1730 - "Pam Bondage" - No Agenda Show

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I mean, who needs to be a coot?
Adam Curry, John C.
Devorah It's Thursday, January 16th, 2025, this is
your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode
1730 This is no agenda Back to watching
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of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA
Region No.

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6 In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry
And from Northern Silicon Valley where I can
tell the U.S. Senators that Pam Bondage
will not answer questions about the 2020 election
I'm John C.
Devorah It's Crackpot and Buzzkill In the morning
Did you call her Pam Bondage?
Yeah It's a yes or no question Mr.

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Devorah, yes or no, I'll take that as
a no I love, I love that gag
It's always great These guys It's a yes
or no question Yes or no Well, you
know what I noticed during these hearings?
I'll take that as a no I'll take
that as a no You know what I
noticed during these hearings?

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Something has shifted The, it's like something is
The veneer has come off And somehow just
nobody cares about the shows that these, it's
all the same Everyone's seen it so many
times The people being questioned aren't rattled by
it anymore It's just They refuse to answer

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questions that they don't want to answer It's
just broken And then they fall into great
line With the people It's like Pam Bondage
is a great example I love her new
name by the way It's very creative It's
befitting Very creative, yes You know I looked
into her, besides being very accomplished She's a
tri-delt No, no I was just trying

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to describe her to Mimi I said well
she's, for one thing She just looks and
acts like a sorority girl Uh huh Completely,
and she's like But you also get the
And she's pretty, and she's very Telegenic, that's
the key For Trump's picks, telegen Telegenetic And
so she's Telegenetic, she's old She's 50, well

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old Not compared to me But she's 59
And she's a tri-delt And so I
We have to Explain this in a way
This is a sorority that all the babes
Go to when they're in certain Colleges, it's
one of the Probably has the most pretty

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Mean girls For our non-American Listeners, it's
pretty much Every American movie you've seen about
a college Or a university, where the hot
girl Will never sleep with a nerd Tri
-delt That's it And so she's that type,
but she's been around long Enough now that
she's Seems like the kind of woman that

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would stab you Oh in a heartbeat Yeah,
you just look at her And you just
see that you could Cross-eyed You're gonna
get shivved You know what I like Just
from a television production standpoint As we talk
as executive producers Of this clear production That
is always taking place during these scenarios Every

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single time She battered her eyes, my hair
actually Blew back Did you see She did
something with her eyelashes That was outrageous It
was really funny She was, but she was
Holding up against the door The dips from
the Democrats Their concentration was on Do you

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deny You would tell Trump to deny That
he lost in 2020 That's all they were
Preoccupied about So I have to assume Because
she refused to go Into that at all
Well she did her little tricky lawyer bit
Where, Joe Biden's president She did all the

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lawyer tricks But the way she did it
It's as though they all think And I
think they might be right She's gonna go
look into it A lot of people don't
like her They don't like her background They
don't like what she's did in the past
She's not necessarily a MAGA favorite Just FYI

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No she's not She's not a MAGA favorite
I gotta admit I think she'll be hilarious
for us I think she's gonna be the
best Yeah this is good for our last
Our final four And the thing about Julia
It's like she takes Someone could describe her
as she takes no prisoners I don't think

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so I think she takes prisoners Yeah That
was good Of course we're all really waiting
for the big one Which will be RFK
There was one moment that I just really
liked During Hegseth's Hegseth's Confirmation That was the

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Senator from Oklahoma The one who jumped on
the Democrats Yes With the lecture Yeah I
got it There's a lot of talk going
about You know of course Pete Hegseth He's
a drunk He's a womanizer Another very telegenic
male Very telegenic male He's just no good

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And then we get the lecture He's got
weird tattoos Weird tattoos All over your chest
This will not stand You know there's a
lot of talk going about Talking about qualifications
and then about us Hold on a second
Since a troll mentioned it He is on
deck to be President Trump's secretary of defense

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Right So he will be running the war
department You know there's a lot of talk
going about Talking about qualifications and then About
us hiring him if we are the board
But there's a lot of senators here I
wouldn't have on my board But let me
read you what the qualifications of the secretary
of defense is Because I googled it And
I googled it and went through a lot
of different sites And really it's hard to

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see but in general The U.S. secretary
of defense position is filled by a civilian
That's it If you have served in the
U.S. Army Forces And have been in
the service for You have to be retired
for at least 7 years He needed to
have like a little rim shot machine And
congress can weigh that And then there's questions

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that The senator from Virginia Starts bringing up
the fact that What if he showed up
drunk to your job How many senators have
showed up drunk To vote at night Have
any of you guys asked him To step
down and resign from their job And don't
tell me you haven't seen it Because I
know you have And then how many senators

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do you know Have gotten a divorce before
cheating on their wives Did you ask them
to step down No But it's for show
You guys make sure you make a big
show And point out the hypocrisy Because a
man's made a mistake And you want to
sit there And say that he's not qualified
Give me a joke That was too bad

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He ruined the whole bit by screwing up
that one line Yeah give me a joke
he said I mean what a joke Give
me a break Give me a beat Not
give me a joke That's an instance where
I think he was caught Between those two
lines Those exact two lines you suggested Which
was give me a break Or what a

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joke or whatever the other line was And
he got stuck That's crazy He got stuck
in the middle And came up with that
stupidity That was too bad I feel the
same way I do have a France 24
Overview of Hegseth To see how the NATO
countries View him Which I think will be

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worth listening to On Tuesday Donald Trump's nominee
for defense secretary Faced the senate committee test
With validating his appointment He was cheered into
the room by supporters But when he sat
down Pete Hegseth took quite a kicking Over
his advocacy in favor of Practices classes What
is this he took quite a kicking What
is that all about France 24 Is this

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a phrase I haven't heard Well it's French
English I guess When he sat down Pete
Hegseth took quite a kicking Over his advocacy
in favor of Practices classes torture And championing
convicted war criminals As well as his alleged
financial mismanagement And personal misconduct At the helm
of two veterans advocacy groups When called upon

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to make his case to the committee The
Iraq war veteran And former Fox News presenter
suggested The Pentagon under Joe Biden Had fallen
into decay As I've said to many of
you in private meetings When President Trump chose
me for this position The primary charge he
gave me Was to bring the warrior culture
Back to the Department of Defense He like
me wants a Pentagon Laser focused On lethality,

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meritocracy War fighting, accountability And readiness There's Code
Pink yelling in the background Code Pink always
You can always hire Code Pink to come
and demonstrate His call for meritocracy A rallying
cry against the diversity initiatives He says have
weakened The U.S. military He has even

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gone so far as to say Women should
not take part in combat And faced allegations
of sexual assault A record not lost On
Democratic lawmakers Or on hecklers at his hearing
You are a misogynist Not only that you
are a Pussy In recent months he has
also been plagued I think the guy said
you're a misogynist Not only that but a
Christian nationalist Something like that Pussy What no

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he didn't say pussy Christian nationalist Reports that
he was regularly drunk While appearing on Fox
and Friends A Fox News show that Donald
Trump Regularly phoned into By the way I
think all the Fox News hosts Should do
the shows drunk That would improve the channel
Imagine Judge Jeanine Hammered she'd be great The

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Democrats on their own Will be unable to
prevent Hegseth's appointment Without some Republican senators Breaking
ranks to oppose him Yeah so what I've
heard is that The donors The donors and
the donors Have all said to these Republican
senators If you don't confirm Trump's Nominees We're

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going to primary you You'll regret the day
I think that makes sense Did you see
any Republicans Dissent No The closest anyone came
was Joni Ernst With Hegseth In particular While

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during the hearing She did relent and said
she's gonna support him But she wasn't going
to initially But again Like you said Maybe
somebody knocked on her door A phone call
From Miss Joni Hello Miss Joni Joni Ernst
is interesting because From Iowa She was The

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hard ass right left I'm sorry the hard
ass right winger When she ran for the
first time if you remember She had the
guns And she was shooting Made a big
fuss about the fact that she was a
tough chick And then And pretty And a
pretty tough chick Yeah she's no tri-delta
No that's for sure But she had I

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think she's been Compromised because she has Become
kind of Made to vote Against Republican interests
I'm just thinking Now I have a few
confirmation Clips Now I have the Pam Bondi
Clip of Say her name right Pam Bondi

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She is This is not a background This
is an actual hearing clip Only part of
a long long Clip This is Holly Who
is Doing what all the Republicans Did showboating
Yeah To an extreme but this particular Point

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that he's making Here after already He's already
showboated for 5 minutes Not really asking her
anything Just going on and on and on
About you know this and that But this
little episode here I thought was kind of
interesting Because he got her to I mean
she When there was a Republican she said

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Whatever you want Whatever you want oh yeah
for sure Say yes or no question Ms.
Bondage So she So we have but this
is kind of an Interesting little aside This
is about the Catholics And Holly is all
over this and I think this is Actually
kind of interesting I'm sure you've read about

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this memo Which I now hold in my
hands This memo that was It's like at
this hour I now hold this memo in
my hands Like really that you're right right
off the bat Showboating I hold it in
my hands America I'm sure you've read about
This memo which I now hold in my
hands This memo that was Developed by the

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FBI Field office in Richmond Virginia 23rd January
2023 Targeting Catholic parishes For spying For recruitment
of infiltrators I mean the memo goes on
And on and on And on about the
FBI's To put assets into Catholic Parishes into
choirs Choirs?

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Unbelievable Gotta get those pedos Choirs is the
word that got me Putting them in the
choir Anybody here in the office Can sing?
Anyone can sing?
Your in here's your assignment You know Was
it only about Catholics?
I thought it was just all Christian Church's
period.

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I don't remember.
No, the memo he has is specific to
Catholics, but he goes on and discusses the
fact that it turns out that they were
targeting all Christians.
Okay, all right, and it is the memo
he has in his hands right now.
In his hands, he's holding the memo, and
when he says on and on and on,
this memo's about a six-page memo.
Wouldn't it be great if Sarah Adams had

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showed up in the choir?
This is an unbelievable assault on Americans' First
Amendment rights, and we only know of it
because of a brave whistleblower who came forward
and released it to us, and I will
tell you, I have never been misled and
lied to like I was by the current

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Attorney General and the now former FBI director
when they sat right where you're sitting now
and told this committee, oh, we don't know
anything about it.
Oh, only one field office was involved.
It was the single work of a single
field office and a very few individuals.
As it turns out, that's not true.
Did anyone tell him that Trump already won
the election?
That the good guys are coming in?

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You know, I mean, is this very necessary,
what he's doing?
Yeah, it is for him, because he has
to get his showboating in.
You know, he's one of the better ones.
Oh, and when it comes to showboating, he's
great.
Yeah, there's no doubt, there's no doubt.
Very entertaining.
As it turns out, that's not true.
Multiple field offices were involved.
Multiple individuals were involved.

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Under your leadership, will you put a stop
to the use of FBI or Department of
Justice resources to try and recruit informants and
spies into Christian churches or any church or
house of worship in this country on the
basis of nothing more than faith?
It's a yes or no question.
Well, let me think.

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No, I think I'll continue with the spying
on the Christians.
That sounded like a really good idea, Senator.
Of course, Senator.
Let me just say this.
To our knowledge, no one who was involved
in the writing and performance execution of this
memo has been disciplined or fired.
Ah, we'll use discipline them.

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Will you spank them with a hairbrush, bristle
side down?
Will you conduct an investigation like you talked
about, Ms. Bondi, that will get to the
bottom of abuses like this?
And to be clear, this is an outrageous
abuse.
It is an outrageous abuse.
One of the worst abuses of Department of
Justice and FBI authority in our history.

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Really, is it worse than the January 6th
people?
It's outrageous!
Will you conduct an investigation to find out
who signed off on this, who approved it,
who advocated for it within the Department of
Justice?
Will you open the books on these abuses
so that the American people can have confidence
in their DOJ?
Yeah.

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Senator, and I think what you're talking about
is the ultimate weaponization, what we've been discussing
all day.
If I am confirmed as Attorney General, one
of the first things I will do, there'll
be many.
Laugh Tale?
What's the Laugh Tale about, Bondi?
One of the first things I will do.

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Senator, and I think what you're talking about
is the ultimate weaponization, what we've been discussing
all day.
If I am confirmed as Attorney General, one
of the first things I will do, there'll
be many.
But I will personally read that memo, and
if Mr. Patel is confirmed, discuss it with
him right away.
We're gonna get you.

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That's what that Laugh Tale was.
We're gonna get you.
We're coming for you, Stooges.
Yep.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, that's good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Now here's the, here's the clip that is...
I have to say, it's entertaining.
C-SPAN becomes entertaining once every cycle, four
years, and it's just kind of cool to

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watch.
You know, you can leave it on all
day, and like...
You know, it's not as clippable as I'd
like.
That clip was too long.
Too long.
Well, that's why I interrupted it a lot,
to move it along.
But it's like, all of them are that
way, and it's really only part of about
an eight...
They're supposed to give them five minutes, but
they go seven, eight.
Yeah.
Who was in charge?

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Was it Republican chairman?
No.
Well, it's a Senate hearing, so you end
up with Kamala.
It should have been Kamala.
No, no.
She's only a tiebreaker.
Oh, okay.
The hearing she did, she had nothing to
do with hearings.
So let's go to...
This is the Bondi BS summary clip.

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Pam Bondi, Trump's pick for attorney general after
Matt Gaetz stepped down from consideration, had her
confirmation hearing this Wednesday, a very partisan hearing
with Senate Republicans highlighting the need for reform
within the Justice Department and Senate Democrats, grilling
Pam Bondi over her involvement in the election

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fraud claims that the Trump campaign made back
in 2021.
Ms. Bondi is highly qualified.
And of course, as we all know, a
change is desperately needed.
It is critical that any nominee for this
position be committed first and foremost to the

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Constitution and the American people.
Not to the president.
Not any president or political agenda.
But President Trump claims he has, quote, an
absolute right to do what he wants with
the Justice Department.
And that's how he conducted his first term.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
He had that well under control during the

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first term, didn't he?
Really under control.
Yeah.
That's hilarious.
That's hilarious.
So then another guy that the one that
got through that didn't get much discussion, but
I ended up getting the clips because I
know it wasn't going to be part of
it.
Rubio.
Rubio just waltz.
Oh, yeah.
No, they love the Rubes.
They like Rubio a lot because they think

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that because of that one, I think the
Democrats still hearken back to Rubio and the
small hands joke.
And the water and the water splashing.
And yeah.
And so because Rubio was, you know, he's
the only guy who could actually handle Trump.
He stood up to him.
He stood up to him.

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He stood up to him.
These are tiny.
The tiny hands of material was quite good.
It's stuck.
Do we still have those clips?
Let me see.
Tiny hands.
And he was getting big laughs.
Yeah, but he got pushback, I think, from
his own people.
Hey, don't try to be so funny because
Rubio is actually pretty funny.
Well, he was a cabaret dancer, so he

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comes from show business.
He was a male stripper.
I don't think we have that documented, but
it seems that he probably was.
He comes from show business, so he understands.
He's in the same camp as, as I
would say, McCrone and Zelensky.
And Zelensky.

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No, Trudeau and Zelensky in particular.
Yeah, Zelensky is a male stripper.
So let's listen to these things on Rubio.
This is a confirmation Rubio anal.
Your clip title.
That means analysis.
Yes.
I'm well aware.
It's still disturbing.
Joining us now to react to the confirmation

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hearing for Marco Rubio is Armen Kurdian, U
.S. Navy captain and political strategist.
Armen, thank you so much for joining us.
Good to see you again.
Now, to begin, how do you think the
confirmation hearing for Marco Rubio went today?
I think Marco Rubio is a brilliant individual.
Good afternoon, Tiffany.
And I think he has.
Hey, that's, that's, that's an interesting way of

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doing it.
You just answer the question, then you throw
in the end.
How are you doing?
Went today.
I think Marco Rubio is a brilliant individual.
Yeah, it's like, yes, I've never, now that
you mention it, that's a stylistic difference.
I've not heard anyone do.
I like it.
I like it.
You hit the ground running.
So the.
Because most of the guys, I noticed this

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when you hit the show, the five that
always has the one Democrat in there.
Yeah.
They always say thanks for, they always do
the thank you, I'm glad to be here,
blah, blah, blah, at the very beginning.
Yeah, like.
And it kind of, it doesn't get, it's,
you're right, this structure is better.
Yes, I think that NPR should start doing
this.
They're never going to do anything.

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Marco Rubio is a brilliant individual.
And I think he has already gotten a
lot of positive accolades from his colleagues on
both sides of the aisle.
He has a very strong grasp of the
of the issues that face this country and
has is very intelligent, very well-spoken and
also very well-rounded.

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And I think he's to get a lot
of Democrats to vote for him when this
is all done and said.
To your point, it does seem this was
the friendliest of the confirmation hearings so far.
Now, Rubio said in his opening statement, quote,
the 21st century will be defined by what
happens between the United States and China.
How do you see relations between the US
and China going forward under President Trump and

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Rubio as secretary of state?
It needs to be a lot more frank,
a lot more direct.
China has been taking advantage of the United
States in a lot of different ways.
You know, we know a lot of the
issues they have with trade.
But of course, the intellectual intellectual property theft,
especially from our defense industry, if you just
look at a lot of their mainline aircraft,

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their submarines and their systems and equipments, it
very much is similar to our own.
So that's a problem needs to stop.
Also, a lot of these cyber attacks, which,
you know, the Chinese government says it wasn't
us, but I'm certain it was a lot
of their proxies or perhaps, you know, some
kind of public private partnership that's going after
the United States.
We're going to have to get a lot

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more aggressive with this kind of thing.
China has said they want to be ready
to have a military that could mobilize and,
say, take Taiwan by the year 2027.
That's going to happen during the next administration.
And China has been building a lot of
missiles, a lot of other weapons that could
actually make that happen.
And in a lot of the scenarios, the
war games that the US fights against a

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virtual Chinese adversary, the US does not do
well and doesn't always win.
Yeah, this is why everybody loves him, because
he's he's rattling the cage for China.
But we already know the asphalt guys are
laying down runways.
The ship builders are getting ready to build
a big, beautiful, beautiful ships.
This is what everybody wants.
Everybody wants to go against China.

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So, yeah, he's the perfect guy.
He gets it.
There was a report that was I haven't
heard any, any clips from, but it was
a written report on how China has just
produced 1 million drones.

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Yeah, wouldn't surprise me.
That's, that's an interesting force.
Because if you had a million, then you're
not talking about 20 or five, or a
couple of drones coming over, we're talking about
a million.
If you had a million drones attack a,
anything, it could cause a lot of damage.

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Yeah, a million drones, not even with bombs
on them just coming at you, you know,
that DJI dropped their automatic no fly zone
capability in their drones.
So no longer are they geo fenced, you'll
get a warning, if you're flying your drone
near no fly zone, but it won't automatically

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stay away from it, which I thought was
an interesting move by the company.
That's it.
That is interesting.
I'm not sure why other than, you know,
putting the responsibility back onto the operator where
it ultimately belongs.
But I think we're going to see a
lot more drones where they're not supposed to
be because of this.

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Yeah, I would think so too.
Let's go flip to Rubio.
Now during Senator Rubio's hearing, the news broke
that Israel and Hamas had agreed to the
ceasefire and hostage deal.
Now Rubio didn't have a comment on that
at the time.
Now the former IDF spokesperson saying on CNN
last night that with Trump's threat that there
would be held to pay if hostages weren't

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released by the time he returned to office,
no party wanted to be the spoil the
deal.
What do you make of the argument that
Trump was the driving force behind this deal?
I think it's absolutely correct because that is
a change in the calculus for Hamas.
That is a big thing that changed on
November 5th following the election.
And I think it also has to do

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a lot more with how Trump handled the
nation of Iran during his administration and will
do the same thing again.
So Iran is perhaps hopeful that if they
can compel Hamas to surrender, and I can't
believe for a second that Iran hasn't been
working behind the scenes telling Hamas that you
guys need to let the hostages go or
it's going to be really, really bad for
us, that this is a big impetus and

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a big reason why this has happened.
As for the rest of the structure of
the deal in terms of the number of
hostages that are going to be released, the
number of prisoners that can be released, Israel's
withdrawal from the Gaza Strip, I think baby
steps are good.
What I also heard was that initially it
would be nine hostages for 110 prisoners, Palestinian

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prisoners that came from a Hamas spokesman.
Well, I don't know if that's entirely accurate,
but regardless of what the number is, it's
substantive and it's tangible.
And I think Israel itself is also, they
are strained fighting this war as well.
It has taken an immense toll on them.
So I'm sure there's a lot of folks
who are eager on the Israeli side to
see this war end.
Before we get to that, I want to

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play the money shot from Rubio because he
did have a money shot.
He had a money shot.
And this is the Rubio money shot that
got him confirmed.
During a friendly hearing in front of a
committee where he has worked for 14 years,
Marco Rubio set out his worldview to fellow
senators defending Trump's policy of America first.

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Trump's nominee for secretary of state described China
as America's Communist Party of China is that
leads PRC is the most potent and dangerous
near peer adversary this nation has ever confronted.
If we stay on the road we're on
right now, in less than 10 years, virtually
everything that matters to us in life will

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depend on whether China will allow us to
have it or not.
He pledged to boost defenses of Taiwan, the
self governing democratic island that Beijing claims as
its own to avoid what he called a
cataclysmic military intervention.
Rubio also criticized President Biden's recent decision to
remove Cuba from a list of terrorism sponsors
and hinted that he would reverse the move.
Whereas Trump has sparked anger overseas by threatening

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to withdraw from NATO, Rubio distanced himself from
talk of pulling out of the alliance.
Speaking about the war in Ukraine, which Trump
pledged to end within a day of taking
office, the senator insisted that both Russia and
Ukraine would need to make concessions to halt
the fighting.
This war has to end.
And I think it should be the official
policy of the United States that we want
to see it end.

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Now what that master plan looks like is
going to be hard work.
This is not going to be an easy
endeavor.
But it's going to require bold diplomacy.
And my hope is that it can begin
with some ceasefire.
That's a shown up money shot.
Jesus.
Yeah, China the money shot.
It's good.
But none of that none of that excited

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people as much as the big announcement about
the inauguration.
You hear about the big announcement?
Well, before you get off track, we might
as well play this last clip.
But the big announcement?
No, I'll wait.
I'll wait.
Carrie Underwood's gonna sing?
No.
Or the YMCA or the village people?

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Widely considered a gay anthem from the 1970s,
the pop hit YMCA has been following Donald
Trump.
In rally after rally, it's catchy chorus or
the incoming president let loose during the campaign.
Now the village people have confirmed they will
be performing at one of Trump's inaugural balls
and a gathering he's holding in Washington the

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day before he's sworn in.
He'll be performing at his inaugural ball.
So they had they had to go grab
the you know, these guys are retired.
So they had to put the group back
together.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, I think one of them's dead.
I think it's put him up there.
I think the cowboys did one of the
one of them passed away, I think.
Yeah, let's get back to this.

(30:45):
This is the last clip of the Rubio
series.
I do want to mention something that's not
in here.
But when they talked about number of hostages
released, the number that finally three.
Yep.
33.
We know it's code.
That means it's over, boys.
It means something.
End of op, end of op, end of
op, end of op.

(31:05):
33 could be like it.
Yes.
Because, yeah, yeah, yeah.
End of op.
All right.
What's your final Rubio clip?
It's the same confirmation.
Rubio three.
Oh, got it.
Now, when it comes to Europe, Rubio said
in terms of Russia and Ukraine, quote, there
will have to be concessions made, adding this
conflict needs to end.

(31:27):
What changes might we see in terms of
the Russia-Ukraine war under this new administration?
It's going to be very hard to say.
Donald Trump, as I've said many times, is
very, very transactional.
Where we are right now, basically when Donald
Trump takes office on January 20th, everything that
happened beforehand is a sunk cost.
There's nothing that he can do about it

(31:48):
to change.
Considering the amount of territory that Ukraine has
lost to Russia, it's I don't know how
Ukraine is going to be able to take
it all back.
It's going to be an exceptional challenge.
At the same time, Russia is also at
its limit in terms of its wartime economy.
I don't know how much longer they can
continue on with the war.
Ukraine is also suffering an incredible strain as

(32:09):
well.
I think in the end, whether or not
we like it, Russia may end up with
a part of Ukraine.
They may get a lot of what they
want.
But hopefully Trump and the Western powers can
perhaps exert more threats or perhaps show, say,
hey, if you don't take, say, perhaps half
a loaf, if you will, use that kind

(32:30):
of an example, say, you know, some of
the territory that they managed to capture instead
of all of it, that the allies, the
Western powers are going to come in even
stronger to support Ukraine.
And frankly, there's a lot of things that
went wrong all the way up to this.
This war should never have happened in the
first place.
We were too slow to give them military
aid.
Congress was very slow to act on times,

(32:52):
engaging in politics, a six month delay in
terms of getting Ukraine the artillery it needs.
We didn't ramp up in terms of manufacturing
the artillery it needs.
So a lot of that also lies on
us in terms of where the situation is.
So we are, I think, just as much
to blame for preventing this war as Russia
is from starting.
Yeah.
Who was that guy?

(33:12):
Blah, blah, blah.
So before you jump ahead, he did mention
Trump doing stuff right away.
Have you heard the tiny desk story?
I don't, I don't know.
Here, play the clip.
You'll get a kick out of it.
Trump and the tiny desk.
Oh, OK.
It's like a tiny desk story.

(33:33):
Here we go.
On the campaign trail, Trump joked he'd have
a tiny desk next to the inauguration podium
so he could start signing executive orders immediately
after his speech.
While there hasn't been an official announcement about
that, the soon to be president is expected
to sign numerous executive orders in the first
few hours and days of his next administration.

(33:54):
It may be the biggest day of executive
order signing in American history.
I've heard it's going to be a hundred.
Yeah, a hundred.
That's what the number is.
But the tiny desk.
What a tiny desk.
I doubt it.
Sit down right away and start signing.
I heard he was going to start signing
from the steps on the way in the

(34:16):
limo back to the White House.
They were going to start signing him in
the car with his tiny desk as good.
We do.
We do have breaking news at this hour,
John.
Breaking news at this hour.
Breaking.
Well, good morning.
Earlier today, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said
Hamas objected to Israel's ability to stop the
release of certain prisoners.

(34:37):
However, the deal isn't a sure thing with
Israel this morning, saying it wouldn't ratify the
deal until Hamas stops a backtracking on already
agreed upon details.
But this is the closest the two sides
have come in months, and there is hope
it will come to fruition.
Hamas is still holding nearly 100 people hostage,
including some Americans.
The news is welcome across America as we

(34:59):
are finally getting Americans returned, just as there's
excitement in Israel to get some of their
hostages home.
Of course, everyone was all giddy about the
question that was asked of President Biden, if
if he's taking credit for something Trump did.
Yeah, I thought classic.
Yeah, I thought CBC did a pretty good

(35:21):
job.
Thank you for this, Mr. President, you or
Trump?
The ink on the deal was still drying
and outgoing President Joe Biden was facing questions
about who should get the credit.
Is that a joke?
That's not a joke.
No joke.
After all, incoming President Donald Trump posted on
social media moments after the news broke, claiming
credit and not even mentioning his predecessor.

(35:42):
This epic ceasefire agreement could have only happened
as a result of our historic victory in
November, he wrote.
Qatar's Prime Minister Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdul Rahman
Al Thani was asked about the U.S.
role in shaping the final agreement.
I can say that what we have seen
from the U.S. in the past few
days, seeing a collaboration transcending both administrations was

(36:08):
a clear demonstration for the commitment of the
U.S. to reach to that deal.
Biden says getting the deal done was one
thing.
Seeing it through will require yet more work.
This deal was developed and negotiated under my
administration, but its terms will be implemented for
the most part by the next administration.

(36:29):
In these past few days, we've been speaking
as one team.
The deal's three phases will each offer tricky
obstacles and stumbling blocks.
And United Nations Secretary General António Guterres says
the ceasefire deal is only the first step.
The humanitarian situation is at catastrophic levels.
It's burning.
And I call on all parties to facilitate

(36:50):
the rapid and indirect and safe humanitarian relief
for all civilians in need.
So that's our reporting.
That's reporting from our 51st state, Canada.
The French were a little more gracious.
Scenes of jubilation and relief in Gaza as
news spreads of a ceasefire agreement following months

(37:12):
of fruitless talks.
One key upcoming change has forced negotiations to
pick up pace in recent weeks, the return
of Donald Trump.
The U.S. president had been regularly demanding
the release of all hostages in Gaza and
sent his new envoy Steve Witkoff to the
region to put pressure on the Truce talks
mediators.

(37:32):
If those hostages aren't back, I don't want
to hurt your negotiation.
If they're not back by the time I
get into office, all hell will break out
in the Middle East.
Experts say their efforts have paid off.
The deal will go into implementation the day
before President Trump's inauguration.
So undoubtedly there is this Trump effect.

(37:53):
You know, many people I talk to in
Israel would say that the most popular politician
in Israel is Donald Trump.
And that gives him quite a bit of
leverage over the Israeli prime minister.
The Israeli prime minister was also pressed to
come to the negotiating table as the political
situation within his government deteriorates.
Two of Netanyahu's key coalition partners have opposed

(38:15):
the truce.
Far-right finance minister Bez Semel Smotrich and
national security minister Itamar Ben-Gavir threatened to
pull their parties out of the coalition unless
fighting in Gaza resumed after the hostages return.
Though Netanyahu's government has a majority to approve
the ceasefire deal, the prime minister seeks to
keep his government afloat.

(38:36):
Israeli media report he has offered potential gains
for the far-right in exchange for them
remaining in his coalition, including a settlement construction
in the West Bank and boosted security.
Very odd.
I thought everyone knows the Jews control Trump.
It's so odd.
Yeah, it's so odd.
I have two clips on the same thing.
Only mine are from once from NTD.

(38:58):
Well, there's the NTD is the best one,
but let's start with the ceasefire, the NPR,
because you play some elaborate clips from foreign
sources.
What does the NPR do?
Let me guess, somebody with a British accent?
Not necessarily.
After more than 15 months of war, the
United States says Israel and Hamas have reached

(39:19):
a ceasefire deal.
NPR's Eya Betrawi reports the agreement is set
to begin on Sunday, giving the Israeli government
time to approve the deal.
This is a complex and fragile deal carried
out in stages, starting with a six week
pause in hostilities and Israeli airstrikes on Gaza,
which health officials there say have killed tens

(39:40):
of thousands of people, including more than 14
,000 children in the war.
33 hostages or around a third of those
held by Hamas in Gaza will be released
in exchange for many Palestinians held by Israel
in this first phase.
Qatar's Prime Minister Sheikh Mohammed al-Thani told
reporters the deal aims to end the war.
I believe that it all depends on the

(40:01):
parties of the agreement and acting in good
faith.
He says the agreement also allows for displaced
Palestinians to return to Gaza City and other
areas in the north, though most of Gaza
has been turned to rubble.
Who was the rubble?
You get the return to rubble.
So that was, you know, that's about as
vanilla as you can get.

(40:21):
Pretty much.
Told us nothing, nothing interesting whatsoever.
But there we have the NTD for our
NTD folks.
The New Tang Dynasty had this report.
A ceasefire between Israel and Hamas has been
announced.
President elect Trump first broke the news in
a post on Truth Social, saying the ceasefire
agreement had been reached and that the hostages
would be released shortly.

(40:43):
And it is a Jason Perry has the
details.
Residents in the Gaza Strip were seen celebrating
on Wednesday, many of them anticipating that a
ceasefire would happen soon.
And it did, according to what President elect
Trump posted on Truth Social.
Trump said that a deal in the Middle
East had been reached and that the hostages

(41:04):
would be released shortly.
Trump's announcement of the ceasefire came just a
week after he said, quote, all hell will
break out in the Middle East if the
hostages aren't released by the time he takes
office.
Qatar, which has been mediating the talks, also
announced the news on Wednesday.
Qatar's prime minister, who is also the country's
foreign minister, said the ceasefire is set to

(41:26):
begin on Sunday, January 19th, one day before
Trump takes office.
He gave further details at the briefing, which
were heard through an interpreter.
The phase one of the agreement will go
on for 42 days and it will include
a ceasefire and the withdrawal of Israeli forces
to the east away from populated areas.

(41:46):
Israeli forces will then be positioned along the
Gaza border and which will allow for the
swap of prisoners as well as the swap
of remains and the return of the displaced
people to their residences.
He said that 33 hostages would be released.
But he did not say how many Palestinian
prisoners would be released.

(42:07):
President Biden, however, said hundreds of Palestinian prisoners
were going to be released.
And he added this.
The elements of this deal for what I
laid out in detail this past May, which
was embraced by countries around the world and
endorsed overwhelmingly by the U.N. Security Council.

(42:28):
Yeah.
All right.
All right.
I think I think I've had it now.
I think I've had it.
Let's move on to something more exciting, something
more exciting, which is also taking place on
Monday, because we know why, because we know
nobody cares about 33 hostages.
We care about tick tock.
That's what we all care about.

(42:48):
Tick tock.
And I have a clip and I think
you have a couple to do this morning.
President-elect Donald Trump may be planning to
keep tick tock alive in the U.S.
Keep it alive for National Security Advisor for
Representative Mike Walz says Trump is exploring options
to preserve the popular app, which is set
to shut down in the U.S. come
Monday.
Waltz added that Trump sees tick tocks economic

(43:10):
value and could implement an executive order to
suspend enforcement of a federal law that would
ban the app.
The Supreme Court appears poised to uphold the
law, which requires tick tocks, Chinese parent company
ByteDance to divest on national security grounds or
the app to be banned.
But this news overnight adds to all the
speculation.
Xu Chu, the CEO of tick tock, plans

(43:31):
to be at Trump's inauguration at the invitation
of the Trump Fans Inaugural Committee, and it's
expected to sit in a position of honor
on the dais, along with a number of
other tech billionaires.
What is so interesting is friends of mine,
good friends who know who should know the
truth.
They all believe they really believe that tick

(43:52):
tock is spying on them more than any
other app.
I'm flummoxed by this.
And another thing I'd like to point out,
everyone like, oh, the tick tock algo, the
algorithm.
Oh, the algorithm.
The algo is what makes you think they're
spying on you.
Oh, that's a good point.
Whereas the algo, it is the simplest algo

(44:12):
in the world.
We've already been through this.
There must be something more to it.
And I think I think I think that
it's not the algo as much as it
is the ability to categorize the videos in
such a way that the algo can do
what it does.
Yes.
And what I think that's the level of
difficulty that's not being discussed.

(44:33):
Well, I don't think it's difficult because they
don't use a lot of hashtags in tick
tock.
It's just you have somebody going on ranting
about something or other that, oh, yeah, Kamala
is going to be president.
And then you start watching that and they
get another one and another one and another
one.
How do they manage to categorize these videos
to make them show up one after the
other?

(44:53):
That is the key to their success that
is not being discussed.
There's a lot of Chinese and they're sitting
there all day long tagging videos for Indians.
I mean, we could shift it to anonymous.
Oh, this is the same as this one.
Let's put them in the same pot.
But it truly is the success.
I'll just reiterate American algorithms, particularly in our

(45:16):
social media realms.
They always want to inject strife like, ah,
yeah, let's throw get people commenting and get
them mad at each other.
The tick tock algo is like you like
food.
Here's food.
You like Republicans.
Here's Republicans.
They don't throw anything adverse in there.

(45:37):
They get so that you actually think.
Remember, we were getting emails from people.
Yeah.
The reason they want tick tock gone is
because that's where all the MAGA people are.
No, all the MAGA people got all the
MAGA people in the algo.
All the the Delulu's got all the Delulu's
in the from the algo.
And you're probably right that it's the way

(45:58):
they categorize or tag the content.
And I wouldn't put it past them that
there's a lot of people whose only job
it is, is to tag videos.
That has to be it.
There's no machine way of doing this.
And it's not a hashtag oriented system.
So you can't just look at the hashtag.
Oh, here's another one.
That you might be right.

(46:20):
It could be a thousands of thousands of
people that are.
Oh, God, what a job that would be.
Oh, my God.
You have to watch one after another and
then figure out where it fits into the
scheme of things.
It's a lot more fun than trying to,
you know, trying to police people.
You know, just what is this about?
Oh, boom.
Click Republican.
What is this about?
Oh, food.
Boom.
What is about watermelons?

(46:41):
Boom.
Watermelons.
It's easy as long as you have enough
people.
Now, I have two boots on the ground
reports.
The first one will lead into your clips.
This is from Jim.
Well, before you get to that, I do
want to mention one thing, which is I
do get PR notifications from a company called
a bit online dot AG, and they have
the odds about some of these things.

(47:03):
I want to mention will SCOTUS ban tick
tock.
It will be upheld.
Yes.
Nine percent.
Yes.
Yes.
Will Elon Musk buy tick tock?
No.
Eighty two percent.
No.
Right.
Will Trump overturned tick tock ban in the
first hundred days of the presidency?
Yes.
Fifty eight percent.

(47:24):
No.
Oh, interesting.
No.
So the betting the betting folk, although the
Trump one is the weakest, the betting folks
say no to that.
So Gen Z tick tock producer writes in,
says boots on the ground regarding the tick
tock ban.
If you recall, I gave you and John
Insight last year and how tick tock ads
and the ad leaderboard systems have some obscure

(47:45):
absentees for massive pay pools to creators.
By the way, I've determined that they are
not creators, their creations.
People who chase algos on YouTube and tick
tock are creations of YouTube and tick tock.
They're not creators.
They just we could talk about it later.
But Mr. Beast really laid out what he
does with his videos.

(48:05):
He's as long as there's more.
If there's three seconds more watching time, average
viewing time, it's a great video.
These are creations of these platforms.
Anyway, he manages several thousand influencers.
Our producer does on tick tock and everyone
is on the edge of their seat because,
well, lots of money is on the table.

(48:27):
And here we go recently noticing with our
influencers.
So this is one of our Gen in
deep inside the mad dash for the next
big thing.
If the band holds new apps and narratives
definitely underway to try to absorb the power
vacuum, if tick tock is shut down, I
say if because the amount of money that
flows through ad revenue here will likely keep

(48:48):
it going.
If not, this model will be immediately duplicated
in a new app.
And of course, the new one is red
note, which is at the top of the
app stores.
He says this is obvious that these the
rankings, the ratings have been games.
Bots are all over it.
They've been pushing red note up to the
top.
Everybody who's on tick tock has an account

(49:09):
now on red note, just in case that
that's the next big thing.
And this should lead into your red note
clips.
I have the backgrounders on red note.
Here's clip one.
Tick tock users are flooding Chinese social media
app red note just days before a potential
brand could remove even said it the way
I did red note.
This is interesting.
You could just say red note, no red

(49:30):
note.
Tick tock users are flooding Chinese social media
app red note just days before a potential
band could remove tick tock from US users
lives.
Some of them have come up with a
creative way to describe the trend, calling themselves
tick tock refugees.
Red note sides US downloads skyrocket nearly 200
% more than last week.

(49:52):
This according to database sensor tower.
The Chinese app also top the ranks of
free downloads on both Apple and Google's app
stores in the US.
Another app called lemon eight trails behind red
note in second place.
The app works almost the same as red
note, but is predominantly English versus red notes
default Chinese.

(50:12):
Lemonade also shares the same Chinese parent company
bite dance.
That's the same company as tick tock built
with features similar to both Instagram and Pinterest.
Users can post photos and short videos on
red note.
It can also have chat functions and its
own online shopping site.
As the apps non Chinese based grows, Chinese
users are telling American newcomers about what could

(50:33):
be considered wrong under the Chinese Communist Party's
censorship rules.
For example, stay away from sensitive topics.
The regime considers sensitive like Taiwan, the Uyghur
ethnic group and the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre.
I don't see any of that on tick
tock.
Hello, obvious.
I have a note about the store, but

(50:53):
I'll play your second red note background or
first.
Red note has already faced criticism from users
for strict censorship rules.
The platform reportedly banned over one and a
quarter million accounts a few weeks ago.
Right now it's ties with the Chinese Communist
Party are facing scrutiny as more Americans flock
to the app.
Red note is owned by a Shanghai based

(51:14):
company and all of its data is stored
in mainland China.
The app is reportedly backed by Chinese tech
giant Tencent.
The Pentagon recently blacklisted Tencent for its alleged
ties to the Chinese military.
And get this.
What's more is that the app's Chinese name,
Xiao Hongshu, means the little.
Little what?

(51:35):
Little red book as in the Mao little
red book.
All right.
So boots on the ground from Danny about
the store.
This is the real problem.
This, I believe, is the real problem.
Besides the massive ad incentives, can you all
these other companies, YouTube and Meta, they either
bought the ad systems deeply entrenched.

(51:57):
They've got a lot of technical debt.
They don't have this leaderboard system, which is
a phenomenal idea.
But the store.
So Danny says, I'm sure, you know, tick
tock has enabled shopping.
I think you sort of acknowledge on Episode
seven, it's probably the only legitimate competition Amazon
may have.
I'm very surprised, he says.
I'm shocked that John hasn't discovered the incredible

(52:18):
deals on tick tock shop from twelve dollar
Baofeng radios, which is at least three dollars
under the price to high quality, unlabeled clothing,
textiles and home goods, usually straight from China.
Also, many homegrown businesses are making millions of
dollars by opening their businesses on tick tock
shop.

(52:39):
I'm a bit disappointed, Danny says.
Everyone seems to find the negativity in oddball
tick tockers, but not the positive.
Fine.
I joined tick tock shop last year.
It works by basically promoting all types of
goods that are sent as free samples in
exchange for making videos or going live, showcasing
the product.
Recently, I've had a video featuring the Baofeng

(53:00):
UV5R radio that has made me close to
how much do you think in two weeks
in commission?
Twenty grand?
No, no.
Ten thousand.
Well, I've been able to stop ruining my
vehicle doing Amazon deliveries and Uber Eats deliveries.
Tick tock has enabled me to have more
than seven hundred dollars in my bank account

(53:21):
at any given time.
The same goes for so many other people
on the platform.
I do not have millions of followers.
Of course not.
It's the algo.
The algo boosts you into people who are
looking for this stuff.
I started with less than a thousand, currently
at eight thousand.
So eight thousand followers and ten thousand dollars,
so five grand a week.
Tick tock is by far the best social

(53:42):
media platform on the Internet.
And I think that this is the real
problem.
I remain solid that this was a anti
-competition, anti-competitive move by Silicon Valley, who
funded some of the people who introduced the
bill, mainly Google and Amazon.
And they just want them out because there's

(54:03):
too much technical debt to recreate this.
And even this Lemonade, which is essentially tried
to do the same thing.
It's bike dance, but they tried to do
the same thing with a shop and they
failed.
It's, you know, it's hard to do these
things.
It's hard to replicate existing success and get
that magic going.
And as you know, I think it would

(54:25):
be very...
If you remember the early days of Twitter,
there were two or three or four clones.
Pounce was one of them.
And there was a whole slew of them
and they didn't have it.
You're right.
There's a certain thing and it's in tech,
it's constant, which is this, it's a magic,
it's something just clicks and it becomes the

(54:47):
thing.
And you can't replicate it.
Now, I think there'll be a big market
for cheap phones, maybe even flip phones that
have TikTok preloaded on it.
I think we'll see this pop up if
it gets banned.
I think it will.
I really think it will.
I think Trump will overturn it because Trump

(55:08):
realizes, as I stated, and I'm sure someone
over there listens to this show, we need
more short form videos, chicks in bikinis.
We need guns.
We need all kinds of stuff.
We are the content media creators of the
universe.
This is our export.
And the only thing is we need to
hook up American products to the shop.

(55:29):
That's it.
That's all that needs to be done.
I think it would be very bad for
America to ban TikTok.
It's bad for this show.
Where are you going to source your content
from?
I only source a certain type of content
from TikTok and I could do without it.

(55:52):
The audience can't.
They're always encouraging.
No, I know.
The audience loves these clips.
They're encouraging you constantly to do this.
Much to your chagrin.
Yes.
Now, do you think that anybody could...
I think you're dead on on this, by
the way, this whole idea.
And I have to look into the shop
and the guy was right in condemning me
for not being up on it.

(56:13):
Although I'm not like, you know, the shopping
guy on the Today Show.
Didn't they have some slippers you can buy
here cheap?
But okay.
And I'm sure this stuff is mostly junk.
Yeah, it is.
Of course it's junk.
That's another thing.

(56:34):
We like buying junk.
We should be buying American junk.
Seriously.
Oh, you know what?
You remember Justin, the guy who has the
Made in America shoe company?
Who got wiped out by Helene in western
North Carolina?
Yeah, he had like 25 people, his whole

(56:55):
factory wiped out.
So I find out he's started a new
company because he's not going to give up.
He started a boot company.
No, guys like that never give up.
And I think he's Gen Z too.
It's like Jambo, the guy who makes the...
That guy, he goes from one business to
another.
I don't know what he's up to now,

(57:15):
but he's like one of those guys.
Only in America do you find people like
this.
We got these guys.
Only in America.
So he started Pearl Boot, the Pearl Boot
company.
I'm like, I'm gonna support this guy.
Cowboy boots.
And they're 450 bucks, which is cheap for
handmade, Made in America cowboy boots.
And they arrived yesterday.

(57:37):
The most comfortable boots I've ever worn in
my life.
It has something like some arch support in
there.
And I have Lucchese boots.
I mean, I've had nice cowboy boots for
over a decade.
And I'm just blown away.
I'm like, that's the kind of stuff we
should be selling on TikTok.

(57:58):
Now I bet he is.
Now I think about it.
Well, he probably isn't.
Well, he should be.
Now that you think about it.
He should be.
He should be.
So, and this is another thing.
On Instagram, the big brands, they all have
their videos and they've got their influencers.
The influencers are suing each other.

(58:19):
Nobu, you stole my vibe.
What is going on with these people?
You copied me.
You copied my style.
But Tina continues to complain about this.
She doesn't complain about it on Instagram anymore
by commenting because that got her kicked off.
But all of these brands like, oh yeah,
and here's this special offer.
And you click on it, you go to
the special offer.

(58:39):
Not in stock.
It's never in stock.
It's a scam.
Yeah.
Whenever Instagram has a special, it's usually clothing.
And it's, you know, it's, these are known
brands.
You know, like, you know, not super.
So what's the point of this?
You think it's some sort of marketing deal?
Well, it sucks no matter what.

(59:00):
I'm not sure if it's a marketing deal,
but they're always out of stock.
And then they recommend something else.
It feels a bit like a bait and
switch.
Feels a bit like it.
Yeah.
And the one time she commented and, you
know, she got booted off for a week.
She commented on the advertiser.
That was a mistake.

(59:20):
That was a big, big mistake.
Don't comment.
She got booted off of Instagram for a
week for saying something about this scammish advertising
bait and switch scam.
And she didn't even say it was a
scam.
She just said, how come it's always out
of stock?
This is no good.
Boom.
You've been limited.
You can't comment for a week.

(59:42):
It was great.
They're really monitoring closely.
Oh, on the advertisers?
Yes.
You can't meddle with the primal forces of
nature, Mr. Beal.
This is the reason that our show doesn't
take advertising.
I just say it all the time.
It's a form of corruption.
Big time.
It really is.
It really is.

(01:00:04):
Huh.
So anyway, we'll see what happens.
What they should have done was put the
kibosh on the idea of them doing this,
pulling this bait and switch scam.
That's what they should be.
They should be.
They should be working on behalf of the
users of Instagram.
Oh, please.
I'm telling you.
Yeah, they don't.
They don't care.
They just want to collect data.
Yeah, now we got, now I get everyone

(01:00:24):
thinking that TikTok was doing it.
We're in the clear.
Please.
Everyone uses Firebase.
We all know how it works.
You know about Firebase?
No, tell me about Firebase.
Oh, it's a SDK you put into your
app.
I think Firebase may be completely controlled by
Google.
And every tap, every swipe, everything you do

(01:00:46):
in the app is tracked.
Every app has it.
Firebase.
Yeah.
Oh, just so I could see if the
app performs properly.
No, it's to spy.
Now, TikTok is smart because it's very hard
to do.
You can't get to the shop, for instance,
outside of the app.

(01:01:06):
That's why you've never seen the shop.
That's why you've never been introduced to it.
If you go to shop.tiktok.com, you
can browse, you know, whatever they're showing you.
But the minute you hit, I want to
search for something, it says, you got to
get the app.
Oh, so they'll never see the shop.
No, not unless you get the app.
You could get it on your phone.

(01:01:27):
You just have to go downstairs to get
it from the drawer.
I have to get the phone out of
the drawer just for this?
Forget it.
I'm not doing it.
It's like stupid.
I can buy stuff from AliExpress.
It's probably the same junk.
I don't think you're the market that they're
going after.
Well, I guess not.
I'm bored.
I was thinking about this the other day.

(01:01:49):
I'm getting to the age.
I'm probably past the age.
But I'm going to say I'm getting to
the age where I'll be defined as an
old coot.
And there's nothing except Prevagen.
We have nothing for old coots.
Coot.
I mean, who needs to be a coot?
But this is where it's going.
We got boner pills.

(01:02:09):
We got to get something.
But there's not much else that we want
to sell.
No, you get to coot.
You're a coot.
A coot's a coot.
A coot's a coot.
It gives you a little more leeway in
your free speech.
Yeah, it does.
That's for sure.
Probably tag somewhere.
It's just a coot.
Don't worry about it.
It's not a problem.
Let him talk.
Let him say whatever he needs to say.
Yes.
Yeah, that's a good point.

(01:02:30):
That would be in my algo.
I did get a note from one of
our from Nick.
Nick, the truck driver.
And he commented on Real Short.
This is the Queeby thing you were talking
about.
Oh, yes.
The thing that was Katzenberg's deal.
Yes.
And he says he has used Real Short
and he has some insight.
So this is good.

(01:02:51):
We have the most impressive people.
First, let me say I'm a truck driver.
While I get loaded or unloaded, I usually
just mindlessly scroll Facebook or Instagram.
I got sucked into one of these so
-called movies made by Real Short on Facebook.
They'll give you three to five minutes on
another platform, then tell you to download their
app.
Well, I downloaded it and the woman on

(01:03:13):
the clip was right.
You get about 10 to 15 minutes and
they ask you for money.
You get tokens to purchase movies starting at
$4.99 for 100 tokens.
I'm not sure how many tokens were needed
to get the whole movie.
Or you can watch an ad five times
a day and get one more one to
two minute segment per ad watched.

(01:03:33):
For reference, the video I was watching had
about 70 segments.
The acting is truly awful.
The plot is horrible.
And yet I still wanted to finish it.
I deleted the app after I saw its
paid model.
This is the general public at large.
When you learn about direct marketing, my all

(01:03:55):
-time favorite thing, and I've brought it up
on the show before.
Pay attention, people.
This is good information you're getting here.
You're going to sell miniature cars.
The cars are going to cost you about
five bucks to buy one.
The first one's a buck or two bucks,
something like that.
And so just to introduce you to the

(01:04:15):
idea of collecting these cars, there's 40 of
them.
And so you buy the $2 car and
they send you the car, the little car,
and a display case with the 40 car
holes.
And so you always get the free display.
Or they gave you a complimentary display case

(01:04:37):
with these 40 holes that are empty because
you get to put your one car in
there.
And look at the empty slots.
The general public will want to fill up
every slot because it's like when you collect
quarters and you get one of these coin
collecting things that's got all those slots you
put the quarters in.

(01:04:57):
If you have one of these, Jay used
to do this.
She'd get one of the containers that hold
the quarters, and there'd be two missing quarters.
She'd go out of her way to find
the P quarter from 19, whatever it is,
and to get the damn thing filled.
We have this tendency as humans to want

(01:05:17):
to fill the gap.
That's right.
And so you got to fill it in.
And so that's what that is.
Somebody figured out you can do this with
short clips.
That is a very good psychological insight.
There is no reason you want to watch
the rest of the damn movie, except for
that factor.

(01:05:38):
You said himself it's junk.
Yeah, that's pretty crazy that people want to
do that.
I know.
Oh no, it's empty.
I got to put it in there.
I should probably mention, since we're talking about
apps and scams, I got a note from

(01:05:58):
one of our producers, Sam, who said, I
think you should bring this particular internet scam
to attention because it's easy for people to
fall into this.
I think this is a couple of years
ago, but when he was 25, he was
on the dating app Hinge, which I've heard
of.
Have you heard of Hinge?

(01:06:19):
No, I've never heard of Hinge.
Yeah, Hinge.
It's like a Tinder, but it's different.
So he was matched with a girl who
was 23, talked on the app for about
two days, every hour or so.
The responses were good.
Then they exchanged text numbers.
And then after texting a bit, she asked
for a picture.

(01:06:40):
And so he sends a picture.
And then she sends back a selfie and
some not safe for work pics.
So, of course, 25-year-old guy, he's
excited.
So after about five hours, he gets a
text from an unknown number.
Someone says, listen, I'm this girl's father, and
my daughter going to a fight with me

(01:07:01):
and my wife.
And so we took her phone away.
Then we saw that she's been texting you
and you've been texting her.
She's 16.
All right, so here's the setup.
She threatened to kill herself.
I'm sitting at the hospital now with my
daughter, and I'm going to press charges against
you, sick pedophile bastard.
So, of course, kid then, he's freaking out.

(01:07:23):
It's like, no, but wait, she said she
was 23.
And, you know, wow, this is a good
one.
But wait, but wait, but wait.
So then the kid, the father, so-called
father, sends something like, son, if you know
it's good for you, you're going to make
this right.
Otherwise, it will ruin your life for being
a pedophile.
And then, of course, he's like, you know,

(01:07:45):
you need to pay.
You need to pay for the pain you've
caused my daughter.
And if not, I'm going to hand you
over to the police.
So he does nothing, gets a phone call
from the local police officer, which we know
these are all different scams rolled into one.
And the police officer then says, you know,

(01:08:07):
I really advise you should pay the father.
You don't want to be labeled a sex
offender.
I mean, this is, of course, it was
a scam.
He just didn't do anything and it went
away because he confirmed the badge number.
And it wasn't a valid badge number.
Well, he did some work.

(01:08:27):
But this is very sophisticated.
This is a very sophisticated scam.
Well, it reminds, it's just like a, it's
a more advanced version of the, hey, granddad
call, which I've gotten twice.
Both times from, yeah, okay.
Hey, granddad.

(01:08:48):
What?
Who?
Who are you?
Yeah, it's your, it's your grandson.
I got arrested.
Yeah, I got it.
I said, the way that normal scam, I
don't have kids old enough to get arrested.
Their grandkids are old enough to get arrested.
So it doesn't work.
That's what you think.
Well, I could, but it's possible, but I
wouldn't care anyway.

(01:09:10):
So it's just like, and I guess people
have fallen for this.
Yes.
Oh, yes.
And that's the simplest of all those things.
Besides all the calls you normally get.
Of course, why doesn't law enforcement crack down
on this?
It is doable.
Well, the problem is.
And the number of, we've played clips.
The trillions of dollars are being scammed, you

(01:09:32):
know, by, worldwide by these people and nothing's
being done about it.
And by the way, a few shows back,
I didn't read it, but we got boots
on the ground report from someone who's in
law enforcement and women, particularly older women fall
for this all the time.
They, someone friends them on Facebook.
He's such a nice man.

(01:09:54):
And they build up a relationship over weeks.
And then the question comes, oh, can you
just spot me a thousand bucks?
And before you know it, they've, they've sent
a hundred thousand dollars of their retirement money.
The family is begging and pleading and like,
no, no, no, this is real.
This is true love.
We have a real relationship.
This is legit.
And you can't convince them otherwise.

(01:10:16):
Yeah.
Well, there was a report on one of
the Fox shows about how some woman lost
$850,000 to a Brad Pitt.
Why are we still doing podcasts?
What losers we are.
Think about, think about, well, you and I
could do a group.
We could do voices.
We can.
Oh, hey, how you doing?

(01:10:38):
You could sit on TikTok all day, reeling
them in.
Yeah, it'd be great.
No.
Claiming to be Brad Pitt.
And the question the panel was asking, well,
who thinks Brad Pitt needs money?
I mean, the whole thing was stupid.
Well, I mean, there's, it's just, that's how

(01:11:00):
it goes.
You do a hundred a day.
You hit one, you track it.
You got a database.
The internet was a bad idea.
No, that's what I always.
That's been my claim since day one.
But it's not just the internet.
Most of these things that most of the
scams are telephone scams.
There's no internet involved.

(01:11:20):
Yes.
Yeah.
By the way, this has to be stopped.
Do you have any Delulu clips for today?
No, no Delulu clips for today.
No, but I got a note from one
of our producers who starts by saying, you
know, I hadn't been hitting the mouth before
the last election, but I'm sure you've covered

(01:11:41):
all of the Trump will still be president
YouTubers and TikTokers.
So she is, I think she may be
young.
Z.
I was getting all the updates from a
friend who was totally invested from the theories
around ballets to those she thought were.
I'm sorry, from the theories around ballots to
those she thought were true profits.

(01:12:04):
She told me later that she had made
detailed plans for her suicide if these things
didn't come to pass and was only stopped
by feeling God's clear intervention.
In November, a family member had a close
liberal friend attempt suicide the day after Trump's
election.
People on the left are truly terrified about
the next term.
And if I heard and believe what they

(01:12:26):
do, I probably would be too.
These team Delulu theorists and profits sadly may
really hurt the public.
People that believe in them.
This is I mean, I agree it's along
the same lines.
If people will believe that Brad Pitt needs
some cash, you know, and they believe that
well, to be fair about it, a lot

(01:12:48):
of people bought into the quantum dots.
You know, just be just be fair and
Q.
Oh, man, bring back Q.
That was so funny.
Please don't still around.
I know.
Please don't send me an email.
He's still here.
He's got proofs.
Follow the breadcrumbs.
I've become I've become cynical in my old

(01:13:10):
age.
The show is being ruined because I'm becoming
like you.
This is ruining the show.
It's well, it's it's ruining the show.
No, it's giving now we have.
No, it's not.
I think it's fine.
I think we can hang in there.
Okay.
For four more years, we can do it.
Let's talk a little bit about the fires.
Oh, you mean Newsom's Inferno?

(01:13:32):
Is that another one?
You like it?
Do you like it?
Yeah, I like Newsom's Inferno.
I think Newsom's Inferno is good.
Can I start?
Where did that come from?
I will tell you because I did not
make it up myself.
I want to be clear.
This is one of our producers.
Hold on.
It was Michael Falwell.

(01:13:55):
Michael came up with it, but we will
appropriate it.
And from now on, it is a no
agenda term.
I like it.
Yes.
I think it's a possible show title.
I'd like to start us off with Jimmy
Kimmel.
Just to get just to get that poor
guy.
What a pathetic soul he's turned out to
be.

(01:14:21):
Very scary.
Very stressful.
Very strange week here in L.A. where
we work, where we live.
He's already crying.
Our kids go to school.
We are back at our studio, which we
had to evacuate on Wednesday.
This is that's our building right there.
That is how close this fire was to
our theater here.

(01:14:41):
Many of us had to leave our homes
in a hurry.
Some of our co-workers lost their homes.
That's Hollywood.
Yes.
It's been terrible.
It's been a terrible.
Everyone who lives in this city knows someone,
most of us, multiple people, families, friends, colleagues,

(01:15:01):
neighbors whose houses burned down.
And the truth is, we don't even know
if it's over.
We had 100 mile per hour winds fueling
this nightmare.
As of tonight, the winds are back.
And I think I speak for all of
us when I say it has been a
sickening, shocking, awful experience, but has also been,
in a lot of ways, a beautiful experience.

(01:15:22):
Because once again, we see our fellow men
and women coming together to support each other.
People who lost their own homes were out
volunteering in parking lots, helping others who lost
theirs.
And tonight...
We're here to talk show.
Not helping.
Yes, yes.

(01:15:44):
Getting into all the vile and irresponsible and
stupid things our alleged future president in his
gaggle of scumbags chose to say during our
darkest and most terrifying hour.
The fact that he chose to attack our
fires.
Because Kimmel's job here is to be a
political weapon, whatever he's trying to do.
Did anyone still watch that show?

(01:16:06):
Let's take a look.
Well, you...
Somebody did to get that clip, but I
don't.
I find it's hard to watch.
Well, it's 11 more seconds.
I mean, he had a nice formula going
for a while, but it's become...
The Trump derangement situation with him has gone
out of control.
And now to throw Trump into these...
You know, anyone who brings Trump into the
conversation regarding these fires has got to screw

(01:16:28):
loose.
Trump had nothing to do with these fires,
one way or the other.
And his comments about the fires are minor.
And who cares what he has to say?
He doesn't say anything about them.
It's not his business.
And he's not president.
No.
Well, we'll finish this up.
Future president in his gaggle of scumbags chose

(01:16:49):
to say during our darkest and most terrifying
hour.
The fact that he chose to attack our
firefighters, who apparently aren't white enough to be
out there risking their lives on our behalf,
it's disgusting, but it's not surprising.
Instead, I want to focus on thanking those
men and women.
Oh, yes.
He should have just gone off the air.

(01:17:12):
Well, he's a guy who's been caught in
blackface more than once.
He was actually suspended for a while because
of it.
And he should have been canceled, but he
wasn't.
And so now he's back and he can't
even hold it together.
No.
He can't even produce a show.
I mean, it's not everything that takes place
in the world is not about L.A.

(01:17:34):
and its fires.
No.
I have a mini supercut.
Of the fires?
Yes, of course I do.
Here it is.
It essentially looks like a bomb went off
out here.
It looks like a bomb went off here
as well.
It looks like a bomb went off.
Looks like it was carpet bombed.
Every single home is obliterated.
Looks like a bomb went off.
Cars obliterated like bombs went off.

(01:17:55):
It looks apocalyptic.
Apocalyptic.
It looks like Hiroshima.
A bomb went off.
Everything is gone.
It looks like Hiroshima.
It looks like literally a nuclear bomb went
off and leveled our entire city.
Looks like a disaster zone.
Like a bomb went off.
Looking like a bomb went off.
It's really unbelievable.

(01:18:15):
The truth wants to come out everywhere on
this thing.
It's kind of frightening.
This is the Los Angeles County Public Works
director.
My first piece of advice to you is,
let's take care of our mental and physical
health first before we embark upon what is
going to be a journey to rebuild these
communities back and rebuild them better than they

(01:18:36):
were when we started this fire.
What?
What?
Wow.
What?
That's a great catch.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
That's horrible.
I can't believe you said that.
There was another one.
It's true.
Yeah.
There was another one here, I thought.

(01:18:57):
Oh, yes, this is another funny one.
And by the way, with respect to the
charges I'm going to announce, please know this.
This is the Los Angeles district attorney.
The charges themselves are not evidence.
Everyone that I'm going to describe today is
presumed guilty until and unless they are proven
guilt.
Their guilt is proven by the government beyond

(01:19:19):
a reasonable doubt.
So they're all guilty.
They're guilty.
The arsonists, they're all guilty.
The one arsonist, they already let him go.
Yeah, but there's plenty of videos of people
setting fires.
And this is what happens.
This is what happens when you have a
rotten society.
Yeah, they're torching it when they can.

(01:19:40):
And I was kind of amazed by this.
Actually, this is a TikToker in Los Angeles.
I guess her house did not burn down.
And she had this to say.
I want to take a minute to talk
about looting, because I think it's worth considering
why people would run into an active fire

(01:20:03):
to steal stuff rather than fleeing the fire.
And it seems like in the media coverage
that I'm listening to, that people think that
people are just, like, greedy who want to
be looting.
And I'm just wondering if maybe these people
have actually considered whether it is safer for
them to run into a fire or to
continue to exist within capitalism without access to

(01:20:24):
resources.
And after weighing the pros and cons, they
concluded that the safer option is to run
into the fire to steal stuff.
Because you never see, like, Elon or Jeff
or Mark running into a fire to steal
stuff, because they don't have to run into
a fire to steal stuff.
They can just steal from their workers via
wage theft.
And that's legal within capitalism.
So if we want people to stop looting,

(01:20:46):
I'm wondering if maybe the solution isn't to
have more police, but rather to have a
system where people don't feel like it's a
better option to run into a fire.
This is so short-sighted.
First of all, these are- Well, not
only that, but nobody's running into the fire.
No.
Because the fires are over, the houses that
are left are the ones being looted.

(01:21:06):
So she's full of shit from the get
-go.
But the looting is, that's socialism in reverse.
Either you give your stuff up front, or
they steal it from you later.
You're going to lose your stuff, lady, with
what you want.
It's just these- And we have producers
who live out there who have been affected

(01:21:27):
by this.
So, you know, it really is no laughing
matter.
But looking at the possible, you know, never
let a good crisis go to waste.
A lot of people commented on this clip
of Newsom.
And the minute he talks about speculators buying

(01:21:47):
up properties, he's shaking his shoulders.
He's wiggling his shoulders.
Yes, this is the strangest- Yes, this
clip is better if we're a video showing
it.
But I think people can find it.
Yeah, he's wiggling around like some sort of
a- Like he's got ants crawling up
him or something.
Well, if you listen now, so that was
the distraction.
If you listen to what he's actually saying,

(01:22:09):
it sounds to me like he wants to
help these speculators.
Listen now, this is good that there's no
video.
We're dealing with a myriad of issues.
I was just talking to Josh Green, the
governor.
Laugh tale.
Why is it a laugh tale?
Why the laugh tale, Newsom?
Why are you laughing?
governor down in Hawaii.
He had some ideas around some land use

(01:22:30):
concerns he has around speculators coming in, buying
up properties and the like.
We're already working with our legal teams to
move those things forward.
To move those things forward- Wow, you're
right.
This is interesting.
It's possible that the wiggling around was distracting
from what he's saying.
Completely.
He's saying, at first he's laughing- Yeah,
we're going to try to move it along,

(01:22:51):
get some speculation going here.
I'd buy a lot or two myself.
Yes, we're in the market.
Let's listen to it in context one more
time.
We're dealing with a myriad of issues.
governor down in Hawaii.
He had some ideas around some land use
concerns he has around speculators coming in, buying
up properties and the like.

(01:23:12):
We're already working with our legal teams to
move those things forward.
We'll be presenting those in a matter of
days, not just weeks.
We'll be presenting those to who?
To the speculators?
This is exactly what he said.
I need to go back to the Meet
the Press stylized interview where he talked about
the rebuilding.

(01:23:32):
You're here with us on Meet the Press
to announce a new executive order.
What is this executive order?
What are you hoping to accomplish?
We've got to be thinking three weeks, three
months, three years ahead.
At the same time, we're focusing on the
immediacy, which is life, safety, and property.
We want to fast track by eliminating any
secret requirements.
I've got coastal act changes that we're making.

(01:23:53):
I want to make sure when someone rebuilds
that they have their old property tax assessments
and that they're not increased.
All of that's been done in the executive
order we just announced.
Wait a minute.
I'll just stop there for a second.
Perfect for speculators.
Hey, if you come in, buy this up,
you get the old tax rate.
We're good.
We're open for business.
CEQA, Governor, and the coastal act are both

(01:24:13):
environmental regulations.
And if you're going to be suspending those
temporarily, are you concerned about problems that may
result from the suspension of those environmental regulations
and the potential abuse by developers?
Yeah, we're not going to.
And within this executive order, we frame those
abuses.
We basically bookmark that in the context of
maintaining the existing footprints on the coastal act.

(01:24:35):
They allow just a 10% variant.
So we're going to be very mindful of
that.
California leads the nation in environmental stewardship.
I'm not going to give that up.
But one thing I won't give into is
delay.
We've got to let people know we have
their back.
We're going to be back.
We're going to do it efficiently and effectively.
Don't turn your back.
Don't walk away because we want you to

(01:24:56):
come back, rebuild, and rebuild.
Build with higher quality building standards, more modern
standards.
We want to make sure that the associated
costs with that are not disproportionate, especially in
a middle class community like this.
Build, build.
He says better back.
Build what?

(01:25:19):
And that falls right into LA 2.0.
Over the course of the next several years,
Los Angeles will be host to the World
Cup and then the Super Bowl and then
the Olympics.
With this rebuilding effort needing to take place,
is LA going to be ready for all
of those global events?
My humble position, and it's not just being

(01:25:40):
naively optimistic, that only reinforces the imperative of
moving quickly, doing in the spirit of collaboration
and cooperation.
President of the United States, Donald Trump, to
his credit, was helpful in getting the Olympics
to the United States of America, to get
it down here in LA.
We thank him for that.
This is an opportunity for him to shine,
for this country to shine, for California and

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this community to shine.
The opportunity with all of that and all
that opportunity and that pride and spirit that
comes from not just hosting those three iconic
games and venues, but also the opportunity, I
think, to rebuild at the same time.
And that's why we're already organizing a Marshall
Plan.
We already have a team looking at reimagining
LA 2.0, and we're making sure everyone's

(01:26:24):
included, not just the folks on the coast,
people here that were ravaged by this disaster.
So everybody gets to participate in LA 2
.0, and it will be a dystopia.
It's going to be great.
Here is LA's smart city strategy, which was
already on the books for 2028.
Let's accelerate.
Hi, my name is Ted Ross, Chief Information

(01:26:45):
Officer at the City of Los Angeles.
As you know, we live in a world
full of urban challenges, from traffic congestion that
takes our time and pollutes our environment, to
natural disasters that threaten the safety of our
communities.
To address these challenges, Los Angeles looks to
smart city technology that can positively transform our

(01:27:06):
urban environment.
While not a silver bullet, technology provides solutions
that were previously unavailable to the generations who
lived before us.
It is technology that enables transparency in our
policing and gives a powerful voice to our
diverse communities.
It's technology that innovates alternative energy sources to

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reduce pollution and limit our carbon footprint.
And it is technology that provides ultra high
speed internet connectivity for LA residents and businesses
to do amazing things.
Technology enables the city of LA to efficiently
and ethically improve the quality of life for
our residents, businesses and visitors.

(01:27:47):
In other words, when done right, technology makes
us smarter.
That's why the City of Los Angeles strives
to be a smart city.
And there's never been a more important time
for Los Angeles to be smart than now.
Yeah.
As we prepare to host the world in
the 2028 Summer Olympics and Paralympics.
So would you like to hear the five

(01:28:07):
point plan?
Well, I might as well.
I think you should.
In LA, we believe smart cities are much
more than software you purchase or sensors that
you install in the cityscape.
Oh, it's much more.
In fact, it's exactly that.
A smart city is an integrated, intelligent urban
ecosystem.
Oh, John, can you see the PowerPoint?

(01:28:30):
An integrated, intelligent ecosystem.
Dystopia.
Comprised of multiple ingredients that must work together
for the benefit of the public.
You see that on the screen, like your
washing machine is connected to your car, connected
to your house.
It's beautiful.
This would include, first, smart city infrastructure.
Yeah.
This is the physical technology used to deliver

(01:28:51):
smart city technologies, such as Department of Transportation's
ATSAC traffic management system.
Sensors.
Which uses 4,500 connected traffic intersections.
To reduce travel time by more than 13%.
Or the public works street lightings, 165,000
LED street lamps that saves $3 million a

(01:29:12):
year in electricity.
Yeah, and spy on you.
Second, our smart city data tools.
Data tools.
This is the ability to share information across
the smart city when you need it, where
you need it.
Yeah, to track people.
Such as Sanitation's Clean Streets Program that proactively
improves street cleanliness across 6,500 miles of

(01:29:32):
LA streets.
Wow.
Or our Data Science Federation, which every semester
matches university data scientists in training with LA
urban challenges.
Oh, yeah.
Third is smart city digital services, which are
the apps and websites used to digitally deliver
city services to the public.
Hey, give me some service, city.
I have the app.
Including the award-winning MyLA311 mobile app.

(01:29:55):
Award-winning.
Providing access to 1,500 city services through
your smartphone.
Can you remove this homeless person from my
stoop?
Or the ShakeAlert LA app that provides up
to 45 seconds of advanced warning of a
coming earthquake.
You're going to die.
You have 45 seconds.
You have 45 seconds.
This is great.
Fourth, our smart city connectivity and digital inclusion.

(01:30:17):
Ah, smart city digital inclusion.
This is the work that we do to
ensure that all LA communities and businesses have
access to the internet.
It includes the distribution of over 5,000
computers by the city of LA to families
in need through our HourCycle LA program.
Oh, yeah.
Here, have an old Dell.
And finally, is smart city governance.

(01:30:38):
This is how we coordinate investments in smart
city efforts to steal the money across all
of our 42 city departments.
In fact, the city of Los Angeles is
a founding member of the i3 Consortium, along
with the University of Southern California and 90
other partners, which has built an open source
internet of things data aggregator as a smart
city data marketplace.

(01:30:59):
No, that was the there was the buzz
phrase of the decade.
Marketplace.
Whatever they're talking about.
Internet of things.
Go back it up and play that if
you can.
Yeah, of course.
Internet of things.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Hold on.
Internet of things.
Here we go.

(01:31:19):
Is a founding member of the i3 Consortium,
along with the University of Southern California and
90 other partners, which has built an open
source internet of things data aggregator as a
smart city data marketplace.
An open source internet of things data aggregator
to blah, blah, blah.
Bull crap.
Suck up the money and KTLA.

(01:31:41):
They know it's all about the money.
All right, David Lazar shorting it now to
answer a couple of questions.
Damage obviously the LA wildfires in the billions.
I think there are 275.
That's the highest maybe for the Palisades alone.
I don't know.
That's all the fires.
Yeah.
OK, so that those are expenses initial, but
there's gonna be a lot more expenses long
term.
Yeah.
I mean, once we get the fires out

(01:32:03):
and people safe, this turns into a money
story.
And that story is going to last for
decades.
As we've been talking about, the damage estimates
now top 250 billion dollars.
And let's face it.
Insurers are just simply not equipped to handle
anywhere close to that level of claims.
Beyond that, there's the cost to utilities for

(01:32:24):
restoring infrastructure.
There's the cost to municipalities for rebuilding schools
and other public resources and the cost of
meeting the ongoing needs of thousands and thousands
of displaced residents.
And then there's public health experts are already
warning of increases in asthma, cancer and premature
births resulting from exposure to wildfire smoke and

(01:32:46):
toxins.
And as if all that wasn't enough, rents
are projected to continue rising as demand significantly
outpace outpaces available supply for rental properties.
All of this adds up to difficulties on
the economic front.
Clearly, federal assistance is going to be needed.
But some politicians are already saying California is

(01:33:07):
going to have to make political concessions if
they want federal aid.
And that just complicates things.
Boots on the ground from JL.
Mr. Curry, I've lived in Southern California for
57 years.
I have 29 years experience in disaster response
with county, state and federal agencies.
I grew up in Pasadena, the Eaton Fire,

(01:33:28):
L.A. County.
I can tell you you are completely correct
when you say that disaster is a moneymaker.
A large fire is a boon to not
only firefighters, but the myriad of private contractors
as well as other government workers, hotels who
put up responders, food service contractors, laundry service
contractors, aircraft contractors, water tender contractors, generator

(01:33:50):
contractors, repair contractors, transportation contractors.
All the staff comes in the big rigs.
Lots and lots and lots of money.
Santa Ana winds are an annual occurrence in
Southern California.
They've contributed to a number of large fires
over the years.
What is a bit odd about this one
is the winds presented themselves in January.
They typically seem to arrive in October-ish,

(01:34:12):
but this is not exclusive.
We've had little rain, so the dry vegetation
is the problem.
There's no stopping a fire when it's wind
-driven in this fashion.
My hometown has been devastated.
Fortunately, all of the family property is untouched
by flames, and we're happy to hear that.
So it's a big moneymaker, and that's what
Gavin Newsom is laugh-telling about.
Heh, heh, heh, money.

(01:34:34):
And we were very wrong about the residential
sprinklers.
I'm sure you noticed this.
Well, a lot of people wrote in about
there are more tanks than we thought.
No, not the tanks, but about sprinklers in
homes.
Since 2011, this has been a requirement in
California, and many— Yeah, but most of those
houses in Pacific Palisades weren't built in 2011.

(01:34:55):
They were always there.
So there's plenty of evidence to the contrary.
I would say we weren't completely right.
I think we should just take the L
on this one.
I'm not going to do that.
Okay, all right.
Adamatcurry.com to email John.
That's what always happens.
Now, I got a couple of clips here
that are kind of interesting.
This is the underreported clip.

(01:35:15):
This is the Act Blue clip.
Oh, yes.
Yes, this is a good one.
Well, California Governor Gavin Newsom is trying to
defend his handling of the state's deadly wildfire
outbreak.
Now, we just told you about his latest
attacks toward President-elect Trump, and now he's
launching this new website, guys, aimed at combating
supposed misinformation around his response to the fires.

(01:35:39):
There's also an option on the website to
donate to the California Fire Fund.
But here's the thing.
It's not a direct donation.
Even though there are ways to donate directly
to the fund, instead here, the governor is
accepting donations through the Democratic Fundraising Platform Act
Blue, which, side note, guys, takes nearly 4

(01:36:00):
% in processing fees.
And he's not the only Democrat doing this.
Your favorite Senator Elizabeth Warren urged her followers
to use her Act Blue link.
So did the hosts over at the progressive
podcast, Pod Save America.
And Jason, I wanna ask you about this.
I ask this neutrally.
Is it standard protocol to have sort of
fundraising for disaster relief occur through Democratic super

(01:36:24):
PAC organizations?
I have never heard or seen of that
before.
And it is a Democratic-run organization, and
they do get a financial benefit for every
dollar that goes through it.
Think of all the ones they could have
donated to.
Everything from the Red Cross to, I mean,
you name it.
They could have gone directly to helping people.
But no, they're crass enough to put it

(01:36:45):
through a Democratic-run organization called Act Blue.
Crass indeed.
And Kayleigh, that's the point.
Just to hammer home, you can always donate
directly to this fire fund.
And instead of just linking directly, the governor
put it through his super PAC political activist
Democratic Party site.
Yeah, it's a horrible look.

(01:37:05):
So the real kicker here is not even
the 4% that they're stealing.
It's through his PAC.
It's the fact that they're collecting the email
addresses, the addresses, the demographics, whatever they can
get.
This is a mailing list scam.
They're the TikTok of politics.
It's horrible.

(01:37:25):
It's horrible.
That is horrible, and it's not being covered
well.
These are mainstreams.
You're not talking about it.
I have two more clips.
First is the LA Times report.
The LA Times seems to be at least
doing some work on this fire.
Fire LA Times.
Yes, got it.
New reporting from the Los Angeles Times is

(01:37:48):
calling into question how prepared LA County was
in advance of the deadly wildfires that are
raging across the region.
As NPR's Liz Baker reports, city officials claim
that resources were pre-positioned in high-risk
areas ahead of the powerful winds that continue
to fuel the blazes.

(01:38:09):
The LA Times alleges that last Tuesday night,
as hurricane-force gusts sent flames and embers
towards residential neighborhoods, the LA Fire Department only
deployed five out of 40 available engines, and
roughly 1,000 off-duty firefighters were only
called in after the firestorm had already gotten
out of control.
In a press conference, LA Fire Department Chief
Kristen Crowley responded.
We follow a system.

(01:38:30):
We did that.
We pre-deployed the necessary resources, knowing that,
or not knowing, I should be very specific,
in where a fire might break out in
the city.
When pushed for comment, LA Mayor Karen Bass
said, The buck always stops with me, but
refused to elaborate further.
Did you see the owner of the Los
Angeles Times?

(01:38:52):
What about him?
What is his name, Asian dude?
Yeah, Chong Chong something.
Well, first of all, we'll accept some blame,
right?
So at the LA Times, we endorsed Karen
Bass.
I think right now in front, that's a
mistake, and we admit that.
So I thought it was really important early

(01:39:14):
on for me to come out, and I
think we were one of the few to
say competence matters.
By the way, this guy has the oddest
head in the world.
His head is like Stewie's head.
It's a funny-shaped head.
Yes, a very funny-shaped head.
I'm good like that.
Guy's extremely bright.

(01:39:34):
Oh, yeah.
Between the two of us.
He bought the paper, and he was run
over, essentially run over by the staff of
lefties.
Yep.
And he backed off.
And now he's doing what the Washington Post
didn't say.
No, you can't do this.
You can't do that.
No, we quit.
Yeah.
And so these reporters have to think twice

(01:39:56):
about quitting in this market.
But okay, go ahead and go to the
podcast.
Well, I'm glad you brought that up.
So I will stop the LA Times owner
clip, and I will go to the latest
venture, which includes a refugee from WAPO.
I'm sure all of your Lib Joe friends
are talking about it.

(01:40:16):
Not talking to you about it, but this
is so brave.
This is just so good.
So brave.
So brave of Jen Rubin, who is in
this video with her glasses askew on her
head.
I kid you not.
You know how they're not level?

(01:40:37):
Right.
She also has a portrait of herself behind
herself when she's doing this little presentation.
This is fantastic.
This is the textbook example of a failure
from the get-go.
Hi, I'm Jen Rubin.
And I'm Norm Eisen.
I am here to announce I am leaving
the Washington Post in order to co-found
with Norm an exciting new online platform, The

(01:40:59):
Contrarian.
We are going to bring you written material,
podcasts, interviews, social media, all in defense of
democracy.
Our intent is to combat the authoritarian force
that we all face.
To help us, we have an exciting array
of contributors from all walks of life, all
ages, all backgrounds to help us in this

(01:41:22):
venture.
But wait, there's more.
We're going to do politics.
We're going to do law.
But we know that any successful pro-democracy
movement also has to be very vocal about
culture.
We'll have a humor column.
We'll even have a cooking column.
But we're going to sprinkle in a little
bit of pro-democracy flavor.

(01:41:44):
And we're going to have pets.
We're very pro-pets.
So please join us in this journey.
We cannot do this without you.
We want your contributions, your input, your ideas.
Thank you for joining The Contrarian.
She's going to be the left-wing Joe

(01:42:05):
Rogan, I tell you.
Jen Rubin for the win.
It's unbelievable.
Well, you mentioned Karen Bass.
I do want to play this Karen Bass
clip because this little tidbit that should be
known.
This is Karen Bass in Cuba.
You know, listen, a lot of people have
been talking about, you know, who's to blame,
you know, whether it's Gavin Newsom or the
mayor.
A lot of people don't realize that Karen

(01:42:27):
Bass is actually at, you know, we talk
about these left-wing policies.
She has ties to communism.
She was cutting sugarcane in Cuba.
She's had 15 trips to Cuba, met with
Fidel Castro.
She is a solid communist.
So don't be surprised that your policies make
your city look like this.

(01:42:48):
When you put a communist, somebody, a communist
and a communist sympathizer at the top of
your, of the heap as the mayor of
Los Angeles, it's not surprising.
They manage things.
Look at how Cuba's managed.
And now look at this.
Oh, okay, Fox.
Okay.
Sugarcane Karen.
There it is.

(01:43:08):
Sugarcane Karen.
Oh, I like it.
You're coming up with good gems.
I'm on fire today.
Not as good as bondage, but you're getting
there.
Now, I'm, I'm a little upset just looking
at your clip list.
If you sent me an email and you
made a big stink about it in the
newsletter, where's your who killed JFK material?

(01:43:29):
I have two clips.
Oh, good.
I knew you had it.
Because, and I, and I want to lead
into this because Alex Jones about the LA
fire, he's saying we have to stop saying
it's incompetence.
He has to say it's criminal negligence.
This is the globalists.
This was the plan all along.
They want to build LA into a smart

(01:43:49):
city.
I think he has some points.
I think he always has points.
He's got good points.
It's just that overall, there's something sketchy about
Alex Jones.
And I think this, but then he, well,
he comes out with this, with this video,
which when I saw it, I'm like, isn't
this just promotion for a book that came

(01:44:10):
out?
I'm not sure what it was.
Roger Stone had a book already that developed
most of these, this material, which was the
idea that LBJ killed Kennedy by sending this
one guy.
And there's a link in the newsletter to
this guy's wiki page, Malcolm something.

(01:44:32):
Mack, what's his name?
Mack, Mack something.
Mack.
Come on, man.
You're the one that sent it.
This is your beat.
Mack Wallace.
Yeah, Mack Wallace.
You can look him up on Wikipedia and
he's sketchy.
And he got, he got away with murder
very early on.
And one of Lyndon Johnson's lawyers got him
off of a murder rap where he was

(01:44:53):
found guilty of murder.
And he gets a suspended sentence for some
unknown reason.
This is Texas politics.
Texas is at its best, is more corrupt
than any place.
We're great.
Number one, foam finger number one.
And so Lyndon Johnson then had the guy
by the nuts and said, you know, you're
going to have to, you know, you got
to kill Kennedy.

(01:45:13):
Well, he killed a bunch of people, this
guy.
Yeah.
Besides just Kennedy, supposedly.
And I still don't buy the Kennedy thing.
And I think this whole tape that Jones
played was, and Jones made a point, it's
not AI, he says.
Well, this is, it is, I think, AI,
but it's beside the point.
This clip is dubious because when you're talking

(01:45:33):
to somebody, like, if you call me on
the phone, or if you're in person in
particular, do you say, well, John, what do
you think about that, John?
You hate it when people do that.
Nobody does it.
Do you?
Do you, Adam?
Adam, do you do that, Adam?
Well, John, from time to time, I have

(01:45:53):
been known to do this.
But it's really to accentuate a point.
Like, if you killed somebody, I'd say, well,
John, you know, you got that guy to
kill him.
Yes, that's what I make sure.
Yeah.
So I have the basic clip that Jones
played, which is the Estes basic clip, and
then I ran it through Adobe to clean
it up.

(01:46:14):
And when you try, you can't clean it
up.
But what you can understand when you play
it through Adobe is that it kind of
screws it up in some parts, and then
the other part gets really normal.
And the background noise is always the same.
Oh, you've done deep forensic analysis, I can
see.
I did some.
I don't know how deep it is.
With Adobe.
But I'm telling you, it shows me that

(01:46:36):
this clip is fake.
But let's listen to it.
If you can understand it.
If you don't want to play the whole
thing, because it's unintelligible.
Well, it's one of those that you really
need the captions on the screen.
Billy Saul Estes talking to this Cliff guy
who was the chief of staff for Lyndon

(01:46:57):
Johnson.
And the two of them are talking about
how they're disappointed in Lyndon for killing Kennedy.
Okay, it's

(01:47:24):
unintelligible.
So let's go to your forensic experiment where
you've cleaned it up.
Now, listen to the how bad the fake
part and then listen to when it cleans
itself up, and then it goes back to
being crummy.
Now, listen, just listen.
You have to listen.
I'll tell you when to stop it.
You're going to be half right to eat
a day.
Well, it's been pretty tactical situation.

(01:47:48):
But a few unpleasant words here likely.
It sounds like Bill Clinton.
I think Bill Clinton killed Kennedy.
That's what it sounds like.
So he hired Mark Walsh to assassinate the
president.
It's been acting their way.
But we lived through this far.

(01:48:12):
I guess we'll continue to do so.
Lyndon should have never issued that order to
Mike.
We've had our differences.
It's interesting how some of it's really good.
And then all of a sudden it goes
right into being legible, which is what Adobe

(01:48:32):
is supposed to.
I think this has been doctored.
It's been doctored.
And now the story behind this tape, which
is that this guy is Billy Saul Estes,
who is a very famous people can look
him up.
I mean, it's a past history, but it
was a corrupt guy, but it just seemingly
a great family, blah, blah, blah.
But he's handed this down and it got

(01:48:55):
handed down to, I guess, the grandson who
was told that he'll know when to release
it.
And so I'm going to do it on
Alex Jones show.
So he's going to.
So he releases it.
Curiously, just before we know two things.
One, we know that supposedly Trump has promised
to release the Kennedy stuff, the Kennedy information.

(01:49:17):
The timing is questionable.
And so this throws shade on Lyndon Johnson
and this is what is a story that
makes some sense.
And it takes the pressure off the CIA,
the CIA, even though I don't think the
CIA killed Kennedy, I don't think they do

(01:49:39):
that to American politicians.
But I think the mob did, which is
we've talked about this on the show a
million times, but the CIA may have known
about it or they did something.
They didn't stop him.
They couldn't stop him.
They tried.
Maybe.
Who knows?
The CIA has got some involvement.
But this is a distraction to throw off

(01:49:59):
what's going to happen because I have to
assume the CIA could have produced this.
They could also have been in the process
over the last, I don't know how many
months, producing fake documents to release.
I think the whole thing's going to come
out and they're going to throw the blame
on Lyndon Johnson.
This is bullcrap.

(01:50:20):
It's a op.
This is an op and Jones is part
of it.
Who needs QAnon when you've got John C.
Dvorak?
This is excellent.
I appreciate that.
And with that, I will say in the
morning to you, the man who put the
C in sugarcane Karen, say hello to my
friend on the other end, the one, the
only Mr. John C.

(01:50:42):
Dvorak.
Hey, in the morning, I'm creating more ships,
sea boats, and raffia in the air, subs
in the water, dames and knights out there.
In the morning to the trolls in the
troll room.
What are we supposed to have on Thursdays?
18.
1978, baby.

(01:51:03):
We're blowing it out of the water with
the trolls.
Hello.
That's when Bordeaux and I started becoming good
again.
I like it.
It's good to have you here, trolls.
Very good to have you checking in trollroom
.io or noagenda.stream. And of course, the
modern podcast apps.
You want to grab one of those, you
want to grab them before everything's taken off

(01:51:24):
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You know that if you if you stop
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You can't play them.
This happened to you?
Yes, it's a big scam.
It is a scam.
The way it works is it's not like
you're a member of audible and you can
buy a book.
You don't have a copy of the book?

(01:51:45):
You didn't back up a copy?
Silly me.
I just paid the subscription and it all
came back to life.
The way they do it, though, the scam
is you get credits.
Credits.
Give me some credit, man.
They give you credits every month.
And those are for books.
So you're paying for books that you haven't
bought.
And so Tina's like, hey, can I?

(01:52:06):
I'm sorry?
Yes.
So you're buying books every month, whether you
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So I look, I have 12 credits.
For 12 books?
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I can download 12 more books, but I
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It's like it's like a library that has
you chained your shackles.

(01:52:28):
Huh?
Yeah.
Silicon Valley.
That's no good.
So anyway, get one of those modern podcast
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Not this podcast, not the best podcast in
the universe or any other podcast.
Unless it's removed at the source, but it

(01:52:48):
won't go away.
Like things have been known to disappear from
Spotify.
And if you listen to podcasts with ads
on Spotify, they're not, you can't skip them.
How about that?
Nonsense.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If you listen to a podcast on Spotify
that is hosted by arguably the largest ad

(01:53:09):
insertion company, Megaphone, which they purchased, you cannot
skip the ads in your Spotify app.
How about that?
That's, well, it's good for the advertiser.
It's great for the advertiser.
It's great for the modern podcast apps because
you can skip them there.
Podcastapps.com.
Should be able to skip anything.

(01:53:30):
You should be able to skip anything you
want.
You should be able to skip the ads,
the content, whatever you want to skip, you
should be able to skip.
Nope.
Can't do it.
So we run this.
What kind of control is that?
This is not helping the end user.
Remember the promise?
It'll be great.
You will control everything.

(01:53:53):
You don't control anything.
Just like we're not controlled because we have
the value for value model.
So we're not controlled about what we say,
how we say it, when we say it,
our own thinking about what we talk about.
There's no control about that.
Value for value means we're free to give
you top-notch value as a service to
humanity.

(01:54:14):
We're happy to do it.
All we ask for in return is that
from time to time, whenever you feel the
need, whenever you feel that you've received enough
value or it's just so valuable, you need
to send something back, you can do it
with time, talent, and treasure.
Actually, I got a note from Zach.
He's thinking of starting a value for value
bakery for cookies.

(01:54:36):
He says, so he has a break room,
about 60 people in the company, and they
have a family business.
He'd be robbed blind if he was in
San Francisco.
He says he wants to try it.
No, he's not in San Francisco.
He says, do you think it will work?
He says it costs about 15 cents a
cookie, sometimes a little more to make them.

(01:54:58):
Actually, it's between 15 cents and a dollar.
Do you think that value for value will
work in the break room with about 60
people in the company?
And I'm like, you should try it.
Let us know.
I have a feeling.
It's like the honor bar.
It's like the honor farms that we have
in Washington State.
They work, right?
It's like the honor.
They work, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.

(01:55:19):
And then there's the honor bar.
And a lot of companies have a little
thing where they have a bunch of candy
and you're supposed to donate to the candy
fund.
I mean, this is not an unusual situation.
Yeah.
If you have honest employees.
But if you have one or two criminals,
it doesn't take that much.

(01:55:40):
It ruins it for everybody.
Yeah.
We don't want criminals.
Criminals are no good.
You have a value for value stooges who
snitch and post everybody's name who didn't leave
some money.
No, just put it in cameras.
That's the way to go.
Part of our value for value is time
and talent, along with the treasure.

(01:56:01):
And the time and talent comes most frequently
in the form of end-of-show mixes.
We appreciate all of our end-of-show
mixers.
And our artists who post to noagendaartgenerator.com,
which seems to be, I'd say, about 99
% AI now.
I've just given up.
I've given up.
But the last batch, we had a lot
to choose from, all AI.

(01:56:22):
And none of it really spectacular.
It's OK.
It's clean-looking.
It looks good.
It was data who brought us really the
one that we liked the most, which was
the just very sad-looking Bambi in front
of the burning Hollywood sign.
But it wasn't something that people went, wow,
that's awesome.
That's great art.

(01:56:43):
People just don't do that.
No, not with some of this stuff.
No.
And it's crazy that Darren O'Neill, who
has no other skills that we know of,
has somehow figured out how to be a
fan.
He's one of the best guys I've seen
do this stuff.
He's one of the best prompt jockeys I've
ever— I mean, he could get a job

(01:57:03):
anywhere.
No, instead, he spends his time, all six
foot six of him, just making art for
us.
And we can't choose Darren all the time.
We just can't.
I did choose him again for the newsletter.
I know you did.
So we like data.
We like what data did.

(01:57:24):
Let's see what else there was.
It was just all— I feel bad for
our Dutch masters.
They've given up.
They've just given up.
I'm not going to do it.
I can't do it.
I can't do it.
AI has ruined, ruined art.
Ruined it.
A lot of gay fire hydrants.
Okay, we got it.

(01:57:44):
A lot of babes dressed up as fire
women, which is like— I felt it was
just inappropriate.
You know, like, eh.
I did like a Comixford blogger who came
in fast and hard with a butt with
a thermometer stuck in it.
Good job, Comixford blogger.

(01:58:04):
Yeah, we're going to choose that one.
I like the DEI dropping Gatorade.
Yeah, but the problem I had with it
is you— who did that?
Kakondi.
You couldn't— I mean, unless you— I mean,
I look at the Gatorade logo.
I'm not a sports ball guy, and so
it just didn't— it didn't register for me.
Yeah, it didn't register.

(01:58:24):
You didn't know what it was.
It's G.
Yeah, I'm like, what's the G for?
I don't get it.
Yeah, Gatorade.
Actually, it turns out— I have some clips
on what that stuff is.
Do you know about the fire suppressants?
Technically, no, but I would be interested.
I'm glad you're interested.
And it's not green.
It is red.
Have you ever wondered what the fire retardant

(01:58:46):
that air tankers drop during a wildfire is?
And what do you do if any of
that fire retardant gets on your vehicle or
your home?
There's a question.
Let's break it down and talk about what
fire retardant is.
First, wildland firefighting retardant is primarily made of
water.
In fact, 85% of the chemical compound
is water.
The remainder of it, 10%, is fertilizer.

(01:59:08):
Various different fertilizers can make up fire retardant,
and that fertilizer does a couple things.
One, it cools down the vegetation, coating the
brush, the trees, with the retardant so that
by the time the fire gets to it,
it slows down the fire.
It takes out the heat so that firefighters
on the ground can actually put the fire

(01:59:28):
out.
The last remaining is 5% of other
minor ingredients, one of those being the color.
We dye it red, this kind of pinkish
color, specifically because that's the easiest for our
pilots in the air to see where the
retardant has been dropped.
In some cases, we're going to connect drop
after drop after drop.
And so we want to make sure that

(01:59:48):
it's easily visible.
And so we use a very high, powerful
color like this red.
We've tested other colors before, but it's this
reddish color, this light reddish color, that really
is the best.
You know, I was just thinking, now with
red dye number three on the chopping block,
do you think that that's worth two?
I don't know which number it is.
Three, number three.
Do you think that's what they use?
Red dye number three?

(02:00:09):
Well, they probably do.
It's one of the great dyes of the
world.
Well, it's for both of them.
Killing everybody.
And here's the other thing.
Doesn't fertilizer, fertilizers used to make bombs.
I know, I found that peculiar myself.
The Anfo bomb.
But the guy does like saying retardant.
It's like, I get to say the R
word.
Retardant, retarded.
Oh, I said retardant.
I'm sorry, what did I say?

(02:00:30):
So here's the question you really want to
know.
What happens if you get it on you?
Now, if you live within a fire area
and you get fire retardant on you, your
home or your car, here are some steps
on what to do.
First, the things you should do.
First, wash it off with water.
The sooner, the better.
Whether that's yourself, again, your vehicle or your
home, you want to get it off.

(02:00:50):
That fertilizer, that component of the retardant can
do damage to your paint or even your
skin if left untreated.
If your skin gets on it, you want
to wash it with gentle soap.
You might want to have some moisturizer, some
lotion because it could dry out the skin.
What you don't want to do is let
your pets get into the fire retardant.

(02:01:11):
Foscheck being one of the many retardant chemicals,
brands that are out there.
Be careful not to leave it in standing
water that other animals may drink out of.
The retardant has ingredients like ammonia, which may
burn if it gets into- Dude, they
have fertilizer and ammonia?
No, that fertilizer is ammonium nitrate.
That stuff burns.

(02:01:31):
That's the stuff you use to make bombs.
That's crazy.
And into your skin.
So you want to make sure that you're
cleaning it off really quickly.
You can use a garden hose.
Go on top of your roof.
If you have water.
Spray it down on your home.
Cars with smooth surfaces, typically that fire retardant
will come off very easily.
If not, you can take a brush or

(02:01:51):
a rag and just help to scrub it
off.
Again, mostly water will help get it.
No, there you go.
Wow, that was a very educational clip for
the audience.
Bonus clip.
It's a bonus clip.
Bonus clip.
Was there anything else on the art we
needed to discuss?
I thought, by the way, Sir Shuggs, your
phone out of minutes was funny.

(02:02:13):
It didn't quite come across.
I thought it was a funny bit.
You said you had to fill up your
phone.
And then trying to put like so-called
lesbians saving Bambi in the forest.
You liked it.
I did not.
I didn't say anything about that clip.
Clip?
The art.
I mean, about that piece of art.
You're talking about the lesbians with the Bambi?

(02:02:34):
No, the ones I liked.
No, I did like the lesbian ones with
the fire dykes.
That's the one I liked.
I don't think...
Completely unrealistic women.
Well, I didn't want to pick it.
This is a Scaramanga, you know, cheesecake pick.
Speaking of Scaramanga, he has rejected his...
Yeah, I noticed.
Yeah, I figured that was going to happen.

(02:02:57):
He's a...
He rejected...
That's not his real name.
We don't know who he is.
He's some sort of guy.
Maybe he's the most...
Could be some commercial New York artist, for
all we know.
And he's trying to hide out.
He doesn't want to know...
He doesn't want to give his address out.
He rejected.
He rejected his Masters of Fine...
He says, no, no, no.
Printing and sending a document that's unnecessary.
It's like giving a medal to a cheetah

(02:03:19):
for running fast.
Kind of an interesting analogy.
Yes, and I will read that he says,
for this rumor that I hate the show,
let's squash that nonsense right here.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
I'm guessing this is just one of your
running gags.
Still, I admit I got a little spun
up last year by the feral trolls on

(02:03:40):
NAS.
Despite the vermin infestation, I found some decent
folk there and even made a few friends.
If my ire came through, blame it on
a rough patch.
He did have some issues, personal issues.
I've been a fan of yours since the
early aughts when I was studying technology in
college.
Adam, I'll be honest.
Back then, all I knew about you was
that you were an emaciated, possibly gay, former
MTV VJ with immaculate hair.

(02:04:01):
Possibly gay.
He nailed it.
He nailed it.
I missed the memo on your genius.
My bad.
No hard feelings.
I've never had hard feelings.
It's John who has the problem.
I got no problem.
I got no problem.
My coot.
Your coot, exactly.

(02:04:23):
It's the coot that has the problem.
Cooties.
Coot problems.
Thank you very much to Data for the
artwork for episode 1729.
We titled that Algo Chasers and I see
that we have some more fine Algo artwork
that has come in.
It'll be another fun job to choose from
that.

(02:04:43):
It's tough.
It's very, very tough.
So there is plenty of time, plenty of
time to get your submissions in.
noagendaartgenerator.com Anybody can participate and they're not
just used for album art for the show.
We use other pieces for newsletters, for bat
signals, and of course, Dreb Scott does a
great job putting together our chapters in the

(02:05:05):
Modern Podcast app, which will rotate on your
dashboard when you usually get in the car.
Now to the treasure part, we thank everybody
who sends us $50 or above.
We mention who, the amount, where you're from,
complete transparency, unlike any other model within any
broadcast organization.
And we have special titles, which are very

(02:05:27):
Hollywood, so they are official.
We feel it's only appropriate that if you
are a producer, you are able to get
a credit, an official credit.
An associate executive producer, $200 or more, and
we'll read your note.
An executive producer, $300 or more, and we'll
read your note.
And all of these can be used anywhere
credits are recognized, which includes imdb.com.
Now we start with a rather long note,

(02:05:49):
but we don't have that many, so I'll
read through it.
Julian Swan is in Westmoreland, Tennessee.
Jumps in right away, the first time in
weeks, maybe months, we've had an instant night.
Yep.
How long has it been since we've had
an instant night?
We haven't had one since last year.
Okay.
$1,000, he says.

(02:06:11):
It's been a while, old friends.
I've been a listener ever since episode 605
back in 2014.
I've been to many different meetups, mostly in
the Atlanta area.
Then we got saved and moved to Nashville,
Tennessee for a church that stayed open during
the fake virus.
That's one of the few.
That's great.
I'm so glad to hear of your salvation,
Adam.

(02:06:31):
Welcome to the army of the son of
God.
We need all the good men we can
get in this fight.
That's right.
The spiritual war.
You guys were fundamental in my awakening.
I, oops, it's hard to scroll here.
I wouldn't be where I am today without
you.
Your ability to extract narratives from their pigeonhole
position in the mainstream media and draw them
out to a greater sphere of understanding, dissecting

(02:06:52):
them from multiple different angles.
This process armed me with a rational and
logical mind.
I used to obliterate cultural narratives everywhere I
heard them.
This did not do much for my popularity.
No, no, that usually doesn't.
But at least it made people think.
Today, my wife and I teach equity jurisprudence.
Wow.
We help people learn how to present themselves

(02:07:14):
in court without an attorney.
Well, that's actually very interesting.
We have many credible victories and we have
seen miracles happen that you would scarcely believe.
We also teach a class on trusts and
how to protect your assets and businesses without
contracting with the state.
Our website is standingontherock.com.

(02:07:36):
Standingontherock.com.
It's still under construction, but there's a good
introductory video there about what we do.
Thank you guys so much.
I could seriously not have done it without
you both.
There were a good seven or eight years
there that I did not miss a single
minute of a single episode.
I did get mad at John one time
for shutting down a conversation about terrain theory,
and I admit I was mean to Adam
on No Agenda Social about it.

(02:07:58):
I repent of my sins.
I bless you both in the name of
Jesus.
Please knight me, Sir Swan, of the equitable
remedies.
I love you guys.
I credit you both as my original mentors
and spiritual fathers.
God makes his face to shine upon you
both.
Godspeed from Julian Swan.
And we shall be knighting him later.
Thank you very much, Julian.
What is he talking about, about this terrain

(02:08:18):
thing?
I'm sure it's something you went, that's bullcrap,
back in the NAS days.
Don't fret over it.
I fret over everything.
Yeah.
That's what coots do.
Sir PDR-ist, P-D-R-tist, in
Leeuwarden.

(02:08:42):
Yeah, Netherlands.
It's 350-58.
Good morning, gents.
First of all, I would like to wish
you both a very happy and prosperous new
year, with the 10th anniversary, or 10th birthday,
of our beautiful daughter, Lily Louise, coming up
next Saturday.
I decided it was time to send some
of my pre-Trump crypto gains to my
friends at the other end.

(02:09:03):
Nice.
Please put her on the birthday list, and
can we get her some goat karma as
well, please?
Thanks.
And thank you for keeping us sane in
these crazy times.
Guys, keep up the good work.
Love and light.
It's Sir PDR-ist.
Okay, let me try it.

(02:09:24):
Okay, okay.
Bauke Overbosch.
Not that bad.
Bauke.
Bauke.
Bauke.
Bauke.
Bauke Overbosch.
Bauke Overbosch.
Then we have Zachary McClellan from Frankenmuth.

(02:09:45):
Michigan.
And it says, Adam has note.
Now, I'm going to presume, no, I know
that this is the noagendafudge.com, people.
noagendafudge.com.
It is a better idea to send the
note to notes at noagendashow.net?
Well, no, no, no.
This is not right.
I mean, yeah, what you're saying is correct.

(02:10:06):
But the reason it says Adam has notes,
because this is the check that Tina sent
in the mail that you picked up personally,
and I figured if there was a note,
you'd have it.
I put that in there.
Oh, okay.
But still, they should send the note, because
I don't have the note.
This was two weeks ago.
Yeah, but did he say anything?
Did he say hello?

(02:10:26):
Well, there was a nice note, and it
was a great note.
But I don't have the note, and I
don't have the fudge anymore either.
The fudge is gone.
You ate the fudge?
Ate all the fudge.
We ate the first fudge.
We ate within an hour of it coming
in, Tina and I together.
This is a block of fudge.
Yeah, it's a big block of fudge.

(02:10:47):
And they sent us four blocks.
Yeah, he packed a lot of fudge for
you.
He's a fudge packer, and it was just
amazing.
And that was the caramel sea salt.
That's Tina's favorite.
Then we took a second one to our
New Year's, this is how long ago, to
our New Year's Eve gathering at some friend's
house.

(02:11:08):
I don't remember which one we took there.
And everybody ate that fudge.
And then we gave the turtle fudge to
Pastor Jimmy and Annette.
And they hated us for it.
Like, you guys, what did you do to
us?
And then the last one, we ate ourselves.
It's amazing.
noagendafudge.com, 333.33. Well, the note's lost

(02:11:31):
to history.
Yeah, but it was a beautiful note.
That's nice.
That's nice.
And thank you very much, noagendafudge.com.
I told you, we went to our New
Year's Eve dinner, and a person there went,
it's Frankenmuth fudge, I can't believe it.
We had the same experience.

(02:11:52):
Jesse, JC's wife, Jesse Christensen, she was raised
in Michigan.
Everybody in Michigan knows about these guys.
Eric Dardarian's next on the list.
He's in Trabuco Canyon, California.
He came in with $333, and he has
a very good note.

(02:12:13):
It's kind of the best note that we
have on the show so far, and he
says, thank you.
Sir Eric Dardarian, and we thank you indeed.
Lindsey Frick is in Aurora, Illinois.
Switcheroo!
Okay.
This 333 donation credit is for my dad,
Larry, for his birthday.
Okay, so I'm gonna put Larry in there.

(02:12:34):
Hold on, Larry, Larry.
I presume his name is Larry Frick.
We don't...
Oh, Copilot just said something.
Uh-oh.
So I just changed the cell on my
Excel sheet.
Up pops a dialogue, Copilot.
New!
Copilot included in your Microsoft 365 plan.

(02:12:56):
Microsoft 365 is now enhanced with Copilot, our
powerful AI companion that makes completing tasks a
breeze.
Oh, Clippy!
Your subscription unlocks AI credits, credits to experience
Copilot across 365 apps and beyond.

(02:13:18):
Oh, get started.
Oh, Copilot just popped up.
What's it gonna do for me?
Is it gonna change it?
Oh, autosave is turned off.
I only work with files that have autosave
turned on.
Turn it on to continue.
All right.
Does it say that?
Yes, and then it...
Oh, please.
Now pops a box to the top.
So it's gonna lecture you about autosave and

(02:13:39):
all the rest of it.
So that's the convenience of this.
It's gonna tell you, damn, you're not doing
it right.
So check it out.
So I click turn on autosave.
It then goes to the top left of
the Excel app.
And it says, how do I turn on
autosave?
And it has a little box there.
Before autosave can save your file, you need
to fix the following.

(02:14:00):
The file was created in unsupported file format.
Please select file save as to update the
file format.
Oh, please.
And then this file needs to be saved
to the cloud first.
And so I hit the autosave button on.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It won't even do it unless I save
it to the cloud.
Screw you, pilot.
Co-pilot.
Horrible.

(02:14:21):
How about that?
And why?
Why?
Because they need to...
Because they want this data in their cloud
so they can steal the data.
Yes, there you go.
Anyway, this donation credit is for my dad,
Larry's birthday on January 17th.
Please de-douche it.
You've been de-douched.
And wish Larry Jr. a very happy birthday

(02:14:43):
as an executive producer.
A family that no agendas together stays together.
Okay, we go on to Ty Glander in
Kirkland, Washington, home of Costco.
Uh, $3.15.85. Not a switcheroo.
Sir Libre's birthday was Saturday.

(02:15:05):
It's another birthday.
He hosts the podcasting 2.0 value for
value lightning thrasher show.
SirLibre.com lightning-thrasher or thrash lightning-thrasher.
Thrashes.
Thrashes, yes.
You know this podcast?
Yeah, I do.
It's heavy metal value for value music.

(02:15:27):
I sure do.
Sir Libre is a big contributor to the
value for value podcasting 2.0 community.
He's a very important guy.
And now that I know he lives in
the home of Co- So we went
to Costco, Tina and I, on Tuesday.
Yeah.
We walked out of there and like we
could not believe what we had spent on

(02:15:47):
really not a lot of stuff.
The price is- You always spend $150
to $200.
$200 used to be my average.
Twice that.
$400?
Yes.
On what?
A chicken.
A chicken?
A chicken is five bucks.
No, chicken is $6 a pound for chicken
breasts.
Oh, you bought the chick- Oh, $6

(02:16:08):
a pound.
You must have spent a fortune on chicken.
Well, we bought some other stuff.
100 pounds of chicken.
But you know, the one thing they still
have is the $1.50 hot dog in
a drink, which people revolted over them trying
to raise the price on that.
Yeah.
Well, it's a scam.
Why?

(02:16:28):
Well, I am a long time consumer of
the Costco $1.50 hot dog and drink.
So first off, the bun is only 60
% the size of the dog.
It sticks out on both sides.
It's a puny bun.
They skimp on the bun.

(02:16:48):
Second, the drink container is smaller than it
used to be.
I don't know sizes, but it's smaller.
Third, you can only now get Pepsi products.
There's no root beer.
There's no Dr. Pepper.
It's only Pepsi or Diet Pepsi or water.
Well, that's just your place because none of
that's going on here.
The buns are the same as they always

(02:17:09):
have been.
The container size is the same.
It's some scam going on your local store.
Third, the onion grinder has been removed.
Yes, that has happened everywhere.
I like the onion grinder.
I like the onion grinder too.
Third, they no longer put it in a
heat sealing bag.
It's just a brown paper bag.

(02:17:30):
So if you don't eat it there, it's
going to be cold by the time you
get in the car.
This is no good.
I'm very upset with Costco.
Well, the big upset should be with the
pre-cooked chicken, which they've taken out of
the container, which gave me my tip of
the day, which you could tell it was
really the right chicken or not.
I thought they put it back.
No, as far as I can tell, at

(02:17:52):
least locally here, this just goes into some
crummy bag, some sort of a bag that
accumulates the juice.
So if the bag happens to have a
little tear in it or something, it gets
all over the car.
It's a nightmare.
All right.
Thank you very much, Ty Glenn.
Well, I should have a bonus tip of
the day about Costco.

(02:18:12):
Michael Romano, Petaluma, California.
Hey, Petaluma.
We know Petaluma.
Home of broken networks.
First associate executive producer, 237.
ITM gents, this is dedicated to my son,
Dario Romano, to celebrate his first birthday and
start him out right on his path to
knighthood.
Please put him on the birthday list as

(02:18:33):
well as we will be celebrating on the
17th as he's our little bringer of goodness.
Oh, good.
He's on the list.
Thank you, Michael.
And there we go to...
Oh, look who it is.
It's Eli the Coffee Guy in Bensonville, Illinois.
$201.16. And he says, I watched Biden's
farewell speech.

(02:18:54):
Yeah.
Say what you want about the man, but
I'll miss him.
His vacuous platitudes, mumbling nonsense, and gaffes.
Although it wasn't Eisenhower's plowshare speech.
By the way, I think Biden was trying
to pull an Eisenhower.
Oh, yeah.
With the tech industrial complex, which, funny enough,

(02:19:14):
spells tick.
It's like, okay.
Yeah, that's good.
All right, Biden.
Biden warned the people about the oligarchy.
Yes.
Which nobody knows what that even means.
The tech industrial complex and AI.
History doesn't...
You know, I didn't get any clips from

(02:19:36):
this thing.
I think I actually...
Did I get a Biden clip?
I think I might have.
Yeah, if you do, I want to hear
it.
Yes, I do.
History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme.
Can I get jingles?
Don't sniff me, Biden, and whole load.
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good coffee, visit gigawattcoffeeroaster.com.

(02:20:00):
What a segue.
Code ITM for your 20% off your
first order.
No joke.
Stay caffeinated, Eli the Coffee Guy.
I'm gonna give you the whole load today.
That's disgusting.
You want to hear a speech?
I got a speech.
Yeah, play it.
It was a message of both hope and
warning.

(02:20:20):
Hope and warning.
In his final days in the White House,
President Biden wished the incoming Trump administration success
but said American democracy was under threat.
Today, an oligarchy is taking shape in America
of extreme wealth, power, and influence that literally
threatens our entire democracy, our basic rights and

(02:20:40):
freedoms.
Biden could be referring to Donald Trump himself,
but also some of those closest to him.
Invoking the words of Dwight Eisenhower, who in
his own farewell speech in 1961 expressed concerns
about the military-industrial complex, Biden took aim
at big tech.
I'm equally concerned about the potential rise of

(02:21:01):
a tech-industrial complex that could pose real
dangers for our country as well.
Americans are being buried under an avalanche of
misinformation and disinformation, enabling the abuse of power.
The free press.
Clearly aimed at the free press.
I think I like doing these clips during

(02:21:22):
the donation segment because all those douchebags who
skip over it, they miss all the best
stuff.
It's like our little secret, our little secret.
Don't tell, please, don't.
If you're listening now, don't tell anybody.
You say, yeah, I heard that.
And they're like, well, you heard that on
NOAA agenda?
Yeah, I heard it.
You didn't hear it?
What's wrong with you?
Your ears clogged or something?
Did you listen to the right show?
What's wrong with you?

(02:21:43):
Linda Lou Patkin, Lakewood, Colorado, $200.
Oh, here we go.
Let me get ready for it.
I'll make sure I do this right.
It's time for me to do a perfect
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Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
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Nailed it!
Oh my.
And last on the list or close to
the last is Giselle Woodses.

(02:22:26):
Gisella.
It's Gisella.
Gisella Woodses.
Wadses, Wadses, Wadses.
There you go.
W-O-D-Z-I-S-E.
I'm not sure how to pronounce it.
Seems like a Polish name and I should
be able to pronounce it.
North Royalton, Ohio, 200 bucks.

(02:22:46):
My name is Gisella.
It's Italian.
Woodses, Polish.
I was right.
I submitted $200 donation today for my smoking
hot husband, Tom, for his birthday this Friday,
January 17th.
He's on the list.
Tom introduced me to the show a year
or two ago.

(02:23:07):
I was reluctant at first but gave it
another shot and have been a loyal listener
ever since.
We both need a de-douching.
You've been de-douched.
Keep up the great work and we love
the show.
Four more years.
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And that completes our list of executive and

(02:23:29):
associate executive producers interspersed with some clips other
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Don't sniff me, Joe Biden.

(02:24:17):
Nice.
Okay, it's starting.
It's starting.
It's starting.
We heard the Surgeon General come out and
say, drinking gives you cancer.
Which, of course, has been known for many
years.
I think it already is on many labels
already.

(02:24:38):
May cause cancer or may cause birth defects.
I mean, it's not like an unknown thing.
But then the Surgeon General came out.
It was a whole flurry.
And we were like, you know, maybe there's
some report that's going to drop.
Maybe something bad is going to happen.
I will note that although not in the
United States, the Daily Mail reports another mystery

(02:25:04):
cancer explosion, unexpected surge, death rates double, making
it UK's fastest rising cancer killer.
And it's liver cancer, interestingly enough.
Here in the United States, we are clearly,
and this goes back to a very old
no agenda theory, clearly want to kill people

(02:25:26):
by making them drink more.
Joining us now is professor at Northwestern University
Medical School and WGN Morning News medical contributor,
Dr. Lauren Streicher.
Good morning.
Good morning.
Alcohol and the Surgeon General.
What is this big topic of discussion?
Because, of course, the Surgeon General wants there
to be a warning on every bottle of
alcohol, not just a warning, but like a

(02:25:46):
neon sign that says, do not drink this.
Now, we know from the cigarette warnings in
Europe, when you have big signs that say
this is going to kill you, what happens,
John?
Sales go up.
And when you look at this controversy, there's
really a lot of different aspects because there's

(02:26:07):
the medical and then there's the political and
then there's the financial and then there's the
cultural.
So let's stick to the medical for a
second, OK?
It is not a controversy.
We've known this for a long time, that
alcohol is associated with seven different kinds of
cancers, maybe more.
Breast cancer.
One out of six women that has breast
cancer, it can be attributed to alcohol.

(02:26:27):
A lot of other, of course, medical conditions
that go along with alcohol.
Not a controversy.
Fifty percent of people, there was a study
that was done, have no clue.
They do not know.
They are not aware that drinking alcohol can
cause cancer, which is what this is all
about.
So the controversy is, how much?
Is it OK to have a little alcohol?

(02:26:49):
Should there be no alcohol?
Medical experts are all over the map on
that because there's so many other circumstances that
are going to impact on how much alcohol
is going to harm someone, other risk factors
for cancer, etc.
But that doesn't really matter.
What really matters is the idea that there
is an association.
But then we get into the bigger picture.

(02:27:10):
OK, first of all, is it going to
make a difference?
Now, how many people read those teeny little
labels?
Is that going to change their activity?
Is that going to change their decision making
process?
No, no.
We need the big labels.
Big labels.
In fact, they're not going to read a
little.
They don't even read the label on the
bottle itself.
I mean, you're just like you.

(02:27:31):
Hey, so what was that wine you had?
Oh, I had a great wine the other
day at dinner.
What was it?
What was it?
What was it called?
It was red.
It was a red wine.
I don't know what it was called.
Nobody even looks at the label, let alone
the little label.
So, of course, we are suggesting that possibly,
possibly, some of these COVID vaccines might possibly

(02:27:52):
have been responsible.
The timing seems to correlate with correlation is
not causation.
But over in the UK, something interesting is
happening.
Dozens of British women, after having their COVID
jabs, are reporting ballooning breasts.

(02:28:13):
Yes, we've had a clip about this a
couple of shows, two, three shows ago, and
I was convinced at the time, and I'm
now more convinced than ever with this newest
report, that this is a marketing ploy.
It's a great marketing ploy.
They have pictures.
They have before and after.
But I'm saying it's not just a little.
This, like, boom, woman went from a B

(02:28:36):
cup to a triple G within six months.
Well, yeah, that was the...
But it's only Pfizer.
So I think your theory is right.
Of course.
I think your theory is right.
I think you're right.
It is only Pfizer.
Yes.
We do luckily have a new ploy by
the pharmaceutical industrial complex known as PIC.

(02:29:01):
And they've come up...
So desperately, we desperately need to get Ozempic
and other GLP-1 drugs into Medicare.
We need it.
Americans need it.
So if it's going to be obesity, we
don't have enough obese people.
So what do you do in the world

(02:29:22):
of marketing if obesity will be the trigger
to get your GLP-1, Reed, Norvo Nordisk
products paid for by the society?
I mean, we've got a lot of obese
people, but it's just not enough.
What can we do to get more people

(02:29:44):
on this?
Come on, you're a marketing guy.
You know this.
Well, erectile dysfunction is your basic thesis.
I think that would be the best one
to do.
No, no, no.
Have we gotten to that yet?
Not yet.
We're not there yet.
No, this is even better.
This is even better.
Health check.
New guidance from a team of health experts
around the world proposes expanding the definition of
obesity.

(02:30:04):
We need to expand the definition of obesity.
Yeah.
My doctor once pointed out to me years
ago about how the levels of what's safe
cholesterol.
Exactly.
He's watching over 30 years, keeps going up.
Yeah.
The pills, they peak out at the status
peak.
Ah, let's just jack the number up.
Health check.
New guidance from a team of health experts
around the world proposes expanding the definition of

(02:30:27):
obesity.
The commission on clinical obesity recommends reducing the
emphasis on body mass index, known as BMI.
The panel proposed also taking into account someone's
body fat measurements and the presence of existing
health issues when diagnosing someone as obese.
The report also introduces two new diagnostic categories,
clinical obesity and preclinical obesity.

(02:30:48):
Oh, no, preclinical, preclinical, pre-obesity, pre-obesity.
Why don't you just call it that?
Well, they will.
I'm pre-obese.
This is unbelievable.
No, it's completely believable.
Meanwhile, it's totally.
Where's Kennedy?
Doctors have have discovered that there is a

(02:31:11):
yet another new side effect of these GLP
-1 products, a condition called allodynia.
Oh, the eyeball thing?
No, it's hypersensitivity to pain.
Wearing clothing can even feel painful, even wind
blowing on your skin.

(02:31:32):
But that's not good.
But we haven't discussed the blindness thing, too.
That was the real kicker.
No, we talked about the blindness.
We talked about the blindness.
Some people describe the sensation on their skin
as being like bad sunburn with the sensation
of touch triggering a sharp, stinging or burning
pain.

(02:31:53):
This is just.
Are they taking ecstasy with this and getting
this combination effect?
I don't know.
Dr. Dvorak, once again, you make a valid
point.
And down under in Australia, we have actually
found something in mosquitoes that can kill us.
It's great.
And it's from Japan.

(02:32:14):
Tiny carriers of a deadly disease.
Seizures, severe brain damage and death.
Japanese encephalitis is endemic to the Torres Strait
and Asia.
There, it causes around 20,000 deaths each
year.
Health authorities have issued a nationwide Japanese encephalitis
alert.
In early 2022.
Hold on, stop the clip.

(02:32:36):
20,000 a year now coming to light.
Are you kidding me?
That number is way too high.
I'm not kidding you.
I'm just playing clips on a podcast.
It's it's Japanese encephalitis, which they say encephalitis
for some reason.
But we say encephalitis, which is your brain
swelling until it blows out of your head.

(02:32:58):
Nationwide Japanese encephalitis alert.
In early 2022, Australia had its first cluster,
31 cases and six deaths.
And now an ominous warning.
In the worst case scenario, it's like we
think that at most seven to 800,000
people could be exposed.
The virus is traced back to wading birds,

(02:33:18):
which are flocking in greater numbers to new
wetlands that have been created by Queensland's third
La Nina event.
Mosquitoes then spread the virus from birds to
humans.
It can also be transmitted through pigs.
A very large number of pig farms became
infected.
One in 25 people exposed to the virus
are estimated to catch it.
Most are asymptomatic, but symptoms can range from

(02:33:40):
fever to seizures.
A large number, unfortunately, go on to die
because there is no drug treatment for Japanese
encephalitis.
And of those people who survive, then a
large number also go on to exhibit significant
neurological kind of issues.
There are two vaccines available, but supply is
limited.
The worst case scenario, then there are there
are many more people who need vaccination than

(02:34:01):
we have than we have doses of vaccine.
So I think that's where the extreme concern
comes from.
I'm very concerned.
Extreme concern.
Not enough vaccines.
Pre-order.
Pre-order them.
Japanese encephalitis.
Is that all these guys do on the
news thing is try to scare the public?
Yeah.
And then promote vaccines and scare the public,

(02:34:22):
promote vaccines.
That's their job.
Yes.
So MSNBC president Rashida Jones is out.
Yes.
She's out.
She was on her way out.
Meanwhile, Rachel Maddow, your gal, will host nightly
shows on MSNBC for Trump's first 100 days.
We're all excited.

(02:34:43):
They're paying her so much money.
Somebody took a look at the books and
said, can we make this girl work a
little bit more?
No kidding.
And Chuck Dodd has left NBC once again.
I thought he was left for good last
time.
He keeps leaving.
When did he get back?
I didn't hear that part.
He had a contract for specials or whatever.

(02:35:06):
Chuck Todd has quietly been meeting with Washington
media organizations about his post NBC future.
Oh, I know where he's going.
He's going to work for Jennifer Rubin.
Yes, of course.
I'm here at the, what was it?
The contrarian.
Contrarian.
Contrary to what?

(02:35:27):
Contrary to good content.
What are they contrary to?
Sounds like a bunch of Democrat, you know,
knee-jerk Democrats.
Chuck Todd will be the new Joe Rogan
of the left.
We're looking.
Some say it's going to be Kelsey's girlfriend
or wife.
What's her name?
Tyler.
Is her name Tyler?
Tyler Kelsey.

(02:35:47):
Taylor.
Is it Taylor?
Taylor Swift Kelsey.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
It's the sister.
It's the, ah, hold on a second.
I need to know this.
This is gossip that I'm unaware of.
Tyler.
Yes.
Which is a male name.
I should mention.
Is it not?
Maybe it's not Tyler.
Oh, man.

(02:36:07):
Let me see.
Hold on a second.
Kelsey woman troll room.
Get to work.
Kelsey woman podcast.
Let me see.
What's her name?
Kylie.
It's Kylie.
Not going to lie with Kylie.
There you go.
Not going to lie with Kylie.
It's great.
It's highly produced.
Each episode is exactly 45 minutes.

(02:36:29):
No, that's podcasting at its essence.
And she does clips on YouTube.
Not going to lie with Kylie Kelsey.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
It's presented by Dunkin Donuts.
So, you know, it's quality.

(02:36:49):
The audience is targeted.
Play your mic clip, man.
I want to play the mic clip.
This is great news.
Tina said, did you hear about this?
What?
All right, here we go.
The mic clip is good.
Former First Lady Michelle Obama has confirmed she
will not attend the upcoming inauguration of President
-elect Trump on January 20th.

(02:37:11):
Her husband, former President Barack Obama, will be
present.
The Obama's office provided no reason for Michelle
Obama's absence.
Her decision follows a similar move earlier this
month when she did not attend the state
funeral for former President Jimmy Carter.
Oh, they didn't have the money shot.
The money.
What is it?
The money shot is they're heading for public

(02:37:33):
divorce.
Oh, well, nobody.
That's not confirmed.
It's in the Daily Mail.
It's not going to happen.
Michelle, you know, and also Obama is hanging
around Jennifer Aniston a little bit too much.
He's found a new guy to hang out
with.
Boy, he can charm her.

(02:37:55):
Oh, yes.
And she needs to be loved.
Jennifer does.
She really needs to be loved.
So I ran into her once, you know,
and had a chat with her.
Really?
At an airport, let me guess, at an
airport.
Yeah, she was in Austin.
I think you've told this story.
Go ahead.
I didn't recognize her because, you know, I

(02:38:16):
wasn't a big friends watcher at the time.
And she was, well, I noticed her, though,
when she was at the ticket counter because
she was next to me at the ticket
counter.
And so I looked at her and I
noticed she had a look about her, but
she had a, she had a, her nose
looked like it had been worked on a
lot.
And it was, I'm sure she used a

(02:38:37):
lot of makeup on it, but it looked
dead.
It was a dead nose.
It's hard to explain, but it was super
white.
And so I go over to the, to
the.
Hey, what's wrong with your nose?
Well, I'm not, I wasn't a coot at
the time.
So we go, I go to the, to
the check-in or the area where you

(02:38:59):
do boarding area.
And I guess she's going to get on
the same plane.
Yeah.
I happened to be in first class.
Yeah.
Upgrade.
I was upgraded.
I was upgraded.
I'm sure.
Yes.
And so there's a bunch of girls running
around all giddy.
And I called one of them aside.
I said, what's going on?
What is, what is everyone all jumpy about
around here?

(02:39:19):
She's always an actress, blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah.
She's, I said, what actress?
She says, she's on friends.
And she never told me who it was.
And I realized who it was.
Cause she lived in Austin, I guess at
the time.
And that was, this flight was going from
Austin to New York or Austin to LA
or something.
That's probably when she and Pitt were in

(02:39:39):
Austin for a bit.
I think they lived in Austin for a
little while.
Yeah, too.
Anyway.
So she, so we got on the plane
and she was right.
And the same aisle I was in and
I chatted with her for a while.
And you went, Hey, what did you chat
about?
And she told me she lived in Austin
and it was just a dumb, I was
going to offer a ride when I got
to where we were going.

(02:40:00):
And you saw the limo and were like,
oops.
No, it wasn't even that one.
As soon as the plane landed and we
all got out, there's like six people that
grabbed her to pick her up.
And that was the last I saw of
her.
She had an entourage waiting for her.
I thought she was pleasant and easy to
talk to, but she was obviously not going

(02:40:21):
to talk after she was out of the
plane.
Ladies and gentlemen, John C.
Dvorak's Brush with Greatness.
It's Brush.
Yeah, Brush.
Oh, hold on.
Hey, turn it off.
Turn off that.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, don't tell me
how to produce the show.
Hey.
Um, okay.
Let me, I got a miscellaneous clip here

(02:40:43):
to play.
Oh, let's play this cultural heritage BS.
Cultural heritage BS.
It comes from NPR.
So obviously.
The World Monuments Fund has released its list
of most endangered places.
NPR's Neta Ulavi reports this year it includes
a Ukrainian museum damaged by Russian missiles and

(02:41:05):
an ancient Turkish city shaken by earthquakes.
The list comes out every two years.
The point is to raise awareness and money
for fragile cultural sites under threat, says World
Monuments Fund President Bénédicte de Moutlard.
Conflict and natural disaster is a very important
category.
That's why all of Gaza was included.

(02:41:27):
The organization said massive destruction of markets, mosques,
churches, and other buildings affects hearts and minds.
Sites endangered by climate change include historic lighthouses
in Maine and Africa's Swahili coast.
Also on the list, the moon.
Under threat by what the World Monuments Fund
describes as exploitative visitation in a space race

(02:41:48):
involving multiple countries and corporations.
Yeah, Musk has just shot off a rocket
to the moon without people on board.
And he's, you know, his space tourism is
going to mess up Neil Armstrong's footprints.
That's the story.
They're very upset about it.
Go easy with your landing there, Musk.

(02:42:09):
Speaking of NPR.
The moon.
Speaking of NPR, the speech police are out.
NPR is the speech police are telling you
how to talk.
Immigration is always in the news.
Yes, it is.
It's always in the news.
Late last week, President Biden extended temporary protected

(02:42:30):
status for folks from Venezuela, El Salvador, and
Ukraine.
And incoming President Trump has vowed to implement
mass deportations, among other things.
Just as the stories are ever evolving, so
too is the language we use to talk
about them.
Here we go.
NPR recently changed its guidance on how we

(02:42:50):
reporters talk about this issue on our air
and in pieces for our website.
Tony Kavan.
Why?
This is new.
This is new.
NPR.
I don't think so.
This is a British affectation.
The guys who used to talk like that
and they used to suck back.

(02:43:12):
Suck back.
It's disgusting.
How we reporters talk about this issue on
our air and in pieces for our website.
Tony Kavan is NPR's managing editor of standards
and practices, and he is here now to
walk us through some of the new guidance.
Hi, Tony.
Hi, Mary Louise.
Hi, Mary Louise.

(02:43:32):
Okay.
So I think you should take notes.
Get out your pen because this is how
we are supposed to talk about immigration.
Spoiler alert.
It's not going to be one word you
can use anymore.
I want to share with everybody the lead
of the email that you sent to all
staff landed in my inbox this morning.

(02:43:54):
It begins, quote, when referring to people who
are in the United States without the government's
permission going forward, we should use the term
people who are in the United States without
legal status.
Wow.
You can't say illegals.
You have to say people who are in
the United States without the proper documents.

(02:44:15):
Going forward.
We should use the term people who are
in the United States without legal status.
I think why don't they just use newcomers?
Newcomers was great.
We approved of newcomers.
End quote.
Newcomers was better than this.
Yeah.
Evan, what's the thinking here?
Well, two things.
I noticed that our own guidance was contradictory
about the use of the term undocumented, both

(02:44:38):
approving it and not approving it.
I just think something didn't get updated.
So I knew it was time to do
something.
This guy is in charge of speech at
NPR.
And I also noticed that the Associated Press
had stopped using undocumented as a description for
people who are here without the government's permission.
So what can we use instead of undocumented,
John?

(02:45:00):
Illegal alien.
That's what I would use.
Many of the people do have documents.
They don't have the right documents.
You got the wrong documents.
Oh, they got the wrong documents.
You got documents.
Yeah, they got like a business card maybe
or they got from the guy who brought
them over, the cartel business card.
They might have a safe house address written

(02:45:23):
on a sheet of paper.
That's a document.
All right, here we go.
The trick here is finding language that is
both clear, that doesn't dehumanize the people we're
talking about and makes the point in as
exact a way as possible.
And we're not somehow coloring the debate by
the language that we use.
Now let's get into the weeds.

(02:45:43):
I want to talk about one other term
that has been used in our coverage.
Plenty of news organizations have used in past
illegal immigrants.
Oh, that's so wrong.
And for people listening who may be scratching
their heads and thinking, okay, but there are
folks who come to the U.S. illegally.
Your note says, NPR journalists, we can use

(02:46:03):
the term, can use the term illegal immigration,
not illegal immigrants.
The distinction being what?
What do you think?
Oh, because a Paris thing can't be illegal.
People are not illegal.
Someone can do something that's illegal, but they
are not in and of themselves.
So President Trump.
So we've gone to grammar.

(02:46:24):
Yes, we cannot say, we should not say
President Trump felon.
No, President Trump, who was convicted of a
felony.
You see, this is where it's going.
1984.
Well, can they get to, if they're going
to go with this grammar, this proper grammar,
what about the phrase false accusation when it's

(02:46:45):
just an accusation?
I think you should write a note to
NPR, to this guy.
They are not in and of themselves illegal.
So we don't want to do that.
No, we don't.
Oh, we don't want to do that.
Basic humanity in our coverage of the people
that we're writing about.
You know, I also mentioned in the same
note that, but we try not to use
terminology that talks about national phenomena when we're

(02:47:08):
going to a flood of immigrants or waves
of immigrants, just because you lose the humanity.
Each one of these people who comes to
this country.
This is all about the, all the, all
the humanity.
No matter whether they entered legally or illegal,
there's a story behind it.
There's an individual story.
Our job is to try and get as
close to those stories as possible.

(02:47:29):
That gets to a kind of golden rule
of thumb in journalism, which is generally better
to use a description than a label.
Give us an example or two that come
to mind.
Well, for example, we should say someone had
crossed the border.
Let me, let me, let me try it
out.
So instead of saying literally Hitler or misogynist

(02:47:52):
or rapist, we should use something different.
Labels are not good.
Well, for example, we should say someone had
crossed the border without permission, or he stayed
in the US after his tourist visa expired.
It really varies on the individual, but to
the extent we can describe a situation, it's
always better than labeling that situation.
And as you know, that's not exclusive to

(02:48:14):
immigration.
Well, we will be paying attention to you
NPR.
Yeah, because they use labels all the time.
And you're right.
Misogynist felon is a label.
How about far right?
Far right.
And by the way, they had the woman
on who, uh, who runs the AFD in
Germany.
Yeah.
And man, does she, she, she was on
Bloomberg.
Yeah.
English could be better, but she's pretty good.

(02:48:36):
Yeah.
But she really gave it to this guy
over use of the word far right.
And she wants to, she went over and
over.
She said, we're not far right.
We are libertarian conservatives.
We are not far right.
We're Libcons.
Libcons.
Libcons.
I like Libcons.
Libcons is good.
She was very, very good about, and she

(02:48:58):
had big, the AFD has big Trump fans.
Yep.
And she went on and on about how
screwed up Germany is.
And she blames it all on Merkel.
Oh yeah.
Merkel.
Whatever happened to Merkel?
She's retired somewhere.
She's in Russia.
Uh, we could not finish up the show,
at least from my perspective, without a making
fun of the new leader of NATO.

(02:49:19):
Uh, we know him as Mark Rutte and
he is out there talking about Russia again.
Faced with suspected Russian sabotage, they're taking action.
After several hours of discussions, the leaders of
NATO countries said they'd be strengthening the Alliance's
presence in the Baltic Sea.
It will involve a range of assets.
Yes.
Including frigates and maritime patrol aircraft.

(02:49:41):
Frigates and stroopwafels for everybody.
Among others, and will enhance our vigilance in
the Baltic.
Yes, enhance.
A small fleet of naval surface drones will
also be deployed.
The aim is to improve surveillance and deterrence
amid a string of incidents in the Baltic
Sea, in which power cables, telecom links, and
gas pipelines have been damaged in the wake

(02:50:03):
of Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
Hybrid.
European leaders and experts alike suspect Moscow have
been behind these acts, known as hybrid warfare.
Hybrid means sabotage.
Hybrid means cyber attacks.
Hybrid means sometimes even assassination attempts.
And in this case, it means hitting on

(02:50:24):
our critical undersea infrastructure, that the Alliance will
not accept that.
Hybrid is something the Alliance will not accept
that.
No more hybrids.
And that we will do everything in our
power to make sure that we fight back.
Fight, we will.
NATO has already provided two ships to monitor

(02:50:44):
undersea infrastructure, as well as Russia's Shadow Fleet.
Ships sailing under foreign flags, which Moscow is
accused of using to export oil to get
around Western sanctions.
The new mission will continue indefinitely.
As the president of Finland, Alexander Stubb, put
it, get used to the new normal.

(02:51:04):
They're soaking the Finns now.
They got the Finns into NATO.
You're right, they're soaking the Finns.
Soaking the Finns.
They're soaking them.
Dummies.
Yeah.
Oh, hybrid.
Hybrid.
Get out of my pants with your hybrid.
Well, since we're getting catching up on internationalism,
I might as well play the Korea mess.

(02:51:26):
I have a clip.
Korea mess.
Oh, that's a big mess.
South Korea's impeached president, Yoon Suk-kyo, was
arrested Wednesday, a first for a sitting president
of the country.
It's the latest turn in a political crisis
sparked by his short-lived declaration of martial
law last month, which eventually saw Yoon hiding
out at his residence for weeks, protected by

(02:51:48):
personal security to avoid authorities who wanted to
detain him on grounds of insurrection.
More than 3,000 police officers marched on
Yoon's residence Wednesday, and a motorcade later took
him to the country's anti-corruption agency, the
CIO, or the Corruption Investigation Office, for high
-ranking officials.
South Korean journalists snapped the moment he stepped

(02:52:09):
out of the car and into the agency's
offices in Gwacheon, just south of Seoul.
Investigators have 48 hours to question him.
After that, they must release him or seek
a warrant to detain him for longer.
In a video message recorded before his detention,
Yoon said he turned himself in for questioning
to avoid any bloodshed.
And disputed the legality of the investigation and

(02:52:30):
arrest.
Today, when I saw them break into the
security area using firefighting equipment, I decided to
respond to the CIO's investigation, despite it being
an illegal investigation, to prevent unsavory bloodshed.
However, that doesn't mean I am acknowledging the
investigation of the CIO.

(02:52:51):
Earlier in the morning, scuffles broke out between
Yoon's supporters and police who were trying to
arrest him.
His lawyers have said the arrest warrant is
illegal.
They say it was issued by a court
in the wrong jurisdiction and the team set
up to investigate him has no legal mandate
to do so.
Lawmakers voted to impeach Yoon last month, after

(02:53:13):
his martial law order on December 3 ushered
in unprecedented political turmoil.
In a previous attempt to arrest Yoon on
January 3, the Presidential Security Service and military
guards blocked CIO investigators in a six-hour
standoff.
The agency has since apologized for initially failing
to arrest Yoon on that day.

(02:53:55):
No, no, no, no, no.
We know that he was going through all
the paperwork at the headquarters of the party
because he felt there was some kind of
election shenanigans going on.
That's what we know from boots on the
ground, but we don't know much more.
We don't know enough.
And now he's an insurrectionist?
Hmm, sounds familiar.

(02:54:16):
Let me see, election was bogus because, you
know, he lost all control in Parliament, and
then all of a sudden he questions that,
then you're an insurrectionist.
I think that's the template.
Then they arrest him.
They don't mess around in Korea.
I'm going to play your porn site age
verification clip.
I have one as well, but we'll play

(02:54:39):
this and discuss.
The Supreme Court heard a challenge today to
a Texas law that requires age verification for
adult websites.
A trade group representing adult entertainment performers and
companies argues the law violates the First Amendment.
After two hours of oral argument, a majority
of the court signaled that states should be

(02:54:59):
able to impose some kind of age requirement
for such websites.
This is to ensure that minors can't easily
access obscene material online.
But several justices also flag concerns that their
ruling could spill over and affect other First
Amendment rights.
A decision is expected by this summer.
The Texas law from 2023 is similar to

(02:55:19):
19 others enacted around the United States under
the Texas law.
Adult websites must require all users to submit
personally identifying information, verifying that they are at
least 18 years old.
Challengers, including the American Civil Liberties Union, argue
the law is an unacceptable burden to access
constitutionally protected free speech.

(02:55:42):
Some adult sites have responded by blocking access
entirely in states with age verification laws.
I, this is, government digital ID is inevitable.
It's coming.
It's not going to stop free porn.

(02:56:02):
Pre, free porn or pre-porn?
What did you say?
Free, free porn.
No, you're going to have to, just to
get on the internet.
I'm not sure of this.
I am.
I've been saying this for a long time,
eventually.
Yeah, you've been saying it for a long
time and you're going to keep, and you'll
keep saying it for a long time.
Eventually, I'll be right.
Yeah, I guess you would be.

(02:56:37):
There's a lot of shows still to come.
Of course, that includes John's infamous tip of
the day.
We hope it's not as dangerous as the
previous one.
What you say?
Why?
Because it is dangerous.
Some of his tips are just dangerous to
humanity and privacy.
And John's now going to thank everybody who
supported us.
$50 and above.
We don't mention under 50 for reasons of

(02:56:59):
anonymity.
And here we go.
Yes, yes, indeed.
He said opening up the spreadsheet.
No, I got the spreadsheet.
Radu Pertuk in Vero Beach, Florida starts us
off at 124.33. Richard Lindquist in Squim,

(02:57:19):
Washington, 124.33. This must be an update
of some amount of money.
Not sure what.
Sir Ronald Gardner.
With a 33?
That's interesting.
It doesn't make sense.
No, it doesn't.
Sir Ronald Gardner, San Diego, California, 124.33.
Another one.
And Yaron Snelders in Ennis, Texas.

(02:57:45):
Yaron Snelders.
He says just call him JJ.
It says it right there.
124.33. Another one.
And Jennifer Reen in Snoqualmie, Washington, 124.33.
Yet another one.
I don't know.
Sir Austin in Sammamish, Washington.

(02:58:06):
Got the great names in Washington.
Oh, these are all Indian tribes.
120.25. Oh, that was the...
We got two of the newsletter donation amounts,
two.
Count them, two.
120.25 was your special donation amount.
Oh, that...
Okay, 124.33 was the same thing plus
the fees.

(02:58:26):
Okay, we got it.
So we got a couple.
That's what it was.
Okay, we got a bunch of them then.
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
That was good.
Because the seventh one is Dame Rita.
Our pal there in Sparks, Nevada, 120.25.
That's the celebration of the...
The new year.
The inauguration.
The inauguration.
Peak out on the next Sunday show.
That's right.
So we have one, two, three, four, five,

(02:58:47):
six, seven.
We hope to have more.
Mark Kucharski in Aurora, Colorado, 117.77. He's
on the birthday list.
Lucas Williams in Roswell, New Mexico, 100 bucks.
Kevin McLaughlin, 8008.

(02:59:08):
He's the Archduke of Luna, lover of American
boobs.
And he is requesting F-cancer karma for
the ladies and their sweater puppies, please.
And we have to because he's really a
duke of some...
More than an archduke.
We have to give him that right now.

(02:59:29):
You've got karma.
But he says ghost.
Jonathan Ferris, 8008.
William Rowland in Veredale, Washington, 77.77. Joseph
Weisch in Miami, Florida, 77.77. Russ Curry
in St. Cloud, Florida, 73.77. A birthday

(02:59:50):
list you got.
He reached 70 now.
He's going to be 70.
Right on.
Right arm.
Four more years.
Karaoke.
Karaoke.
Karaoke.
Karaoke.
All right.
Yeah.
Karaoke.
Karaoke.

(03:00:10):
In Freehold, New Jersey, 6009, which is a
lopsided boobs.
That's a happy birthday donation for not quite
a dame karaoke, aka Carrie Brillante in Freehold,
New Jersey.
It's a birthday call out.
Les Tarkowski, 6006 from Kingman, Arizona.

(03:00:32):
Todd Tarson in Clovis, New Mexico, 5720.
Christopher Dechter in 5678.
George Yankova in Chesham, UK, 5678.
Joshua Britt in Spring Hill, Tennessee, 5560.

(03:00:53):
By the way, the UK donation came through
Stripe, which I think is probably easier to
use in the UK, although here's a donation
that came in.
Joshua Britt thanks Jared Shaw from Nashville for
hitting him in the mouth.
Sir Paul in Twickenham, Middlesex, UK, 5555.
John's grouching about low donations in the newsletter

(03:01:15):
does work.
Of course.
Of course it works.
If you don't grouse, nobody pays attention.
That's the way I see it.
Scott Mangle in Exton, Pennsylvania, 5555.
James Edmondson in South Plainfield, New Jersey, 5510.
Gregory Brooks, Mechanicsville, Virginia, 5271.

(03:01:37):
And the rest of these are $50 donors.
I'm just going to read the names and
locations starting with Brandon Savoie, Port Orchard, Washington.
Jared Yaw in Nashville.
Dame Patricia Worthington in Miami.
Kristen Freeman in San Marcos, Texas.
Kevin Dills in Huntersville, North Carolina.

(03:01:57):
Diane Schwanebeck in Johnsburg, Illinois.
I think she comes in almost every week.
Chris Lewinsky, Sir Chris in Shrewett Park, Alberta,
Canada.
Michael Peratt in Salem, Oregon.
North Stonington, Connecticut brings us Easy Landscapes.
Easy Landscapes.

(03:02:19):
Philip Ballew in Louisville, Kentucky.
And last on our list of well-wishers
and producers is Ethan Wellman in Crown Point,
Indiana.
And call out Big Joe as a douchebag.
There you go.
There you go.
Thank you to all of our producers, $50

(03:02:40):
and above.
Anyone underneath will not be mentioned for reasons
of anonymity.
You certainly will understand that.
Of course, that's why you do it.
We see you $49.99. And of course,
our sustaining donors who go to knowagendadonations.com
and enter any amount and any frequency, they
set it, they forget it and support the
show for the rest of their lives.
We love you very much.
knowagendadonations.com.

(03:03:01):
Again, thank you to our executive and associate
executive producers for episode 1730.
We wouldn't have been able to do it
without any of you.
Go to knowagendadonations.com.
Finally, we have a good birthday list.
Sir Steve of Steel Creek wishes his son
Elijah a happy birthday.
He was born on January 7th.

(03:03:22):
Welcome to Gitmo Nation, Elijah.
Ty Glander, happy birthday to Sir Libre.
Celebrate on the 11th.
Lightning thrashes.
Karaoke turned 57 on the 15th.
Russ Corey is turning 70 years old today.
Gisela Wudzis wishes her smoking hot husband Tom
a happy one tomorrow.
Lindsay Frick, her dad Larry, happy birthday to

(03:03:45):
him tomorrow.
Michael Romano wishes his son Dario Lou Romano
a happy one.
He's turning one year old tomorrow.
Mark Kucharski celebrates tomorrow.
Sir Pediatrist wishes his beautiful daughter Lily Louise
a very happy birthday.
She turns 10 on the 18th.
And Lara Beatty wishes her brother Alex a
happy birthday.
He will turn 36 on January 31st.

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Happy birthday from everybody here at the Best
Podcast in the Universe.
We've got two nights.
One of them is Nick who wrote in.
This is a good letter.
I apologize for my tardiness in getting you
this note to claim my knighthood.
The new human resource plus my busy season

(03:04:26):
at work has got me a bit behind,
but I digress.
I'm honored to become a Knight of the
Best Podcast in the Universe.
I knew No Agenda was the podcast for
me and my family when one day in
2022, I walked down the stairs to greet
my wife in the morning.
She returned the good morning and made a
small request.
As I was completing this request, I decided
to start a conversation, which is good to

(03:04:47):
do with your wife.
Before the conversation could get going, she quickly
replied with a shut up slave.
At that moment, it all clicked for me.
We've been hooked for the last three years.
I knew I needed to become a Knight
of the Best Podcast in the Universe.
In my time listening, I've enjoyed attending meetups,
hitting others in the mouth and dropping some
knowledge and the knowledge on the unsuspecting.

(03:05:08):
Thank you for keeping our amygdala shrunk.
Your podcast has become a must listen at
regular speed.
Thank you for your courage and may you
never find an exit strategy.
Requests domain, uh, how do you draw him?
Drew Han.
Drew Han.
Domain, Drew Han, Pinot Noir and Prime Beef.
Drew Han.
He says Drew Han.
That's pronounced Drew Han.

(03:05:28):
Drew Han.
That's what I said.
Drew Han.
Domain, Drew Han, Pinot Noir and Prime Beef
Porterhouse at the round table.
You fancy wine snob.
Please knight me, Sir Rudy of the Northern
Shenandoah Valley.
The necessary, the necessary counting is below.
Oh, he had some jingles here I didn't
see.
He wants a pasta Glock.

(03:05:48):
Sorry about that.
Uh, pasta Glock, which is noodle, noodle gun.
Hold on.
I got the noodle gun.
Yes.
And what else does he want?
Uh, a jet screen.
Okay.
All right.
F 35 and I'll make that a karma
for you.
Okay.

(03:06:09):
And we're all set.
What else does he say here?
Please distribute some jobs karma for myself and
the others.
Thank you once again.
You got it.

(03:06:31):
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
You've got karma.
There you go.
So now very proud to pronounce the Kate.
These two knights, uh, John, I've got a
blade out.
Could you bring out your big boy?

(03:06:55):
Up on the podium, Nick and Julian Swan.
Both of you are now knights of the
Noah Jenner round table.
I am very proud to pronounce the KV
as Sir Rudy of the Northern Shenandoah Valley
and Sir Swan of the equitable remedies.
Gentlemen, for you, we have hookers and blow,
rent, poison, chardonnay, prostitutes, and domain.

(03:07:32):
Head over to no agenda rings.com.
You can take a look at those fab.
Anybody can take a look at those beautiful
rings.
There's a ring sizing guide.
Send us your size and an address.
Send it off to their signet ring.
So you can use the accompanied wax to
seal your important correspondence.
And as always, it is accompanied by a
certificate of authenticity.
Welcome to the round table of the Noah

(03:07:54):
Jenner knights and dames.
That's right.
No agenda meetups where connection is protection.
These are the first responders in your life.
Once you've been to a meetup, you will
always want to go to a meetup.
And we have a couple taking place today.

(03:08:16):
Actually, the night of January 16th kicks in
at 630 tonight at Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver,
Colorado.
Charlotte's Thursday, third Thursday at 7 p.m.
Tonight.
Edge Tavern, Charlotte, North Carolina.
The Columbia River Basin Tri-Cities meet up
tomorrow.
Seven o'clock.
Ty's Bar and Grill in West Richland, Washington.
Slays of the Southern Hemisphere.

(03:08:37):
Melee, melee, melee.
They meet up.
Oh, that's the Argentina.
Seven o'clock p.m. Argentina Standard Time.
El Nandu, Acasuso, Provincia de Buenas Aires, Argentina.
Please send me a meetup report.
I'd love to hear that.
On Saturday, the Dallas-Fort Worth Mid-Cities,
1130 in the morning.

(03:08:58):
Bourbon Street Bar and Grill.
That is Sir Nerdworks hosting that for you.
That's in Bedford, Texas.
The Club 33 Inauguration Eve, Eve meetup.
So the Eve of the Eve.
3.30 on Saturday.
Hall's Tavern and Coventry in Fort Wayne, Indiana.
The Central Ohio meetup.
5.30 Dempsey's in Columbus, Ohio.

(03:09:19):
On Sunday, our next show day.
The 33rd Annual No Agenda Mug Club Media
Meetup.
Two o'clock at Blackfin Ameripub in Ballantyne,
Charlotte, North Carolina.
And finally, on Monday, the Shrunken Amygdala Inauguration
Celebration.
7 o'clock at March 1st Brewing, Cincinnati,
Ohio.
I demand meetup reports and don't forget to

(03:09:41):
tip your waiters.
Hey, go to knowagendameetups.com to find more.

(03:10:04):
Yeah, baby.
It's like a party.
John's tip of the day is coming up.
I do have to say that a lot
of people were very distressed about that tip
of the day.
I was particularly distressed.
Well, because it had a picture of your
house.
It has everything.
It has, you know, like my previous gender.
I mean, there's all kinds of stuff in
there.
It's crazy.

(03:10:26):
A lot of people.
There's a lot of people that complimented me
for that tip because they found lost relatives.
Well, well, goodie.
It's just distressing.
And the amount of services out there who
probably the same companies who offer to remove
you from the Internet, delete me.

(03:10:46):
And if you look at consumer reports, if
you go in and you find the remove
links yourself, you have a much higher percentage
of removing it from the Internet than using
these services, which cost $200 or more per
year.
What a scam.
Yeah, this is like this.
This is like, what's the other?
Like the scam that you've already bought into
from Spotify.

(03:11:07):
Will you stop paying and books?
Your books go away.
Audible, not Spotify.
Audible.
Oh, it's audible?
It's audible.
Yeah.
Oh, I thought you said Spotify.
No, Spotify was the uninterruptible ads.
Get it together.
Well, whatever the case, if you buy an
audiobook to listen to.
You should be able to keep it.

(03:11:28):
Yeah, you should be able to keep it.
I don't get this taking it away from
you because you stop your subscription.
It sits there in your app.
You just can't play it anymore.
They're horrible people.
They're horrible.
They're all horrible.
The same with your music.
You can't download your music anymore.
You can't download your movies.
Sure you can.
Okay.
Yeah, you get a VPN.

(03:11:48):
Well, I'll talk about it.
So you with your.
It'll be another tip of the day.
You with your VPN.
I have two ISOs.
Here's the first.
I don't know.
And here's the second.
You're welcome.
And that's all I have.
I was hoping you'd have a bunch.
I only have the one which I think
is okay.
Best.
And that's the best we can do.

(03:12:10):
I think that is a clear winner.
It's perfect.
It is always what we do.
What is it we do?
Why?
Because it's the best we can do.
And now it's time for the infamous and
dangerous John's tip of the day.
AJCD and sometimes Adam.

(03:12:33):
Created by Dana Brunetti.
All right.
This is something that should have been caught
that everyone should catch on to and start
doing.
Yeah.
And I have one here in my hand
in my palm.
I'm holding it now.
I'm holding the box.
You're holding it.
Who was it?
I forgot who was on that clip.
Holly.
Oh yeah.
Jess, Josh, Holly.
I have it here in my hand.

(03:12:53):
You're holding the box.
All right.
What are you holding, sir?
A dash cam.
Ah, yeah.
Do you have a dash cam in your
car?
No, I do.
Does anybody?
Everyone should have one.
This is the best way to protect yourself
against insurance fraud and a lot of other
things.
Now, the one I'm holding, I have a
couple of these.
I have different brands.
I've bought this one.

(03:13:13):
I have.
I'm holding in my hand because it was
sent to me for free from a company
called Ombar.
Oh, wait a minute.
It's John's tip of the day.
Is it out in the wild now?
The PR company is like, hey, I got
great placement for your dashboard.
Yeah, this is what I'm doing.
The podcast.
The tip of the day was designed to
lure free to me.

(03:13:37):
Well, how come you can't get to get
one for me, too?
I'll try to.
I'll work on getting to.
Well, you know, we both have to look
at it.
Yeah.
We have to evaluate it.
Get one for Brunetti since he created the
segment.
Three, three.
So this particular one I'm holding in my

(03:13:57):
hand because I'm holding it right now.
My has a three channel.
And this is what I'd recommend.
Or even though it's not important, I think
more important.
You want a 4K so you can read
license plates.
Three channel allows you to have one that
the three channels are ones, the front facing
camera, the camera that faces the cabin, and
then a rear camera, which could come in

(03:14:20):
handy if you get rear ended.
But these are very valuable things, tools for
you.
You should have in your car for a
couple of reasons.
One, you can collect data as you drive
around.
You can just, you know, these are kind
of interesting, especially in areas that are going
to burn to the ground.
In Los Angeles, you want to at least
have some mementos.

(03:14:40):
What it used to look like, that would
be cool.
And the other thing is, is to protect
yourself.
You get hit by someone or someone runs
a red light and, you know, and you
can see it.
Um, so get a dash.
Well, which one is it?
You had, you took their product.
He didn't even mention it.
I said it's the own bar.
Oh, uh, which means one more bar, uh,

(03:15:04):
three channel dash cam.
That's the one I'm pushing.
And how do you get the video off
of the dash cam?
Let me guess.
Do you know, it's got a port.
Do you have to connect it to the
internet and have an account?
No, you can, you can hook right.
You just look cable.
Who's right to the dash cam.
You can just download.
You can take, hold on.
You can do it that way.
You can take the card out.

(03:15:25):
Does it come with a card?
Yeah, it comes with a 64 gig card,
even though I would recommend a half terabyte.
Does it come with a YouTube account to
upload to the Russian channels?
No, not yet.
You can, we can take it off that
way or you can get an app and
it will move it to the phone.
If you want it, but I, I don't
do that.

(03:15:46):
Forget it.
I'm not going for that.
Well, I want you to put up some
of your video, put some of your video
up.
That'd be funny.
If you have some vid, you know what
I did?
I took some, I like taking videos.
I want the in-car camera of you
driving around San Francisco.
I don't put the cabin one in, but
I think people use the cabin one to
do those.
All these, uh, tick tocks things.

(03:16:06):
Yes.
You should have got a microphone.
You should be doing tick tocks before it
goes away.
Get it up and running.
Get your show going.
Talking about too little, too late.
Ladies and gentlemen, it is the highlight of
my day.
And it should be of yours as well.
The highlight of every no agenda show.
It is John's infamous tip of the day,
tipoftheday.net, noagendafund.com.

(03:16:34):
And we are indebted to Dana Brunetti forever
for coming up with this dynamite OD idea.
You know, I was watching the today show
today and I realized it's just, we're doing
a segment that they, all these morning shows
are doing, which is plugging products at the
end of the show.

(03:16:56):
Oh, well, then they do it for the
same reason.
Free stuff.
Free stuff.
We'll see how much free stuff we can
get.
At the end of our show, actually the
real end, we plug the end of show
mixes.
David Kector, Rolando Gonzalez is back.
And Leo Lapuque returns with another fabulous mix.

(03:17:16):
We appreciate those guys so much.
And up next on No Agenda Stream, random
thoughts.
It's the Brad Pitt catfish.
Who would want to miss that?
Keep it right here on trollroom.io, noagenda
.stream or on your modern podcast app.
Coming to you from the heart of the
Texas Hill Country in the morning, everybody.

(03:17:36):
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain.
I'm John C.
Dvorak.
Remember to go to those meetups, noagendameetups.com.
And remember to support your podcasters.
We love you.
Do you love us?
noagendadonations.com.
Until Sunday, everybody.
Adios, mofos, hui hui.

(03:17:57):
And such.
One time payment of $770.

(03:18:19):
Algo chasers.
That's what they are.
They're algo chasers.
Algo chasers.
Warmest year for the earth since 1851.
We've been keeping record.
Prolonged drought and those powerful Santa Ana winds
set up extreme conditions that have fueled those
devastating Los Angeles area wildfires.
Conditions compounded by climate change.
And today, researchers from NOAA and NASA underline

(03:18:45):
that 2024 was the hottest year on record.
Climate change makes risk to homeowners unpredictable, which
makes home insurance either unaffordable or flat unavailable.

(03:19:08):
Thousands of families have lost their homes this
week.
Also gone in the devastating wildfires are pieces
of Hollywood history with a number of historic
houses and sets used in iconic TV and
film.
My fellow Americans, I'm speaking to you tonight
from the Oval Office.
Long ago in New York Harbor, an ironworker

(03:19:29):
installed beam after beam, day after day.
He was joined by steelworkers, stonemasons, engineers.
They built not just a single structure, but
a beacon of freedom.
The very idea of America was so big,
we felt the entire world needed to see.
The Statue of Liberty.

(03:19:51):
Like America, the Statue of Liberty is not
standing still.
Her foot literally steps forward atop a broken
chain of human bondage.
She's on the march, and she literally moves.
She's built the sway back and forth to
withstand the fury of stormy weather, to stand

(03:20:11):
the test of time because storms are always
coming.
I still believe in the idea for which
this nation stands.
Nation where the strengths of our institutions and
the character of our people matter and must
endure.
Now it's your turn to stand by.
And you will be the keeper of the

(03:20:32):
flame, and you keep the faith.
I love America.
You love it too.
The First Lady of the United States, Jill
Biden.
The First Lady of the United States, Dr.
Jill Biden, indeed, has her own Hail to

(03:20:53):
the Chief music, walk-up music just for
Jill.
Apparently the Marine Band came up with something
for her.
Hey, wait a second.
This sounds exactly like intro music to a
show from 1965 called F-Troop.
What's going on here?
We're shooting a gun.

(03:21:14):
That's definitely it.
There's no way it's anything else.
She's all part of the group that is
effing us.
Ain't exactly a million less for Indians either.
F-Troop, the best podcast in the universe.
Adios, mofo.
Dvorak.org slash N-A.

(03:21:36):
And that's the best we can do.

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