1751 - "Talking Toilet" - No Agenda Show

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Hey, I can't do Jack.
Adam Curry.
John C.
Dvorak.
It's Sunday, March 30th, 2025.
This is your Warner and Gitmo Nation Media
Assassination Episode 1751!
This is no agenda.
Feelin' faffy!
And broadcasting live from the heart of the
Texas Yulet Country here in FEMA Region Number
7 or 6.

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Good morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley where we're watching
Canada.
I'm John C.
Dvorak.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
In the morning!
So this morning, one of our church ladies
comes up to me and says, Adam, Adam,
I have a question for you.
What's that?
Why do you always say FEMA Region Number

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6?
And I realized there's a lot of people,
and I, for some reason, that was in
my head and I said FEMA Region Number
7 just a minute ago.
I don't know what I was thinking.
And I realized that goes back to the
Obama days.
Yeah?
Yeah, I had to explain it.
People don't know what we're talking about.
I think a lot of people don't know
what we're talking about.

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That's what I told her.
In general.
Most of the stuff, you probably don't realize
what we're talking about, exactly.
No, we just take stuff for granted.
We do take stuff for granted.
Hey, I had a dinner the other night.
I had a dinner.
Which was rather interesting, this dinner.
Well, I guess so.
You wouldn't have brought it up.
Well, you're always asking me after the show,
I am.

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Have you got any dinners coming up?
Yeah, it's so interesting.
It gets me out of the house.
We need some dinner stories.
This was a good dinner.
The international arms dealer was there.
Ah, yes.
He didn't really have anything new, although the
entire fleet of African C-130s is now

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being outfitted with glass cockpits.
But also there was the new CIO of
the Department of Energy, who used to be
on some kind of secret doge team.
At the dinner at your house?
No, it wasn't at our house.
It was at one of our friends'.
It was like a 20-people dinner.
We do these dinners.
Oh, it's a big dinner.

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It's a hill country get-together.
Oh, a gathering.
Yeah, and we'd never been to these people's
home before.
A nice house, big house, you know what
I mean?
Big house, yeah.
One of those hill country mansion houses.
And so the CIO, he shuttles between his

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home here and Washington, D.C. He comes
back for the weekends.
Now, I think he's taken a 300%
salary cut or something, but he's a patriot,
and that's why he's doing it.
And so he's now the CIO of the
Department of Energy, and he says, this place
is crazy.

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I said, what do they do at Department
of Energy?
He said, well, that's a good question.
Well, you know, the Department of Energy owns
Area 51.
You could have grilled them on that.
I didn't know that.
You should have prepped me.
I told you.
I mentioned it on the show before.
I completely forgot.
Because I visited Nellis in Vegas, and I
got on a tour of the place and

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got some training, and I got to sit
in on some training.
It wasn't for me.
Were you flying a saucer?
Yeah, hold on to this stick.
And the guy mentioned it.
He just has one of these curiosities.
You know, we've got nothing to do with
Area 51.
It's owned by the Department of Energy.
I always thought that was interesting.
Well, good, because now I have something to

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ask him next time we have a Hill
Country dinner.
Yes.
And I said, what do you guys do?
He said, well, that's a good question.
What do you do?
That's a good question.
Excellent question.
He was telling me about, you know, because
he has a badge.
He's got a badge.
And so he shows up with his badge.
And then he shows up with his badge.

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He's wearing a badge on his jacket?
What do you mean?
Well, that's what I said.
I said, I mean, well, your badge to
get into the building.
He has a badge.
He's got a badge.
To get into the house?
No, no, in the Department of Energy, you
fool.
Of course not.
Oh, so he's wearing one of those badges
around his neck or something?
Does he know that he's not in Washington
or what?
No, I'm saying when he goes there, he

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was relating a story to me.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I misunderstood.
Clearly.
So he has his badge, and he goes
to the front entrance, and he gets two
guys to escort him.
And he says, what is this about?
He said, oh, no, sir.
You with that badge, you're the equivalent of
a two-star admiral here, which sounds impressive.

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And so he goes on to tell me.
Is the badge on it?
No, no, no, no.
It's like a little picture, snapshot.
He says what they mainly do is they
run 12 labs.
Labs.
What do you mean, labs?
Well, all the labs.
What do these labs do?
Mainly military stuff.

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And it's very unclear what these 12 labs
do.
They do stuff that has to do with
energy.
They do stuff.
Stuff, stuff.
Yes.
He says mainly military.
And he says there was some – oh,
no, I forgot the name of it.
There was some organization, some council inside the
Department of Energy, which I guess is gone

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now.
And they were made up of military contracting
companies, and they could determine what stuff the
labs would work on.
This is a sweet deal these guys had
going on over there.
So he said, well, we got in one
week $380 million in savings.

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Just chop some stuff up.
He says, we'll see what happens in week
two.
It was unbelievable.
But the cool thing about it, that was
just one of the minor brushes with greatness
that I had.
So this home where we were at, I
had not met these people.
Well, yeah, I knew them from church.
By the way, these are all church people.
Oh, they're all churchies.

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Oh, they're all churchies.
Oh, yeah.
This is my people.
It's my spiritual family, John.
And so they moved from Houston, and it's
a nice house.
You walk up to the house, and the
house goes, you are now being recorded.
Hi, welcome.
What?
It does?
Yeah.
You walk up to the house.

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Actually, it's the other way around.
You're being recorded.
Welcome.
No.
Hi, you're being recorded.
So anyway.
They had cameras all over the place?
Oh, yeah.
I say, so, hey, man, what do you
do?
He says, oh, I sell data centers.
Oh.
Oh.
So who do you sell them to?
The hyperscalers.
Oh, I got some questions for you.

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And he gives a free email account, that
guy?
The hyperscalers are the AI companies.
That's really who the hyperscalers are.
So his company builds data centers to sell
them to all the AI companies.
And he was very open with me what's
going on and why it comes at the

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end.
So I say, hey, is it true?
Because I heard about it, and then CNBC,
they were saying it wasn't true.
Is Microsoft canceling contracts?
He says, oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Plenty of companies are canceling contracts.
Okay.
I said, well, what is the problem?
He said, well, there's a little bit of
a downturn in the expectation of what they'll

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actually need for AI data centers.
And he says, the biggest thing is now
that the training of the models, turns out,
might be a lot cheaper based upon the
deep seek.
See, all this got down.
Yeah, the Chinese.
That's what my son tells me.
The Chinese thing has changed the way people
are looking at this.
Well, it gets worse, or better, in my

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case.
So, you know, having your data center out
somewhere, like at the oil barons former ranch
that he sold for $15 million, it was
worth three just because he had a transformer
there, and there's no one around.
And I told him he'll be able to
buy that ranch back for pennies on the
dollar.
It's going to come true.
He says, the big problem is the training,

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it's fine.
You don't need to be anywhere.
You can just be out in the middle
of nowhere for training models.
But now that that seems to be slowing
down, or the expectations are much more limited,
he says, now people need inference.
Are you familiar with this term, inference?
Yeah, inference is a thing called an inference
engine.
Yeah, so that means when you need to

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query the system in real time, he says,
it's no good.
It can't have latency.
It can't be too far away.
You need huge data pipes.
And he says, you can't do that with
a Starlink satellite.
It was fine for training the data, but
now when you've got to ship that data
to end users, he says, they're all in
the wrong place.

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And I'm like, okay, so.
How much delay?
What amount of delay is acceptable?
Nothing.
I use these things.
If I have to wait five extra seconds,
I don't care.
Hey, are you going to argue with the
guy who's living in the big house from
this stuff, or are you going to argue
with me?
No, the guy with the big house always
wins.
Always wins.
Don't argue with me.
You're being recorded.

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He says, the good news is a lot
of Bitcoin miners are stepping up, and they're
taking over those data centers because we have
liquid cooling.
And so I'm like, man, do you care?
He says, I don't know.
Not really.
Why not?
Well, we got bought out by KKR and
BlackRock a while ago, so everybody already got
their money.
It doesn't matter.

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They can blow that up at any time.
They don't care.
We don't care.
Everybody got paid.
Nobody cares.
Have you seen my house?
Nobody cares.
Have you seen my house?
He says, nobody cares.
Nobody cares.
So I'm thinking, I'm thinking there's trouble on
the horizon.
I said, well, how about quantum?
He almost choked on his wine.

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Quantum.
Quantum.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
Well, anybody who's anybody knows what's what.
Yeah.
Well, and so, you know, you can take
that to DH Unplugged, maybe.
Give your fans over there some inside intel.

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Well, if it's not a stock pick, then
what's use?
Well, the hyperscale, the hyperscalers are a big
stock pick.
If not, they're bought by BlackRock and KKR.
No, but he's not the hyperscaler.
He sells to the hyperscalers.
Yeah, but is he a public company?
No.
No, but the point, no, you have to
understand.
The point is that when the picks and

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shovels aren't selling, that's the bottom of the
mine.
Everything up on top is falling apart.
Take it all the way up to the
top, up to Microsoft with their copilot.
Copilot.
How about Oracle?
Have you ever used it?
Oh, no, but Dave Jones has used it
because, you know, he works.
I've never used it.
Now that you mention it, it keeps cropping

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up.
I find it to be a nuisance.
Well, if you say, yeah, I'll try it,
then the first thing it tells me is,
all right, well, you've got to have your
OneDrive set up.
I'm like, okay, click close.
Yeah, this is classic Microsoft.
I'm not going to log in.
I am not going to log in.
No, Dave Jones works in an accountancy firm,

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CPAs, and he says, it never works.
Nothing works for anybody there.
They said, okay, copilot, draw me a pie
chart.
Okay, I'm done, and there's no pie chart.
There's nothing.
It's just nothing.
It just tells you it did it.
It drew it in its mind.
Well, that's a good bit.

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It drew it in my homework.
It drew it in its own imagination.
It's dumb.
Well, then, let me get this out of
the way since we got on this track
just about AI, because I think this warrants
a little bit of conversation.
I think this is a very interesting move.
Elon Musk just made an announcement on X
that XAI has acquired X in an all

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-stock transaction.
It values XAI at $80 billion and X
at $33 billion.
Keep in mind, Musk bought X, when it
was then Twitter, for $44 billion back in
2022.
For more, we turn to Bloomberg's Max Chafkin,
who covers all things Elon Musk for us.
So, Max, he suggests that the combined company
blends XAI's advanced AI capability and expertise with

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X's massive reach.
Are you surprised by this one?
Well, in some ways I'm surprised because we
have this late Friday news in which one
Elon Musk company is buying another Elon Musk
company, not totally clear how they came up
with the valuation.
In another sense, it's not surprising because these
two entities, XAI and X, have been kind

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of operating like one company.
So X, which is the name for Twitter
that Elon Musk gave it, has this chatbot
inside of it, Grok.
Grok was created by XAI.
XAI is training off of data from X.
I know it's a lot of X's there,
essentially all your social media data.
And it's also seemed like one of Musk's

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plans to make this Twitter acquisition pay off,
you know, he paid $44 billion and then
promptly lost a lot of the advertising, was
to kind of pivot to AI.
So you did sort of think, how is
he going to do this while having XAI
as a separate company?
And I think now we have the answer.
Well, it was poor reporting by Bloomberg.

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First of all, it was really $45 billion,
but they carry over $12 billion in debt.
This is a great way to keep everybody
hanging in there.
Hey, man, your $44 billion valuation just almost
doubled.
Congratulations.
Now you're a proud owner of XAI stock.
Nobody has any stock.
It's privately held.

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No, of course they have stock.
It's internal stock.
He has like 40 shareholders.
40?
I thought there was only 10.
No, no, it's a huge list.
Huge list.
That list is public.
This is the kind of creative accounting that
you run into.
This is, again, an example of Musk.

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He must have some superstar guy that knows
how to cook the books.
He doesn't have time to do this.
Someone else has to do this.
No, he doesn't have time to do anything,
but he found the guy.
The guy.
Hello, I'm the guy.
The guy who can do this and that.
He's a juggler.
Look at this.
Watch me act.

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Look at this.
Whoa.
It just turned into two balls.
Woo!
It's amazing.
It's amazing.
Magician.
So he found a magician, and he did
his magic, and there you have it.
But the best part of that report is
that XAI Grok is trained on X.
Oh, man, how can that be any good

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down the road?
It's just going to be slop.
I mean, it's also learning about those TikTok
nut jobs that you always bring clips from.
So it's learning all that stuff.
It's learning.
It could probably create a TikTok maniac.
This learning term.
I have one more clip.
This learning term is a very tricky term.

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It's not copying stuff.
No, no.
It's learning.
Open AI is urging the Trump administration to
loosen regulations on its industry, surrounding one of
the most controversial aspects, copyrighted material.
The tech giant submitted its proposal to the
federal government Thursday, pushing the need for speed

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in AI innovation and to remove guardrails against
tech companies, pointing to what it considers dangers
posed for AI coming out of Beijing.
China.
AI action plan.

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Stargate.
XAI, however, is currently in a legal and
PR battle with Elon Musk, who owns rival
AI startup XAI and is one of the
president's top advisers.
In its proposal, OpenAI expressed frustration with regulations

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that restrict large language models from learning from
copyrighted content and expanded fair use material to
train with, claiming it needs the freedom to
innovate in the national interest and a voluntary
partnership between the federal government and the private
sector instead of overly burdensome state laws.
This is truly the only danger of these

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types of people running around in our government.
It's our president.
He has no idea.
He trusts.
Oh, yeah.
It's great.
AI is going to run the world.
It's phenomenal.
It's just, what could go wrong?
And it's crap.
Microsoft is not a dumb company.
When they say, yeah, I think we're going
to chill out a little bit on this

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stuff.
It's the same thing they do with the
Internet, I might add.
Oh, of course.
Well, at least.
Well, yeah, you're right.
But then maybe Trump will say, I invented
AI like Al Gore.
It's just now OpenAI wants to broaden fair
use.
Oh, OK.
Well, that's great.

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Can I just play songs on the podcast?
Can I play songs on the podcast now
just to broaden up the the fair use
clause, which is the already kind of opened
interpretation?
It's like this is this is going nowhere.
There really is.
I know you keep saying that, but keeps

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chugging away.
Well, OK, let's let's just presume it's really
going somewhere.
It's really great.
Allow me to play a clip from our
new CDC director, Susan Menares.
A lot of people not happy with her.
No, this is this is this reminds me

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of the situation with the which I don't
have any clips.
I hear I hear chimes again, John.
I'm hearing chimes.
I just I'm kicking it because I got
my feet up on the desk.
I'm here.
Is it me?
Is it you?
Jesus is coming.
I hear chimes.
I can tell you that probably for you.
So I got my feet up on the
desk.
I'm lean back in the chase and and

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I got the chime thing is at the
at the foot of the of my feet.
It's right there so I can kick it
like this.
Yeah.
And it makes a ding.
But but I'm using a highly directional microphone.
You don't understand because we have a noise
gate.
If it was there in the background the
whole time, people wouldn't notice it that much.
But now whenever you talk, you just hear
these chimes in the background.

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That doesn't change my attitude about this.
I'm using a highly directional mic.
Chimes are at the back and a mile
away.
Well, you know, the fact that this mic
is picking it up.
It has to be a reflection.
You should be.
You should be using the Curry one microphone.
Oh, I'm sorry.
You can't buy it.
So, no, never mind.
It's coming.
It's coming.

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Yeah.
So we're going to go back to the
CDC director, Susan Monaris.
This is when she was over at DARPA
giving a little presentation.
What we can expect, I presume, from her
as director of the Center for Disease Control.
We think about advancing AI for health care
and a number of different facets.

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So some are direct to the patients.
What tools and what capabilities can we develop
to help them really understand where they are
in their health care journey?
Empower them to make great decisions.
We also think about AI from the provider
side.
How can we help providers better understand their

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patients?
What happened to doctors?
It's just providers.
It's just some.
That's because a lot of doctors have been
pushed aside for these nurses and these other.
There's a second one.
Yeah.
Injector, injectors, nurse practitioner.
There's another thing.
There's a provider.
It's just dudes named Ben who press a

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button on the AI.
I don't know anything.
Well, they know how to press the button
on the AI.
But can we help providers optimize their time
within the health system as they're seeing patients,
as they're trying to make complex decisions to
create the conditions for improved patient health outcomes,
improved patient health outcomes?
How about I don't die?

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Is that is that an outcome?
I can choose that option, please.
We also think about AI from the defensive
side.
So we understand that there is a great
vulnerable defensive side.
It's defensive side.
What?
What?
What?
What does that even mean?
Well, let's see if she explains it.
We also think about AI from the defensive
side.
So we understand that there is a great
vulnerability within the health ecosystem.

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More and more is coming online in the
Internet of Things that are going to have
an incredibly positive effect.
All she does is buzzwords.
The Internet of Things.
That's so.
Who hired this woman?
RFK Jr. Well, he's got his head up
his ass if he gave her a job.
But we also know it creates vulnerabilities.

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And so we're using that same AI technology
to help defend against those vulnerabilities, to anticipate
the negative implications that are happening within the
health systems.
Negative implications like you died.
And to try to stay ahead of it.
ARPA-H takes on the entirety of the
health ecosystem.
She's the buzzword machine.

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Yeah.
Internet of buzzwords.
She has said nothing.
No, it's the Internet of buzzwords.
She's perfect.
Try to stay ahead of it.
ARPA-H takes on the entirety of the
health ecosystem.
Entirety.
The entirety of it.
Biomedical research.
It's not just resilient systems.
It's not just investing in the tech of
the future.
It is all of those.
And what we do is we actually.
And more.

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It's all of those.
It gets better and better.
It is all of those.
And what we do is we actually go
out and we seat these incredible innovators.
We call them our program managers.
Program managers.
Now there's a new position.
They're incredible innovators, by the way.
Yes, the program managers.
Not just an innovator, but they're incredible innovators.
Incredible innovators.

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They're great.
We actually go out and we seat these
incredible innovators.
And they come to us and they say,
you know, here are the big problems that
we're seeing in the health ecosystem space.
The health ecosystem space.
The health ecosystem space.
The health, the HES.
Hold on a second.
What's the acronym for that?

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Health Ecosystem HES.
That's not good.
We will fund anything across the health ecosystem,
so long as it helps further our mission,
which is to improve health outcomes for everyone.
Oh, everybody, your health outcomes are going to
improve.
What a crock of crap that is.

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I knew you'd love it.
It's great.
It's great.
Hold on a second.
You played this as some sort of slam
against AI.
It's got nothing to do with any of
it.
Well, about the hype of it, it does.
She's yammering about nothing.
The problem is, these types of people believe
this stuff.

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I mean, look, Queen Ursula is already talking
about investing in quantum.
Oh, we need to have quantum systems.
It makes me laugh.
She's taking European money and blowing it away.
It's burning.
Yeah, that would be one way of doing
it.
I guarantee you that Susan Jomoke should be
talking about quantum soon.
I can guarantee it.
Put it in the red book.
Quantum.
I don't have to put it in the

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book.
You're right.
Right now, you're right.
And where's Larry Ellison?
He's Mr. Healthcare.
He should be talking about, oh, you know,
we have to be prepared for quantum.
He's almost died.
I mean, the guy's, you know, accident prone.
So he's, like, very health-oriented.
Oh, yeah, he crashed his plane and stuff,
doesn't he?
Oh, no, he's gotten in a surfing wreck,

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I think.
He's out in the oceans all the time.
He hasn't had issues.
Well, speaking of wrecks, and then I'll get
off the Elon stuff.
This report made me think of something that
I remember as a kid.
Now, the lithium ion batteries, like the ones
in EVs, are completely changing how fire departments

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are responding to these emergencies.
I talked to an expert who is traveling
all over the country training fire departments.
I think that this is probably one of
the, in the fire service career, you know,
decades, hundreds of years, this is probably the
most challenging time for the fire service in
history.
And it's still, and it has barely even,

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we've barely touched it at this point.
So while these batteries have more power and
they're lasting longer, the big concern is the
design of the car, and then if that
battery is damaged in a thing like a
crash.
These fires then end up burning faster and
hotter, as much as 2,000 degrees.
So firefighters are telling me that their top
priority is pulling people out of the car.

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Then it can take on average 5,000
gallons of water to put out one of
these car fires versus 500 gallons for non
-EV cars.
I asked Aurora Fire where you get that
kind of water.
Fire trucks typically carry 500 gallons, and if
you're not near a hydrant, let's say you're
in the middle of the highway or somewhere
rural, that could mean rotating out engines or

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bringing in portable water.
And if there's one thing firefighters hope you
take away from this is that a lot
of EV car doors are electric, and that
can go out during a fire, and then
you are stuck inside.
There's actually a manual way to open up
those car doors.
You just have to know where it is.
That information would be in your emergency guides.
Ask Mitch McConnell's sister.

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You know, that's the one thing about these
cars I don't quite understand, is why do
they have to make it so everything's electrified?
I mean, a mechanical door opener, it seems
more practical because if the electricity goes out,
you can't get out of the car.
Oh, yeah, there's some mechanism that nobody knows

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how to use.
I think it's pure cost.
I mean, what is the beauty of the
electric vehicle is that it has far, far
less moving parts.
You just slap together some plastic.
Yeah, moving parts do cost more, but how
much more does it cost?
Well, so that's the question.
A buck?
Five bucks?
Ten?
This is the question.
What is the cost of safety?
So now we all know, without a doubt,

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you crash your electric vehicle, you have a
chance that not only will your vehicle ignite
at 2,000 degrees, it can't be put
out easily, and they'll have to have the
jaws of life because you can't figure out
how to open up your door.
And it reminded me of this.
In the 1970s, Ford's Pinto had a major
defect.

(26:58):
The gas tank was prone to explode in
rear-end collisions.
What made this controversial wasn't just the flaw
itself, but Ford's internal cost-benefit analysis that
revealed that it would be cheaper to pay
off lawsuits than to fix the design, resulting
in an estimated number of 180 deaths.
Do you think they've done the cost-benefit
analysis of the battery igniting in electric vehicles?

(27:22):
I think all these car companies, all they
do is cost-benefit analysis.
I think, I don't know where you got
that old clip.
I had to go look for one.
Boy, I'll bet you did.
I had to search.
I had to search.
But, yeah, they do cost-benefit analysis on
everything.
That's probably why they don't have the mechanical
door opener.
Right.
Although it is kind of cool the thing
comes out and everyone thinks everything's cool, but

(27:43):
it's still dumb.
Yeah, well, it's not cool.
It's literally not cool if you're frying alive
inside, but that was such a big deal.
You should have one of those ping, you
know, you have these things.
Yeah, the hammer, the hammer ping.
The little bitty hammer with a piece of,
it's got a little tip on it that's
diamond.
With a razor blade to cut your seat

(28:06):
belt.
Diamond tip, yes.
It's true, it does that too.
Because that's not going to unlatch either, but
you're moving beyond the point.
How can, this was a huge deal in
the 70s.
This was a big deal.
My grandmother had a Pinto.
She's like, ugh.
It wasn't that they were blowing up left
and right, but it did happen.

(28:26):
But it was, as the clip just explained,
it was the fact that they said, well,
it's cheaper just to solve the lawsuits than
to fix the problem.
Yeah, I'm sure it is with these cars.
Now, the 50,000 gallon thing is what
bothers me.
5,000, not 50, 5,000.
5,000 as opposed to 500.
Yeah.
And it was a factor there of 10.
Yeah, 10.
So, is that if somebody, and I don't

(28:49):
understand why this can't be done chemically, because
it's a chemical reaction.
Flour.
I hear flour is a good way to
put out fires.
I don't think it's good on this.
There's got to be some chemistry that you
can employ that would put this fire out.
There has to be.
I don't think so.
These things are just, these are nuclear generators.

(29:11):
This is a lithium fire.
This is like sodium does the same thing.
Well, let's ask Grok.
I don't think Grok would know because I
don't think it's in the literature.
What chemical compound can extinguish a lithium-ion
battery fire?

(29:34):
Answer the question.
Go.
Well, nothing.
Oh, wait.
Best compounds to extinguish lithium-ion battery fires.
Lith-X, which is a graphite-based powder.
Lith-X?
Never heard of it.
Never heard of it.
I think Grok is making something up.

(29:56):
Hey, it's another X product.
Lith-X.
It's got X in it.
It must be something.
It must be.
Class D dry powder extinguishers, which often contain
sodium chloride or copper-based powders, fire-suppressant
gels, or tetrapotassium pyrophosphate.

(30:17):
Well, now you're talking.
Now it sounds like something that would do
something.
TKPP is what they call it.
Tetrapotassium pyrophosphate.
Hmm.
What not to use?
Water.
CO2 or halon.
Halon.
Definitely not halon.
Anyway.
Well, the problem with water is that it,

(30:38):
you know, like, for example, sodium, and they've
batteries, too, which are just explosive, is that
sodium, when it comes, when metallic sodium comes
in contact with water, it begins to form
hydrogen.
It breaks the water down into hydrogen and

(31:00):
oxygen, and then they catch on fire.
Yeah, it explodes.
Nice.
And that's what a lot of kids used
to do in certain colleges and high schools
when we had labs.
Certain colleges?
Well, labs.
Some jerk would grab a chunk of sodium,
if he could get a hold of it,
throw it down the toilet, and flush it.
Oh, like a Cherry Bomb Plus.

(31:20):
So somewhere down the line, the thing would
explode and blow up to the sewer.
Not a good idea.
No.
Anyway.
Another reason to keep kids away from chemistry.
Yeah, keep them away from chemistry, and don't
drive these battery cars.
They just don't seem like safe products.
I don't care what they tell me.

(31:42):
It's not a safe product.
Coming in over the transom this morning from
your gal with the manhands.
Is Welker the manhands lady?
Yeah, Welker.
Welker.
Welker the manhands.
President Trump called her personally this morning, called
her, and told her to tell America the

(32:04):
following.
Just hours ago, President Trump called me to
tell me he is, quote, pissed off with
Russia's President Putin, and threatened to impose secondary
tariffs on Russia's oil.
Quote, if Russia and I are unable to
make a deal on stopping the bloodshed in
Ukraine, and if I think it was Russia's
fault, which it might not be, but if

(32:24):
I think it was Russia's fault, I am
going to put secondary tariffs on all oil
coming out of Russia.
Mr. Trump said 25% tariffs on Russian
oil could happen any moment, and told me
he plans to speak with President Putin this
week.
The president told me, quote, I was very
angry, pissed off, when Putin started getting into
the- She likes saying that.

(32:46):
She likes saying it.
She likes saying it.
This is the only, because it's a quote,
she would never say it normally on TV
because she's not like a cussing Democrat in
essence.
She's a Democrat, but not a cusser.
No, no, no, no.
But now this gives her the excuse to
do it.
It's like shithole countries.
It's perfect.
I get to say pissed off.
The president told me, quote, I was very
angry, pissed off, when Putin started getting into

(33:06):
Zelensky's credibility and started talking about new leadership
in Ukraine.
Wait, but wait, there's more.
On Iran, the president said he's also considering
secondary tariffs if Iran doesn't agree to a
nuclear deal.
Quote, if they don't make a deal, there
will be bombing, and it will be bombing
the likes of which they have never seen
before.

(33:27):
Bomb them, bomb them, and bomb them again.
Woo, baby.
President, mad, mad.
He's mad.
Pissed off.
You know why?
He looks hungry, man.
He's lost a lot of weight.
Have you noticed this?
No, I have not.
Oh, he must have dropped 25 pounds at
least.
At least.

(33:47):
I wonder why.
Bobby.
Bobby is probably right.
Bobby is like, hey, Donald, Mr. President, you're
a fat slob.
This is not good.
The president sets the tone.
So everybody's cussing.
That's good.
Good work, Mr. President.
You got everyone cussing.
You got that part.
You got everyone cussing.
You got Welker is saying pissed off.

(34:09):
That's good.
That's good.
You got everyone shaking in their boots.
You're going to bomb the Iranians like they've
never been bombed before.
But you got to get America healthy again.
Aha.
You got to get America healthy again.
You've got to lose some weight.
You know, you might be right.
Because Trump, I think, is amenable to the
idea that he sets the moral tone.

(34:29):
And it's more than a moral tone.
I mean, it's a moral tone, basically.
But it's also the, you know, like JFK
is the one who initiated the five-mile
hike.
Everyone should go on a five-mile hike.
And everyone's going on five-mile hikes for
some reason.
Yes.

(34:50):
And the president looks happier for it.
His face looks good.
It looks, you know, he probably has much
less inflammation.
He looks good.
Yes.
His triglutarates or whatever, I'm sure they're all
down.
Triglutarate.
His numbers are down.
And America loves this president.

(35:11):
This is CNN.
He's basically more popular than he was at
any point in term number one.
And more popular than he was when he
won election back in November of 2024.
What are we talking about?
Isn't that favorable rating right now comes in
at minus four points?
Compare that to where he was when he
won in November of 2024 when he was
at minus seven points.
Or March of 2017 when he was at

(35:32):
minus ten points.
So when you compare Trump against himself, he's
actually closer to the apex than he is
to the bottom of the trough.
And of course, that's so important because Donald
Trump, historically speaking, has had his numbers underestimated.
This is great.
I love it.
He's closer to the apex.
This guy comes on CNN all the time
and he's jumping around and he's going nuts.

(35:52):
He's good.
He's closer to the apex than the bottom
of the trough.
Nice.
So here's an ABC report on the H
since we're talking about Bobby, the HHS cuts,
job cuts.
So I'll play this report.
And then after that, out of the horse's
mouth himself on the kid Cuomo show.
So listen to this report.
Tonight, the secretary of Health and Human Services,

(36:13):
Robert F.
Kennedy Jr., announcing a massive overhaul.
The agency that oversees America's health, supervises Medicare
and Medicaid and monitors food and drug safety.
It includes cutting 20000 people from the department,
a quarter of its workforce.
This will be a painful period for HHS
as we downsize from eighty two thousand full

(36:34):
time employees to around sixty two thousand.
I want to promise you now that we're
going to do more with less.
But experts, including Dr. Richard Besser, former.
Did you notice there was a little edit
there?
Director of Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
insists you can't cut that many jobs without
people in America, quote, suffering.
I worry that in this drive to cut

(36:58):
positions and save money, critical programs that impact
on people's lives are going to be cut
as well.
Kennedy also plans to consolidate.
Hold on a second.
The critical programs aren't the problem.
No, no.
But this is this is what is affecting
people's lives.
They're talking about 20000 people laid off.
This is a jobs program.

(37:19):
That's kind of what's in all this.
No, you're correct.
It's a form of welfare.
What the media has been doing, the M5
has been continuously getting people on who are
who are, if not outright saying it, insinuating
your Medicare is going to get cut.
Your Medicaid is going to get cut.
Your Social Security hit.
You might as well kiss your check.

(37:40):
Goodbye.
Trump's in town.
It's must scratch a Tesla.
Critical programs that impact on people's lives are
going to be cut as well.
Kennedy also plans to consolidate agencies within HHS.
We're going to eliminate an entire alphabet soup
of departments and agencies while preserving their core
functions by merging them into a new organization

(38:01):
called the Administration for a Healthy America or
AHA.
The FDA will lose 3500 employees and the
CDC will lose 2400.
That agency also narrowing its scope to focus
on preparing for and responding to epidemics and
outbreaks.
For decades, the agency has handled so much
more monitoring nationwide health trends, including chronic diseases,

(38:23):
firearm injuries and overdose deaths.
So this is all just negative spin, all
negative spin.
And they've even cut out the part where
he says the following on the Kid Cuomo
show.
We're not going to cut services.
We're not going to cut Medicaid.
We're not going to cut Medicare.
We're going to continue.
We're going to provide services, but more efficiently.
Thanks to Elon.

(38:44):
And by the way, what Elon did with
our agency is going to help our agency.
So I'm very grateful to him for me.
He came in for the first time with
a real org chart for the agency.
The agency org chart, when I arrived, was
incomprehensible.
There was no chain of command.
There were people operating in all these different
silos and fiefdoms.

(39:06):
And they were so territorial and so self
-serving.
They were selling patient information to each other.
So I tried to get to CMS patient
information, which belongs to the American people and
belongs to HHS.
And the sub-agencies said we have to
buy it from them.
And it doesn't make any sense.

(39:27):
There are sub-agencies that refuse to give
us patient data.
This is depersonalized data.
We need to make American healthy again.
What Elon is doing is he's using AI
to improve health, to improve efficiency, to improve
delivery.
He had a bunch of geniuses come over

(39:47):
to the department, create an org chart that
worked, and consolidate.
We have many divisions that are doing the
exact same thing.
We need to consolidate them and give them
a sense of mission.
To invite them to participate in making our
country healthier again.
And I think that's why we're getting a

(40:07):
very, very strong enthusiastic reaction from people within
the agency.
Yeah.
Well, so they didn't really tell you all
that.
You had to go to Newsmax to get
that information.
That wasn't Newsmax.
That was Newsnation.
Oh, I'm sorry.
It's right next to it on channel 735.

(40:29):
Yeah, it's a completely different operation.
Newsnation is done by the Chicago Tribune.
Newsmax is done by some right wingers.
But I think they still have the same
amount of viewership.
I'm just guessing.
Yeah, none.
Yeah.
So what I thought was a very interesting
piece, and it showed that it was good
because you really, I've been monitoring since Friday.

(40:51):
Not a single M5M, like an MSNBC, CNN,
or any of these outfits have used any
clips to say these guys, they suck, they're
no good.
And that was the executive DOJ team on
Brett Baier.
Did you have a chance to watch that?
That was dynamite.
I have a couple of short clips if
you want to hear some.

(41:12):
I'd love to.
I mean, I have to say that this
is another example of Musk's real talent.
Yeah.
Which is picking guys like this.
Yes.
He just had a bunch of heavy hitters.
He had like the co-founder of Airbnb,
a billionaire, you know, one guy's CFO for
five public companies or something.
All these, yeah, heavy hitters.

(41:33):
And they're all sitting there like, oh, yeah,
well, this is what we do.
And did you notice the milieu in so
far as at least two of them on
the group talked just like Musk?
Oh, yeah.
That fast patter and kind of this weird
milieu style that's peculiar to that group.

(41:58):
Well, I hear they all go out back
and smoke cigars from time to time.
I can't divulge where I heard that from,
but I believe that to be true.
I wouldn't be surprised.
Yeah.
Of course.
It's what you do.
Hey, boys.
Let's crack a Cohiba.
We routinely encounter wastes of a billion dollars
or more.
Casually.

(42:19):
You know, for example, like the simple survey
that was a 10 question survey that you
could do with SurveyMonkey cost about $10,000.
The government was being charged almost a billion
dollars for that.
For just a survey?
Yeah.
A billion dollars for a simple online survey.
Do you like the National Park?
And then there appears to be no feedback

(42:39):
loop for what will be done with that
survey.
So the survey would just go to nothing.
It was like insane.
Now, later in there, one of his lieutenants
said, well, it was 860 million, which I
thought was that's not quite a billion dollars.
So that was a little reckless.
Well, if you listen to him carefully, I
listen to that again.
Musk says almost.

(42:59):
Yeah, I know.
Yeah, I know.
Almost a billion.
That's almost a billion.
Almost a billion.
Well, that's a little over half a million.
By his calculations, I mean, the guy's worth
300 billion.
So it's like almost a billion, not quite.
Oh, I dropped a billion.
Whatever.
Who cares?
So here is the big social security fraud,
which rings very true.

(43:20):
The two improvements that we're trying to make
to social security are helping people that legitimately
get benefits, protect them from fraud that they
experience every day on a routine basis.
And also make the experience better.
And I'll give you one example.
This is one of those milieu guys.
This was the guy sitting next to her.

(43:40):
At social security, one of the first things
we learned is that they get phone calls
every day of people trying to change direct
deposit information.
So when you want to change your bank
account, you can call social security.
We learned 40% of the phone calls
that they get are from fraudsters.
40%?
That's right.
Almost half.
Yes, and they steal people's social security is

(44:02):
what happens.
They call in.
They claim to be a retiree.
And they convince the social security person on
the phone to change where the money is
flowing.
It actually goes to some fraudster.
This is happening all day, every day.
And then somebody doesn't receive their social security
is because of all the fraud loopholes in

(44:24):
the social security system.
Now, I want to believe this.
But I know that Tina just recently changed
her social security bank information.
And she could not make a phone call.
So maybe she hadn't tried it previously, of
course.
And she had to do it online.
And they said it would take two months,
which seems like a long time.

(44:45):
But if you indeed can call in, then
I'm sure that's probably true.
So let's go back to HH.
Yeah, we're getting fraudsters on the phone.
This is a situation that, you know, why
don't we get to the heart of this?
You can complain about this.
Oh, yeah.
These fraudsters are calling this way and that

(45:05):
way.
All these phone scams, whether they're fraudsters stealing
somebody's social security or they're trying to get
me to buy some dumb thing that doesn't
exist or get my bank account number.
I just don't get it why we can't
put a stop to this once and for
all.
Oh, I can tell you.
I know, I know.

(45:25):
This and that.
There's a system the way it's set up.
No, no, no.
You don't know.
You can jump all over me and say
I know, but you don't know.
You know nothing.
I know something.
Well, you know a little.
What I was going to say is what
will come out of Musk's mouth will be
there's no other way.
We all have to have a digital ID.

(45:46):
Oh, well, that doesn't surprise me you'd say
that.
Or at least an X account.
If everybody gets an X account, we'll make
sure that you'll never be defrauded again.
That's I don't see any other way to
do it.
You can clone phone numbers.
So that's easy online.
That's the problem right there.
That's the cloning phone numbers is easy.

(46:08):
You just said it.
Yeah, but that should not be the case.
You shouldn't have to have a digital ID.
You should be.
It should be impossible to clone phone numbers.
That's the kicker.
You're going to get a digital ID.
It's just it's not going to help.
No, but I have a digital ID and
there's some fraudster will call me up with
a phony digital ID or whatever.

(46:30):
Doesn't make any difference.
They're going to they're going to clone a
phone number they don't have.
The next thing you know, they're going to
be trying to scam me.
How about this?
You just have to show up in person
at your office and you get cash.
Nobody will do that.
I'm telling you, they got to do something.
The phone system at at writ large.
Let's use that term.

(46:50):
There you go.
Writ large.
The phone system itself is flawed.
Yeah, but so but the Internet's any better.
A web browser.
I'm working.
I'm worried about the phone right now.
OK, well, you don't you don't even use
a phone.
Well, that's beside the point.
OK, let's go to HHS.

(47:11):
Another example at NIH is today they have
27 different centers.
They got created over time by Congress and
they're typically by disease state or body system.
There's 700 different IT systems today at NIH.
700 different IT software systems.
They can't speak to each other.
So they don't talk to one.
They have 27 different CIOs.
And so when you think about making great

(47:31):
medical discoveries, you have to connect the data.
Time out.
Time out.
You see 27 different chief information officers.
Correct.
Correct.
And most of them are non-technical.
There's a lot there.
There's a lot of opportunity.
It will make science better, not worse.
All right.
They had similar complaints about the IRS.
Brad mentioned 27 CIOs.

(47:52):
If you had kept going with Brad, he'd
probably talk about the communications office.
You've got 40 distinct communications offices in HHS.
I love that.
Communications offices.
That's marketing departments.
That's wasteful.
40?
Yeah.
And that's not unusual, by the way, multiple

(48:13):
offices like that.
It's not making anyone healthy.
This is not about the employees.
There's many, many hardworking, well-meaning people who
took these jobs.
These jobs were out there.
They applied for them.
They took them.
They're doing what's there.
It's just that they're duplicating the effort of
40 offices.
So you've got that.
You've got overstaffing.
A good example of overstaffing would be the
IRS has got 1,400 people who are

(48:36):
dedicated to provisioning laptops and cell phones.
So if you join the IRS, you get
a laptop and a cell phone, you're provisioned.
So if each of those IRS officers or
employees provisioned two employees per day, you could
provision the entire IRS in a little more
than a month.
Yeah.

(48:58):
That's always great.
That's great.
And then this is one that I would
look at in my own company when we
had 700 employees.
This is an easy one.
And just the one that is in my
head right now, which is a fairly mundane
one, but I think is very illustrative, is
credit cards.
Oh, yeah.
There are in the federal government around 4
.6 million credit cards for around 2.3

(49:19):
to 2.4 million employees.
This doesn't make sense.
Right.
And so one of the things all the
teams have worked on is we've worked with
the agencies and said, do you need all
of these credit cards?
Are they being used?
Can you tell us physically where they are?
I hope they're getting frequent flyers.
Actually, on a different note, the rewards program

(49:40):
the federal government has is actually not very
good.
That's a whole other...
It's a negotiation.
Yeah, exactly.
But so far, the teams have worked together,
and they've reduced it from 4.6 million
to 4.3 million.
So we're taking it easy.
But clearly, there should not be more credit
cards than there are people.

(50:01):
Oh, man.
Think New Ideas, that was the company I
mentioned with 700 people.
We had one guy with one credit card
doing all the travel.
And we started noticing that his wife had
nice jewelry, and they had all kinds of

(50:21):
cool gadgets at home, brand new vacuum cleaners.
And turns out, he was taking all of
the rewards points and cashing them in for
himself.
It was a classic.
Oh, yeah.
I think that happens everywhere.
I bet it's happening in government.
They're guffawing about the rewards program.
I'll bet you there's lots of people like,
oops, oh, boy, I was taking those points,

(50:44):
getting free flights everywhere.
That's what you do.
I think that's what you would do.
If you had the opportunity, you have this
card, you're centralized something or others, or you're
doing a lot of charging and reward points
are building up, not for the company, but
for you personally.
For you, yes.
Yeah.
What would you do?
What would anyone do?
And here's my final pitch for digital ID.

(51:06):
The minute you pop out of the womb,
people.
The ways that the government has defrauded is
that the computer systems don't talk to each
other.
So if the computer systems don't talk to
each other, then you can exploit that gap.
And fraudsters exploit that gap to take advantage.
For example, there were over $300 million of
small business administration loans that has been given

(51:27):
out to people under the age of 11.
Well, actually, to add to this, $300 million
under the age of 11 and over $300
million to over the age of 120.
Definitely.
Small business loans, correct.
Yes.
The oldest American is 114.
So it's safe to say if their age
is 115 or above, they're fake.

(51:47):
Or they should be in the Guinness Book
of World Records.
And we should not be giving out loans
to babies.
So the youngest recipient of a small business
administration loan is a nine-month-old, which
is a very, very precious baby we're talking
about here.
So obviously, it was just fraudulent.
And they do terrible things.

(52:08):
They actually will see that a kid's been
born.
They will steal that kid's social security number
and then take out a loan and leave
that kid with a bad credit rating.
There was literally a baby.
The terrible things are being done is what
we're saying.
I'm telling you.
It's either that or a tattooed barcode.
They got to come up with some ideas
here.
It's not going to fly.

(52:31):
Barcodes.
Yeah.
And then this will be the final one.
Because, of course, what Elon is doing is
he's destroying the government.
He's destroying everything.
He's going to take away your social security,
President Elon.
Let's go protest at that Tesla store.
People are organizing protests across the country against

(52:52):
Elon Musk's role in the federal government.
Several protests took place today in the suburbs
and in Chicago.
WGN's Angelica Sanchez reports on today's demonstration near
the mag mile.
Get your Tesla off the road.
Elon Musk is set to go.
Outside the Tesla showroom on Chicago's Rush Street.

(53:13):
I'm really upset about what's going on with
the government and Elon Musk's hand in it.
Protesters urge Tesla vehicle and stock owners to
sell.
Sell your car.
I'm very concerned that someone who was not
elected to the federal government has this much
power.
I think it's important that we all show
up and say something.

(53:33):
Saturday marks a global day of action in
the Tesla takedown movement with demonstrations planned outside
Tesla dealerships across the country against Elon Musk
and his role in the Department of Government
Efficiency.
Seven of those demonstrations are Chicagoland locations.
He does not speak for Congress.
And yet it seems like institutions and the

(53:54):
administration more broadly are acquiescing to these demands.
Fans of Musk are vowing to counter protest
the movement and some showed up to defend
the billionaire in some cities.
Musk is pushing to improve the image of
Doge.
In a Thursday interview with Fox News, he
stated he is being careful and compassionate with
this overhaul of the federal government.

(54:15):
Even as criticism has been mounting over his
previous posts on X and emails demanding information
from federal workers.
So at 12 noon, many of these protests
just stopped.
Just stopped.
The people left.
Why, you ask?
Why?

(54:35):
Because they were hired.
They were only there for four hours.
There was no overtime.
No overtime.
No overtime.
And I have a copy here of the
chant sheet.
I shall give you a few of the
chants that the Indivisible Organization handed out to
everybody.
Elon Musk, go to Mars.
We don't want your swastikas.

(54:57):
Elon Musk is unelected.
Democracy must be protected.
The people united will never be defeated.
That doesn't even rhyme.
What is that?
That's a bad one.
That's no good.
Hey, hey.
Ho, ho.
President Musk has got to go.
Or we will not cooperate with your techno

(55:18):
-fascist state.
And two more.
Public workers work for us.
Can't say that for Elon Musk.
And my favorite.
Democrats, grow a spine.
Now is the time to draw the line.
What I find fascinating is, almost walking distance

(55:41):
from my house here, is one of the
regional Tesla repair centers.
And on the streets, there's probably 50 Teslas
all around, just surrounding that.
There's no protests around here.
Nobody in Berkeley, which is loaded with Teslas,
is getting their cars swastikas or anything.

(56:03):
There's nobody in California, at least northern California.
Nobody's...
This isn't happening.
Well, have you ever heard the term, don't
piss in your own nest?
They're all going out of state.
Apparently.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, it's just political...
It's pathetic political theater, is all that it

(56:24):
is.
And then you got Chuck Schumer yelling like,
we're going to drag President Trump's ratings down.
Oh, wow.
Schumer.
Schumer.
Wow.
Wow.
That guy got lucky with the Myanmar earthquake,
which sucked up all the news.
Yeah, you got to wonder if that was
the earthquake machine.

(56:44):
You know, I hate to say it.
Yes.
That's the first thing I thought.
Me too, because that was a doozy, man.
Because I've been to Bangkok, and I've been
to, well, right underneath Myanmar, which they used
to call Burma.
Yeah, but that's 600 miles away.
I know.

(57:04):
That's a massive distance.
And you see the rooftop pool.
Yeah.
Where all the water's coming off the side.
And by the time it hits the street,
they had a, there's one video floating around
where, because people were talking about it over
dinner, about, well, you know, water coming down,
it's just like rain.
But no.
No way.
It hits the street like a monsoon.

(57:26):
It's not like a monsoon.
It's like a tidal wave.
It just whacks the street and just wipes
everybody out.
Have you seen the video from atop that
pool?
Yeah, with sloshing around.
And the floating stuff is going over the
side.
I thought, because I saw that video on
X, and I'm like, oh, man, is someone
going to get sloshed right over?

(57:46):
I mean, sad, but that would have been
awesome.
What do you mean by awesome?
But, I mean, and those apartment buildings that
were under construction coming straight down, almost like
the Twin Towers.
It's interesting.
It kind of reminded me of that.
It literally collapsed unto itself.
But that is a, now, is that a
known fault line from Burma down to Bangkok?

(58:08):
I'd never heard of that.
I don't know what that, it hasn't been
explained yet, but I do have a couple
of clips.
I'll catch up to it.
All right.
This is BBC, of course, and you might
as well use your voice.
And now time for the BBC World Service.
Yeah, this is an earthquake story.
Okay, from the BBC World Service.
Oh, by the way, this is the only
good news.
This is funny because they were just tons

(58:31):
of material on this earthquake.
But this was the kind of the good
news story I thought was cute.
Oh, nice.
And now, good news from BBC World Service.
The death toll from the earthquake in Myanmar
is already up to 1,600 people.
This is your good news?
It becomes good news.
It gets better, okay.
And that number is expected to rise quite

(58:54):
sharply, probably, as more information comes out.
It is hard to get a clear picture
of what's happening in the worst-hit areas,
and there are a number of reasons for
that.
There is a civil war.
Communications are, for the large part, down.
Occasionally, as you'll hear, we do get some
voice notes out.
The ability of journalists to do their job
is also an issue.

(59:15):
Oh, no.
Reporters Without Borders says reporters there face the
risk of torture, arrest, or murder.
So, obviously, very cautious in what they say.
Mandalay is the hardest-hit city in Myanmar.
And in neighboring Thailand, 11 people are known
to have died, and at least 50 construction
workers are still missing.
That's because they were actually working on a

(59:36):
building, so it wasn't secure.
So far, great news.
I'm very happy with this.
Hey, just play the clip.
Collapsed.
But there was some good news, and this
is a remarkable bit of tape.
What a way to start a life.
A Thai woman went into labor just as
the earthquake hit, and both she and the
baby survived.
She described what happened.

(59:57):
Luckily, I was on the fifth floor.
The medical staff were holding both my arms
as we made our way down the stairs.
The doctor kept saying, it's all right.
The hospital staff did very well in evacuating
us.
They did their best.
I was telling my baby, don't come yet.
But the pain kept growing and growing.
Then I was put on a hospital bed

(01:00:18):
and was surrounded by a lot of medical
staff, where I just gave birth right there
and then.
It was all a shock to me, too.
Once my baby was born, the ground stopped
shaking.
I felt great.
I saw my child, and the earthquake stopped.

(01:00:40):
Wow.
That is great.
Thank you, BBC World Service.
That's phenomenal.
That's what we call human interest.
That's what we call it.
That was a good story.
It was the baby that caused the earthquake.
That's the way you have to conclude.
I got it.
Once the baby was there, the earthquake stopped.
Perfect.
Boom.
Done.
So here's part two.
Lucky baby.
Happy mom.
Well, the first emergency response teams have arrived

(01:01:03):
in Myanmar now, and the U.S. military
has arrived in Myanmar.
The U.N. is trying to coordinate much
of that effort.
Tom Andrews is the U.N. special rapporteur
on the human rights situation in Myanmar.
He's actually currently in Bangkok.
Having just got back from the Thai-Myanmar
border, there he met people from the National
Unity Government in Exile.

(01:01:23):
That's the group that was set up after
the coup in 2021, trying to replace the
military regime.
So on the basis of what he heard
down on the border, he gave me the
latest information on what's happening.
The U.N. has operations on the ground.
Pledges are coming in.
The United Nations has a relief fund operation
right now that's in place.

(01:01:44):
The ASEAN network of ASEAN countries are making
an appeal and putting its emergency operations into
play.
There are various operations that are in place
and that are trying to gear up as
quickly as possible.
The question is, will that aid be able
to get where it needs to go?
Will the military junta put up blockades of

(01:02:06):
it going to areas that it just doesn't
want it to go, those opposition areas, resistance
areas?
We know that every crisis that we've seen,
every natural disaster that we've seen in recent
years, they have blocked aid.
They've created very significant problems in getting aid
and assistance to where it needs to go.
I am hoping that that will not be

(01:02:26):
the case.
But my assumption is that it will be.
Oh, man.
Get back to lucky, baby, happy mom.
That's the end of it.
I don't have any...
That's a...
I think I have an earthquake story.
Lucky, baby, happy mom.
Love you long time.
Um, let me see.
Yes, I do have a France 24 clip

(01:02:49):
which explains a little bit more about the
aid.
This was the moment a skyscraper under construction
came tumbling down in Bangkok.
Dozens are thought to be trapped under the
rubble.
The 7.7 magnitude quake toppled a crane
from the top of the building which collapsed
in seconds.

(01:03:10):
In these pictures, water from a rooftop swimming
pool can be seen cascading over the side
of a high rise.
The tremor sent office workers pouring into the
streets in search of safety.
The earthquake's epicentre was near Myanmar's second city,
Mandalay, not long after it was followed by
a 6.4 magnitude aftershock.
In Myanmar, where the extent of the damage

(01:03:31):
is starting to emerge, a state of emergency
has been declared and the country's military rulers
have made a rare appeal for aid.
Lines of injured people were filmed waiting for
hospital treatment...
Hold on a second.
I think ABC had the aid clip.
Hold on.
A day after that destructive 7.7 magnitude
earthquake rocked Southeast Asia, rescuers working around the

(01:03:52):
clock to search for survivors still buried under
the rubble.
In Bangkok, this 34-storey building that was
still under construction collapsing, sending people running for
their lives.
There was a lot of screaming and panicking
which obviously made it a lot worse.
Jack Brown's dash cam video capturing the moment.
And it was just horrifying to see that

(01:04:13):
destruction.
Drone footage shows the scope of the damage.
Garrett Breer from Washington state was in a
nearby mall with his wife when they witnessed
the moment it crumbled.
Immediately we were just covered with dust and
debris and we couldn't see.
And there were thousands of people just in
panic running away from the building.
The epicenter of the quake was in Mandalay,

(01:04:33):
Myanmar, more than 600 miles from Bangkok.
Buildings collapsed.
Roads torn apart.
A media host in the war-torn country
describing it as one of the strongest earthquakes
in his lifetime.
It's getting stronger and intense.
So I got a realization, oh, the earthquake
is really happening right now in Myanmar.
Footage aired by Myanmar's state-run broadcaster shows

(01:04:55):
the destruction of the historic Mandalay Palace in
the country's second largest city.
The situation in Mandalay is really bad right
now.
The clock tower near Mandalay Monastery collapsed and
was damaged.
Rescue teams from China arriving to assist with
search and rescue operations.
India and Russia have also sent resources.

(01:05:15):
President Trump has vowed to send aid.
There you go.
So what's the BBC guy talking about?
There's aid.
There's aid coming.
It's not getting in.
I think the BBC's got this correct.
You know, the funny thing about that 600
miles?
Yeah.
It says there's only 450 miles to L
.A. from here.

(01:05:37):
Most of the quakes in California, typically...
Yeah, you don't feel them, though, do you?
No, never.
Never.
That's what I was going to get to.
But it wasn't a 7.4, whatever that
is, by the way.
We've had big quakes, not necessarily that big
recently, but there's been quakes, I think the
big one in San Francisco was 8.6
or something along those lines.

(01:05:58):
But, of course, these numbers don't mean anything
anymore, as you know.
No, no.
We don't know if it's Richter scale to
the momentum scale.
Now it's bull crap.
But the point is that, generally speaking, in
California, where there's a lot of quakes, and
most of the world, you have maybe a
90-mile distance where you can still feel

(01:06:19):
the quake.
It doesn't have the effect that it does
where it took place, the epicenter, as they
like to call it.
But you can still feel it, and sometimes
it can cause damage.
90 to 100 miles away.
600 miles away is unfathomable.
That's crazy.
It doesn't make any...
I mean, it's like from...
It means the entire state of California, maybe

(01:06:40):
if an L.A. quake took place, and
half of Mexico would be affected.
That's why I was asking if there's a
known fault line there.
I don't know of one.
Well, that whole area looks like it's been
affected by a lot of quakes.
That's why it's all scattered, like some mass,
if you look at it on the map.

(01:07:01):
Somewhere there's a pot pong, ping pong ball
joke in there, but I can't quite come
up with it.
What?
Well, you've been to pot pong.
Pot pong?
Pot pong.
No, I've not been to pot pong.
You've been to Bangkok.
No, I've not been to Thailand.
I've been to Vietnam.
Oh.
Oh, pot pong.

(01:07:23):
Pot pong in Thailand is where there's a
club, and there's tricks.
There's tricks that women do with ping pong
balls and lit cigarettes.
Target practice part of it?
Yeah, target practice.
And smoke rings.
And smoke rings, yes.
I did a documentary there once.

(01:07:44):
This is like the donkey act in Tijuana.
We've actually talked about this on the show
before many, many years ago.
Yes, I remember you doing something.
You were aghast.
Yes, I was aghast.
Is it not pot pong?
Pot pong.
I think it was pot pong.
It's a circus act.
Go to Turkey.
Pew, pew.

(01:08:05):
I'm going to get my Turkey updated.
I'm going to get back to BBC and
do some international stuff.
Because this is going on.
This Turkey thing is non-trivial.
And here's what I want you to listen
for.
The people are – they threw this guy
in jail.
This is a political – this is what
they try to do to Trump.
And the people are protesting the end of

(01:08:25):
democracy because they put the guy in jail.
When Trump – when they tried to put
Trump in jail, I didn't see anybody protesting
the threat to democracy.
They only called Trump the threat to democracy.
It's like reverse.
Well, it's because the people weren't pissed off
enough here.
We have it too good.
Turkey – I mean, the lira is not

(01:08:48):
worth the paper it's printed on almost.
I mean, there's real economic repercussions.
Erdogan's big mistake was his economic policies.
Whoopsie.
Hundreds of thousands of Turkish pro-democracy protesters
gathered in Istanbul today in support of the
city's jailed mayor, Ekrem İmamoğlu.

(01:09:09):
The rally was called by Turkey's main opposition
party, the CHP, and that's the party that's
nominated Mr. İmamoğlu as its presidential candidate.
Well, the BBC's senior international correspondent, Paula Gerin,
was at the protest today.
So, what was it like?
It was quite a festive atmosphere.
There were a lot of people of all

(01:09:30):
different ages.
We saw family groups, some people with young
children, children still in prams.
We saw some older people who were moving
with some difficulty.
One or two people had even brought a
family dog.
There were lots of people who were carrying
posters of the jailed mayor.
And this was a daylight rally in a

(01:09:51):
bright, sunny day.
So, quite a different atmosphere to the rallies
earlier this week, the nighttime rallies that we
reported on on Monday and Tuesday.
But the demands were very much the same.
People told us they were coming to demand
the release of the mayor.
They said they would keep protesting until that
happens.
Well, that could be a very long time.

(01:10:12):
In reality, he could be in jail for
several years.
Many said that they had come to defend
freedom of speech, human rights.
One young man who was there with his
brother told us that he had come to
defend democracy before it was too late.
He said, if we stand by and don't
act, then we will lose everything.
And there was a consistent message again from

(01:10:34):
the opposition leader saying that, accusing the government
of trying to intimidate the young people.
He spoke of the large numbers of young
people who had been arrested at the demonstrations.
He said this was an attempt to try
and silence them, to create fear.
But he said it wouldn't work.
Now, two questions.

(01:10:55):
Maybe they're in your next two clips.
One, does the BBC pronounce Turkey as Turkey,
eh?
No, they don't.
You've pointed this out before.
And the other one, do we actually know
if the accusations against this guy are true?
Nobody goes into it.
Why not?
It's just accusations.
And it's like, well, OK, what did he

(01:11:17):
do?
It seems unlikely to be true.
Yeah.
All right.
Protests have been going on for 10 days
now, ever since Mr. Imamoglu's arrest.
And they've been met with a repressive government
response that's been sharply condemned by rights groups.
Our senior international correspondent, Orla Gerin, is in
Istanbul for us.
It was certainly a massive demonstration.

(01:11:39):
And you got that sense when you arrived
because it took us a very long time
to enter the plaza where the rally was
being held because there were simply so many
people trying to get through the entrances.
And worth pointing out, I saw something today
I have not seen before at a demonstration.
There was a long line of what appeared

(01:12:00):
to us to be closed-circuit TV cameras.
And these were trained on every entrance.
So it seemed to us as if the
faces of all of those who were coming
through to attend the protest were actually being
recorded by the authorities, presumably for use in
the future to identify people who've been at
the demonstrations.

(01:12:20):
The demands were very consistent.
The same kind of message we heard earlier
during the week on Monday and Tuesday at
the large nighttime demonstrations.
People were calling for the freeing of the
mayor, saying they would keep protesting as long
as it would take to get him out
of jail.
Now, that could mean a very long fight.
The reality is he could be in prison

(01:12:40):
for several years.
People were demanding freedom of expression.
People were demanding protection for human rights.
One young man said to us, look, I've
come to try to defend democracy here before
it's just too late.
This is filler.
So they have this, the idea of having
all these cameras makes sense.

(01:13:03):
You have to take, the key to success
here is you have to paste on a
couple of fake eyeballs on your forehead.
That's the key to success.
Also for job interviews, I'm told.
It's very, it's the key to success.
Some fake, you can do stuff to your
face that would be, that would confuse the

(01:13:24):
AI system.
The BBC is giving us nothing.
They're just doing color commentary.
There's no depth to this reporting.
That's a good point.
Here's the last of it.
You mentioned there were CCTV cameras there.
And as we know, the Turkish authority have
already been cracking down on protesters and journalists

(01:13:45):
in recent days.
Can you give us an update on that?
Oh, they're talking about themselves.
Oh, OK.
Yes, it's very dangerous for us.
We can't go into Bangkok.
It's very into Myanmar.
It's very dangerous.
We can't do it.
It's dangerous.
We're in Turkey.
Turkeyye.
It's so dangerous.
They never say Turkeyye.
Let's get this straight.
Well, there's certainly a great deal of fear.

(01:14:06):
And we heard that from demonstrators today.
Several people said they were afraid of being
arrested.
Some told us they had friends who had
been picked up in these dawn raids that
have been going on over the last 10
days.
The official figure from the Interior Ministry now
is that 1,900 people have been detained
just in the past 10 days.

(01:14:26):
We know that among those there are seven
journalists.
And we've had the first indictment handed down
by public prosecutors here against some of those
who were arrested.
And all of these people arrested at the
protests.
And the prosecutor is asking for jail terms
of between six months and three years.
Now, press freedom groups and media organizations here

(01:14:48):
are pointing out that among the journalists arrested
were people who were simply doing their job.
There were photographers who were taking photographs that
have been seen around the world and become
famous around the world.
And human rights organizations are saying that the
legitimate right to freedom of expression to gather
peacefully to protest against the government's policies.

(01:15:09):
There is a major attempt here now, they
say, to stifle those rights and those freedoms.
And it didn't begin 10 days ago with
the arrest of Ekrem Imamoglu.
It has certainly been a pattern that we've
observed here over many years now.
More nothing.
This is a regime change.
I suspect that we were behind it.
Oh, OK.

(01:15:29):
That would make sense because I've been I've
had my quad view on 24-7.
And there's not there's not even a story
that we're not even running a story about
this.
They're still talking Signal Gate.
I know they are.
I know you're right.
There has not been one single story on
American media about this.

(01:15:50):
And this has been going on for 10
days and is major.
Yeah.
And it's a NATO member, I might point
out.
It's not just some fly by night operation.
Right.
It's a NATO member.
Also responsible for the mess in Syria.
Yeah, this is this is they're out to
get this guy.
And where's the where's the Gulen movement?
Are they are we know their leader died,

(01:16:11):
but they didn't just dissolve.
I mean, did anything happen with them?
No, no reporting on no reporting.
Well, meanwhile, that's the M5M.
Now, the T5M, which is so M5M is
mainstream media.
T5M is the truth stream media.
Very annoyed that come up.

(01:16:32):
I just made it up.
Very annoyed this weekend because at least 15
people are saying there's something here.
This is going on.
You got to check this out.
So what I'm going to tell you, even
Tina's like, oh, there's some going on with
house and habit.
What house inhabit house?

(01:16:53):
You don't know who a house inhabit is.
House inhabit, not in a inhabit, but inhabit,
like inhabit a house, house, inhabit, house, inhabit,
house, inhabit.
This was a mommy blogger who who became
very successful as a.
So we have.
So this is about a mommy blogger.
It gets worse.

(01:17:13):
Because how can it get worse?
And Tina would often she reads, you know,
stuff like conservative treehouse and house inhabit.
I don't know any of this.
Well, that's I never heard of conservative treehouse.
That's why there's two of us.
Oh, you don't know Sundance from from conservative
treehouse.
No, I don't know Sundance either.
Well, I do.

(01:17:34):
And I'm listening to the BBC World Service.
And now we switch over to mommy blogger
house inhabit on the BBC World Service.
But this is Tina's beat, because I can't.
By the way, that's by the way, I
should compliment you.
That does sound great.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I know you've heard of custom programmed.

(01:17:57):
It sounds like an old shortwave radio announcer.
Well, I used to when I was growing
up, my my parents, they would have one
of those alarm clock radios.
And and so my dad would have this
thing at volume 10 because my parents could
never get up.
Because I had to be at the bus
stop at ten past seven to take the

(01:18:19):
bus to then get on my hidden bike
to go to school.
Oh, yes, it was rough.
And that thing would go on and it's
seven o'clock.
And it's just blasting the news.
So it's a trauma from my youth.
Yes.
Anyway, so.
So now I have to go watch 20

(01:18:41):
minutes of Ian Carroll.
Now, you know who that is?
No.
Yeah, you do.
He's the guy on X with the long
hair, with a hoodie.
And he's always talking like, I don't know.
He's always got the green screen behind him.
I like these guys.
They all have style.
Looks suspicious.
And then so he goes on for 20
minutes talking about Candace Owens.

(01:19:02):
Oh, Candace Owens, Candace Owens.
OK, so then I have to go watch
Candace Owens for an hour.
And it's and I'm like, what is going
on here?
Basically, they keep talking about a blackmail scandal,
a blackmail scandal.
And that House Inhabit, the mommy blogger, has
teamed up with that horrible woman from, was
it New Yorker magazine, who supposedly had a

(01:19:24):
sexting scandal with RFK.
And now, well, the Maha movement is under
threat and RFK can't do anything because he's
being blackmailed, blackmailed, blackmailed.
And who is he being blackmailed by?
Come on, John, you know the answer.
Answer the question.
Go.
Soros.
Israel.
No, of course it's Israel.

(01:19:44):
Oh, Israel.
OK, not Soros.
Yes, it's Israel.
That makes nothing but sense on the surface.
And, you know, he's always been a Zionist
and he's always been.
The Kennedys.
Yeah, the Kennedys, big Zionist.
And he's always been in for Rabbi Shmuley.
And I'm just saying, you know.

(01:20:07):
And that's what people are concerned with here
in America.
Rabbi Shmuley?
Long story, brother.
Long story.
Yes, because you know that that's why they
don't release the Epstein files is because then
we find out that the entire U.S.
government is being blackmailed by the Mossad.
Hello, where you been?

(01:20:28):
That makes nothing but sense.
You need to read the Mommy Blogger.
You've got to understand these things.
I've been listening to the BBC.
But I think there has been a concerted
effort.
And, you know, to me it's all spiritual.
There's dark forces.
There's good and evil.
Yeah, okay.
I'm just telling you.
Huh?
Look.
Skip ahead.

(01:20:49):
We know there's dark forces.
Don't do that to me.
Well, you told me I could.
What do you do?
Now you tell me I can't?
No, but you skip ahead is just rude.
Skip ahead is rude.
You told me I could.
I didn't tell you you could go off
camera.
You did.
Off camera?
Where's the camera?
Off camera.
You said I could do that.

(01:21:10):
Now you're calling me out.
No.
Scammer.
You can call me out.
You did that on purpose to give me
grief.
No, you can call me.
Okay, Kara, but go ahead.
You can call me out, but you can't
just say skip ahead.
That's not nice.
I think skip ahead's pretty cool.
And I think you'll agree with me on

(01:21:32):
this.
I believe there is a concerted effort to
go after influencers, podcasters, mommy bloggers, et cetera,
to make them very fearful to be called
out as a Zionist, a Jew lover, whatever.

(01:21:52):
They call you that all the time.
I don't see you.
You're not shaking in your boots.
But that's because we don't rely on clicks.
We don't rely on views.
We rely on people who care about what
we're talking about.
This is a modern version of cancel culture
is what you're saying.
It's almost reverse.
It's audience capture is what it is.

(01:22:12):
And so they're deathly afraid to be running.
See, no one cares about us.
No one knows about us.
That's true.
Only the people who listen.
No one else knows.
Only our dedicated million plus audience, but nobody
cares about them either except that they're all
big shots.
It's amazing.
Well, there you go.
But we'll never matter in mainstream culture.

(01:22:36):
We just don't matter.
Joe Rogan doesn't have me on and say,
man, that No Agenda show is the best
thing ever.
No.
He doesn't.
I don't think he's listened to the show
once.
You invented podcasting.
You used to have long hair.
But that's my point.
These jamokes, they're all dependent, the T5M, they're
all dependent upon clicks and views and algos

(01:22:59):
and outrage.
They are literally talking about each other.
And that rises.
I know.
We both noticed this.
Yes.
Oh, Tim Pool's going to talk to Candace
Owens, who's going to talk to Steve Bannon,
and she's going to be on the Bannon
show, and then Bannon's going to be on.
He's going to talk to Pool.
Then there's the value attainment guys.

(01:23:20):
You've got to get on there.
Yes, yes.
The value.
It's the same little group.
Yes.
And throw in a little bit of Tucker
Carlson.
And Ian, he was even on Rogan.
So Rogan's getting sucked into this.
And I think Rogan's gotten a lot of
pushback.
Because if you don't call out the genocide
of Israel on Palestine, then you are clearly

(01:23:43):
a Zionist.
It doesn't matter what war or what death
you call out.
If it's not that one, then you're no
good.
So all this to say you should be
happy with the best podcasting universe and enjoy
it for the last three years and nine
months.
Because what are you going to do after
that?

(01:24:04):
Candace Owens.
What happened to her?
She's bigger than ever, I think.
Because she's only talking about gossip and show
business.
Blake Lively.
Blake Lively.
It all deteriorated.
Blake Lively.
That's all she talks about.
She's a psycho.
That would be our analysis.

(01:24:26):
Hey, let's talk about Blake Lively.
She's a psycho.
All right, we're done.
It's like everything deteriorates to celebrity chitchat.
Always.
Even Alex Jones is tired of it.
If you can make Alex Jones tired of
something like this, then you've gone very far.

(01:24:48):
So it's just like, oh, man, stop already.
Stop.
So I have some thoughts on Canada and
Carney.
Oh, yes.
Okay, good.
I'm interested in Canada and Carney.
The appointed prime minister.
And now I feel bad about not getting

(01:25:12):
a clip when I heard it the first
time, because I didn't think much of it.
I said, I don't know, what is he
talking about?
Trump's sitting behind his desk.
He's yakking away about turning Canada the 51st
state.
And somebody calls him and says, well, you
know, there's just be a bunch of Democrats.
They're going to all vote red.
I don't know why you want that.
He says, well, I don't know.
I think they're both parties up there are

(01:25:33):
good.
And sometimes he makes a comment.
He literally says, I think the Liberal Party
might be the better of the two parties.
Oh, okay.
Trump says the Liberal Party might be better
to.
Meanwhile, he keeps goading Canada.
Yeah.
And he and.
You know, threatening them with this and that

(01:25:54):
and the other.
And it's turned the Liberal Party into a
popular party.
All of a sudden.
It did.
I mean, yes, it did.
It did.
And now I'm beginning to think this was
intentional.
Hmm.
And let's listen to these.
I got three clips.
This is the start with this.
This is Trump.
Carney.
Carney.
Tariffs.
NHK.

(01:26:14):
U.S. President Donald Trump says he'll slap
additional tariffs of 25% on imported cars
from April 3rd.
One country significantly affected is Canada.
Its new prime minister, Mark Carney, stressed at
a news conference Thursday he will hit back.
We will fight the U.S. tariffs with

(01:26:35):
retaliatory trade actions of our own that will
have maximum impact in the United States and
minimum impacts here in Canada.
Carney said Trump's team requested a phone call
and he plans to pick up soon.
Meanwhile, Trump took to social media in the
middle of the night to lay down a
warning to Canada and the EU.

(01:26:56):
He told them not to work together against
the U.S. or even heftier duties are
on the way.
Trump hopes to boost car production in America
through import taxes.
But if the U.S. and other countries
start a tit-for-tat tariff war, the
global economy looks bound to suffer.

(01:27:17):
Interesting that it's April 3rd.
I mean, April 2nd is Liberation Day.
What are we doing on April 3rd?
This is interesting.
I don't know why this is either.
I don't get that.
But this whole idea that this might be
a setup, a plan, a scheme.
And the reason I'm starting to think this
way is because, first of all, we're not

(01:27:38):
moaning and groaning about Carney never getting one
single vote for anything.
We're not talking about, oh, he's not elected,
he's never done anything.
Carney was brought in from the bank.
Yes.
He is a literal banker.
He's a literal banker.
He's the head of the Bank of England.
And then he was the head of the
Bank of Canada.

(01:27:58):
And the Liberal Party kicked Trudeau out, who
quit, kind of quit, but he was writing
on the wall.
Well, we knew there was a blackmail scandal
going on.
Well, there's something going on.
And so they bring Carney in.
And so Carney's now running the whole place.
And nobody's making mention of the fact that

(01:28:18):
this guy, why?
Why did they put this banker in charge?
And why, all of a sudden, is the
Liberal Party becoming popular again?
He's off the radar.
You don't even hear from him anymore.
There's a bunch of studies.
Oh, no, the Liberals are going to win
because they're going to have a snap election

(01:28:40):
now at the end of April, April 28th,
I believe.
And so the snap election, you do these
things, you can do this in a parliamentary
system when you think that you can kick
ass.
Right, that's what you do.
Sometimes it doesn't work out, but most of
the time it does.
You do a snap, a snapper.
Snap election.
And then you can take over the place.
And so they, so Trump is promoting this

(01:29:01):
51st state thing and throwing, he's getting Canada,
Canadians pissed off.
And, and Carney, and Carney is, we're going
to fight for our country.
We're not going to take it.
He's Mr. Strongman.
It's like a strong man against strong man.
I believe because, and I believe this, and
I only get this from memes.

(01:29:22):
You know, you have to get the information
where you get it.
You don't know house inhabit.
I can't believe it.
You know, Pepe.
Pepe the frog.
Yeah.
You know, Pepe the frog.
Yeah, of course I do.
There are memes after memes after memes saying
don't pass this around, but Carney spent a
lot of time on Epstein Island.

(01:29:42):
No.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There it is.
We're back.
We have our own little version of it.
Nice.
So I think Carney's got, they got the
goods on him.
Oh, Epstein files going to drop after he,
after the snap election.
Well, not necessarily or before or never or

(01:30:03):
never because you want to hold him.
Yeah.
It's the Bunsen burner.
So this is, this is the leverage we
have over kind of, this is why Trump
was going on about how the liberal liberals
are.
Okay.
This is a great gambit.
Hey, Mark, Mark, Mark, Mark, Mark Carney.
What's that in your mouth?
What's that in your mouth?

(01:30:23):
It's total.
And then you start, so you get these
next two clips and it kind of like,
is this all part of some grand scheme?
Let's play.
This will be set up.
Adam Chapnick, a professor of defense studies at
Canadian Forces College.
Since Carney is taking a hard line against
Trump on the back of rising patriotism among

(01:30:44):
his compatriots.
President Trump's threats to make Canada the 51st
state have unleashed a wave of nationalism and
patriotism in Canada that we haven't seen in
years, if not decades in Canada, we're normally
polite and relatively quiet.
In this case, however, it is a threat

(01:31:05):
to our very being and it's brought now
to pride that I think has always been
there, but we don't, we aren't inclined to
show it in the same way as some
other countries do.
And in this case, whether you lean politically
to the right or to the left, everyone
seems to agree that we are proud to
be Canadian.
We don't want to be citizens of any
other country.
As a result of Carney's continued harsh comments

(01:31:27):
about the Trump, the ruling party's support rate
has recovered rapidly.
In a poll of polls by CBC News
this week, the liberals were more popular than
the opposition conservatives led by Pierre Poliev.
Chapnick suggests the election offers a chance for
whoever is Canada's next leader to turn the

(01:31:48):
page with the Trump administration.
I am liking this theory of yours, John.
I'm liking it too.
Here we go with this last clip.
This was the kind of, there's some other
kicker information in here, which may or may
not have something to do with the scheme.
Canada spends less than one and a half
of its GDP on defense, something Trump has

(01:32:09):
strongly criticized.
It seems highly likely Canada will sharply hike
its military budget.
I think Canadians are united in understanding that
we have to commit more to defense and
we have to spend more on national defense.
Both political parties are promising increases to the
defense budget.
Whether they are big enough to satisfy the

(01:32:31):
United States is not yet clear, but I
can virtually promise you that Canada will be
spending significantly more on defense over the next
five, 10, 15 years.
Even so, if relations with the U.S.
remain poor, Canada will seek to strengthen relations
with European allies and other countries.

(01:32:53):
From a Canadian point of view, Canada's national
interests are best served when we work with
allies.
So in some ways the challenges with the
United States might actually bring us closer to
our European and Asian allies because we will
need more friends more than we ever had
in the past.
I think that much of Europe is responding
the same way, that Europe has to get

(01:33:15):
more serious about its security because it might
not be able to rely on the United
States in the near future.
So this isn't ideal, not the ideal situation,
but if something good can come out of
it by closer cooperation amongst like-minded allies
in the West, that would be a great
thing.
So if I understand what you're saying, the

(01:33:36):
real win here is our manufacturing base in
the United States is going to grow significantly
because Europe has nowhere to buy all this,
all this war stuff for at least the
next couple of years.
Canada has nowhere to buy it.
Meanwhile, everybody's ramping up their money and we're
going to take it.
Yeah, exactly.

(01:34:00):
We should, uh, we're like North Korea, South
Korea here.
We should, uh, we should drop, uh, American
flags and Kid Rock CDs over, uh, over
Ottawa.
We need to help them out.
Well, there was another, there was another little
extra bit, uh, on Truth Social.
The president posted, I just played a round

(01:34:20):
of golf with Alexander Stubb, president of Finland.
And it turns out he's a very good
player.
We won the men's member guest golf tournament
at, uh, the Trump International Golf Club in
Palm Beach County.
And, um, I look forward to strengthening the
partnership between the United States and Finland.
And that includes the purchase and development of
a large number of badly needed icebreakers and

(01:34:42):
beautiful ships.
I hear, uh, now that of course is
on Russia's border.
Maybe this whole I'm pissed off at Putin.
Maybe that whole thing is to prolong things
a little bit.
Let's let's keep the money train going here.
That pissed off at Putin thing could be,
this could be a scheme could be between
him and Putin.

(01:35:03):
Yes.
Well, the whole, the whole thing that Putin
is saying, this whole thing we're watching theater.
Yes.
This is everything that Canada 51st state, uh,
this, the late letting this Carney guy who's
not even, you know, this crazy guy who's
never gotten a vote in his life, uh,
run Canada.
And then we're all be, we're kind of
like pushing Canada to get pissed off.

(01:35:25):
They get so damn mad that they buy
stuff from us.
Uh, the whole thing is ridiculous.
Well, let, let, let me bring in, uh,
in Putin and Russia and, uh, and Ukraine
into this.
Uh, this is from, um, uh, where is
this?
This is, uh, I think first post and
moving to the war in Europe, Russian president,

(01:35:46):
Vladimir like that, the war in Europe.
Now it's just, it's not Ukraine.
It's the war in Europe.
People.
It's just the war in Europe.
And moving to the war in Europe, Russian
president Vladimir Putin has proposed placing Ukraine under
temporary UN control to pave the way for
new elections and key peace agreements, claiming that
president Volodymyr Zelensky's leadership lacks legitimacy.

(01:36:06):
Putin insisted bringing in a third party to
be a viable government that quote unquote, enjoys
the people's trust.
In principle, of course it would be possible
under the auspices of the UN with the
United States, even with European countries and of
course with our partners and friends to discuss
the possibility of introducing temporary administration in Ukraine

(01:36:29):
for what in order to hold democratic elections,
in order to bring to power a viable
government that enjoys the people's trust and then
begin negotiations with it on a peace treaty.
However, the Russian leader's proposal has been met
with skepticism.
The white house national security council emphasized that
Ukraine's governance is determined by its constitution and

(01:36:50):
its people.
There has been no immediate comment from Ukraine.
However, president Zelensky has repeatedly rejected any notion,
questioning his legitimacy and he insists that elections
are impossible under martial law, which he imposed
in response to Russia's invasion back in 2022.
You know, the concept, the idea that this

(01:37:11):
is we're watching all theater is highly possible
and probably very likely if you add one
more bid in, remember we have to flood
the world with American stable coin with dollars.
I'm a dollar dominance through stable coin.
You can't get around it.
That is now being said by the president,
by the secretary of the treasury flood the

(01:37:33):
world with stable coin.
This is from the defense and aerospace podcast.
All the European union members were just advised
to stock 72 hours worth of food and
shortwave radio and all this type of thing
because of potential catastrophic events to come, including
war.
They're getting quite serious here.
I think they are beyond now the insults

(01:37:54):
that's coming their way left and right.
They are absolutely moving ahead in terms of
trying to figure out the European defense without
the United States helping Ukraine without the United
States.
And so they are putting some meat to
those bones with the idea that not only
is it important for European security that Ukraine
is protected, but that this is something that

(01:38:16):
they hope will buy themselves a seat at
the table is the fact that there are
not going to be sanctions lifted on Russia,
like Swift, which is one of the demands
that Russia has levied on everyone if they're
going to agree to this, this, a black
sea and energy infrastructure ceasefire.
But to do that, to lift Swift and

(01:38:37):
to assist in terms of the agricultural trade
and banking resources that the Russians are asking
for the, you, you, the Europeans have got
to be part of that.
It's new.
Swift has done out of Brussels.
It's not done out of Washington.
There is a lot happening here and there
isn't this is us with us or not
anymore.
If the assumption is that the U.S.

(01:38:58):
has walked away every day, something happens to
make them feel that and to know that.
And so they're beginning to act along those
lines.
There is an energy here and a direction
here and a drive here and an anger
here that I haven't seen ever.
And so it's, it's moving.
I don't see it turning around anytime soon.
So you freak the people out like you
better get your shortwave radios and your tuna

(01:39:20):
fish can and a flashlight because you know,
Putin can strike at any minute.
And so you've got to give us your
money.
We need to take your money because it
is in effect, taking the people's money in
advance by borrowing and carving out 150 billion
right off the spot and giving that to

(01:39:40):
the contractors, the military contractors, which for the
foreseeable future is us.
And then what you want to, they control
Swift.
I didn't realize that Brussels controls Swift.
Well, that's great.
Here's the meet the new Swift.
It's called stable coin.
It's a beautiful stable coin and you can

(01:40:02):
trade that.
It's its own networks.
It can trade on any network, on any
blockchain, any layer to a level two system.
This is a, this could be a very
big game, big theater.
Something's up.
Well, yeah, I think we're a little, little

(01:40:23):
deeper than something's up and these pieces are
coming together.
I'm not sure how, now I'm not sure
how Finland fits in, but then out of
the blue, out of the blue, Afghanistan pops
up.
Did you catch this?
Yeah.
This is the, uh, the minister of foreign

(01:40:44):
affairs, Abdul Kahar Balkik.
Abdul Kahar Balkik.
Thank you so much.
This is on CBS.
This is a legitimate CIA broadcast systems.
Abdul Kahar Balkik.
Thank you so much for speaking to us.
The Taliban has been clear that it wants
a new chapter with the U.S. What
is a new chapter?
It's a new chapter means that we end

(01:41:06):
the, we close the old chapter of 20
years of, uh, warfare of being adversaries and
looking forward to the future.
The common goal of a stable and prosperous
Afghanistan for the benefit of the people of
Afghanistan.
And we believe that having an Afghanistan that
is integrated, uh, that is prosperous, that is
stable is also in the interest of the

(01:41:26):
United States of America.
So now the Taliban pops up and says,
Hey baby, want to, want to talk deal?
No deal.
Well, you got an idea.
I got an idea.
What do you got on your side of
the table?
What do I get on my side of
the table?
But as you know, president Trump is unlike
other presidents and wants to make a deal.
And the one he's outlined is pretty clear.
Give us back our military hardware worth billions
of dollars.

(01:41:47):
And we will unfreeze these assets, which rightfully
belong to Afghanistan.
Will the Taliban take that deal?
With regards to the assets of the central
bank of Afghanistan, just as, as the title
says, they're the assets of the central bank
of Afghanistan.
They're not the assets of my government or
any other administrations, uh, that have, uh, governed

(01:42:08):
Afghanistan previously.
These are the assets of the people of
Afghanistan and the state of Afghanistan.
They have been withheld, uh, wrongfully, uh, illegitimately
and unlawfully, and they need to be released
without any conditions.
Okay.
So this doesn't sound like it's about the
money at all.
I mean, first of all, what are we
real there's nothing they've already gotten rid.
They sold everything.

(01:42:29):
They crashed all the helicopters.
The planes are no good.
All that.
They give away the pickup trucks are scattered
all over the country, all over the world.
And then, and then the asset, the frozen
assets, it's a whopping get ready for it.
17 and a half billion dollars.
That's an Elon Musk couch.
Now that's not a problem.

(01:42:50):
So there's something going on here.
And again, is Afghanistan, what country do they
border on Pakistan?
Nice.
India.
I think maybe China.
Yeah.
I'm thinking one of those.
It's clear that Taliban wants to reset with
the U S despite this 20 year history
of pretty brutal warfare.
President Trump made a deal with the Taliban,

(01:43:11):
which ultimately saw the end of America's longest
war.
And indeed the withdrawal of us forces.
It's all done has been in power ever
since.
And now Mr. Trump is back in office.
Now he said that what he wants to
see.
Whoa, that was kind of, that was interesting.
I missed it.
Well, they made it sound like Trump did
the withdrawal.

(01:43:32):
Thank you.
really?
Yeah.
Listen again.
All bond has been in power ever since.
Wait, let me play the, you got to
hear the full bit from here.
There was president Trump made a deal with
the Taliban, which ultimately saw the end of
America's longest war.
And indeed the withdrawal of us forces.
It's all done has been in power ever
since.

(01:43:56):
Now he said that what he wants to
see, at least initially, is the return of
billions of dollars worth of us military equipment
and hardware back to the us.
In exchange, he will consider unfreezing foreign currency
reserves that president Biden froze after the withdrawal.
Is that a deal that the Taliban is
willing to take?
Currently the best way to engage is through

(01:44:18):
normal diplomatic means, engage, talk, find common spaces
that secures the interests of both countries and
that addresses the common concerns.
Now.
So Afghanistan borders on all the stands Turkmenistan,
Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Pakistan, China.
Yeah.
Most importantly, Iran.

(01:44:41):
Yes.
That would be, that would be the most
important one.
And so this is, this is a part
of, of the show.
I think we need to have an, it's
just called the show.
This is a show.
This is not all of a sudden.
The Taliban goes, Hey, Trump, you know, you
know, you kill our guys, but yeah, you

(01:45:01):
know, let's do a deal.
Deal.
No deal.
There's a lot going on here that your
M five M is not exploring signal gate.
Mommy bloggers.
Oh, actually, um, what I have, I had,
uh, what did I have?

(01:45:22):
I had a signal gate clip here.
Yes.
Brennan.
Brennan lets it slip who he's really.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Brennan's back with Katie.
Who has two moms.
One mom is a dude in a dress.
Um, if you were the CIA director and
you were included on a, a signal message
chain, I know it didn't exist when you
were CIA director, but something of that light,

(01:45:44):
would you have, she say Chan?
Let me say chain.
I think a, a signal message chain.
I know it didn't exist when you were
CIA director, but something of that, like, would
you have spoken up, um, and said, Hey,
listen, we shouldn't be having this conversation here.
I know John Radcliffe has said that he
didn't release any classified information on that chain.

(01:46:05):
He's trying to absolve himself from any wrongdoing,
but did he have a duty to speak
up?
Well, I think it's certainly, there would have
been, should have been questions raised when Mike
Walsh informed the group that there was going
to be this signal discussion at the principals
level.
He was the one who put together this
communication chat forum.

(01:46:25):
He was one who's agenda.
So it's the national security advisor who chairs
the principals committee meeting, which this was a
virtual committee meeting.
And so there should have been questions raised
from the very beginning.
Well, wait a minute.
This is a pending military operation.
Why are we going to be doing this
on signal?
So it should have been redirected early on
to, into classified systems and networks.

(01:46:47):
So yeah, this is something that in my
experience, we never would have done.
Again, sometimes someone will pick up a phone
because you have to convey some type of
message to somebody.
And the only way you have to do
it is with some type of unclassified system,
but you do it cryptically, you do it
in a manner that's not going to reveal
the operational details.
And despite what secretary Hickson says, there were

(01:47:08):
operational details included in that chat.
So it sounds like Brennan's going after Waltz.
They're all going after Waltz.
And now the latest is this guy Wong.
The Wong guy.
Yeah.
Burl Lafong.
But that's, that's all Laura Loomer posts about
all day long.
I've already solved it.
Yeah.
Laura Loomer.

(01:47:29):
big news coming.
but she picks up some pretty funny stuff.
She's got this.
And the connection of course is a guilt
by association, which is this Wong character who
is Waltz's undersecretary, I guess.
It was married to a woman, another Chinese,
Chinese American who went after the J sixers.
Thus.
Oh, all right.

(01:47:51):
Oh, there you go.
Oh, there's a J sixer.
Oh man.
That's what a quagmire.
Oh boy.
Well then allow me to bring in Jesse
waters.
That's right.
I'm doing it.
I can't.
Oh, okay.
Hold on a second.
Let me make a note.
Make a note, make a note.
I figured this is the three for one.
It means I could do three for the

(01:48:12):
one.
What, what in what universe do you get
three for one of anything?
You, you, you promised me off camera off
camera.
We should stream cameras.
Yeah, man, we should do YouTube live when
we do this show, we should stream it
on X.

(01:48:32):
Uh, so this is the latest in the,
uh, in the JFK files, which went away.
By the way, I'm not going to interrupt.
Now that you mentioned streaming a live video
on X, you mentioned earlier in the show
how we're like not in this group of
people that are changing, you know, the value
tainment guy interviewing Tucker, who was interviewing Megan,

(01:48:54):
Megan, Megan, Megan, Megan, big circle jerk.
They're all video.
That's why.
Well, praise God.
You imagine we, I'll give you that one.
We have to do video.
Hey, what was it?
Someone had a good nickname for us.
It was, uh, tick and twitch or something.

(01:49:17):
Gone is buzz, uh, crackpot and buzzkill.
No people, we're not going to do that.
All right.
So this is, uh, this is the latest
twist in the JFK files, which just went
away within days within days.
I tell you all this big talk, the
Epstein files, the JFK files, and now we

(01:49:38):
learned this.
I would like to actually tell the American
people.
It was made aware to me this evening
that NBC actually has a video.
That's never been seen before.
We're actually going to be a set, sending
a letter requesting that from NBC because it
allegedly shows Oswalt, um, near the vehicle when
the assassination took place, which means that he
couldn't have been the shooter.

(01:49:59):
So again, we're tracking down all this information,
but look, there's even a CIA document that
came out that Mr. Morley pointed out that
actually said that the CIA never, never bought
the lone gunman theory.
And so I think the American people had
an inclination as to what we are saying,
but we never had the hard evidence until
now.
And so it's important to note that in
a free and fair society, how could you
operate or have an agency operating in the

(01:50:20):
shadows?
And so kudos to president Trump, also director
Radcliffe and Tulsi Gabbard for pushing for this
transparency.
It is going to be generational changing that
they've done this.
And we hope to bring forward legislation to,
to ensure that this never happens again for
future generations to come.
This is very unclear to me.
Did this information come out of the JFK
files drop?

(01:50:42):
This whole thing is a confused mess.
That's bull.
Whatever she said, oh, it's going to be
generational.
It will never happen again.
How do you prevent something from ever happening
again when it's just illegal to begin with?
I mean, what are they talking about?
Well, apparently all of a sudden there's a
picture of, of Oswald coincidentally next to the

(01:51:02):
car.
Hey, how you doing?
I'm Oswald.
It's film and Oliver stone had it too.
You're saying NBC has been keeping this tape
of Oswald under wraps.
Correct.
In fact, uh, stone actually told us that
he was showed this tape, uh, that it
was a secondary copy and that he said

(01:51:22):
that this could blow open the entire JFK,
um, investigation.
What I will also tell you though, Jesse
is, he said that NBC has been very,
very much so guarding this tape.
And so I believe that that tape belongs
to the American people.
We are going to be sending a letter
asking for that tape.
And I would encourage everyone to ask and
she's a Florida representative Luna.

(01:51:44):
Oh, this Luna is the bathing suit model.
Oh, hold on a second.
I mean, I didn't, is she a bathing
suit model?
She's the one that looks good in the
bikini and they made a big fuss about
it.
Luna.
She's kind of a Luna tick.
Anna Paulina Luna.
Yeah.
She's the bathing suit girl.
Is there, uh, let's see.

(01:52:05):
I don't see any bathing suit.
Well, just type in a band of plenty
of Luna bathing suit.
How about bikini, bikini, bikini?
That's the same thing.
Oh, Oh, back to the video tape.
We are going to be sending a letter
asking for that tape.
And I would encourage everyone to ask NBC

(01:52:25):
to release that tape to the public.
It's important, not just for our investigations, but
so the American people know the truth as
to what happened with John F.
Kennedy.
Newsflash.
We're never going to know the truth.
Newsflash people.
Newsflash.
Luna is also causing some trouble with, uh,

(01:52:47):
with, uh, Johnson, the house speaker.
She's trying to do something.
And I can't remember exactly what it is.
She's somebody in the, in the troll room
might know this, but she's making a big
fuss about something.
She wants it brought to the house floor
or something and she can't do it without
Johnson, but there's some bypass mechanism.
She's working on Causing a stir.

(01:53:08):
This is so this everything is a show.
Everything is a show right now But in
my favorite was the save the spook operation
over there at Columbia University So we know
so SIPA, but what's the what is the
was that school stand for school for international?
Political public International spies public administration spy school

(01:53:35):
spy school Diversity graduates today tore up their
diplomas to protest the school's cooperation with the
Trump administration graduates of the School of International
and Public Affairs Chanted free Palestine as they
destroyed their sheepskins it was alumni day on
campus the protests are in support of Mahmood
Khalil the Columbia grad student and Protester now

(01:53:58):
held by ICE agents and they also object
to the concessions made to curb protests on
campus some protesters also calling for the dismissal
of several Columbia University teachers and Administrators, so
these are alums who came by tore up
their sheepskins, which is like cardboard to me
Yeah, it looked like cardboard paper And but

(01:54:21):
they're all they're all former spook school students
They didn't get a job in an agency
and so now they're pissed off The whole
thing could be a scam The world has
gone crazy man.
The world has gone crazy.
That's a good one.
I didn't know that story Yeah, well with
that I'd like to thank you for your
courage saying the morning to you the man

(01:54:42):
who put the C in his Chimes say
hello to my friend on the other end
the one the only mr.
Moran Caring to my ship seat boots at
the ground feeding the air subs in the
water all the names of nights out there
in the morning to the trolls 9992 thousand

(01:55:08):
two hundred and ninety one.
Okay now you're low Yeah, we're a little
low the last little The last ten show
average percent low the last.
Yeah, the last ten show average was 2569
But why is that is there something going

(01:55:30):
on because donations were short?
Yeah, donations are lousy Reversing support.
I don't think people are in we're not
talking enough.
We're doing the same thing.
We always do it's a big mistake We
make yeah, yeah, which is we don't talk
about what everyone else is talking about as
if it was something important Yeah, and in
this case this Spiral gator.

(01:55:54):
Yes.
Yes, and we also don't have video.
This is this we don't have well the
video I don't think it's a crucial.
I did have a it is they get
us on value tainment They keep trying to
get us on value tainment.
I'm trying to get you on no one's
ever contacted me Well, I did have a
thought about this as we're you know We
we have said four more years and we're

(01:56:15):
in that right now the final days the
final days of final days I did have
an exit strategy, which you're going to roll
your eyes when I tell you this.
Okay, let me pre-roll pre-roll because
I finally like oh and it was there
was some other bullcrap award show the 50
-over-50 or something for podcasts blah blah

(01:56:37):
Whatever it was and then I'm like there
is here is an award show an award
that only we can give this show And
it's completely valid and will be Revalidated every
year because I'm on the Rogan show it
with you know with grace.
I'm on once a year You have been
on that show six times.
I thought it was five, but it's six.

(01:56:58):
Yeah The punishing return are you ready?
Are you ready?
Yeah the Podfather Awards.
Oh I like it.
I knew you would because I'd roll my
eyes you didn't What do you change your
mind?
Oh, I know you would know the fact
that I preface it all you're gonna roll
your eyes No, no, I knew you'd like

(01:57:18):
it.
No the fact that I'm in on an
award show That part of always been against
but then I thought why don't I exploit
this and there's people always on X yelling
you idiot You nerd he's not the bad
father Adam Curry's a bad father and I
have proof and And and and I think

(01:57:39):
it's it's possible No, I want to stop
you right now.
I have been saying that we should be
doing of awards for yes Okay, there's the
eye roll, but I never considered the kind
so podcast Oh, no, we never considered since
it was you never once it's named after
you you're in Look this is no time

(01:58:02):
for ego John.
There's no time for ego It can be
no Ted Grouch awards just doesn't cut it.
All right that we can do those later
Ted Grouch awards will be great not to
mention it, but here's the trick it has
to be a gala.
It has to be a gala Or as

(01:58:23):
I like as I like to say a
gala.
Yeah, America They always say gala.
It has to be a gala.
I think the Brits say gala, too There's
no somebody says gala.
Somebody says go.
Well, we're gonna say gala And I think
because he never shows up he never accepts
an award I think if we have the
the right award I can get Joe Rogan
to come and and we can do it

(01:58:45):
in his club How about that?
You're liking it right?
Well, I like it except for the fact
that I may have to travel You don't
you just have to write stuff and just
post memes You don't have to come if
you don't want to if it's too much
trouble or you have to come to come
to the gala If it's too much trouble

(01:59:07):
to come to our Podfather awards and we
need to come up with categories, but they
have to be funny fantastic categories Like they
have to be good category.
Yeah, like best value team not joke about
best value attainment Okay, well you give me
some ideas How about longest podcast Win that

(01:59:33):
one with no information Candice Owens ladies and
gentlemen the Podfather award and we and what
do we call him?
Do we call him the potties?
No, the potties That would be the nickname
that we would Grail against people keep calling
these two potties, but it sounds like pot,
you know Yeah Yeah So it would be

(01:59:55):
you how you can get an Oscar the
potties is not beauty.
It's not a bad name You can get
you can Oscar.
It's part of the now.
It used to be a trifecta, but it's
the Oscar you get the Grammy Award Oh,
so we need the per the per got
So now you have a purse.
Yeah, you need to add the Podfather award
You are not complete unless you all and

(02:00:16):
everyone has a podcast Yeah, they can all
win all those actors, okay, we have best
comedy podcast that's one category for sure Yeah,
when you get some you get some hot
you get Dana Carvey or somebody to come
up?
No, no, we get and we get those
libtards from the what is it?
Jason what's-his-face?
What's the libtard show the one that helped

(02:00:37):
all the president Cal Jake on Jake Kyle
He gets an award for sure.
Oh, yeah, absolutely best all-in podcast Best
best female podcaster and think about that.
No, we don't want to do a sexist
stuff.
Yes, we do What are you talking about
then best trans podcast?

(02:01:00):
There's a hit yes, yes Yes, okay, well
It's I just want you to think about
it.
You know since I know I got I'm
in but it's riding you well did categorization
I think you you're already taking it too
lightly.
All right.
Well, where's your ideas brainstorm?
I What yeah, we're nothing but ideas about

(02:01:24):
this for a decade.
Well, then spout them off.
What are we doing?
First of all, you have to pay to
enter.
Oh No, well that that's what all the
all the podcast awards you have to pay
did to enter No, okay, you don't pay
real awards you don't pay to enter the
Academy Awards You don't pay you have to

(02:01:45):
be a member of the Academy or you
don't We have an Academy you have to
be a member.
Well, maybe that's not a bad idea the
Academy of podcasting That actually exists and it's
a horrible leftist organization.
We want no part of it.
Really that you had the podcast Academy Wow,
okay.
Well forget that no But how do we

(02:02:06):
make money?
Oh You want to make me that dude?
I thought it was a promotional idea.
The money-making is part of is about
promotion for the show.
Oh Okay, well value for value, oh boy,
okay.
Oh Man you just wanted to cash in
on some done some yes all of a

(02:02:28):
sudden Strategy can we get a sponsor?
Collecting fees.
Can we get this thing sponsored by?
Now you're talking square space can we get
sponsored by Squarespace and you can do that
and row underwriting Whatever you want to call
it.
Yes boner pills.

(02:02:50):
We can do something.
There's something in there for us Yeah, that
would be fine with me.
Okay, that's what I think is necessary to
make the event work at all Yeah, because
we have to have a budget Yeah, so
you get a budget from the from the
underwriter.
We give it away for free I mean
people get it for free.
They're just gonna have to You know Yeah,
no, I can I can I can see

(02:03:10):
that's not a problem fastest talker Boom, there's
Ben Shapiro.
He's oh, yeah, but then that's yeah Ben
Shapiro, there's maybe one or that that girl
that used to work for Ben Shapiro's operation
She's who sounds and looks like Shapiro that
girl.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, she she could win that What's saying?
I'm selling out Shoe on head needs an

(02:03:31):
award Shoe on head Well, I I have
I have come up with the concept it's
up to you to take it over the
finish.
Yeah Well, we'll make it happen.
Oh, yeah.
Sure.
It's Jay's working on the website as we
speak Well, she could be Getting pretty good

(02:03:52):
at that Thank you to these trolls who
are with us and contributing and nicely by
the way, every troll gets free entry on
the website Yeah, we should have the troll
room just scrolling by during the the Podfather
Awards Huh, do you do that?
Yeah, just big screens.
Are they just saying horrible things?
Yeah Ben Shapiro comes up Zionist.

(02:04:15):
Yeah pig We could get them all I
think it would be a hootenanny you do
it in Austin everyone wants to come to
Austin There's always a flight to Austin You
do it in Joe's Club.
I think I think I could get Joe
to do it I think he would be
okay with love Joe would do it Let
the club do it then he wouldn't be

(02:04:35):
a problem for him to accept an award.
No, of course.
He's there.
Anyway Yes best comedy podcast.
Boom.
There he is He's done Well, it's not
a comedy podcast best interview show.
It's listed under comedy, but yeah, he can
be listening on anything He wants I'm not
categorizing him.
Anyway, so I don't watch that show and
crack up Alex I'll expect a business plan

(02:04:58):
by 3 p.m. You you're not getting
anything by 3 p.m I Thank you
very much trolls for being with us their
troll room dot IO No agenda dot stream
and of course in the modern podcast apps.
These are the ones you want to get
The Podfather Awards will only be streamed live
on the modern podcast apps, of course and

(02:05:19):
NBC this fall You can get one of
those at podcast apps calm and as you
just heard We're about to sell out from
our extremely successful model that we've been running
for over 17 years value for value Although
I do like the idea of just using
the whole show as promotion the whole Podfather

(02:05:40):
Awards is promotion for no agenda I think
that's pretty good But then we would have
to kind of switch the video What?
Yeah, we do video the awards can be
videoed.
Yes.
Yes Yeah, what I'm doing the podcast video.
No way.
No, no way.
It's not gonna happen You imagine it would
be in that same circle jerk.

(02:06:00):
Although Would let's think of all the podcasts
we could be invited on.
We finally get on value tainments You can
get on any time today.
No, that's not true.
No, they don't want me.
They don't like me there.
I can tell Why don't they like you
you think I don't know But everyone's always
saying get curry on get curry on and
they they'll post on X who should we

(02:06:20):
get in the book?
Yes, who do you want to see curry?
Curry?
Curry?
Curry?
Curry?
Devorah Devorah curry curry curry curry never Never
it's totally valid.
I'm also baffled that Tucker Carlson hasn't invited
me Let's see you on Tucker.
Yes, I do I'm an interesting guy.

(02:06:41):
I Think Beck go back to Beck Beck
has got a better audience Yeah, but Beck
wanted me to work for him and I
kind of turned him down So that yes,
you keep saying that but so what he's
still like he still thinks you're his brother
He'll be glad to put you on the
show Pitch you again.
I Gotta have an angle man.
You got it.
He's all it.
Oh, he just did this whole thing on

(02:07:02):
AI and Beck's like, you know, this is
happening.
This is the new God.
Oh, he's all in on AI.
Oh, he's talks to AI Yeah, I was
talking.
Yes.
He talks to AI Yeah, he really he
really believes that it's the it's the new
Gollum You know if you know the story

(02:07:22):
of Gollum yeah Gollum mud Yeah, okay.
Yeah the got the Gollum character Anyway value
for value.
That's how we continue to roll for as
long as we can it was definitely shorter
today than than expected, but you're right, which
probably because there's no video and And we're
not talking about all the important stuff You

(02:07:46):
know, we're not harping on that one thing
like RFK jr.'s blackmail scandal Yeah, because it's
all bullcrap we don't talk bullcrap that's the
thing yeah, it's a problem They don't if
they're not used to getting good material from
us because we don't talk about Nonsense, I
met a cool guy yesterday in in Fredericksburg.

(02:08:07):
I know yeah Saturday.
Yeah He's gonna do with some work with
me Some development work and and I said,
well, how long he's 47 how long you've
been listening says Oh, I've been listening almost
from the beginning, but then I fell overboard
for a long long time I didn't come
back until 2018.
Why'd you fall overboard says?
Well, you know I worked in aerospace at

(02:08:27):
Space Force for 20 years and when you
started talking crap about the moon landing I
got upset and I stopped I Wow, I
had no idea The people got mad about
that and would rage quit That's interesting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well Leo Laporte felt the same way.

(02:08:48):
Yeah, he still does Time talent to treasure.
That's all we ask in return whatever value
you receive from this program And I think
we do deliver the goods we do give
you value It's definitely not what you're getting
anywhere else and maybe you look smart at
a cocktail party around the water cooler or
on the company Oh the Monday morning zoom
meeting.

(02:09:08):
This thing's this intellectual smart things.
You can say and people will go Wow
I guess you don't read home and habits.
Do you?
and one of the Ways that we always
enjoy is our artwork from our artists and
these artists, you know the I've noticed the
artists are Actually tricking us into believing that

(02:09:32):
they're doing AI but they're not Just before
we thank our artists for episode 1750 sir.
Shug who did flexible eyes on 1749 He
said Thanks for the props and choosing one
of my art pieces again just to confirm
old-school jazzercise artwork was indeed my inspiration
The listener involved in that original art was

(02:09:54):
correct in her assessment I hope it gave
her a smile but just so you know
no AI at all in that one if
I thought anything was AI was gonna be
that one and So now I'm questioning Nico
sign because he did a dynamite piece Which
may and it may not be AI this
this could just be a well-done piece.

(02:10:15):
It was the Liberty Juice I think that's
the idea So we had a dinner table
conversation because JC is an AI and talking
about your complaint from the last show mm
-hmm Which one is he could have?
Sorry, which which complaint there's a lot of
complaints.
I have well the main complaint that you
tried to get a I do some coding

(02:10:37):
For you.
Oh, yes big coding go coding.
Mm-hmm, and he said that this is
a known Problem with AI.
Oh that unless you know what you're doing
to begin with In other words, you can
code in the language and you're adept at
it.
Hey, I can't do Jack All I can
do is help you a little bit Mm

(02:10:58):
-hmm, and I think is the same thing
with these artists the guys who are really
have an artistic temperament that use AI And
I would put Darren O'Neill in that
category They know how to prompt they have
a sense of it and they and they
have a sense of everything and that's artistic
is Darren O'Neill for some unknown reason

(02:11:19):
to us Very artsy guy And so and
other artists a scare among is a good
example There's others that know how to pray
scare among you can do He can do
animation in AI to the point where it's
attracted brunetti Yes I know and so we
have it's the same thing if you if

(02:11:40):
you do I I can do some AI
stuff with the art but I can't do
anything compared to I mean compared to what
Darren can do because he's More of an
artist than I am so and it's the
same thing with coding so that was his
comment Okay.
Well, so then then the the promise of
AI is bullcrap is what you're saying So
unless you can actually write a book AI

(02:12:01):
won't be able to write a book for
you Exactly, and if you can't do art
a I can't do art for you Okay
Now the exception of this may be comic
strip blogger But chemistry blogger maybe is an
artist in some way and he could and
he just got pretty adept at using the
prompts Because he has a I but art

(02:12:25):
And he gets a I to do it,
I mean that's a special he's a but
expert, okay That was kind of the point
so it's an augmentation rather than okay origin
originate augmentation not origination Oh, so is that
really worth a hundred billion dollars per company
then?
Of course?
No.
Okay.

(02:12:45):
Thank you Too late now.
No, you wait and the data centers scams
fall on her part So We thank who
are we thinking again?
We were saying go sign.
He go sign.
Yes for his artwork there now we both
liked Tante Neal's splash, but we kind of
really wanted that for a title and It

(02:13:09):
was I didn't think the art was that
compelling you you really like Darren O'Neill's
it freedom sap Well, yes, it way with
the ultimate choice came between Liberty juice from
Nico's I'm or freedom SAP From Darren O
'Neill and I even like the fact that
he had a better can Description the taste

(02:13:32):
of freedom 33 ounces versus Nico's I'm just
had 12 ounces on there But you have
a problem with SAP.
You just don't like SAP I thought SAP
as a associative word and anyone who listens
to no agenda shouldn't be seen as a
SAP And I was gonna use it.
That's take.
Yeah far.
Okay.

(02:13:52):
Sorry And so I was thinking of using
it when I could use for the newsletter
because it's very attractive But then again, then
I saw this little screaming Mimi thing by
dr.
Kelly Yeah, and I said that I just
saw that image.
I don't know if that was a I
or not, but it's just the screaming Liberal
is I mean, I just say that I

(02:14:12):
had to use that so I ended up
using that by the way just on that
on that idea of it being a tool
so many people believe That they know how
to write a song and they go into
AI and then they say AI write a
song They might give some lyrics or a
snippet of lyrics and then they send it

(02:14:33):
to me and say this is the best
song ever It's always a country song I'd
say 90% of all why is that
by the way that's I've heard I've noticed
this too Because the least people in the
world understand what a good country song is
the most people will think oh, that's great
That's my feeling behind it And the most

(02:14:56):
people will know what a good hip-hop
song is and and and it's all atrocious
it's no good and people just because it's
in tune and it rhymes and it comes
up with a Chorus be like this song
is the best This is actually killing Spotify.
Well the inverse Spotify is making tons of
money There's you know hundreds of artists amazingly

(02:15:19):
in Sweden Who are just flooding this so
the whole business on Spotify is playlists.
You have to get on a popular playlist
That's that's how you get a hit and
you can buy your position.
It starts at five thousand dollars and these
playlist makers They know what they're doing.
They know how to make playlists And Spotify
promotes the playlists.

(02:15:39):
It's all incestuous.
Believe me So now Spotify has is promoting
all these different play.
Oh sleep at night a soft jazz piano
jazz Classical and it's all a I generated
muck and and because it's a I generated
muck They take all the money from it.

(02:16:00):
They don't have to give it to the
To the music publishers anyone.
Yeah And it's I I think it's going
to be it's a very dark road.
They've taken by doing this now people are
starting to notice Yeah, cuz it's our road
to the bank No, yeah, we'll see Anyway
was anything else we needed to mention I

(02:16:22):
kind of like that.
I like the boomer pills.
It wasn't good enough for art By also
Nikos I'm Nikos comic-strip bloggers Liberty Juice
can I thought that was pretty good Yeah
Didn't tickle my fancy.
No, I didn't recommend it.
You like signal trap Well, I said it
was interesting.

(02:16:42):
But this the signal it had to be
blue It had to look more like a
sick.
It was it was too obscure too obscure.
Sir.
Shug did that one?
Anyway, thank you Nikos.
I'm good work.
Thank you We appreciate it and we appreciate
it what everybody does to support the show
because that is actual money in the bank
for us money We don't have to spend
on on doing these types of things But

(02:17:06):
we do need to pay bills strangely enough
so for that we thank all of our
financial supporters who delivered value back to the
show $50 and above and we Like to
give a special thanks to our executive and
associate executive producers These are the ones who
come in $200 or above now if you
do that you get an associate executive producer

(02:17:27):
credit Just like Hollywood.
In fact go to IMDB comm you can
see many Hollywood bigwigs like Dana Brunetti known
from Fifty Shades of Grey and Fifty Shades
of Grey and and Grand Turismo and house
of cards.
I mean, no, it's no lightweight.
There's no non-ending non-ending.
That's right And we'll read your note $300

(02:17:48):
or above you get an executive producer credit
and we'll read your note and we kick
it off with Commodore Mech That is because
he becomes a Commodore today, I believe No,
maybe not.
He was all was he already a Commodore?
Let me just check for a second Yeah,
I think is today I could be wrong.
Let me I can double check.
Yes I mean, he was no no, he

(02:18:08):
wants to be knighted, but he becomes a
Commodore today.
So I already gave hundred I mean, whatever
it is Commodore and a knight.
He's from Cherry Hill, New Jersey home of
Eddie Murphy And comes in with $500 and
says karma, please I finally looked over my
previous donations and with this donation I have
surpassed 1,000 that is the magic level
that means not only would become a Commodore

(02:18:30):
the no agenda show But also a knight
of the no agenda roundtable and we will
knight you sir Mech later on and he
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know who this guy's aware of what's going
on, but Macron seems to be going nuts

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Yeah I've noticed that well, you know, I've
got he's married to a dude.
So that's part of the problem And Candace
Owens is not letting up on it No,
this is her main thing.
Mm-hmm She also thinks Schumer's married to
a dude.
Oh Wait, but has she said yet that
mother Teresa was Fauci's mom and that she's

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a dude because that that is the best
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that way it's Exclusive right here on the
show Let's play a couple of clips.
I got the France China climate crap from
NHK Okay, let's do that China says it
has agreed to bolster cooperation with France in
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change the two sides met on Thursday in
Beijing against the backdrop of Washington's America first
policy Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi and his
French counterpart Jean-Noel Barra issued a joint
statement marking the 10th anniversary of the Paris
Agreement on climate change the Responsibility of our
two countries is also to jointly propose Solutions

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to global challenges as we did ten years
ago to contribute to the conclusion of the
Paris climate agreement The two sides of China
and Europe should insist on being mutually beneficial
and win-win partners and open up new
prospects for bilateral cooperation by properly resolving the
specific problems that exist through Consultation in an

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apparent reference to Trump's decision to pull the
u.s out of the Paris Accord the
statement says the regression of certain countries from
scientific consensus and their withdrawal from Multilateral institutions
will only strengthen our determination and actions Well,
there's more money.
You can spend don't I don't I recall

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that when China joined the Paris Accords that
they said yeah, we're gonna do all this
and that the other in 2035 Yeah, some
more 20 30 or 20 35 and they
said that's when it's gonna happen.
And so what is the deal?
Did you get away with that forever this
bullcrap that you're just oh, yeah, we're all
in but in 2030 Yeah, because the no

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one cares because they're all in it for
the money even Al Gore there's he's back
again He's running around.
Is it too late?
Vice-president Gore.
Well, no, it's never too late.
No, I'd be out of a job.
It was too late It's not too late.
But you know, it's a lot of damage
has been done And so here's Macron going
on and on about Ukraine now trying to

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set up shop French president Emmanuel Macron says
a Franco British delegation will soon visit Ukraine
to plan for the deployment of What are
you called a reassurance force?
the troops role Reassurance force I gotta write
that down.
What does that even mean?

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I Have to mean anything Reassurance force Plan
for the deployment of what he called a
reassurance force The troops role would be to
guarantee an eventual ceasefire with Russia Macron hosted
the summit of leaders of about 30 nations
and organizations in Paris on Thursday to discuss

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support for Ukraine Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky also
attended Macron told reporters after a meeting the
participants unanimously agreed The time was not right
to lift sanctions on Moscow White House officials
said Tuesday Washington had agreed in separate talks
with Moscow and Kyiv that safe Navigation will

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be insured in the Black Sea and the
use of force would end in those waters
But Russia has insisted some sanctions must be
lifted before the agreement can take effect Speaking
after the Paris summit Zelensky said Russian President
Vladimir Putin is not ready for direct negotiations
The Ukrainian leader added that he's ready for

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negotiations in any format Force Armies, no, it
would be a force reassure our maze reassurance
This doesn't sound right reassurance of what a
force We're gonna reassure that we have for

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I don't know reassurance It sounds like something
Warren Buffett sells That's reassure our reassurance I
came across a crazy ad that I'd like
to share with you and it just Yeah,
and I guess it comes on the heels

(02:30:20):
of you know What is a producer who
I donated too late for today's show send
me a really long note Did you see
that note come in by any chance?
I'm sorry.
What a producer sent a really long note
That came in too late for today's show.
I didn't see it and it was about
pharma advertising Yeah, and I'm gonna see if

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I can find it real quick Hmm the
crux was Please stop talking about RFK Removing
pharma advertising Why should we stop talking about
because that's gonna kill my business.

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Oh Well, what's it got?
We're not working for him.
Does he send us enough money that well,
he's talking about this Get on that Linda
Lou packing train Well, you know it says
this is one of the biggest businesses it's
so much money for people who are Advertising

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creatives That is it's going to it's going
to kill their industry.
What but that's just the advertising industry There's
other things that need advertising.
Well, no one wants to lose their job.
Let's understand that but well I know but
why would you lose your job if you
lose it's called losing an account Well, but
it's the biggest accounts that the point of
the the producers was the biggest account.

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There you go Now you're talking.
It's the biggest accounts.
Yeah, so you guys don't talk negative about
coca-cola and Pepsi Which are other big
accounts said we don't that's correct.
We should you know that did you know
there was a whole?
Influencer campaign for for for sugary drinks that
a whole bunch of Right-wing influencers were

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on the money train for No, tell me
about it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well another thing we missed out on because
we're Because we're legit because we're legit there
are people apologizing like oh, I'm sorry It
was because you know, they're talking about taking
sugary drinks off of snap And so then
there's some genius in in sugary drink land,

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which could either be coca-cola or PepsiCo
I know there's much more came up with
an idea I know what we'll do we
had a bunch of those mega people to
to talk positive and say oh don't take
that off snap It's good.
It's good for children And they got paid
and they got paid and good money apparently
Anyway, I think there's my my point would
be I think there's plenty of room for

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It is I was waiting for something That's
very creative.
How do we do an ad for a
smart toilet, and now I want one of
these a Smart toilet yeah, why not it
has it has everybody's got one, but me.

(02:33:54):
I don't have a smart toilet I'm Doug
Horowitz has got one.
He's got a smart.
He's got a couple of them They got
what it what are these smart toilets do
but when you walk in the bathroom the
toilet opens up and greets you Anyway, wait
does it look does it do like this
you are being recorded.
Let's do one of those and not yet

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Kohler smart toilets really How come everyone oh,
well I see what they're talking about this
is some it looks like a box that
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Amazing this thing it's a square box with

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a seat and you poop in it, but
it reminds me of haute couture Well to
jiggle the handle no matter what yes I
would like to get a report from you
from Andrew Horowitz exactly what his as this
toilet been discussed on dh I don't think
yeah, it's been discussed on the show, but
I don't think this is the box You
know it's a toilet well If you're gonna

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get a toilet you might as well get
a designer toilet and that apparently is a
square box It looks like yes.
There's a square box with a hole in
the top even the lid is square.
It's called an outhouse To poop in then
you go in the backyard, okay, I have
a series of clips on in cells No,
which became a topic conversation on one of

(02:35:22):
the networks.
I remember it well And this is called
black pill And I got this a bunch
of clips and if you want to hear
them and talk about this because I think
this is bogus They make it sound as
though.
It's a club.
We're going to a book now.
It's just been published It's called black pill
wait is this the BBC World Service.
I won't I won't do the jingle and

(02:35:44):
it looks at the incel by which I
mean involuntary celibates movement and draws on interviews
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the new smart toilet from Kohler and world
It's been written by Maeve Park And the
idea is to help explain in cells and
the culture that creates them and what they
believe I spoke to Maeve Park earlier and

(02:36:07):
asked first of all just to do a
definition of terms as it were what does
the title black pilled mean?
And how does she define the term incel
the term black pills is the name of
the ideology?
We're seeing subscribed to incels It's a nihilistic
worldview with misogyny as well and the term
incel literally means involuntary Celibate however the term

(02:36:30):
is used within this group of people mostly
congregating online who subscribed the beliefs of the
black pill so they can believe in the
nihilistic version of life or the misogynistic wrapped
into one kind of ideological Worldview very bleak
very much about men being suppressed and very
much about if you're not attractive enough Your

(02:36:50):
hope in life is you don't really have
a lot of hope in life.
So kind of a fatalistic Catastrophic nihilistic worldview
with misogyny very much attached into it as
well.
Okay.
Hold on a second.
So you have five clips from the BBC
about black pill Yet they they can't fill
three clips with any information about Turkey Turkey

(02:37:14):
Turkey a they can't even pronounce it, right?
I know I'm very familiar with black pill.
This has been a term That's been around
Really with all this.
Well, you should ask the kids at the
table.
They're all married I mean, I don't think
any black pillars are around a lot.
You have to have a black pillar in
the family It seems to me.
Well, there's this is a real thing I'd

(02:37:36):
never really heard about how it was filled
with misogyny though.
That's that's an interesting take So I'm excited
to hear the rest.
Yeah.
Well, I think I've heard that part.
Hmm Cuz these guys, you know, they can't
get a date.
They can't look a girl in the eye
But it's black pill is not necessarily incel
black pill as you see no future for
the world and you're just According to this

(02:37:58):
woman black pill is incels.
So age isn't part of the definition No
age is not part of the definition in
the online world for incels They actually tend
to be in their mid 20s and they
tend to kind of start around 19 and
the oldest incels I've come across online would
be in their mid 30s So there is
a kind of a broad age group there

(02:38:18):
as well And the basic idea is they've
never found a girlfriend and they blame the
world This is the second time this guy's
done that and I don't know that it's
part of the British accent I never noticed
this before but he did it the first
clip.
He's done it again.
What do you do?
He says I dear Oh, yeah, that's it.
That's a very you know, that's a New

(02:38:39):
England thing to my mom would say I
dear what's the idea?
So it is a derivative.
It is a British thing.
I dear if there's no are an idea
But dear, but okay BBC also can't seem
to say Turkey a so And the basic
idea is they've never found a girlfriend and

(02:39:01):
they they blame the world for that Yeah,
basic idea.
Is that you that is true?
Yes So they believe that because they haven't
had any romantic partners or even gone on
dates or had any success in that kind
of arena That they feel that there's something
either very much wrong with them or wrong
with society And they're kind of taking that
out in a very much a resentment build

(02:39:23):
Ideology and a very kind of fatalistic manner
as well and that can get violent.
It can get violent We have seen violence
coming from this kind of ideology in this
worldview and we've seen some mass shootings and
mass homicide coming from it one of the
earliest mass shootings wasn't the 2014 the Isla
Vista Shooting in California.

(02:39:43):
It was carried out by a young man
called Elliot Roger He was 21 at the
time and he shot and killed six people
including himself And then from that we've also
seen other types of violence coming out of
the worldview as well We've seen sexual harassment
Stalking abuse abuse online and there has been
a wide variety of harms coming out And

(02:40:05):
then some of the violence that we're seeing
is also the suicide as well Well, this
is no laughing matter and there's a lot
of data to back up this problem that
young men have a very hard time finding
a Finding a mate just someone to date
Mainly because yes, well, it would say what

(02:40:25):
you said thing is mainly because because I
have a mainly because well There's it's the
problem is from two sides on the on
the female side many young girls are only
interested in a very Successful so they want
influencers they want money.
They want it.
They want if you got to have money
You got a show cash you got a

(02:40:46):
money and I'm generalizing but I think it's
it's true in general on the young men
side There's no place for them to go
meet girls So it's only online and the
only online experience they have is an overabundance
of porn So when when they finally, you
know meet or have a date all they
can think about is porn And I was

(02:41:07):
talking to the barista here at Java ranch
nice girl She's Adam.
I can't and you know, there's all young
kids.
I can't find a man to date and
I said well When you meet them this
horrible, all they want is one thing and
it's all like aggressive and it's just it's
it's horrible So I think that's that's what's

(02:41:27):
going on here.
I don't think so.
Okay I mean, I think that's that is
the result of the real problem.
Okay when I was a kid, here we
go Yeah, here we go.
Yes When I was getting the second grade
the third grade the fourth grade in the
first grade I think we were forced to
learn different dances.
We had to dance with girls.

(02:41:49):
Yes We were dancing at the cha-cha
They would teach us the cha-cha-cha
the rumba every stupid dance Imaginable and you
had to dance and square dancing was also
a big thing You had to learn how
to do that And so by the time
you're in the sixth grade you knew how
to at least you know Step around and
you were oh you're handling girls because you

(02:42:10):
had to dance with girls.
You weren't dancing with guys And so and
there was always the classes about half and
half so you'd get a you know And
you'd switch partners and you always you'd be
very familiarized and then by the time we
got to high school They had the sock
hop which I bitch about and moan and
groan about constantly is another old thing That's
long gone And the reason for the sock
hop was in the gym and he had
to wear socks Because they didn't want to

(02:42:32):
scratch up the gym floors the reason for
being socks But they all these dances and
people would stand around and then they pick
back.
There was there was forced Socialization at the
school level when you're a little kid that
is disappeared that is causing all the rest
of it Boomer update.

(02:42:58):
Yeah Well, there was also something called cotillion
That was more southern thing.
I think cotillion.
Yep.
Same idea.
I Think you are absolutely right now.
You have to add to that that the
schools have become exactly the opposite Oh, oh,
no, you know, you have to ask permission
and you can't look at anyone and it's

(02:43:19):
a toxic masculinity And the whole society, you're
right society is screwed.
You're right You're right.
And so these boys they they they fall
into a black hole of gaming and if
they're unlucky they get they get hypno Hypnotized
into into trans stuff Which which was covered

(02:43:43):
on the show?
And they go all goth and then they
turn into women.
It's the whole thing.
We're doomed people were doomed homeschool and get
your dance on Yeah, the homeschooling doesn't do
this the forced socialization quite like real school
used to do but they don't do it
anymore So you might as well homeschool.
Let's go to clip three Now one of

(02:44:04):
the striking things seeing your book was that
the people you interviewed were UK This is
where they were UK Canada USA, Australia, France,
Germany.
Is this a Western phenomenon?
It's not a Western phenomenon, but I was
going I was researching the anglosphere in cell
communities Which was an interesting finding to see
that there were people who came from non

(02:44:24):
English-speaking countries taking part in the English
-speaking In cell communities.
However, we have discovered that there are non
English in cell communities There are French communities.
There are Indian communities.
There are South Korean It spans the world
and now we're seeing even some African communities
coming up So it's not just a Western
problem or a Western issue But we are

(02:44:45):
seeing maybe the Western in cell communities being
they're probably the older communities They have a
lot more of the worldview established and they
really resonate around the media messages of the
West Mostly coming from an American kind of
media culture, you know, it's not just Not
just from your generation, but when I was
growing up at the The Dorps house as

(02:45:06):
I grew up in a small village south
of Amsterdam.
We had a like a little community.
What do you call that?
Yeah, where the community comes together as a
whole.
What do you call it community?
I when I was a good back I
would back to you back that up We
had a boys girls club kind of thing
on it was called the community center It
was in a Newark and the community center

(02:45:28):
would have these dances every Friday and Saturday
When you're in grammar school, well what I
had other situation there was the there would
dancing with Force dancing because it was a
socialization thing and I would say it's forced
Yes force dancing it We never had in

(02:45:51):
cells we didn't have the idea of somebody
living with their parents until they're in their
30s because they Can't get a date I
mean This is all new and it has
a lot to do with the lack of
socialization as a young adult as a young
No, and I didn't know young it a
kid.
Well, I was going to add to that
that we had once a year there was
dance lessons and Everybody would sign up for

(02:46:14):
dance lessons and you'd all go there and
that was a version it wasn't school organized
but it was village organized like It's China
for dance lessons and everybody did it.
You didn't want to be the the schmuck
that didn't go and no one could dance
That's why I went to dance lessons and
it was the same thing And of course,
I didn't go to dance lessons and I

(02:46:35):
became an inso But then I got on
the radio and things changed You've been married
three times.
You're not an in cell Wow, you had
to go there Okay, I was worried.
So do you think this is one of
those things that's happening because of the internet?

(02:46:55):
You know that these people like this have
always existed, but they've been isolated and now
they're not they're part of a group I
would say yes, that is definitely true And
that is why we're seeing kind of a
community build around people who couldn't find community
I often say that the incels online are
the most exclusive club in a very strange
way They're very clear about who is in
cell who is not in cell and who

(02:47:17):
would fit in their criteria However, there are
all a bunch of people who did not
find community outside of these groups So in
a strange way, they are the outsiders now
building a group for themselves online however, as
you said yes, there have always been people
who have been left out ostracized and in
cells not all of them would be misogynistic
not all of them would be violent many

(02:47:37):
of them are nihilistic very much self hating
and would not take their vengeance or Resentment
out on others but yes The internet has
allowed for this kind of ideologies to spread
around and people who may not have found
these ideologies before to find them And that's
what we're seeing with the internet.
You've used the term nihilistic quite a lot
So, can you just talk us through that
when you interview one of these young men?

(02:48:00):
How does that manifest itself that nihilism very
much a feeling that nothing will ever work
out for me that there is no Hope
for me that I may as well drop
out of society meaning if you're young dropping
out of university Dropping out of school not
attempting to find a job not leaving your
house not going outside or having any conversations

(02:48:20):
with anyone becoming very reclusive and Feeling like
that is your kind of fate at a
very young age, which is very difficult But
also very damaging for their life for their
sense of well-being and I've met many
people in their mid 30s who have gone
through that in their early 20s and are
now kind of seeing the impact of that

(02:48:42):
where they have no Social circle they have
no financial.
They have no ability to get a job
a salary And so their their situation has
become very bleak They can always and they
can always become artists for the no agenda
show Again we have that no explanation for
any of this is just a phenomenon which

(02:49:03):
is again, which is You're complaining about the
BBC from the earlier clips, yeah, but it
but you know, you didn't have to stretch
it out for eight minutes I'm sorry, but
we're gonna wrap it now.
So you Complain later There's no complaining.
Let's hold hands and share a secret So
it's a self-fulfilling prophecy in many way

(02:49:24):
The many ways I'm very damaging for young
people getting involved in that for that reason
as well Always male or sometimes female in
cells interestingly enough.
There are some women in cells There's a
group called femme cells However, there are not
as many of them and in cell the
term in cell is only male so only

(02:49:45):
men can call themselves in cells according to
the communities and According to the people online
who define themselves as in cell because the
out group for in cells are women So
the resentment is there around women and so
that's why it's important for them to keep
that in only men as well You've described
that this is a sort of self-fulfilling
prophecy and people in their mid 30s can

(02:50:06):
get into a very bad situation because they've
Had this thinking in their 20s.
Are there people who are in cells who
get out of it?
You know and they they find relationships and
they move on.
Oh, yeah Well, that's always the hope and
I speak about it in the book how
a couple of the interviewees I met so
I was interviewing them for over a year
and During that time a couple of them

(02:50:26):
found ways out of the ideology or out
of their situation One of the best success
stories was a man in his later 20s
returning to university after initially dropping out in
his early 30s in the UK and that
has kind of given him a new lease
in life a new goal a new feeling
of self-esteem and He's having a good
time enjoying it and finding people through it

(02:50:49):
as well So that was a success story
in itself Other times some incels can just
leave because they find potentially a partner or
friendships But we have to be very careful
about when we talk about whether a relationship
is your way out A lot of incels
will believe I will if I find a
girlfriend I'll leave the ideology but the evidence
is showing that sometimes when that happens the

(02:51:11):
ideology doesn't go away you don't become less
misogynistic or less nihilistic just because you have
a date or had a short-term relationship
or Girlfriend that doesn't solve the problem Well,
I think this is self-correcting.
We're seeing it already.
I mean, this is really a millennial problem
Sorry, Jen's Jen.
Yeah, no millennial problem younger millennial problem the

(02:51:33):
older Millennials were just close enough to Gen
X that they kind of you know, they
got a clue and I'm seeing Gen Z
Gen Z is kind of rebelling against technology
rebelling a bit against the phone stuff They're
playing chess.
They're going out.
They're doing other things.
They are getting together in groups I think
it's self-correcting.

(02:51:53):
It just gives the BBC another opportunity to
fill 10 minutes of airtime with direct direct
I It might be self-correcting but the
problem still exists at the schools are not
doing their jobs I'm socializing the kids properly
Oh there and until they start doing that
which you're not gonna do the way they're
going about things No, but the schools are

(02:52:15):
complicit in transing children and putting odd books
in the library and then highlighting it by
putting right lock and key Yeah, the schools
are the problem always schools are the problem.
There it is And that's why we need
to dissolve the part Department of Education Give
it back to the states and Texas will
be number one baby phone finger You know,
Texas is one of the states along with

(02:52:38):
a lot of the states that is like
they always bitch about California doing this with
the Texas California's a Johnny come lately when
it comes to not telling the parents that
your kids trans is going trans.
Yeah Texas is one of those states really
Yep.
Yeah, well How does that work?

(02:52:58):
I don't know.
I don't know.
I did I was not aware.
How do you get Jasmine Crockett?
Good point.
All right.
I'll I need to add a new word
to our Vocabulary as the Oxford Dictionary has
added it so that means Beside saying Turkey
a properly we now have a new one.
Let's talk because the English language is changing

(02:53:19):
The folks behind the Oxford English Dictionary added
dozens of new words to its pages this
week The new entries include many of Spanish
origin like Cubano Referring to anything Cuban from
individuals to the famous sandwiches also in their
slang phrases such as real talk Meaning honest
and direct conversations and British slang like the

(02:53:41):
word faffy as in overcomplicated and time-consuming
faffy faffy Ffy faffy yes, I've never heard
that I use Cubano Coincidentally in the show
today when you're talking about somebody a person
of Cuban origin you call them a Cubano
No, I was referring to the cigar cigar

(02:54:02):
But faffy faffy.
I've never heard this very new term It
was new to me Sounds like they're just
throwing it in for no good reason Well,
it's amazing.
You can say anything in public in the
United Kingdom man.
Did you hear about the whatsapp thing?
This was interesting Some parents got arrested for

(02:54:22):
posting something in a private group on whatsapp
Six police officers came to my house and
arrested me why?
Because I've been talking about my daughter's school
on a whatsapp group It was the morning
of Wednesday the 29th of January about a
quarter to 12 I was on a zoom
call for a work project when on my
zoom screen in the little window where I

(02:54:43):
saw my own face I realized that two
police officers were standing behind me another two
police officers Were arresting my partner Rosalind in
front of Francesca our three-year-old daughter
They bundled us into the police cars and
took us off the custody at Stevenage Police
Station Where we remain for the next 12
hours He arrested me on suspicion of harassment

(02:55:05):
and malicious communications and was to do with
a dispute with our daughter's primary school Which
began with posts on a whatsapp group?
Are you interested to hear what horrible things
they did in the whatsapp group?
You know, this has been going on now
for some some some time in England and
it's discouraging And and you have to wonder

(02:55:27):
you know about the mentality of the police
who have or enforcing these laws They seem
to be doing with some relish.
Oh, yeah, I find disturbing They enjoy it
Well the beats going after people with guns
and zombie knives.
I mean, hey Might as well take the
squad down and arrest these two parents on
the 23rd of November 2023 the head teacher

(02:55:51):
of my daughter's primary school announced he would
retire But what seems strange to me was
the board of governors decided immediately to appoint
the deputy head as acting head Ten months
later without even advertising the job.
So I made some inquiries I contacted the
chair of governors in private and in good

(02:56:12):
faith and asked her to explain what a
Rationale was what was going to happen her
response in my opinion was rather evasive So
I asked again and I wrote to all
the governors asking them to explain what was
happening and why they decided to do that
I posted that letter in a whatsapp group
It's a private parents whatsapp group on that

(02:56:35):
whatsapp group like most parents.
We chanted about a few things One thing
we talked about on that group was a
letter from the school Commanding all parents not
to talk about the school on Facebook or
social media or whatsapp groups We thought that
was a bit off.
My partner Rosalind made a handful of vaguely
spicy comments She referred to one school leader

(02:56:58):
as a control freak She said the chair
of governors didn't know much about anything Out
of the blue on the 12th of July
last year the chair of governors wrote to
Rosalind and me she accused us of posting
disparaging and inflammatory comments on whatsapp and Facebook

(02:57:20):
Yeah, you thought crimes you can't do anything
anymore in the UK And you can't even
say you have a wife.
You have to call it your partner.
I've never understood that They never say my
wife's and my partner.
Maybe they're not married.
No, they're married.
They're married They're married and they're calling her
the partner.
It's a very standard thing in the UK

(02:57:41):
and Australia as well It's it's it's a
bit of a woke thing Because I don't
want to see my wife By donating to
no agenda imagine all the people who could
do that.
Oh, yeah Well, what are the odds my

(02:58:03):
partner here is going to read off the
Supporters financial supporters who sent us back value
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(02:58:25):
away my partner.
Sure Sure partner, Sean Sean Holman Maybe a
relation that Noblesville Noblesville, Indiana 14848 and this
is I thought was interesting.
It's calling out D.
Nice as a juice bag Juice bag, we

(02:58:47):
get a douche bag for the juice bag.
I don't know what that is.
Sir.
Beep.
Boop.
111 11 11 11 He's the knight of
the frozen tundra Jennifer What do you think
5e 5e 5e 5e 5e a fiber of

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5e 5e 5e in Calgary, Alberta?
I have to uh, I have to read
this note She's in Calgary $100 33 cents
it we love you guys up here in
Candanavia.
So there you go.
Huh?
Yeah, can we get some IVF?
Baby making karma for our daughter and her
husband.
Let's do it right away.

(02:59:28):
Let's not delay.
You've got Karma remember After us, yep, it's
gotta be one test the rule.
That's the rule Brian Warden in Cumming, Georgia
100 I'll leave the note to it.

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So then I have a blank line Well
for a hundred somebody was there.
I wonder if it's this happens all the
time more recently.
There's a there's no name How does that
work?
sir, Kelly and Dame Andrea in Rocky Mountain
House, Alberta Canada another Albertan.

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No jingles.
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By the way, this Silverman is a late
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We do have two Commodores are very proud
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(03:05:42):
Welcome to the roundtable Commodore sir Mac Meetups
they're happening all around the world almost every
single day of the week Apparently we had
a couple of problems with the no agenda
meetups comm website I know sir.

(03:06:04):
Daniel is working on that, but we do
believe we have a complete lineup for you
But first we have some reports This is
the 61st meetup from the flight of the
no agendas Leo Bravo all the way from
New York to Los Angeles Taking care of
that in somewhere in California.
Hey everybody.
It's Leo Bravo at meetup number 61 I'm
passing the phone around my friends have things
to say.

(03:06:24):
This is toast ITM sir toast Jim new
to Fullerton, but I'm here Enjoyed your meeting
James by your friends trains good Planes next
time.
Hey, John.
I'm surely it can fall pop Just checking
to see if code Bongino still works Jim
better say 10-4 to all this nice
people in the morning answer the question go

(03:06:45):
Steven of the Orange Curtain John You'd be
interested to know there are very many young
foamers here at the Fullerton train station in
the morning This is Angie from the ranch
having a great time at the Fullerton meetup
Sounds like you missed a good foamer meetup
John can't you gotta get to those foamer
meetups Big one is always from our indie

(03:07:07):
group.
They are big They are large they are
in charge and they always include their server
in their meetups report Having a great time
with our no agenda family here in Indianapolis
drinking some beer and a converted Catholic Church
Thank you.
St. Joseph.
Hey, it's Gary here.
Look out people the brains of the DNC
are out on tour Yes, that's right AOC

(03:07:29):
Bernie Sanders are out there to rally the
troops Look out not a from Indianapolis just
happened to see that diesel at Costco is
333 Joshua crumb from Indianapolis, hopefully I can
get in for the Commodore in the morning.
Mrs Alicia may come from Carmel.
I'm syrup of the maple and my immigration
attorney has advised me not to make any

(03:07:50):
comment So every day I get to work
and I'm like, I'm surrounded by fed fed
fed.
I realize I am a fed Emily in
the morning brisket here.
Just drink us a beer in the church
a net ski here Just drinking some bourbon
in the church with the feds.
Hello This is Baltimore's and in ski and
I can do tariffs too.
I'm going to put tariffs on prostitution drugs

(03:08:11):
crocodile marijuana AK-47s all those things so
take that Trump.
Hi, this is Katie from the st.
Joseph's brewery in Indianapolis, Indiana It's been a
pleasure to host the no agenda folks, and
I look forward to seeing them again.
Hey, this is Carol I am in training
at st.
Joseph's brewery, and I've also had been a

(03:08:31):
pleasure Not
one but two servers in the report I
love those guys Thank You Indiana Indy meetup
those guys are good They're glad we got
the Wiggins Olinsky finally came up.
He finally showed up.
I can't believe he's putting the tariffs on

(03:08:53):
hookers Oh that guy There is a meetup
underway the TMI evac zone crossword puzzle meetup
But it started at 330 at evergreen brewing
in Camp Hill, Pennsylvania.
I'm sure they're still going strong Tomorrow April
Fool's Day meetup not for fools at 530.
That'll be at Barley's in downtown, Knoxville, Tennessee
Also on April Fool's Day Springfield, Missouri ain't

(03:09:15):
no fool meetup see there's a theme here
six o'clock It bears all-american sports
bar and grill in Springfield, Missouri Then on
Thursday Oh nothing on Liberation Day I want
to miss the opportunity on Thursday our next
show day the no agenda, New York City
meetup Yes, there are still normal people in
New York City five o'clock at the
perfect pint West in New York City, New

(03:09:35):
York, New York And finally also on the
third Thursday Northern Wake Publical slave gala the
gathering that'll be at 6 o'clock at
hoppy endings in Raleigh, North Carolina Many more
meetups to come including Osaka Japan on April
5th.
Make sure you check that one out I
know there was a big meetup in the
lowlands.

(03:09:55):
I got pictures and everyone's having a good
time So I expect to meet up reports
from them, which is usually quite inebriated.
We love the meetup reports We love the
meetups They're producer organized you get out of
it what you put into it go to
no agenda meetups comm guaranteed though You will
always have a party if you can't find
one near you start one yourself.
No agenda meetups And

(03:10:35):
yes, thank you trolls I made a mistake,
of course tomorrow is not the first but
Tuesday is the first And that was incorrect
in my crib sheet There's a 31st day
of March, so yes, that was my mistake
kind of I should have known better where
was my partner Where's my partner correcting me?

(03:10:57):
But I said Monday the first It's yeah,
yeah, that was a mistake.
Yeah All right.
I so time I've got three they're real.
They're not AI generated.
Let's see how we do.
I think there's some real evil out there
Hmm.
Okay.
No Delete that one.
How about this?
There's a good side and there's a dark

(03:11:18):
side just like Star Wars Too long kind
of how about this one?
I think you'll like this one.
You guys are freaks.
How about that?
That's pretty good There's nothing very complimentary about
the show.
Oh You would how about just fun and
humor?
No, no good.
Okay.
So what are your AI generated?
I so my AI generated I got to

(03:11:41):
Any better the show can't be any better
than that Yeah, how can I beat that
where's the yo-yo yo, what's up I'm
still working on it Mimi's actually working on
it too and she can't It's not as
easy as it looks Can some of our
hip-hop trolls just send me a yo

(03:12:02):
-yo yo, what's up, so I can just
What up, yeah, so we can get this
off our plates, please great show is the
other one great show boys Yeah, I think
I think this is obviously complimentary the show
can't be any better than that I mean,
that's you have to go with that.
It's kind of self-serving and kind of

(03:12:23):
pathetic because yeah Yeah, not pathetic the result
you yes Bob you're saying it's not pathetic.
You're saying it's pathetic because it's AI generated
It is the results of a 100 billion
dollar per company Think about the money we
save there you go I'm

(03:12:56):
gonna do an off-handed tip of the
day.
That's not the tip of the day Just
said just a suggestion for people like this
shop at Costco.
Mm-hmm the grass-fed Butter in the
green packaging.
Yes, Tina loves that stuff Is excellent.
Yes, I think is as good as the
importance butters it she loves that stuff Yes,

(03:13:20):
all the carnivores love that stuff they just
eat it out of the pack It's a
great product Carnivores man, the carnivore diet.
It's like they eat butter like a stick
looks like you put just there's a piece
of bag I got a butter popsicle.
That's pretty much Side tip side tip of

(03:13:43):
the day.
Okay.
Sorry perfect glass Though I'm telling you this
company hopes It's a there's a cleaning product
again a cleaning product company, but I'm telling
you hopes perfect line of Cleaners and there's
a bunch of them perfect glasses the one
I'm going to mention here, but there's also
a perfect sink Which is a stunner?

(03:14:05):
perfect sink will hopes is the brand a
very Advanced product they're using the I don't
know what tech they're using but they can
Polish stainless steel sinks with this hopes perfect
sink You wouldn't believe what you end up
with it stainless steel the funny thing about

(03:14:25):
stainless steel is stainless steel stains and Stainless
steel stains easily.
Yes, and this is for stainless steel sinks
Not no perfect glasses for windows.
Okay.
Yeah, perfect sink is for stainless steel sinks
But they also have a stainless steel perfect
stainless steel for other appliances that are made

(03:14:45):
out of stainless steel Wow, but the hopes
the entire hopes line of cleaning products is
World-class and for example, the perfect glass
is not like Windex which you know Windex
It's like they've been coasting for years on
their ammonia base It's no good Windex, you
know Windex here in Texas All the the

(03:15:06):
Mexicans use Windex for everything Yeah, you got
a scrape it's got a lot of ammonia
and it does clean Yeah, no you you
got a cut but if we're glasses it
for glass, it doesn't clean Well, it doesn't
really do the trick hopes.
I'm going to get some Tina's always complaining
about the glass always Well, then she'll love
perfect glass perfect glass from hopes hopes perfect

(03:15:27):
glass.
I am do they have it for toilet
bowls?
Well, they already did the toilet bowl with
Lysol That's right Maybe was a competing product.
I'm not doing any more toilet bowl stuff.
Actually.
I talked to Mimi about these suggestions She
had another toilet bowl suggestions.
No, where's Mimi's Mimi?
Get your head out of the toilet bowl.

(03:15:48):
We got to stop this These are serious
tips of the day.
Check it out a tip of the day.
Not that no agenda fun calm And Sometimes
Created by Dana Brunetti Wow But these are
good tips.
I mean we actually wind up buying some

(03:16:09):
of this stuff because we trust you You're
a trustworthy guy.
I am I'm very trustworthy.
I wanted to do a series of books
called honest John Ha ha Right after the
Podfather Awards the microphone company the vinegar book
and many other great thing, you know what?
Why don't we just do another show on

(03:16:30):
Thursday?
Why don't we try that?
There's an idea.
Let's do that.
At least we can get that done.
We can get that produced Thank you to
everybody who helps produce this show Monetarily and
otherwise it is all highly valued and highly
appreciated Coming up next on the no agenda
stream or in your modern podcast app random
thoughts That's another good show.

(03:16:50):
All of these shows are good and no
agenda stream.
It's just got great shows also Excellent and
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long as people understand what that means in

(03:17:13):
the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from
Northern Silicon Valley where I remain.
I'm John C.
Dvorak.
We'll talk to you on Thursday That will
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Express

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I Hear your
virtue signaling coming back and slap you in
the face like a wet salmon The wheels
on the omnibus go round and round round

(03:18:38):
and round round and round The wheels on
the omnibus go round and round with all
the EU clown I would argue that the
new Jesus Christ of our era are Steve
Jobs and Elon Musk.
That's not true.
He's incompetent.
Elon Musk, aka real life Iron Man.
He's a Nazi.
He's a thief.

(03:18:58):
An immigrant to this country cemented his status.
He's a Nazi.
A Nazi.
Musk is doing things that may revolutionize transportation
and climate change.
That's not true.
When somebody as staggeringly rich and staggeringly intelligent

(03:19:19):
as Elon Musk talks, people listen.
He's incompetent.
He's a thief.
He's a Nazi.
A Nazi.
As a leader in science and technology whose
name may indeed belong alongside those of Edison
and Jobs, Elon Musk is incompetent in his

(03:19:39):
position.
Put another way, Elon Musk today showed the
world how it's done.
You played a video of a town hall
as though it's evidence of some broad anger
that's out there, and it's not.

(03:20:00):
We are mobilizing in New York.
We have people going to the Republican districts.
You just said you're organizing town halls in
red districts.
Going after these Republicans who are voting for
this.
You don't actually have to wait for them.
You can hold that town hall.
They organized it.
They get loud.
They get viral moments.
You schedule it.
You invite them.

(03:20:20):
If they come, that's great.
But if they don't come, have an empty
chair.
Hundreds of Hoosiers gathered today at the downtown
library for an empty chair town hall.
This is a long, relentless fight that we
fight every day.

(03:20:41):
And I am confident that we will bring
Trump's popularity, numbers and strength down.
What we're seeing when we do this is
that these are sold out.
People want to come.
People want to be involved in the process
right now.

(03:21:06):
Our party is not that organized.
You can try to organize town halls.
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