. Before where the English arrived, Native Americans
lived on this land, and there were these ongoing conflicts
between them and the colonists. Sadly, in sixteen ninety six,
they hung a Native American chief name Toco Lexus. I'm
doing my best to pronounce that near the fort, and
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according to local stories, his ghost is said to still
haunt this historic site. People who work or visit the
fort say they've seen a white glowing ball almost like
you know, big orb outside the interest enterant. I'm sorry,
and it moves between the rebuilt buildings and the spot
where they think this chief was hung.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Oh my god, that's weird or hanged.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
I guess you would say, yeah, hung.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Well, you know, forts were right, Forts were always on
the edge of violence, you know what I mean, because
there were often clashes between the people, various groups. They're
around the forts.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Well, yes, Dylan, I think that's the nature of forts. Well, yeah,
is that there are skirmishes and things kind of around
the fort.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
You're saying that's why the fort's there. Yeah, okay, typically,
well that sounds though.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
I'm no fort experts, right, I'm just gonna float it
out there. Mount Hope Cemetery again, we've got another haunted
cemetery established in eighteen thirty six, Mount Hope Cemetery in Bangor,
Maine has become the final resting place for over thirty
thousand individuals.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
This is a three hundred acre cemetery and it's actually
called a garden cemetery. It's the second garden cemetery in
the United States. It's a place for honoring loved ones
with mausoleums and lavish memorials. Mount Hope also had a
role in Stephen King's Pet Cemetery movie. Besides that, it's
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a burial site for numerous soldiers who served in American Wars.
Some people have seen strange shadows and felt a general
sense of unease in the cemetery. Others claimed to have
spotted ghostly figures and wandering amidst the memorials just before
the gates close for the night. People report feeling cold
spots or hearing footsteps like behind them, as if these
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ghosts are encouraging you to quickly exit out of their cemetery.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Yeah, get out of here, go on, get it. We
don't want you to hear living.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Go on, get you alive now, Dylan, we discussed lighthouses,
and I have one on our list. The Wood Island
Lighthouse in Seko Bay boast its shriff creepy stories. It
really got famous when ghost hunters did a paranormal investigation there.
But the whole thing started back in eighteen ninety six
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when a drifter shot the local sheriff after being confronted
for either not paying rent or causing some kind of trouble.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Oh gosh.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
He was devastated when he found out the sheriff had died,
so he went to the lighthouse keeper, who tried to
calm him down. The drifter could not be con sold
and ended his life in despair. People who visit Wood
Island Lighthouse have said they see shadows moving in the dark,
they hear gunshots in the air and watch a window
shade suddenly spin up, and witnesses have even watched locked
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doors just suddenly burst open.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Oh my gosh, you can't even lock the ghost out.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
No, it's coming for you. It's coming for you, Dylan.
What the ghost is coming for your ass? Get out
of here, your ghosts it's your ass, Dylan. Okay, So
we've got another lighthouse. This is Seguin Island Lighthouse. It
is supposedly one of the most haunted lighthouses in Maine,
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if not one of the most haunted spots.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Oh wow, supposedly, and Main's got a lot of them.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Back in the early eighteen hundreds, a lighthouse keeper's wife
brought a piano to the island. She thought this would
kind of help her, you know, fight off loneliness and boredom,
give her something to do. I'm sure it can be
very boring to live so isolated, especially when you are
not the person who's doing the work. You don't have
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the work to keep you busy.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Yeah, that would probably be worse. And like, you can
only read so many books, and it's not like you're
getting new books all the time. You know, you can't
just go to the local bookstore and buy more. So
what do you even do? Well?
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Sadly, this woman only knew how to play one song,
and she played it all the time, and it drew
her husband crazy. What song do you think it was?
Speaker 1 (37:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
It's like hello Hello.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Is that called Clementine?
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Yeah, I don't know. Eventually, during an argument about the piano,
he lost his temper and killed his wife with an axe.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Oh my god, And I ain't never.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Been mad over piano music and I want to kill somebody.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Well, you know, I think there's some psychology to the
fact that the same thing like that over and over
and over and over again could probably become irritable to you.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Then took his own life and the piano music live on.
Two hundred years after her death, people still report hearing
the song like notes from that tune that she would play.
That's creepy. Yeah to hear ghostly music. Visitors to the island,
fishermen and boaters passing by all say they've heard it.
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There are also stories about a ghostly little girl. And
then there are these unexplained sounds like coughs, bouncing balls,
and things moving around in the rooms when no one
is in them.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Yeah. So would you go stay overnight at this lighthouse?
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Be awesome.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Ship Harbor Nature Trail got a lot of rich history here.
In seventeen thirty nine, about two hundred people were stranded
when their ship crashed in Bar Harbor. Sadly, half of
them died and were buried in these unmarked graves there.
Others tried to find help. I'm sorry. The others try
to find help, but disappeared without a trace into the
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Main Wilderness. Somethink this area is cursed, while others believe
the strange things that happen here, like multiple shipwrecks, are
because of the restless spirits. In those unmarked graves. People
say they hear ghostly howling, maybe from those who passed
away in the freezing cold with no food.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Ghostly howling howling. Okay, yeah, got.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
A ghost dog the Old Narrow Gage trail. I just
like the name of that. So over the years, one
of the scariest spots on I guess in Main's history
is the old Narrow Gauge route. People say it's haunted
by a local person who vanished here along with his
bike and was never found. No one has ever been
charged with a crime, but many think someone knew this
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person and harmed them. Oh okay, So nowadays people claim
they see glowing orbs and ghosts and they hear a
scary scream telling them to leave.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Okay, and I would leave. Take that ghost advice.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
This travel is about a mile long and follows part
of a historic Kennebec Central Railroad path.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Well, yeah, that's the reference of a narrow gauge is
obviously the track size railroad, and they would do a
lot of smaller, you know, along logging routes and things
like that, would have these narrow gage kind of small
trains on them.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Can I tell you that the little bit of knowledge
I have of trains I learned from Thomas the Train.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Really yeah, oh so you're an expert.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
I'm not an expert, but I'm just saying the little
bit of info I have about trains and like train
terminology I learned I learned from years of watching the
same Thomas the Train movies repeatedly.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Right, yeah, And you know that that the gauge, the
width in essence of a track. A lot of the railroads,
it was quite different from one railroad to the next,
and that was one of the things holding back nations,
the nation from really taking full advantage of having a
rail system, because oftentimes, if you have a different rail size,
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you would have to pull your car your train at
the end of your line and then offload and then
loaded onto the other train that's on a different, you know,
different size track and then for it to continuous journey,
which obviously are very costly in time and effy.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
The history of our of the railroads being built in
the United States is so interesting. I listened to several
podcasts about the expansion of the railroad, how it was built,
the people behind it, the bureaucracy, like some shady deals.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
People stealing the funds, offshoring the money, and you know,
creating intentionally creating delays and things and dangerous work conditions.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Bringing in Chinese immigrants to do the walk of the labor.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Well, you have you had a mixture, you had he
did had Even once they got to Utah. You know,
the Mormon Church offered up, I think it was Bringham
Young actually offered up if they would bring the rail
through certain places in Utah. They they he would mobilize
Mormon labor. And they actually enjoyed the Mormon labor because
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they were very disciplined. They didn't drink, you know, get
drunk and show up at work hungover and things like that.
And they were actually really good laborers. Okay, yeah, good
to know because they were disciplined.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
And so you're saying, I should if I'm going to
build a railroad, I should hire some Chinese folks because
they're hard workers, and also some Mormons.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Yeah, if you want to go through Utah, If I.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Want to go through Utah, Okay, okay, good to know,
good to know, Dylan. But yeah, it's pretty interesting history.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
It's very interesting, all right, Dylan.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Well, that about wraps it up for some of the
most haunted places in New Hampshire and Maine. I'm skirt,
like I said, we're going to make our way down
the coast to discuss more haunted places ahead of Halloween.
It's my favorite.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
I love hearing scary stories and it always makes me, uh,
I always can't help but think how would I react
in that situation.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
I always think I want to buy ghost hunting equipment. Yeah,
Like when I hear these stories, I'm like, it would
be pretty fun to do ghost hunting. And when I've
met people who do it, they are really into it,
Like they seem like they really enjoy it and it's
so cool, you know, to get some of that equipment
and go around and see what you can find.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
No, it is really cool, and I think it's a
very subjective thing. But honestly, when you get into the
physical readings of like the environment and things like that,
some of that stuff's pretty hard to explain, right.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Like temperature, well, like a cold spot and yeah, a
cold spot where there's like thermal cameras they show you
like the hot and cold spot and things.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Yeah, I mean if you're in an environment, if you're
somewhere and it's just everything else, the entire structure or place,
you know, is the same, even if it's outdoors, and
then all of a sudden you you physically walk into
a cold spot that's you know, many degrees less than
the surrounding environment. It's very strange. I mean, I don't
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even know of a natural phenomenon that would explain that.
It's very odd.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
At some point, Dylan, I would like to cover Ed
and Lorraine Warren and like their history and some of
the hoaxes. There's a you know, there's a lot of
folks who claim like everything they did was a big hoax, right,
So I would like to do an episode on them sometime.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
They certainly made a lifelong career out of it, so.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
Possibly that'll be a future Mount Murders episode. That'd be
fun to discuss Ed and Lorraine Warren, maybe we can
discuss just like ghost hunting.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
And really general, you can have a multi part limited
series on mysticism and all the hoax back in the
day of spiritualism, Houdini's famous fight against you know, con
artist and hoaxed hoaxed spiritualist. He was very adamant about,
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you know, basically outing these phonies.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Well early on, I do believe we covered some stories
or cases on Patreon about some.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
Of these spiritual Oh yeah we did. It's been a
while ago, all right. So that is it for the
spooky day today, and I can't wait to continue our
travels down the East coast with you having crawling.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
Yes, I can't wait. Thank you for that, and thanks
for everyone that listens.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
If you have a spooky tale, we'll take. We just
like to hear from our listeners. Let's put together an
amazing listener story episode for Halloween. If you've got some
cool stories, email us Mountain Murders Podcast at gmail dot com.
We would love to hear your tales and we will
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make sure everybody the world knows about your spooky experience.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Yeah, we'd love to hear any tale, any spooky tales
you have. Hey, even if it was a scary prank
you did on somebody, that's a really fun story, go
ahead and drop it in there and we would love
to read them.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
Oh my gosh, scary pranks no.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Is that too much for you? Dude?
Speaker 2 (46:31):
I get I freak out whenever the biscuit can pops open. Okay, right, yeah,
so someone dressed in like a scary costume and like
laying in wait for me, Yeah, that would be I
would be scared. You're gonna hear me scream and probably run. Yeah, yeah,
mist definitely.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
You may stand and fight.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Your daughter used to do this thing where she would
crawl on her hand like backwards, like crab walk backwards
with her hair hanging in her face like the grudge girl. Yeah,
and that shit was creepy.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
She did a good grudge girl for sure.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
She would do it like across the living room.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Yeah, shout out to darkness, Shout out to Dela.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
That was scary, scared, freak me out, dude.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
All right, So until next time, stay jolly, stay creepy.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
Yeah yeah like that all right, Dylan, I'll see you later, Bud.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
Bye,
Hey, y'all, welcome back to Mountain Murderers. I'm Heather and
I'm dealing as always, and here we are on a
beautiful day.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
It's a Saturday, it's the weekend, and we thought, why
not drop a bonus episode for our amazing listeners out.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
There, because they are incredible.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Spooky season is a pawn us, Dylan, and I know
we're only in September, but it's never too early to
get a head start.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
It's true, you can always be spooky.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
You can always be spooky. So I thought we could
take some time to discuss the most haunted places. And
I've chosen Maine and New Hampshire today to discuss. Okay,
we're going to make our way down the East coast
over the next few weeks. Oh nice, heading into Halloween.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Oh, these are gonna be some great stories.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
All right. So you know what's interesting about the Granite
State New Hampshire, Dylan, is that it celebrated its four
hundredth birthday in tree. So with that much history, it
stands to reason that we would definitely have plenty of
ghost stories to go around, plenty of haunted places.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Right, Yeah, it's got to be full of old legends
and stuff of that nature. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
One of New Hampshire's famous hauntings is the oceanborn Mary
House in Hennecker.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
The ocean Born Mary House.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah. So, in seventeen twenty, a notorious pirate captain Okay,
I'm already, I already liked the story. We got a pirate,
Don Pedro, captured the ship Wolf off the shore of
Massachusetts when he spied a red haired baby. Okay, he
saw a little ginger that had been born just that
day on board. He promised to spare everyone's lives if
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the child was named after his mother, and so the
baby was named oceanborn Mary Wallace.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Barry grew up married and had children, and though she
was widowed at a very young eventually Captain Pedro tracked
Mary down and they ended up getting married and living
together in a mansion overlooking the town of Hennecker for
a number of years. One day, Mary found the body
of her murdered husband on the grounds of the house.
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Many suspected he was killed over pirate treasure. Mary buried
him under the huge hearthstone in the kitchen. She passed
away in eighteen fourteen at the age of ninety.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Four, so she lived a long, wide the full life.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Since then, the ghost of a tall, red haired woman
with glowing green eyes has appeared in the home. People
spot this apparition in an upstairs window and on the
main staircase of the home. Occupants of the house have
reported feeling Mary's ghostly presence, and some believe that she
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protects the house from harm.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Oh my gosh, Now that's quite a name she ended
up with.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Right, Well, it's just Mary Wallace.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
But well she's ocean born, right, House of the Water.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Mary's two story wood frame house is still a private residence.
Mary Wallace is buried in Center Cemetery behind the Hennecker
Town Hall.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
So this sounds like a very striking apparition, right, something
that would really stand out. The red hair, the glowing
green eyes.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Wow, yeah, oh kind of spooky.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah, it's kind of hot.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Glowing eyes.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah, freaks me out a little bit, are you sure?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah? It does? All right, Let's talk about the Nochland
Inn and Nancy Barton. A tombstone displayed in the parlor
of the inn reads seventeen seventy eight. Nancy Barton died
in a snowstorm in pursuit of her faithless lover. Nancy
was engaged, but her lover ran off with her dowry
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before the wedding could take place.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Wow, that's a big deal, scoundrel. Right.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Rather than just accept her fate and his treachery, she
soon set on a foot to find him, but was
caught up in the middle of this terrible like blizzard
like conditions. Friends found her body frozen next to a
brook that now bears her name.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Well, that's super sad.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, she stood up.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
He runs off with the dowry, which would actually means
now she might likely has no dowry to offer to
another suitor, which is very strange kind of system.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
But what a con man.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah, I know, he just takes it and runs.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
He's woos you and then takes the money and runs.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yes, the modern day of him giving him access to
your four oh one?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
K oh gosh does that happen?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
It's to love him and leave him con all right, Yeah,
love him.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
And leave him. The Omni Mount Washington Resort. This resort
was built in nineteen oh two by Joseph Stickney. The
hotel has garnered a name for itself because it has
one guess Dylan that never quite checks out. You want
to hear the legend? Yes Stickney's wife, Carolyn Foster Stickney,
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she was nicknamed the Princess or Princess Carolyn by hotel staff,
was left widowed after his death, eventually remarried a French
French royal prince named Jean Baptiste Marie de Fogini Lucinge.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Oh say that three times fast.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Since her death in nineteen thirty six, guests and snaff
report sightings a princess wandering the hallways of the third floor,
and she even walks down the stairs because she's she's hungry,
so she's looking for some food. So she comes down
like a sup of time.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
So this is not the aloof ghost that you kind
of catch a glimpse of. This one's just coming down
and making a snap.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
She's like my meat loaf. Now.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, yeah, it's a hungry.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Ghost, a hungry ghost. You know what, if I die
and come back as a ghost, I think I'll probably
end up being a hungry ghost. I'll be the ghost
that haunts the kitchen. Yeah, totally rummaging around on the
cap and that's looking for snacks.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
People will be like every time I go in there
for a midnight snack. I see her. Woo o, where's
the geese?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
You better hide the Little Debbie Pumpkin Delights?
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Now, can we talk about how it sided you were?
We just like, are trying to do the clean eating.
We have a bunch of healthy stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Doing meal prep.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
We're doing little minor meal prep. Yeah, but it's kind
of cool to have stuff already ready. It has its
pros and cons, especially during the work days and such.
But Heather was like, I have one one treat that
I had to have, and I was like, oh, yeah,
what is it? She pulls out of the cabinet a
box of the Little Debbie.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Is the only treat I bought at the store?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Is it the pup? What is it?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
The Pumpkin Delight?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Pumpkin Delights?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I wait all year for pumpkin Delights. Okay, I have
loved those things since I can remember.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
And they're a limited edition. It's a very short run, right,
we just say maybe a month and a half, two months.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, you probably get a good two months out of
the Pumpkin Delights.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
And I have to say I stole one of your
pumpkin Delight's.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Delicious, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
It was freaking amazing. It was so good, and it
really made me want a cup of coffee.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I don't even like Little Debbies anymore. I feel like
they've lost like the original taste and now they I
don't know, they just they don't taste as yummy as
they did when I was six years old.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
We always wondered did our palette grow up and change
or has the.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Snacks recipes have just changed so much?
Speaker 1 (07:26):
And I'm pretty certain that's a little bit of both.
But I think certainly the things just have different ingredients, cheaper,
more chemically, and a lot of the Little Debbie cakes
don't have that same taste from your youth.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
They don't. But the pumpkin delights always deliver. And if
I eat enough of those, you'll be calling.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Me big Debbie.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I'll be big deb Big deb because I eat like
a box of those.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
And like one sitting Oh God.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I can totally pick out. If you wouldn't judge.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Me, I know I would, I would just watch you
eat them.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
They're so good. And Judge I said that enough, they're
so good.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
She loves them.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah, all right, Dylan, let's move along. Here. We have
some more spooky stories. Hampton Beach. We've got the Island
Path road, and I'm going to tell you about the
Goodie Coal story. Goody was quite a nickname back in
the sixteen hundreds. Goody Goody had like Goodie Proctor from
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the witch trials.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Right.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I guess that was like, you know, if I called
you sweethearter honey, maybe kind of the equivalent of that.
I don't know. Accused of witchcraft in sixteen fifty six
and again in sixteen seventy one, Eunice Goodie Cole, who
lived at the end of Island Path, eventually died of
natural causes in sixteen eighty, after she had endured years
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of persecution and hatred damn from her community.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Well, that's just a terrible way to live.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
According to legend, she was buried by vine Full townspeople
with a steak through her heart. Another legend says that
kinder neighbors eventually properly buried her near today's meeting house screen.
But today the area all along the Island Path is
said to be haunted. There have been reports of moving objects, lights,
and a figure that appears in the fog.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
You reckon that was a bone in rivi they put
through a heart. Yeah maybe, Okay, was that your top
choice for what a stake through my heart?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Uh yeah, likely? I like the bone in river.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
All right, now, Dylan, we have a haunted horse, a
ghostly horse.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Now I feel like we don't have a We should
have more haunted animal stories, right, yeah, like a little
scary thing, don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Well, we have heard about some like haunted like dog
like apparitions.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Early years, basically like the hounds of hell.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
And I have heard people describe, you know, in certain places,
hearing like who you know, the sounds of hoofs.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Oh really around?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, am I am? I correct? And remembering that there
is actually a cryptid case of a black dog.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Well, I think the black dog is kind of a
common thing okay that people see.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
All right, I've seen a I've seen an animalistic shadow figure.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
We've both seen it. Yeah, at different times. Yeah, No,
that's true, true story.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I mean it could be. You can be a skeptic.
I'm a half skeptic, half believer in a lot of
things in my own mind, and you can say it
was the lights, the lighting and all that, and it
could have been you know, it could have been your
eyes mind playing a trick on you. But I mean,
you know, I still know what I experienced.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I know what I saw. Yeah, And then together we
were discussing it and we were like, wow, so we've
seen the same thing.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Well, I was describing to you, and you basically to
finished my description for me, and I was just like, okay,
so we've both had the seen the same as that
trick of lights or any of that.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I'd love to run up and down the road. Yeah,
certain road. I don't know. I mean, I guess it's
possible that there could be ghostly spirit animals, dogs, Yeah, yeah,
running around.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
They take it like a ghostly Pooh by the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
You know, if Rufus was a ghost, he's just gonna
beg for snacks too.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah, I know right, he would haunt the kitchen.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
We're turning into each other, me and Rufus. We both
love snacks and naps.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I'd be like that movie Bitch, where do a woman
turns into like a or at starts ounting like dogs
or something.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I don't know, Oh night, bitch, not bitch, that's it.
I haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
I haven't either. I mean the premise, I'm just like,
ah whatever. But now I kind of want to watch it.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Perhaps New Hampshire's only horse haunting. Now this is interesting.
This horse salt shelter in an abandoned building or a blizzard,
became trapped and is still trying to escape even in death.
And this is at Toll Hills, at Toll Hills, and
the horse's name was Epsoms. I guess people hear this
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horse trying to get out of a building, and they
hear ghostly horse noises and sounds and see ghostly horse
running around.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Horses are scary. I mean they scare me.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
The horses giving people high fives.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
I know a lot of people, some of our listeners
may have horses loving to death. There seems to be
a really strong bond between horse and horse owner. It's
like they really love the horse a whole lot. But
they're just such a big animal, and I guess I've
never been around them in the right way or I
don't know that's got that big mouth. And I'm always
afraid they might kick me, because when I see videos
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of people getting kicked, I'm like, oh my god, oh
my god, you're fucking that herb bro, like you should
be dead.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Well, I think I've discussed this before and on the pod.
But my uncle had some horses when I was a kid,
and I remember riding the horses and he had one
that was like older and more timid or like tame,
gentle horse, right, But then he had this one horse
that was like a maniac. Like this horse was wild
and I don't know if he should have had this
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horse because it was really I mean, it was wild.
And I remember as a kid being like, oh my gosh,
that horse is so mean because it would bite him, yeah,
and like kick, and I was really that kind of
made me afraid of horses because I felt like it
was a mean horse.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
He was around an ornery horse.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
An ornery horse, yeah, just matched all the other ornery
people in my life at the time. But yeah, horses
are so big and powerful, right, you know, I find
them a bit intimidating. But they are beautiful creatures.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Oh they're majestic.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
They're so pretty.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
It's really like nature. The power of nature like flows
through them. Right when you're watching a horse gallop or
you see them out in the fields. I'm out playing
with each other, and I don't know, They're just like
a majestic animal.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
And I do enjoy watching equestrian events, like I've never
been to one in person, which would be really cool.
We do have an equestrian center not too far away,
so maybe we should check something like that out.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Yeah, there was actually we were.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Out just watching that on TV or you see clips
on the internet, and we.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Were not long ago in the National Park area near us.
They were having a horse having a bit of a
horse show.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
A horse show.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah, it seems like a expensive hobby.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
It is an expensive hobby, right.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
If you treat the horse right, you know what I mean,
you know, just if you do all the things for
the horse and keep it up nice and do all
the things it needs. And then you got the trailer
and now you got to get a truck to build
a trailer.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Relatives with horses, and it can be expensive, like you
have to run a pasture if you don't have one. Yeah,
the feed.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
The veterinary care, they're pretty expensive.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, large animal veterinarian care like for horses and cows,
and that's really really expensive.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Well yeah, I guess it sense because that charged me
an arm and a leg and take a nine pound
dog to the vet. So I can only imagine if
I bring one thousand pound of oars. They're charging by
the kilogram.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Let's talk about the Three Chimneys Inn, which is in Durham.
One of the most haunted places in New Hampshire is
the Three Chimneys Inn, which is located, as I mentioned,
in Durham, New Hampshire. This historic end dates back to
sixteen forty nine.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Wow, I would love to stay in an inn with
that kind of rich history.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Well, I mean, you see, you know, I've been around places,
in places we've lived for a while. In a house
that was built in nineteen oh five, and just even
being that old, or being in a house that was
constructed or chapel or something schoolhouse that was built in
the eighteen hundreds, it really has an energy, right The
building has like just like you can just feel it
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when you're standing in there, even when it's all silent.
So I can only imagine something from the six to
early sixteen hundreds. I mean, my gosh.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah. When I was in photos school, I did like
a project at the Old Stone House which is in Georgetown, Washington,
d C. And it's like one of the oldest houses
in the nation, might be the oldest, And it's now
like federal like a federal park. They have a park
ranger there at the house and you can go do
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a little tour. It's very cool. But that house is amazing.
You can actually see the beams and the ceiling where
they used like handsaws to cut the beams.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Oh okay, I can still see.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
The wood has the markings. It's rough.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
It's the tool mark from.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
The interesting, very cool, very cool spot. So if you
ever go to DC and you want to see something interesting,
that's maybe a little destination out of the way. I mean,
of course everyone goes to the mall to see the
monument in the Smithsonian.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
And shop at foot locker. Yeah, yeah, the Federal foot locker.
They have a foot locker there.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
You your joke is not it's not reaching me today, Dylan,
You're you're hilarious.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
I would actually be sad. I thought there was a
foot locker there.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Your goofy.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Now, is that where the big pointy thing in the park?
I see. I don't even know my Washington destinations that well.
I know of the Obulusk. Is that right on the
monolith or whatever, the big tall statue you.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Mean the Washington Monument?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah, that thing. Yeah, And then there's the Lincoln Lincoln Memorial. Yes,
I think they have some museums around the Smithsonian and.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Such that they do.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
The Holocaust Museum.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Oh, isn't there a natural history museum.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
That's part of the Smithsonian.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Isn't that cool museums?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah, I'd like to go through the Smithsonian.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Well, I'm saying if you're looking for something that's maybe
not super Touristan is a little bit out of the
way if you plan to go shopping in Georgetown or
have lunch over there or something. The Old Stone House
is really cool.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
It sounds awesome.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yeah, I mean I thought it was a really neat
experience going into such an old home. Moving along, Dylan,
So we have this hotel, this inn built in sixteen
forty nine, and you know it's going to have a
long history of ghostly sightings and paranormal activity. Guests have
reported seeing apparitions, hearing mysterious footsteps, and cold drafts throughout
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the building. One of the most famous ghosts that is
believed to haunt the d is that of Hannah, a
former owner's daughter who died tragically in the building. Her
spirit is said to still roam the halls and even
play pranks on guests. The End also offers ghost tours
and has been featured on various paranormal TV shows.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Wow. Well, I'm sure this is probably a very famous place,
being so old, but I mean these types of experiences,
if I had those, I would be very I would
be disturbed, honestly.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
And like a spooky old in Well.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Yeah, anytime you hear stuff like footsteps or moving around
and the floor above you, which I've actually experienced, or
you know, it could be the house settling or all that,
if the house was wearing boots and walking across the
old plank floor. I mean, it's just you know, some
of sometimes that stuff's kind of hard to explain away,
you know a little bit.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, you know, we talk about these things and then
it just makes me want to go take like the
world's biggest spookiest road trip. Yeah, I know, to go
visit all these spots and spend the night. Now, Dylan,
we have a spooky graveyard. As if graveyards aren't already
a little unsettling for some people.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Well, I think all graveyards have energy, certainly some more
so than the others. And I certainly think the older
the graveyard, the kind of spookier it is. You know,
we've been through some pretty cool ones in our time together.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
This cemetery is located in Conway, which has been described
as a quaint town. Stark Road Graveyard is a very
small cemetery, but it holds a dark secret villan Oh
my gosh. The graveyard dates back to the early eighteen
hundreds and is said to be one of the most
haunted places in New Hampshire. Visitors have reported seeing an
eerie presence as soon as they enter the gates, and
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many claim to have seen apparitions wandering among the gravestones.
The most famous ghosts said to haunt the cemetery is
that of Able Blood.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
What a name, Well, that's an incredible name now.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
According to legend, Blood was a war hero who returned
to Conway and built a grand mansion near the graveyard,
but his happiness was short lived. He lost his fortune
and became consumed by grief. His spirit is believed to
roam the graveyard searching for peace. Visitors have reported hearing
his ghostly screams and moans, and seeing his apparition sitting
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on a b near his grave.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Wow, screams and moans, that's too much.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
It's a lot, it's a lot. It's creepy we have.
The Alton Town Hall in the town of Alton is
another location steeped in history. This nineteenth century building was
once used as a schoolhouse and later became the town hall. However,
it is said that the spirits of former students still
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roam the building.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
The spirits of former students.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah, they're mad when it was a school.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Mad because they got poor marks.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Visitors have reported hearing children's laughter and footsteps late at night,
even when there are no children present. Some have even
claimed to see the ghost of a young girl in
an old fashioned kind of outfit peering out from one
of the windows. Ooh. The town Hall has a creepy
basement that is said to be haunted by a former
janitor who died while working there. His spirit is believed
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to still reside in the basement, and many have reported
feeling his presence or seeing objects move on their own.
The Alton Town Hall is a popular spot for ghost hunters,
and there has been some eerie evidence captured of some
of the paranormal activity that goes on there. Wow, like
maybe EVPs and that kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Oh, I want a ghost to touch me.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
You we're silly.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yeah, well, no, I don't mean molest me. I mean
like all the shoulder or something.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Down touched by a ghosts.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah. Come, I can't prove it, but it happened.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
That just made me think of something that's kind of silly,
But maybe I won't talk about it. The Colonial Theater
in Laconia is a historic landmark that has become famous
for ghostly activity. Oh another theater, you know. I feel
like there are multiple stories in the US of haunted theaters,
haunted lighthouses, lighted ends, and hotels.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
I was actually just sitting over here thinking about how
eerie lighthouses are every time you go near one, and
I think part of it is they're setting. They're in
the ocean, typically on a jetty or a point, you know,
out extending out into the ocean, because they served a
functional purpose back in the day, warning ships of the
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coastline and all.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Is that what they did?
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, are you sure? Well?
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah, I thought they were just pretty you know.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Better here from the navy. You know the importance of
lighthouses beacons. But no, they were just so eerie. And
I think part of that heavy energy comes from just
the life of solitude and kind of I.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Was built to be like a lighthouse keeper.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Like the hardship and solitude that most keepers would endure
to keep up these very remote light houses, keep them
operational because they were very important. But yeah, it's it's
always just the creepiest place.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Can I find a job now as a lighthouse keeper?
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, I don't know. I'm sure they're operating some.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Of then let me bring rufus.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
But it's probably like a hard job to get right,
Like the dude, you know, it's like the old timer
at work.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
It is a popular job.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
That won't retire someone and so someone else can move
into that position.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
People be fighting each other over the job.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
He's already drawn. He's already retired, half retired and drawing
big fat solid security and all this shit, and he
still won't retire. You're like, dude, let somebody else do
the job. Damn go enjoy your life.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Hush, this sounds very personal.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Stop coming in.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Have you had a negative experience with a lighthouse keeper? Yes,
my goodness, I had no.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Idea that movie Cold Skin was about me. By life experience,
I had some.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Weird mermaid creatures started to attack you.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yeah, we had sex. But you know then that had
a little big headed baby.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
You know what, it would not surprise me. You probably
would have sex with a mermaid.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Well, honestly, it depends. It depends on if I really
love that mermaid or not. I don't have one. Not
stands with mermaids. Okay, I don't have one.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
You need to get to know the mermaids.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
I don't have one. Not stands with anyone.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
You want to discuss the mermaids hopes and dreams, get
to know the mermaid.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
A person could take me home for a one night stand,
but their rest of their evenings going to be full
of disappointment and me snoring.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
But you could probably like wash their dishes or something. Right, Yeah,
so you have something to offer.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
I can take you the trash out, walk your.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Dog, reach things on top of shelves.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Well, yeah, things are in my scope of reaching. You know,
I'm six foot even, it's not like I'm six y five.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Okay, all right, Well, if there's any mermaids out there listening,
Dylan is available for a disappointing one night stand. So
the Colonial Theater in Laconia historic landmark, well known for
its ghostly activity. This theater was built in the early
nineteen hundreds and has since hosted countless performances, movie screenings,
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even like vaudeville.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Acts back day, Vaudeville was such a big deal. Back
in the day, it was such a huge form of
entertainment which they.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Would bring back. I mean there are little groups around
that do Vaudeville shows.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
I've actually performed in like Asheville Vaudeville. I've performed in
a couple of their shows. And it is cool because
they bring together so many different like talented performance artists.
You might have a juggler or magicians.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Swallower or you could see anything. It's like a mixture.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Someone performing on like a Lira the Lira pop yeah,
aerial stuff.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Yeah, it was almost like a you're bringing together like
freak shows, comedians, musics, musicians, magicians. I mean just the
variety alone is such so interesting.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah. One of our favorite local Ashville celebrities is toy
Box the Witch. It does little puppet shows. Well, toy
Box does puppet shows right, and they're amazing, so talented.
If you're ever in Ashville and you see toy Box
performing like a vaudeville show, you gotta go check it out. Oh,
but I wish I would revive that, right, because it's
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so fun to see, you know, these very talented people.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah, in the modern day, I wonder what the talents
would be.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Well, like I said, they're like jugglers.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
No, I'm talking about in a twenty twenty five version though,
because people think they have new talents.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Now, well, I'm telling you what I've seen in the
twenty twenty version, twenty twenties version.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
People belive my opinions. My talent.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Making tiktoks is my talent. Let me show you how
I do that.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
That's right, I'm selling products on TikTok look at that
and getting commissions. Well.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Behind the beautiful facade of this theater is a dark
past that has given rise to rumors of hauntings. Many
employees and guests have reported strange occurrences, from unexplained noises
to objects being thrown or being moved around on their own.
One of the most frequent sightings are in the projection room,
where workers often hear footsteps and they feel like a
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dark presence or like a strange presence.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Oh my gosh, that's oh my gosh. No, I'm saying,
how would you react if you experience this.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I mean, seriously, it's a little creepy.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Would you be would you just be like remark to yourself,
Oh that was a little weird, or would you freak
the fuck out.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
In a theater?
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I don't know, probably be, Probably be a little afraid, Dylan.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Oh, I was gonna say, your rule of allowing everyone
around you to actually enjoy the show that they bought
a ticket to and not be screaming would out outweigh
your fear.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Okay, so let's move on to discuss some haunted places
in Maine. Okay, It's like I said, we're gonna work
our way down the coast. Maine State Prison. It's one
of those other places you hear a lot about haunted prisons.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Hey, I've been to a few, and there they're creepy places.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Back in eighteen twenty four, the main state prison in
Thomaston was set up. The punishments were revolved around hard labor,
either for life sentences or shorter periods of time. They
didn't they didn't discriminate if you were there, You're asked
it's going to do some hard work.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
So no matter how if you're there for a year,
or the rest of your life. You're getting treated the
same way.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Originally men and women were sentenced here, but later they
moved the women to a different prison. This place had
some bad luck with fires over the years, and they
had to rebuild it a couple of times. The prison
also included mental health wards. Over the years, guards and
prisoners reported sightings of strange things in the main State prison.
Guards say they felt someone watching them even though there
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was nobody there. Current prisoners reported sharing their cells with
spirits of prisoners from the past, and some of these
ghostly prisoners would show up at night. Oh my gosh, whew,
you'd be trapped in a cell with the ghost.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Oh, you can't go anywhere. I didn't even think about that.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Oh my gosh, somebody come get this ghost.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
That'd be terrible.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Who let the ghost out?
Speaker 1 (30:10):
You know, I think they should build prisons on the Moon.
I think that'd be cool.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Sounds like a bad sci fi movie.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Yeah, no Moon prison. Yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Could get you could get snake pluskin escape from New York.
It would be like escape from Moon Prison.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
People be jumping in like Rustles.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Old ass will be in it.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Jumping real high because they're on the Moon.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I say that, but Curltle's the man like defense would
have to be so tall on the Moon, Yeah, because
you know, low gravity, people can jump real high. So
you're gonna have to tether the prisoners to the prison
or not just be floating off.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Well, I guess you don't care if they float off
into deep space, right, because they're just prison I mean right, see.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I'm telling you this is the setup for a bad
sci fi movie, bad sci fi horror film.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Right.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
So you have the space prison, yeah, and you have
like the most dangerous criminals in the world there and
they just float off and guards are like, oh whatever.
But then the most evil prisoners float off and like
take over some sort of satellite.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Or space ship or an asteroid.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
And ride it to Earth destroy So yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
The guard's negligence actually led to their plan of escape.
They use that against the guards. To escape, they.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Hijack a some sort of spacecraft, yeah, or a rocket, yeah,
maybe one of Jeff.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Bezos the Dick rockets.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
They get a Dick rocket and they ride that Dick
rocket right into the world's orbit and like, you know,
they're here to do some fucked up shit. And then
you have to have some brave folks on Earth who
are going to pretend to battle the space prisoners.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
From the threatening fallis in the atmosphere. Yeah, okay, Like,
if you don't.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Somebody make that, that's a money that's a movie that'll
lose you some money. Halluji, millions of dollars.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Make that this summer.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Moon free skate from Moon Prison.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
They let the worst of the worst float away. Little
did they know there was a dick rocket out there.
Now it's heading straight toward Earth's face. Moon Prison.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
A motley crew of rascally Earth citizens. Yeah, have to
fight the evil space prisoners.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
I have lengthy criminal records. I mean, it's dude, what
would you do.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
I don't want to continue this conversation. That's what I'm
going to do. I'm going to get back to our
Haunted story here, Dylan. Our haunted places. Second on my
list here for Haunted Maine is Fort William Henry. This
fort was built in sixteen ninety two. It was an
English fort meant to protect the frontiers of the Massachusetts Colony,
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and it was quite impressive. It houses around twenty cannons
and sixty soldiers. Before where the English arrived, Native Americans
lived on this land, and there were these ongoing conflicts
between them and the colonists. Sadly, in sixteen ninety six,
they hung a Native American chief name Toco Lexus. I'm
doing my best to pronounce that near the fort, and
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according to local stories, his ghost is said to still
haunt this historic site. People who work or visit the
fort say they've seen a white glowing ball almost like
you know, big orb outside the interest enterant. I'm sorry,
and it moves between the rebuilt buildings and the spot
where they think this chief was hung.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Oh my god, that's weird or hanged.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
I guess you would say, yeah, hung.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Well, you know, forts were right, Forts were always on
the edge of violence, you know what I mean, because
there were often clashes between the people, various groups. They're
around the forts.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Well, yes, Dylan, I think that's the nature of forts. Well, yeah,
is that there are skirmishes and things kind of around
the fort.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
You're saying that's why the fort's there. Yeah, okay, typically,
well that sounds though.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
I'm no fort experts, right, I'm just gonna float it
out there. Mount Hope Cemetery again, we've got another haunted
cemetery established in eighteen thirty six, Mount Hope Cemetery in Bangor,
Maine has become the final resting place for over thirty
thousand individuals.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
This is a three hundred acre cemetery and it's actually
called a garden cemetery. It's the second garden cemetery in
the United States. It's a place for honoring loved ones
with mausoleums and lavish memorials. Mount Hope also had a
role in Stephen King's Pet Cemetery movie. Besides that, it's
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a burial site for numerous soldiers who served in American Wars.
Some people have seen strange shadows and felt a general
sense of unease in the cemetery. Others claimed to have
spotted ghostly figures and wandering amidst the memorials just before
the gates close for the night. People report feeling cold
spots or hearing footsteps like behind them, as if these
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ghosts are encouraging you to quickly exit out of their cemetery.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Yeah, get out of here, go on, get it. We
don't want you to hear living.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Go on, get you alive now, Dylan, we discussed lighthouses,
and I have one on our list. The Wood Island
Lighthouse in Seko Bay boast its shriff creepy stories. It
really got famous when ghost hunters did a paranormal investigation there.
But the whole thing started back in eighteen ninety six
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when a drifter shot the local sheriff after being confronted
for either not paying rent or causing some kind of trouble.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Oh gosh.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
He was devastated when he found out the sheriff had died,
so he went to the lighthouse keeper, who tried to
calm him down. The drifter could not be con sold
and ended his life in despair. People who visit Wood
Island Lighthouse have said they see shadows moving in the dark,
they hear gunshots in the air and watch a window
shade suddenly spin up, and witnesses have even watched locked
(36:15):
doors just suddenly burst open.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Oh my gosh, you can't even lock the ghost out.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
No, it's coming for you. It's coming for you, Dylan.
What the ghost is coming for your ass? Get out
of here, your ghosts it's your ass, Dylan. Okay, So
we've got another lighthouse. This is Seguin Island Lighthouse. It
is supposedly one of the most haunted lighthouses in Maine,
(36:42):
if not one of the most haunted spots.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Oh wow, supposedly, and Main's got a lot of them.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Back in the early eighteen hundreds, a lighthouse keeper's wife
brought a piano to the island. She thought this would
kind of help her, you know, fight off loneliness and boredom,
give her something to do. I'm sure it can be
very boring to live so isolated, especially when you are
not the person who's doing the work. You don't have
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the work to keep you busy.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Yeah, that would probably be worse. And like, you can
only read so many books, and it's not like you're
getting new books all the time. You know, you can't
just go to the local bookstore and buy more. So
what do you even do? Well?
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Sadly, this woman only knew how to play one song,
and she played it all the time, and it drew
her husband crazy. What song do you think it was?
Speaker 1 (37:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
It's like hello Hello.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Is that called Clementine?
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Yeah, I don't know. Eventually, during an argument about the piano,
he lost his temper and killed his wife with an axe.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Oh my god, And I ain't never.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Been mad over piano music and I want to kill somebody.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Well, you know, I think there's some psychology to the
fact that the same thing like that over and over
and over and over again could probably become irritable to you.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Then took his own life and the piano music live on.
Two hundred years after her death, people still report hearing
the song like notes from that tune that she would play.
That's creepy. Yeah to hear ghostly music. Visitors to the island,
fishermen and boaters passing by all say they've heard it.
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There are also stories about a ghostly little girl. And
then there are these unexplained sounds like coughs, bouncing balls,
and things moving around in the rooms when no one
is in them.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Yeah. So would you go stay overnight at this lighthouse?
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Be awesome.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Ship Harbor Nature Trail got a lot of rich history here.
In seventeen thirty nine, about two hundred people were stranded
when their ship crashed in Bar Harbor. Sadly, half of
them died and were buried in these unmarked graves there.
Others tried to find help. I'm sorry. The others try
to find help, but disappeared without a trace into the
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Main Wilderness. Somethink this area is cursed, while others believe
the strange things that happen here, like multiple shipwrecks, are
because of the restless spirits. In those unmarked graves. People
say they hear ghostly howling, maybe from those who passed
away in the freezing cold with no food.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Ghostly howling howling. Okay, yeah, got.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
A ghost dog the Old Narrow Gage trail. I just
like the name of that. So over the years, one
of the scariest spots on I guess in Main's history
is the old Narrow Gauge route. People say it's haunted
by a local person who vanished here along with his
bike and was never found. No one has ever been
charged with a crime, but many think someone knew this
(39:49):
person and harmed them. Oh okay, So nowadays people claim
they see glowing orbs and ghosts and they hear a
scary scream telling them to leave.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Okay, and I would leave. Take that ghost advice.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
This travel is about a mile long and follows part
of a historic Kennebec Central Railroad path.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Well, yeah, that's the reference of a narrow gauge is
obviously the track size railroad, and they would do a
lot of smaller, you know, along logging routes and things
like that, would have these narrow gage kind of small
trains on them.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Can I tell you that the little bit of knowledge
I have of trains I learned from Thomas the Train.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Really yeah, oh so you're an expert.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
I'm not an expert, but I'm just saying the little
bit of info I have about trains and like train
terminology I learned I learned from years of watching the
same Thomas the Train movies repeatedly.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Right, yeah, And you know that that the gauge, the
width in essence of a track. A lot of the railroads,
it was quite different from one railroad to the next,
and that was one of the things holding back nations,
the nation from really taking full advantage of having a
rail system, because oftentimes, if you have a different rail size,
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you would have to pull your car your train at
the end of your line and then offload and then
loaded onto the other train that's on a different, you know,
different size track and then for it to continuous journey,
which obviously are very costly in time and effy.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
The history of our of the railroads being built in
the United States is so interesting. I listened to several
podcasts about the expansion of the railroad, how it was built,
the people behind it, the bureaucracy, like some shady deals.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
People stealing the funds, offshoring the money, and you know,
creating intentionally creating delays and things and dangerous work conditions.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Bringing in Chinese immigrants to do the walk of the labor.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Well, you have you had a mixture, you had he
did had Even once they got to Utah. You know,
the Mormon Church offered up, I think it was Bringham
Young actually offered up if they would bring the rail
through certain places in Utah. They they he would mobilize
Mormon labor. And they actually enjoyed the Mormon labor because
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they were very disciplined. They didn't drink, you know, get
drunk and show up at work hungover and things like that.
And they were actually really good laborers. Okay, yeah, good
to know because they were disciplined.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
And so you're saying, I should if I'm going to
build a railroad, I should hire some Chinese folks because
they're hard workers, and also some Mormons.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Yeah, if you want to go through Utah, If I.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Want to go through Utah, Okay, okay, good to know,
good to know, Dylan. But yeah, it's pretty interesting history.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
It's very interesting, all right, Dylan.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Well, that about wraps it up for some of the
most haunted places in New Hampshire and Maine. I'm skirt,
like I said, we're going to make our way down
the coast to discuss more haunted places ahead of Halloween.
It's my favorite.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
I love hearing scary stories and it always makes me, uh,
I always can't help but think how would I react
in that situation.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
I always think I want to buy ghost hunting equipment. Yeah,
Like when I hear these stories, I'm like, it would
be pretty fun to do ghost hunting. And when I've
met people who do it, they are really into it,
Like they seem like they really enjoy it and it's
so cool, you know, to get some of that equipment
and go around and see what you can find.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
No, it is really cool, and I think it's a
very subjective thing. But honestly, when you get into the
physical readings of like the environment and things like that,
some of that stuff's pretty hard to explain, right.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Like temperature, well, like a cold spot and yeah, a
cold spot where there's like thermal cameras they show you
like the hot and cold spot and things.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Yeah, I mean if you're in an environment, if you're
somewhere and it's just everything else, the entire structure or place,
you know, is the same, even if it's outdoors, and
then all of a sudden you you physically walk into
a cold spot that's you know, many degrees less than
the surrounding environment. It's very strange. I mean, I don't
(44:22):
even know of a natural phenomenon that would explain that.
It's very odd.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
At some point, Dylan, I would like to cover Ed
and Lorraine Warren and like their history and some of
the hoaxes. There's a you know, there's a lot of
folks who claim like everything they did was a big hoax, right,
So I would like to do an episode on them sometime.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
They certainly made a lifelong career out of it, so.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
Possibly that'll be a future Mount Murders episode. That'd be
fun to discuss Ed and Lorraine Warren, maybe we can
discuss just like ghost hunting.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
And really general, you can have a multi part limited
series on mysticism and all the hoax back in the
day of spiritualism, Houdini's famous fight against you know, con
artist and hoaxed hoaxed spiritualist. He was very adamant about,
(45:19):
you know, basically outing these phonies.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Well early on, I do believe we covered some stories
or cases on Patreon about some.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
Of these spiritual Oh yeah we did. It's been a
while ago, all right. So that is it for the
spooky day today, and I can't wait to continue our
travels down the East coast with you having crawling.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
Yes, I can't wait. Thank you for that, and thanks
for everyone that listens.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
If you have a spooky tale, we'll take. We just
like to hear from our listeners. Let's put together an
amazing listener story episode for Halloween. If you've got some
cool stories, email us Mountain Murders Podcast at gmail dot com.
We would love to hear your tales and we will
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make sure everybody the world knows about your spooky experience.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Yeah, we'd love to hear any tale, any spooky tales
you have. Hey, even if it was a scary prank
you did on somebody, that's a really fun story, go
ahead and drop it in there and we would love
to read them.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
Oh my gosh, scary pranks no.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Is that too much for you? Dude?
Speaker 2 (46:31):
I get I freak out whenever the biscuit can pops open. Okay, right, yeah,
so someone dressed in like a scary costume and like
laying in wait for me, Yeah, that would be I
would be scared. You're gonna hear me scream and probably run. Yeah, yeah,
mist definitely.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
You may stand and fight.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Your daughter used to do this thing where she would
crawl on her hand like backwards, like crab walk backwards
with her hair hanging in her face like the grudge girl. Yeah,
and that shit was creepy.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
She did a good grudge girl for sure.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
She would do it like across the living room.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Yeah, shout out to darkness, Shout out to Dela.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
That was scary, scared, freak me out, dude.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
All right, So until next time, stay jolly, stay creepy.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
Yeah yeah like that all right, Dylan, I'll see you later, Bud.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
Bye,
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