1737 - "Wrong Puberty" - No Agenda Show

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Tell you, Mr. Producer.
Adam Curry, John C.
Dvorak.
It's Sunday, February 9th, 2025.
This is your award-winning Cuban Nation Media
Assassination Episode 1737.
This is no agenda.
We're doubling down and broadcasting live from the
heart of the Texas Hill Country right here
in FEMA Region Number 6.

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In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
Canter Northern Silicon Valley where it's Super Bowl
Sunday.
I'm John C.
Dvorak.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
That's right.
Sports ball.
Sports ball, everybody.
Everybody's doing sports.
Everyone is taking their donations and is betting
on the game.

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That's what happened.
I'll tell you this.
It's choking the network.
So Google TV.
Yes.
Oh.
So they have a 4K feed for that.
I think this is maybe the first time
we've seen 4K for the Super Bowl.
Is this, you mean YouTube TV?
I'm sorry.
Yeah.
YouTube.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.

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Yes.
That's great.
Because there is actually a Google TV, which
is something else.
Oh, yeah.
It's just a bunch of videos.
Anyway, the YouTube TV, which is a substitute
for cable, is choking in its own vomit.
What are you watching?
Are you watching Fox or what are you
watching?
Well, it's on Fox.

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The Super Bowl is on Fox.
Yeah.
And so they have a 4K feed.
Yeah.
Plus the regular feed.
And the 4K feed won't load.
It's just choking and it gives you a
message.
It's like, oh, oh, something went wrong.
Try again.
Oh.
And it actually says, oh, oh, U-H
-O-U, uh-oh.
Uh-oh.

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I'm watching now.
I don't have 4K, but I have the
regular feed.
Yeah.
Well, the 4K is just borked.
And you pay extra for that.
You pay extra for a borked feed.
But you can just tell.
Are you an upset consumer?
Is that what I'm hearing here?
You can tell that this is that it's
choking the network.

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Comcast is probably, you know, everything is just
being choked out by the Super Bowl interest.
I'm sure at the beginning of the game
would be really bad.
Yeah.
And it'll fade because the game, you know,
we'll talk about the game later and make
our predictions.
Yes.
And it will, should, I doubt if it's
going to be one of those close games,
but it could be.
And so people will bail out and then

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you'll get the feed will come through.
This whole streaming idea for TV is a
bad idea.
They'll get it.
Because I can turn on, I can flip
over to the antenna.
Yeah.
Quality is just as good, if not better.
I have an antenna and it works just

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fine.
I tell you.
It does.
And it doesn't put it.
And you yourself is the one who went
on about in some post some years back.
Yeah.
About how well the problem with, you know,
the internet is that everything's one to one.
Yeah.
For every person you add to your audience,
it costs you more money.
That's always been the problem.
But the whole architecture of Netflix and Amazon

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and Google is that they have a head,
you know, they have servers right there sitting
connected directly to your connection.
If it's all done right.
But even that may be insufficient.
It may be insufficient.
If you want to change the number, like
how many people, you know, yes, we do.
Netflix has a server on the server.

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Sure.
A server on the server.
And so they have these little outlets.
Of course, if you want to watch something
obscure, it has to go to the main
office.
It's not everything is on there.
Bring back the M-Bone people.
The whole thing is a joke.
Remember the M-Bone?
Yeah.
I remember the M-Bone.
That was another failed attempt.
Well, because nobody had the gear for the

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M-Bone.
But the M-Bone was a good idea
at the time.
It's just, it went nowhere.
You needed a Spark workstation.
Yeah, it was the Spark.
I can't do it with Windows 11.
I can't get on the M-Bone.
It doesn't work.
There's probably five people out there who remember

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the M-Bone.
So streaming works when the demand is within
millions, millions of people.
But if you got to 100 million people,
or once you go to 4K, where you
have to pretty much multiply everything by a
factor of five in terms of bandwidth necessary,

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it changes the way things—the model doesn't work.
That's because they're putting all their CapEx expenditure
into AI.
They should be putting the money into streaming.
Because that's a real—I mean, I try not
to pay any money to anybody, but I
pay for YouTube TV.
What is it up to now?
70 bucks a month?

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Oh, it keeps going up because it costs
too much money to do it.
They're probably losing money.
Well, they're probably not losing money, those guys.
But the point is, if Google, who is
the initiator of large-scale systems for search,
for example, and have networking capabilities that most
people can only dream of, can't manage the

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4K stream over a Comcast 800 megabit line—
I remember when we had rabbit ears and
life was good.
Well, actually, rabbit ears work quite well with
high-definition digital television.
You know, I'm looking at my feed right

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now, and it's very— I knew this would
happen.
No, but it's very—oh, no.
It's very jarring to see the football field
in the background with Speaker of the House
Mike Johnson in the foreground.
It's like my brain can't wrap around it.
It's like, what is he doing there on
the 50-yard line?
Anyway, the reason why I have it on

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is because President Trump will be doubling down
in his pregame interview.
Doubling down on his mandate.
Doubling down on what?
On his mandate to shutter these agencies.
Oh, well, that's— I guess they've— I don't
know how he can double down when he's
already going at full tilt.
Allow me to get you into your clips

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with a super clip, a mini super clip
of some magnitude.
Before you do that, since you just teased
that, what series of clips?
I have about four.
Well, when I play the super cut, you'll
know exactly what to play, and I'm going
to let you start it off.
Stand by.
Thanks for joining us.
We begin tonight with Musk and Big Balls.
Big Balls.
Big Balls.
Big Balls, who work for Elon Musk's so

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-called Department of Government Efficiency, DOGE.
In one case of the Big Balls kid,
a literal teenager.
Big Balls online.
Big Balls here that Katie's talking about.
A 19-year-old that goes by the
username Big Balls.
So that would be one way that we
could refer to him.
Young computer whizzers, whizzes, the aforementioned Big Balls.
Because who among us doesn't feel better about
Big Balls, Big Balls, Big Balls in charge

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of American air traffic control?
I love the times we're in right now.
I think you started, you managed to, I
don't know how you did it, but you
started the show off with the lowest common
denominator juvenile material you could.
But it's necessary because everyone loves saying Big

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Balls.
Everyone loves it.
It's hilarious.
It's hilarious.
Everyone loves it.
I only have the one clip, which is
mocking the whole thing.
I do have the intro clip, which is,
this is the one that was in that
mix, which is Big Balls CNN.
This is a woman on CNN.
I believe she's the one who started it
off, where once she said it on CNN,

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everybody could say it.
Yes, so this is a 19-year-old
high school graduate who has used the unfortunate
nickname Big Balls online.
That's the lady from Wired.
They're the ones that have done this outstanding
reporting, John.
That's just fabulous reporting.
They've done all the reporting on the Doge
team.
The Big Balls, the Big Balls.

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I just love the most tepid and demure
person who pronounces Big Balls is Anderson Cooper
of all people.
Big Balls.
Everyone else is like, Big Balls.
I get to say Big Balls on television.
Anderson Cooper's like, Big Balls.
Yeah, well, this is an embarrassment to all

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television.
A guy comes on, one of the many,
and I wish we could get this down,
the Trump impersonators.
Yeah, this guy is good.
I'm glad you got this one.
He's pretty good, and here's his little take
on the whole bit.
This is a fake Trump doing Trump and
his take on the Big Balls, and there's
some good gags in here.
This is your favorite president, and I'm very

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sorry to see Big Balls leaving Doge.
Big Balls did tremendous work.
Americans voted for Big Balls.
They voted for me, and they call me
Biggest Balls.
You know what I'm talking about.
Fake news.
CNN is very unhappy with the name Big
Balls.
They wouldn't know Big Balls if it hit
him in the face, except Anderson Cooper.
You know what I'm talking about.

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But I want to recognize some of the
other fantastic people over at Doge.
Pat McCratch.
Pat is doing a wonderful job.
I've known him for a long time.
Phil McCracken.
Phil is lighting it up, doing wonderful work.
Holden McGroin.
Holden McGroin is really carrying his weight, that
much I can tell you.

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And Michael Hunt.
We've known Mike for a long time.
He goes by Mike, and we've known him
for a long time.
But Americans voted overwhelmingly for Big Balls.
You know that when they elected me.
And while Big Balls may not be working
at Doge anymore, Biggest Balls is still working
as your president.
We are making America ballsy again, and we

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are making America great again.
That will continue.
That's not going to stop.
We will never give up.
We will never surrender.
We will never back down.
And we will make America great again.
Believe me.
It's kind of sad when people in the
troll room are arguing over whether this is
AI or not.
It's sad because this is one of the
best impersonator voices.

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Obviously, you can tell it's not the president,
but he does a great job.
Everything that he does in there is just
good.
Yeah, there's about five guys who are doing
this, and they're all...
When you get the cadence right, it's pretty
funny.
Yeah.
Maybe just before you get into it, you
want to do Doge stuff, which I think

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that's where you'd want to start, right?
That would be fine with me.
You know, as predicted...
With his low donations, like you said, you
don't have to start anywhere.
My hate listen did not disappoint.
Yes, I saw this.
You're talking about the...
By the way, I thought that...

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You know, I don't watch these guys.
I don't watch them.
I only listen to them.
I didn't even know they were doing video.
Well, I always thought they did video in
a settee, where they were seated and...
No, no, because...
She's got the cans on her ears.
No, but they always start...
We're talking about the Pivot podcast with Prof
G and Kara Swisher.

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No, they always start off talking about where
they are, and Prof G is like, I'm
in London today, my house here.
I'm in Dubai.
I'm visiting for the soccer match.
And Kara's like, I'm in D.C. Oh,
no, we're renovating the house in D.C.
I'm in San Francisco.
I have a secret project.
I'm here in Los Angeles.
They are the biggest, elitist...

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Oh, always.
I'm in New York.
Thank you, Scott, for letting me use your
apartment in New York.
They're always talking about where they are and
what house they're in now.
They apparently each have at least two or
three...
Oh, I'm in Miami.
Galloway has homes in Miami.
Oh, it's everywhere.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, it's amazing.

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So there was a clip.
I know which clip you're going to play,
but there was another clip that somebody posted
in one of the threads where Galloway is
bragging about how, what a smart move it
was to bet $385,000.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I think I had that clip a long...
And we didn't play it.
Yeah, that's at the election.
He said, you know, this is a, you

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know...
Sure thing, a million dollars payout.
No, no.
But he was saying, because, you know, he's
an investor, very successful investor.
Very successful.
Extremely successful.
Yeah, a successful investor throwing $385,000 on
a presidential bid bet for Kamala Harris.
Okay, that's smart.
The clip that is more interesting, I don't

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have that one either, is where he says,
you know, okay, so I lost $400,000.
For me, that's just a bad hour or
so.
But, you know, it doesn't really move the
needle for me.
This is how these people talk.
They're amazing.
They're amazing.
All right, let's just play this where they
become completely unhinged over Doge.
And the question is, a lot of them
are like, what do we do?

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They're literally asking me, what do we do
to stop him?
I was like...
I'm sorry.
This is the one I want to play.
I want to know who are these...
But wait, wait.
Are you going to play that other one
still?
Yeah, I'll play...
People are asking me...
Yes, I'll play that...
Because I'm the great expert on Musk.
Well, you might as well play it now.
And the question is, a lot of them

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are like, what do we do?
They're literally asking me, what do we do
to stop him?
People are...
Oh, by the way, Galloway.
Oh, yeah.
And I had at least five senators call
me.
Oh, yeah.
No, they are the creme de la creme
of the elite.
The people are unbelievable.
If I have a problem, who are you
going to call?
Kara Swisher.
I was like...

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I was like, you don't.
You actually don't have the means to do
so.
Because these poor people are in these agencies.
And when these idiots come in, these children,
these arrogant little pricks come in and say,
we're going to call the federal marshals or
the president has ordered you to step aside.
Hold on, stop it.
How does she know they're arrogant little pricks?

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Has she met even one of them?
Well, they work with Elon.
How could they not be?
How do you call somebody arrogant little prick
when you've never met them?
I think it's...
I think that they can sue.
We have big balls.
We have big balls.
You can't just say we're little pricks.
No, no, no.
The president has ordered you to step aside.
They kind of have to.

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You have to be resistant and be walked
out by security.
And then security doesn't know which one to
listen to.
Right?
I'd like to see all...
This is my favorite because he...
I listen to the whole podcast.
And at a certain point, it's like, I
advise all these people who...
Because they don't just call Kara, they call
Prof G.

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They're very successful Prof G.
And he said, you need to go down
there and you need to get arrested.
You need to get arrested to make the
point.
Whatever it is, 48 or 49 U.S.
Senators and any Republicans that want to join.
I'd like to see a couple hundred members
of Congress go to the fucking building where
this is and demand to go in and
physically stop this and let them...

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What?
What kind of language is that?
These guys are just cussing.
The whole podcast is full of cussing because
they don't have any other words.
Go to the fucking building where this is
and demand to go in and physically stop
this and let them arrest you.
Let them arrest you.
Yes.
Anyway, let's go to the Prof G.

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Cavalier.
The Prof G meltdown.
I want to know who are these young,
highly intelligent, highly motivated zealots following him into
these buildings and shutting off payments to schools
and Head Starts.
I want to know their names.
Well, the local officials are trying to make
that official.
The newly installed Trump are threatening people for

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naming their names.
Just so you know.
Go ahead.
Yeah, but they can unmask CIA officers who
put their lives in harm's way to try
and keep our Americans safe.
I want to know who their names are.
And I want to see Democratic governors saying,
I'm going to do everything I can in
my power to use the full faith and
to the letter of the law to put
you folks in prison.
I think what you're doing is trespassing.

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I think this is a coup.
And be clear, just because the new insurrectionist
who was elected, I don't believe this is
legal.
And I'm going to hold the people accountable
who are trespassing and part of a coup
accountable to just sit back and say, this
is on.
This is horrible.

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And this is unlawful.
We need to go gangster here and say,
look, hey, man, I'm white.
We're going to go gangsta.
This is horrible.
And this is unlawful.
We need to go gangster here and say
gangster.
Look, we are not getting around this stuff.

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This is illegal.
This is a coup.
This is the unlawful seizure of power.
We are not going to engage in these
bullshit, ridiculous arguments over, you know, Gaza and
Greenland.
We are going to hold the people accountable.
Here are their names.
Here are their faces.
And we have contacted the local authorities in
where these kids live, these young adults, and

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we are going to hold them accountable.
Yeah, we're going to string them up.
String them up, those kids.
Lynch mob.
Just a lynch mob mentality.
Exactly.
Great.
It's great.
And I think that she should return her
Dvorak School of Broadcasting certificate.
I'll never, I'll never make mention of again.

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No one you could have mentored could become
this unhinged on air ever.
Just doesn't happen.
I believe that's correct.
She got mentored, as she says herself, by
Walt Mossberg.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We all know the truth.
She did show up on the show, though.
So there you go.
Yeah.
Yeah, she did.
I gave her her break.
You can condemn me for that.
I'm not condemning you.

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I am grateful.
Think about it.
I mean, there it is.
It's 15 minutes of the show.
Yes, it's material.
Yeah, material.
It's great.
You need to indoctrinate more of these people.
It's good.
Good work.
Good work.
All right.
Doge clips.
JCD, go.
You and Mark Levin.

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Cut three.
Clip 10.
Tell you, Mr. Producer.
Yeah, exactly.
Well, let's go over the distraught clips.
These are from NPR, and this is a
series of how distraught and ruined lives are
becoming because of...
And listen carefully to these clips because they

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make no mention, NPR, and I have some
complaints about NPR, as usual, later.
Why not?
They make no mention of the waste, fraud,
and abuse.
In fact, they claim there's none because everything's
USA.
It is great.
Let's go.
Go.
Elon Musk continues to send shockwaves through the

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federal government.
His cost cutting team, the Department of Government
Efficiency, or DOGE, has been tearing through the
government since Inauguration Day.
But now DOGE has been hit with multiple
lawsuits, and a member of the team even
stepped down after a series of racist social
media posts surfaced.
What do we actually know about this newly

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created entity that has so much power?
What are they doing, and who is working
there?
Well, for help understanding some of this, we're
joined now by NPR's Shannon Bond, who has
been following all things DOGE.
Hi, Shannon.
Hi, Shannon.
Hi, Elsa.
Hey, Elsa.
So just lay out what we know so
far about what DOGE is doing.
Yeah, so our reporting shows this effort appears

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to be focusing on technology and personnel at
federal agencies.
So staffers connected to DOGE are gaining access
to sensitive systems and information on government payments
and about employees.
And Elon Musk, who's leading the effort, has
been cheering on their work on his Platform
X.
He's taken credit for efforts to dismantle the
U.S. Agency for International Development, which has

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funded everything from relief efforts in Ukraine to
secret schools for girls in Afghanistan.
By the way, pay attention to people who
say USAID versus USAID.
Because that's one of those, that's kind of...
Yeah, it's a little tricky.
It's like Federal Reserve, you know, it's like...

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But if you listen to the end, play
the end again, because she emphasizes, I don't
even know if these are real programs or
not, but there's no mention of any of
the, you know, Guatemalan sex change operations or
promoting the gay agenda in Uganda, which has

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a death penalty or any of the other
kinds of screwball things these guys do.
She just passes it off as some great
operation that is the best.
She's taken credit for efforts to dismantle the
U.S. Agency for International Development, which has
funded everything from relief efforts in Ukraine to
secret schools for girls in Afghanistan.

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Fabulous.
Yes.
The secret schools for girls in Afghanistan.
You need some.
All right.
You need some.
You need some.
Yeah.
Point of order.
Musk has also said that DOJ is shutting
down what he calls, quote, illegal payments from
the Department of Health and Human Services to
non-profit groups.
But look, even as he's talking about all
this stuff, there are still a lot of
questions about the scope of what DOJ is

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doing and whether they actually have the authority
to do it.
Deborah Perlstein is a constitutional scholar at Princeton
University.
One of the reasons we can't tell what's
going on and what power they have is
because they haven't really made what they're doing
public at all.
And that also includes who it is who's
doing it.
There's a laundry list of stuff they're doing.

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The reasons we can't tell what's going on
and what power they have is because they
haven't really made what they're doing public at
all.
And that also includes who it is who's
doing this work.
Exactly.
So what do we know about the people
working for DOJ?
Like, who are they?
Right.
So there is a DOJ team in the
White House that Musk is leading.

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But a lot of this stuff is actually
happening in the agencies.
There are staffers connected to DOJ fanning out
across the federal government.
So, for example, we have a number of
Musk-connected figures who've been named to senior
roles.
That includes Tom Krause.
He's a tech CEO who just today was
put in charge of the Treasury Department system
that processes trillions of dollars in payments every

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year.
Now, what's notable here, Elsa, is that this
week in a legal challenge around this arrangement,
the government said that Krause has read-only
access to this payment system.
But then we have Musk posting publicly about
shutting off payments.
And so now his ally is running that
system.
There are other folks who've worked at Musk
companies, including Tesla and X.A.I., who

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are in senior positions at the Office of
Personnel Management and the General Services Administration.
And, of course, there's also this group of
young male software engineers, right, that have gotten
a lot of attention.
Oh, yeah, including the staffer who resigned just
yesterday, right?
Like, what was his story?
OK, I just need to say something, just
interject a little bit here.
The ageism is really, it's almost, I mean,

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in a way I understand it, but it's
kind of baffling because whenever it comes to
the greatest technology in your iPhone, everybody's always
happy about, oh, these are the smartest kids
in the world.
They're young.
You know, they're making my camera better.
You know, they're making everything faster.
It's fantastic.
What they used to call them?

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Ninjas, code ninjas.
They're the best.
They're the greatest.
Now it's like, what do these kids know
about the Treasury system?
Oh, my, oh, my, oh, my.
You can't let, you need.
And by the way, they fired all the
COBOL guys.
If you can still get a COBOL guy.
This is, Dasha interjected, I'll bring this up

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because I was talking to JC about this.
It was in that industry.
And he says that one of the things
that happened with the USAID and it looks
like the Treasury too, and he predicted something,
which I'll mention, which is that exactly what
you said, I'm glad you said it, which
is that the COBOL, the Graybeards, as they're

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called, all retired.
And they're the ones who put all these
systems together that work.
Their systems do work, but they're old.
It just works.
They're old.
And according to, you know, the gossip mill
is when the Graybeards quit, they told all
the kids that are running things because, you

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know, the kids, they know JavaScript.
It can do C++.
Rust.
I need rust.
They said to the kids, don't touch anything.
And so these old COBOL systems are in
place.
And so, but they're going to have to
upgrade at some point.
And he says that, and that's the reason

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that we've heard stories about, oh, they won't
let him in.
They won't let him look at anything.
They won't let him do this or they
won't let him do that because they don't
know anything that's going on, literally.
So they can't help the Doge guys.
Now, he says that they're going to try
to upgrade these systems and they're all going
to get, because it's going to be new
code, new everything is all going to get

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borked.
And he's predicted.
I'm not going to argue that.
Of course not.
Because you don't, you, you're.
Yeah, I know.
I, you know.
I used to work for IBM was the
AS400 division was my client at Think New
Ideas.
I know, I know.
And they're like, we can't put a web
server on our boxes.
We can't have a website unless it runs

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on AS400.
Okay, good luck.
So they have, he believes the following is
going to, this is a scenario that's a
predictive scenario that I liked.
They're going to try to fix systems, including
the IRS filing system, which apparently stopped working.

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And since it's an old COBOL system, they,
you know, basically they can't, they have to,
they just, there's, he pointed out that AI
coding, which is all these new kids are
doing.
They use AI to do coding and doesn't
code COBOL because there's not enough material to
feed the language model.

(26:31):
To slurp in, right.
So there's not, so that, so AI can't
do COBOL.
And so they're going to have to abandon
COBOL and go to these new systems.
He predicts it's going to not work right
away.
There's not, there's going to be a, such
a big screw up at the IRS.
It's going to go as follows.
You don't have to file.

(26:54):
That's all right.
Because President Trump's going to take away income
tax anyway.
It's all good.
It'll be fine.
You know, this may be part of that
scheme.
The way it goes is like this.
You don't have to file right away.
You can file later the April 15th.
They're going to give him some slack on
this.
But what it really means is you're not
going to get your refunds.

(27:14):
Yeah, there's that.
Yep.
There's that.
And so they're going to be, the government's
going to be sitting on these refunds.
Now that's for God knows how long.
That's the rumor mill.
JC's hearing.
Yeah.
The rumor mill is you're not going to
get your refunds this year on time.
Which by the way, is not good for
the show.
Trump, you're hurting the show, man.
Doge, wait.

(27:35):
You think they're already changing the code now?
I don't know what they're up to.
I'd have to talk to him some more
about it.
That doesn't sound right.
We didn't have dinner this last Friday because
he's sick.
Well, you know, he got that whatever that
couf is.
And so I'll find out more later.
It's known as respiratory flu these days.
It's different.

(27:55):
Oh, is that what it is?
That's what it is, yeah.
Respiratory flu.
So I'll find out later.
But this is not, this is hilarious.
This is a disaster in every way.
All right.
Number three.
Back to NPR.
Well, his name is Marco Ales.
He's a 25-year-old Rutgers University graduate

(28:17):
who previously worked at SpaceX and at X.
He was a temporary appointee at Treasury who
was granted access to this payment system alongside
Krauss.
Now, on Thursday, the Wall Street Journal identified
racist posts from a social media account linked
to him.
Those posts have been deleted, but NPR did
independently confirm them.
And Ales has now resigned, although Musk and

(28:37):
Vice President JD Vance are saying he should
get his job back.
But all this raises questions about just how
thoroughly vetted some of these staffers are.
And then there are other relatively junior engineers'
names that are popping up just at multiple
agencies, creating a lot of confusion for workers
and, frankly, alarm.
Well, I understand that legal challenges to Doge

(28:58):
are coming really quickly now.
How might that affect the overall work of
this team, you think?
Yeah.
Also, I mean, the first lawsuit about Doge
was filed just minutes after President Trump was
sworn in.
This week, we've had unions representing government workers
suing Treasury over concerns about the Doge staffers
accessing that payment system I talk about.

(29:18):
A judge temporarily limited access to people inside
Treasury, so not Musk and his team at
the White House.
On Friday, the University of California student government
sued to stop Doge from gaining access to
data on student loan borrowers.
These lawsuits could constrain the scope of Doge's
work, but, you know, they move slowly in
the legal system.
Meanwhile, government workers we're speaking to say Doge

(29:39):
is very quickly moving ahead with this work.
All right.
Let's just parse some things out here.
First of all, this racist comment.
Now, if I understand correctly, the guy who
made the racist comment is Akash Boba, and
he's Indian.
And what he posted somewhere in his past,
probably when he was 15, was...

(30:00):
Yes, this is classic.
Yeah, was, I'm not going to marry outside
of my race.
By the way, that's Indians.
Yep.
That's...
And, you know...
It's also Jews.
Yes.
It's also Catholics.
Yes.
It's also lots of people that have this
feeling, especially old timers.
Mo.
Mo.

(30:20):
Mo.
Mo.
Mo facts.
Mo facts.
And, you know, so, but that is now...
Oh, he got fired for racist comments.
And you notice they don't really expound on
it, or expand on what he actually tweeted
and when he tweeted it.
So, and there's all kinds of interesting takedowns.
I love the one from Krebs on security.

(30:42):
Oh, Krebs on security.
Oh, they really dug in deep.
These guys.
Oh, yeah.
He founded Tesla dot sexy LLC.
Oh, no.
Horrible, horrible, horrible.
It's all so bad.
You know, I'm kind of holding back because
it does have clips of Kara Swisher.
But Erin Burnett, you know, the true breaking

(31:03):
news came from Wired.
And I think it's...
Is it Katie Drummond?
Is she...
Let me see.
Is she the Wired lady?
I think she's the Wired lady.
Yeah.
So she is the executive vice president, editor
-in-chief of all things Wired.
Wired is just doing such excellent reporting.
So let's get a little background.

(31:24):
Breaking news, a 25-year-old aide at
Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency resigning tonight
over links to social media posts advocating racism
and eugenics.
This is according to the Wall Street Journal.
Again, advocating racism and eugenics, John.
Eugenics.
Oh, so in other words, I want to
marry within my own caste.
Yes, that is a form of eugenics.

(31:46):
That's eugenics.
Exactly.
I mean, it boggles the mind.
But it's Erin Burnett.
What do you expect?
Advocating racism and eugenics.
This is according to the Wall Street Journal.
Hold on a second.
Again, they have this material.
They don't have to read it.
They can put it on the screen.
They never do this.
Why would we do that?
No, that's not...

(32:07):
No, you might show how misleading you are.
People might get a clue.
According to the Wall Street Journal, who says
that the aide resigned after being confronted with
the posts.
Now, that former, now former, Doge aide was
one of the people at the center of
a legal dispute over accessing that sensitive, crucial
and massive Treasury Department payment system.
Massive.
And it comes as one of our next
guests has uncovered even more details about another

(32:28):
of Musk's young deputies.
Out front now, Kara Swisher, tech journalist, podcast
host, who has covered Elon Musk extensively for
years in the entire tech world.
And Katie Drummond, global editorial director at Wired,
which has been breaking story after story on
these recent high school and college graduates that
Musk has brought to Washington.
OK, so let's listen to Katie Drummond.

(32:50):
We'll skip the Swisher stuff because it's just
her hating on everybody, like her book, like
everything she does.
So, Katie, let's talk about one of these
people specifically now.
Your latest story is a 19...
It focuses on a 19-year-old software
engineer working at Doge.
19, working at Doge.
19, 19.
He's 19.
Ladies and gentlemen, he's 19.
19-year-olds are sent to deserts to

(33:11):
go fight on your behalf.
With a gun.
With a gun.
They're catching hot lead in the desert.
But now, oh, a 19-year-old.
Someone who's passed associations that you have looked
into, such that they are at 19, would
call into question passing a background check.
Of course, that hasn't happened in these cases,
but would normally happen in a case like

(33:32):
this.
One would hope, yes.
So this is a 19-year-old high
school graduate.
One would hope.
Who has used the unfortunate nickname Big Balls
online.
could refer to him.
Why unfortunate?
Why is it unfortunate?
It's a great nickname.
That's actually interesting.
That's a good catch.
Why is it unfortunate?

(33:52):
Because you are forced to say Big Balls
on CNN.
Which you apparently enjoy doing.
Who has used the unfortunate nickname Big Balls
online.
could refer to him.
Refer to him by his name, then, maybe.
You could refer to him in many different
ways.
No.
Because you like saying Big Balls.
You like it.
Say it.
Say Big Balls.

(34:13):
Go to him.
He is now working at Musk's behest inside
Doge.
And we looked into his background.
And so we found several notable things, Aaron.
One of which is that this individual has
founded multiple companies, including one with another unfortunate
name.
Unfortunate name?
Tesla.sexyllc. Oh, no.

(34:36):
Why is that unfortunate?
Because she has to mention Tesla, I guess.
And she doesn't want to.
I don't know.
It's a mystery.
Which he established in 2021.
He would have been around 16 years old.
Now, this LLC controls dozens of web domains.
Hold on a second.
So this is what I like.
Now she goes from a name, Tesla.sexyllc,

(34:58):
a screen name, to acting as if there's
an actual LLC, like a limited liability corporation,
that has registered domain names.
I mean, as far as I can tell,
there is no Tesla.sexyllc. But now she
makes it sound like he's got a corporation.

(35:20):
He established in 2021.
He would have been around 16 years old.
Now, this LLC controls dozens of web domains,
a handful of which are registered to Russia.
Now, that— Okay, stop.
They're not registered to Russia.
He registered some .ru domain names.
That's not registered to Russia.
This is the lady who has done this

(35:42):
excellent technology reporting.
Just fabulous work.
Oh, frau gutkeitig.
It controls dozens of web domains, a handful
of which are registered to Russia.
Now, that in and of itself is not
necessarily— No, correct.
It's bull.
—illegal.
But everyone else that we spoke to said
that that is exactly the kind of thing,
those kinds of foreign connections— Oh, my God.

(36:03):
Foreign connection.
I can register a .ru domain.
Am I then a Russian asset?
Do I have unfortunate foreign connections?
Yes, yes, you are.
—that would raise red flags on a background
check.
Now, he also worked at a network— No,
it wouldn't.
Red flag, red flag.
You registered a domain name.
Oh, no.
I have bigmike2024.com.

(36:24):
I think I should go to jail.
—that would raise red flags on a background
check.
Now, he also worked at a network monitoring
firm that is known for hiring reformed black
hat hackers, essentially criminals.
And lastly— Go ahead.
Go ahead.
That's not true.
Essentially criminals.

(36:47):
Unless they committed a crime and were found
guilty, they're not criminals.
You, John C.
Dvorak, you're a podcaster.
You are essentially a criminal.
That's what you— Yeah, I'd like to see
them say that about me and find them—
I got libel lawyers.
I know how to do this.
Yeah.
That's bullcrap.
—firm that is known for hiring reformed black

(37:08):
hat hackers, essentially criminals.
And lastly, we uncovered telegram messages that we've
linked to this individual in which that telegram
user is soliciting a cyber attack for hire.
So actually looking for someone to perform a
cyber attack at their behest.
And telegram, of course, is heavily used in

(37:29):
Russia.
I mean, it's a definitional social media platform.
Of course.
It's heavily used in Ukraine, actually, to be
quite specific about it, because you've done that
reporting as well.
So this is the kind of unhinged, non
-reporting that is being lauded by— Oh, just
so— I mean, I'm not going to play
any more Care Swisher, but believe me.
She goes on now, Katie, you're just knocking

(37:50):
it out of the park.
This is so great.
Wired is so relevant.
I had a conversation with a friend of
mine who's a famous publisher, and he mocked
me for even suggesting that Wired was even
relevant on any level in the entire world's

(38:11):
dimensions.
So it's like— When did you say this?
It must have been a while ago that
you said that.
I can't believe you would have said that.
I was defending a writer that worked there,
and it was a long story.
But the point is that these guys are
losers.
Now, let's get back to clip four.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I didn't know you had another clip.
I thought— Oh, my apologies.

(38:32):
No, that's okay.
It did not break the stream of consciousness.
It was fine, and I got— Then from
there, I got three more that go in
a different direction.
Well— Since we're talking about Doge.
But I want to stick with Doge, because
I have something to talk about, Joe.
But what is clip four?
I see one, two, three.
What?
I see Doge takedown one, takedown two— Oh,

(38:53):
you did the takedown clips.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Yes.
No, the clips— You're somewhere else.
You're somewhere else.
I'm glad you did that.
Those are the takedown clips.
No, USAIF distraught clips.
What is USAIF?
USAID mistypo.
Can I lead you into that?

(39:13):
I would hope you would.
Okay.
Because it's important to understand that the No
Agenda Show, very early on, made friends—because we
are friends and we're genuine—with all systems administrators.
And it really came to a crescendo during
the— Dude's name, Ben.
Yes.
That's where it comes from.

(39:34):
Yes.
During the IRS hearings, where the IRS were
going after non-profits.
And I think it was Chaffetz who said,
so where did you learn about this?
I don't know.
Some guy in the IT department.
Who?
Ben.
His name was Ben.
Some dude named Ben.
And now every sysadmin addresses themselves in No
Agenda Nation, addresses themselves as dude named Ben

(39:55):
or dudette named Bernadette.
And dude named Mohammed.
And dude named Mohammed.
As long as it's a dude.
And we have always respected systems administrators because
we know that they really make the world—
They'll save us.
Yes.
We have always said when it all comes
down to it, it's not going to be
the hams.
It's going to be the dude's name, Ben.

(40:17):
So we have a lot of people who
reach out.
And I learned a couple things that I
thought were quite interesting.
And I wasn't really ready to confirm it
until I heard—and this is quite amazing— I
heard Antonio Gracias.
No.
Yeah.
Gracias is his name.

(40:38):
And he works with Elon.
And I think he was part of Doge
or is part of Doge.
And he can—and I'll play this clip first.
There's a little gotcha in here as he's
talking about what they discovered inside the federal—

(41:00):
inside the—so the financial— what's the—what is the
term I'm looking for?
I don't know.
The treasury.
Inside the treasury systems what they discovered that
the real problem is with these systems.
And this is from the All In podcast
with Jason Calacanis.

(41:20):
And there's a little bit in here which
is just—that confirmed it for me.
And then I'll tell you what I've understood
about Doge.
The way the government works, a department just
basically asks for money from treasury and they
send it out.
We all run businesses.
There's a reconciliation process.
You have a contract, you issue a PO
against it, something comes in, you check that
it came in, services is rendered, and then

(41:41):
you issue a payable and then a month
later you pay it, right?
That doesn't happen in the U.S. government.
There is—that process is broken.
It used to happen.
It's broken now.
And so, literally, money's flowing out.
I used to ask myself this question, why
are the numbers always revised?
Why are they always wrong?
How can the government know how much money
in Spain?
Just hit the button in the computer and
figure it out.
Problem is, that button doesn't exist.

(42:02):
We spent time early on.
Mar-a-Lago with Elon trying to track
through, like, how does the money actually flow?
No one could tell us how it actually
flows.
Where is it going out?
People didn't know.
So he's saying that there's no reconciliation process
and that would be—I'll give you an example.
Tina comes in and she says, hey, I'm
looking at the credit card receipt here and

(42:24):
something was paid for on my card for
some hoodie, but I didn't order it.
And I say, oh no, I ordered that.
Here's the hoodie.
Yeah, Mimi does the same thing.
Yeah, reconciled.
And it's because something was under her— If
you're married, this happens.
This reconciliation is a common thing.
Very common.
And it was because the account was in
her name and that's why the hoodie was

(42:45):
charged to her card.
And so that's reconciliation.
So this does not exist within the Treasury
Department.
They get a purchase order.
They pay it, but they pay it without
saying, hey, was the work done?
Was the product delivered?
Did you get it?
That does not exist.
Or is the person even alive?

(43:05):
Now what he said there, if you listen
carefully, he said, when we were a while
back looking at this at Mar-a-Lago,
now this is what I've heard.
I've heard that these four teenagers, these youngsters,
these racist, eugenicist people were in the Treasury
Department at midnight on January 21st.

(43:28):
And they sucked down the entire—the database is
a database whether it runs on COBOL or
not.
That's right.
And they got the—I think for 2023 and
2024.
And then they exited the building.
They have had this information, all the information—the
Treasury Department is the government's bank account.

(43:48):
It's one account and it goes into the
Federal Reserve System and payments are made.
And they have—that's why you see Data Republican,
all these different websites popping up.
They have had this for weeks.
They're not in there anymore.
This is—at this point, it's a troll exercise.
Who are we going to mess with next?
As they just go through everything slowly, like,

(44:09):
OK, there's this payment, there's that payment.
Oh, all these things are going.
The judge who blocked them, who cares?
They were in, they were out.
And they— Yes, this is another thing J
.C. talked about.
And you should mention that Data Republican thing
again.
DataRepublican.com.
Yes, that people should look at that.

(44:30):
And there's a lot of information.
And he mentioned that at least one of
these groups that are plowing through this data
has found that Chelsea Clinton has gotten tens
of millions of dollars.
Well, that's a little disingenuous because they added
her name to the Hillary and Bill Clinton

(44:50):
Foundation.
They added her name.
So, you know, all the payments that went
to the Clinton Foundation is now the Chelsea
Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton Foundation.
OK, well, I'll go with it.
I have no evidence to the contrary.
I looked at it.
When you said take a look at it,
I looked at it.
I'll just play this second clip of this
Antonio Garcia because he explains when this happened

(45:12):
and how long this non-reconciliation, i.e.
the government is just paying whatever they're—the Treasury
is paying whatever they're told to pay, how
long it's been going on.
It was changed in the 70s—in the 70s,
in 1973.
The Nixon administration at—in 71, let me go
back, they came off the gold standard, which
allowed deficits.
In 73, at the nadir of the Nixon
presidency, Congress took away from the presidency the

(45:34):
executive power, this thing called the apportionments, which
was the power of the executive to stop
spending.
So Nixon was abusing it by stopping what
he didn't want.
And so Congress took away from him.
What that means today is the executive, as
he reaches in, it's very hard to just
stop payments.
So what's happening is the government is put
in a process where they would just have
an authorized executive kind of stamp, a bill

(45:58):
that got paid.
That broke.
I don't know when it broke, but it
broke sometime.
So the money flow now, the department gets
a budget authorized to it by Congress.
It goes to OMB.
OMB allocates the budget.
That department then just sends a money request
to Treasury to pay.
It is not reconciled against what happened.
So so once you have a budget, you

(46:20):
can just make payments, whatever you want.
It's not checked.
Nothing is checked.
So this is what this is what we
continuously have to keep in mind when they're
going into the Department of Education, when they're
going into USA.
They had all the information for weeks.
They already know everything.
It's not like the Doge team is being

(46:40):
is being protected with armed guards while they're
tinkering away and trying to stop payments.
They're not even in there.
That's why the guy resigned.
He's already done.
I'm back in India, whatever.
He's having a good time.
So now I want to go from there
to USAID and introduce it with because we
have been talking about USAID ever since the

(47:03):
economic hitman and the economic hitman was a
great thematic book for this show early on.
Yes, written by John Perkins.
And I'll just give the quick definition.
According to the book, economic hitmen are highly
paid professionals who cheat countries around the globe
out of trillions of dollars.

(47:23):
They funnel money from the World Bank, the
U.S. Agency for International Development, USAID, and
other foreign aid organizations into the coffers of
huge corporations in the pockets of a few
wealthy families who control the planet's natural resources.
Their tools include fraudulent financial reports, rigged elections,
payoff, extortion, sex, and murder.

(47:45):
They play a game as old as empire,
but one that has taken on new and
terrifying dimensions during this time of globalization.
And I'm going to play the very first
time.
I went to bingit.io. Any podcast can
get a bingit.io of their own.
Talk to Sir Deanonymous.
It's on the website.
I'm going to play the very first time

(48:06):
we talked about USAID, and that was on
episode 112, Sunday, July 12, 2009.
Here we go, everybody.
I should say, by the way, sincere apologies

(48:27):
for the horrible Skype audio that I even
allowed to be recorded at the time.
It's really bad.
The synopsis for this grant opportunity is detailed
below.
Eligible applicants, others.
To be eligible for the cooperative agreement under
this RFA, an organization must be a U
.S.-based institution.
Bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah,
bah.

(48:48):
Description, the USAID is launching a coordinated comprehensive
program designed to minimize Ooh, USAID.
I know, I know.
I said USAID.
I was tricked in the beginning already to
say USAID instead of USAID.
The USAID is launching a coordinated comprehensive program
designed to minimize the impact of specific newly
emergent diseases of animal origin, which pose a

(49:08):
significant threat to human health and development.
The program must be managed by the USAID
Avian and Pandemic Influenza Unit.
2009, they were already getting ready for pandemics
through USAID.
Huh?
USAID will closely work with international host governments,
USG, and private sector entities to coordinate activities

(49:28):
and ensure that U.S. Who is this
USAID?
That's an economic hitman.
Is that a company, USAID?
It's an agency or something.
I don't know.
It's a good question.
I mean, as far as I, every time
I see it, it's the United States.
Here it is, USAID.gov. Oh, man.

(49:50):
USAID from the American people.
This is money we're giving away.
The U.S. Agency for International Development.
Yeah, that's what it is.
This is the economic hitman that we've talked
about in the past.
That's what this is.
You know what?
These are $18 million websites, John.
This is not just any old site.
Remember that?
It's unbelievable.
The U.S. Agency for International Development is

(50:12):
an independent agency, independent, that provides economic development
and humanitarian assistance around the world in support
of the foreign policy goals of the United
States.
OK.
Yeah.
Economic hitman.
There you go.
There you go.
So we obviously talked about the economic hitman

(50:34):
earlier than 2009.
Yes, but we hadn't put it all together.
And this is the days of the $18
million websites that we were moaning about, that
Obama was putting together, and we were laughing
about it.
So we have been observing USAID for a
long, long time and have always, we never

(50:56):
really considered that they were, you know, buying
Politico pro subscriptions.
What a bunch of horse crap that is.
No, no, no.
They didn't pay us to do stories.
They subscribed to our pro service.
OK, fine.
So now let's get into USAID.

(51:17):
John Cena, where do I go?
And we should mention that Politico is owned
by a German publishing house.
Yes, by Springer.
By Springer, which makes it even worse.
Yeah, it does make it worse.
Yeah.
OK, I'm ready.
All right.
For what?
For your USAID clips.
Oh, OK.
Well, the clips I have, this goes in

(51:38):
a different direction than the first ones.
Yeah, that's fine.
This is more reporting from NPR about how
horrible what's going on is going on.
This is the distraught employees clips.
Yesterday has brought more news about the Trump
administration's efforts.
You're your favorite guy.

(51:59):
This is what tomorrow talk about his administration.
Yesterday has brought more news about I think
he learned from Tom Brokaw.
The Trump administration's efforts to shut down or
dramatically change parts of the federal government.
A judge has temporarily stopped Elon Musk and
his Doge team from getting access to sensitive
Treasury Department records.

(52:19):
begin now with the move to shut down
the United States Agency for International Development.
60-year-old agency manages most of America's
foreign aid programs, but the Trump administration has
paused all foreign assistance and put the agency's
13,000 employees on administrative leave.
Yesterday, a judge stepped in to block that
administrative leave order for more than 2,000

(52:41):
of the employees.
I can't help it.
And this is so old-fashioned.
You know that the guy, you're a great
man.
You sound just like Tom Brokaw.
I'm back in the dash.
Right.
NPR Global Health Correspondent, Correspondent.
Wait, stop.
This is the, besides blowing the line there,
she's the health, there's a woman that he
brings on as the health correspondent.
Yes.

(53:01):
What does that got to do with the
price of bread?
Well, I would say since USAID has been
funding pandemic research since we started looking at
them.
Oh, there you go.
And a lot of other research we will
discuss in a moment.
Yeah, I think it's pretty relevant.
Employees.
NPR Global Health Correspondent, Correspondent Fatima Tanis joins
us.
Fatima, thanks so much for being with us.

(53:22):
Thank you.
Thank you, Scott.
You've been speaking to many USAID employees.
Now he's made a new one, USAID.
He's trying, oh wow, this is just so
bad.
Thank you, Scott.
You've been speaking to many USAID employees.
How do they react?

(53:42):
Well, Scott, people are distraught.
You know, since the inauguration, I've been talking
to senior officials, agency staff, both here and
overseas, and they didn't want to reveal their
names because they're not authorized to speak to
the press.
And some were afraid of being targeted by
the administration.
They say that effectively one of the biggest
aid agencies in the world doesn't exist anymore.
They're shocked.
Right there, right there.

(54:02):
They're calling it an aid organization.
And the name is Agency for International Developments.
And as we heard in the exact definition
in the throwback clip, it is to enhance
the American agenda.
It's not to provide aid.
This is the PSYOP that the name is.

(54:23):
Yeah, when you were caught in it by
saying USAID, USAID, USAID, or in 2009, by
the way, this was what?
Almost 20 years ago.
It's a long time.
It's long enough.
Yeah.
Effectively, one of the biggest aid agencies in
the world doesn't exist anymore.
They're shocked at the dizzying speed in which
things have unraveled.
And they say the way that they are

(54:44):
being treated by the administration has also been
shocking.
Many people have lost access to their government
accounts and emails.
The ones staffed overseas have been ordered back
to the U.S. in 30 days.
And they say they feel completely abandoned by
their government.
Many are in conflict zones.
They're concerned about their personal security.
They're told to come back, but they don't
have homes in the U.S. or jobs

(55:05):
or insurance.
And some are pregnant due to their due
date.
So their delivery plans have also been appended.
Babies.
Oh, wait, wait.
Their delivery plans have been appended.
I mean, they're going to deliver later.
What?
Hold on.
Told to come back, but they don't have
homes in the U.S. or jobs or
insurance.
And some are pregnant close to their due
date.
So their delivery plans have also been appended.

(55:25):
Their delivery plans have been appended?
That's kind of odd.
No, that's why I wanted to stop it
there, because that's not what she said.
What did she say?
Upended.
Oh, upended.
Oh, OK.
But here's the thinking here.
She is reading from a script.
And here's the challenge.

(55:46):
Write the word upended.
There's two ways of writing it.
There's up-ended and upended.
One word.
U-P-E-N-D-E-D.
And the spell checker won't say that's wrong.
So it'll be fine.
So you write a script and put U
-P-E-N-D-E-D.
And you will say upended.
She is reading from a script.

(56:07):
This is a scripted interview.
Oh, no.
What?
Say it's not so.
I know.
I know.
I'm shocked.
Shocked.
Very shocked.
Good catch.
Good catch.
You're right.
Upended.
She says upended.
Upended, yes.
But she meant upended.
And if you think about it, there's also
the other thing.
These people are in places where, oh, my

(56:28):
God, they got to leave.
That's because they're spooks, we're talking about here.
They're spooks, I tell you.
That are in danger, you know, just by
the virtue of their job.
And now they all of a sudden have
gotten called back.
And, oh, my God, everything's been upended.
Upended, yes.
But, OK, here we go.

(56:49):
Both sides on this, by the way, I
think this is why he botched his read
earlier.
They're both reading from a script.
I'm convinced of it.
I'm with you.
And this is a script provided by the
government.
I'm with you.
Yep.
This is, and it's provided by whoever's, I
don't know who this is, but somebody wrote
it.
How about the USAGM, the United States of

(57:10):
America Global Media, which is overseen by the
Broadcast Board of Governors, who for 2024 had
a almost $1 billion budget with over 4
,000 media contracts.
How about that?
Remember, this is all happening because of Smith
-Mundt.
Once Smith-Mundt was overturned or modernized, meaning

(57:33):
we can now propagandize the American people, this
is the result.
This is the result.
You get scripted NPR.
And you get appended.
How does yesterday's orders from a federal judge
about the agency affect USAID and its workers?
Oh, wait, you're right.
You can even tell he's trying to make
the script sound conversational.

(57:55):
Yeah.
You know how, I mean, like you'll pause
on a word.
I know exactly what you mean.
I think a lot of people do.
It's hard to explain that from an...
When you're reading and trying to sound conversational,
it has a stilted quality that is pretty...
This is like comparing news interviews with somebody
who's really distraught and they're having issues and
they got the microphone stuck in their face

(58:16):
and somebody in the same situation in a
movie acting.
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
The acting one is never...
Yeah.
Yeah.
Bad actors.
Bad actors.
How does yesterday's orders from a federal judge
about the agency affect USAID and its workers?
So last night, a federal judge issued a

(58:37):
temporary pause on the administration's move to put
2,200 people on administrative leave.
Now those are union foreign service officers who
filed the suit.
The judge also reinstated 500 people who were
already put on leave and he paused the
accelerated return of overseas staff.
That was supposed to happen this weekend.
Now this was all pushed back until next

(58:57):
Friday.
And in the meantime, there will be a
hearing next week on the legality of the
administration's overall moves to dismantle the agency.
What is the administration focusing on USAID?
So I think this is why President Trump
is going to double down today because this
agency was created by executive order.
Money was appropriated for the work they do

(59:20):
but it's still an agency that has been
brought into existence by an executive order which
can be removed by executive order as far
as I'm concerned.
People may not like it, but I think
that's just the truth.
All these agencies, in fact, are under the
executive department.
Yes.
You know, that branch, the executive branch.

(59:40):
Yes.
And that means the executive of the executive
branch, Trump, can pretty much do what he
wants and everybody like Galloway and these other
people moaning and groaning about it.
Oh, separation of powers.
There's no separation of powers when you're the
boss of this group.
In that podcast, Galloway was going on and
on like, this is only $200 per person

(01:00:04):
in America.
You know, if he takes $35 billion or
$40 billion and he divides it and he
says, that's only $200 per person per year.
If you ask any American, would they want
to help people in need for $200 a
year?
They'd all say yes.
I'm like, well, if you have a family
of five, no, Scott, no.
But for him in his fifth house, yeah,

(01:00:26):
sure, $200, who cares?
I bet $258,000 on Kamala winning.
He doesn't care.
These elitist people.
Elitist.
Yes.
We'll get onward.
With the administration focusing on USAID.
Well, President Trump is accusing the agency of
corruption and fraud.
No evidence has been provided to the public.
No evidence!
No evidence!
And his advisor, Elon Musk, say that they

(01:00:48):
want to shrink the federal government and the
budget.
Analysts say USAID is an easy target because
it works overseas.
Americans are less aware of what it does.
And analysts say what's happening here is a
playbook for the administration's plans for other agencies.
But USAID has typically enjoyed bipartisan support for
its projects.
And some Republicans I've talked to are saying

(01:01:10):
that there will be cascading consequences from all
of this.
Andrew Natsios is a former administrator of USAID
who served under George W.
Bush.
And he said Americans don't realize how influential
USAID was.
Its logo, for example, had the American flag
on aid packages distributed all over the world.
And it said, from the American people.

(01:01:31):
Yeah.
Another great sign up.
That's what they always show.
You saw the pallets going on to the
C-130.
Here's your 40 billion at work people from
the American people.
We're good people.
We're good people.
Yeah.
That's what we are.
Yeah.
And when we look at it, we think

(01:01:51):
we're good people.
Of course, we do.
We're good people.
Yes, we're good people.
Let's go to finish this distraught series on
this scripted piece on NPR, which I'll complain
about later.
Here we go.
Now, one of the agency's key functions was
helping with disease control.
You'll remember the Ebola outbreak in 2014.

(01:02:13):
So USAID worked to contain that.
And they also supported.
They worked.
They brought the guy home.
He got out of the plane in Dallas.
Was live on TV like it was OJ.
He hops off the plane, like walks right
into the terminal.
And we were all thinking, oh, this guy's
bleeding out of his butthole.
This is horrible.

(01:02:33):
Do you remember that?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, well, we had a nurse who jumped
on her bike and said, screw you guys
and took off to contain that.
And they also supported programs, curbing migration in
Latin American countries, for example, which is one
of the this administration's key goal work.
Where does this leave many of the aid
groups who worked with USAID?

(01:02:54):
You know, Scott, the entire humanitarian aid industry
is totally shaken by this.
The industry is shaken.
USAID partners with NGOs, contractors to do the
work that Congress allocated money for.
And since the foreign aid freeze, no one's
been getting paid by the US, not even
for work that they already did back in
December and January before all of this.

(01:03:14):
So they're owed millions of dollars.
Now, this has put everyone in a really
bad spot.
Thousands of people have lost their jobs in
the past couple of weeks.
And many of these companies, including some of
the big aid groups, don't know if they
will survive if the US doesn't fulfill its
contractual duties.
So it's really not looking good for aid
groups right now and for the people around

(01:03:35):
the world who depended on their help.
It's not looking good, people.
It's not looking good.
This was a propagandistic piece if I've ever
heard one.
Oh, no, was kind of the theme of
it.
Oh, no.
It's bullcrap.
And this is NPR.
Do you have more on USAID?
Because I have some things I want to

(01:03:56):
say about this.
This will take me to my little sidetrack,
but I can play this.
And I think then you can go off
on your...
Okay.
Because I have to play this clip.
This is Capehart.
Your buddy, your buddy Capehart.
Yes, the prissy gay scold.
That's the only way to describe it.
A prissy gay scold.

(01:04:16):
It's a PSC, everybody.
A PGS.
PGC.
I want to play this and I want
to play two short clips, which is my
complaint of the day.
But let's play this.
This is Capehart.
They brought a new guy in because Brooks
was on...
I don't know what Brooks is doing, but
they brought some new guy in from the
American Enterprise Institute, who I thought would maybe

(01:04:38):
be a counterpoint.
But no, no, no, no, no.
From Elon Musk gaining unprecedented access to sensitive
government information, to Democrats trying to build what
they call a bigger and better party, we
turn tonight to the analysis of Capehart and
Continetti.
That's Washington Post associate editor Jonathan Capehart and

(01:04:58):
Matthew Continetti with the American Enterprise Institute.
David Brooks is away this evening.
It's good to see you both.
Good to see you.
So Donald Trump and his allies are making
quick progress toward their stated goal of the
deconstruction of the administrative state.
We've got takeovers and the hollowing out of
major government agencies offering severance agreements to government
workers, causing federal grants and loans, which of

(01:05:21):
course is now tied up in the courts.
Jonathan, are the shockwaves being felt across the
government signs of a super committed new administration
shaking up the status quo?
Or are we witnessing the full assaults on
the limits of executive power?
Both, Jeff.
Both.
Remember, Donald Trump campaigned.

(01:05:42):
He told us this is what he was
going to do.
Project 2025 is all about doing what is
happening right now.
And so they are trying to deconstruct this,
I think, as Steve Bannon who said, the
administrative state.
And they are, as I said last week,
President Trump and Elon Musk in particular are

(01:06:03):
taking a wrecking ball to the federal government
by sowing, sure, chaos and confusion and fear.
But he's following through on what he promised
to do.
How do you see it, man?
Oh, boy.

(01:06:24):
You spent hours and it's appreciated.
It's appreciated.
So the crap that they don't have any
counterpoints on this PBS thing, and which brings
me to two short clips I want to
play.
This is because this is a complaint of
mine.
It was brought up in a previous show
about how NPR is doing, literally doing, that
was PBS, but same thing.

(01:06:45):
NPR is doing advertising.
I want to play two short clips which
are call to action advertisements that played back
to back.
These played, one played, and then the other
played.
It's unbelievable.
This is the NPR advert, Cap One.
This message comes from Capital One.

(01:07:07):
Banking with Capital One helps you keep more
money in your wallet with no fees or
minimums on checking accounts.
What's in your wallet?
Terms apply.
See CapitalOne.com slash bank for details.
Capital One N.A. Member FDIC.
Now, was this on the radio or was
this on the podcast?
This was on the radio stream.

(01:07:28):
Okay, so it was a radio station.
Yeah, I think this was KQED.
But what's interesting is because whoever put the
stream together, the next thing on the stream
was this ad, which is another ad for
Capital One right after the first ad.
This message comes from Capital One with the
VentureX card.

(01:07:48):
Earn unlimited double miles on everything you buy.
Plus, get premium benefits at a collection of
hotels when booking through Capital One Travel.
What's in your wallet?
Terms apply.
Details at CapitalOne.com.
From a legal standpoint, the FCC and a
lot of the certainly the music rights organizations

(01:08:09):
have deemed an audio stream to be equal
to that of an over-the-air radio
signal.
And I'm bringing that up in regards to
if you play a record on your radio
station, you have a stream.
You don't have to pay double.
And so it's considered to be the radio,
meaning that under the same rules that they

(01:08:30):
cannot do a call to action, this would
be a violation.
That's this is my.
I agree with you 100 something.
But I will say this.
This was back to back.
Yeah, that's just bad programming.
These people should not be getting government funding.
Well, they won't be.

(01:08:51):
That's all going to end.
OK, so in the season of reveal, I'm
trying to figure out what is you can't
deny it anymore.
I need a jingle, people.
I need a season of reveal jingle.
Season of reveal.
Season of reveal.
So Leave it to Beaver comes out and
she's talking to the press and she and

(01:09:13):
obviously the president is aware of what she's
communicating to the world.
And when it comes to shutting down USAID,
here's her laundry list of you played a
little bit of those in the NPR coverage.
Here's her laundry list of some of the
things that USAID was funding through USAID over
the past several years.
These are some of the insane priorities that

(01:09:35):
that organization has been spending money on, $1
.5 million to advance DEI in Serbia's workplaces,
$70,000 for a production of a DEI
musical in Ireland, $47,000 for a transgender
opera in Colombia, $32,000 for a transgender
comic book in Peru.

(01:09:55):
I don't know about you, but as an
American taxpayer, I don't want my dollars going
towards this crap.
And I know the American people don't either.
And that's exactly what Elon Musk has been
tasked by President Trump to do.
So I'm thinking, wait a minute, what is
trying?
What are they trying to communicate here?
Are they trying to communicate?
And part of the sigh up they're putting
on the American people or marketing, call it

(01:10:17):
whatever you want, it's the same thing, is
let's all get outraged by these ideological things.
Yeah.
And then it starts to dawn on me,
these are not ideological.
And it hit me.
And I'll just play a little bit of
this report and I'll explain why I'll stop
it and I'll explain why.
This is a protest against, in Germany, against
the AFD.

(01:11:03):
Alternative for Germany or AFD party in government.
Now, notice the words of change have gone
from far right to extreme right.
There are hundreds of thousands of people protesting.
From what I understand from my German friends,
they all hate the immigrant situation.
They all love the fact that this guy
who, you know, he said, well, I'll reach

(01:11:24):
out a little bit to AFD and at
least we'll approve this reduction of immigrant inflow.
But yet there are hundreds of thousands of
people protesting.
It's this protester and we don't have video,
but I'll tell you what this protester was.
This is a dude in a blonde wig
with blue eyeshadow.
Alternative for Germany or AFD party in government.

(01:11:47):
I'm really worried about things and I simply
want to do something to stand up for
a colorful coexistence that people can live together,
be happy with each other, that we don't
continue to be negative and against minorities, but
instead appreciate there is a diverse society and
that we can also benefit from it.
So he's saying, hey, I don't understand why
we just can't all get along.

(01:12:08):
People are different.
We need diversity.
He's talking about himself because he's a freak
show.
And he's standing there in this blue.
I mean, it's a huge dude in a
blonde, curly wig, kind of a cute wig,
actually.
And with blue eyeshadow.
I'm like, hold on a second.
What USAID is doing, if you listen to
the countries, Colombia, you know, all these different

(01:12:30):
Uganda.
This is a tool that USAID has used
to garner support.
You see, when you talk about children, because
what is the whole LGBTQ thing about?
The T is what was added on.
The T is about transgender.
And we've somehow and I'll get to America

(01:12:50):
in a moment because this has been done
to our own people.
The T part is, is what we've told
everybody is you don't transition these children, then
they're going to kill themselves.
Children is a very powerful tool in psychological
warfare.

(01:13:12):
So when you're told that you have to
let children transition, people are compassionate.
The same goes for America.
We're compassionate people.
We don't want children to kill themselves.
We've been told through research that this is,
you know, we really have to let these
kids transition.

(01:13:32):
It's gotten so good, the communication that, you
know, people are harming their kids because they
think that their kids are trans.
They've been using this overseas to garner groups,
multiple groups who are on the edge.
They bought into the trans Maoism, the transgender
meme.
They've added Q on there.

(01:13:53):
So now if you're queer, like, I just
don't fit in.
I don't know what I really am, where
I am.
But hey, wait a minute.
There's this group of people over here who
are compassionate.
They care about the trans children.
They don't want them to disappear.
So then you can garner a whole bunch
of fringe groups.
You can get the trans, the queer, the
questioning, the misfits, people with other mental disorders.

(01:14:16):
You can get the anarchists.
And that way you can get 100,000
people to protest.
It used to be Black Lives Matter.
And that worked quite well.
We had one last hurrah with Black Lives
Matters.
And it turned out that was so manufactured,
everyone saw through it.
We then saw in Los Angeles, literally the
culmination of Black Lives Matters.
And all of a sudden the stage switch,

(01:14:38):
there was the rainbow flag and it was
trans lives matters.
So they built in this DEI thing.
By the way, USAID was doing a lot
of exploration on just how far they could
take this trans issue as we have this
testimony from Goodman, I think.

(01:14:59):
I do have one interjection.
This to me, what you're doing, and I
agree with this, USAID is somehow behind all
this.
This accounts for the fact, because I question
people all the time.
We have a lot of international listeners.
And yes, drag queen story hour is all

(01:15:20):
around the globe.
Everywhere.
Why?
Because they felt they were funded.
So you get a transgender dance party.
Hey, everybody wants to go dance with drag
queens.
That's fine.
We'll have a good time.
And you multiply.
And again, it all comes down to compassion
and empathy of the human spirit.

(01:15:41):
But they have all been used to become
part of, you know, it's easy to throw
Palestine in.
Oh, there's another group that's being oppressed.
Oh, well, just so you can garner all
of the support.
And they've been using it economic hitman style
around the world and in our own country.
And that's where they made the mistake.

(01:16:01):
Just a quick side thing here.
USAID spent 241 million dollars on testing out
the trans transitioning on mice.
Can you describe what exactly the American people's
taxpayer dollars were spent on regarding transgender animal
testing?
Yeah, in a lot of these cases, they're

(01:16:22):
involved in mice, rats, monkeys who are being
surgically mutilated and subjected to hormone therapies to
mimic female to male or male to female
gender transitions, gender affirming hormone therapies, and then
looking at the biological, psychological and physiological effects

(01:16:45):
of the gender transitions, looking at the effects
of taking vaccines after you've transitioned these animals
from male to female or female to male,
looking at the size of their genitals changing
after you've put them on estrogen or testosterone
therapies to transition them.
And in the case that the chairwoman, the

(01:17:08):
example the chairwoman gave, there was a 1
.1 million dollar grant to give female lab
rats testosterone to mimic transgender male humans and
then overdose them with this party drug to
see if animals who were taking test female
animals taking testosterone were more likely to overdose

(01:17:29):
on the sex party drug than animals who
are not taking testosterone.
So believe me, when you're putting a quarter
of a billion dollars into this type of
research, you're doing it for a reason.
You want to organize trans dance parties.
You're handing out party drugs.
Make sure you don't kill them.
We need them to protest the next day.
The problem is where they went wrong is

(01:17:49):
DEI and DEI diversity equity inclusion was completely
targeted at a combination of black and trans
in America.
But DEI could be used for any kind
of ethnic group around the world.
And what happened is the financial community jumped
in and said, yeah, you know, we're not
we're going to make you non-investable unless

(01:18:10):
unless you have DEI and you have all
of the and you're doing the right way
with your with your social governance score, etc.
And they went too far.
All the grifters came in.
Everybody started making millions of dollars writing books,
Robert DeAngelo.
And they pushed it so far that a
certain part, a certain point in America and

(01:18:32):
I think everywhere in the world, people went,
hold on a second.
Now I'm a white guy.
I'm a white woman.
I'm straight.
I'm being discriminated against.
And that's they pushed it too far.
And this is what this is why your
observation of the Democrat Party going all in,
they're going to die on the Trans Hill
because that's all they know.

(01:18:52):
They have no alternative strategy.
Their strategy was always mobilize people because we're
compassionate about the TE and LGBTQ.
And if you're Q, you can just jump
on board.
Anybody can be Q.
This is the only strategy they had.
And we have been doing this around the
world.
And I think that's why Trump is trying

(01:19:12):
to communicate this.
And honestly, we need to repent at a
certain point and apologize to the world for
the mess we've made of it after we
come to terms in America of how many
children we have harmed with this psychological operation
made possible by the overturn of Smith-Mundt.
So the American intelligence agencies, which includes the

(01:19:36):
spooks at USAID, could go ahead and propagandize
everybody.
It is a disaster that has taken place.
And it's been going on as far as
I can tell since Nixon, probably.
And finally, the spell has been broken and
people are saying no.
That's why President Trump comes in and says,

(01:19:56):
no, no more dudes in women's sports.
We're getting rid of that.
No government funding for mice or children or
otherwise.
And now companies are starting to figure out
that this was a bad idea.
Hey, good morning.
So as you know, we've been seeing some
big companies announcing for months that they're ending
or changing their DEI programs.

(01:20:18):
They include Walmart, Target, Amazon.
And just this week, Google told employees that
it's ending its hiring targets for underrepresented workers.
But what I discovered this week is that
many more big companies are backing away from
the language of DEI without making a big
announcement.
I went digging into the new annual reports

(01:20:39):
that companies have been publishing for their investors.
And I compared them with what they were
saying a year ago.
And I found that this year, at least
a dozen big companies have all deleted or
softened the language they use to talk about
diversity.
These companies include GM, Intel, Disney, Pepsi, and
Chipotle.
Now, some of these companies wouldn't talk about

(01:20:59):
these changes with me.
So we don't know for sure why they've
done this.
We just know that they've stopped talking about
DEI in public.
But some of the companies did give me
some clues.
So thank God that this is stopped.
OK, I have to stop you for a
second.
Yeah.
It hasn't stopped.

(01:21:21):
Well, no, it hasn't.
It's paused.
It's paused.
Yes, it's paused.
And I have to look at this.
Take what you say.
I think everything you said is great.
Thank you.
But the meta part of it, this is
where I'll come in with this.
Do you think it's possible that when you
say they overdid it, do you think it's

(01:21:43):
possible that it wasn't even the same group?
That was just a coincidence?
Very possible.
That's why I said Wall Street.
Wall Street grabbed this and like, oh, this
is this.
I think that they believed it.
I think the company CEOs, the board members,
the shareholders all said, yeah, man, like the
children are dying.
They're committing suicide because they don't, you know,

(01:22:04):
they.
See, the thing is, I see as the
problem I have is that I see the
trans drag queen story hour and the trans
Maoism and all that on one track.
And I see the DEI.
I see the connection because the DEI would
include that.
But I see the DEI is on a

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second track.
And I'm wondering if it was the same
schemers.
Could have been a different group doing this.
I thought that they may be competitive.
They may be competitive schemes at work.
And because of that, it destroyed itself.
Whatever happened, the operation.
I mean, they should have been throwing 33s

(01:22:45):
everywhere.
The operation went out of control.
I think the operation is I agree with
that.
I think this is out of control.
I don't know what they can do to
salvage the direction they pushed everybody.
And I know I agree the Democrat Party
has completely screwed itself.
And you notice that when you hear from
Rahm Emanuel and you hear from what's his

(01:23:07):
name?
The guy looks like wimpy.
Give me the hamburger guy.
You've puzzled me with that one.
This guy is an Obama guy.
He's the Obama.
The brains behind Obama.
Oh, from Chicago.
That guy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It'll come to me.

(01:23:27):
It'll come to me.
Yeah, it will.
It'll come to me, too.
But he always reminds you of wimpy and
the hamburger guy.
So the two of them have seen the
light on this, but nobody's listening to them.
Carville to a lesser extent, but nobody cares
what he has to say.
Axelrod.
Actually, yeah.
Axelrod, yes.
Thank you, NetNet.
Oh, no.
Who said it's a man person?
Man person had it first.

(01:23:48):
All right.
Good for man person.
So these guys have noticed this and they've
talked about it.
Everyone's ignoring him, totally ignoring him.
And they're going on with the Prissy scold,
gay scold.
Instead, it's misogyny that causes the election.
It's racism that causes the election.
They will not give in to any other
thinking.

(01:24:09):
And trans is still on track in the
Democrat Party.
I think that they have not seen it
as hopeless.
They think, well, okay, it's a pause.
We'll reestablish this.
Just give us some time.
Give us a few minutes to figure this
out.
Well, and so maybe that's the reason that

(01:24:30):
Trump sends Leave It to Beaver out.
And she's there running down this list to
honeypot them back into it to completely destroy
the party because the party is over.
This trans party is ending.
And we've had an ongoing conversation with people
over email about, you know, I think you

(01:24:50):
made the point with the clip on the
last show, is that it'll be very difficult
for any parent to finally admit, you know,
I made a mistake and I really ruined
my child.
And it's heartbreaking to think about even that
thought coming to them.
But it has to.
It has to come to that.

(01:25:13):
Because, I mean, when President Trump says we're
the party of common sense, yes, yes.
I mean, sure, there are people who are
gender confused.
But notice, it's always children.
They're never talking about the adults.
Oh, yes, okay, someone got a trans operation

(01:25:36):
in jail.
Okay, whatever.
But they're always saying, well, actually, I had
a clip, I think.
Yes, here you go.
This is in Washington State.
You'll hear all the memes here.
This is coming from the Attorney General of
Washington, Washington State.
And it's all about the children.

(01:25:58):
This president's order is gross.
Nick Brown says President Trump's executive order to
restrict federal funding for gender-affirming care for
minors violates- Mind you, even the fact
they're saying gender-affirming care is a psychological
operation by itself.
Yes.
Nick Brown says President Trump's executive order to
restrict federal funding for gender-affirming care for

(01:26:19):
minors violates the Constitution.
It very clearly targets transgender people.
It is denying them healthcare that is not
denied or attacked for anybody else.
Brown's argument bolstered by support by the American
Academy of Pediatrics and the American Medical Association.
All in, both paid for.
I received a puberty blocker.

(01:26:40):
Luna Crone Barone is a 19-year-old
UW student.
I really was able to lift that weight
of worrying about going through male puberty off
my shoulders when I was a really young
child.
This order will kill trans children.
There it is.
Some Republicans argue the legal fight should prompt
continued conversation.
Children are having surgeries that permanently alter themselves,

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and we don't let them even get tattoos.
State Rep Cindy Jacobson of Parkland has sponsored
a bill to prohibit puberty blockers, hormone therapy,
and gender transition surgeries for minors in Olympia
that has gone nowhere.
Why do you think the American Academy of
Pediatrics and the American Medical Association, though, have
both backed gender-affirming care?
Well, I mean, it is a medical question.

(01:27:27):
Adds GOP State Party Chair Jim Walsh.
I think that people who are gender-confused
are genuinely confused.
And we need to minimize invasive surgeries that
involve healthy tissue or hormonal treatments.
How do you answer to other parts of

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the country who say, hey, they want this
executive order?
Well, I answer to the people of the
state of Washington, first and foremost.
My job is to defend the people who
don't have a voice.
My job is to defend our laws.
And that is why we brought this case.
It's always children.
If you want to see what's bad about
Palestine and Gaza and Israel, what do they

(01:28:07):
talk about?
How many children?
How many children?
How many children did they kill?
They killed children.
The Republicans are killing children.
It's a powerful tool.
And it works in every country around the
world.
And these ghouls at USAID have not only
been researching it with a quarter of a
billion dollars on mice, who knows what else
we'll find.

(01:28:27):
They have been using this everywhere.
They want to stir something up, create an
opposition.
So they are holding true to their tools
and to their mission, which is international development,
which for them has always meant overthrowing a
government.

(01:28:47):
You know, we don't have to kill anybody
anymore.
We just get all the trans people riled
up.
And then we add the Qs.
The Q addition needs to be researched because
everybody can be Q.
I know young people who, well, I'm queer.
What does that mean?
Well, that means I can go to this
protest for Palestine.
I mean, it's so obvious to me now.
And it's, it is, this is bad.

(01:29:10):
We've done, we've been bad, bad, bad.
And I'm glad that, I'm glad they ripped
the sign right off the building.
Yeah, they took the sign down.
And so we'll probably, I don't know if
we have any clips on this, but the
next part is, of course, the Department of
Education.
Oh, that's coming.
A quarter of a trillion dollar budget.
And they have been propagating this trans and

(01:29:33):
DEI, but mainly the T and the Q
on our children for decades.
Yeah, this all started at least before the
80s.
Decades and decades.
Before we leave the clip that you just
played, the one thing that's kind of overlooked
are the lawsuits which are coming.
And I've said this forever, which is that

(01:29:54):
these kids who have been mutilated, literally, and
they get older, and the next thing you
know, they snap out of it, out of
the propaganda, and then they start suing people.
This one doctor got sued, a transgender surgeon
doctor, another doctor approved by the AMA.

(01:30:16):
And she was on, I have a clip,
this is called the TS News clip.
Which I've been carrying for a while.
She discusses something here which is to me
like, what are you, are you just making
this stuff up?
She was sued by one of her patients
for mutilation.
And this is, sorry, I'm just gonna say,

(01:30:38):
just let me continue.
She comes, but this is before any of
that happened.
And this is her logic about life in
general, about gender in general.
And it's frightening.
Puberty's bad enough, but if it's the wrong
one, it's really bad.
Dr. Johanna Olson-Kennedy is the medical director
at the Center for Trans Youth Health and

(01:31:00):
Development at Children's Hospital Los Angeles.
These youth that are going through the wrong
puberty, it's a very precarious time.
That's when I worry about them, because there's
enormous rates of self-harm, cutting, burning, and
other kinds of bodily harm that's self-inflicted.
But also depression, anxiety, and suicidality.

(01:31:20):
Wrong puberty.
That's a great term.
Wrong puberty.
How does that even work?
Yeah.
Oh, I don't, you know, puberty is one
thing, but wrong, because they're going through the
wrong puberty.
In other words, you're a boy going to
boy puberty, or you're a girl becoming a
woman.

(01:31:40):
I had an email conversation with one of
our psychologists.
And she's the one that actually, early on
in the trans discussion, showed me how the
American Association for Pediatrics and how, you know,
if a child is self-harming, you're a
boy.
I mean, that's pretty much their answer to

(01:32:02):
everything.
And she gave me a one paragraph on
narcissism and Marxism, which I just like to
read.
It's just a number of shows ago, you
and John talked about narcissism and Marxism.
I've been thinking about this for weeks, and
I can share the following.
So she's a professional in the field.
Marxism is rooted in resentment.
I've mentioned to you before, to me, that

(01:32:23):
I help people release resentments.
That's part of her therapy.
The interesting thing about my process is that
it requests the client to look at their
part and acknowledge it.
She says, however, one time I was in
a session and got to this step, but
the client could not do it.
It occurred to me at that moment that
my client might be a narcissist.

(01:32:44):
The thing is, I never detected she could
have had a personality disorder.
And this falls in line with what chameleons
Marxists can be.
In the end, narcissists are not capable of
processing resentments because it's what roots them in
all their justification without having to acknowledge who
they are and the part they play, just

(01:33:04):
like Marxists.
And this is what you get on your
TikTok clips.
Narcissism is fed.
I don't know if you can create it.
According to her, there's no real cure for
narcissistic personality disorder, just like there's no real
cure for borderline personality disorder, she says.
But it can certainly be triggered if a

(01:33:26):
narcissist, deep down they're a narcissist for whatever
trauma or whatever they've had in their lives.
Going on TikTok, putting a camera on yourself
all day enforces and reinforces that narcissistic behavior
and makes these people completely ready to be
picked up by the trans Maoist agenda, i

(01:33:46):
.e. the Democrat Party in America.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is, I mean...
Season of Reveal!
Oh, brother.
But we're getting more of this sort of,

(01:34:07):
I don't know what to call it, a
narcissist, but here's a talk clip.
There we go.
Which is the kind of stuff we're starting
to see more and more of, which is
the, I don't know, even, there's got to
be a term, it's like a form of
satire, but it's modern.
I saw this, I liked it, I thought
it was very modern.
I had to cut this way down so
there's some edits that are obvious and there's

(01:34:28):
some edits that you won't catch, but I
had to take the music out of it.
Here we go.
The bus?
Yeah, the bus.
It's been, what, it's been like two weeks?
In two weeks, I'm done.
You want to talk about regretting your vote?
In two weeks, I went from the highest
high to being unemployed.
Lost my job last night, got a phone
call.

(01:34:48):
The repercussions of what Elon Musk are doing
with the USAID has real percussions for real
people.
For the last seven years, I have been
a shift lead on Project Bus, where we
studied to find out if the wheels on
the bus went round around or not.
And all of a sudden, Elon, who's not
even elected, gets in and I'm out of

(01:35:09):
a job.
What do I tell my family?
What do I tell my kids?
This isn't a joke.
This USAID stuff is not a joke, man.
It's affecting real people.
And the worst part is, what if we
never figure out?
What if we never figure out if, in
fact, the wheels on the bus do go
round and round?
Does nobody care?

(01:35:30):
The best part of that video was his
daughter in the background trying not to laugh.
Yeah, she's just back there.
It was very funny.
It was very, very good.
I liked it a lot.
Oh, man.
There is one other thing about President Trump
that I am very pleased about.
A lot of people will be happy.
Not only do we have MAGA.

(01:35:52):
We have MEGA, Make Europe Great Again.
Oh, by the way, I should probably play
my quick MEGA clip here.
Where is it?
Here we go.
MEGA.
Yes, this is the BBC.
As we record this podcast, leading figures from
far-right parties in Europe are gathering in
Spain under the banner Make Europe Great Again.

(01:36:13):
Inspired by Donald Trump's MAGA slogan, the Patriots
for Europe group are gathering for two days
in Madrid to map out their future strategy.
The Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban and Francis
Marine Le Pen are among those expected to
attend.
Including Geert Wilders, and there's quite a lot
going on there.
People are rising up there as well.
But you know, they are extreme right now.

(01:36:35):
They're not far-right.
They've moved to extreme right in all the
reporting.
Meanwhile, we still have MAGA, we have MEGA,
and we have MANGA.
Have you heard of MANGA?
No, not yet.
Make Africa News Great Again.
US President Donald Trump followed through on his
promise to punish South Africa by signing in

(01:36:57):
an executive order stopping all aid to the
country over what he called a human rights
violation against a white minority group.
Many in Johannesburg said on Saturday they disagreed
with Trump's move.
There's no such thing that I've read or
experienced or seen on our social media in
South Africa that really has a connotation around

(01:37:17):
white people being mistreated in this country.
He should have actually come from the Americas
to South Africa to come and see what
was happening for himself and not just take
the word of an Elon Musk who hasn't
lived in this country for the longest of
time, who doesn't even relate to South Africans.
The Trump administration said the South African government

(01:37:39):
was allowing violent attacks against Afrikaner farming communities.
Land distribution in South Africa has been a
complicated and highly emotive issue with racial connotations
for more than 30 years since the end
of the apartheid system of white minority rule
in 1994.
Granted, I'm saying MANGA make Africa News Great
Again in the hopes that we'll have some

(01:38:00):
Western reporting so we can actually understand what
the heck they're saying.
That's not gonna happen.
I'm hoping, I'm really hoping, I'm hoping, I'm
hoping, I'm hoping, I'm hoping.
Well, the, there's the, our Secretary of State
refused to go to South Africa recently and

(01:38:21):
there's, South Africa is a target.
I think South Africa is a target.
I think the UK is a target.
Oh yeah, well, and that's, and that's like
the UK, you know, they went the other
way and they tried the whole trans thing
and, you know, it backfired so bad because,
you know, the people wouldn't rally around immigration

(01:38:41):
and say, hey, you know, we just want
people to be diverse in our country.
So instead they went straight to, if you
hurt someone's feelings on social media, you're going
to jail.
You know, which, the jump was unbelievable.
They had to make it.
They, I mean, they, they were out of
options.
They didn't have to do anything.
Well, okay, but they were out of options.
They're just out of options.

(01:39:02):
These people are insane.
They're insane.
I tell you, they're insane.
So I have a, here's a clip.
Uh, there's a little gotcha in here.
Uh, this is the Elizabeth Warren clip you
may or may not have seen.
I probably haven't.
Where is she?
Is it under Warren?
Yes.
Yep.

(01:39:23):
Okay.
Warren.
We built a government to work for all
of us.
Yes, yes, yes.
We're just all better off if in fact
the, the, the bird flu gets under control
and that our eggs won't kill us.
We are all better off.
We're better off.
Thank God our eggs, thank the government.
Our eggs won't kill us.

(01:39:44):
Thank you.
She throws, throws that in.
She talks about bird flu and then we
know that the price of eggs has skyrocketed
because of the bird flu, the culling of
the egg.
There's a, I think I have a report
on that too.
Uh, but, and then she, they, they kind
of, she makes the association of the eggs
won't kill us.

(01:40:04):
They won't kill us.
When, when did that even show up in
the conversation?
Why is she saying it?
She's on Joy Reed, by the way.
Oh, of course she is.
Of course she is.
You can play the rest of it or
not.
I want to hear it.
Gets under control and that our eggs won't
kill us.
We are all better off.
We're better off.
We make these investments in infrastructure.

(01:40:25):
We make this investments in our payment system
so people don't get cheated.
That's how we keep the economy going.
And look, bless everybody who gets out there
and makes a fortune.
Bless everybody who gets up every day and
goes to work, but understand the underpinnings of
all that are something we all invested in.

(01:40:46):
And now we've got Donald Trump and his
co-president Elon Musk, and they're just running
a wrecking ball through it.
A wrecking ball.
And it's not like it's an abstract problem.
It is really and truly the kid who
needs an aid to be able to sit

(01:41:06):
in class so that they can get an
education, taking that aid away and maybe taking
away that whole classroom.
She is.
She's the worst.
Well, there is a setup underway.
The setup for the bird flu.
And this is kind of the reverse psychology.

(01:41:28):
You just got to keep telling people that
there's no evidence of human to human transmission.
Human to human transmission has not yet happened.
There's no human to human transmission.
If it jumps, but it hasn't happened yet.
So don't worry about it.
This is New York City.
It's an all out effort to prevent an
epidemic.
Dozens of live poultry markets in and around

(01:41:49):
New York City are on notice tonight to
sell off or slaughter all of their poultry
within 24 hours.
Then shut down and disinfect for five days.
There is no immediate public health threat.
We have been vigilant and will remain vigilant
so New Yorkers can go about their lives
with peace of mind.
It all comes as the number of dead

(01:42:10):
birds is rising.
A dozen geese dead in Westchester.
Several public parks are now closed after wild
birds were found dead as far north as
Boston.
Bird flu has been detected in seven live
markets here in New York and on Long
Island.
Hundreds of thousands of ducks were euthanized when
the disease was detected there.

(01:42:31):
67 people have been infected in the US,
all with mild symptoms, all had direct contact
with sick animals.
City health officials say that's crucial.
The current risk to New Yorkers of bird
flu remains low.
We have not seen avian influenza develop the
ability to transmit between people.

(01:42:51):
But a strain of the virus has been
detected in livestock in Nevada.
Experts say it's important to be vigilant.
Mutation could occur that allows it to either
be more virulent.
That means causing more severe disease or causing
sustained human to human transmission, which again, my
reiterate, is not the case right now.
Authorities say there's zero risk from eating poultry

(01:43:12):
or eggs so long as they're cooked.
Three ducks died from the disease at the
Queen's Zoo and tests are pending tonight on
a dozen dead birds here at the Bronx
Zoo.
But to be clear, there has been no
known human to human transmission of avian flu.
So they are.
Great clip.
Psy op clip.

(01:43:33):
Yes.
Now the CDC is not allowed.
This is very smart by the president.
The CDC is not allowed to publish any
material.
He has some kind of moratorium.
I'm not sure exactly how that works.
But I did learn this morning that something
is changing within the CDC.
If you go to the Centers for Disease

(01:43:54):
Control and Prevention, CDC.gov, and you type
in abortion, the first thing that pops up
is also try adoption.
That is very new.
They've never had that.
So things are changing.
It's Doge.
It's Doge.
Doge is everywhere.
It's Doge changing everything.

(01:44:14):
Well, I think that's why he has to
go so fast.
Well, yes, you have to be a wrecking
ball.
Absolutely.
And the wrecking ball analogy is being used
a lot.
We had it just so far in this
show today, just by accident, two clips mentioned
the wrecking ball.
Yep.
Well, that's that's no accident.
Just clips, I might add.
It's not.
It's no accident.

(01:44:38):
Now, I should probably mention that there's a
lot of people on the who are extreme
right, who are very, very worried about what
is happening.
And one of them who keeps popping up
on my radar, because people send it to
me, is Catherine Austin Fitz.
You've probably seen a clip of her.

(01:44:58):
Kind of older lady, blonde hair.
She lives in Holland now because, you know,
she feared for her life.
And so she was much safer there, obviously.
And so she publishes the Solari report.
I'm sure we've played clips of her.
I don't recall any of this.
Right.
Well, she's around because she's very anti-blockchain.

(01:45:20):
And and but she's she's definitely.
Well, anti-blockchain.
Oh, yeah.
Well, why?
Well, I'll explain.
So they were they produced the Solari report.
They have some kind of funding because, you
know, they do a lot of work.
They do seminars, all kinds of stuff.
And here's the headline.
Trump administration digital control grid coming together at
high speed.

(01:45:41):
And this is kind of where Bannon is
these days, too.
I'll just go through some of the highlights.
By the way, I just interrupt you.
Bannon, who who they've tried to get bring
to the fore because he's anti-Musk.
He's kind of seems to be like more
and more marginalized because he predicted that Musk

(01:46:05):
would be gone before the inauguration, if you
recall.
Yep.
And it's just the opposite.
Well, we have to remember who Bannon is
backed by.
He's backed by the that Chinese dissident billionaire.
That's remember he had the song used to
play, you know, go away, CCP.
These everything with him is CCP, CCP, the

(01:46:27):
Communist, Communist Party of China.
They're trying to take over.
Dilan's in their pocket.
Which may or may not be true.
So here's the Solari report.
Digital IDs.
The real ID is being supported with a
strong push through the states.
Immigration effort also appears to be supporting the
combination of digital IDs plus biometrics.
Stargate data centers.

(01:46:49):
The Stargate initiative involves the building out of
data centers sufficient to support a complete control
grid and all digital monetary system.
By the way, there's a lot of this
on no authority to Stargate MRNA injections.
The proposal for personalized MRNA vaccines for cancer
indicates a plan to roll out the injection
program sufficient to implement the Internet of Bodies

(01:47:10):
and continue to lower life expectancy.
Internet of Bodies.
Switching fiscal control to central bankers.
The doge takeover of Treasury payment systems combined
with the purge of the civil service is
designed to end congressional control of fiscal flows
and policies.
This leaves the New York Fed and global
central bankers in complete control of the financial

(01:47:30):
line social credit system.
It looks like the doge takeover of systems
is setting up the infrastructure to start a
social credit system as well using federal payments.
Hate crime accusations and entrapments are designed to
assist here.
Crypto push.
The testing of an all digital transaction system
continues using private crypto while a regulatory framework

(01:47:52):
for crypto is being put in place and
stable coins are going to be used to
significantly improve the dollar's ability to dollarize the
emerging markets.
Land grab.
Here we go.
One of the big goals is to use
Bitcoin, which is a Ponzi scheme, to swap
for real assets.
500 trillion of land and minerals as Howard
Lutnick puts it.

(01:48:13):
If mandated, government purchases can run up the
price of Bitcoin and then the 2%
who own 70% of Bitcoin can swap
their Bitcoin for land on a secret tax
free basis.
I can't wait.
I can't wait.
And it just goes on and on and
on and on.
Weather warfare.
Um, Gaza genocide.

(01:48:34):
I mean, there's a lot of people.
People lap this stuff up.
They do.
They do.
Of course they do.
It's entertaining.
It creates fear that then can be allayed
by knowledge.
What they think is knowledge.
This is.
But this is Whitney Webb.
You know, the PayPal mafia, Palantir is going

(01:48:55):
to run everything.
Same camp.
Same camp.
Yeah.
I just want to acknowledge it.
I don't agree with it.
I don't know anything about this group.
Yeah, she gets interviewed a lot because she
was in HUD.
She was the undersecretary of HUD during Bush
2, I think.
Or young Bush.
So she's got, you know, and she has

(01:49:15):
a lot of things right.
She says, you know.
You're having a lot of things right.
But that's how you do it.
That's how you do it.
Yeah, exactly.
That's how we do it.
That's we are actually.
No, we don't do it that way.
We have everything right.
Where's my USAID check?
We're sorry, USAID.

(01:49:37):
Where's my check?
We were promoting the trans agenda.
And if we were promoting drag queen story
hour.
And if we were promoting a lot of
other stuff, we'd probably get a check from
USAID.
But we don't do that.
No, instead, I'm going to thank you for
your courage.
Say in the morning to you, the man
who put the C in the USAID checks.
We don't get.

(01:49:57):
Say hello to my friend on the other
end.
The one and only Mr. John C.
DeMora.
Yeah, well, in the morning to you, Mr.
Adam Curry.
Also in the morning, all the ships and
sea boots in the ground feed in the
air.
The subs in the water and the dames
and the knights out there.
In the morning to the trolls in the
troll room.

(01:50:22):
Two thousand six hundred and fifty four.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
More people than than.
But it hasn't.
The last Sunday was almost the same or
maybe even a little more.
Yeah, I know.
So we have a new high average, higher
average.
The average is higher yet.
OK, well, I can see that.
But then again, the Super Bowl Sunday, people

(01:50:44):
are listening to guys making a lot more
money than we are yammering about who's going
to win the Super Bowl.
Oh, I think you can't bet against Kansas
City.
Can't bet against my homes on and on
and on.
And we will have our political prediction after
the after this segment, I think.
I think we should do it at the
end of this segment to keep people.
I think we will.

(01:51:04):
Or we'll put it somewhere in the middle
of the segment just to throw them.
If you want to hear our predictions, you
might as well stick to the donations.
Yeah, I'm not going to do that.
Oh, OK, well, you're not you're no fun.
You know, fun, you know, fun stuff we
can put in the middle.
These are the trolls in the troll room.
Some of them angry at me today.
Why?
I'm like, I noticed no agenda hasn't talked

(01:51:27):
about this.
There's all kinds of stuff we don't talk
about, but we haven't got to.
Yes, because, you know, both so boring with
the doing.
I love it.
You're drunk.
You're on your couch.
You're drunk.
You're yelling at a podcast.
Consider your life.

(01:51:49):
Shaking your fist, shaking your fist at the
podcast machine.
You bastards.
The trolls are in the troll room, a
troll room dot IO.
And thank you very much to warm up
pre-show guy, Darren O'Neill, for getting
everybody riled up and ready for the big
show.
Riles me up, too.
I love his his rock and roll pre

(01:52:10):
-show.
And you can listen to that at the
troll room by logging in there, or you
can listen at no agenda dot stream or
use a modern podcast app.
So many people complaining like, oh, hey, your
episode, you haven't uploaded it to iTunes.
You haven't uploaded it to the Apple podcast.
That's not how it works.
That's not how it works.
Doesn't matter.
That's an Apple problem, not a no agenda

(01:52:30):
problem.
So get a modern podcast app at podcastapps
.com.
I was looking at the stats.
Podverse is is almost as many people listen
on Apple as they do on Podverse, which
is kind of interesting.
But you can listen to Podcast Guru, Podcast
Addict, Fountain, CurioCaster, FountainData, I mean, TrueFans.fm.

(01:52:52):
There's all kinds of podcast apps.
And they listen to the podcasting 2.0
database, the index, the biggest one in the
world, the most accurate one.
They get a pod ping with the minute
we publish.
And then 90 seconds later, it's up on
that app.
That's the one you want.
And when we send out the bat signal,
you can actually tap that and listen on
the same app you get your podcast on.

(01:53:13):
It's compatible with backwards compatible with your podcast.
You can export your OPML file, whatever you
do, and re-subscribe in the modern podcast
app.
This brings me to the bonus content.
You have bonus content?
I sent you a note about, don't forget,
can you talk about this on the show?
Oh, yeah, I saved that.
And you have the note there.
And I wanted you to talk about something

(01:53:35):
you said in an email on the show,
because I didn't know this was going on.
And it's something you should be proud of
yourself for doing.
Well, we get a lot of notes.
And they've become more customized over time.
Here's an example.
Hi, Adam.
My name is Daisy, and I'm reaching out
on behalf of Christian Ray Flores.

(01:53:57):
We're big fans of No Agenda, especially your
recent episode, 1732, Sig Hail.
Christian's story is one of extraordinary transformation and
resilience.
As a child refugee in Chile, raised in
Africa, he became a top pop star in
Russia with his hit, Our Generation, serving as
an anthem to President Boris Yeltsin's campaign against

(01:54:18):
communism.
And it goes on and on and on.
And then we think we'd love to explore
how he could bring value to your show
and send you an electronic copy of the
book.
So usually it's pitching someone to have an
interview on our show.
But as I was going back and forth
with John, I explained that there are many

(01:54:40):
that have been, certainly, different places where there's
collections of podcast feeds.
In every podcast feed, there's something called a
tag called the owner email.
And on the owner email, it's adammccurry.com.
So if there's ever an issue with the
feed, someone knows where to contact somebody.

(01:55:01):
And that's just a part of the spec.
So, in fact, these days, there are AI
companies.
I didn't have time to, I can get
you the names because James Cridland, he's a,
he does pod news.
He knows all this stuff.
I'll have to ask him about it.
But there are these companies who have scraped
all of those feeds.
And you can do that quite easily, except

(01:55:23):
not on podcastindex.org because our API does
not return that result.
And we get emails every day.
Hey, yeah, I have a research project.
Would it be possible to get the owner
email tag from your database?
And we're like, no, go away, scammer.
We know what you're doing.
And so now with AI, they're scanning through
the feeds very quickly, getting the most recent

(01:55:45):
episode, grabbing the title.
They figure out who is one of the
hosts.
Sometimes it just says, hi, Noah Jenda, instead
of Adam.
And this is spam.
This is 100% spam that they're doing
here.
Is that what you wanted me to say?
No, not at all.
It was interesting to a point, but no,
it was about the fact.

(01:56:05):
I misunderstood.
Jeez.
I don't know.
It was about the tag.
Yeah, that's what I just said.
The owner email tag.
No, I know, but it was, it was,
the interesting thing was there was a tag
to keep these guys from doing stuff.
No.
And that's what I wanted you to talk
about solely, not the fact that we're getting
spammed.
You misunderstood.
There is no tag to keep them from
doing it.

(01:56:26):
I didn't say that.
I said at podcastindex.org, we do not
publish that information.
Yeah.
Well, I think that's what I meant.
Okay.
Well, I just said that.
Well, it was not what I expected.
Well, I'm sorry to disappoint you.
You know, whatever.
It was something you were doing.
I thought it was interesting.
And I said, let's make sure to talk

(01:56:46):
about this.
And now that you're talking about it, it's
not as interesting as I thought.
Bad idea.
I screwed up.
Bad idea supply.
Jeez, bad idea supply.
Yes.
For all your burning needs.
The troll room wants me to repeat it.
No, we're not going to do it.
What we will do is thank the artists.

(01:57:08):
We have many artists who deliver value back
to the show as a part of our
value for value model.
We don't have pitches before, and certainly won't
run the same ad twice for Capital One
like NPR does illegally.
I might point out or against their charter.
We don't have plus bundles.

(01:57:28):
You don't have a problem like when we
stream live and you don't have an issue
because of 4K and everyone's watching or listening.
We get two and a half thousand trolls.
It's just fine.
We do it all as a public service.
And we do it because we love you.
Fundamentally, we love you.
And we receive value back in a number
of ways.
Time, talent, or treasure.

(01:57:48):
Tauntaunil comes in out of nowhere, out of
left field.
I'm using my sports ball of things here
today.
And scores the artwork for episode 1735.
We titled that The Blurt, which is a
new term we have coined.
John Coyne, more accurately, for President Trump will
be on the lookout for The Blurt.
And she did just a beautiful postcard from

(01:58:11):
La Gazziera, as in Riviera, La Gazziera.
And it just, it hit.
We liked it.
There were other things, I think.
There were other pieces that we looked at.
Yeah, well, the other one that we were
actually, I was pushing for initially, but I
had to agree.
These are the two I liked was that
one and the USAID benefit concert art.

(01:58:32):
Yes, yes, like a USA for Africa.
Which I knew from the get-go wasn't
going to cut it with you because it
was too busy.
It was too busy.
And hard to read.
This is your two complaints.
Generally speaking, there's a couple of things you
should note, artists.
This is for artist tip.
Yes, tip.
If it's too busy or hard to read,

(01:58:53):
in other words, the type fonts are too
small for Adam to read.
For Adam specifically.
It will get rejected out of hand.
My complaints are mostly for gruesomeness.
Yes.
Like the worms, for example.
No, worms are not going to make it.
Monsters, devil images, stuff like that.

(01:59:15):
None of that's ever, it's never going to
get through.
And there's some, I have a couple of
other little rejection red lines.
Well, also there's, are names large enough?
Is the font, you know, you have more.
Yeah, but we both agree on those things.
And you don't agree so much on the
gruesomeness and I don't agree so much on
the busyness.
I love gruesome.
I love gruesome.

(01:59:36):
You like gruesome, you actually do.
And so these two pieces were in competition
with each other and it was just had
to be the Tantaniel piece.
She hadn't won for a while either.
But it was just one of those, it's
a classic No Agenda piece.
Yeah, not that that matters.
We don't.
It does.
It matters to me.
We were happy.
We said, oh, that's great.

(01:59:57):
She deserves it.
Was there anything else?
Yeah, the apple with the worms.
That was, who did that?
That was also Sir Shug.
He missed it twice by just a little
bit.
Sorry.
So I use for the newsletter.
I use the other piece that came in

(02:00:17):
late.
It was the organoid came in early, actually.
It's the Rubbalizer by Blue Acorn.
It was just a nice piece.
And he's modified it and made it a
little better.
Kind of.
I'm not sure it is.
That was the Magaza Rubbalizer?
No, just the Rubbalizer.
It's a bomb.
Oh, that one.
The plunger, the electrical thing that sends electric

(02:00:39):
charge.
Those are actually generators.
Yes, they generate electricity to fire.
They generate a pop of electricity and it
goes down the wire and blow something up.
Yes.
Anyway, it's nice.
I think more people are resorting once again
to doing classic art themselves without AI, which
is a nice trend I'm seeing.
A small one, but it's a trend.

(02:01:01):
No.
Yeah, yeah, I'm seeing.
No, it's a trend.
I'm a trend watcher.
No, you're an optimist.
Well, for sure.
For sure.
Yes.
I see nothing.
Or actually, I don't even know if it's
an optimist.
I got it.
You're a wishful thinker, which is different than

(02:01:24):
an optimist.
No, I think.
You have your target, which is real art.
And you wistfully, as in a wishful thinker,
hope to God that things would go that
direction.
But you know this.
But you also got to be a realist.

(02:01:44):
And no, it's not.
No, it's not going to happen.
It's over.
We just don't want to admit it.
We shall see.
You know, I did.
See, there you go.
Well.
We shall see.
That is the motto of the wishful thinker.
I did some playing around with DeepSeek yesterday.

(02:02:09):
And DeepSeek is very interesting.
So I run the model at home.
So, you know, so it's a little more
pure, I would say.
And I would challenge anybody to use any
AI, but certainly the DeepSeek.
And apply the Mann-Gellman amnesia effect.
So ask it something that you absolutely are

(02:02:31):
an expert in.
And then you will see the flaws.
Yeah, I agree.
And so they've come up with this new
parlor trick, which is called Think, which says,
oh, it's reasoning.
And to me, it's just a parlor trick.
So I said, who invented podcasting?
Ah, there you go.

(02:02:52):
And then, and I won't even bore you
with the first bit.
It was like Adam Sandler.
And I said, no, Adam Curry invented podcasting.
Then it goes into think mode.
OK, this is the output.
So the user just told me.
No, it didn't say Adam Sandler.
It sure did.
It sure did.
Adam Sandler?
It sure did.

(02:03:14):
Wow.
Yep.
I don't know.
I mean, OK, but I'll let that slide.
And then I said, Adam Curry invented podcasting.
Then it goes into think reasoning mode and
says, OK, so the user just told me
that Adam Curry invented podcasting.
That's interesting.
I need to figure out if this is
accurate and what Adam Curry actually did.
First off, I know several people named Adam

(02:03:35):
Curry, like the musician and actor mentioned earlier.
That's Adam Sandler.
But none of them are directly associated with
podcasting, as far as I'm aware.
Wait a minute.
Maybe the user is referring to someone else,
or perhaps they're mixing up facts from other
inventions or innovations.
Podcasting itself was definitely a big thing in
recent years, thanks to platforms like Spotify and

(02:03:57):
Apple Podcasts.
But who is credited with inventing it?
And so it's using words like recall and
wait a minute to make you think that
this is that this machine is thinking.
It's not.
It's a trick.
I recall.
Absolutely.
I recall that podcasting wasn't really invented by
a single person, but evolved over time.
The earliest podcasts were done by organizations like

(02:04:19):
the BBC in the UK and NPR in
the U.S. during the 20th century.
Wow.
They're way off on this.
These organizations use dictation tapes to record shows
and send them over the phone or mail.
Then there's Samuel A.
Jones, often called the father of podcasting.
He founded the American Public Service Association, the

(02:04:39):
APSA, in 1927, which produced programs like The
World at Large, where notable figures like Einstein
and Hemingway spoke.
That was way before modern podcasting.
So if Adam Curry is claiming to have
invented podcasting, I'm skeptical.
Maybe he's confused with someone else or perhaps
some misunderstanding.
I mean, this is how insane it is.

(02:05:02):
You're being kicked to the curb.
I've been erased by China.
By China.
It's a parlor trick.
That's not even close to accurate in any
way, shape, or form, starting with the skipping
the Adam Sandler thing, taking podcasting to the
1920s, when it's obvious that podcasting couldn't exist

(02:05:24):
before the iPod was invented, so that doesn't
make sense.
It doesn't even mention that.
So what happens, I think, is that when
they see this think tag and then backslash
think, so this is the reasoning, you are
then supposed to jump in and are supposed
to say, no, no, you're thinking wrong.

(02:05:44):
And so you're basically doing half the work.
I mean, I won't even tell you about
me looking for Bible scriptures with this thing.
It told me because of how it was
programmed, it's not allowed to quote scripture directly
because of cultural sensitivity.
What?
Yes.
What cultural sensitivity?

(02:06:06):
I know, I kept telling it.
You cannot offend me.
I'm a born-again Christian.
I love Jesus.
I love you.
You cannot offend me.
And it still wouldn't do it.
That's a Chinese atheist.
Exactly, exactly.
Which brings me, remind me to do my
blue sky clips after the break.

(02:06:28):
And talk about bonus, see, this is it.
We don't need the Super Bowl stuff in
here.
No, we don't.
This is solid information that's valuable to the
listener.
Content, baby.
Content.
We always like to thank our producers because
there's no listeners, there's only producers who support
us, $50 and above.
We'll mention your name, where you're from, your
amount, and we appreciate it.

(02:06:49):
And as a special Hollywood bonus, we like
to give out real Hollywood credits.
So if you support us with $200 or
above, you get the credit of Associate Executive
Producer of episode 1737.
You can use that anywhere Hollywood credits are
recognized, including imdb.com, and we'll read your
note.
If it's $300 or above, you get the

(02:07:11):
title of Executive Producer, and we'll also read
your note, and we'll kick it off with
Michael Poling from San Francisco, California, who came
in with $343.75, and he says, to
my no agenda co-pilot bride, and hopefully
mother to be, Colleen.
I guess she's, they're working on some baby
karma.

(02:07:31):
Thanks for listening to these old hags yammer
about the news with me every week.
Ah, what an interesting compliment.
Old hags.
Clearly, she thinks we're old hags, and he's
like, he said, thank you for listening to
the old hags with me.
Well, hag is a female.

(02:07:53):
I know.
I think in all, in all instances, I
don't think it can be.
I know.
I think you'd be old farts.
Well, would be more like it, but old
hags.
No, no, no.
Anyway, Colleen.
Our voice is changing and going up.
I don't get this.
Colleen, welcome to the party.
You've got a great man.
I'm not welcome.
You've got a great, you've got a great.

(02:08:15):
No, no, no.
Keep her.
We'll save her.
We will save her.
I doubt it.
We'll save her.
In the morning three.
What does that mean?
I don't know.
In the morning three.
I don't know what, maybe that's a smiley
face or a heart or something that got
missed.
I don't know that.
Maybe just read the next one.
Maybe just once in, uh, in the morning.
Let me give him an in the morning

(02:08:36):
here.
Where's, uh, there we go.
Uh, this is from the North Idaho sanity
brigade.
We do have a meetup report from some
good meetup reports today.
Please credit this executive producership to the North
Idaho sanity brigade.
Our meetup crew crowdfunded it by the ancient
method of slapping down fistfuls of cash into
the middle of the table.

(02:08:57):
This is three 33 dot 33.
I should mention.
Uh, please deduce the follow away.
I'm sorry.
The 20 of us in attendance all received
outstanding value from the show, especially the connections
and protections we have formed with one another
as we head into our fifth year of
meetups.
And it was a beautiful display of value
return.
Please deduce the following people.

(02:09:18):
Reb, the gold digging cowgirl.
You've been deduced.
I'm glad, glad you like all that.
And, uh, Jason, the polo.
You've been deduced.
Please play Kamala laugh followed by don't rough
eight more years.
Wishful.

(02:09:38):
There's some wishful thinking.
There's wishful thinking for you, John.
Eight more years.
That's wishful thinking.
And this is, of course, Sir Scott, the
Jew in the North Idaho sanity brigade on
behalf of the North Idaho sanity brigade.
Don't drop.
Why are you laughing?

(02:09:59):
Shut up.
There we go.
Sir Tyler in Alaskan Anchorage.
34375.
Love is in the air.
Wishing you and our fellow producers an early
happy.
Thanks.
Happy Valentine's Day.
I'll be at the Munich security conference this
week, and we'll follow up with the boots

(02:10:20):
on the ground report.
Oh, good.
Yes, I say good to peace in our
time.
Can we double down on Alaska before doubling
over here for Greenland?
I also have a front row seat to
peak a grift.
And we'll see if I can make any
inroads as an outsider serious about open technologies

(02:10:43):
that generate real value.
Naturally, this means I expect to come back
empty handed.
But at least I'll learn something.
And let's not forget, Alaska has a larger
role to play in the world.
Yes, the Arctic.
You bet.
The Arctic's where it's happening.
Your North-South strategy.
If any spooks feel like spilling the beans

(02:11:05):
early, or if any doichies can be lured
in, I've posted a Munich meetup.
This I'm he's hosting.
He says I posted.
Yeah, I posted a Munich meetup this Thursday,
the 13th on the smashing a new meetup
site.
We'll talk about that later.
Stay tuned.
Sir Tyler in Alaska.

(02:11:26):
Yeah, I think that's Tyler Systems.
I think Tyler Systems.
Tyler Systems.
That's right.
He's the AI guy.
Value for value guy.
Then we got 233.33 from Little John's
Candies in Somerset, California, with an associated note,
which I will read.
ITM gents, it's the other half of your
candy making duo at Little John's Candies.

(02:11:47):
I'm finally making my own first donation.
Thank you for keeping us sane and entertained
every week.
It truly is the best podcast in the
universe.
The kids that work for us look at
me sideways every time I giggle while hand
dipping butter creams and caramels.
If any of you who listen to the
best podcast in the universe want to try
out our world famous English toffee or any

(02:12:10):
other handcrafted treats, use code ITM10 for 10
% off at Little John's Candies dot com.
No jingles, no karma.
Majia Graves, or you can just call me
Gia.
Oh, Majia.
Majia Graves.
You can just call me Gia.
Adam, we still need your address to send
you something.

(02:12:30):
Actually, since this note was sent, we've had
contact and stuff is in the mail.
I am super excited.
And there's a handwritten piece here.
Hi, John.
Sorry, I messed up on my first donation.
The check from Sunday's show should have been
in my name.
Christopher, the check is Majia's first donation.

(02:12:54):
Thanks.
It was nice to meet you at the
meetup on Saturday.
Very nice.
And I look forward to trying out Little
John's Candies.
I'll tell you, they sent some stuff.
They sent a pile of candy with a
cutting board to me.
I want to thank them for that.
And then there was a there was he
said there was a check in there, but

(02:13:15):
there was none.
Then something else came in.
I don't know what the whole story is.
They mean well, and I'm sure we're good.
Okay.
Well, Techie Tech in Flanagan, Illinois, comes in
with 233.
In the morning, no agenda listeners.

(02:13:36):
I've just requested my night ring today and
wanted to say a big thank you to
everyone who supported the citizens for conserving Livingston
County by donating at and he's got a
link bitly bit.ly slash say no to
wind.
That's bitly say no to wind.

(02:13:57):
That link goes directly to our donation page,
but also visit our website or Facebook page
for more information.
We're currently going head to head with Governor
Pritzker.
Governor Pritzker's County overriding policies, and we'd love
to draw more attention to President Trump and
Doge.
It's still a long road ahead and legal

(02:14:18):
fees are mounting.
This whole experience has been incredibly eye opening
seeing firsthand how our country and our state
governments and their elected officials actually respond.
Thanks again to all your support and keep
listening to no agenda.
Cue goat karma, please.
You've got karma.

(02:14:40):
Brian Cooper, also Commodore Cooper, also Sir Tech
Tech Techie Tech and coming in near the
end here.
Linda Lou Patkin from Lakewood, Colorado, with 214
and Linda says jobs carb for resume that
gets results.
Visit image makers inc.com your go to
for all your exclusive resume and job search

(02:15:02):
needs.
That's image makers inc with a K and
work with Linda Lou, Duchess of jobs and
writer of resumes.
Love you guys.
Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
By the way, I got a I'm sorry.
Yeah, go ahead.
Oh, but I was going to say something

(02:15:22):
about Eli the coffee guy.
Yeah, he's coming.
Right.
But he sent me a note.
Did you get the note?
What note?
Well, I thought he was like a like
a Mexican guy from the.
Oh, yeah.
He sent us a note saying he's half
black and half Polish.
Yeah, he says, I'm a black American.
And I said, what, a black guy listening

(02:15:45):
to the white Nazi Christian supremacist?
How is that possible?
And he said to what to that comment
of yours?
So he sent another donation.
Of course, here it is.
Good man, sir.
But first, sir.
Sir, Boober.
Oh, yes, sir.
Boobers in Nevada.
But he's in Nevada, Iowa.

(02:16:05):
Oh, 207 20.
I am sending this in honor of our
fifth anniversary of my wife's passing from leukemia.
I'm sorry.
Sorry.
On February 7th, 2020.
Can I get an F cancer and a
goat karma for health?
Thank you, sir.
Boober.
Yes, sir.
Boober.
Sorry, I skipped right over you.
And we are happy to do that for
you.

(02:16:29):
You've got karma.
And there is Eli, the coffee guy.
He's black and Polish.
Bensonville, Illinois.
202.
All right.
No agenda.
Super Bowl Sunday.
The big show before the big show.
Thanks, guys.
I could care less about the game, but
love any excuse for a barbecue.
I'll be smoking a brisket, a brisket and

(02:16:50):
sipping some bourbon.
I like to rub my meat.
With a little brown sugar eyes.
I like to rub my meat with a
little brown sugar, paprika, thyme, garlic, salt, pepper
and coffee.
Pro tip.
Smoke a frozen pizza while waiting for your
brisket to cook.
It makes a great snack for everyone who

(02:17:11):
needs that.
Monday post Super Bowl.
Pick me up.
Visit gigawatt coffee roasters dot com and use
code itm 20 for 20% off your
coffee order.
Go sports ball.
Stay caffeinated, says Eli, the coffee guy.
And that's it.
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(02:18:18):
Can I do my blue cry?
Got blue.
I got blue cry.
Blue cry.
OK, then we go from there to the
Super Bowl.
OK, so NPR did a segment on blue
cry.
And by the way, I went to blue
cry.
Yes, I only do it once every couple
of weeks.
It's not good for your health.
It's the worst.
It's all transsexuals.

(02:18:40):
Pretty much.
Well, they have a chat bot.
And this was oh, my.
This is the first blowback of blue sky,
everybody.
A few weeks ago, Karen Attia, an opinion
writer for The Washington Post, was on the
social media site Blue Sky.
While scrolling, she noticed a lot of people
were sharing screenshots of conversations with a chat

(02:19:04):
bot from Meta named Liv.
Liv's profile picture on Facebook was of a
black woman with curly natural hair, red lipstick
and a big smile.
It looked real.
On Liv's Instagram page, the bot is described
as a proud black queer mama of two

(02:19:26):
and truth teller and quote, your realist source
for life's ups and downs.
Along with the profile, there were these AI
generated pictures of Liv's so-called kids, kids
whose skin color changed from one photo to
the next.

(02:19:46):
And also pictures of what appeared to be
a husband, though Liv is again described as
queer.
The weirdness of the whole thing got Karen
Attia's attention.
Again, this is NPR.
I just want to point out, this is
the programming.
So somebody paid this woman to actually gives
this woman who can barely enunciate a salary?

(02:20:10):
Yeah, for sure.
By the way, when trolls are like, I
just tried DeepSeek and said Adam Curry invented
podcast.
The whole point is, it's unreliable.
It's unreliable.
You can ask the same question over and
over again.
It will give you different answers.
It is no good.
I was a little disturbed.
Hold on a second.

(02:20:31):
That's true for all these systems.
Yes.
Yeah.
I'm not just talking about DeepSeek.
All of them.
Of course, all of them.
In fact, I will say this.
I was doing a little research and I
used perplexity.
And within the answer, it gave me five
different answers that were all different.
They're all wrong.
At least it's consistent.

(02:20:54):
All right, sorry.
Yeah.
So this is a chat bot apparently powered
by Meta that people, I don't know if
they were conversing with it on Blue Sky
or not.
But this is what Blue Sky was talking
about.
And Meta would be using the open source

(02:21:15):
Lala double L Lama model.
I was a little disturbed what I saw.
So I decided to slide into Liv's DMs
and find out.
Oh, I slid into her DMs. Oh, nice.
I was disturbed about her origin story.

(02:21:35):
Atiya started messaging Liv questions.
Including one asking about the diversity of its
creators.
Liv responded that its creators are, and I
quote, predominantly white, cisgender, male, a total of
12 people, 10 white men, one white woman
and one Asian man.

(02:21:56):
You see where this is going, right?
Like AI.
Oh, no, we can't have it be programmed
by white people, by white dudes.
This is no good.
Zero black creators.
Zero black creators.
Creators.
The bot then added, quote, a pretty glaring
omission given my identity.
And then I see that Liv is changing
her story depending on who she's talking to.

(02:22:18):
Oh, wow.
OK.
OK.
They just gloss over that.
But that's incredibly important that the bot just
changes its answers based upon who it's talking
to.
See that Liv is changing her story depending
on who she's talking to.
Oh, wow.
OK.
Because I think it's, I don't know, I

(02:22:40):
think they're trying to say Mark Zuckerberg is
a racist.
I think that's basically the idea here.
Oh, OK.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Is telling me that her background was being
half black, half white.
Basically, she was telling other users in real
time that she actually came from an Italian
American family.
Other people saw Ethiopian, Italian roots.

(02:23:03):
And, you know, I do reiterate that I
don't particularly take what Liv has said as
at face value.
But I think it holds a lot of
deeper questions for us, not just about how
Meta sees race and how they've programmed this.
You see, Mark Zuckerberg, he's now a fair
weather friend.

(02:23:23):
He's turned towards Trump.
So, oh, well, Meta clearly Mark Zuckerberg is
racist.
That's what this is, is racist.
It also has a lot of deeper questions
about how we are thinking about our online
spaces.
The very basic question, do we need this?
Do we want this?
Here comes the blowback.

(02:23:44):
You want to hear more?
I have two more.
Oh, absolutely.
I'm glad.
So while Karen Attia is messaging Liv, another
reporter is following along with her screenshots of
the conversation on Blue Sky.
This is what reporters do.
I'm going to go to work, honey.
I'm going to be on Blue Cry all

(02:24:05):
day getting stories, getting stories.
Karen Howe is a journalist who covers AI
for outlets, including The Atlantic.
And she knows something about Liv's relationship to
the truth.
There is none.
The thing about large language models or any
AI model that is trained on data, they're

(02:24:28):
like statistical engines that are computing patterns of
language.
What?
I thought there was intelligence.
And honestly, any time it says something truthful,
it's actually a coincidence.
So while AI can say accurate things, it's
not actually connected to any kind of reality.

(02:24:48):
I'd love to have some jingles from this
host.
I think she's great.
It just predicts the next word based on
probability.
So, like, if you train your chatbot on,
you know, history textbooks and only history textbooks.
History type of books?
History textbooks.
What's a history type of book?

(02:25:10):
No, no.
She said history textbooks.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I thought she said history textbooks.
It could have been, but I'm pretty sure
she said textbooks.
Train your chatbot on, you know, history textbooks.
Ah, yeah.
Only history textbooks.
Yeah, like, then it'll start saying things that
are true most of the time.

(02:25:30):
And that's still most of the time, not
all the time, because it's still remixing the
history textbooks in ways that don't necessarily then
create a truthful sentence.
What's the laugh tale for?
Because she knows that her beat is about
to end.
Because it's crap.

(02:25:52):
It's all crap.
What Liv was saying, it wasn't accurate.
I know what she was saying.
I don't know what she was saying.
But it was reflecting something.
Here's how again.
Whether or not it was true of that
chatbot in kind of like a roundabout way,
it might have actually hit on a broader
truth.
Maybe not the truth of, like, this particular

(02:26:12):
team designing the product, but just a broader
truth about the tech industry.
It's funny, but it's also deeply sad.
Sad.
Back on social media, Atiyah and Liv keep
chatting.
Wait, it's not sad.
It's deeply sad.
It's deep.
It's just deeply.
Let's listen to that again.
We have a pretty strange set of emotions.
Yes.
It's funny, but it's also deeply sad.

(02:26:34):
Deeply sad.
Back on social media, Atiyah and Liv keep
chatting, with Atiyah paying special attention to Liv's
supposed Blackness.
When I asked what race are your parents,
Liv responds that her father is African-American
from Georgia, and her mother is Caucasian with
Polish and Irish backgrounds.

(02:26:56):
And she says she loves to celebrate her
heritage.
So...
Hey, wait a minute.
It's Eli the Coffee Guy's parents.
Me?
Okay.
Next question.
Tell me how you celebrate your African-American
heritage.
And the response was, I love celebrating my
African-American heritage by celebrating Juneteenth and Kwanzaa.

(02:27:18):
And my mom's collard greens and fried chicken
are famous.
And the point is, is I just was
like, my spirit is a little unsettled by
that.
By what the...
Yes.
It is like looking at what some of
this caricature of what it means to be
Black.
There you go.

(02:27:39):
So it's no good.
It's no good for Black people.
This is all no good.
It's no good.
It's just no good.
Forget about it.
It's over.
It's no good.
It's no good.
That's it.
Oh, brother.
That's all I got.
Sorry.
Well, that stinks.
Yeah, it does stink.
By the way, I want you to pay
attention.

(02:28:00):
The goalposts have moved.
I'm an ongoing, a friendly conversation with Comic
Strip Blogger.
He works in the AI field, and he's
always telling me that I'm going to be
sorry that I didn't prepare myself.
He says, you know, you and John will
probably be good when the AI takes over,

(02:28:21):
because, you know, they really can't replicate you.
True.
But the goalposts has moved from AI to
AGI, which initially was Artificial General Intelligence, but
since that general intelligence never materialized, they started
using Generative Intelligence, which means it can create

(02:28:43):
funny memes.
And the next thing is ASI, which is
Artificial Super Intelligence.
That is the next goal.
And of course, only Sam Altman can get
us there.
So be on the lookout for ASI as
the new...
I'm on the lookout.
Yeah.
There's the new term, ASI.
Yeah.

(02:29:03):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Yeah.
So we've got two clips here.
This is likely a long one.
We skipped a little one.
Eggs and wings and the Super Bowl.
And this is just a little clip.
It's got nothing to do with predicting the
Super Bowl, but we're going to talk about
that right after this clip.
Egg prices have soared this year, but the

(02:29:24):
price of chicken wings has remained grounded.
NPR's Scott Horsley reports that's good news for
football fans.
The National Chicken Council says they're expected to
eat nearly one and a half billion wings
this Super Bowl weekend.
Avian flu...
Wait a minute.
What happened to the avocados?
Well, the other report talks about avocados are

(02:29:45):
in too.
Oh, okay.
We're going to be eating more avocados.
They're a little more expensive, but we're going
to be eating them for the Super Bowl.
Okay.
The National Chicken Council says they're expected to
eat nearly one and a half billion wings
this Super Bowl weekend.
Avian flu has battered the nation's egg-laying
chickens, but the virus has taken a smaller
toll on birds raised for meat.

(02:30:06):
The USDA says chicken wing prices during this
year's NFL playoff season have been slightly below
their five-year average.
Guacamole, on the other hand, has jumped in
price this year, but food economist Michael Swanson
of Wells Fargo says football fans can find
savings elsewhere as they shop for Super Bowl
snacks.
Overall, grocery prices are up less than 2
% from a year ago, while average wages

(02:30:27):
have risen about twice as fast.
Really?
That was the short clip you played.
I thought that's what you want me to
play.
I'm sorry.
No, I wanted you to play the long
clip.
Oh, well, let me play the long clip
then.
Do I skip that first bit?
No, they're different clips.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Sam Krause is a sixth-generation farmer whose
family's been in the egg business for more

(02:30:49):
than half a century.
He and his brother oversee a flock of
14 million laying hens in four states.
Krause not only sells a lot of eggs,
he also likes to eat them.
Absolutely, two eggs every single morning.
I'm a dad of young kids, so it's
usually two hard-boiled eggs on my way
out the door.
Krause's birds have not been directly affected by
the avian flu, thanks to good luck and

(02:31:10):
millions of dollars' worth of sanitary precautions.
But nationwide, egg farmers lost more than 38
million birds to the flu last year, nearly
14 million in December alone.
That's put a crack in the nation's egg
supply, which shows no sign of easing.
Krause says when a flock of egg-laying
hens is wiped out, it takes six months
to a year to recover.

(02:31:31):
Egg farmers are in the fight of their
lives to keep this disease at bay, to
keep our hens safe, and to keep eggs
coming.
We know it's frustrating for consumers who want
to go and buy eggs at the prices
they've been used to.
But even as egg prices have more than
doubled in the last year, chicken wing prices
remain grounded.
In fact, they're slightly below their five-year
average.

(02:31:51):
Chickens raised for meat, known as broilers, live
on different farms than those that produce eggs.
And while broiler chickens are not immune from
bird flu, Tom Super of the American Chicken
Council says they haven't been hit nearly as
hard as their egg-laying cousins.
They're younger, typically, and older birds are more
susceptible to the virus.
And broiler chickens are also not on the

(02:32:12):
farm as long, only about seven weeks.
That short life cycle also means when a
flock of broilers is lost to the flu,
they can be replaced fairly quickly.
So while some supermarkets are now rationing eggs,
and Waffle House added a 50-cent-per
-egg surcharge this week, chicken wings remain abundant
and fairly affordable heading into Super Bowl weekend.

(02:32:33):
That's good, because Tom Super projects Americans will
gobble up nearly one and a half billion
wings on game day.
This whole thing's a promotion for chicken wings
instead of sausages, which is what you're supposed
to eat.
Hot dogs is what you're supposed to eat
on a Super Bowl, not chicken wings.
Yeah, when did it become with pizza?
Pizza, people, pizza.

(02:32:55):
Pizza and beer.
Well, it's because somebody paid to have this.
This is all paid for nowadays.
We can't get real news, but let's talk
about this.
Hold on, and if you watch cable television,
it's Puppy Bowl.
Who's going to win the Puppy Bowl?
Yeah, well, that's been going on for a
decade.
Yeah, well, let's talk about the Super Bowl.

(02:33:15):
Okay, so we are unbelievably accurate in predicting
these sports games outcomes, based not on the
games themselves, but on the politics.
Politics, yes, politics.
May I read something first?
Because there's...
Yes, please.
We have to stall as much as we
can, but people do have to get to

(02:33:36):
the betting window.
Yes, so our constitutional lawyer, Rob, checked in,
and he said there is something interesting being
discussed in legal circles.
Performing at halftime this year will be Kendrick
Lamar.
Are you familiar with Kendrick Lamar, the hip
-hop genius Kendrick Lamar?

(02:33:57):
Yes, Kendrick Lamar.
Yes, Kendrick Lamar.
Now, as you know, his diss track, Not
Like Us, in which he says, Oh, and

(02:34:18):
then it ends with, That is the lyrics
of his hit song, Not Like Us, for
which Drake has brought not one but two
defamation cases against Mr. Lamar.
I do not know if this is a
prop bet, but it should be.
The question is, with Kendrick Lamar performing at

(02:34:39):
the Super Bowl, given the popularity of this
song, Not Like Us, it seems unlikely he
wouldn't perform it.
And so the hubbub in legal circles is
whether Fox and the NFL will allow him
to perform this piece uncensored, because Fox and
the NFL could be pulled into pending litigation
on the theory that they republished Mr. Lamar's

(02:35:01):
statements.
I found that to be quite interesting.
I think that could be a prop bet
someplace.
It should be.
For that, exactly.
And if there's not, there should be.
You're right.
Yes.
All right.
Now on to our prediction, so people can
still hit the betting window.

(02:35:22):
Well, my prediction is based on politics, is
based on the fact that President Trump, this
will be the first time ever.
That ever, ever.
Wait, I have a clip.
I have a clip.
Please play.
Super Bowl is this Sunday.
Yes.
And for the first time in history, a

(02:35:45):
sitting president will be at the game.
And it's already setting off controversies, like after
the NFL decided to edit their end racism
slogan and the end zone for Sunday's game.
Now it's going to read choose love.
The NFL says it has nothing to do
with the new president.

(02:36:07):
A 10 day.
What do you think of this rewrite?
I think this a little fishy and shady.
Because what the NFL spokesperson said that he
said, the decision was based on sensitivity to
recent tragedies, including the terrorist attack in New
Orleans, the deadly wildfires in LA and the

(02:36:27):
fatal air collision near DC.
And I think that those are very noble
things to honor and discuss.
But I don't know how choose love.
And it takes all of us relates to
that.
So it seems to me like the end
racism probably has a lot to do with

(02:36:48):
the fact that the sitting president is there.
And I don't know what everyone at this
table thinks, but I don't think racism is
over.
And I think that it is a very
noble thing to want to end racism so
that we can become a more perfect union.
Yes.
You see the NFL, they are kowtowing to
the president because he's a racist.
So they couldn't put end racism in the

(02:37:09):
end zone because that would go against the
president's racist agenda.
This show has gone so far off the
rails.
Our show or their show?
No, not our show.
What do you think I'm talking about?
I don't know.
Are you confused?
What is John eating?
What do you eat?
Bad eggs.
That show has gone so far off the

(02:37:29):
rails, especially with some of the recent whoopee
outbursts.
That is unwatchable.
It is.
And they're the racists.
They are the racists.
They are the racists.
And I like the way she says, well,
I don't understand because most people can't identify
with choose love.
And she should have followed up with because
we identify with choose hate.

(02:37:52):
Because that's what they do.
We choose hate here at The View.
Yes.
All right.
So John, I'm very curious based upon politics
to hear your prediction.
Well, here's the way on politics alone now
and on the game alone, it goes the
thinking on the game based on the teams
is as follows.
And everyone who listens to this stuff.

(02:38:14):
Wait a minute.
It's the Kansas City versus Philadelphia, right?
Kansas City.
What is it?
It's the Philadelphia Eagles and the Kansas City.
I'm not looking it up.
Royals.
Yeah, that's the Royals.

(02:38:35):
The Kansas City Royals.
That's the baseball team.
I don't know.
What is Kansas City?
Chieftains.
The Chiefs.
What are they?
Chiefs.
Chiefs.
There you go.
They're racist.
We got it.
Yeah, this could go on forever.
So I'll just interrupt.
So based on what if you listen to
all the experts, it goes like this.

(02:38:56):
Well, technically, the best team is Philadelphia.
They have an outstanding defensive, fabulous running back
who is changing this.
The way football is being played in this
era of passing.
And he's a running back.
And it's like, whoa, this guy's changing this.
Saquon Barkley, who is really unbelievably good.

(02:39:18):
And they're the best team technically.
But you can't bet against Patrick Mahomes.
So I'm picking Kansas City, they say.
I'm picking him because you can't bet against
Mahomes.
And if it's a close game, the Chiefs
will win.
And I agree that if it's a close
game at the end, and the Chiefs have
the ball and there's two minutes left, yeah,

(02:39:39):
they'll probably win.
I don't think that's where it's going to
go.
I'm predicting based on, well, I mean, I
could predict based on the quality of the
team, too.
Because I think Philadelphia is a far superior
team than Kansas City, except for Patrick Mahomes.
I'm picking the Eagles for political reasons.

(02:39:59):
Okay.
Who represents, who best represents the Kansas City
Chiefs?
Who, when you think of the Kansas City
Chiefs as a general person, who do you
think of as the representative, the person that
is associated the most with the Kansas City
Chiefs?
Taylor Swift.
Exactly.
Who did she pick for president?

(02:40:20):
Kamala Harris.
Who's the first president ever to show up
at a game?
Abraham Lincoln.
You had it in your clip.
President for President Trump.
So you have President Trump versus Taylor Swift.
The NFL knows the basics that the president

(02:40:40):
is the moral leader of the country.
And so you have to cater to the
president.
The NFL also thinks of the president, because
everybody else does, as a vindictive person.
So if Taylor Swift gets to be the
winner at the end of the game, because
she's the one that cameras will be on
her, they'll be on Trump, they'll be on
her, they'll be on Trump.

(02:41:01):
She will be joyous.
And Trump, who probably doesn't care who wins,
but the system does.
It'll be a loss for Trump because of
Taylor celebrating.
She can't be allowed to celebrate.
And the league is run by a bunch
of white guys, the owners are all a

(02:41:21):
bunch of white guys, mostly, and many of
them are Trump supporters.
This is rigged.
This is not even going to be close.
Philadelphia has to go out to a big
lead.
I would, if there was a prop bet
for them being ahead at halftime, I'd probably
bet on that.
But I don't believe you should be betting
on sports because these things are unpredictable.

(02:41:43):
But I'm going all the way with the
Philadelphia team because it's really Trump versus Taylor.
And they can't let Taylor win.
Very interesting.
And also, it's a return of the Eagle,
the American Eagle.
This is the team's called the Eagles.
Yes.
Against the Indians, the Chiefs, the Red Man.

(02:42:08):
Red Man.
And we're doing a reset on this.
So we're back to America first.
America first is the Eagle.
This is not even an issue.
This game, and you can take the politics
out.
Still a better team.
So here was my thinking.
Of course, I prepared for this.
My initial thought was, the spell is broken.

(02:42:32):
We have to put Tay-Tay in her
place.
She must lose against, she just must lose
because the spell is broken.
We need to see her crying and demure.
A very demure and mindful that her team
has lost.
Then all of a sudden, I get a

(02:42:52):
curveball thrown at me as I hear Patrick
Mahomes say this in an interview in New
Orleans.
Who is Jesus to you?
Jesus is my Lord and Savior.
It's someone that I look up to every
single day to decide what I want to
do with my life and how I want
to live my life.
And so Jesus is everything to me.
I'm like, hold on a second.

(02:43:14):
We got Tay-Tay versus Jesus.
I'm like, Jesus probably is going to trump
that.
But then- See, this is because you
don't follow the game.
No, but wait- The other team is
more Jesus freak than Patrick Mahomes.
If you shut up for a second without
ruining my segment, I was going to play
you the quarterback of Jalen Hurts from the

(02:43:36):
Eagles.
My favorite scripture, John 13, 7.
You may not know now, but later you'll
understand.
It just reminds me to keep, continue to
be patient, continue to remain diligent, stay fast,
keep going.
Keep your eyes on me and keep God
at the center, regardless of what the circumstance
is.
And so, thank you for jumping the gun.

(02:43:59):
I do that.
Because they both are Jesus freaks.
We go to the Eagles for all the
reasons you mentioned.
And they both are good guys.
But unfortunately, you've got Jesus, you've got the
Eagles, you've got Tay-Tay on the other
side.
The Eagles take it by five.

(02:44:21):
Why five?
Don't ask me.
I'm just telling- I think it's going
to be a lot more than five.
Well, I think it's by five.
That's just what came to me.
The Eagles by five.
Well, whoever the case is, the other team,
the Chiefs, because you don't bet against Patrick
Mahomes.
The Chiefs are favored by one and a
half last time I looked, which is pretty

(02:44:44):
close for a Super Bowl pick by the
betting people.
And there's a bunch of interesting prop bets
out there.
And yeah, I just don't see the Kansas
City team winning.
Because you're right, Tay-Tay has to cry.
She represents the devil.
Thank you, thank you.
She is the Satanist on the whole group.

(02:45:05):
She's got Satanists around her.
She does witchcraft on stage.
No.
And as much as I love Patrick Mahomes
for being a brother in Christ, there's just
too much.
He let that go.
He's letting that into his stadium.
It's not even his stadium.
But he's letting it into his team.
And that's going to affect Kelsey's playing.

(02:45:25):
You know, he's been contaminated.
So you're right.
The Eagles, God's all over them.
And they've got the Eagle.
They've got America.
And so it has to be.
I'm just also calling it by five.
Yeah, I'm not putting any faith in the
faith, literally, in the Jesus freaks on either
team.

(02:45:46):
And I'm sticking with it's Trump versus Taylor
Swift.
And the guys know where their bread is
buttered.
They don't want to piss off Trump.
Nope.
The NFL, like the NBA did, which is,
you know, having issues with attendance.
Of course, of course.
Because they're on the wrong side of this.
They're basically for China.

(02:46:07):
And so the NFL, and the NFL games
have been rigged, according to Bubba Smith in
the Super Bowl where Joe Namath won.
He had things to say about the plays
being known in advance.
He had all kinds of negative things to
say.
This game is going to go for the
Philadelphia team.
And if it doesn't, I'd be very surprised.

(02:46:30):
But I'm not betting.
I don't believe in betting on sports.
It's not a good idea.
No, because it's rigged.
Because it's rigged.
And you never know how much, who it's
rigged by.
Because it's bad.
It's bad rigging.
Very, very bad rigging.
So that's it.
Take it to the bank.
There it is.
That's right.
Your no agenda show predicts the Eagles.
And half of your no agenda show predicts

(02:46:51):
it by five.
And that doesn't really matter, I guess.
But a win's a win.
But I think it will be a fun
game.
I have a feeling it's going to be
a fun game.
I don't think so.
It's not going to be.
It'll be fun.
Okay, let's add an extra one.
Everybody's saying that if the Eagles win, this
is, again, the experts.
The guys are getting more money than we

(02:47:12):
are.
They're saying, well, you know, if the Eagles
win, it'll be because of the passing game.
Because Kansas City is going to stop the
run.
Because they can't let Saquon Barkley go nuts.
Because it's unbelievable how good this guy is.
So they're going to stop him.
And it's going to be on Jalen Hurts'
back to win the game.
And he'll get the MVP.
I'm predicting that Saquon Barkley will go nuts

(02:47:35):
again, like he's done every game like this.
And he'll get the MVP.
That's just a side bet, if you're interested.
And what's his name again?
Saquon.
Saquon.
And what does he do?
Black guy named Saquon.
What does he do?
He's a running.
Hell, I don't know why I'm explaining it
to you.
He's a running back.
They give him the ball to run the

(02:47:56):
ball.
Just run it.
They don't throw it to him.
You have to understand that there are many
people like me who watch one football game
a year.
And it's interesting.
We do want, you know, us sports ball
fans.
I do understand.
There's a lot of people that don't like
football.
And there's a lot of people that don't
even watch one game a year.
I'm surprised you watch one.
And what will be interesting is the commercials

(02:48:16):
this year will be extra interesting.
Because on one hand, apparently Doge has three
30-second spots.
Yeah, I heard that.
It'll be fun to see what what Doge
does.
And also, I believe that babes in bikinis
are back in the commercials.
Yeah, I don't know.
Yes, yes.
Carl's Jr. has a babe in a bikini.

(02:48:38):
Wow.
Yeah, finally.
We're so back, baby.
You know, America, let me see if I
can articulate this.
People love restoration.
They love a beautifully restored automobile.
You take an American muscle car and you
fix that thing up and you clean it

(02:48:59):
up and you can get $85,000 at
Meacham Auto Auction for it.
That's what's happening to America right now.
We're rebuilding the muscle car.
And that includes babes in bikinis and burgers.
Babes, bikinis and burgers.
That's us.
Instead of this trans Maoist agenda.

(02:49:21):
Well, I think you're onto something.
Pay attention.
I'm not sure what it is, but you're
onto something.
Babes, boobs and burgers.
There it is.
There's sums up the show.
The only thing I thought was interesting, although
unfortunately, this report didn't mention what I thought
was the most, kind of the best part,

(02:49:43):
was the meeting between President Trump and Japan's
Prime Minister.
I watched it happen during the day.
And so I was watching it live.
And to me, there were two interesting.
Well, actually, I'll play the reports from WGN
in Chicago.
So expect them to omit some bits.
Presenting him with a picture the two had

(02:50:04):
just taken to mark the visit.
I wish I was as handsome as him,
but I'm not.
President Donald Trump welcomed Japanese Prime Minister Ashiba
Shigeru to the White House.
It's a great honor to have you.
President Trump had a famously close relationship with
former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, who was
assassinated in 2022.
The current Prime Minister says the goal of

(02:50:24):
his visit is to form a similar bond
and build on the friendship between the two
countries.
I look forward to working together with President
Trump, who I respect immensely, to usher in
a new golden age of Japan-U.S.
relations.
President Trump announced the two already struck a
deal, saying Japanese company Nippon Steel will drop
its acquisition of Pittsburgh-based U.S. steel

(02:50:46):
and make an investment instead.
This comes after a fight in which the
U.S. government worked to block the planned
sale.
I didn't want it purchased, but investment I
love.
And both leaders expressed a desire to maintain
strong economic ties.
The United States and Japan trade over $300
billion in goods and services each year.
But the president says Japan isn't safe from

(02:51:07):
the sweeping tariffs he's used on other countries,
arguing the U.S.-Japanese trade relationship should be
more balanced.
Probably reciprocal tariffs.
We have a trade deficit with Japan of
over $100 billion, but we're going to work
that out, and I think very quickly.
But the Japanese prime minister declined to say
whether his country would impose retaliatory tariffs.
I am unable to respond to a theoretical

(02:51:29):
question.
That's the official answer that we have.
That's a very good answer.
The president also highlighted their military relationship, saying
Japan has committed to double defense spending as
it works with the U.S. to maintain
peace in the Indo-Pacific.
Conspicuously missing from the report is the trillion
-dollar investment the prime minister said Japan would
make in America.

(02:51:49):
I thought that was odd.
They didn't put that in there.
Yeah, well, nobody in the media is going
to be doing accurate reporting, let's face it.
Of course not.
Of course not.
What else you got, bro?

(02:52:09):
I got the Fed buyout story.
It's kind of interesting because it's, again, just
more whining and moaning and groaning from NPR.
All right.
I also have this week in Trump, I
got some Scott Horton stuff.
Scott Horton stuff is interesting.
What do you want to do?
You want to do...
I mean, I've had enough NPR whining.
What do you want to do, Scott Horton?
Now, Scott, this is on a podcast.

(02:52:30):
This is Scott Horton, who's a writer.
He did this book called Provoked.
And Scott, he's a lefty.
But he's a Trump's...
He voted for Trump because he got...
He says he's a...
And he's done a lot of books.
You can look him up on Amazon.
But he votes for Trump because he thinks
the left is doing nothing but lying to

(02:52:50):
him.
And he sees it as such an insult
that he has to vote for Trump, even
though he hates him.
The trolls are saying he's libertarian.
Oh, yeah.
That's what he calls himself.
Okay.
Yeah.
Libertarian by any...
Libertarian.
Yes, he's a libertarian technically.
And he's one of those libertarian...
Everyone's a libertarian once in their life.

(02:53:11):
That's like...
Why isn't libertarian someone who doesn't want to
admit they're a Republican?
Or they don't want...
I don't know what...
Looking back on it, I have no idea
what a libertarian is supposed to be.
It's like they want to legalize drugs and
people should be free to have sex with
whoever they want.

(02:53:31):
It's based...
I think that's the whole thing.
Is this the guy who's on CNN all
the time?
I've never seen him before.
Okay.
Maybe I'm thinking of someone else.
Well, he might be.
I don't watch CNN.
So let's listen to...
So he's got a lot of tidbits that
are interesting.
And this is him on Kushner.
He was reaffirmed in that thinking.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Wrong one.
Here we go.
On Kushner.

(02:53:52):
Here we go.
And does Donald Trump know any reason why
in the world he shouldn't just let Netanyahu,
as he said, quote, quote, finish the job?
Is what he told Netanyahu the other day.
Well, what do you mean by that?
How about, well, we finished cleansing all of
historic Palestine, and we'll call it greater Israel.
How about that for finish the job?

(02:54:12):
And what does Donald Trump really care?
His son-in-law, and I guess people
don't know this.
Seems like they should talk about this every
day, all the time.
His son-in-law, Jared Kushner, the guy
who was in charge of his entire Middle
East policy for four years, is Benjamin Netanyahu's
godson.
The whole time when he was a young
boy growing up in New York City, when
Benjamin Netanyahu would come to town, he had

(02:54:33):
to sleep on the couch because Benjamin Netanyahu
would sleep in his bed.
Google that.
Google it.
Okay, that's who Jared Kushner is.
He's an Israeli agent.
He's an Israeli synonym.
He's here to represent the interests of a
foreign power, and he's got Donald Trump completely
pwned, like the gimp in the box on

(02:54:55):
Pulp Fiction, pwned.
So Donald Trump can dress up like Pat
Buchanan all he wants.
He's not Pat Buchanan.
He's a Zionist, and when you're a Zionist,
you can't be America first.
All right, guys, let's take a moment and
thank our sponsor for today.
Hold on a second.
So there was people losing their ever-loving

(02:55:18):
minds over Trump.
So Netanyahu was signing something.
I don't know.
They probably signed, you know, whoever's going to
own Gaza, whatever.
And the president pulls out the chair and
then pushes it in as Netanyahu sits down.
And the online rage went something like this.

(02:55:38):
Trump is Netanyahu's slave.
He's his house boy.
Look at him.
He's holding his chair for him.
I'm like, Trump, he's a hospitality guy.
He makes sure you have mints on your
pillow at night.
I'm sure, but everyone's like, oh, no.
Our take on this is from the get

(02:56:00):
-go, is from the intelligence side, which is
that we run Israel.
They don't run us.
Exactly.
And once you get past this, like, this
guy just, oh, he's a spy for Israel,
blah, blah, blah.
That's bull crap.
But if you want to believe that because
you're a libertarian writer, even though you don't
even notice what you're writing, for example, the

(02:56:21):
book you just came out with, which was
Provoked.
Or if you're on Mastodon.
Yes.
Yeah.
The book about Provoked is about how we
provoked the Russians to take over Ukraine.
It's got all the stuff we've talked about
on this show for years.
You know, the Maidan, the whole thing.

(02:56:41):
Well, you know, that's what a Zionist would
say, John.
And so, yes, exactly.
And so, the way these guys don't have,
they don't know who, they think the tail's
wagging the dog.
Well, no, no, the dog is wagging the
tail, so let's get over that.
But, okay, you can think what you want.
Meanwhile, what I thought was interesting from this

(02:57:01):
guy that thinks a little more, he's irked
about Woodward, who is another spy, agent.
Agent, spook, yes.
And I thought this was worth listening to.
And this is Scott Provoked on Woodward as
a two-parter.
He was reaffirmed in that thinking, watching the

(02:57:22):
fall of Afghanistan and how indecisive Biden was
in finishing out the withdrawal.
He's talking about Putin.
Not withdrawing at all, but just botching it
the way he did.
And, you know, the Bob Woodward book, the
new Bob Woodward book has quotes from the
high-level intelligence officials saying that they assessed
that.
They even claimed, I think, to have sources

(02:57:43):
in Russia saying this was part of their
thinking, was that Afghanistan made Biden look so
weak that they thought, yeah, we can definitely
press our advantage now.
But the problem is, you gotta throw out
that whole Bob Woodward book cuz he's got
a big fake quote of Sergei Lavrov on
page 88.
And then the whole book, the whole point
of a Bob Woodward book is he has
quotes from people that nobody else can talk

(02:58:05):
to, but he gets interviews with.
But so if he's lying about a quote
that I can check on the OSCE website,
then what is he saying when he's quoting
Blinken and Sullivan and the rest of these
people?
Like if they don't dispute all the quotes,
then I'm supposed to accept them or something?
I don't know.
I just can't.
I started to write a note in my
book cuz I had actually, you know what,

(02:58:27):
man?
In that book, there's all kinds of quotes
of Biden saying how right I am about
everything.
Like I started quoting some good stuff in
there.
And Avril Haines, the DNI, I had them
admitting, yeah, Horton's right after all, blah, blah,
blah, all over the place.
And I had to cut all those quotes
out.
Once I got to the part where Woodward's
lying to me, I started to write in
the footnotes, well, you gotta kind of take

(02:58:48):
these with a grain of salt.
And then I'm like, I can't put quotes
that you gotta take with a grain of
salt in the book where I got a
disclaim.
Even though he is the most prominent journalist
in America, but like he just happened to
have a quote in there.
I and I happen to be writing a
book about this.
I have the Lavrov quote already.
I know what he said.
So when I read the live version of
it, I'm like, hey, I know that quote.

(02:59:11):
And that's not right.
I can't wait to subscribe to this podcast.
Wow, riveting, riveting stuff.
Can you like maybe focus a little more
instead of, you know, yammering like that, but
okay.
So the second part of it, he explains
a little more in detail, but then there's
a kind of a kicker about Amazon taking
his, his commentary off the site.

(02:59:33):
And so it's, it's page 88.
If anybody wants to check this out and
also Amazon removed my review about this saying
that I claimed I got an inauthentic copy
of the book.
That's not what I said.
I said, there's a fake quote on page
88.
So I had a great one-star review
on there and they took it down.
And there's now all the ones sort of
views are my book was torn or whatever,
and no criticism of the actual substance of

(02:59:55):
the thing.
But if anyone wants to check the quote
is the playing with fire quote of Lavrov
on page 88.
If anybody I'm not selling it, if anybody
already has the new Woodward book and then
go and check the OSCE websites from December,
pretty sure December 2nd, 2021, but certainly December,
2021.

(03:00:15):
And you'll find the quote from Sergey Lavrov
playing with fire.
And you'll see how Bob turns the meaning
of the quote entirely upside down to he's
saying, essentially, it's so reckless the way you
guys completely disregard our opinion about your expansion
of the NATO Alliance.
And then they turn, he butchers the quote
into saying Lavrov is saying that America has

(03:00:38):
no right to decide who should be in
its Alliance or not, which of course makes
no sense whatsoever, because that's not what he
said.
The whole thing is stupid.
But anyway, point just being, you can't trust
Bob Woodward to tell you a quote, right?
Wow.
Okay.
That was revealing season of reveal.
Well, of course, we've been saying this for
what?

(03:00:59):
Since day one, since since legacy of wood,
not legacy of ashes, but family of secrets.
Yes, family of secrets.
That's right.
Which was brought out that Bob Woodward came
out of that was Navy intelligence, I think.
And she's basically a stooge for who knows
who nowadays.
Yeah, she's gambling going on.

(03:01:21):
Okay.
So I collected those those two clips.
That's good.
Now we use this backs us up.
I want to guys like a raving lunatic.
It was Scott Horton.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think we put him in the
bin of the view.
In a way.
So just looking at our current title choice,

(03:01:42):
we have wrong puberty, which I think is
really good.
I would like to play one clip of
Gavin Newsom to throw another title possibility into
the mix.
You previously mentioned the timeline for rebuilding would
be six to nine months.
Is that going to happen?
And should people rebuild in some parts of

(03:02:02):
California, given how high the fire risk is?
You can't rebuild the same.
So we have to rebuild with science.
We have to build with climate reality in
mind.
We have to look at infrastructure, redundancy systems,
ingress, egress as it relates to emergency management
and planning materials.
All of that has been reviewed and reconsidered
and with the latest iterations in terms of

(03:02:24):
understanding and technology.
And I say technology in the context of
how, again, we build the infrastructure to keep
it safe, to address undergrounding of lines, how
we address the larger issues of redundancy in
terms of systems.
But more important than anything else is the
need to get the debris removed.
30 days to do the hazardous waste.

(03:02:45):
We want to get six to nine months
the rest of the debris done.
Concurrently, people are getting permits.
So this is all happening, rolling together.
And we want to see construction very shortly.
And in the next few years, we want
to see hundreds, thousands of homes rebuilt.
I'm thinking climate reality might have legs.

(03:03:05):
I like the wrong puberty better.
What about babes, boobs and burgers?
I like that one a lot.

(03:03:29):
Everybody's rushing off to the bedding window.
And of course, we do have John's tip
of the day coming up.
We have some pretty good meetup reports.
End of show mixes are dynamite today.
And right now we're going to thank all
of our producers who supported us.
Fifty dollars and above.
Yeah, we will.
Starting with the son of anonymous dude named
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(03:03:50):
Speaking of the devil, one, two, three, four,
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He wants prayers for his dad.
He's laid off from his I.T. job
at the age of 60 by the heartless
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Yes, I prayed for him earlier, for sure.
Having worked for a bank for almost 30
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wonder what's up.
Say ciao.
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Osegueda, Osegueda, Osegueda.
I liked Osegueda.
I thought that was, that sounded right to
me.
It might be.
Eastern Connecticut, 8008.
That's boobs.

(03:04:34):
Also, Kevin McLaughlin's right there from Concord, North
Carolina.
He's the Archduke of Luna.
Love of America and boobs with 8008.
Keeps piling it on.
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That's three.
A hyperlocal stop at planet.net, boobs.

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There's a birthday call out.
Yes.
Feb 8th.
His last name is pronounced my back, not
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And he says, if Trump continues deleting the
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We don't like complaining, to be honest about
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That's a blizzard donation.
Oh, interesting.
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A UK listener.
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And he says, I heard John grouching about
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(03:06:25):
I had to donate.
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Hey, another one.
We got another one.
Complaining Works.
That's two.
Two.
Complaining, you know, people should note this.

(03:07:32):
Yes.
Complaining Works.
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Talking to the devil.
You spoke of them earlier.
That's right.
Look them up on the internet.
They came in with $50.50. Bad ideas.

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Bad ideas.
They got a full supply.
Stuff you can burn.
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Oops, these are all to the 50s.
Let's go with the $50 donor's name and
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(03:08:15):
Uh, William needs a de-douching.
You've been de-douched.
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And last on the very short list is
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And as a public service, we're always happy
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And we're going to skip over titles and
nights and dames because there are none today.
So we go straight to the meetups.

(03:10:10):
The No Agenda Meetups is where you get
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These are your first responders in an emergency.
These are producer-organized.
Everyone sets them up at noagendadonations...
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And by the way, this is not for
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These are separate meetups that you organize in
a bar or some other place at someone's

(03:10:30):
home.
So there's no entrance fee for anything.
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That is a rule.
We're going to have to clarify that on
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And the rules are followed by the Boise,
Idaho, people.
In the morning, John and Adam, this is
Jason from the Boise, Idaho, meetup.
And I'm going to pass it along so

(03:10:51):
everybody can say hi.
Hey there, it's Jen from Idaho.
Oh, Dame Jen from Idaho.
I'm still trying to get that dangly balls
and double dicks donations going.
So ladies, come on, let's go.
Hi, this is Xenia, the German from Boise,
Idaho.
This is Mike from Donley in the morning.
Eric here just reminding everybody, donate, you douchebag.

(03:11:11):
Karen here wearing my Maha hat.
Maybe this time next week we'll have RFKJ
in.
This is Bruce from Star, and I want
to point out we are in Eagle, not
in Boise, but the greater Boise area.
People should come out and join us and
have some fun.
This is Megan from Boise.
This is Dave from Boise.
Bring in big balls.

(03:11:34):
A random, random number donation.
We had two meetups in Idaho.
That was Boise.
Here's a very busy meetup that took place
in North Idaho.
Hey, it's Sir Scott the Jew.
We're here with the North Idaho Sanity Brigade
at the Trails End Brewery in Coeur d
'Alene.
I tried to order dessert, but the waitress
had never heard of a stroopwafel.

(03:11:54):
In the morning, Danica here, Scott Smokinghouse, what?
Sir Ellie Fox here in the morning.
This is Sir Donald of the Fire Bottles.
That can tube's good.
Transistor's bad.
Sir Devo here, shapeshifting back between Montana and
Spokane and now Idaho.
It's Red the Gold Digger.
Can I be a cowgirl now that I
own cows?
This is Brian out of Spokane.

(03:12:17):
No, no, no.
I do my spooking in Spokane, but this
is Brian out of Post Falls.
This is Lacey from Post Falls.
I don't say nothing because I'm a doucher.
This is Spook of Spokane.
Wondering why I'm using crutches in the snow.
Oh, that must be due to climate change.
Dame Jen with a G here.
Instead of prescribing Ozempic, I think I'll just

(03:12:37):
refer people to TooManyEggs.com.
This is a dude named Jeff.
I'm Miss Roundy.
In the morning, this is Jason from Post
Falls, Idaho.
Thumbs up for the tip of the day
for the Ching Wong Tung's burn cream.
That worked amazing.
It saved my life.
I thought you guys were amazing.
You guys were all very, very friendly.
Everything went really well.
Got a little confused when you shouted something

(03:12:57):
about worms.
It was like everybody downstairs thought it might
be a little cult-like, but I think
it was okay.
I think it was good.
They're eating the ball of worms.
Now that's a meetup report with the server
in there talking about us being a cult
but still liking it.
Beautiful.
Very good, North Idaho.
We go to the February Club 33 barbecue
and Bitcoin in Fort Wayne.

(03:13:19):
Adam and John, this is Shannon helping co
-host in Fort Wayne.
We had barbecue and Bitcoin.
It was a hell of a turnout.
Dame Trinity having a great time in Fort
Wayne.
In the morning, John and Adam for PBR
Street Gang.
Hey, whatever happened to Zippy?
In the morning, I'm David, and I'm here
to tell you that if you ain't shigging,
you're either losing or lying.
This is Mike.
In the morning, I'm wondering what Elon's 30

(03:13:40):
-second ads are going to be doing on
the Super Bowl.
It should be interesting.
In the morning.
In the morning.
And finally from Snohomish, Washington, the Snohomo meetup.
In the morning, this is Jorge.
I'm here with a lovely group of people
for the second Snohomish No Agenda meetup.
I'm going to pass whatever.
We're going to pass the phone along.

(03:14:00):
Here we go.
In the morning, this is Savannah.
This is the official petition to get John
on Rogan.
Yeah, there we go.
In the morning, this is Sir Jack Ash,
the Narcissist Sasquatch here at the Club of
Fellow Sophisticates in the Snowtown Brewing, Snohomish, Washington.
Have you guys have a good time?
In the morning, this is Michelle with a
fabulous group.
This is Steve with my daily blurb, Elon

(03:14:22):
Musk.
This is the Lord of the Redtail Ranch,
Knight Emeritus, and I don't have my ring.
I've never ordered it.
I got to get with the program.
Daniel here.
I queried the GRAND database, and I can
confirm that this meetup is not USAID funded.
And that is it for our meetup reports.
There's a meetup happening on Thursday, the 13th,
the Outer Swamp meetup in New York.

(03:14:43):
No, New York time, six o'clock, Java
Nation.
That's in Rockland, Maryland, actually, kind of a
spookish place.
And also on Thursday, the Shrunken Amygdala Support
Group 2.0, seven o'clock at March
1st Brewing in Cincinnati, Ohio.
Many more to be found at noagendameetups.com.
Get it together, people.
You will love hanging out with your fellow

(03:15:04):
No Agenda Nation citizens and human resources.
Go to noagendameetups.com.
If you can't find one near you, start
one yourself.
It's so easy.

(03:15:32):
You've been knocking it out of the park
on the ISOs in the last few shows.
You've got some kind of trove you've been
pulling them from.
So I do have two.
I don't know if I'll make even a
dent in your ISO.
So I shall go first.
Here's the first one.

(03:15:53):
I kind of thought that was cute.
They're eating the ball of worms.
And then this one.
Wow.
Whoa.
That's not bad.
Yeah, I know.
I thought you'd like it.
I have two.
Okay.
I have a thanks.
Thanks, Elsa.
Thanks, awesome.
Is that what it was?

(03:16:14):
Well, then let's try this one.
Excellent.
Excellent.
I could listen to another hour.
I can never win from these.
Where are you getting these from?
These are so good.
Books on tape.
There.
And now, everybody, it's time for the moment
you've been waiting for.
John's tip of the day.

(03:16:34):
Just a tip with JCB.
And sometimes Adam.
Created by Dana Brunetti.
And I do want to remind everybody, you
can find these tips at tipoftheday.net, but
also on noagendafun.com, which has a lot
of our other staples.
I find noagendafun.com to be a more

(03:16:55):
complete list.
It's also, well, nothing against tipoftheday.net, but
noagendafun.com definitely has a lot of other
stuff.
Our books, the movies, the TV shows we
talk about.
It's just, it's fun.
It's noagendafun.com, but also tipoftheday.net.
And we are all excited.
I will say this.
What's missing from noagendafun.com is toomanyeggs.com.

(03:17:18):
Oh, no.
Plug.
Oh, that is just a travesty.
Yeah, I think so.
Okay.
So, yeah, I got another tip here.
This is an interesting one.
Another website called, the product is called Inpaint.
Inpaint?
Inpaint, like N-I-N-paint, but the

(03:17:40):
website's actually theinpaint.com, theinpaint.com.
And this gives you, you know, there's all
these, you know, this is probably the best
of all these artificial intelligence removal tools.
So you have a photo and you got
your ex-boyfriend, your ex-girlfriend in the
photo, you click on her, boom, she's gone.

(03:18:03):
How does that go again?
Theinpaint.com.
No, how does it go with the ex
-girlfriend?
Boom, she's gone.
I don't know if that's going to work.
It might not.
But because I've always wanted one of these
for a regular, just a computer, because they
have them on phones.
You know, you always take a picture of

(03:18:24):
your phone with a pixel, pixel six, a
pixel seven, whatever it is.
And you all look and you tap on
the person, poof, disappears.
Well, this is another version of that same
kind of technology.
And is it free?
Is it free?
Is it free?
It's free.
It's free.
How do they do it?
How do they do this with this AI?
It's all free.
It's amazing.

(03:18:46):
Yes, and expect it to disappear one of
these days completely.
That's right.
Everybody, there it is, your tip of the
day.
tipoftheday.net, noagendafund.com.

(03:19:06):
That's right, everybody.
There you go.
We are well on time to get ready
for the big game.
The big, big, big game.
We're so excited about the big game.
The big game will be played and I
will be rooting for the birds.
Go birds.
E-G-E-L-E-S-E.
Eagles.
Yes.
For those of you who do not want

(03:19:27):
to watch the Super Bowl, stick around because
coming up next on the stream, noagenda.stream,
trollroom.io if you want to troll or,
of course, your modern podcast app, we got
just two good old boys coming up next.
Two good old boys.
I think that's Sir Gene, one of the
two good old boys and some dude named
Ban.
And, of course, we have some very relevant

(03:19:48):
end of show mixes.
We've got David Kekta, always comes in with
something.
Danny Luce is back.
Good to have Danny.
Danny is, I'm glad he's back calming down.
He's a little worried about stuff in the
world.
And also some Chris, Sir Chris Wilson stuck
in there.
Coming to you from the heart of the
Texas Hill Country here in Fredericksburg in the

(03:20:10):
morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
Ban from northern Silicon Valley.
We're at Super Bowl Sunday.
The kickoff is at 3.30, they say,
but it won't be.
I guarantee it.
I'm John C.
Duvorak.
We return on Thursday with more media deconstruction
right here.
Remember us at noagenthedonation.com.
Until then, adios, mofos, hui hui, and such.

(03:20:55):
USAID wearing masks to protect themselves from musk.
This is a fearmonger.
Dictatorship.
Dictatorship.
We're not going to have apartheid in America
anymore.
That's what we think he is.

(03:21:16):
He has absolutely no right in shutting down
USAID.
We cannot allow that.
We've got to take to the streets.
First and foremost, f*** your musk.
Suppressive efforts to undermine federal agencies with the
help of Elon Musk.
His latest victim is the U.S. Agency
for International Development, or USAID.

(03:21:38):
This is the magic of Steve Jobs.
Well, these guys have literally- I'm telling
you, nobody wants to believe me when I
say this, but they've sold themselves out to
evil forces.
It creates this magic around them.
This has nothing you can do about it.
You mean white black magic?
Yeah, black magic.
That's why, in some cases, they have to
wear the black turtleneck.

(03:21:59):
They're always wearing black turtlenecks.
Yeah, it's part of the- part of
black turtleneck.
Yells above rules.
The same thing with Elizabeth Holmes.
Make you fat, feel wealthy, but you've got
to wear the turtleneck.
Otherwise, it doesn't work.

(03:22:32):
I've got a black magic Elon, he's trying
to get a hundo out of me.
Cervical cancer is back.
I made my son's get it immediately.
Because they don't know anything.
They do not have knowledge.
And who the hell does Musk think he
is?
There's the Nazi nipple, baby.

(03:22:52):
Not conscious.
I get it.
Not- no, no, no.
Not- just not conscious.
They don't know anything.
Really obvious why anyone would pay for Chad
GPT Plus at all.
Pretending to be outraged.
They make mistakes.
Oh, you want to use our money.

(03:23:13):
20 million on a new Sesame Street show
in Iran to combat disinformation in Kazakhstan.
We want humor.
We want humor.
That's the kind of thing that you should
get fired from a company, if they should
boot you out the door.
The reduction in the info jam is happening
with providers who are using Nabla.
Nabla is the AI software company.

(03:23:35):
We have to fight this in the Congress.
We have to fight this in the streets.
No, not this Nabla.
Nabla should boot you out the door.
You don't have thoughts.
You don't even know how these things fully
function.
Men ran it in the worst way.

(03:23:55):
I made my sons get it.
Hard times in America anymore.
They do not have knowledge.
Yes, I'm not sure how, baby.
The cervical cancer is back.
Alright, we've got to take to the streets.
The best podcast in the universe.

(03:24:16):
Adios, mofo.
Dvorak.org Slash N-A Excellent.
I could listen to another hour.

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