Janky Knob

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, y'all, welcome back to Mountain Murders sometime this week.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm Heather and I'm Dylan. Just before we pressed record,
I heard you screaming something about don't touch my knob.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
That's right, I gotta I got a janki knob on
our You got a Jankie knob. That's the name of
this episode on our hardware, our soundboard, which was actually
funded by Sunday. She still listens. Thank you very much, me, lady,
and Sunday is amazing.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
She is a hometown girl.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
She is an oog Mount Murders friend and fan man.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
We have had some great folks from the start. We have.
You know, that is the one thing that keeps me
going with this podcast, because yeah, there are times when
I'm a bit burned out and I don't feel like
researching and reading and writing. I mean, you know, it's
a lot of work, and there are times when I'm
feeling kind of yuck and down and out. But it

(00:59):
is our listeners who have become friends, the support we get,
the kind messages that really keeps me going.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yes, I agree with that, and uh, unlike Heather, I'm
always one thousand percent and incredible and perfect and point
on point you are. Yeah, every episode. I don't think
there's been a time that I've ever let our listeners
now you lucky, not true. It is hard. Sometimes you're
just tired or tired with life or you know, and uh,

(01:30):
maybe you're want to a depression loop or something. But
we still, you know, want to put out an episode
because we really do love connecting with our listeners and
it means a lot that people have been here. Some
have been here from the beginning, and even if this
is your first episode you've ever listened to, it means
so much to us.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
When we get emails or our dms to our Instagram
account after lunching True crime awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Somebody's all up in Mount Murders dms sometimes down to listen.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
When people send you know, we have listeners that send
me like fun a videos. Chris and Florida. He sends
me a lot of funny videos. Okay, our little Mountain
hippie friend, she sends a lot of cool stuff. I mean,
it really is so heartwarming to know that we have
these great people out there.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
It is so back to my Jankie nob back to
your Jacos. I've got this old soundboard here. It's been
with us for years now. You can credit this and
Sunday directly with a huge upgrade in our sound. I'm
sure you can. You know from early on, if you've
dug back in the vault, we were pretty pretty great.
It was a little rough, so it was a borrowed

(02:36):
laptop and some thirty dollars mics.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Oh god, you make us sound so broke.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
No, but it's true. And we used to sit in
the parking lot of a McDonald's and still wi fi
to upload episodes.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Well that was only because the Wi fi or house
did not work because we lived in a very rural
area where they don't tend to give people broadband internet.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
No, it's true, and that really does sound like some
made up origin stories for something, But it's the truth.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
And shut out to McDonald's your free WiFi.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Yeah, thank you, and yeah, papped us along. I got
one knob. I have to hold my head just right
to get it to work, and I think I got
it sounding good.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Well, I'm going to keep my hands off your knob today.
WHOA am I going to touch your knob? I'm not
going to lightly tap the knob.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Don't you even look at that not going to air.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Dust or you know, dust, spray dust or whatever that
shit is. The candor. I'm not going to blow your knob.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
I've done blowed on the knob.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
I think I'm not going to do any of that doing.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Okay, we're good. I think we'll be okay if you
do all those things. All right, So moving on is
going to be a recrap, right, we have a.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Lot of headlines to discuss craziness happening all around us
in this world. It's true and one of the main
stories that has taken over this week. I'm sure everybody
knows exactly what I'm talking about, a political assassination. I'm
not going to get too far into this conversation. You know,

(03:57):
we like to keep things pretty apolitical on the show.
We don't want to hurt anybody's feelings or offend anyone.
I mean, that's not where you know when we say
when we say things like politically, we're not, you know,
we don't really want to step on toes.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
No, and this is politics are everywhere nowadays. Everyone knows this,
and we like for this to be an escape from
all that.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, we're not your we're not. There's plenty echo chambers
out there.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
There are we go in you know ours, and you
can go in yours, and that's all fine and good,
but this is a place for true crime and silly stuff.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Well, and along with that, Dylan, I do want to
bring up this point. You know, a society without empathy
and compassion doesn't collapse all at once. It erodes from
the inside out. And what happens depends on how far
like we are willing to go. Are we going to
continue down this path or is this going to be
a bit of a watershed moment where we pause and say,

(04:51):
you know what, we need to evaluate reevaluate who we are,
our humanity, our empathy, our compassion for others, and should
we allow politics and issues become so dominant in our
lives that we are willing to dehumanize people, exploit them,

(05:16):
We're willing to isolate ourselves. Yeah, have authoritarian tendencies.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yes, I mean people have lost a even before this
tragic event happened, people have lost friends, family, You have relationships,
you know, long term relationships. I've lost friends, My family
was already gone.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
And pour one out for your lost family.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
But I'm just gonna pour one out for the family.
But no, I mean, it's just terrible, and it really
it really makes you wonder, you know. I feel at
a certain point that we're allowing all these things, cultural issues,
societal issues, disagreements, no matter how you feel or believe,
to actually start affecting our humanity. Yeah, and we have

(06:06):
there are some examples. I think we've had some very
stark examples of that, Gosh, in the last two weeks,
I mean many more before that. It really is like
that was well said, how far do we allow this
to go?

Speaker 2 (06:21):
I mean, gosh, the last thing I'm gonna say, Dylan is,
no matter where you stand on the political spectrum, my
line in the sand is celebrating someone's murder. Yes, what
I'm saying, Like, watching this political assassination on live stream,

(06:44):
seeing multiple videos of a man losing his life in
this horrific way, the crowds running, the crowd screaming, the terror,
it was very heartbreaking for me. I was deeply affected
by watching these videos. I mean, I found very traumatizing. Yeah,
it was in four K it's clear, crystal very traumatizing.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
No, I agree, it was. It's hard.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
It's I mean, and I may not agree with everything
you know, with what this man was saying, but watching
him die in such a way, knowing his wife is
in the crowd, and he's the father of two young children,
and he's being assassinated for exercising a First Amendment right
that we all are entitled to. And just because somebody

(07:28):
don't like what he said, they they thought they could
take him out. I just find that reprehensible and it's
scary and very frightening. And I don't know where we're
headed after this, really.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
No, because for me personally, I think free speech is
a cornerstone of what makes America.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
A good and gosh, you were going to say what
makes America great?

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Made it a great again? Not just what has made
America great? In my opinion all my life, I really
always valued that and thought it's one of the things
that separates us from many other parts of the world.
And I think it's a very important component. And I've
always said to my my personal mantra is, even if
I don't agree with your speech, I will die or

(08:19):
fighting for your right to say it right. Absolutely, And
I really think that's important.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
I think it's very important. Coming from a journalism background,
someone who is a you know, freelance writer and also
someone who's been I guess you could say like a
political commentator. I mean I've written many an op ed
which have been published in you know, various newspapers and whatnot,
expressing my political beliefs, and they were not always popular opinions.

(08:48):
I mean I would see social media comments people were
fucking mad and I would get death threats over just
my opinion, and like, who am.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
I I'm nobody, right, are you somebody?

Speaker 2 (08:59):
I'm just I'm just over here, like you know, taking
the time to write what I feel. And man, people
are they get outraged and I just don't understand because
we all have a right to believe. And because you
think these words are vile and I don't like what's
coming out of someone's mouth, I guess you feel a

(09:20):
moral superiority or something. And the bottom line is you're
really not better than this other person because you have
beliefs that seem incredibly outrageous and wild to other people. Right,
And so if you think, well, I'm going to take
out everybody I disagree with, I mean, where does that end?

(09:42):
You know?

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, And I think it's tyrannical, it's terrorism, and it's
fascist to silence your enemies. When you try to suppress
speech and thought and thought and intimidate folks into not
speaking up, not exercising their right, that's fascism.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
I agree. It's a key component of fascism, which fascism
is about.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
And I guess I just want to say, like, you know,
I know we have a lot of folks listening in
right now, and you're all probably having some of the
same feelings. You're shocked, you might be sad, you are troubled,
or you know, you're worried about the future. You don't
know what's going to happen, and you know, we're in
the same boat with you guys, And all we really

(10:32):
want is I want to return back to where politics
didn't dominate everything. Yeah, that we can just live and
let live. We could agree to disagree. Yeah, we didn't
let it control us. Because we're letting it control We're
letting these things control us, and that's so weird to me.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
And when we do that on all these issues, the
ninety nine percent loses. Honestly, the ninety nine percent loses
and the one percent wins. Because at the end of
the day, I've said it before, we're more alike, and
we have more shared interests as far as our lives go,
and our neighborhoods and our schools and access to fresh

(11:18):
food and all opportunity we all want. That we're more
alike than we are different. I agree, and I've always
felt that way. And it's no matter how much I've
lived beside some of the craziest that gun people you've
ever met in your life, who really acted like they
truly hated me for some reason, for whatever reason, neighbors,
crazy neighbors, But I would still call the fire department

(11:40):
or police to help them. You see what I'm saying.
I couldn't. I don't know, I just could. I just
think there's a basic to be a decent citizen, a
decent person. There's a basic level that you you put
out towards your fellow human, no matter how they are agree.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
And I just find it really upset setting to see
people celebrate death and relish in it. I mean, I've
seen some videos from folks that it just seems like
they're fucking demon like they are loving it, they are
eating it up, and I just think it's horrible, because like,

(12:18):
what have we become.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Right, I don't know, no, it's a lots of humanities.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Well, you know, Dylan, I had a friend, I have
this really good friend Ben, and honestly, I would probably
consider him to be one of the smartest people I know. Like,
he's super intelligent, guy, knows a lot about a lot.
And he sent me this little phrase I guess he wrote.
He was telling me he had an ex girlfriend that
was really upset this week and just freaking out about

(12:43):
the world and everything that's going on, and these were
the words he offered up and then he sent them
to me. And I have to say, I read this
little passage several times last night and it really helped me.
It kind of made a difference for me. And so
I was thinking, I would read this to you eyes
before we get into the news today, and I hope

(13:04):
maybe you find some comfort or some meaning in it.
He wrote, The world is a mostly dark and indifferent place.
There are flashes of light and goodness, but they are
inconstant and fleeting. What makes humankind noble and majestic is
that we keep trying every day, no matter the odds,
no matter the foreknowledge of our plight, we struggle ever

(13:26):
on towards some sort of transcendence.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Wow, damn.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
And I have to agree with that because we we
do keep on keeping on even when everything seems like
it's falling apart. We do.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
And I think we have an inherent drive to no
matter what, you know, pick the pieces back up and
keep going because I think we owe the people that
have lost everything or sacrificed everything so many times in
the past. We have to keep trying, right, we do.

(14:05):
I mean, it just seems like the best way to
move forward.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
We do, man, And if that means, you know, really
taking stock of who we are and what we believe
and trying to reconnect with our humanity, and then I
think that's what we should all be striving for.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
I agree. Go touch grass, Yes, get grounded, Get grounded,
Get those man made materials out from between you and
the earth.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Turn the phone off.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
That really mays yes, I'm going to start practicing that myself. Honestly,
I'm going to.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Start after this week. I'm disconnecting from social media, just personally,
and we have our podcast media and social media and
I'm going to keep updating that. But I just needed
a break because there's just too much of vitriol out
there now.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
I'm gonna get one of those little phone saves, because
I think I have a you can get a dopamine
addiction from scrolling and looking at your phone and whatever,
and touching your phone when you find yourself, when you
find yourself reaching for it, and opening apps that you
don't even mean to be, like you're trying to do
something else and you're but you're just out of muscle
memory opening whatever. You know, You're just dude, you know,

(15:14):
maybe you need to take a break. So I'm gonna
get one those little phone saves like to get for teenagers.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
I think we're gonna get a few where someone's like
they have too much chatter, ah chat, we're chatting too much?

Speaker 1 (15:24):
All right? So move on.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
You're ready to get to some of this week's crime dudes, Yeah,
I mean take your pick.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
All right.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Well, of course we have to mention nine to eleven
just happened. Yeah, and gosh, it's been like twenty.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Four years Yeah, twenty four years ago.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
That was a game changer for a lot of folks.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
That was a watershed moment. It was in our society absolutely.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Speaking of which, on September eleventh, this news story was
released doing and I'm just gonna go with this as
our top story for the day. A New York residence
home security camera captured the moment that a package was
stolen from their porch by masked bandit. What a raccoon?

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Oh my gosh, really.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah, The Plattsburgh resident said, a Chewi box, which contained
ninety three dollars worth of pet food, had been left
on the porch. It was being returned and it needed
to be picked up by FedEx. Well, this little snelly wag,
I don't know what you want to call him, a
little gangster, scoundrel, A little sclly wag. Called him a

(16:36):
snelly wag.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
So he's hipped to the Chewi boxes, little smelly wag.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
He was hip, dude, he was hungry. He shredded this box.
He feasted on its contents, Dylan, and.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Didn't pay a dime for it.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
No, The camera recorded the raccoon returning on other nights
to check to see if there were more edible goods around.
Chewy understood the situation and still offered a full refund.
But Dylan, this is not an uncommon thing, because back
in twenty twenty four, a Texas resident faced a bit
of a similar situation when a box of cookies had

(17:09):
been delivered to their front door, and a neighborhood possum
decided to lake claim squatters' rights.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Oh my gosh, keepers, dude, it reminds me of the
time we kept having our trash torn up.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
They say possession is nine tenths of the law. So
I think these cookies, this chewy box, it just belonged
to these little guys.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
It's hard to keep them away from raccoons. They're very
versatile creatures. They can climb anything.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
They are such little ninjas.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
They got their little hands. I mean, it's kind of creepy, honestly.
And I've had like a pack of five going after
my trash.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
And we had that for a minute.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, that we were. I was hanging the trash from
like the little porch up in the air because I
truly thought it was like stray cats or a possum
something like that. And I had it hanging out to
where you.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Back when we didn't have a trash can because we're lazy.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
I guess we lived in the hood. Somebody stollar trash
can but.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Can. But yeah, so that's when the that's when we
lived near the trap. Also, maybe they were like making
some dope in it or something.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah, so I'm still getting the bags ripped open. It's
literally hanging in like mid air from from a line,
and I'm like, what the hell. And I just happened
to flipped a lot on one night because I believe
Rufus was barking, and there I see five family.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Of raccoons and they were doing like a little acrobatics
and stuff, swinging around. Yeah, they could climb up and railing.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Little tom cruise raccoon come down from from some hardware
in a line and one's holding on to the other
one and he's just reaching out. I'm just like, they
all froze.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
This was a mission possible.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Yeah, they all froze and uh like like poses when
I turned the lot on.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Gosh, it was so funny. It was the funniest thing
I ever remember this, all right, Dylan, So that was
a little bit of a laughable moment that we can
enjoy before we get back into some of the shit
that's going on in the world. One thing that I
was not aware of but had recently learned, Dylan, and
this is quite disturbing, is a racist pipe bomb was

(19:22):
discovered at a Los Angeles Elementary school campus.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Wait, the pop bomb itself is race.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
I was wearing a little kleansman. Oh my god, it
was wearing a little bit cheap damn yeh gotta watch out.
You never know. These pipe bombs are fucked up?

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Is that what the headline actually says?

Speaker 3 (19:43):
That the racist pipe bomb was wearing a clin No, No,
that a racist pot bomb was found.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yeah. Okay, so this happened on September tenth, around eight
thirty am. Bennett Q School African American resource specialist Tammy
Moseley went to her car to retrieved some supplies and
that's where she allegedly discovered a device behind her car.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Okay, that's scary.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
The image of the device obtained by kt LA News
shows five cylinder these cylinder shaped objects kind of taped
together with texts that had a racial slur underlined.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Okay, this is scary.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
I mean this is a direct threat of terrorist nature.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Yeah. If this is real, it's any explosive device, which
I'm a bit bit confused because pop bombs typically have
a literal fuse and have to be like lit and
used almost like a grenade from my understanding of pop
bomb construction. But no, if I ever found anything like this,

(20:52):
I would be deeply disturbed.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah. Well not only that, but you know the threat
of this kind of terrorist. It's also against an African
American educator and this entire school community.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Well, that's horrible, that's very scary.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
So of course there is an investigation happening. Englewood Unified.
The school district reported the incident to the police department.
Of course, the police has been out investigating and they
are trying to figure out who left this thing. But man,
that's frightening. A pipe bomb at a school, an elementary school.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Well, yeah, no, that's horrible. And someone made that and
left it there, for one, threatening threatening this individual. And
two it's in the area where there's a bunch of kids,
a bunch of curious kids walking around who may just
see it and pick it up, like what is this?

(21:49):
I mean, gosh, anything could happen.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
And man, pipe bombs are so scary. I mean, we've
discussed the Olympic bombing, we had the Eric rue Off
episode and the amount of damage that these pipe bombs
can do.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Well, yeah, I mean the nature of it is uh,
For one, the casing is going to be shrapnel if
it does detonate. And two they're they're they're typically filled
with nails, tiny nails, ball bearings, anything that would create
even more shrapnel. I mean, it's just a dev It's
a weapon of mass destruction. Let's be honest.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Are you ready to move along, Dylan, because I have
another deeply disturbing story to tell you about.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Okay, if you're.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Thinking about buying a new home or building a new home,
you might want to check on your contractor and their employees.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Wait, you moved the headstones, but you left the grapes,
didn't you? You just moved the headstones. What movie is that?
All the light?

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Carriyonne?

Speaker 1 (22:52):
That's the polker guy's reference.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Caroline all Right. A Raleigh, North Carolina man is accused
of placing hidden cameras inside of outlets in a Garner
home while it was under construction. Oh Thirty four year
old Andrew Belter of Raleigh is charged with felony, secret peeping,
and breaking and entering. Police say Belter broke into the

(23:14):
home on ben Letty Court in early August when it
was still under construction and it was under contract to
be purchased at this time, mind you, So he installs
these hidden cameras in order to watch the new homeowners
once the house is built.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Okay, well that's super creepy. That's going to make me
do an IR infrared scan of my entire home.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
He's been arrested and booked into the Wake County Detention
Center under one hundred thousand dollars secured bond. It's of
course still being investigated by law enforcement. But that is
one that is one strange story.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
No, okay, I have a couple of questions. All I probably.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Don't have the answer for it, but I can offer
up an opinion.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Yeah, we'll just be subjective. Okay, did he know who
the new owners had the home under contract? Or was
he simply installing this to just people on whoever happened
to buy the house. Which one's creepier?

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah, I don't know. Geez it's again, I, like I said,
a very disturbing story, very disturbing.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Well, you know, you can get devices. Actually I believe
there may be apps on your phone that can help
you do this. People tend to It's actually something I've
thought about. You've heard of this in airbnbs, right, of
these hidden cameras, these deviant, creepy cameras, you know, photo

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or videoing or photoing people in the bathroom and states
of undress or any anything like that. It's very scary. Yeah,
really it really makes me wonder.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
That's why when I go to an Airbnb, I make
sure you like Indian food so I can give him
a real treat.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Look, we can't use any of this footage. They're gonna
be like this business. I'm blow a gasket. Nobody, there's
no market for this.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
They're gonna, well, I don't know they're they're gonna be
in there making some glorrilla noises watching it because they're
gonna be like.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Ooh, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, what the hell?
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
You know you're so immature on this podcast. I think
we talk about poop and marting my way too much.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Well, you know, now that you have brought it up,
I hope I didn't poop or I'm sorry, I hope
I didn't fart on you last night when I went
to sleep, because I totally went to sleep holding one end.
I'm just gonna be honest with you.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Well, remember the other day when I was harassing you
all day and telling you smelled like.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Poop, trying to convince me that I smelled.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Well, then I was probably onto something. See I had
had the force sight to know that you were going
to be disgusting.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Well, but did I? You didn't ever get assaulted, did you?
I don't know about the pleasure pillows.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Oh god, that's your new nickname, A pleasure pillow.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah, and I got a yankie knob, a pleasure.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Pillow with a junky knob. M I might want to
trade in the JUNKI knob.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
No, baby, it's it's the knob that's been with you
all this time.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
I need I need a like, properly functioning knob.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Oh yeah, you want a bigger nob.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
I need a younger knob.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Oh God, let's move along. Geez, you want a textured knob.
You want to get some rubber, a rubberized texture for
extra grip. What's happening, y'all know? Let's just move on.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
You want to move on?

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (26:39):
She wants big weirdo.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
She wants Tomorrow's not dude.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
We have to talk about this because when I first
saw the headline for the story, I was like, w
T F. Dylan. So there is this popular singer and
I don't know how you pronounce his name. It's D
four VD, so I don't know if it's supposed to
be like a play on David or if you call.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Him dfour VD df VD.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Yeah, I don't know. I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
No, but this is a disturbing story. I have no idea,
never heard of him, which is true for a lot
of instacloud or I was gonna all, I.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Was gonna say, any artist that has come out after
like probably twenty ten, I don't know who.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Yeah, but this is such a disturbing story.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Though, if music wasn't made before I was born, I
probably I'm not listening to it all right. So this
popular singer D four, we'll just call him D four,
is cooperating with authorities after investigators found a body in
the trunk of a car that was registered to this musician.
His tesla was impounded last week at a towyard in

(27:46):
Hollywood after employees reported a foul odor coming from the car.
Officers found human remains inside a bag in the front
trunk of the tesla, and from what I understand, it
was a dismembered body.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
That's a fronk.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
A fronk, a dismember body was found inside a plastic
bag in the front of a twenty twenty three tesla
registered to this singer, David Anthony Burke.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Okay, I mean, what the hell, dude.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
So around noon on September eighth, LAPD officers responded to
this tow yard after a report of this foul smelling
odor coming from the vehicle. The LA Examiner's off Medical
Examiner's Office has said the corpse was a woman about
five foot two. She had black, wavy hair and a
distinct sh tattoo on her finger. She was wearing a

(28:41):
tube top, black leggings, a yellow metal bracelet, and metal
stud earrings. She's not been identified as of yet, and
police are not clear on how the woman died, but
they are investigating it as a homicide.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Well, can I say that's an awesome tattoo, right to
have it on your finger and you could shush people
with it with the on the side of this girl. Yeahs,
But I have to wonder what happened to this poor
girl and especially for her to her remains to end
up like that.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
This is a funky story, dude. Okay. So this tesla
had Texas license plates and had been towed after it
was abandoned for five days at Bluebird Avenue and Doheeny
Drive in the Hollywood Hills area. The impounded tesla had
been at the tow yard for two days before workers

(29:38):
sniffed this foul smell.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
So they they sniff it now, okay, So that's when
they realized something was wrong is with it after it
had been at the tow yard for a day or two. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
The twenty year old singer songwriter is known for indie
R and B and alt pop hits. Of course, he
rose to fame after one of his songs went viral
on TikTok Boom, which seems to be the way a
lot of new artists are discovered. In twenty twenty five,
he has more than thirty three million monthly listeners on Spotify.

(30:15):
Damn quite successful. And now I'm embarrassed. Now I'm ashamed
of my old ast self because I've never heard of
this person.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
We're gonna have to listen to R R two three
D's music now.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
These nuts are.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Two before dsets R two D two.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Yeah, David D four it's D four.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Right now. Like I said, now I'm embarrassed, and now
I just feel like I'm not hip.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
I like him. I like R and B. I haven't
heard any good modern R and B.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Love R and B.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Yeah that's right.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Gosh, this man, he will listen to Keith Sweat all
the time. He wants some Casey and Jojo.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Yeah, some Jodasy, some Jodasy, some Keith Sweat some Okay.
The supergroup is LSG. That's Gerald LeVert, Keith Sweat and
Johnny Gill. God, okay, I know of.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Johnny Gill and Gerald Leavert. Did he have a like
a solo career?

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Oh yeah, did he have a pop song? He was
a little older than the other two, if I'm to
remember correctly, and.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Uh yeah, yeah, okay, I mean I remember these names,
and then we had I've never heard of LSG, But
admittedly I'm not a huge R and B fan, right
at least not what I would consider modern R and B.
And I like sixties and seventies soul and R and
B music, Okay, right that I love that shit l.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
S Round and round we go. Okay, yeah, all right,
well we're gone to stop. Nobody's got to know. That's right,
super group right there. But let's move.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Oh gosh, we'll just have karaoke hour. We'll have Dylan's
Karaoke Hour and he can just sing various.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
Few barsh Okay, yeah, sure.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Now this is something else, I guess, another aspect to
this story that makes me wonder if there's something else
going on here. So, one day after the human remains
were found on that Tesla, a second body was found
in a separate towyard in South Los Angeles. Family members
had fould a missing person's report and tracked the woman

(32:34):
to a scorched Honda Civic that was at an m
pound lot on West Gage Avenue. When the family members
wanted to look at the car, the towyard operator called
the LAPD and that's when investigators found the woman's body
partially burned in the trunk.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Damn. So you have a car that's been towed, it's
been burned, and they don't check the trunk off the rip.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Well.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
At this point, investigators don't believe the Tesla case and
the Honda case are related. But it's pretty strange to
find two bodies in the trunk of two different cars
within a day of each other, right or is it?

Speaker 1 (33:08):
I mean, it seems very strange to me, But I'm
also like I said, surprised that that would not be
protocol when you find a burned car to check it over.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
Well, I agree.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
You know, every time I drive buy a towyard or
a junk yard, I always think, are there any bodies?

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Over there, I know, right in the trunk of that
old Colors.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Especially if they got one of those crushers. Yeah, that
makes like the car into a block of steel. I
always imagine if someone got.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Disposed there organized crime.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Yeah, because if you.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Know, I think that's that was a good disposal method
for a lot of organized crime members.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Well think about it. You can get rid of a
vehicle and a body all wadded up like that under
this tremendous pressure and just and.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Then you can go home and have your gabba gule.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
Thrown onto a barge. The instant goes to some recycling
some huge steel plant that melts it down. I mean,
it's pretty freaking ingenious.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah, if you don't get caught, I guess, well, as.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Long as everybody's in on it, you're not gonna get caught.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Well, you know what, Dylan, we don't champion murder here
unless it's oh you know what. Now. Earlier I was
like we don't champion murder, but we have two exceptions.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
We have three exceptions. I think that the third exception matters.
Go ahead and say that.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Okay, So if you're gonna celebrate murder in front of
me and be happy that someone's dead, it's a pedophile,
any any pedo, Okay.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
We're all for you know, they can all die, male
or female.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah, I don't care, fire and squad bud, public hangting.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Or even a non binary pedophile.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
And we will always celebrate if somebody takes out Casey
Anthony or the bitch just does, like maybe one day
she's eating a chicken wing, she get your choke on it.
I'm not gonna be sad.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
And I also saw a third one added to that
list of Megan Boswell, Oh fuck that bitch Boom, she's
on it.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Child killers. Now, I don't care pedophiles, child killers.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
We go old school, We'll get Susan Smith, we'll jump around,
we'll go get her out, parolea jump up and get down.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
We can celebrate those because I'm not gonna have any
humanity for those people.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
They deserve it.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
They deserve it. Dylan, this is a strange headline. Woman
bit off the tongue of an attempted rapist and was
deemed a criminal ever since. But now she finally has justice.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
How's that even possible?

Speaker 2 (35:31):
This is a headline on people dot Com. This woman
is from South Korea and she was convicted more than
six decades ago for biding off part of an assailant's
tongue during a sexual assault. She has been acquitted after
spending years challenging this ruling. So this happened in nineteen

(35:55):
sixty five, that is when she was convicted for aggravated
bottom injury. The Corps overturned her conviction, saying that her
actions were justified as self defense. Finally, just now.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Yeah, she's spent decades in prison.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
She's seventy nine years old, and this happened when she
was eighteen.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
I just can't believe I've never heard of this before,
because that is that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Choi Malja, seventy nine, is finally innocent. She was just
eighteen and nineteen sixty four when she was attacked by
a twenty one year old man who tried to rape
her in Busan, South Korea. During the attack, the man
allegedly threw her to the ground, forced his tongue into
her mouth and started holding her nose, trying to prevent

(36:41):
her from breathing, and that's when she defended herself and
was able to get away from him by biting off
part of.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
His tongue good.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
More than two weeks later, the attacker and some of
his friends tracked her down at home and threatened to
stab her father. Prosecutors dropped attempted rape charges against the
alleged attacker, who received a six month sentence which was
spended for two years for trespassing and intimidation. But this woman,
on the other hand, the victim, was convicted of aggravated

(37:10):
bodily injury and sentenced to ten months in prison.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Oh so oh, I thought you were saying, okay, she's
just now been at zonted of those but she didn't.
She wasn't right.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
She has spent years trying to fight this conviction. Turned. Yeah,
I'm sorry I should have said she's trying to exonerate herself.
But yes, so she's tried for years to get this
dropped and expunged.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
As a matter of principle, Let's be honest.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
This happened sixty one years ago, and she was the
victim and they're going to punish her and let the
assailant go. I mean, what the mmm, what is going on?

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Well, when you hear of these things, uh, that is
wild people breaking into someone's house and falling or you know,
getting harmed or hurt and then suing the home, or
when you this is even this is even more egregious. Honestly,
when you hear stories like that, it just really makes
you wonder about what is wrong with our systems of

(38:13):
justice because it just seems to me like that's just
how in the world do you ever convict? I mean,
I don't know if there's a system uses a jury
or what, or a panel or a judge, but anybody
in the right mind would champion and clap that she
was able to harm this person that is trying to

(38:37):
rape her.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Just have no words. I don't know. Strange, strange. I
don't know how you can allow a rapist, an alleged rapist,
to be free, but you're going to punish the person
who was protecting themselves or trying to fight back.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Right, Yeah, you know, I thought of a method. They're
probably never fly in public for stopping all carjackings. Okay,
so they run up to your window with a gun
in your face.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
It's basically a cars como class no, because.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
They might catch you with your window down, like you
warn me of constantly. What you have is a civilian
form of a Claymore mind which explodes in one direction
in your door panel that blows out right, and all
you gotta do is hit this, you know, very well

(39:34):
placed particular panic button that you will never hit by accident,
to blast that person's guts through their asshole right in
an instant and they don't have any time to react
or shoot you.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
I like your creativity.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
Boom, dude.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
I like the just the sound of guts being blasted
through an asshole. That's very graphic.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Yeah, yeah, I think all carjackers deserve it. I don't
know going to have.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
I don't think it's going to work, Dylan, but I'm
gonna give you props for creativity. I'm also going to
tell you you might feel a little bit demented. I'm
just saying I just.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
Took a terrible crime statistic off the books.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Okay, Well again, you're very creative. Someone out there take
Dylan's idea run with it, and.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
I can instantly see so many liability issues with said,
installation in a vehicle. Yeah, right, like kids messing with
something they've been told to leave alone.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
For one, going through the drive through, you accidentally blow
up your nuggets, or through worker you glast, you blast
the person at pan Express who's just handing your honey
walnut shrimp because you hit the.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Wrong button by accident. Okay, I see there may be
a fallacy in my logic, Dylan.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
A search for a missing woman in Columbia, South Carolina,
is now being treated as a homicide investigation. On the
same day that the Columbia Police Department intensified it search
for a missing woman, it also said officers are now
treating it like it's a homicide investigation. And you know,
I have to say, in missing persons cases, I don't
think that's necessarily a bad thing, right right, They're gonna

(41:13):
get if you're treating it as a homicide, then I
think you're gonna maybe investigate it a little more thoroughly
than if it's just a missing person's case.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Well, let's see what they have to say. They expanded
their search. Police expanded their search by the way for
Angela Fuller on Tuesday, and officers searched in various locations
throughout Colombia in an effort to find the fifty six
year old woman who was reported missing on September first.
She was first reported missing to law enforcement by a
loved one who had not heard from Angelus since August

(41:43):
twenty ninth. Fuller was last seen at the three thousand
block of North Beltline Boulevard. That's in a part of
Colombia between two Notch Road and Forest Drive, and there
was no word if she was alone when she was
last seen. Would they have searched more than seventy five locations,
including a buildings and lots during their search efforts. So

(42:04):
why police started Tuesday morning informing the public about the search,
saying and wanted to see this woman returned home safely.
Obviously that's their goal. The afternoon kind of took a
different turn with the investigation. So, based on the amount
of time that has passed since Missus Fuller was last
seen and evidence was seized by investigators, they're now investigating

(42:26):
it as a homicide investigation.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Well, I think, like you said, that is maybe, especially
in this case, the appropriate way to approach it. Right.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Well, that's one of the reasons why I thought this
would be a good article to discuss because we know
with missing persons cases, most of the time they get filed,
there's very little done to find these people.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Yeah, and in investigators defense, there are a lot of
missing person.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Case also have a lot of other things, right, you know,
and most smaller departments don't have just a like a
you know, an officer or an investigator that's just committed
to like missing persons cases.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Yeah, and they will always point out, especially when it's
an adult, that people do have a right to privacy.
They have a right to come and go, come and go,
and they have a right to not tell people where
they're going, and if they want to literally cut themselves
off from anyone that knows them in their life and
friends and family included. And you know, you shouldn't be

(43:35):
able to sick the police force essentially on a person
just because they're missing. And but we've oftentimes seen that
there seems to be like if you for instance, in
a case, I remember we had the woman's purse and
like keys, and all her personal belongings were like laying

(43:56):
outside of her open door of her car and like
her driveway.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Look, oh, I know which.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Case that's the Jessica dischan case. That's from like gosh,
that's when we first started the pod.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Dude, how do you know? Literally a vault?

Speaker 2 (44:11):
I am a vault When it comes to this podcast.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
You truly are you are you are an essential component.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
And true crume encyclopaedia.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
You really are the archive of mountain murders.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Very It's weird because like I you know, I've talked
about this, like I can't do math for shit, you
cannot fucking add subtract. Don't make me do algebra like
none of that ship. But when it comes to subjects
that I'm interested in, I have like this photographic memory.
I'm full of random facts.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Yeah, I know all the time, I understand, and I
have the memory of a goldfish. Yes, I think there
is something very wrong with my memory.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
I have wondered if you have like some kind of
brain trauma or injury being for real, I.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
Know, and it's my just having smoke the marijuanas or
whatever partying down back. No, well, yeah, I am sure
because this goes this goes beyond that.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
No, Dylan, because don't you remember back in the eighties
that PSA, this is your brain on drugs? And it
was like an egg frying, and then they said, any questions, See,
that's what's happened. It's just appear your little brain has
been fried around in this little pan, sizzling, and then
they just left it on and so now it's just
all burned up and charred.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
That's not actually how brains work.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Well, that's what's wrong with your brain. How do you
know you can't remember anything? Well, what are you trying
to say? You know all about brains?

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Now, I ain't.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
No, damn brain surgeon, you don't know.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
So actually it's a it's a good thing we have you.
But yeah, when you have a circumstance like that and
you still have cops kind of waffling or well, you know,
that kind of gets ridiculous at a certain point. So
it really is a fine line that they walk.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
Well yeah, I mean, I know I bring this up sometimes,
but it's hard not to mention it. My cousin Carrie
has been missing for four years, and you know, in
the beginning, they the police tried to make it out like, well,
she just took off on her own, right she did,
you know, it's by choice. But here we are four

(46:16):
years later. No, you know, not nearly as sign nor
hair of her. And I just wonder, like, so do
we still think she ran off on her own?

Speaker 1 (46:26):
I mean, come on, well, we know about that area.
We know enough about it to know that they don't care,
and they just always use excuse like, well, you know,
they're having addiction issues, or they have pending charges, they
went on the run for some misdemeanor charges and.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
There's been no activity on their social yeah or anything
like that. Yeah, this person who obviously had a criminal
record and sort of stayed in trouble because.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Of their addiction never shows up anywhere else.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
They never show up anywhere else on police's radar. That's
very strange.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
Yeah, I know, it's really incredible, But no, we could
actually do an episode, and I think maybe we should
do an episode on that area. We're from western North
Carolina and some kind of notorious, at least locally notorious
cases that were basically either horribly mishandled and mismanaged or

(47:21):
completely ignored. And there's actually some conspiracy theories and some
string of deaths that some people believe could possibly be
connected in that area. So that'd be an interesting subject.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
Yeah, recently, and I'm not going to name any names here,
but I've had people reach out to me on social
media from back home like are you aware of this situation?
And there have been multiple deaths tied to this one
to a female in town, and it's just really strange

(47:53):
that multiple people who are dating her or involved with
her seem to die. And it's like kind of strange circumstances.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Yeah, I know, Yeah, I mean, what's the statistical odds?

Speaker 2 (48:05):
Well, I don't know, but I also, you know, what
are the odds that your uncle works for the police
department and that you never get in trouble AnyWho? Yeah,
I mean it's the same small town, shady bullshit. You know.
I think a lot of people know or understand when
they live in these little places.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
But as we're kind of going down memory lane a bit,
I think we've seen this in large metropolitan areas as well. Communities,
absolutely segments of people, groups of people that are marginalized,
ignored and forgotten about. And you can name them all.
Indigenous persons of color, black women, trans women, period, trans folks,

(48:47):
the gay community. I mean, gosh, we've covered a lot
just here at Mount Murders and almost every group, but
those notably honestly have been many many times ignored and
while there's active, remain unsolved, remain unsolved, no follow up,

(49:08):
no resources.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
And uh yeah, now, let's be honest, they just don't
have any interest and.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
They don't care. They don't care, they don't care. Wow, Okay,
it's like through again.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
We've come full circled on because again it boils down
to where's your humanity? Where's your empathy and compassion for
other human beings?

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Right? I agree? And on that sentiment, can we include
another one more case on this regrab, that the incident
that happened on the Charlotte, North Carolina light rail system.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
Oh, we're going to call it an incident that was
a cold blooded murder, the cold blooded murder of the
Ukrainian immigrant Irena.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
I can't.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
I can't say well, I can say it. I just
don't have it in front of me.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
Yes, well, while you get that, yes we will call
it the cold blooded murderous attack by fourteen Arina Zarutska,
a fourteen time arrested, convicted criminal who, in my opinion,
should not have been in public and able to harm anyone.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Okay, again, very traumatizing for a lot of people to
see this video make the rounds. I mean it's everywhere, Yes, right,
you can't not see it even when you don't want
to see these brutal snuff films. I mean, that's kind
of what it is. The thing that was so disturbing,

(50:53):
aside from this poor young woman being attacked, is watching
not a single fucking person on that train offered to
help her. Not a single fucking person ran over to
hold that girl's hand, to hug her, to put pressure
on that wound. The poor little thing died there, scared

(51:16):
to death, confused, not knowing what the fuck happened, and
not a single fucking person had the heart to go
over and check on her or to help her. Yeah,
I am like fumean mad at those people on that train,
because I'm like, what is wrong with you? And I
know I'm a little crazy and I'll own up to it.

(51:37):
But if I'd been on that train, first of all,
I wouldn't have cared if that dude had a knife,
I would have been running attacking that motherfucker to the grounds,
like I would have been like crazy ape woman on him. Right,
But at the least I'm gonna go check on this
girl and try to help her and aid her.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
Now, I know it's easy to say, well, if you're
enjoy your innut situation, but I know I feel this
look in my soul. I would have fairly certain that
I would have even if I had gotten stabbed. He
had a fairly small knife. Let's be honest. I would
have attacked that man. Yeah, and he picks the smallest
and he's not a big guy.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
I would have, you know, tiniest little person on this
train to stab it shows me you're a fucking coward. Yes,
And you know what, I don't care. I know me
and you we would have tagged team that dude.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
No, I have it, I know it, I know it
of my being, and I would. I would have had
to go to her. I mean, the guy was walking
away from them, and I get being scared in a
situation like that. How could you not be? This is
terroristic behavior, This is random violence of the most brutal
kind out of nowhere for absolutely no reason. I don't know.

(52:51):
I could not have just left. I could have not
just tried to scurry away and think only about myself
in that situation. There's just no way I can't. And
I know that my deepen my soul.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
No, no way, I could never be in one of
these people who stand by on the sidelines, watching recording,
not stepping into help, not intervening, not contacting law enforcement
or trying to get emergency services there. That is not
in my character whatsoever. I am not gonna just stand by.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
That's horrific.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
And the fact that people are willing to just stand
around and record or watch it like it's a fucking
movie play out in front of them and they don't
have any grit to go confront this dude or tackle
them to the ground, or at least go over and
offer this poor girl some help. I mean again, our

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society are we just focked? Like what is wrong with people?

Speaker 1 (53:47):
Well? No, it's events like this that make me worry,
and I think I could talk for hours about what
I think's doing it. We truly are and this is
a worldwide This isn't just here in America.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Humanism.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
We are losing our humanity through many outlets in many ways. Yeah,
when I see the Bond, the buildings systematically destroyed, and
Gaza and all the stuff coming out of there. It
doesn't matter if you support Israel or if you're pro
Palestinian this is kids, this is women, These are humans.
When I see the.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
When I see you getting gunned down because you're trying.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
To grab a bag of flower, I mean, there's no
words for that. It's not okay, No, it's not to me.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
That's not war. That's just genocide.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
And it's not just there is the some events in
Africa and some of the things going on here. We're
talking about cases here in America. It's all over the world.
It's just I don't know, dehumanization of recruation people and stuff,
and it just may And I always wonder has this
always been or do we just see it now in

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four K or ultra clear?

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Like it's gotten worse.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
I feel like the pendulum has swung back another way.
And I feel like as a world, for the most part,
we tried to do better, like you said, do better,
put the pieces back together and try keep trying. But
it's like it's swung and we have to some find
a way to stand together against all these things, these

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social issues and cultural issues and force this damn pendulum
back near the center.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Well what it muckles down to. And I'm not a
religious person, but I don't I mean, honestly, with everything
that's happening. I've really started to question, like maybe I
need to find some faith in something, right. I mean,
I think that's kind of the existential crisis a lot
of people are in, is like what you know, what's next?

(55:46):
What do I do? Where do I turn? With this
kind of thing. But at the end of the day,
it's a battle of good versus evil. And I know
that sounds so corny, but it really is. No, it's
it's a battle of pure evil and the good and
the light in the world. And I've heard people say
this and I've just been like, oh, whatever, scoffed. But

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every day I see it, and the good has to
overcome the evil, Like we have to try harder and
be better people.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
Yes's and that's the only thing you can control is yourself.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Yourself and what you do, and how you react to situations,
and how you treat people, and how you're willing to
put aside your you know, your feelings and emotions about
hot topic issues and see the humanity and other people.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Yes, right, exactly, I agree.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
I really think now we all have to hold hands
and sing kum bay y'all.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
I feel like I wish I could have a great
big kom by y'all with everybody I know of and
just a big ass circle.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
We love our Mountain Murders family. And like I said
in the beginning, like we you know, we try not
to step on toes or like offend anyone or mock
anyone's beliefs, whether it's political or you know, spiritual whatever.
But I mean, you know, they're just it comes down to,
like I said, I draw a line in the sand
with certain things, and I just want people to know

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that like we can. I think we can all do better.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
We just got to put our differences aside.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
No, and we don't want to lose friends because at.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
The end of the day, over this, this is what
the machine wants.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
That is see, that's what that's that's what it all
comes back.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
You're letting the machine control you. You are eating a
propaganda misinformation. You're just spoon feeding it. You believe everything
that you're told. You're living in an echo chamber where
everybody validates your feelings. You think you're right. You have
this sense of self righteousness that you're morally superior. And
this is on both sides of the eyes.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
We all do this.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
We all do it. You have to check to check yourself.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
You got to check yourself on that, you really do
because to say well.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
You're evil because I don't like your politics or your religions,
make can you evil?

Speaker 1 (58:01):
You know?

Speaker 3 (58:01):
I mean?

Speaker 1 (58:02):
Or yeah, that's a person.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
They have experiences different from yours. They have family, they've
been brought up in a different way. And we used
to be more I think, maybe willing to try to
accept each other's differences. There was a period where I feel, like,
you know, the nineties, early two thousands, there seemed to
be kind of an effort to make everybody like, hey,
we're all equal, we're all we can get along, we

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can be friends. No, and it's just like shifted back
to the darkest days.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
If people remember Occupy Wall Street, agree or disagree with
what was going on there, I want you to remember
how quick they squashed that, Oh they squashed it. How
quickly that was squashed and scrubbed and pushed to the side.
And I think it honestly was because the main message
was ninety nine versus the one the ninety nine percent
versus the one percent. And that's really what we have

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to keep in mind. We are the ninety nine percent.
I'm way down on hearing the percentages. But stand up,
I think, tell you, stand up. I think we all
that's what's really behind a lot of these rifts and
things like that. They've been doing it ever since I
can remember, through various means, through various issues, these wedge issues,

(59:18):
and they just keep driving that hammer on those wedges.
And it's up to us.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
And we really are surrounded by propaganda everywhere we are.
We really are, I mean, it is like mass propaganda.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
And now we're moving into a.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
We really I mean, just as a whole have got
to like step back from this bullshit and be like,
you know what, I'm not gonna let you guys control me.
I'm not gonna let this machine control me.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
Yes, you're not going to do You're not going to
determine my path because the.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Truth is, the machine don't give a fuck about you
che don't give a fuck who you vote for. It,
don't give a fuck how you feel, what your issues are,
if you think you're right or wrong, The machine's just
here to spit you up because it's all about the machine.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
Right. There is a famous speech and I don't know
if it was from Chavez.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Damn the man, Save the Empire, Dylan for those nineties
kids out.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
There talking about thrusting or flinging yourself on the wheels
and the machinations and the levers of the machine, no
matter how many it takes until you make it grind
to a halt, because you know, together is the only
way that we can ever push back against these dark forces,

(01:00:29):
right because one thing I truly believe in is energy.
Everything's energy, and I have to say, and I have
to know that there's good energy and there's bad energy,
and they certainly are at war with each other. I
have no doubt about that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Dark forces, the evil horses, they're out there. God wat man,
we've been way too preachy on this episode.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
Oh gosh, Okay, let's wrap it up.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Out there is shouting us down and somebody's like hallelujah,
And some people are just probably have tuned out my
own or ready to stop. It's okay, they don't want
to hear it anymore, Dyling.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Okay, well we'll quit for now because I can't handle anymore. Dude,
I feel like a gosh, I'm part of my brain's
going off into conspiracy theories about dark balls.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Conspiracy though, doyling, because it seems more and more and
more all these crazy, outrageous ideas that US conspiracy theorists
have had all these years are seemingly true.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
I'm thinking about mk Ultra, I'm thinking about Venturion candidates.
All these things seem to happen as just a evil,
perfect timing thing. Yeah, what the shit in hell, let's go.
I better watch what I say. We can bring dangerous conversations,
very dangerous conversations. I could say two or three sentences
that may very well have a more door turn its

(01:01:44):
eye towards us. So I prefer that not happen right now.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
I'm just gonna say this. My goal is to end
up on a watch list of some kinds.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Well, no, I have succeeded your search history alone from
your years of true criming, and that way keep brain
of yours have definitely led you to be asterisk on
many a watch list. All right, All right, so until
next time, just pull everyone around you close.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Yeah. I hate to be all corny and be like
no for real, you know, be kind and love people.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
But you know what, maybe I'm thinking about doing this.
Maybe reach out to that person you haven't talked into
a while because y'all, you're your discourse amongst you personally,
you and that person got to such a point that
you maybe threw away a friendship or a relationship. Maybe
reach out to that person and see how they're doing
and see how they react. They may tell you to

(01:02:37):
fuck off, but you know that you tried.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
There you go doing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Damn, bro, go ahead and send that shit to some
people and be like, damn dealing so smart.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
You're a guru dealing all right. You're just like a
little happy Buddha.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
You want to rub my belly? Well, yeah, you want
to wrap up in this pleasure below.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
I do very snugly.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
She's trying to fat me up for winter. I know
what's happening. She'd like, do you really need to go
to the gym? A would just get some chocolate custard.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
Look, bro, I wanted chocolate custard so badly last night.
And I'm trying so hard to be good. I stood
the line, and I'm on this fitness journey, and I'm
on this health journey. Oh my gosh. I mean I'm
working so hard, like probably harder than I've ever worked
in my whole life physically, Like just exercise trying, trying,
trying so hard to like get healthy, be healthy, and

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you know, sometimes it's very frustrating because you feel like
you're not really getting those results.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
Well, especially when you're older. Yeah, it's a lot harder
to get results. And I gotta say I was literally especially.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
When you're an older female and you know, maybe your
periment apausal and people just don't understand what it's like
to go through cube cougar puberty dealing.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
Well, I understand. I'm going through it with AH. And honestly,
you were giving me such big puppy dog guys about
Andy's chocolate customer, and I ended.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
Up just eating an apple and I was like, wow,
this is up so filling.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
At one point, I literally had the keys in here
and I was just about to tell you that I
was going to go for you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
Can we go get one right now?

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
But you you moved on. You said I'm not going
to do it because it's late and I don't need
to do that. I've been eating clean all day, and
I was proud of you, and I swim laps.

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
Yeah, like I'm on fire, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
And you know what I was saying earlier about how
you know, we love our mountain murderers.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
Folks.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
There are people I follow on Instagram and just like
watch their journeys and they're so motivating, right, Like I
can think of someone in particular, her name's Ashley, and
she's like so motivating, Like I want her to be
my like my guru because she's always posting like how
many miles she ran that day and she's like really
trying and and when I see like other people doing it,

(01:04:46):
and I'm like, Okay, I'm not alone in this. There
are other people who are trying so hard. It's so motivating.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Yeah, I got to tell you, I can't.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
I just love our listeners. They offer so they give
us so much back.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
They enrich our lives and many menia they do.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Dylan, you are so correct.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
Yes, you know what. I think. I'm going to go
rest my laurels because I've been on fucking fire today.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
Dang, look at you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
No, but thanks to everyone.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
Oh my god. Can we end the podcast with some
dumb assy Yeah, okay, what do you got? Look? I
am the first swimmer, like, I'm goofy as fuck, and
I'm not always on the top of my game, and
I am middle aged and I do have a lot
of brain fog lately, so yesterday I.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
Have this is funny.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
I had a gym bag packed right, and I had
gone to get my clothes. I knew I was gonna
swim yesterday, and so typically if I'm doing swimming, then
I swim my laps and then I will sit in
the sauna to try to help with the muscles, and
then I take a shower. I don't always take a
shower at the gym, but if it's a swim day,
I do. So I thought I had all my stuff
packed in my bag and I'm running out the door,

(01:05:59):
and I had several chores that I needed to complete,
like run to the pharmacy, swim, you know, go to
the grocery store. I had to place an order for
pickup at another store. So I'm like, okay, I got
all these errands to run. I leave, I go to
the pharmacy, and then I'm like, gonna pop by the
gym and realize I forgot my gym bag. So then

(01:06:20):
I had to drive across town, get my gym bag
from the house and leave, go to the gym, do
all my things, shower, and realize I don't have any
shorts packed in my gym bag. So all I had
was a sopping wet swimsuit that I did not want
to put on because I had just showered, right, and

(01:06:40):
it's so wet.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
It was so wet.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
Oh my gosh, just soaking wet and super strong chlorine,
and I was just like, I don't want to put this,
and you know how horrible it is to try to
put something wet back on.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Oh yeah, well you kind of spawned out in one
of those things, right, I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
But I wasn't thinking about that at the time. I
was just freaking out because I'm like, oh my god,
I don't have shorts. I had everything else. I had socks,
I had a T shirt. Fortunately I had one of
your old T shirts so it was a little longer.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
So you literally don't have shorts or underware.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
No, I had underwear, Like I said, I have everything,
sports bra, I got all my stuff, but I do
not have any shorts. And so I'm like contemplating I
can either put on this wet ass swimsuit and then
drive home with this wet swimsuit on, like it just
did not sound and it's hot outside and I knew
the car seat would be hot. And I was just like,
oh gosh, like that is horrible. What am I gonna do?

(01:07:31):
And freaking out, and so finally I was just like
fuck it, and I got I'm just gonna have to leave.
So I walked out of the gym with no shorts on,
like pantiless, and I had my gym bag that kind
of hung low enough that I feel like maybe it
kind of covered my rear end. The T shirt was
pretty long, and I had my towel that I just

(01:07:52):
sort of folded and carried in my arms on the
way out, so that it was kind of long. And
so I was thinking, maybe at best people will assume
that I have on a swim like I have my
swimsuit on under this and just a baggy T shirt
and I'm walking out and no one will know I'm
in my drawers.

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
Oh man, they probably discussed. So is that you see
that lady just leaving her underwear?

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
She say that naked lady.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
The woman damn called a police.

Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
Oh my gosh, speaking I told you, and you were
you thought it was hilarious.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
No, it was. It was hilarious. It sounds like something
I would do.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
And I'd been here twice to get the damn gym bag, right,
And it never dawned on me I didn't have bottoms
in the bag.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
It's bottomless, bottomless, Heather, I.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
Guess Southern exposures. Southern exposure, y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
All right, so we're gonna leave on that. Yeah, we are.
We love everybody, and stay safe and until next time,
bring your pants. That's right, Bye bye,