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No Agenda Episode 1757 - "Word Veto"

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(00:00):
The whole thing is staged.
Adam Curry, John C.
Dvorak.
It's Sunday, April 20th, 2025.
This year award-winning give-all nation media
assassination episode 1757.
This is no agenda.
He is reason.
And we're broadcasting live from the heart of
the Texas hill country here in FEMA region
number 6.
Good morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

(00:22):
And from northern Silicon Valley where everybody's saying
happy Easter, I'm John C.
Dvorak.
This is Crackpot and Cosgill in the audience.
I almost didn't make it.
I almost didn't make it.
Jeez.
I got COVID.
I got COVID.
I picked up COVID in Holland.

(00:45):
Oh, did you pick up something on the
way back?
Yeah, COVID.
You didn't pick up COVID.
Well, everyone says it's COVID.
There must be COVID.
I'm probably dying of the COVID.
You sound terrible.
Yeah, thank you.
There's a cough button you have.
I think you're just doing this for dramatic
purposes.
Hello?

(01:05):
See, now when I hit the cough button,
then you make a big problem out of
it.
Hello?
Hello?
Hello?
Are you there?
I'm here.
Yeah, I think I picked something up at
the party.
What are the chances?
200 elites all gathered together.
One of them is going to be a
seething, illness-ridden human resource.

(01:30):
So you do have some ailment.
I do, yes.
Normally, you never show it even if you're
sick as a dog, but you do sound
a little congested.
That's the problem.
It started Thursday during our last show, and
I was using the cough button continuously.
Seriously, let's put it that way.

(01:54):
Not so much because I was coughing, but
it's just the blowing my nose, man.
It's horrible.
It's horrible.
It's horrible.
Anyway, I'm so happy that it gives you
such joy.
It's funny.
It's not funny.
It's not funny.
I mean, I could have called it-

(02:15):
Gallivanting around the world wondering why you're sick.
I'm not wondering why I'm sick, but I
have a question for you.
Forget about SOA.
No.
It is 420.
Yeah.
A lot going on in this day.
And the question I have for you is,
are you now currently, at this moment, under

(02:36):
martial law?
Oh, that's right.
Today is martial law day.
Yes, I am.
I mean, it's 113- I already forgot
about that stupidity.
No, I hadn't forgot about it because it
was even like a 10-minute topic on
The Hill.

(02:56):
What's the girl's name?
Crystal Ball?
Crystal Ball.
Crystal Ball.
That's her name, right?
No, she's not on The Hill.
They do an independent podcast now.
No, I thought this was on The Hill.
Well, The Hill, no.
She used to be on The Hill, but
she's not on The Hill anymore.
Well, she was all beside herself.
And, you know, first of all, I mean,

(03:17):
I got to play these two clips because
she was so, I mean, the big-
I'm glad you have clips about this because
I completely, you know, I completely dropped the
ball on this.
Well, you think that I would think that
Easter is the most important thing to think
about today, or that it's 420 day, or
Hitler's birthday.
But no, I was watching for martial law
because we've been assured today would be martial

(03:41):
law.
And here's the setup.
By the way, we've been- I'm sorry,
but we've been assured by these various screwballs
with no foundation.
Well, she actually lays out- now I
understand the foundation of this thing.
Then the big chyron said, 420 martial law,
420, 4 slash 20 martial law.

(04:02):
I'm like, it's Easter.
I don't- just on its face that
this president would declare martial law on Easter
is highly unlikely.
421, maybe, maybe, maybe it'll happen tomorrow.
But no, not on 420.
But the reason why is because the resistance
is growing.

(04:23):
Resistance is swelling.
Both at the grassroots- I'm sorry, it's
swelling.
Swelling.
It's swelling.
The resistance is swelling.
Resistance is swelling, both at the grassroots and
the institutional level.
Hundreds of thousands of people have turned out
to Bernie and AOC's fight oligarchy tour, including
large crowds in red states like Idaho.
Millions turned out coast to coast as part

(04:44):
of the hands-off protests.
Members of Congress cannot hold a town hall
without being flooded by outraged constituents.
Universities are beginning to fight back rather than
get rolled.
Law firms are starting to think twice about
their capitulation bribery deals.
Democrats have moved from Cory Booker's show speech
to Chris Van Hollen's genuinely courageous flight to
tangle with Bukele in El Salvador.

(05:05):
The courts are becoming increasingly assertive.
And bond traders are apparently the actual deep
state.
Now, how will Trump respond to this rapid
political shift and mounting backlash?
It won't be by backing down or changing
course.
It will be by cracking down.
Oh yeah.
It will be by cracking down.
That's right.
Martial law.
He's going to put military on the street
so that he can ship everybody off.

(05:27):
They're going to become the Amazon of shipping
human resources out of the country.
Some of this project, of course, is already
well in motion.
He's used supposed national emergencies and national security
threats already to claim extraordinary powers by his
terrorist program and by invoking the Alien Enemies
Act.
But there's more.
On April 20th, pursuant to an executive order

(05:47):
that Trump signed on day one of his
presidency, he is going to receive a report
from Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and fascist Barbie
Kristi Noem about whether or not- Hey,
we pioneered A.G. Barbie.
I have to say a fascist Barbie may
be better.
Well, fascist Barbie refers to Kristi Noem.
A.G. Barbie refers to- Oh, that's

(06:08):
right.
It's Pam Bondi.
Yes.
Who do we have as Ken?
Is it VP Ken?
Hegseth it would be Ken.
Hegseth.
Hegseth Ken.
Hegseth and fascist Barbie Kristi Noem about whether
or not he should invoke the Insurrection Act
of 1807.
Now, such an invocation would open up extraordinary
powers for this president to use our military

(06:29):
in our streets against our citizens.
There it is.
You see, this is what this whole thing
was about.
It's about this report that is supposed to
be delivered today because reports always come on
Easter Sunday.
Yeah, because people love working on the holidays.
There's nothing like it.
And so there's going to be this report
from Hegseth Ken.

(06:50):
Or maybe just call him Ken Hegseth.
No, Hegseth Ken is better.
And Hegseth Ken is going to say, we're
ready, Mr. President.
We're ready to start rousing citizens on the
street.
Of course, there are any number of ways
in which he might deploy that power.
Perhaps he'd deploy the military to the border.
Part of an expanded militarized immigration response.
Militarized.
Acting head of ICE has mused about ramping

(07:11):
up mass deportation on an industrial scale.
Even fantasizing about fleets of trucks scooping up
immigrants the way that Amazon efficiently delivers packages
on a mass scale.
Quote, we need to get better at treating
this like a business.
Acting ICE director Todd Lyons said, explaining he
wants to see a deportation process like Amazon
Prime, but with human beings.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

(07:33):
Trump and the Republicans are pushing for a
much larger budget for ICE and for private
prison contractors to run detention centers.
But if you really want to go for
industrial scale, it would be hard to beat
the military.
Now, even if you are hawkish on immigration,
think of the genuinely evil way this administration
has already conducted itself.
Do you feel comfortable handing them the tools
for a militarized industrial scale human removal and

(07:56):
incarceration system?
Do you really think the horror is going
to be just reserved to the criminals, the
gang members, when we already know that 90
% of the men that they sent to
a slave labor torture dungeon were innocent, like
Amazon Prime, but for fascism, I guess.
90%?
Yes, 90%.

(08:17):
You can tell by looking at them.
I hope that you can find more of
those TikTokers who, when they say, oh, it's
coming, it wasn't 420, it's going to be
430.
Oh, yeah, they're going to move the date.
But this is the insanity that we've come
to in our mainstream media messaging system, which

(08:37):
is still, it's still live.
It's still hobbling along.
The morning shows this morning, the Sunday morning
shows, all filled with Easter cheer and filled
with Chris Van Hollen, who went to El
Salvador because he is so brave.
He's so brave.
And he talked to, what was this guy

(08:58):
doing not in a jail, by the way?
Yeah, they went to a hotel, they were
having mojitos.
Margaritas, margaritas.
The guy was dressed with a backward hat
and a Hawaiian shirt.
What was this?
And so they brought a photographer along, so
they took some photo ops.

(09:21):
And it was ridiculous.
And the fact that this, this is beyond
me.
Well, so he was on every one of
the top three shows, Face the Nation, Meet
the Press, and This Week.
And they all had the exact same script,
exact same questions, and the exact same answers.
So let's listen to CBS.

(09:44):
This is basically a three by three morning
show.
It is, it is.
But I will not appropriate your jingle.
Senator, thank you so much for joining us
this morning.
You're just back from El Salvador.
And I want to pick up where we
left off with Camilo.
Because the White House is using these new
details to build its case that Abrigo Garcia

(10:05):
should stay where he is and not come
back to the US.
Your response?
Well, Weijia, it's good to be with you.
And his case is of course separate.
Who's Weijia?
Is she new?
Weijia?
Weijia.
It's a Weijia board.
Weijia, Weijia Zhang.
Weijia Zhang.
Well, Weijia, it's good to be with you.
And his case is of course separate than
the case of the Venezuelans that you were
talking about earlier.

(10:26):
And in Abrigo Garcia's case, the Trump administration
admitted in federal court that he'd been wrongfully
abducted and sent to a prison in El
Salvador.
But rather than fixing the problem as the
Supreme Court- Wait, wait.
So he's quoting them and somebody came out
and said he was wrongfully abducted?

(10:48):
I don't think so.
No.
Well, of course not.
They said we made a clerical error, but
he was no good anyway.
Put him on the Amazon Express.
The Supreme Court has said in terms of
his need to use their efforts to facilitate
his release, they reprimanded the lawyer who made

(11:10):
that case.
So they need to bring him home.
Now, with respect to these other facts, I
say put up or shut up in court.
This was his continuous thing.
So on all the networks, put up or
shut up in court.
Here's NBC, meet the press.
You know, while you were in El Salvador,
the White House was counterprogramming, effectively releasing information

(11:31):
about- Counterprogramming?
That's interesting.
So they're aware of the distraction of the
week and how it works?
Counterprogramming?
The White House was counterprogramming, effectively releasing information
about Mr. Abrego's Garcia's background, including a police
report suggesting he's a member of MS-13,
details about a restraining order from his wife

(11:52):
who ultimately dropped the matter, and a police
report in which an officer said he suspected
Mr. Abrego Garcia may have been involved in
human trafficking.
Now, he's never been charged with a crime,
but is his past complicating the broader argument
that you are trying to make here about
due process?
Well, what Donald Trump is trying to do

(12:13):
is change the subject.
Let's make no bones about that, right?
No bones about it.
This subject is the Trump administration's ignoring a
Supreme Court order 9-0 to facilitate his
return because they admitted in court, they, the
Trump administration, that he'd been wrongfully detained.
Now, what I have said is Donald Trump
and his administration need to put up or

(12:35):
shut up in court.
There it is, put up or shut up
in court.
Can ABC go for the hat trick, Jonathan
Karl?
Are you concerned about your defense of somebody?
Obviously, everybody in this country, even those undocumented
immigrants, have rights.
But are you concerned about standing so forcefully
with somebody that has, you know, at least

(12:57):
a questionable record?
I am not defending the man.
I'm defending the rights of this man to
due process.
And the Trump administration has admitted in court
that he was wrongfully detained and wrongfully deported.

(13:17):
My mission and my purpose is to make
sure that we uphold the rule of law.
Because if we take it away from him,
we do jeopardize it for everybody else.
Everybody.
I do want to point out, Karl, yes,
the Trump administration is trying to change the
story.
They're trying to detract attention.
Here's where they should put their facts.
Let me guess.
They should put it before the court.
They should put up or shut up in

(13:37):
court.
I mean, come on.
Does nobody have an exclusive anymore these days?
This guy who sounds like a nervous wreck.
He sounds like, you know, a character, actually.
He's shaking his voice.
You know, he's doing this as a stunt
to run for president.
This guy's running for president?

(13:57):
Yeah.
Oh.
Oh, boy.
Well, you pretty much summarized it right there.
Let's do a triple shot here of Margarita
Gate.
So did you walk into a trap, though?
I mean, they bring him to your hotel.
It's a trap.
He's in civilian clothes.

(14:17):
And you met with him.
We saw the images that you put out.
Of meeting with him, you know, at the
beginning of the meeting.
You're sitting there.
You're drinking water and talking to the guy
in the hotel lobby, I assume.
Water?
And then at some point, they bring in
these, like, you know, glasses that look like
margarita glasses.

(14:39):
What margarita glasses?
It wasn't a trap.
My goal was to meet with him.
How come he wasn't in the- I
don't understand.
Why was he not in the El Salvadorian
jail with his head shaved bald?
This is the part I don't understand.
The whole thing is staged.
Yeah.
And make sure I could tell his wife

(15:00):
and family he was okay.
That was my goal.
And I achieved that goal.
You're absolutely right that the Salvadorian- That
wasn't his goal.
No.
His goal was what?
To run for president.
His goal, he said at the beginning of
this whole trek that he was going to
go there and get him and bring him
back.
That was his goal.
That was the goal, yes.

(15:21):
Yes.
Well, it seems like they could have just
hopped onto the jet and taken off.
I don't think it was an issue.
The guy was not detained.
No, he was hanging out in the hotel
lobby.
Hanging out in the hotel lobby.
I achieved that goal.
You're absolutely right that the Salvadorian authorities tried
to deceive people.
They tried to make it look like he
was in paradise.
They actually wanted to have the meeting by

(15:43):
the hotel pool originally.
I wonder who really wanted to have the
meeting.
The producers were probably like, hey, this is
a much better shot over here by the
pool.
We can all be outside.
Really?
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
We had to negotiate that.
They wanted to put me right overlooking the
pool.
In fact, if you had a different angle
on the camera shot, you would see the
pool.

(16:03):
Because they did write that.
Bukele put out a statement saying miraculously risen
from the death camps and torture and sipping
margaritas with you.
I mean, they were really trying to make
you look like you were hanging out with
somebody that they say is a gang member.
Oh, no.
Let's see what CBS.
We just.
I want to show our viewers some pictures
that the president.

(16:25):
Do you believe that this was the number
one topic on all three Sunday news shows?
This is what blows me away.
There's a lot going on.
We are under martial law.
People of El Salvador.
Bukele posted showing you and Abrego Garcia sitting
around what appears to be margaritas.

(16:46):
You have blamed him for trying to deceive
people with props.
After he posted those images, he also posted,
quote, I love chess.
Do you have any concerns that the Salvadoran
government used you as a pawn to make
their point that Abrego Garcia is doing well

(17:07):
and that he should stay where he is?
Oh, I see what she did there.
She said chess pawn.
OK, no.
In fact, the El Salvadoran government tried really
hard not to let me see him.
But I think they realized that that was
not a good look at the end of
the day.
I had press conferences in El Salvador with

(17:29):
local press and made the point that El
Salvador was.
Wait a minute.
How can there be local press under that
dictatorship of Bukele?
This doesn't make any sense.
Violating international law by not allowing anyone to
reach him, not his wife, not his lawyers,
nobody.
They realized that was a bad look.
So I'm glad I met him.

(17:49):
That was the purpose of my visit.
Yeah, but the glass.
Wait, hold on.
He just changed.
The purpose is different again.
It's perfect.
No, it's perfect.
He keeps changing it.
A new purpose.
Nobody.
They realized that was a bad look.
So I'm glad I met him.
That was the purpose of my visit.
You're right.

(18:10):
They go to great lengths to deceive people.
And that's what you saw because they.
Those evil Bitcoin people in El Salvador.
These government guys essentially told the waiters to
bring these drinks that appear to look like
margaritas to the table.
No one touched them.
I can go into the details about how
their whole scheme was set up.

(18:30):
But the reality is, if you look at
the photos, when I first sat down and
the ones at the end, you can see
that that was all staged.
They're trying to create the impression that this
is a guy in paradise.
When in fact, he's been in one of
the most notorious prisons in the world.
But his head wasn't shaven.
So he was not in that prison.
Here's the last one.

(18:51):
Kristen Welk, NBC.
Absolutely not.
They had no intention of letting me meet
with Abrego Garcia until they felt the pressure.
They felt the pressure from people saying, why
are you, you know, complicit in this illegal
scheme?
Why are you denying his wife, his lawyer,
anybody the opportunity to speak with him?

(19:11):
So my mission was to be able to
say that he is at least alive.
That was his mission.
A third mission.
A third mission.
The fourth.
That's the fourth.
That's the fourth mission.
He had a lot of missions, man.
You're right.
It's the lengths that both, you know, the
El Salvadorian president, Bukele, and Donald Trump will

(19:32):
go to to see people are boundless, right?
In this case, they did order the waiters,
the government people, to bring these two glasses
that, you know, appear to be margaritas.
I have no idea.
We didn't touch them.
And they tried to manipulate it to make
it look like Mr. Abrego Garcia's margarita had

(19:54):
been drunk.
In other words, the liquid was lower.
But they screwed me.
Hey, John, if you and I were going
to try and make this look like paradise,
I think we would have chosen some different
tactics.
Like I'd have girls in bikinis walking around.
You know, we'd have party lights, party people,

(20:14):
DJ thumping in the background.
Exactly.
No, no.
No, those stupid El Salvadorians.
We're going to put liquid in the glass.
Don't even know if it's salt or sugar.
And we're going to make one a little
lower so everyone will think that he's been
drinking it.
Screwed up in their scheme.
Because if you look at the rims of
the glasses, I don't know if it's salt
or sugar.
But there's no gap.

(20:35):
Who puts sugar on their margarita?
Is that a thing even?
There are drinks.
There are other drinks.
The whole thing is a joke.
Yeah, it is.
Nine seconds.
So nobody touched the margarita.

(20:55):
Stop.
The fact is that you're right.
These morning shows, this is their story.
We have a borderline bombing of Iran.
We have the crisis where Netanyahu is getting
shut down.
We have all kinds of – we have
the big protests over the weekend.
We have all these things going on.

(21:15):
And this publicity stunt.
Yes.
Because this guy is running for president, or
he thinks he is.
He doesn't have a prayer because he's a
moron.
Is the top of the news because obviously
somebody is coordinating this.
And it's not any of the news directors.
It's Chuck Schumer again.

(21:36):
I don't know.
The whole thing is stupid.
You know what?
First thing I thought was maybe the CIA
or somebody.
But once you mention Chuck Schumer, you're probably
right because it's so lame.
Yeah, that has to be a Schumerism.
A Schumer scheme.
It has to be.
It's so dumb.
And then, oh, they all do this.

(21:58):
Who cares?
I mean, we do, of course, because it's
just so stupid.
I'm going to be talking to a high
school in a couple of weeks, and they
want me to come in and talk about
propaganda.
Well, man.
Wait, wait.
Stop, stop, stop.
Yes.
What?
Yeah, this guy down the street, he teaches

(22:18):
a class in media communications.
It's an advanced placement class to, I guess,
10th, 11th graders.
And he wanted me to come in and
talk about propaganda.
I said, are you sure they're going to
be able to handle it?
Because they're going to see stuff they've never
seen before because they just never watch that
stuff.

(22:39):
You have to show this dumb stuff.
And then the senators all saying the same
thing.
Basically, I'm going to come in, play a
bunch of super cuts, say I'm the pod
father, drop my mic, and I'm out.
And that's what it's going to be.
And yell, go podcasting.
Go podcasting.
He said, the kids are really excited.
These kids don't know who I am.

(23:00):
Well, they know what podcasting is.
Kids are excited.
Who's this old fart coming in here?
No, no, he's not an old fart.
No, he's a young guy.
No, you.
Thank you.
Who's this boomer you brought in, Teach?
Teach.
Teach.
Who's ever used that term in the last

(23:21):
50 years?
Only a boomer.
Only a boomer.
Teach.
Oh, man.
All right.
So there is some very interesting news.
And I'm going to play it in.
Before you go on with these clips, would

(23:42):
anything interesting happen on the way back from
Amsterdam?
You usually have a story about going through
customs or some foul up or a last
ditch thing that you saw when you left
and you didn't realize this was that bad
over there.
And how's your daughter doing?
Okay.
Well, thank you for asking.

(24:02):
My daughter is doing very well.
And so I told her, I'm going to
see you on Friday.
Let's go to a nice restaurant.
Which turned out to be Japanese fusion.
We had seven courses.
It took four hours for them to serve
this thing.
That was a little long.
But before that, she arranged for us to
have a VR experience.

(24:26):
And it's a franchise called Zero Latency.
And imagine a Quonset hut in the middle
of South Rotterdam.
And so they've got a big room.
And you have walls.
Quonset hut.
It was a Quonset hut.
But a pretty high ceiling.

(24:46):
Quonset hut.
It was a Quonset hut.
I'm telling you.
It was open on one side.
And so you had this really big room.
And it has kind of a black floor
and walls with some stripes on it.
And so you play as a team.
The three of us.

(25:06):
You can do up to eight players.
You get your VR goggles.
You get your weapon.
Who's the third?
Oh, her fiance.
Kevin.
Oh, okay.
Kevin.
We like Kevin.
And so then you go in.
And then it takes a second to sync
up.
And we did the zombie apocalypse VR experience.
So you see each other.

(25:29):
You all look, of course.
You have an avatar.
It's photorealistic.
It has very much like a Doom feeling
to it.
Only higher resolution.
Do you remember the game Doom?
Another Boomer reference, everybody.
It was incredibly realistic.
Is it more like Doom or more like

(25:49):
Duke Nukem?
Oh, much more like Duke Nukem.
I mean, it was an advance.
But the, you know, it's basically first person
shooter, except you got your team.
You can switch guns.
You know, you see a gun.
You walk over toward it.
You grab the gun.
You got a plasma gun.
You can switch between, you know, grenades.
And you get a gatling gun.

(26:10):
Is there anything you're doing in the Quonset
hut that you can't do at home?
I got to tell you.
Well, it's big.
You need the space.
Because you're walking around, you know.
You're actually walking around.
Oh, yeah.
You're walking.
You move.
The thing that's kind of weird is, you
know, you want to walk up to the

(26:31):
elevator.
And it has a ramp.
And, of course, if you actually try to
walk up, like you're going to step on
the ramp, you're going to fall on your
face.
So you learn pretty quickly.
You just walk.
And then the ramp kind of adjusts to
you.
But it only took three minutes to get
used to it.
It was incredibly real.
So real that, you know, the zombies are
coming at you.
And then you hear in the headphones, there's

(26:51):
one gnawing at you behind you.
You turn around.
You blast him with the grenade.
And I actually got a physical response to
this.
I was tired after 30 minutes.
That was a tough day of fighting zombies.
Oh, God.
And I thought, this will never fly for
anything but this.
You can't live in this world.

(27:12):
It's very disassociative.
Wait, wait.
You said it won't fly for anything but
this?
Yeah, but games.
Zombie fighting?
Yeah, games, games.
It won't work for touring Paris?
No, no, no, no, no.
No.
Of course not.
No.

(27:33):
So I can't go on a cruise down
the canals in Venice?
Yeah, but you won't get the wind in
your face.
You know, zombies is already kind of a
surreal experience.
You don't need to have anything else.
Okay, so what you're predicting is it's a
dead end.
It's a dead end.
This is fun.
I mean, it's a great.
It's a fun dead end.
It's a fun, show title, fun dead end.

(27:56):
Yeah, that's basically what that is.
But to say that this would be like
the metaverse is going to be cool?
No, no.
You can't do more than a half hour
of this stuff.
And then you're just like, ah.
And then the thing is heavy on your
head.
But more importantly, I got a lot of
emails from people about my report from the

(28:18):
last show when I was in Amsterdam.
Yeah.
And it's interesting.
I think I was pretty clear telling everybody
that I was amongst the media elites and
that Taxi Eric, you know, he's the guy
that is saying, no, no, no.
We think Trump should have a statue.
Because I got a lot of similar emails
saying, you need to get out of Amsterdam.

(28:40):
It's not like that everywhere.
We're all against this, the global elites.
We love Trump.
I thought it was pretty clear what you
said.
You know, with a bunch of elitists that
were completely off the rails, and Taxi Eric
was a kind of foundational.
And then connected to reality in some funny

(29:02):
way, even though he almost got me killed.
Yeah, well, then, you know, that was, anyway.
So, but what I get from everybody is
the same thing.
The people who listen to No Agenda, and
I'm sure that, you know, there's other people
who don't listen to No Agenda.
Other groups who are all in.

(29:23):
But everybody is just talking amongst themselves.
No one's doing anything.
Not dissimilar to the United States.
Until Trump stood up and said, hey, this
nonsense is over.
So, everybody thinks it's crazy, it's no good.
But meanwhile, even this new government, the new
cabinet just steamrolls over everybody.
They get the same old, same old.

(29:44):
So, there's two emails I pulled out that
I want to share.
First one is from Nathan.
He says, Adam, as you know, Amsterdam is
extremely left.
Everyone is scared and angry.
In my class, this prevails as well.
I'm in the second of the Cygnus Gymnasium.
So, he's probably about 17.
When I ask why they are angry, they
say, Trump, Musk.

(30:05):
But they don't really know.
They're afraid of Trump becoming a dictator.
Usually their reason is that he is shutting
down all the institutions and putting pressure on
the legal system.
Real facts or examples?
Well, they never have those.
The most left voters also think a European
army is a good idea.
How it is regulated with taxation via your
carbon footprint is perfect.

(30:27):
These people will have to change themselves.
Now they only vote for the left.
With this, they think that their sins on
climate will be redeemed.
Even people closer to me find it hard
to keep thinking for themselves.
Family, who my father and I try to
explain as much, we can also panic.
Of course, because they can only see the
M5M, I find it increasingly difficult to restrain

(30:49):
myself.
And seeing people I love get so worked
up and frightened, everything they try seems to
succeed.
That would be the crazy people.
We as awakened people have to try and
help in some way.
Well, of course, this is exactly the problem.
No one is really helping.
But the one that really got me, because
this is universal.
And I've adjusted my cultural trauma.

(31:11):
It's just like COVID.
Europe never got out of COVID.
And to some degree, neither did the United
States.
People who are still mad about things, who
hate Musk, hate Trump.
They're the same people.
It's the same argument.
Vax, no vax.

(31:31):
Lockdown, no lockdown.
Social distancing, no social distancing.
Masks, no masks.
It's the same.
People never got out of it.
So it's just a replacement.
There's tons of masked people everywhere.
So this came from Beth, and she is
an expat in the U.K. And what's

(31:54):
interesting is this is the degree to which
she has been assimilated into the system.
And she says, I'm a dual U.K.
citizen, been in the U.K. for 15
years.
My husband is British.
Honestly, I love the U.K. It's definitely
my home.
And in spite of the growing dystopia, my
situation is comfortable and good.

(32:16):
Here's my report.
Now, remember, she likes it there.
Her situation is comfortable and good.
So she goes on.
I saw the writing on the wall years
ago and left social media entirely just to
be safe.
I'm a major TERF, and I knew my
views would get me in trouble if I
didn't.
I have a skilled but blue-collar job,

(32:38):
and basically everyone on the factory floor would
agree with the no-agenda perspective.
A few are fans of Trump, others conservative,
but hate his style.
I voted for— Okay, let's stop.
I want to make sure that everyone out
there knows that TERF, we haven't used that
term for a while, trans-exclusionary radical feminist.
Yeah.

(32:58):
No trans women.
I think everyone knows what TERF is.
But okay.
I don't know.
No, I'm this good.
I voted for Bobby the Op because I'm
a coward.
And this way, when I'm with someone with
TDS—you could also say you're a libertarian.
I'm a coward.
This way, when I'm with someone with TDS,
I can say things like, well, I never
voted for him, but surely such and such

(33:19):
policy might actually turn out to be good.
Remember, she's comfortable and loves her life.
Management is another story.
My boss thought Trump created NAFTA.
And he's a big racist, of course.
I get a lot of comments from educated
people who assume that I also have Trump
derangement syndrome, which I do not.
Another thing I've heard multiple British people say

(33:41):
is that they thought we were supposed to
help others.
But Trump only cares about himself and how
they had to explain this to their children.
I live in Oxfordshire and work in an
affluent village but live in a very average
town.
Nobody has stopped driving their Teslas.
Our friend group, bless them, are quite intelligent.
People who haven't got a clue about U

(34:01):
.S. politics.
One friend is still obsessed with Trump being
a Russian asset and mentions it a lot.
Another friend thought that abolishing the Department of
Education meant no more public schools in the
whole country.
They seem to get most of their ideas
about America from Reddit.
Of course, they still believe in safe and

(34:22):
effective.
As for free speech arrests, they are both
ignorant and dismissive.
It's not happening.
And even if it was, then people must
have deserved it.
Seems to be the opinion.
Pretty grim.
The elder generation is split.
My husband's aunt, who is a lovely woman,
is terrified by what she views as a
rejection of the mechanisms which brought peace to
post-war Europe.

(34:43):
Trump mates are sick to her stomach.
My lovely work mom in the second half
of her 70s also hates Trump but is
disgusted by the way the country is going.
Namely, she doesn't feel safe in Reddingtown anymore
due to dodgy Turkish barbers popping up everywhere
and loads of men just hanging around.
Her daughter lives in Dover.
She tells me all the time how many

(35:03):
boats of illegal migrants come in every week.
We all know we aren't allowed to talk
about this stuff.
My own town is very average.
On Saturday, you'll see families and people of
all walks of life in the open-air
shopping center area.
But recently, I was in town on a
Friday afternoon.
It was a different vibe.
Loads of men just hanging around.
My hairdresser told me about men harassing her

(35:24):
young apprentices, 16 years old.
I hate this vibe.
Thanks for a great show, says Beth, who
I will remind you started off by saying,
I love the UK.
My life is comfortable and good.
Beth, you need to reassess your life.
This is not comfortable and good.
This is the lobster getting boiled in the

(35:44):
pot.
That's exactly right.
Yes, this is the slow, where you put
it in and you turn the heat up.
I realize, just look at all this nonsense
of people arguing.
You sent me a video this morning of
Liberty Lockdown podcast, of people arguing about Douglas
Murray and Dave Smith and Joe Rogan and

(36:07):
Ian.
What's his name?
I don't even know half of these people.
I'm like, I am so happy.
I'm really happy that we do the Noah
Jenner Show under the constraints we have self
-imposed on ourselves as it comes to expansion,
growth, and finances.

(36:28):
Because we are the only ones who just
have, there's no reason for us to say
anything but exactly what we feel.
I think everyone else's audience captured.
I think there's a huge fear of being
deplatformed by the group.
Not by government.
Whatever this group is.

(36:49):
By the group, yes.
We've talked about this before.
That's why I put the word internecine in
there.
Yes, I even put that in the show
notes so people can, let me see, I
wrote it down here.
Internecine, I-N-T-E-R-N-E
-C-I-N-E, relating to or involving
conflict within a group, it comes from fought

(37:15):
to the death.
Anyway, there is a real problem going on
everywhere.
And the United States is not immune to
it.
And I really, truly think that this is
still COVID trauma.
That people just want to fight with each

(37:36):
other about something.
Because we're still all mad.
We're all still, you and I aren't.
But we're mad.
We're hurt.
We're angry.
We feel discriminated.
We feel, you know, it doesn't matter what
side you're on.
And President Trump just triggers it all time
and time again.
He's very good at it.
And I think that he probably egged on

(37:57):
this whole 420 martial law thing just to
get people crazy.
He still seems to kind of be doing
that stuff.
You know, there is a phenomenon.
This just came to mind.
Bill Ziff, one of the first and early
billionaires I ever knew, ran to Davis.

(38:19):
How many do you know these days?
How many do you hang out with?
I don't hang out with any.
Well, I hang out with one.
But it's beside the point.
But Ziff, I used to hang out with
Ziff a little bit.
But the thing about him is that he
was always saying one thing and doing another
in certain kinds of funny ways.
And somebody who really knew him well and
worked for him forever during the early days

(38:41):
of his publishing empire, he says that Ziff
had this sick way of matching people up
and putting people together that he knew would
cause a conflict.
And he believed that Ziff thought it was
fun.
It was like he was like just amused

(39:01):
himself.
It's like the king is, let's put these
two people together and see what happens.
And it was, I think, from this extreme
amount of wealth he had.
He was one of the richest men in
the world at the time.
And he developed this screwball way of looking
at things and the screwball way of acting.

(39:21):
It worked out, except for the people that
were placed in these situations where they'd always
get in trouble.
And maybe Trump has got – maybe it's
something to do with the wealth.
He's really the only true billionaire.
Oh, you think it's a billionaire thing?
I'm beginning to think it might be something
because Trump is the only true billionaire.

(39:43):
Vanderbilt was never president of the United States
and other super rich people never got that
far because they never bothered.
Too much work.
I can make a mess back here by
signing checks.
But this idea of just doing little things
and moving things around like a chess game

(40:03):
and seeing what happens.
Just see what happens.
Well, let's see what happens.
I know these two people don't get along.
I wonder if Joe works for Jim if
that would be really funny.
Oh, wait, what about if Jim worked for
Joe?
That would be even funnier.
There's a movement around.
I just get this sense that something like
that might be going on by the basis
of what you just said, which might be

(40:24):
true.
Trump is triggering this, and he's doing it
in some conscious way on purpose.
Well, let's look at the next item here
on the agenda, which is clearly an art
of the deal move.
But we have to go back to three
days ago when it looked like we had
something on the table.
We had papers.

(40:45):
We were signing.
After months of delays, a minerals deal is
closer than ever.
On Thursday, Ukraine said talks with the U
.S. delivered good results.
Just hours later, the two sides signed a
so-called memorandum of intent.
I love this.
A memorandum of intent is, I would say,
completely worthless.

(41:06):
Yeah, I agree.
A memorandum of intent is the way to
kind of put the negotiations on hold because
you're going nowhere.
I'm going to write a memo that we
intend to, I don't know, continue.
Or the final agreement.
The deal would give the U.S. access
to Ukraine's mineral wealth in return for billions

(41:27):
in military aid.
Ukraine, for its part, wants strong security guarantees.
It sounds like they came up with exactly
the same deal.
Yeah, we'll protect our interests with some military
stuff.
And then Ukraine is yammering again.
But the process has been shaky.
A February signing fell through under chaotic circumstances.

(41:50):
Since then, Ukraine said that the terms have
constantly changed.
Media reports said the U.S. now has
changed repayment demands from $300 billion to $100
billion.
Hey, listen, Volodymyr, listen, listen, listen.
We're going to give you 60% discount.
All right?

(42:10):
Discount.
We go from $300 billion to $100 billion.
What are you yammering about, man?
Meanwhile, the Trump administration continued to face accusations
of echoing Putin, creating unease among Ukraine officials.
Just days ago, the U.S. envoy Steve
Whitkoff conveyed Moscow's proposal for a peace in
exchange for five Ukrainian regions.

(42:31):
I believe that Mr. Whitkoff has taken on
the strategy of the Russian side.
I think it is very dangerous.
Ukraine said it will not discuss territorial agreements
before a ceasefire, a choice they want under
U.S. security guarantees.
But so far, it's not clear how the
minerals deal would ensure Ukraine's security.

(42:55):
So I think they just redlined the original
agreement and scratched out $300 billion, said $100
billion.
OK, that's our final, final offer.
And before we get to the next round,
we have a little rest, a little pause.
It is Easter after all.
He has risen.
Tonight, in a surprise announcement, Vladimir Putin says
he's ordering a 30-hour Easter truce in

(43:16):
the war in Ukraine.
The brief ceasefire coming one day after President
Trump warned the U.S. will walk away
from stalled peace negotiations if there isn't progress
soon.
We're going to just take a pass, but
hopefully we won't have to do that.
President Zelensky tonight saying there's no trust in
words coming from Moscow, but that Ukraine is

(43:37):
open to U.S. proposals for a 30
-day ceasefire.
Another ceasefire.
So he's rolling everything back, going back to
a 30-day ceasefire, and then, of course,
we get the report that everybody has been
talking about, is where we're really at.
I think we're at the end of our
rope, people.
He's been pressing both Moscow and Kiev for

(43:57):
a truce, but so far Donald Trump has
failed in his bid to secure a ceasefire
in the Ukraine war.
On Friday, the U.S. president reiterated that
he wanted to clinch a deal quickly, but
said that the U.S. could ditch brokering
further talks unless progress is made soon.
No specific number of days, but quickly.
We want to get it done.

(44:18):
If for some reason one of the two
parties makes it very difficult, we're just going
to say you're foolish, you're fools, you're horrible
people, and we're going to just take a
pass, but hopefully we won't have to do
that.
I like this take a pass.
That's how you talk about any deal.
I'm glad you got the take a pass

(44:39):
thing.
You keep saying it.
Play this clip.
This is Ukraine, Trump, and Rubio, and this
is from PBS, and I think that they're
trying to give us a different perspective than
reality here.
The latest on the international effort to secure
a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine.
As those negotiations have stalled, there is a

(45:00):
new ultimatum from the Trump administration.
Earlier today, U.S. Secretary of State Marco
Rubio wrapped up a marathon series of talks
in Paris with both Ukrainian and top European
officials.
Rubio, on his way out, said the U
.S. may, quote, move on from trying to
broker a peace deal if progress isn't made

(45:21):
soon.
We're not going to continue with this endeavor
for weeks and months on end.
So we need to determine very quickly now,
and I'm talking about a matter of days,
whether or not this is doable over the
next few weeks.
If it is, we're in.
If it's not, then we have other priorities
to focus on as well.
In Washington, President Trump echoed that warning, but

(45:42):
stopped short of saying he's ready to walk
away.
He pushed back against the suggestion that Russia
is taking advantage of his patience.
I know when people are playing us, and
I know when they're not, and I have
to see an enthusiasm to want to end
it.
And I think I see that enthusiasm.
I think I see it from both sides.

(46:03):
But you're going to know soon.
No, nobody's playing me.
I'm trying to help.
All of this unfolded as the war grinds
on.
Russian missiles today rained down on the Ukrainian
city of Kharkiv.
Officials say one person was killed and nearly
100 others were wounded.

(46:23):
All right, what's your take?
Well, they make it sound as though Rubio
and Trump are differing opinions of things, and
it's a conflict.
Oh, really?
I didn't get that at all.
I thought, well, there's been, I've been listening
to a lot of these NPR, PBS things,
and they've been trying to promote that idea,

(46:46):
and I think it was kind of promoted
in there.
But I don't see it, because Trump's saying,
you know, we're out of here.
Sounds pretty much what Rubio says.
I have my favorite Canadian, Andrew Rosoulis, with
his analysis.
And I've played him before.
Andrew Rosoulis, he's a former war guy in

(47:07):
Canada.
Now he's a consultant.
He's a war guy.
He knows war.
You like him.
When you hear him, you'll remember.
What do you make of the news that
the U.S. may walk away from the
peace talks if it's not possible to imminently
or quickly end the war in Ukraine?
It's a very important development, but we have
to put it in context.
What happened Thursday?

(47:28):
Rubio, on his way out to the airport,
said, after having that meeting in Paris, which
included the Americans, the Europeans and the Ukrainians,
and he said, you know, if we're not
going to get a deal soon, we're walking
away.
So why did he say that?
Well, at that meeting, Vitkov, who was on
the American delegation, and he's Trump's point person

(47:49):
on this, basically went to Russia, went to
or talked to Ukrainians, talked to Europeans, and
put together what he believes is the best
possible deal for a ceasefire, a comprehensive ceasefire.
And it includes the following.
One, the Russians keep all the territory they
currently hold militarily.
Two, the Ukrainians do not get NATO.

(48:10):
Three, there are sanctions relief put in place
for Russia, but Ukraine remains sovereign.
So there was a lot of pushback from
the Ukrainians and the Europeans to this plan,
saying that it caters too much to the
Russians.
The American position is it reflects battlefield reality.
And that's where we're at.
Yeah, they don't want that.

(48:32):
The Europeans want war.
They don't want to stop.
They're all in on this.
The way I see it, and the Canadians
and the Australians.
So what happens if the U.S. walks?
Donald Trump said that ending this war would
be the feather in his cap when it
comes to foreign policy.

(48:52):
Did he actually say that?
Hey, this will be the feather in my
cap?
I don't think so.
A feat that he wanted to accomplish.
If he is out and he's negotiating...
No, he promised he would end it within
24 hours.
That's what he actually said.
But he was being ironic.
Day one.
Yeah, day one.
What does this mean?
Let me just say there's a meeting in
London next week with the same people, same

(49:15):
parties.
We will see what happens there.
It's the last ditch.
And April 30th is 100 days anniversary of
the America of Trump's presidency.
We still have that time, I believe, to
secure a deal.
So having said that, assuming there's no deal,
to answer your question, it would certainly favor
the Russians.
The Ukrainians would have to rely solely on

(49:37):
the Europeans in Canada, to what degree in
Australia.
But basically, they could not get the Patriot
missile systems.
They could not get the intelligence required.
Russia would increase the momentum it has already
on the battlefield, which is just to their
advantage.
They would increase it even furthermore.
And basically, the Ukrainians would be left with
the Europeans and Canadians to sort it out

(49:59):
themselves.
Not a very good position.
And then, of course, can the EU, can
Europe and Canada and Australia, can they fill
the gap left by those turncoat Americans?
Is this enough?
Canadians, Europeans, some other international allies, can they
fill that void if the U.S. steps
away in terms of that key military support?

(50:21):
No, they cannot.
They can sustain the Ukrainians in a defensive
mode for a while, while the Ukrainians try
to wear down the Russians and secure a
better deal than they're getting now.
That is not a highly likely outcome.
Because also, I repeat, the Americans have the
Patriot missile systems, nobody else has them, and

(50:41):
the Ukrainians need them for air defense.
And two, it's the intelligence.
Americans provide Ukrainians with targeting information that only
the Americans can provide.
So finally then, what was really needed has
already happened.
The global stage has already changed, seemingly irreversibly,

(51:02):
and back to the old ways of the
old days, of the boomer days.
What is the biggest geopolitical concern about Russia
and some of its allies, like China, like
North Korea, now that U.S. has assumed
this position?
Well, we're very clearly beyond the liberal rules
-based order of 1991 or 1945.
Pick your year.
We are back to a much more traditional

(51:23):
realpolitik, power politics international system, in which the
great powers compete against each other, sometimes politically,
economically, and militarily, when things come to that
point.
It's all a question of equilibrium and balance
of power.
And basically, the big boys set the stage,
and the smaller, weaker powers have to adjust

(51:44):
to that reality.
That, I'm afraid, is the new reality that
we're going into.
That's it?
I think that's it.
Well, I have a different take on this,
what could possibly happen if they don't go
along with Trump.
Which they should, and get this over with,
but they just seem reluctant, like you say.

(52:04):
Europeans can do more than just be defensive.
They can put their boots on the ground
in Ukraine.
They want to form an army anyway.
Let's put some German and French.
The French have been promising troops.
Macron, you know, and his wife.

(52:28):
Well put.
Put the French troops in there, and then
the Germans can put their troops in there.
Everyone can just load up, and so the
Ukrainians can have some backup, and then they
can drag this thing on for everybody.
And how do you think that's going to
work out when you get dead German, French,
and British kids coming home in body bags?
How's that going to work out in Europe?

(52:48):
That's going to be...
They're going to twist it in such a
way that, look at what these Russians have
been doing to our kids.
They're going to do what they always do.
They make it look like, oh, this is
terrible.
Now we need revenge for the dead kids.
It's doable.
They want to do it.

(53:09):
Is that a better outcome?
No, it's not a better outcome.
It's going to be a disaster, but that's
what they want to do, and there's nothing
to stop them.
That's what I said.
They want war.
We're saying the same thing.
Yeah, you said that as the premise, and
I'm just saying here's how it's going to
happen.
Oh, I sure hope not.
Well, if they don't go along with Trump,
that's exactly where it's headed.

(53:31):
There's no other way.
Well, maybe...
Because if you're telling me you're over there,
or were, and everyone's thinking the Russians are
going to march in and take over all
of Europe any minute now, we've got to
stop them somewhere, we've got to go to
Ukraine to do it, to listen to our
boys there.
People are putting go bags together, man, with
Band-Aids.
Yes, go bags.

(53:51):
With matches and Band-Aids.
That'll do the trick.
And long-wave radio receivers so they can
get the BBC World Service.
It's pathetic.
It's so crazy that people can't see what
is going on, how stupid this whole thing
is, and they've bought it hook, line, and
sinker.

(54:13):
They really have.
In general, the majority.
Not the no-agenda people.
They're saying, they're going, this is bullcrap, but
meanwhile, suit up!
No?
I really, I felt very poorly most of
the time in Europe.
I did.

(54:34):
Felt poorly.
I felt poorly.
People, you can tell the people, again, whenever
I...
Top it off, they gave you a cold.
COVID, they gave me COVID, man.
It's just like, don't you see that you've
got to stop this nonsense?
And they're still pushing climate change and the
digital ID and more taxes and federal tax.

(54:59):
Carbon taxes.
Yes, carbon taxes.
Don't ever leave that out of the picture.
Climate change taxes.
It's just more and more and more and
more.
In fact, what was I reading?
This was a good one.
Big, where did this come from?
Some university.
That man's best friend may be nature's worst
enemy.
Study on pet dog fines.

(55:21):
So dogs apparently are the worst thing for
climate.
Oh yes, this has been going, this has
been for a few weeks now, this anti
-dog thing, which I think is actually Muslim
-based.
No, I think it's tax-based, because people
are sending me these articles.
Tax dogs?
Yes, you have to pay a dog tax,
of course.
That's perfect.

(55:42):
They're not going to come and kill Fido.
They're going to send you a bill.
You know how many dogs there are?
That's a bonanza.
And people will do anything for their animals.
Not for their kids.
Suit them up, ship them off to Ukraine.
But don't touch my dog.
I'll pay the fine.
Yeah.
Dog waste contributes to pollution in waterways, inhibits

(56:03):
plant growth.
Okay.
No, I think the dog thing, I think,
is a carbon tax gambit.
Which makes sense to me.
It could be.
Yeah, I think so.
So anyway, yes, I felt just very poorly,
because I know that people aren't stupid, but
they're all going along to get along.

(56:24):
I don't want to be unpopular.
You know, they're changing the name of the
school, Michiel de Ruyter.
Now, you don't know Michiel de Ruyter, but
he traveled the world when he was 12
years old.
And then when the British Army, the Armada,
the British Navy.
His famous Dutch kid.
Famous Dutch kid.
And then when the British Navy was sailing

(56:45):
over to Holland to basically capture the whole
country, he really started up the Dutch Navy.
The Marines went out there, they sailed out,
and they kicked the British back.
Well, now that school has to change its
name to be more inclusive.
Because, you know, it doesn't represent our society

(57:07):
anymore.
It's had that name for, I don't know,
100 years.
So we've seen this template.
They just found a different George Floyd moment.
And so they want to change the name
of the school.
And they go out there, interview the parents.
Oh, yes, I think we should change the
name of the school, because it really needs
to be more inclusive.
It's not of this time anymore.

(57:28):
It's an old name.
It's not good.
And then the interviewer says, so what do
you feel that I have to do?
You should ask someone who knows more about
history.
I don't really know.
They're afraid.
They're afraid of being ostracized.
And that's certainly the Dutch way, but I
think it's also a bit of the European
way.
No, we didn't know.
We didn't know.

(57:50):
No, no.
They need to do something.
But they need somebody.
They need, well, they needed Donald Trump.
Ultimately, that's why they hate him, because they
want him.
They want someone like that to stand up
and say no, to be just that guy.

(58:11):
That's the only thing I can make of
it.
Well, I think you're probably right.
I'm sad.
I'm sad for Europe.
I told Kevin, so you better put a
ring on it, man.
She's going to come over, and you're going
to get left behind.
Yes, I'm sorry.
A couple of Trump clips.
This is what's going on over here when
it comes to Trump.

(58:31):
This is a Trump loyalist clip.
This is the latest of the complaining going
on on PBS.
President Trump today advanced his plans to make
it easier to fire tens of thousands of
federal workers.
On social media, he said he would move
forward with a rule previously known as Schedule

(58:52):
F, which the administration said, quote, will allow
agencies to quickly remove employees from critical positions
who engage in misconduct, perform poorly, or undermine
the democratic process by intentionally subverting presidential directives.
Our White House correspondent, Laura Barone-Lopez, joins
us now with the latest.

(59:13):
Laura, President Trump promised that he would do
this.
So what does this do, and how many
workers would this affect?
So Schedule F changes the job classification of
nonpartisan federal workers, designating them as political appointees.
And so, bottom line, it makes it easier
for the president to fire anyone that he
considers disloyal and replace them with complete loyalists

(59:33):
to his cause and to his agenda.
Now, Schedule F was a part of the
Project 2025 blueprint from the Heritage Foundation.
And OMB director Russ Vogt was key in
drafting this during the first administration, but they
were not able to implement it during the
first administration.
I love the term blueprint.
This is good.
I read the document.
It was a Chad GPT embellished piece of

(59:56):
crap.
Way too long, single-spaced, unnecessary, long bios
of everybody.
It was very egotistical.
It had some things in there, like get
rid of Department of Education.
I think you could find that in other
documents.
But it was far from a blueprint.
Yeah, a blueprint's actually the simplistic...

(01:00:18):
Yeah, yeah.
Just nuts and bolts, as bold goes here.
Yeah, we're coming back to this thesis.
I mean, they have these memes they like
to throw at Trump and loyalists, he's loyalist.
In other words, you got people working against
you and your project, and you want to

(01:00:40):
get rid of them.
Yeah.
I don't see why, how is that different
than any other president or any other person
running a company or running a government agency
or being the president or anything else?
You don't want people working against you.
No.
So why wouldn't you want to get rid
of them?
Oh, because they're bringing in loyalists.

(01:01:02):
Okay, well...
Because they're triggering internal conflicts of their listeners.
Like, oh, well, imagine if someone could come
and just fire me for not doing my
job.
I'm telling you, this is all socialist nonsense.
This Schedule F, I mean, that was a
masterstroke.

(01:01:23):
Didn't he implement that in his first administration?
Well, he tried.
No, but I thought the law got passed
or something was put through, kind of like
as a...
Something never really got turned back.
No one changed it.
It was just sitting there, ready to be
implemented.
Well, that's what they're up to, and it
got all these people in a tizzy.
So here's the second part of this.

(01:01:45):
And RestVote said throughout the campaign that they
wanted to traumatize federal workers, and the White
House estimates that this will impact some 50
,000 federal workers that could be laid off,
but government experts say that that's probably a
minimum.
So what happens next?
And has there been, I imagine, pushback to
this?
There has been pushback.

(01:02:06):
But so first, what happens is a White
House official said that agencies have until April
20th to hand them the lists of who
they think should be reclassified in their agencies.
But Everett Kelley, the president of the American
Federation of Government Employees, said that this is
another in a series of deliberate moves by
this administration to corrupt the federal government and
replace qualified public servants with political cronies.

(01:02:28):
Stooges!
Cronies!
The AFG says that they are going to
split the administration, and they're the largest union
representing federal workers.
So this is part of a much bigger
picture of Trump's war with the federal government.
That is.
It is.
Now we have a war with the federal
government.
Oh, everything is a war.
Everything is a war.
Blueprint, playbook, war.
That is.

(01:02:48):
It is.
And so this all comes as President Trump
and Elon Musk's team have instituted firings across
the board.
Yesterday, the Trump administration moved to fire some
1,500 employees at the Consumer Financial Protection
Bureau.
That's most of the agency, William.
And today, a federal judge paused those firings,
calling it deeply concerning.

(01:03:08):
And that the firings violated an earlier injunction.
Now when you, based on our reporting as
well as a New York Times analysis, when
you zoom out, essentially, there are more than
132,000 workers that have either been fired
or pressured to take buyouts since Trump has
taken office.
We spoke to Don Moynihan, a public policy
professor at University of Michigan, who said that

(01:03:30):
this essentially defeats the purpose, this Schedule F,
of a nonpartisan civil service.
He said that in the end goal, this
is about imposing loyalty tests, and that targeting
bureaucracy in this way is a hallmark trait
of authoritarian regimes.
Practically, it could also mean that there's some
favoritism that is instituted when it comes to

(01:03:51):
who gets government contracts.
Oh, oh, there it is.
It's about the government contracts, and that's where
Elon comes back into play.
Yeah, it's about the government contracts.
It's about the money.
It's about the free money.
It's really what it's about.
It's not about partisanship or...
I mean, the idea...
Oh, it's the hallmark of authoritarian governments.

(01:04:12):
This is the way Chicago's been run forever.
Is that ever?
That's the way it goes.
Everything's partisan.
Ever since the Polish built it, yeah.
Well, on that, here's a clip about Elon
and government contracts.
SpaceX is fronting a bid to build President
Trump's proposed Golden Dome missile defense system, a
satellite-based shield designed to detect and stop

(01:04:34):
long-range attacks.
The company is working with Palantir and drone
maker Anduril on a concept that would launch
hundreds of satellites into low-Earth orbit to
track threats in real time.
Another fleet, about 200 satellites, would carry strike
capabilities like missiles or directed-energy weapons.

(01:04:55):
Hey, you don't hear that very often these
days.
Directed-energy weapons.
How you laughed at me about my directed
-energy weapons.
I still laugh.
SpaceX is leading the custody layer, satellites that
track incoming threats in real time.
Early design costs are estimated at $6 billion
to $10 billion.
Billions.
Instead of the government owning the system, SpaceX

(01:05:17):
is pitching a subscription model.
I love this!
Yeah, President Trump, you're behind on your monthly
payment.
Do you need a payment plan?
Because we have to turn you off.
You opted for the subscription service.
The Pentagon would pay for access similar to
a service, an approach that could speed up

(01:05:38):
development but raises questions about long-term...
Hold on, stop.
I don't know how that could speed up
development.
Defense as a service.
We have software as a service.
DAS, DAS, DAS, DAS, yes!
DAS, software as a service.
Give me a break.
I think it's great.
Defense as a service.

(01:05:58):
Yes, John and I, we are consultants in
the DAS...
In the DAS space, space, space.
Space, space, DAS space.
And we can recommend the right things for
you.
You need a subscription to this, you need
a subscription to Palantir.
Now, Palantir has many subscriptions.
It's all part of DAS.
I mean, you want the drones?

(01:06:18):
On-demand drones.
On-demand, just whenever you want them.
You just insert a quarter and the drones
fly.
D-O-D, drones on demand.
That could speed up development, but raises questions
about long-term control and oversight.
Over 180 companies have shown interest, including Lockheed,

(01:06:39):
Boeing, and Northrop.
But SpaceX's existing satellite network and launch capability
may give it a head start.
Yeah, no kidding.
I love the whole idea.
And we can also, you know, other countries,
you want a subscription to our service?
Yeah, that's great.
You pay monthly.
It's exactly the same as the little...

(01:07:00):
Yeah, you pay monthly.
And of course, you know, I'm sorry, no
war from midnight to three.
We're doing upgrades.
The system will be down.
404, hello, Paige.
Sorry, we're under maintenance right now.
No, can't do it.

(01:07:21):
Yeah, it's great.
This is great.
I'm very excited about these things.
Okay, firings.
Now, this is interesting because at no point
did the president actually say he wanted to
or he would fire Fed...
Is it President Jerome Powell?
Is it the President of the Federal Reserve?

(01:07:43):
Head.
Is it head?
Head of the Federal Reserve.
The Fed head.
He's too late and always wrong.
That's how President Trump characterized the head of
the U.S. Federal Reserve, Jerome Powell.
The U.S. President, unhappy with Powell, threatened
to fire him.
If I want him out, he'll be out
of there real fast.
Believe me.
No, he did not say he was going
to fire him.
He said he'll be out of there real,

(01:08:04):
real fast.
Everyone's saying that he threatened to fire him,
but he did not say that.
And I don't think he has to say
that, but that's how it's been taken.
And to fire him.
If I want him out, he'll be out
of there real fast.
Believe me.
Trump criticized the Fed's chair for not cutting
the U.S. interest rate, which is at
more than 4%, unlike the European Central Bank,

(01:08:24):
which cut theirs.
We have a Federal Reserve chairman that is
playing politics, somebody that I've never been very
fond of, actually.
But he's playing politics.
Interest rates should be down now.
They should be coming down.
In Europe, as you know, they reduced them,
I guess, seven times.
On Wednesday, Jerome Powell suggested that it was
Trump's tariffs which were causing economic uncertainty and

(01:08:47):
preventing the Federal Reserve from lowering the rate.
The administration is, as I mentioned in my
remarks, is implementing significant policy changes, and particularly
trade now is the focus.
And the effects of that are likely to
move us away from our goals.
So unemployment is likely to go up as
the economy slows, in all likelihood, and inflation
is likely to go up as tariffs find

(01:09:08):
their way.
But can Donald Trump put an early end
to Powell's mandate like he says he can?
Many legal experts believe this would be difficult.
The institution is supposed to be independent of
the U.S. administration.
But because a court hasn't ruled on the
matter before, no one can say for certain
what would happen.
And President Trump has been defying many political
norms since returning to office in January.

(01:09:28):
As for Powell, he said he would complete
his term until 2026 and would not resign
if asked to do so by the president.
Yeah, but we need to get those interest
rates down for the refi in 2025.
So, you know, but the Federal Reserve is,
you know, this is the big joke.
This Federal Reserve's never been, they've always been

(01:09:50):
off.
Their timing has sucked.
It's never been right.
No, but I don't think changing it out
is going to make any difference.
No, it's not going to change anything.
You know, we need the Mar-a-Lago
Accords.
This is what has to happen.
That'll put the pressure on.
And Fifi, Fifi Lagarde over there in the

(01:10:11):
EU, the European Central Bank, she is the
Jay Powell of Europe.
She's getting a little nervous.
You know, she presents, so they lowered the
interest rate now.
They're down to 2.25%, I believe, just
in time to pour on some more debt.
And she, I think the Mar-a-Lago

(01:10:32):
Accords are coming and I think the Stablecoin
is on its way because she gave a
very nervous response about Stablecoin.
On the issue of Stablecoins, you know that
we have regulation in place.
It's called MICAR.
It is effective.
It's currently under review and consultation for possible

(01:10:53):
improvements.
And I'm delighted that this is the case
because we are facing a constant evolution of
those digital payments, of those cross-border payments,
of those Stablecoins, which I would put in
a very separate category from the cryptos.
Yeah, because they're dollars, that's why.
Cryptoassets or however you want to call them.

(01:11:14):
Cryptos.
So the Stablecoins are a different animal.
And clearly having a good, solid regulation that
constitutes the framework within which they can operate,
I think is paramount and has been understood
by the European Union, by the commissions, by
various authorities in charge of those matters.
And will be reviewed in order to make

(01:11:36):
sure that it procures a safe harbour for
those initiatives.
But let me take the opportunity of this
to acknowledge that for the first time in
our monetary policy statement, we refer to the
digital euro.
And that should be a clear signal that
not only do we stand ready and do
the hard work that is incumbent upon us,
but it also acknowledges the fact that other

(01:11:58):
European authorities are hopefully going to accelerate the
pace at which we can deliver.
I think she's afraid that the Stablecoin is
going to flood her market.
What Stablecoin are we talking about?
Any Stablecoin will be an American dollar-backed
Stablecoin.
She doesn't want people using Stablecoins.

(01:12:21):
She's like, but we've got the digital euro
coming.
We've got our CBDC.
This is what we want.
We don't want your Stablecoins.
Well, I don't blame her.
No, of course not.
We have regulations about that stuff.
No Stablecoin for you.
Don't use Stablecoin, people.
Don't use it.
It's no good.
You want our digital euro.

(01:12:46):
No cryptos.
It's a different animal from the cryptos.
The cryptos.
It's the trillion-dollar coin, John.
It's coming.
The trillion-dollar coin is the answer.
It is the answer.
It always is.
In the end, the Simpsons predicted it, so
you know it's going to happen eventually.
I've got an offbeat clip just to take

(01:13:06):
kind of a break.
This is a very strange clip about something
that I thought was probably the most underreported
story.
Well, it's totally just underreported, but it's also
the most interesting story I think came out
all week.
And you'd think they would have covered it
on these Sunday morning shows because it's a

(01:13:29):
major event.
This is the Wisconsin story.
And in another court ruling over the power
of the executive branch, in Wisconsin today, the
state Supreme Court upheld a very unique partial
veto power that the governor has.
Governor Tony Evers used that power back in
2023 to lock in a school funding increase

(01:13:51):
for the next 400 years.
At the heart of the case was Evers'
ability to veto even the tiniest parts of
a bill to dramatically alter its meaning.
By striking individual words and numbers in the
legislation, he approved more school revenue increases until
literally the year 2425.

(01:14:12):
Wisconsin Supreme Court has been embroiled in national
politics recently with Elon Musk pouring millions into
a race to back a conservative judge who
lost.
It was the most expensive judicial contest in
American history.
So you can literally stripe away the word
like...

(01:14:33):
Not.
You could take the word should not exceed
and then just take away the word not
and it should exceed.
Yes.
Wow.
And is this a liberal or conservative governor?
I believe he's a liberal governor, but it
was the liberal Supreme Court, the one that
Musk tried to get that other guy into

(01:14:54):
and he couldn't do it, that allowed this
to happen because he had done it anyway.
He was like, this is taking line-item
veto, which has been talked about forever.
To an extreme.
To an extreme and they can't seem to
implement it.
This is not line-item veto.
This is word veto.
Yes, word veto.

(01:15:16):
And as a writer, I can assure you
that you can rewrite anything that means just
the opposite.
Easily.
Yeah, easily by just taking words out.
That's great.
And this is the most phenomenal story and
it also sets a precedent, at least at
one state level, that this is something to

(01:15:38):
keep an eye on.
Wow.
So he managed to get school funding for
400 years somehow by dicking around with a
bill.
That's great.
Well, take this word out.
You know, if you took this word out...
States' rights, baby.
States' rights.
Yeah, that's good.

(01:16:00):
Wisconsin should do whatever they want to do.
That's beyond states' rights.
They should do whatever they want to do.
If they can do that, they need to
change their constitution.
That's fantastic.
That's why America is so fun.
We're exciting.
We have crazy stuff that happens.
So talking about crazy stuff, I do have
some Brooks and Capehart clips, which I have

(01:16:21):
not done for weeks.
Okay.
Because of Gigi.
Okay.
Brooks and Capehart, the show that literally no
one else but you watches.
It's not a show.
What is it then?
What do you mean it's not?
It's a segment on the Friday version of

(01:16:43):
the PBS NewsHour.
You're able to get four clips out of
a segment of a show?
That's unbelievable.
Yes, I have the...
We're starting with the BBC...
This would be...
I think the one I start with is...
Yeah.

(01:17:03):
Brooks, nuts.
You offered a prescription, David, in your column
in the New York Times for this moment
that we are in, and you called for
a civic uprising.
You said in this column...
Wait, stop, stop, stop.
Civic uprising?
I don't know.
This is not the right one?
You got to...
No, that's part of the series of nuts.
The one we really want...
I'm sorry.

(01:17:24):
This is BNC Brooks...
Crisis.
Crisis?
Crisis.
Crisis.
Brooks Crisis.
It says crisis.
I want to talk about President Trump and
the courts.
The president has wielded his authority in, I
think, by any measure, in an extraordinary way.
Slashing budgets and jobs across the federal government,

(01:17:45):
targeting billions of dollars at colleges and universities,
threatening major law firms.
On immigration, we've all been following that remarkable
process.
But the courts, David, in many instances, have
stood up to the president.
Do you think that they are doing their
appropriate role of check and balance?

(01:18:05):
Yeah, I think they are.
The question is whether Trump pays any attention
to the courts.
And so, to me, watching the Trump administration,
it's just like watching an administration say, you
know, we've decided stoplights don't apply to us.
Yellow lines down the middle don't apply.
We're just going to roll over it, and
you stop us.
And when you think constitutional crisis, you think,
like, two sides faking off on the barricades.

(01:18:26):
But I've actually lived through a constitutional crisis.
When I was at the Wall Street Journal,
I covered the end of the Soviet Union.
Whoa.
That was a constitutional crisis?
Okay.
And it was obviously very different in many
ways.
But one thing was interesting.
The mental adjustment I had to make.
The mental adjustment?
Yeah, at the very end.
Because I grew up in a country where
I assume if a law is passed, then
things will change.

(01:18:46):
It will be enforced, and it will be
a reality on the ground.
But at the very end of the Soviet
Union, they would pass law after law, and
nothing happened.
Nobody bothered to enforce it.
It never had any implementation.
So the laws were fictional.
Because people had lost faith in the laws,
lost faith in the whole system.
And so what happens now is not that
you get this big conflict, but Trump just
says, we're going to arrest a guy and

(01:19:10):
give him no due process.
And there's like no conversation.
It just happens.
And nobody's there to stop it, because famously
the judiciary doesn't have an army.
Right.
Now, is he referring to when President Biden
just said, you know, we're not going to
adhere to the laws of immigration?
Is that what he's talking about?
Because that sounds awfully familiar.

(01:19:30):
Or Biden refusing to suspend the freebie money
for the people who took out student loans
and the Supreme Court told him not to?
Is he talking about that?
I guess.
But, you know, the Supreme Court clearly needs
guns.
Give them weapons.
A couple of things.
A couple of things.
Of course, when I started doing these clips,

(01:19:52):
I always get the same basic complaint.
Yeah.
Don't give your money to PBS.
That's what it always is.
Okay.
Well, that's at the top of the list.
Don't give your money to PBS.
Where is somebody that can defend Trump's policies
as a point of interest, as opposed to

(01:20:14):
two guys who hate Trump?
Brooks, who's supposedly a conservative, much of the
way like that crackpot Jennifer Rubin, who is
at the Washington Post, called herself a conservative
blogger.
She's a liberal nut.
And Brooks is not.
Where's Ann Coulter?
That's a good question.
Where is Ann Coulter?
I don't know.

(01:20:35):
They could put anybody in there to have
a counterpoint.
It should be point, counterpoint.
Not two guys that both hate Trump.
Brooks hates Trump and Capehart really hates Trump.
I guess maybe that's the difference.
One hates Trump more than the other.
But they know their audience.
They don't want anyone defending him.
They want more, more.

(01:20:55):
Pile it on.
He's no good.
I'm getting mad.
So the other thing is, he went through
a constitutional crisis by visiting Russia.
Yes, it was very hard.
And by the way, the Soviet Union was
always run with a bunch of laws that
were never enforced.
They were there for the purposes of enforcing
when needed.
That was their idea.
My favorite, I went there before the fall

(01:21:17):
of communism.
I was in the Soviet Union and visited.
And there's all these laws they have.
You can't do it.
If they wanted to arrest you, they'd find
a million things that you did wrong.
And my favorite one was the, you can't
take money out.
You can't take the ruble outside of the

(01:21:38):
country.
It has to stay inside.
I still have rubles in my box.
I know everybody took them out of the
country.
The point is, is that they could arrest
you.
But you're not supposed to take rubles outside
of the country.
Technically, just outside of the, there's some point
where you're just outside the airport is considered
not in the country.
And that's where they store the carts for

(01:22:01):
the airport, the luggage carts.
And to get one of the carts, you
have to use a ruble.
So to use a cart, you have to
break the law.
Well, when I was in Russia, Soviet Union,
before the wall came down, they told me
whatever you do, don't insult the Kremlin.
So Sebastian Bach and I, Sebastian of Skid

(01:22:24):
Row, we went and we were drinking vodka
on Red Square at 3 a.m. and
we were trading T-shirts for some of
those cool Russian furry hats.
We didn't get arrested.
We were there with Ozzy.
But you could have been.
Could have been.
Yeah, you're not supposed to do any buying
or selling or anything during that era.
I was told that, you know, everything's under

(01:22:47):
the table.
So I picked up a couple of Russian
watches that had Yuri Gagarin on them.
Collectibles.
Total collectible.
Do you have them still?
And so they were, I forget, some guy
comes up to me, would you like to
buy a watch?
And I was told they were going to
be trying to sell me these watches.

(01:23:08):
But they're illegal to buy.
Yes.
So I said, yeah, sure.
And so I gave him whatever it was
and I looked at the watch and I
looked up, the guy was disappeared.
I mean, he was just like, I've never
seen anyone vanish in thin air like this.
The other thing that was notable when I

(01:23:30):
was there was they did, this was the
beginning of the end where they would allow
these, some vendors around the Kremlin, they had
these little shops that would sell approved souvenirs.
And so you could buy like a shirt.

(01:23:50):
This is during Perestroika and I actually bought
a Perestroika t-shirt.
And the rule was if the shirt cost
five rubles and 50 kopecks or whatever it
was, I can't remember what the censor called,
you had to pay exactly that amount because

(01:24:10):
they can't make change.
No change, right.
They can't.
It was against the law to make change
and it was also against the law to
overpay.
So you couldn't give them six and say
keep the change.
It was nuts.
And so this is Brooks's example of going

(01:24:30):
through a constitutional crisis.
This guy is so full of it.
It's an embarrassment.
Let's go to clip two.
I'm sorry.
Would this be nuts?
Nuts one?
No, no.
The second part is Capehart's response.
This is the BNC Capehart follow up to
what Brooks said.
So we can get the debate going.

(01:24:52):
Oh, yes.
Here we go.
Jonathan, what do you think about that?
I mean, we had Georgetown Law Professor Steve
Ladeck on the show.
He says we're not quite there yet because
the Trump administration has not yet formally blown
through overtly ignored a direct court order yet.
But we also heard from the League of
Women Voters, the nonpartisan organization, who this week

(01:25:12):
I'd like to read you this quote.
Oh, shit.
Who walked away from managing the elections because
it was so rigged and stupid.
They said, quote, it has now been 87
days since the start of the Trump administration
from the flagrant disregard for congressional authority and
governmental checks and balances to defying Supreme Court
orders to bring Kilmar Abrego Garcia back home.

(01:25:34):
One thing is abundantly clear.
Our country is in a constitutional crisis.
Bum, bum, bum, bum.
Where do you come down on that?
I am glad you read that because I
was shaking.
I was nodding in agreement with the League
of Women Voters.
How can you say that the president hasn't
defied court orders?
You've got Judge Boasberg, who is threatening to,

(01:25:58):
says yesterday that there's probable cause to charge
the government or lawyers arguing on behalf of
the government with criminal contempt.
Why?
Why?
Why?
Because the president of the United States and
his administration ignored his order to not deport
those folks to El Salvador.
So I know there are these formal definitions

(01:26:20):
of what a constitutional crisis is.
But from where I sit in my schoolhouse
rock knowledge of how our government is supposed
to work, we are in one.
We have a president of the United States
who on a daily basis blows past the
guardrails, pushes as far as he can get
to test the system.

(01:26:41):
And what has heartened me this week is
hearing from Judge Boasberg and the judge who
ruled yesterday in that beautiful seven-page opinion
where they are not just saying this isn't
the right thing to do.
They are pushing back just as aggressively from
their respective federal benches.
And I think we will be better for

(01:27:02):
it.
I read that opinion and indeed.
Beautiful.
Yum.
Those seven pages were just so beautiful.
That guy is under investigation.
No one mentions this.
He's under investigation, that judge.

(01:27:22):
Yeah, Boasberg.
Yes.
No one mentions that.
Okay.
But I mean, what really constitutes a constitutional
crisis?
I mean, if the Supreme Court says you
can't do that and the president does it,
is that by definition a constitutional crisis?
No, none of this is.
These people are insane.
They like the term.

(01:27:43):
They like the term because then it can
easily devolve into the concept of a threat
to democracy, which is something they came up
with and they love it.
And so they just want to keep harping
on it, threat to democracy.
Well, if you use their standards, this show,
this very show has been a constitutional crisis

(01:28:03):
many times just between you and I.
And it's a threat to democracy by their
definition.
It's a big threat to democracy.
By their definition.
Because a threat to democracy is a threat
to the Democrat Party is what they mean.
So what happens?
This is a question.
This is a constitutional question.
So if the president ignores a court decision

(01:28:26):
or court order.
You mean like Biden did?
Yes.
What happens?
What does the constitution say?
What is supposed to happen?
What's supposed to happen is you impeach the
president.
Ah.
Okay.
Which they'll do as soon as they get

(01:28:47):
back.
Once the Democrats get the.
Yes.
Yeah.
It's unlikely president if they lose the House
and the Senate or either one or the
House in particular.
It's sure to be an impeachment.
He'll never finish four years.
It has to be the House.
The House is the one that initiates.
Yeah, the House.
Yeah, they'll impeach him for the third time.

(01:29:07):
Nothing will come of it because you can't
get that many senators.
You have to have 60 senators.
No, no, no.
No, it's 75.
I think you have to have 75%.
Right.
Then that will be the whole circus all
over again.
And then after that in 2028, the show
ends because I can't do it anymore.
I can't.
I can't.
It would be too much.

(01:29:28):
I can't take it.
So this Brooks is off the rails to
the point where now he sounds more like
a Democrat than ever.
And now he's actually part of the idea
of protesting in the streets because it's gotten
so bad with Trump.
Pitchforks.
Let's go, people.
Let's go.
It's so bad.

(01:29:48):
It's so bad.
I don't know if you look out your
window right now, you probably see people running
up and down the street with their hair
on fire.
I see nothing but pickup trucks with Confederate
flags around here, John.
Everybody in Fredericksburg is happy.
They're happy.
The funny thing is I'm not seeing anything
different here in the Berkeley area.
Let alone if I drove past the Tesla
place again with a thousand Teslas surrounding it.

(01:30:11):
There's not one.
I haven't seen one damaged Tesla or anything
in between.
So the whole thing is something of a
farce.
But let's listen to what Brooks believes should
happen.
You offered a prescription, David, in your column
in the New York Times for this moment
that we are in.
And you called for a civic uprising.

(01:30:33):
You said in this column, I want to
read a bit of this.
Saying that the attacks that we've seen on
institutions, quote, are not separate battles.
This is a simple effort to undo the
parts of the civilizational order that might restrain
Trump's acquisition of power.
So how would that civic uprising form?
Yeah, the core argument is that Trump is

(01:30:54):
really about amassing power.
And anything that might potentially restrain his power,
he will destroy.
And that includes the court systems.
And anything part of it that livens humanity
includes the universities, the scientific community, the truth,
the media.
And so far we've responded to all these
things, like NATO and in separate lanes.
We think the Fed is different than NATO,
which is different from the universities.

(01:31:15):
But my point is this is all one
thing.
And if institutions and even sectors try to
respond to this individually, they're doomed.
Even Harvard with $52 billion in its endowment.
You can't do it alone.
Though that was a signal moment.
That was a crucial turning point because it
changed the minds of everybody in every university
I've talked to since then.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
So post-Harvard they've all said.

(01:31:35):
A lot of them beforehand were like, well,
Columbia made a deal.
Maybe that's right for us.
Once Harvard came out, I talked to a
couple of university presidents who said, oh, this
is where we need to be.
Because the Trump administration made it impossible for
Harvard not to say no.
And that's what we're dealing with here.
And so the point I tried to make
is all these different sectors have to get
together and form one big civic movement.

(01:31:57):
And it can't be political.
It's not Democrats versus Republicans.
It's not left versus right.
It's institutions versus the destruction of our institutions
of civilization.
Oh, institutions of civilization.
Yeah, well, this is what they're saying in
Europe.
He's destroying the institutions of civilization.
Of civilization.
Oh, man.
The other thing they're saying in Europe is

(01:32:19):
America is right now in the middle of
a revolution.
And that is true.
That is exactly what's happening.
We are in the middle of a revolution
breaking down stupid stuff that we all somehow
were told to believe that this is how
it goes.
This is what it is.
You don't fire government workers.
Keep everything going.

(01:32:39):
Just go along to keep going along.
Keep along.
It's all good.
And no, no, it's stopping.
Yeah.
They don't get that part.
So these guys think that they're, OK, well,
maybe it's the Bernie and AOC crowd.
Maybe you can arm them.
Yeah.
Can you imagine?

(01:32:59):
No, I can't.
There was a good thread that I put
up on X, formerly known as Twitter, that
somebody had posted a big protest in England
pro-trans.
Oh.
And so somebody had collected, gone to the

(01:33:21):
thing and collected all these pictures of the
signage.
And it's frightening.
It's so off the, it's unbelievable.
People should try to track that down.
And by the way, I do need more
followers, the real Dvorak on Twitter.
You're never, it's never going to happen.
I have the same thing.
I'm stuck forever at 98,000.

(01:33:43):
This is because before Elon got in there,
they put, I'm sure they have limits.
They actually gave a limit.
If this guy goes beyond this number, no.
Yeah, that's me.
Yeah, I think it is you.
And I think of me for sure, because
I get to 102,000.4 and it
stops.
Or it goes down.

(01:34:04):
I'm down to 102.2. I should be
at a million.
Okay, I'm looking at this thread now.
Here's a sign.
I will make you listen.
Trans women are women.
Trans men are men.
If you don't like that, go shit somewhere
else.
Okay?
F the system, C-I-S-T-E
-M.

(01:34:25):
Transphobe, do-it-yourself lobotomy.
There's a guy poking his eye out with
a knife.
Babies for trans rights.
Oh, that's a nice one.
It's not radical to remove rights.
Transphobes are the dangerous minority.
You ruled for discrimination, violence, murder, sexual assault,
harassment of an innocent minority.

(01:34:46):
Eat the gender binary.
Oh, that's a good one.
Eat the gender binary is a good one.
Eat the gender binary.
You know, this is in England.
This is in the UK where these signs
are cropping up.
When did they become so, because I thought
they were the first ones to start backing
off on the whole trans thing, and now
it's all back with a fury?

(01:35:07):
Yeah, but it's not trans, John.
It's trans Maoism.
It's a political thing.
It has nothing to do with people who
are trans or whatever.
It's political.
This is a political movement of very unhappy
people who have been hypnotized by COVID.
On to clip two.

(01:35:29):
And if you look down through history, there
have been social movements, these kind of civic
uprisings, that have succeeded.
They've banded together across sectors.
They have a clear, simple message that appeals
to a lot of different people.
They use things like lawsuits, protests, boycotts, all
sorts of things, strikes, anything they can do.

(01:35:50):
Shouldn't Brooks get out on front?
Should he be the first on the barricade?
Come on, everybody, follow me.
I'm Brooks.
I'll tell you what to do.
Yeah, he should have a big red flag
on a pole.
All sorts of things, strikes, anything they can
do.
But basically, if you're a head of a
law firm or a university, any of these
institutions, you're dealing with administrations.
It's just about raw power.

(01:36:11):
Elites of the world, unite behind me.
So the question you have to ask yourself
is how do we amass power so they're
not dividing us, so we're dividing them?
And that is a mass uprising.
And the one turning point, if you look
even at the civil rights movement, when you
do a nonviolent protest and the people on
the other side attack you with violence, that
tends to weaken them.

(01:36:32):
And then suddenly you're dividing them, Selma, obviously.
And so this is the kind of way
we have to think.
The great military strategist.
Has he noticed that the violence is on
the left and it's always been on the
left and it's on the left now with
the protests going on and burning the Tesla
dealerships and all the rest of it?

(01:36:53):
Has he noticed this or has he just
ignored that, thinks it's going to be a
pushback?
That's necessary.
That's necessary.
That's necessary for the people to show their
power against battery cars.
And so this is the kind of way
we have to think that it's time not
just to think, well, maybe he'll look at
the other guy.
It's time.
We're all involved.
We're all in this together and we're going

(01:37:14):
to amass power together.
Jonathan, do you think that that movement, that
uprising is going to happen?
I mean, we saw protests recently.
There are major protests planned for tomorrow.
Do you think that there is this coalescing
energy that David is talking about?
I think it's I think it's happening.
It's happening.
I'm out front.
Come on, girls.

(01:37:34):
Let's go.
It's happening.
It's happening.
These people are going to go back home,
drink their Chardonnay, have their nuts.
That was a great show.
Yes, it was.
We have the nation behind us.
Chardonnay is the right.
Yes, they'll be drinking Chardonnay.
We have the country behind us.

(01:37:56):
Yes.
Chard.
I'm getting text messages from everywhere.
They so agree.
Throw off your sweaters.
Come on, swirl your shard.
Throw off the cardigan.
Throw off the cardigan, swirl your shard, and
let's go, people.
Do they know that they're on the losing
end of this?

(01:38:16):
No.
What do you think?
No.
They're in a dream world, but it's like
what's so annoying is this is a disservice.
Listen to these two clowns.
The only one servicing them is you by
playing these clips over and over again.
They're still on the air.
In fact, they go home, swirl their shard,

(01:38:36):
and like, I sure hope John will play
these clips so we stay relevant in the
universe.
That's what's happening here.
They do a disservice.
This is public broadcasting.
It's paid for by the government.
They get a billion dollars from the government
to do this, and this is what the
drivel is.

(01:38:57):
No, it's also from viewers like you.
No, it's not from viewers like me.
I think this is the last of the
clips.
And I think it started when people were
showing up outside of USAID when they were
going through hell.
I think we're seeing it in the town
halls in Republican districts so much so that

(01:39:19):
the leadership told Republican members of Congress don't
hold town halls anymore.
We've seen it with the big rallies in
red states convened by Senator Bernie Sanders and
AOC in red states.
I think just yesterday or two days ago
in Montana, hundreds if not thousands of people.

(01:39:40):
And then you look at what's happening.
And I know the courts and the judges
are impartial, but they are also part of
this pushing back on what's happening.
And then for Harvard to do what it
did, I think sent a message not just
to university presidents but to the country that
if Harvard had folded, it would have been
a devastating thing.

(01:40:00):
But it didn't happen.
And I would just say this one last
point.
In Trump 1- Fuck the Joes.
Adam Sore wrote famously the cruelty is the
point about the first Trump administration.
Cruelty.
And I would argue that in Trump 2,
it's now the cruelty is the policy.
And I think what we're seeing around the
country is people pushing back against Trump 2.

(01:40:22):
Jonathan Capehart, David Brooks, always good to see
you both.
Thank you.
Thanks.
Awesome segment, boys.
Great job.
Boy, that was so riveting.
All right.
Well, let's talk about the town hall.
Cruelty is the policy.
That's right.
And it's scary.
The town halls are scary, very scary.
Even Marjorie Taylor Greene's town halls are just

(01:40:44):
scary.
North of Atlanta, Republican Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene's
town hall had flashes of WrestleMania.
WrestleMania!
Hostility, jeering, scuffling with security, and a ringmaster,
Georgia's firebrand congresswoman.
This is a town hall.
This is not a political rally.

(01:41:04):
This is not a protest.
Three hecklers were arrested.
Police tasered two of them, including this man.
These town halls have become so raucous.
Greene is one of the few Republicans to
hold one during this congressional recess.
Their national party has suggested members hold virtual
town halls instead.
Already in three months, we've got more emails

(01:41:27):
than all of last year.
What does that tell you?
For an hour in Iowa, a room full
of Senator Charles Grassley's constituents ganged up on
the 91-year-old Republican.
Yeah, we showed him.
Come on, Dems.
Do your jobs.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Do your job, man.
Did you see this guy who was sitting
back?
He's like, this was far from WrestleMania.

(01:41:49):
Do your job, man.
Hey, man, do your job.
Do your jobs.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, man, do your job.
They're furious, and they want answers on issues
from Social Security to deportations.
Are you going to bring that guy back
from El Salvador?
Bring that guy back, you know, the one
from El Salvador?

(01:42:11):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Woo.
Why not?
Well, because that's not the power of Congress.
Poor dude.
That's not it.
What's going on?
Who are these people?
Did someone bust them in?
Why, yes.
Yes, they did.
Happened to Murkowski, too.

(01:42:31):
In these moments, some people clearly seem scared.
Alaska's Republican Senator Lisa Murkowski made this extraordinary
admission.
We are all afraid.
I'm oftentimes very- In a bucket.
Well, yes, she's a town hall in a
bucket.
Yes, I'm afraid.
I'm anxious myself about using my voice because

(01:42:56):
retaliation is real.
And it's not just Republicans getting an earful
from their constituents.
I don't think that you have fought hard
enough.
Democratic Representative Laura Friedman got the same message
from Californians.
Okay, please sit down.
We have a lot of questions I want

(01:43:17):
to get through.
Do more.
Fight harder.
And yet there's this reality check.
The president's approval rating stands at 47%
in our recent CBS News poll, higher than
at any point during his first term.
That was a great statistic.
I didn't expect him to do that.
47% approval rating, higher than his first

(01:43:39):
term.
It's getting worse.
I've noticed this.
I think they're doing that to try to
rile up the Democrats.
Oh, totally.
That's what you do.
He's getting more popular.
We have to do more.
Be crazier.
Do more.
Be crazier.
That's it.
Be crazier.

(01:43:59):
We're CBS News.
Be crazier because this is great.
It's easy for us.
All we have to do is film it.
It's good news.
It gets people to watch the show, our
dying shows.
Yeah.
It's a good idea.
I think it's smart.
I think they could do a little bit
better on the audio.
I'm disappointed in CBS with their audio.

(01:44:20):
You know, some of the audio and the
fact that they, you know, you can clean
up that Murkowski clip.
Somewhat, yeah.
But nobody's done it.
So every time you hear it, you can't.
I could have used something that had that
clip in there, but I thought the clip
was, you can't hear her.
It's unusable.
I know.
I can't believe I played it.
I apologize.
I'm stunned that you played it.

(01:44:42):
All right.
I'm going to play something different.
I got to shift gears here for a
second.
It is, of course, Easter today.
Please take note, Adam and John working on
Easter.
Oh, that's right.
You know, I forgot to milk that.
That's true.
We're working.
Yes, you did not milk it.
On Easter Sunday again.
I think we've worked every Easter ever.

(01:45:03):
Well, it's a Sunday, you typically.
I believe so, yes.
I believe so.
I don't think we've taken any.
Yeah.
No, no, no.
Who else can say that?
Nobody.
No, no, no, no.
So this comes from Frau Ingraham's show, The
Ingraham Report.

(01:45:23):
And so I wanted to play this just
as a good news, a Jesus-free clip.
But then I thought, wait, wait, this is
actually a put-down on the famous Dana
Brunetti.
Dana Brunetti, the producer of major box office
smashes, such as Gran Turismo, such as House

(01:45:47):
of Cards, such as Fifty Shades of Grey
and Fifty Shades of Greyer.
And he will not listen to me.
Must have been the social network.
The social network.
I mean, these were huge hits.
Captain Phillips, I think, is one of his
big hits.
With Tom Hanks?
Yeah.
Interesting.
Mm-hmm.
I wonder if Brunetti's ever been to the

(01:46:08):
island with Tom.
Probably not.
Anyway, he will not listen to me.
I tell him, you know, his career is
in a slump.
Hollywood hates him.
He's retired.
Hello.
I'm defending Dana Brunetti.
You're never retired from show business.
You're always looking for your next hit.
Not the CIA.
You're always looking for your next hit.

(01:46:30):
You always want to have that one more
time.
I want to get in the game one
more time.
I have told him time and time again,
but he will not listen to me.
The way to go is Jesus, Dana Brunetti.
This Good Friday, a note of hope.
It's no secret that people have been writing
the obituary of Christianity since Jesus was nailed
to the cross.
Have you been to the movies recently?

(01:46:51):
Some of the biggest box office winners in
recent weeks, The King of Kings and The
Chosen Last Supper.
Why are Jesus movies beating Disney releases?
Because there's a yearning for truth.
Because Disney releases suck.
And community rooted in that truth.
On Amazon, House of David, based on King
David's life, was one of the most watched
new releases for the streamer.
And there's huge excitement building around Mel Gibson's

(01:47:14):
forthcoming sequel to The Passion of the Christ,
20 years after that blockbuster.
The Passion of the Christ 2.
That's right.
It just kept on going.
Everything up.
And churches, in case you haven't been paying
attention, are packed this Holy Week.
The National Catholic Register is reporting across the
country, dioceses are seeing annual increases in new

(01:47:34):
converts of 30 to 70 percent.
That's up.
I'm reading similar reports in England and France.
And even in Washington, D.C., there's a
pronounced effort to demonstrate faith these days in
a way you just didn't see a few
years ago.
President Trump has made a habit of inviting
pastors of various denominations to pray with him
in the Oval Office.
Earlier this week, the president held an Easter

(01:47:56):
prayer service and dinner at the White House.
As we gather with family and friends, we'll
not forget the true source of our joy
and our strength.
America has put our trust in God.
It will always be in God we trust.
We will never change that.
What you are seeing is the normalization of
faith across the culture.
In pop culture, in government, it's like a

(01:48:17):
green light.
That one can, with calm and confidence, express
faith without fear of recriminations in the way
the founders intended.
And it's a message that those Gen Zers
who are going to be baptized this weekend
seem to be responding to.
Get on the train, Brunetti.
Get on the train.
Jesus is tripping.
How does this report jive with all the

(01:48:40):
anti-Christian stories that are coming?
You know, all the Christians, they got to
do this, they're under attack, everyone hates them.
How would they make that?
Where's your report?
Where's your report?
Well, I don't have a report on this.
Next show, I'll have a dozen clips.
Okay, bring it on.

(01:49:02):
I bet you can't find a dozen.
Well, I'm not going to find a dozen.
Oh, okay, there you go.
But I'll find enough.
No, people are becoming bold in their faith,
John.
This is good.
And the movies, and, you know, you said
it yourself, the president sets the tone for
the country.
That's what's going on.

(01:49:23):
When he starts watching those movies, that will
make a difference.
He's going to go to the premiere.
The premiere of what?
Of Mel Gibson's The Passion, the sequel.
The Passion of the Christ 2.
Yes, the sequel.
It's going to be worse.
That was a very, very stressful movie.
The first movie was all in Aramaic.

(01:49:45):
Yeah, but you cannot say it wasn't very
successful.
It was one of the biggest grossing movies
of all time, I think.
I think it did, like, 800...
Unwatchable.
Oh, I loved it.
$800 billion.
You can't watch anything.
$800 billion.
It was $800 billion.
Okay, hold on a second.
It was not $800 billion.

(01:50:06):
It was the box office for Passion of
the Christ.
I'm going to ask your favorite AI.
Okay, you're right.
$612 billion.
No, it was million, but it was close.
Yes, $612 million is not $800 billion.

(01:50:29):
But that's okay.
I like the way you think.
You're just like you're in a dream world.
No, I'm in reality, my friend.
I'm in reality.
Meanwhile, on the other end of the spectrum,
on the social networks, things not looking too
good.
We've got lawsuits happening everywhere.
What started as a chat app for gamers
has become a playground for child predators.

(01:50:52):
That's what the New Jersey Attorney General alleges
of Discord.
Discord appeals to online predators who use the
app to sexually exploit children.
New Jersey is now the first state to
sue Discord.
You know what Discord is, don't you?
I think I do.
I don't use Discord.
I don't know Discord.
Well, Discord is very popular.

(01:51:15):
It's more popular than Snapchat?
It's more popular than WhatsApp?
It's popular.
It's more popular than Signal?
It's more popular than Telegram?
What you're saying, we just keep on spouting,
is not comparable.
A Discord server is not just a chat.
It has files.

(01:51:36):
It has all kinds of – it has
different functions.
A lot of them are used by spooks.
It was a big gamer thing.
You could share – that's where you could
also buy stuff.
You could buy your in-game gear.
That's why they say it's a server.
And I think it's even open source.

(01:51:56):
But the company, Discord, is very successful.
They're making a lot of money.
And they're in trouble.
New Jersey is now the first state to
sue Discord, alleging it does not provide a
safe environment for kids.
The app, with over 200 million monthly users,
operates as a series of chat rooms known
as servers.
Attorney General Matthew Plattken says a number of

(01:52:19):
the people in those servers are adults communicating
with children.
Plattken blames Discord's default settings, which allow anyone
to friend anyone.
There's very little to prevent kids from connecting
with and receiving messages from complete strangers.
The attorney general's office points to several child
predator cases it prosecuted with links to Discord.

(01:52:40):
Predators that were found to have used the
app to engage in sexual grooming, extortion, and
exploitation.
The AG's office also says Discord misled parents
about a feature called safe direct messaging.
Discord said safe direct messaging would scan direct
messages and delete those with explicit content.

(01:53:01):
But Discord knew that wasn't true.
The attorney general's office also alleges Discord is
a breathing ground for extremists and racist content.
White nationalists organized a 2017 Unite the Right
rally on Discord.
The New Jersey attorney general's office sued Meta
in 2023 and TikTok in 2024.
Discord, now the latest social media site, called

(01:53:22):
to court.
We are now in a position to lead
nationally.
The New Jersey attorney general is seeking civil
penalties as well as an injunction against Discord
and an order that Discord give back any
profits that were generated in New Jersey.
So, of course, this is parents moving, you
know, shoving their own responsibility out of the
way.
You've got to take away these phones from

(01:53:44):
these kids.
Just no.
Organize with your school, no phones for these
kids.
Stop.
It's all dumb.
How do you get the kids...
You know, I'm still stunned by the fact
that kids can be on their phones in
a classroom.
Yeah, that's ending.
And there's a lot of...
Well, it's barely ending, and everyone's bitching about

(01:54:05):
it.
It's like it should have never begun.
When I was a kid...
Oh, boy.
Here we go.
Yeah.
This reminds me of...
When you were a kid, your parents kept
you in the drawer.
When I was a kid, I remember...
There was two things that...
There was interesting switch over.
There was like...
When I was a kid, it was a

(01:54:26):
big deal that kids got caught smoking in
the bathroom.
Ooh, yes.
By the time I was out of college,
it was like, oh, no, nobody smokes in
there, but they smoked pot in the bathroom.
Now, all of a sudden, they went from
smoking cigarettes to pot in the bathroom.
When I was a kid, it was like
verboten to have a handheld calculator like an

(01:54:48):
HP.
Yes.
You couldn't...
You remember this too, don't you, Boomer?
Yeah.
And then you had your watch, and you
had a little Casio watch with a little
pen, and had a calculator on it.
You could tap the little numbers with the
pen on the watch face.
Remember that?
No, I don't remember that, but I can
see people doing it.

(01:55:10):
Yeah.
So you've gone from, no, you can't have
a calculator in the classroom because it's cheating,
to, oh, yeah, you're going to have a
phone where you could get with the internet
in your hand.
You can look anything up.
But it's because the parents, the kids that
you produced, the Boomer generation, the parents are

(01:55:32):
like, I have to be in touch with
my...
Bless you.
I have to be in touch with my
child if my son doesn't feel well.
That was never us.
No, we went to the nurse, and the
nurse said, sit here, lay down.
He's an aspirin.
I know.
I know.
I know.
Meanwhile, more lawsuits.

(01:55:53):
Facebook.
PayPal or Venmo accounts, you might have some
money from Facebook inside.
Facebook started sending out $40.67 payments to
users as part of a class action lawsuit
over its mic button.
Where's my money?
The suit claimed that Facebook used cookies to
track users even when they were logged out
or using other websites.
Facebook agreed to settle the suit but did

(01:56:14):
not admit to any wrongdoing.
They got to end that, too.
They should have to repent.
We did it.
We're sorry.
Here's your $40.
They should be forced to admit wrongdoing.
And Google, also on the block for the
millionth time, of which, of course, just a
fine will be paid and nothing else will
happen.
This is really a big blow to the
company.

(01:56:35):
A big blow.
The U.S. judge in the state of
Virginia essentially saying that Google held an illegal
monopoly over key parts of the online advertising
market.
Now, this all stemmed from a lawsuit from
the U.S. Justice Department as well as
17 individual U.S. states that argue that
Google dominated three essential tools in ad tech,
namely publisher ad servers, ad exchanges, and tools

(01:56:56):
used by advertisers.
Picture any website that you use that has
advertising.
Look at the top banner, the banners on
the left and the right.
These all come from deals that Google strikes
with advertisers who then are allowed to place
their ads on millions and millions of websites
across the Internet.
Now, the court agreed partially, saying the company
locked in publishers and blocked out rivals.

(01:57:17):
The judge also ruled that Google removed key
product features and forced customers to stick with
its tools, which in turn hurt competitors and
the competition and customers.
Google has denied hurting the market, saying that
it will appeal the judgment in a statement
saying that it did win half the case
today and it will go on to win
the other half.

(01:57:38):
It's such a racket those guys have.
They have the buy side, they have the
sell side, they got the tools, they got
everything.
Everything.
This is total scam.
Yeah, they figured it out.
Total scam.
Total scam.
And my final, and this is, we have
talked about this for well over a decade.
We have warned about this.

(01:57:58):
We probably have even framed it as such.
The best jail, the best jail, is the
one that you let the inmates build themselves.
And we are here.
Some police departments are using a new tool,
those home doorbell cams, to create a crime
-fighting camera network.
But as Steven Romo reports, the privacy questions

(01:58:19):
have some critics concerned.
Across the country, crimes are being caught on
doorbell and surveillance cameras every day.
Now, more and more police departments are leaning
into this technology, getting homeowners and businesses to
share their video with local law enforcement.

(01:58:41):
The goal, to create a network of cameras
to fight crime.
We're seeing more frequent apprehensions and faster apprehensions
of suspects.
In Washington, D.C., their Camera Connect program
and Realtime Crime Center launched early last year.
In that time, they've seen a 35%
reduction in violent crime, a 30-year low.

(01:59:03):
And they say the tens of thousands of
new camera registrations they've had so far will
be an important tool to continue that trend.
This program allows for those that wish to
provide information to us to remain anonymous.
And it makes it more of a comfortable
interaction rather than having an officer knocking on
your door.

(01:59:24):
This is so bad.
And part of it is because people just
love capturing this stuff on their cameras.
Like, oh, I can't wait to post that
to TikTok.
Oh, look, I caught a fight.
I put it on X.
It's true.
Look, there's a rat.
Oh, that plane fell out of the sky.
The rat.
That plane fell out of the sky.
I had it.
I had it.

(01:59:44):
I'm on the news.
Similar programs are in place in jurisdictions coast
to coast.
And while the rules can vary, it generally
works like this.
When homeowners register, they can join a list
of available cameras that law enforcement can turn
to in an investigation.
Police can request video from them, and the
homeowner can then choose whether to provide that

(02:00:05):
video or not.
Yeah, you want to send that to us,
don't you?
I mean, you wouldn't want to hold back
any evidence, would you?
I mean, seriously.
I mean, I think it's probably a good
idea if you give that footage to us,
don't you think?
Businesses that sign up can take it a
step further.
They can opt in and provide their live
surveillance feeds, giving police departments access to their

(02:00:26):
cameras in real time.
And while police say they've seen success, privacy
advocates have serious concerns about handing over this
kind of access.
When you justify surveillance by saying that it's
only going to be used against the most
violent criminals, what you end up seeing is
those technologies become slowly over time an everyday

(02:00:46):
aspect of policing.
Many police departments emphasize these programs are voluntary
and designed with privacy and transparency in mind.
We are not passively watching camera feed and
watching people live their day-to-day lives.
New uses for the latest technology to help
keep us safe.
You can't stop it.

(02:01:07):
The Skynet is here.
Yeah.
We're building it ourselves.
And you know what?
If I go to someone's house and I
see one of those cameras, I'm going to
call them and walk away.
I'm not coming to your house.
Take that ring camera down.
Why don't you just take some shoe polish
and put it right over the lens?

(02:01:29):
Oh.
Yeah.
I'm going to rip it right off and
put it in my drawer next to my
phone.
None of this is good.
But again, I'm telling you, it's because people
love it.
Oh, yeah.
I got this.
I got this.
I got him.
I got him.
My clip went viral.
I'm awesome.
I'm awesome.

(02:01:51):
A rat.
Hey, if you catch the pizza rat, that
could be worth some money.
Pizza rat.
Yeah.
Hey, with that, I want to thank you
for your courage in the morning to the
man who just put the C's in the
crime-fighting camera network.
Say hello to my friend on the other
end, the one, the only, Mr. John C.
DeMora.

(02:02:13):
Yeah, well, in the morning to you, Mr.
Adam Curry.
In the morning, our ships and sea boots
hit the ground.
Make sure your stuff is in the water
and all the games and nights out there.
In the morning to the trolls in the
troll room.
Wake up.
We're stuck in here with trolls missing one
line and one line.
1912, not bad for an Easter Sunday.
Aren't you people out hunting eggs?

(02:02:35):
1912 stinks.
For a Sunday?
Well, for a holiday, you know, nobody comes
and listens.
This is why nobody does work.
This is why nobody works.
I've said it before.
Yeah.
This is why nobody works on these holidays
except us.
Yeah.
Because nobody's around.
They don't listen.
They're actually doing something.
They're living their lives.

(02:02:55):
No, people always want to check in with
us.
I mean, again, we do this.
Maybe they'll download later.
Maybe.
We do this as a public service for
everybody.
It's important.
If we don't point it out, who is
going to?
Everybody else is on the take.
One way or the other, they may not
even know it, but they want to be
popular.
We clearly don't want to be popular.

(02:03:17):
Yes, I guess that's true.
We gave that up a long time ago.
Hey, man, you guys should see the video.
We need to do video.
The trolls are in the troll room, trollroom
.io. This is just one of the many
features we've been doing for, oh gosh, over
15 years with the live chat and streaming.
We were on that so early.

(02:03:38):
Why did we even decide to do that?
You did.
It was all you.
It was me.
I was against it.
You were against live streaming?
I thought it was unnecessary.
And how do you feel about it now?
I was in the pure side of the
podcasting formula.
How do you feel about it now?
I think it's fabulous.
Yeah.
I was completely wrong.
You were right.

(02:03:58):
Oh my God.
I can't believe this.
This is like the whole week I've been
right.
You can also listen to it on the
modern podcast apps, which I recommend you give
them a go, podcastapps.com.
You know, the big, what's it called?
Pocketcasts.
Pocketcasts, which originally, Pocketcasts, I don't know if

(02:04:19):
you know the story behind it.
No.
It was an app that was built by
NPR and PBS, and they all put like
$50 million into building this app.
That sounds right.
And it wound up, you know, the whole
thing fell apart, and then it was sold
to another group, and that group, because it's
very hard to make money on a podcast
app, unless, you know, people just want to

(02:04:42):
support the developer, which you should do.
Most apps have a way to support the
developer through premium something or other.
You should do that, because that improves your
app over time.
And ultimately, Matt Mullenweg's outfit, Automatic bought it,
the guys behind WordPress, and they open sourced
it, and they have now added all these
podcasting 2.0 features.

(02:05:02):
Including the funding tag, which is cool.
So if you use Pocket Cast app, if
you want to support the show, there's a
button right there.
Just look at the app right now.
It says support the show.
You click on it.
Boom.
You go right to our donation page.
Is that right?
Yes.
It's another Podcasting 2.0 improvement to podcasting.
Yep.

(02:05:23):
Wow.
Yeah.
I'm impressed.
Well, thank you.
Thank you.
That was one of the first things.
You didn't do it?
I was a big part of it.
Yeah.
We all, this is the whole group.
The whole group is about 150 people.
The group's been together for five years.
Yeah.
It's, you won't find that.
That does stem from NPR, you said.
No, but that's, NPR did nothing.

(02:05:45):
They tried to sneak in an ad thing
called Red.
Red.
R-A-D.
Red.
I don't know.
A radio advertising directive or something.
That thing fell apart.
And so, you know, no, none of these
features were in there when it was bought.
No.
That's new.
That is, that is a 2.0 feature,
my friend.
You will not find that on Spotify or

(02:06:05):
Apple.
Uh-uh.
You can get those at podcastlapse.com.
You're a saint.
I don't know about that.
I don't know about that.
Well, you're sniffling.
Yes.
It's getting worse as the show progresses.
Yes.
I think it's, there's something about you that's,
that spurns it all.
It's the COVID.
Yeah.

(02:06:26):
You can't blame me.
It's the COVID.
I had nothing to do with it.
It's Dutch COVID.
Dutch COVID is what I got.
as we mentioned, we've been doing this for
over 17 years and, uh, the way we've
been able to sustain our transparency, our honesty,
our integrity, and quite frankly, our lack of,
quite trans, our lack of global success is

(02:06:47):
by our value for value model, which means
you don't get ads, you don't have to
pause for anything.
Oh man, it's gotten so bad now with
the ads.
Do you listen to any other podcasts ever?
I do.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like what?
Well, I don't have any one that I
listen to over and over.
I just listen to a variety of podcasts.
I sent you one this morning.

(02:07:09):
The, the YouTube podcast.
That's not a podcast.
That's a YouTube video.
Well, it's a guy with a, well, okay.
There's a guy with a, one guy with
a microphone and he's wearing a beanie and
he's not Tim Pool.
That's a podcast.
That's liberty.
The new uniform for podcasters is a beanie,
you know, and cans.

(02:07:30):
You got to have the cans over the
beanie, the cans.
That's it.
That's what we need to do.
We need to have beanies.
We got to have beanies over the can.
I think that would be good.
That would be a good look for us.
Not beanies over the cans.
The cans are under the beanie.
I think.
Cans over the beanie.
No, the cans are over the beanie.
Yeah.
Well, there you go.
The cans are over the beanie.
I've already helped our artists with the art
and guaranteed we won't choose it.

(02:07:51):
Cool.
I have two or three of those already.
Guaranteed.
Yeah.
They won't get picked.
Don't do them.
Value for value is how we decided to
move this ball forward, and it's been okay.
I mean, it's certainly, it's been a ride.
You know, imagine, like, you look at your
check at the end of the month, like,
oh, it's much less than it was the
month before.
Why?
I don't know.

(02:08:11):
You suck.
Okay, thanks.
Got it.
Or, hey, we did well.
People liked us.
People, but we can't kowtow to anybody because
that's when it just doesn't work.
The audience capture thing doesn't work.
People who want you to say certain things,
they never donate.
Have you noticed that?
Oh, yeah.
That's why we don't do it.
We know this.

(02:08:31):
Yeah.
We've been around a block.
People are like, oh, you got to talk
more about this.
You got to talk about Epstein.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If you don't talk about Epstein, you know
how they control everything.
Epstein.
Maxwell.
Where's the list?
I want to see it.
Yeah, I want it, too.
There is no list.
And Diddy.
Do you really think there's a list of
clients and has behind it, oh, likes this,

(02:08:54):
likes this, has a penchant for that?
Do you really?
I don't think so.
I think so.
You think that list exists?
No.
They destroyed it.
I don't think it ever existed.
I mean, you don't know your clients well
enough.
You have to write that down.
Oh, he likes the feather.
Too many people.
There's a massive amount of people.

(02:09:16):
You need the details.
Well, we want the list.
I agree.
We want the list.
Yeah, we want the list.
And you know what?
Or at least come out and say that,
or at least come out with the BS.
There is no list.
We tried and tried and tried.
Pam Bondage can come out and do that
at any time.
She can say we're wrong.

(02:09:36):
We thought we had something here.
We don't.
I mean, just tell us the truth instead
of dangling it.
Yes.
And how about that frazzle drip video?
Tell us more.
Frazzle drip.
I don't even know about that.
Oh, you don't want to see it.
Frazzle drip.
You don't know the frazzle drip?
No.
Oh, it's horrible.
I didn't want to tell you.
I would have called, if you had said

(02:09:57):
that out of the blue, I'd figure that's
a disease you have currently.
No, it's supposedly Hillary Clinton and Huma Abedin.
Torturing a child and cutting off the child's
face and wearing it like a mask.
There, I said it.
Oh, yeah, I remember that.
Yeah.
Oh, now you remember.
How could you forget that one?

(02:10:18):
That somehow that didn't leave, that it was
hard for me to get out of my
mind.
Bull crap is why.
Frazzle drip.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So.
Hey, we're going to do something really gross.
Somebody, anybody with a camera, anyone with a
phone that can take a picture of this,
so we can use it as evidence against
us.
And remember, it was filmed by Podesta.

(02:10:42):
Podesta.
Yes, it was Podesta filming, because you can
hear him laugh.
It's Podesta's laugh.
Everybody knows it.
Everybody knows it.
Wow.
This is turning out to be such an
Easter show, isn't it?
And that's beautiful.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Thanks to you.
What do you mean?
You brought it up.
I didn't.
Well, you pretend that you didn't know.

(02:11:03):
I didn't.
Value for Value is where we ask you
to support the show for the service that
we provide, free of charge.
There's no limitations.
We never ask you to jump through any
hoops, not even a registration.
You know, you can sign up for the
newsletter, which is also free, which you also
get in your mailing list.
And I'm surprised more people don't sign up
for it.
It's good content.

(02:11:25):
And it's funny.
And it always gives a little preview of
stuff we're going to talk about or what's
going on.
Memes of the week.
Some funny memes.
I got a hypocrite in there.
every, every newsletter has got a different one.
And I know you do a lot of
work on creating those hypocrite memes.
You got to look through somebody else's files.
Yeah, it's very difficult work.
Well, it's not as easy as it looks.

(02:11:46):
It used to be easier when the guy,
the guy, the most of these come from
Defiant L.
And he used to be, he used to
crank these out.
And then all of a sudden he became
like, Oh, everyone, you know, I think Trump
or somebody said, Hey, this guy's got some
good stuff.
So now he's pontificating.
He's clipping all kinds of stuff.
It's just like gone beyond.

(02:12:07):
He's gone.
He's got to jump to his head.
Jumped the shark.
He's jumped the shark.
Yeah, he has jumped the shark.
So one of the ways people support us
with time and talent is what our artists
do.
And our artists are very talented.
They've been talented for many, many years.
And a lot of them have picked up
the tools of the trade, the new tool.
I mean, back in the day, people were
using Microsoft paint when we started the show.

(02:12:30):
And then Mac draw.
I remember a lot of people use Mac
draw.
Mac draw.
And, and then slowly they came in with
some Photoshop and then there was a big,
Oh, I remember the controversy.
That's clip art.
Someone's cheating with clip art.
Those days seem silly by today's terms, don't
they?
Because now it's AI.

(02:12:50):
People are using AI, not all, but many
are using them.
Some have figured it out.
I'd say over half of the artists are
using AI.
Some are so good that we think it's
AI and it's not.
But all of it is at noagendaartgenerator.com.
And you can, if you're listening live, you
can just go there and refresh and see
the new ideas streaming in, which is fantastic.

(02:13:10):
And of course, all of these images make,
have a pretty good shot of being used
for the chapters, which you can see on
the modern podcast apps, including pocket casts.
Pocket cast has like 3% of the
market, which is pretty big for a, for
an app.
So our art for episode 1756, which we
titled AG Barbie, came to us from Dr.

(02:13:32):
Kelly.
And it was a, Hey Bill, pick me
girl.
And people loved this art.
I knew they would.
I knew it.
And, you know, people were really ready to
give up Linux.
Like, well, if Microsoft has girls like that,
I'm, I'm, I'm packing up my Linux.
I'm going to windows.

(02:13:52):
I saw him say it.
And this was of course, based upon a
story that you had never told.
I don't think I'd ever heard it before.
That, that Microsoft would send off these girls
to Australia to go work there because, you
know, they had to protect them against bill.
And, well, no, it's after they had the
affair with bill, they had to protect the

(02:14:13):
company.
Oh, the company.
Right.
Yeah.
Do you think that E.
Karen was one of them?
I don't know.
Maybe.
Remember the, the, the girl who used to,
she worked at, she got turned, turned down
a job at the CIA and then she
worked for Microsoft in the nineties.
Would this have been in the nineties?
Yeah, probably would have been the nineties.
And then she was sent over to run

(02:14:35):
the, run the outfit in, in Australia.
Well, if it's the, yes.
Yes.
Sounds like she might've been one of them.
Uh, so that was Dr. Kelly.
Dr. Kelly won anything previously?
No, this was Dr. Kelly's second, uh, submission.
Dr. Kelly has only been an artist for

(02:14:55):
three weeks, has only, uh, entered twice and
boom.
It happens.
Nailed it.
Nailed it.
That was really, that was the point of
controversy.
Cause we both wanted to pick the one
next to it, which was shrimp Barbie.
Uh, let me see.
Let me see.
Where was it?
Which, what was it with shrimp Barbie?
Well, you go find, Hey Bill, pick me

(02:15:16):
from Dr. Kelly is right next to it.
Uh, there's some, I believe you don't remember
this.
I traveled across the world.
Um, well, is it on the next page?
No, it's right next to the, the one
we picked.
I know, but I can't even find the
one we picked.
I think that's on page two for me.

(02:15:37):
No, no, it's on page one.
Hmm.
I'll tell you how many rows down.
Okay.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.
Ah, okay.
Shrimp Barbie is, uh, no, next to what
I have, the, the tech grouch on the

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other side.
Oh, Oh, Oh, there it is.
No, that wasn't the one we wanted.
The one, no, that's the one we wanted.
We wanted pick me too.
The guy with the, with the belly shirt
and the beard, the one above it.
The one above it.
Oh, well, your, your layout.
How many, four, I got four across.

(02:16:19):
What's your layout?
I got three across.
All right, go four across.
I don't want, yeah, that's the one I'm
talking about.
The guy with a beard and the, yeah,
but that's pick me too.
That's not shrimp Barbie.
It says shrimp Barbie on mine.
I'm talking about the one on the left
from blue acorn.
So we were talking about, Oh no, we
didn't want that one.
That's the one I wanted.
I thought that was great.
it's not.
The one you wanted was the same one

(02:16:40):
I'm talking about.
No, you were laughing.
We thought it was both.
We both thought it was funnier than the,
than the cute girl.
I was, I'm telling you, I was laughing
at the other one.
Well, that's a terrible one.
I thought that was funny.
Now the one I like, yeah, yeah.
You liked the shrimp Barbie.
I got you.
No, I like bad cook by Darren O

(02:17:03):
'Neill.
And you just thought it was a, yeah,
it was slop slop.
It was actually quite good.
Yeah.
When there's some other pick bills down further,
a little more cheesecake.
He, you know, the troll room is like,
well, what is this?
I hate this conversation.
You guys aren't playing along.
You have to get to the website and

(02:17:24):
play along.
If you're not on the website, it's boring.
Yes.
Well, they, they think it's all, this is
riveting.
Oh, this is so good.
This is inside baseball.
Oh boy.
Okay.
And you know what they do?
They don't donate and they don't, they don't,
no, they don't donate.
These people that they're complaining, do not donate.
They do.
All they want is just, you know, free

(02:17:45):
stuff right in the vein, right?
Exactly.
Well, thank you very much to our artists.
They're brand new artists, which I think is
just fantastic.
It was very, it doesn't happen a lot.
Dr. Kelly, welcome aboard.
You're on the, you're not on the leaderboard,
but you keep at it.
And by the way, you know, speak of
the tech grouch.
So I, I pulled up the text group

(02:18:07):
tech grouch.
Cause you told me there was on tick
tock.
Yeah.
And I showed it to Christina and Kevin
and, and even I was playing and I'm
like, it didn't age.
You got to do new ones.
Yeah.
Obvious.
It's very old.
Yeah.
And you have like 27 views.
Well, it's because it's just posted.
Nah, it's, it's, it doesn't have virality, man.

(02:18:29):
You gotta, you gotta start over.
You gotta, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta
remake the tech grouch anyway.
Thank you very much to all of the
artists.
And again, to Dr. Kelly and everybody can
participate.
Go to no agenda, art generator.com.
And now as we always thank every single
one of our financial supporters, that's one of
the teas of time, talent and treasure.

(02:18:49):
We thank everybody $50 and above never under
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Yes.
There are plea people who want to support
the show, but are embarrassed.
So they don't want to be known.
And, uh, we always thank our executive and
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imdb.com and we'll read your note $300
or above.
You become an executive producer, same credit lifetime
applies, and we will read your notes.
And as always, the top donors have the
shortest notes.
Earl Christopher comes in from Marshfield, Wisconsin with
$526 and 36 cents, which Earl says is
$500 plus fees.

(02:19:32):
Wow.
$26 in fees for using an app, man.
Thank you very much, Christopher.
You appreciate it.
And he says, you know what, if that
was a check, yeah, it was 15 cents,
15 cents, 15 cents.
We accept checks.
We do no agenda.
Donations.com explains it all.
And he says, happy Easter and a happy
Easter to you, Earl.

(02:19:52):
Thank you very much.
Sir, dude, named Ralph Commodore, sir, sir, dude
named Ralph in Miami, Florida at 421 85.
Happy Easter.
Another short note.
Happy Easter to you and your families.
This donation is to wish my dad, a
ref, ref, Rafael, a happy 85th birthday on

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Monday, April 21st.
And he's on the list too.
Very good.
Commodore dude, sir, dude named Ralph.
Chase Adams is in DeSoto, Missouri, 420 dot
69.
We got you.
Greetings, gents.
I've been a regular listen since listener, since
Rogan donation was a new thing, but to
my own misfortune, I have never been above

(02:20:35):
board with my three Ts and can only
call myself a dirty, dirty douchebag.
However, today marked a once in a lifetime
opportunity and mystical confluence of numerology that compelled
me to thank you for your time, talent,
and treasure with some of my own, though
no amount of money will be enough to
compensate for my incredibly small amygdala.

(02:20:55):
Hopefully this will help you help keep you
one more episode away from your impending backup
plane plan.
You mean exit strategy.
By the way, Adam, if you were looking
to celebrate today, operate a website, blazed deals,
blazed deals, which scans over 600 online cannabis

(02:21:15):
retailers.
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Oh, it's blazed dot deals, I guess, and
click the category of product you prefer to
find everything on the net order by milligram
per dollar.
Best value first.
Love you guys.
Thank you so much for what you do.
Could I get a de-douching a Rogan
donation and the B and the B, and

(02:21:38):
then it stops.
What happened to the rest of his note?
I don't know.
I need to talk to management about you've
been.
Oh, sorry.
Let me do that again.
I hit the dish.
You've been de-douched.

(02:21:59):
Rogan donation.
There we go.
All right.
Thank you.
Now we have MFDX of Anjou, which I
assume is in France.
We don't know for sure.
I don't know for sure.
Do we for 2069, another four 2069, which
is interesting.
He doesn't really have much of a note.

(02:22:19):
He just says, Elon should buy a blue
origin space flight for Dylan and five lucky
friends.
But he, what he does have is a
script.
Yes.
For a jingle request.
And what he wants is two Fauci wheeze
followed by a Fauci wheeze with a one
and a half second pause.

(02:22:40):
And then 6969 dude.
I think I can do it.
Please.
Please.
6969 dude.
Clearly he is recording this and wants to
ISO it and use it as a, as
a ringtone.
Ah, why else would you do it?
Of course.

(02:23:01):
Jessica Provencher.
Now it could be Provencher, but I think
it's Provencher.
She's in Toronto, Ontario.
Please de-douche me.
You've been de-douched.
I have no time or talent, but please
accept some of my treasure.
Happy 420 to those that partake and happy
Easter to all.
Jessica Provencher.

(02:23:22):
Merci beaucoup.
Onward with Sir Stoner Boner in Kent, Washington
420.
Simple and easy.
Happy Easter from Sir Stoner Boner.
Love you guys.
Oh, that's easy.
Thank you.
Stephen Massey, Hendersonville, North Carolina, 350 and 25

(02:23:46):
cents.
This donation is way overdue.
De-douche me please.
You've been de-douched.
And he says this executive producership is a
switcheroo for my wife, Mary Massey.
So let's make sure we do that right
away.
We'll put Mary in there so we don't
mess that up.
Her business was flooded by Helene and this

(02:24:09):
donation is in celebration of her launching a
new business, white lace and denim located at
the Tryon International Equestrian Center.
Hmm.
Can I get, do we have no website?
White lace and denim.
Can I get a dose of the best
business success yak karma available?
We will be scheduling a meetup at the

(02:24:30):
Silver Spoon Saloon in the near future.
Stay tuned.
All right.
Here's your yak business karma.
You've got karma.
Yeah.
We've got a sad, sad note coming up
here.
It's a sad note.
Is this one?
Yeah.
Sad note.
This is from the future.

(02:24:50):
Sir.
Friar Joe, a new Hartford, Iowa, three, three,
three dot six, nine, not that six nines
today.
I'm sending this donation with a heavy heart
to mark the passing of one of the
great nights of the no agenda round table,
Baron sir linemen of the net Raleigh Hawk.
Yeah.
We lost him.
Yeah.
On March 26th, he had a large benign

(02:25:14):
brain tumor removed and the procedure went well
and his recovery seemed to be off to
a great start.
Unfortunately, 12 days later, he collapsed at his
home on April 7th from what appeared to
be a seizure and a heart attack that
followed.
He never regained consciousness and passed officially on
April 13th at the age of 46.
No good.

(02:25:35):
Sudden death.
Raleigh punched me in the mouth back in
2019.
I have been a no agenda listener and
a producer ever since Raleigh was a elder
at the church.
I ministered at for six years and a
mentor and a very close friend.
I'm a bit lost without him.
And there are many people in Southern Illinois
mourning his loss.

(02:25:55):
Adam, when we noticed the beginning of your
faith journey, Raleigh and I would often refer
to Mark 1234, where Jesus says you are
not far from the kingdom of God.
So thankful to call you a brother in
Christ.
Please keep his wife, Robin and daughter Maddie

(02:26:15):
in your prayers, health, karma, all around the
future surge prior Joe.
Yes.
No, we're sorry that we lost him.
I've had many emails with the parents or
Lyman of the net Raleigh Hawk.
Yes.
And yes, Robin and Maddie are in our
prayers as a Sir.
Raleigh has graduated.
And that is from Sir.

(02:26:37):
Future Sir.
Friar Joe.
Then we have David hominy.
We, I remember David haunting me broken arrow,
Oklahoma three 33 dot 33 resurrects it.
Seeker Dixit.
Hallelujah.
I'm sure I butchered that happy Easter to
no agenda nation.
My smoking hot wife, Kimberly, and I listened
to every show and love the media deconstruction

(02:26:57):
you both provide.
We would like to call our two people,
Taylor and Jenna.
Oh, as douchebags.
What am I doing?
It's the COVID it's the COVID for jingles.
We'd love Scott, Simon, Rev. Al respect in
China.
Asshole, no pagan karma, but made the risen
Lord bless all David and Kim hominy, broken

(02:27:20):
arrow, Oklahoma, suffering, suck a dash.
I'm Scott Simon.
R E S P I C T.
Donald Trump.
Don't trust China.
China is.
Oh, all right.
Nice.
Chris, I'm sorry, Charles Bosch.

(02:27:44):
You OCH in Scottsdale, Arizona, three, three, three
dot three, three, no note.
And so he'll get a double up karma.
Indeed.
He does.
You've got karma.
David Arneson, Plymouth, Minnesota, three 33.
He says, I haven't donated in a while
and I'm feeling guilty about it.

(02:28:05):
One question.
Have you ever looked into the Karen Reed
case?
Seems like a pretty shaky case against her.
Here's an entertaining video on it, which I
immediately, when I got the spreadsheet, when I,
Oh, I'll watch this entertaining video.
Yeah.
56 minutes.
Okay.
I'll have to watch it later, but thank
you, David Arneson for your support of the
program.

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Onward to associate executive producers.
Matthew Hodges starts us off from Burlington, Washington,
two 81 77.
Hello.
Long time.
Intermittent listener.
First time donor.
Please de-douche me.
You've been de-douche.
I started listening again with all the Ukraine

(02:28:48):
stuff in the news.
This is funny.
I guess when most people stop, most people
left, you guys are Russian puppets.
I was almost brainwashed by their message.
Thank you for shrinking my amygdala.
May God bless you both.
Thank you.
Amy's up next with a short row of
ducks, two 22 from Leawood, Kansas, and it's

(02:29:10):
a switcheroo.
She says this donation is for Richard M
of Leawood, Kansas in honor of his birthday
on four 20.
Please de-douche.
You've been de-douche.
Okay.
We've got this switcheroo.
Also play Obama, Adam's family.
No, no, no, no.
Keep up the good work.
Okay.
You know what?

(02:29:39):
Listen.
You're in my house drinking the booze.
Shame on you.
You know, back in the day, John, I
think the producers just did more work for
the show.
There was a lot of great jingles and
stuff.
Just seems like there was more then.

(02:29:59):
I don't know.
It's a cycle.
It's a very long cycle.
It's a very long cycle, and we're at
the depths of the bottom.
All right.
Yeah, that stuff was a lot better.
I mean, it was catchy.
We had people that had, I think maybe,
I don't know.
They had rhythm.
It's hard to say.
You know what?
It's before AI.

(02:30:20):
When people, you had to have rhythm, you
had to have chops to make something.
I think, you know, you might, I would
give you that one.
AI might be partly responsible.
It's hurting everything that's creative.
Cotton gin.
Or maybe it's helping.
Cotton gin says, maybe that speaks to the
quality of the show lately.

(02:30:42):
Maybe it does.
Maybe it does.
So why is he listening?
I don't know.
What are you doing, Cotton Gin?
Eli the Coffee Guy is still listening.
That's all that counts as far as I'm
concerned.
He's in Bensonville, Illinois at $204.20. And
he says, Happy Easter or 420 or both.
Regardless, let's all enjoy the blessings that the
good Lord has bestowed upon us also.
Happy Patriots Day.

(02:31:03):
April 18th and 19th.
Commemorate the ride of Paul Revere and the
Battle of Lexington and Concord.
And then don't forget, April 20th is Marshall
Law Day.
With all these great occasions to celebrate, we
suggest you enjoy a fine cup of coffee.
Ask Adam.
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(02:31:25):
for 20% off your order.
Stay caffeinated, says Eli the Coffee Guy.
And as a special donation segment extra clip,
here is a local news report about those
very reenactments.
It has indeed been 250 years since Paul
Revere rode and the Battle of Lexington and
Concord.
Lay down your arms!

(02:31:46):
The spicy rebels disperse!
With the field!
The Lexington Minutemen took to the battle green,
conducting the reenactment of the Battle of Lexington.
More than 300 British soldiers came here to
Lexington, literally from overseas, to take part in
this historic reenactment.
Eight Americans we know were killed, several others

(02:32:08):
wounded, and it all happened 250 years ago
today, Jordan.
Then Concord also marked the battle with a
dawn salute, and check this out.
Right now we're expecting to see some cannons
and potentially some muskets fire off.
Or maybe right now.
How's that for timing?

(02:32:28):
That is exactly the moment I wanted us
all to see in replay for when Mike
heard that cannon go off.
Too funny.
Yes, such a great tribute to the...
Yeah, he's now deaf, by the way, we
should mention that.
I went to Lexington Green.
It's a very impressive place.
The shot heard around the world.

(02:32:49):
Look it up, people.
We're going to get a lot of these
250-year things in the next year.
A lot of things happened between this weekend.
Now and then.
Now and then, that's right.
Pat Eckert is in Rochester, Minnesota, $200 associate
executive producer for Pat, and Pat says, Show
1757 match week just happened in March for
resident doctors, where residents are informed of their

(02:33:11):
residency placements.
Oh, okay, this is a native ad.
I'm seeking a renter in Rochester, Minnesota for
a three-bedroom, 1.5-bath home for
rent featuring a one-car attached garage.
Priced at $2,000 per month, this property
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(02:33:32):
To view pictures and obtain additional information, please
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As a special offer, mention the code name
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Well, how about that for a deal?
Thank you for your diligent effort, boys.
Thank you, Pat.

(02:33:54):
We're now the classifieds.
We're Zillow, basically.
We're classified.
We've always been the classifieds.
Well, talking about that sort of thing, we
have Linda Lou Patkin, who's last on our
list of associate executive producers from Lakewood, Colorado
at $200.
And she promotes herself by asking for jobs,
Carmen, and says for a competitive edge with

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a resume that gets results, go to ImageMakersInc
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Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.

(02:34:37):
Carmen.
Yes, we love Linda Lou.
We love Eli, the coffee guy.
They're always there to help us out.
And it must be working for them.
So we're very happy with this arrangement.
And I love the gigawatt coffee.
And luckily, I've never.
I love my truck.
Luckily, I've never, ever needed Linda Lou.
But maybe in four more years, I know

(02:34:59):
who to go to when I am ready
for my executive job search needs.
Thank you to these executive and associate executive
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And a reminder, we'll thank the rest of
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♪♪ Zippity-doo-dah.
Hey, I got some very disturbing, disturbing news.
Disturbing news about COVID.
COVID.
Trump administration has gone off the rails.
Did you see COVID.gov?
No, I did not see COVID.
Should I go look at it now?

(02:36:06):
You should go to COVID.gov. COVID.gov
is where you should be able to get
information about vaccinations.
We should be able to get information about
all kinds of things, except ivermectin, where you
can get free tests from the government.
But no, that has changed.
CBS News medical contributor, Dr. Selene Gounder, joining
us now to talk about these findings.

(02:36:26):
Let's talk about the White House Did you
see COVID.gov?
Do you see what it says now?
Yes, this has been floating.
This image has been floating around.
I don't understand why Trump has to be
in the image unless he's the leak.
Well, let's go to Selene Gounder from CBS
to understand if this is a problem.

(02:36:47):
If you haven't seen COVID.gov, definitely go
check it out.
Has the entire report on COVID coming from
a lab leak in China, not some pangolin
or some bat from a wet market?
CBS News medical contributor, Dr. Selene Gounder, joining
us now to talk about these findings.
Let's talk about the White House and the

(02:37:08):
2024 congressional report specifically saying COVID-19 most
likely came from a lab leak in China,
but many scientists still lean towards the natural
origin.
So unpack all of that for us.
So there's no smoking gun really for either
theory, but the strongest scientific evidence points to
a natural spillover, most likely at that wet

(02:37:30):
market in Wuhan in China.
So she's just going head on against it.
Live animals that are known to carry coronaviruses.
Hold on, stop.
I want to mention one thing with this
thesis of hers that's old and stale.
They could never find this so-called animal
that had this disease ever.

(02:37:53):
They've never found it in the wild on
any animal that's got the wet market right
there.
They can go through everything.
They could check.
Yep.
You done?
Yeah, I'm done.
In Wuhan in China where live animals that
are known to carry coronaviruses were being sold.
There was genetic material from infected animals, including

(02:38:15):
raccoon dogs that was found in the same
places where the virus was first detected at
that market.
Wow.
Raccoon dogs didn't even play during COVID and
she's bringing that out.
That's amazing.
And there's no direct evidence that the virus
came from a lab.
This is a new one, John.
It's a new variant.
Not just no evidence.
There's no direct evidence.

(02:38:36):
This is very tricky.
In places where the virus was first detected.
Wait, stop this clip.
This came from what?
The CBS?
Yes, Dr. Celine Gounder.
CBS.
Okay.
Yes, yes, CBS.
Yes, you know CBS.
This is the CIA's report.
At that market.
But why are they going back to this

(02:38:57):
old bromide?
Let's see if the clip gives us some
insight.
And there's no direct evidence that the virus
came from a lab.
U.S. intelligence reports say the Wuhan lab
did not have SARS-CoV-2.
How about this for a theory?
How about there never was COVID, it was
just the flu, and she's not lying.
There was no direct evidence for COVID from

(02:39:19):
a lab.
No, maybe it was just the flu.
Remember, the flu was gone.
There was no flu.
Flu was zero.
Zero cases of flu.
Everybody had COVID.
Right, and then they were killing them off
with the ventilators.
Yes, and remdesivir and all kinds of other
nastiness.
Maybe, and with just an unhealthy population.
So maybe she's right.

(02:39:39):
Maybe there was no COVID from the lab,
or from the pangolin, or the raccoon dog,
or anything.
I have COVID now.
I'm a living.
The virus that causes COVID, or a close
precursor even, before the pandemic started.
Okay, so the government claims the virus contains
a genetic feature that does- Did she
say government?

(02:40:00):
Go ahead again.
It sounded like she said the government.
SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID,
or a close precursor even, before the pandemic
started.
Okay, so the government claims the virus-
Government.
She said government.
Yeah, she said government.
Government.
Okay, so the government claims the virus contains
a genetic feature that does not exist in

(02:40:22):
nature.
Is that accurate?
So that claim is misleading, because they're talking
about a part of the virus, what's called
the furin cleavage site.
Cleavage?
Which helps the virus to infect human cells.
And it was unusual when scientists first saw
this, but that's because they didn't know to
look for it.
And since then we've- I love this.

(02:40:44):
I love this.
And since then we've learned that similar furin
cleavage sites are found in other coronaviruses that
infect animals.
So this is not a proof of virus
engineering.
It's really something that can occur naturally.
Yes, like the flu.
So this change of the website, this has
got to be concerning for you, doctor.

(02:41:05):
Okay, so CBS News reports the Trump administration
actually replaced government websites- Government.
Another government.
She's talking about government websites.
Government.
Replaced government websites with simplified messaging focused on
the lab- Simplified messaging.
Leak theory.
Is that concerning?
Well, it is concerning because- Should you

(02:41:25):
be concerned?
It's very concerning.
Communication should really be grounded in facts, in
science, questions even, but not politics.
And replacing nuanced scientific content with a single
unproven narrative is really misleading to the public.
And it does undermine trust in government guidance.

(02:41:46):
And so if you have another pandemic or
other crisis hit, you want the public to
feel like they can trust the information they're
being given.
And this really does undermine that trust.
That train left the station years ago, lady.
Nobody trusts the government no more.
Uh-uh, that's all over.
Even Australia was just blown away by this.

(02:42:06):
And U.S. President Donald Trump has sensationally
transformed a government website that once contained resources
for COVID-19.
And he's turned it into a promotional page
for the lab leak theory.
COVID.gov no longer holds info on vaccines,
testing, treatments, but instead traces the virus to
Wuhan in China and accuses key public figures

(02:42:26):
there of pushing a preferred narrative.
To tell us more about this, we're joined
by political scientist Simon Jackman in studio.
Simon, good to see you as always.
Thank you.
What are some of the big claims being
made on this site right now?
Claims.
Well, it revives the so-called lab leak
thesis, number one.
And in particular, it goes very hard-
Hold on a second.
I thought that we already transferred to the

(02:42:48):
lab leak thesis over a year ago.
No.
So you don't- How do you revive
something that is the standard thesis?
It's not- This is- What are
these guys trying to do here?
Rewrite history?
Gaslight.
Gaslight.
Gaslight, of course.
But for what end?
Well, because Australia was one of the most

(02:43:12):
locked down countries in the world.
They can't- The mainstream, the M5M, the
government, they cannot admit that they were wrong
in any aspect of this because then people
might try and kill them.
Or whatever.
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah.
Doesn't that make sense?
Yes, I think it does.

(02:43:32):
Against people who were in the Biden administration,
and indeed in some cases in Trump Mark
I, charged with taking care of this pandemic.
Yes, Trump Mark I.
I like Mark I.
I like Mark I, too.
Trump Mark I, Mark II, Mark I.
Charged with taking care of this pandemic, Dr.
Fauci in particular.

(02:43:53):
It goes very hard at him.
It goes very hard at people working alongside
him.
Indeed, anybody who was running, I think, public
health at the time- Did you see
what he's talking about?
Ha ha ha ha ha.
We were- Wow.
Because anyone who was running public health at
the time, the mainstream media was part of
public health at the time.
That's why he's laughing.
Ha ha ha.

(02:44:14):
Don't come and kill me, Aussies.
Very hard at him.
It goes very hard at people working alongside
him.
Indeed, anybody who was running, I think, public
health at the time, come in for a
serve there.
They have essentially taken a report by the
Republican-controlled House of Representatives and put that
up almost in its entirety as now, as

(02:44:34):
we said in the intro there.
That is what the US government is putting
forward with respect to information about COVID now,
never mind the fact that hundreds of people
a week across the United States are still
dying from COVID.
Still dying from COVID.
Or with COVID.
Or of COVID.
What was it?
People are dying- Yeah.

(02:44:57):
Hundreds a week are now still dying from
COVID.
Yes.
They are?
Well, people die from pneumonia.
Yes, hundreds die from pneumonia.
That's not COVID.
No, of course not.
People didn't- They died with COVID.
We all know.
We all know.
We were there.

(02:45:17):
We are not going to let the M5M
change our mind.
A note from the constitutional lawyer, Rob.
Adam, life imitates no agenda.
Y'all have discussed all the ozempic marketing,
the efforts to get it covered by insurance,
the health risks that these drugs entail, and
the abject lack of transparency shrouding the whole

(02:45:37):
operation.
You even talked about ozempic-induced blindness.
Well, now there's a lawsuit in New Jersey
claiming that ozempic made a woman go blind
by inducing a condition called non-arteritic anterior
ischemic optic neuropathy.
Ischemic.
Ischemic?

(02:45:58):
I think.
It's I-S-C-H, isn't it?
Ischemic.
Non-arteritic anterior ischemic optic neuropathy, or NION.
N-A-I-O-N.
According to the lawsuit, NION happens suddenly, often
when people wake up blind in one eye.

(02:46:20):
It's irreversible, and 15% of the time
it spreads to the other eye.
According to the lawsuit, Novo...
This isn't good.
According to the lawsuit, Novo Nordisk had a
lot of evidence linking ozempic to NION but
failed to warn anyone.
At the same time, Novo Nordisk was spending
hundreds of millions of dollars to have obesity

(02:46:40):
classified as a disease to ingrain these drugs
into the pop culture zeitgeist and to get
private insurers to cover the drug.
I say again, life imitates no agenda.
Yes, well, we have warned for this because
we read stuff.
Yeah, that takes a genius.
But here is the worst.

(02:47:03):
And Sharon Osbourne apparently has this new side
effect known as ozempic feet.
Oh, this is new.
Yes, it is.
You have my attention.
Ozempic feet, gnarly side effect of weight loss
drug exhibited by some celebs.
Yes.

(02:47:25):
So apparently, your feet go all curled up.
Your toes curl and you can't uncurl them.
And they have pictures of Sharon Osbourne apparently
with COVID feet.
So, yeah, it just looks like your toes
are cut off because they're all curled underneath.
You can't stretch them back.

(02:47:46):
It's a tendon issue.
Yeah.
Yes.
Huh.
Fans noticed Osbourne, 72, had wrinkly feet.
The fans speculated it could be a result
of her ozempic usage.
She's walking around barefoot?
What are they talking about?
Yeah, yeah.
Pictures of her on the couch.
This cannot be a good product.

(02:48:07):
I don't think so.
It just can't be a good product.
I don't feel like it's a good product.
But it doesn't matter because there's help on
the horizon.
Eli Lilly announcing potential encouraging news for millions
of Americans with obesity and type 2 diabetes
promising new data suggests the company's new daily

(02:48:28):
pill could revolutionize weight loss as we know
it.
The drugmaker says results from a late stage
trial shows their daily pill may be another
option similar to ozempic and other popular injectable
drugs but without refrigeration or injections necessary.
Joining us now with more on this is
endocrinologist and obesity expert Dr. Rekha Kumar.

(02:48:48):
Doctor, thanks for taking the time.
We know that the common GLP-1s are
administered with an injection.
How does this pill work and why is
it different?
So this pill is different because it can
just be swallowed.
It doesn't matter, you know, with food, without
food, with water, without water.
The current GLP-1 that's oral that's on

(02:49:10):
the market, ribelsis, has a lot of stipulations
around food and only four sips of water.
So this is different because it's a daily
pill versus a weekly injection.
Time of day doesn't matter.
And we're seeing results that appear to be
basically as good as the injectables that we
have on the market.
I mean, we're finally here.
It's about time.

(02:49:32):
I mean, eat all the junk you want.
Doesn't matter if it comes in a bag,
has a barcode.
You can have the pill with the junk.
You don't need four sips of water.
You can swallow it with your milkshake.
This, my friends, is what America is all
about.
This is what we do.
What exactly did this trial study show and

(02:49:54):
are there any side effects patients should be
concerned about when it comes to this new
pill?
Well, yes.
You've got the COVID gnarly feet.
You've got the blindness.
You've got the anal leakage.
But don't worry.
So what this trial showed was that this
medicine was great at lowering blood sugar as
well as...
They've actually said it's great.
What study says, hey, this is great.

(02:50:15):
Reducing body weight.
It was a 16-pound weight loss at
40 weeks, which is tracking to look like
the weight loss we see in Ozempic, Wegovi,
a little bit under Munjaro.
And the fact that this doesn't require refrigeration...
Wait, wait.
Munjaro did better.
Munjaro outperformed everybody.

(02:50:36):
It sounds like it.
If you're going to go for the shot...
This is news to me.
Yeah, I didn't know it either.
I think if you're going to go for
the shot, Munjaro is the way to go.
And the fact that this doesn't require refrigeration,
it's not an injection, and can be taken
by mouth is great for people that might
have an aversion to pills or an aversion
to injections.

(02:50:56):
So it offers another option.
It's just another option.
I am not a medical doctor.
We are not giving you any advice.
But stay away from this stuff, people.
This can't be good.
Yeah.
So while we're on the topic of ingesting

(02:51:19):
poison...
Fluoride?
I have a fluoride series of clips from
PBS that I thought were quite fascinating because
they brought somebody on to re-promote fluoridation
because all of a sudden, we're having these
issues.
Some states are dropping it.
Was it a representative from Alcoa, the aluminum

(02:51:39):
producer?
No, I don't think so.
But I didn't do a deep dive into
her background.
But she's obviously a stooge, and she wouldn't
answer one question.
By the way, this has been going on
on networks everywhere.
I wanted to clip some of this stuff,
so I'm glad you had it.
There are pro-fluoride people out on all

(02:52:00):
the networks right now.
Yeah.
Everywhere.
All right.
Well, let's stop right there because the reason
is fluoride is an industrial waste.
Poison.
And they don't know what to do with
it.
I mean, they're going to have to take
it and drop it off in the middle
of the ocean or something right now because
it's no good.
But so I want to reintroduce it into

(02:52:22):
the drinking water.
That'll get rid of it.
And so let's bring in some experts here.
Now, actually, I have to give the credit
to the guy on PBS here because he
does repeat a question twice that she never
answers.
He doesn't keep beating her up with it,
which I would have done, but you'll hear.

(02:52:45):
Earlier this month, Health and Human Services Secretary
Robert F.
Kennedy Jr. announced plans to end the federal
recommendation that municipalities add fluoride to their drinking
water.
The Environmental Protection Agency also said it was
reviewing quote, new scientific information about the risks
of fluoridation.

(02:53:05):
Given this renewed debate, we wanted to hear
one perspective from a community that did remove
fluoride from its water, the Canadian city of
Calgary.
Earlier this week, I spoke to Lindsay McLaren.
She's a professor of community health sciences at
the University of Calgary, and I began by
asking her why we started fluoridating water in
the first place.

(02:53:25):
In regions of the United States and elsewhere,
it was observed by local dentists, this was
back in the 1940s, that people living in
certain communities had kind of a staining of
their teeth, but their teeth also turned out
to be quite resistant to tooth decay.

(02:53:46):
And so it was figured out that this
was because of naturally high levels of fluoride
in the drinking water.
And so that gave rise to the idea
that we could actually do this intentionally and
in a controlled manner as a public health
intervention to improve the oral health of the
population.
We mentioned that some people have cited risks

(02:54:09):
associated with this practice.
And the current HHS Secretary in the United
States, R.F.K. Jr., he had a
recent visit to the state of Utah.
Utah itself became the first state to ban
fluoride in its water.
Here's what he said there.
In the era of fluoridated toothpastes and mouthwashes,

(02:54:30):
it makes no sense to have fluoride in
our water.
The evidence against fluoride is overwhelming.
In animals, in animal models, and in human
models, we know that it causes IQ loss.
Huh?
What?
Causes what?

(02:54:50):
IQ loss.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Huh?
I'm pretending to have been drinking the water.
So...
Oh.
Yes.
So, okay, so that's the key that he
wants, you know, let's get rid of fluoride
because it's not good for our intelligence.
We're all dumbing down.
So let's continue these clips and see what
she has to say about this.

(02:55:10):
So what about those arguments?
One, that in the era of heavily fluoridated
toothpastes, we don't need to add it to
our water.
And two, are there studies indicating that it
causes IQ loss?
So the point about being in the era
of widespread fluoride toothpaste is a good one,
but research and systematic reviews of research that
have been conducted in this era consistently show

(02:55:33):
that there is an added benefit of fluoridated
water above and beyond the widespread use of
toothpaste.
And then what about the studies that he
cited about IQ loss?
Yeah, what about them?
So, yeah, he has to re-ask the
question because she didn't answer it.
Right, about IQ loss.

(02:55:55):
Do you think she's going to answer it
this time?
After he asks again?
I'm guessing not.
Maybe she will deflect, deny, and defend?
I think you're right.
And then what about the studies that he
cited about IQ loss?
The main thing to say there is that
it's really not at all clear that fluoridation
is associated with those outcomes at the levels

(02:56:18):
that we're talking about for community water fluoridation.
There's many examples of things that are harmful
or toxic at high levels, but that are
innocuous or even beneficial at lower levels.
Hey man, what are you complaining about?
Lots of stuff that we put in the
water is toxic, okay?
But it can also be good for you.
So, turning to your experience, in 2011, the
Calgary City Council voted to remove fluoride from

(02:56:41):
its water.
You launched a study then as to what
the downstream impacts of that was.
What is it that you found?
So, we designed a large-scale study where
we collected data on oral health and a
number of other things from several thousand kids
in both Calgary where fluoridation was stopped and

(02:57:03):
in Edmonton, which is the other large city
in Alberta, which has several similarities to Calgary
with the main difference being that they had
fluoridation in place and it was continuing.
About seven to eight years after the decision
to stop fluoridation in Calgary, we observed quite

(02:57:23):
a big difference in the prevalence of tooth
decay among kids in the two cities.
A big difference.
A big difference.
What was the big difference?
It's a big difference.
What would you guess?
They had two cities.
One had fluoridated water.
One had no fluoridated water.

(02:57:44):
They noticed a big difference.
Much better teeth health in the fluoridated city.
I'm going to say like 90% better.
That's a guess.
I think that's kind of the implication.
I'd be like 90% to 100%
better.

(02:58:05):
Do we reveal all in this last clip?
Yes, we do.
Except for the brain damage part.
We can't talk about that.
The percent of kids who had tooth decay
in Calgary where there was no fluoride was
65% whereas in Edmonton where fluoridation remains
in place, it was about 55%.

(02:58:28):
A 10% difference.
That's big.
That's a big difference.
It's a huge difference.
55 versus 65.
Versus 65.
That's a huge monstrous difference that we should
all risk our mental health for.
A decade later voters there voted to put

(02:58:51):
fluoride back in.
He doesn't at any point say that's not
such a big difference, is it Doctor, or
whatever her name is, whatever her title is.
Farmer lady.
Professor.
A decade later, voters there voted to put
fluoride back into the water.
That has not happened yet.
Does your experience there help inform how Americans

(02:59:12):
ought to be thinking about this decision?
Certainly in the Calgary case, we were fortunate
to be able to build this study and
to demonstrate that there are consequences to removing
fluoride from drinking water.
It's not just an innocuous policy decision.
And so that information I think figured importantly

(02:59:34):
in the decision to reintroduce the measure, which
should be happening soon.
What I think I would also want to
add here is that if you decide as
a community, if you have a grown-up
conversation and decide as a community to not
fluoridate the water, that is one thing, but
you have to accompany that by a discussion

(02:59:56):
about what are you going to do instead?
Because tooth decay is not an innocuous health
problem.
It's a serious health problem.
It's very common, and perhaps most importantly, it's
almost entirely preventable.
And so what kind of a society are
we if we don't prevent an entirely preventable

(03:00:16):
problem that causes harm and pain?
And so then he went right back and
he said, but how about the IQ issue?
And she answered the question in the final
clip?
No, of course not.
He didn't beat it up anymore, but let's
go back to what she just said.
It's 55% in the fluoridated area versus

(03:00:38):
65% in the non-fluoridated area.
That is not preventing anything.
She says completely preventable.
She says tooth decay is completely, she said
this, completely preventable.
How is 55% complete?
It's not even half it's more than half

(03:01:00):
people getting it with the fluoride.
How does that make fluoride make it preventable?
This is unbelievable to me.
Here's the thing that Robert F.
Kennedy Jr. needs to explain.
The history of and they just call it
fluoride, but it's really hydrofluorosilic acid I believe,

(03:01:23):
which is released during strip mining, phosphate mining.
And they used to just release this fluoride
into the air, but it was in the
1970s I think the Department of Agriculture said
airborne airborne fluoride is causing damage to domestic

(03:01:45):
animals, it's crops, it's an airborne pollutant.
So they came up with environmental regulations.
This is all you can look this up.
Chat GPT it.
These companies had to limit their airborne pollutants.
So they were being caught in air filtration
systems which they then condensed into a water

(03:02:06):
-based solution.
They packaged that up and sold it to
municipal governments.
That's what happened.
They needed to get rid of this stuff
for the phosphate mining and they just came
up with this great story.
And even my periodontist, I told you this
story.
He was like, where do you stand on

(03:02:28):
fluoride?
Don't put it in your water.
That's not true, it saves so many children.
And then once he started looking into it,
which he never did, because it was just
rammed into his head in dentist school.
He said, holy crap, you're right, this is
no good.
You can get fluoride just as Bobby the
Op says, you can get it from toothpaste,
you can get it with mouthwash.

(03:02:52):
Your dentist can put it on your teeth
directly, which is probably the best way.
Yes, you can get it in the nice
tray with a nice tropical fruit taste.
Do you remember that?
When they put the fluoride...
Oh God, I used to hate that.
I don't think they do that anymore.
You get these two trays.
Okay, boomer.
And you'd be sitting there and then this

(03:03:13):
tropical fruit taste would be dripping in the
back of your throat, make you all nauseous.
And of course for me, the kicker was
when I read Legacy of Ashes, the CIA
story written by Weiner, Daniel Weiner, I want
to say.
And Uncle Don was in that book everywhere.

(03:03:34):
And I called Uncle Don and I said,
is this true?
He says, yeah, it's the way I remember
it.
And what was in the book?
It says the CIA would put fluoride into
enemy water camps so they'd become nice and
docile so they could take over the camp
at night.
But then this was PBS?
I guarantee you Alcoa has some kind of
sponsorship of PBS.

(03:03:55):
Because Alcoa did a lot of this.
Ugh.
People should just listen to the No Agenda
show and live longer.
Let's hope so.
Oh, man.
I think that was the last clip, wasn't
it?
Yeah, that was the last clip.
Okay, we are beyond our...

(03:04:19):
Uh-oh, time's up.
Time is up.
So I will...
I have two clips.
They're reasonably short.
Manga.
Manga, everybody.
Make Africa News great again.
I have a 45-second Africa News clip.

(03:04:59):
The report says missions in Lesotho, Eritrea, the
Central African Republic, the Republic of Congo, Gambia,
and South Sudan top the list of those
facing closure.
The news comes on the back of sudden
aid cuts to health and other social programs,
trade tariffs, and visa bans imposed on over
a dozen countries.
So we are giving up on Africa, as

(03:05:21):
you predicted.
It's all about North Pole, South America.
Africa no longer matters.
We're pulling out our embassies, which means no
more spies.
We're just done?
Do we just leave it to the Chinese?
Yeah.
Is that a good idea?
We're going to take...
We're going to do South America.

(03:05:43):
Which is better?
The Chinese have already taken over Africa, and
they're going to try to take over South
America.
We have to stop them.
That's where we stop them.
We can't deal with Africa.
Okay.
And then finally, Canadian news.
As Canadians prepare to go to the polls
on the 28th of April, current Prime Minister
and Liberal candidate Mark Carney presented himself as

(03:06:05):
the strong man to lead Canada against a
hostile neighbor to the South.
Donald Trump is trying to fundamentally change the
world economy, the trading system, but really what
he's trying to do to Canada, he's trying
to break us so the U.S. can
own us.
This is going to be a great election.
They want our land, they want our resources,

(03:06:25):
they want our water.
We want your women!
They want our country.
We're all going to stand up against Donald
Trump.
Oh yeah.
You sure?
I'm ready.
I'm ready.
Canada's top trading partner by some distance, buying
75% of Canada's exports in 2024.
So Donald Trump's 25% blanket tariffs on

(03:06:45):
Canadian goods and new 10% energy levy
have left the country economically vulnerable.
A vulnerability conservative challenger Pierre Paulier blames on
the incumbent.
You claim that you want our country to
respond with strength, but after the last decade,
half of which time you've been Justin Trudeau's
economic advisor, our economy is weaker than ever

(03:07:06):
before.
It's been the worst growth in the G7.
Since the Liberals scraped a victory in the
2021 general election, the conservative opposition have mostly
dominated in the polls, but Donald Trump's trade
war has turned the tables, putting the incumbent
Liberals out in front for the first time
since 2022.
Poor Canada.

(03:07:27):
I feel bad.
Why would you feel bad?
Because they know that it's partially true.
I mean, it's not like we want to
really own Canada, but parts of it parts
of it will be handy to have, and
parts of it I think want to be
part of America.
It's not like one giant country that all

(03:07:48):
thinks the same.
Because I make jokes to Canadians all the
time.
It's like, you'll be a 51st state.
Half of them go, that would be awesome.
The other half go, Trump.
Trump.
Trump.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know.

(03:08:09):
We're a real problem, economically speaking, with what's
happening now.
What are their choices?
What can they do?
Is it fait accompli?
They should get their act together.

(03:08:35):
Well, while Canada's getting their act together, I
knew you were fishing for something.
I was thinking, what can I do here?
Why?
Why do you have to blow the whole
thing?
No one needs to know our secret signals.
It's called professionalism.
It's usually something insulting or some one-liner.
I'm thinking to myself, God, what can I

(03:08:56):
say here?
He's not leading me down the right path.
You're hearing over 17 years of professional colleagues
working together, knowing exactly how we live, breathe,
and do our show.
It's a beautiful thing.
But then you had to go and lift
the veil.
Show everybody how to lift the veil.
Well, you do it all the time.
I do.

(03:09:16):
Hey, John's going to thank our supporters, $50
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Nathan Cochran starts us off.
He's in Franklin, Tennessee, and he came in
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He's one of your boys.
He's from Mercy Me.
Oh, yes.
He's another Mercy Me boy.
Yeah, we should have a Mercy Me donation.

(03:09:37):
We should have a Mercy Me donation.
Nathan and just come up with something.
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(03:10:20):
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That is one, and here's the second one.
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I don't know what that's about, but I'm
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It must have poked him in the eye.
Chris, by the way, wishes his birthday, Maggie.

(03:12:52):
Margie.
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Margie.
Oh, yeah.
It just says Margie.
He just made it up.
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This is in a short list here.
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(03:13:41):
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(03:14:03):
the world could make the argument that the
U.S. is setting Europe free.
Will the freed Europeans be able to remain
at peace with each other without the U
.S. lording over them?
Good question.
No, it's not a question.
We know the answer.
Yes, we know the answer.
And Sir Mark, by the way, he and
Dame Maria, we actually have a meet-up
report from Indy.

(03:14:24):
And I'll just read his note because he
loves her so much.
Happy April 21st.
Birthday donation for the lovely Dame Maria of
the Greek Kingdoms.
My best Dame smoking hot wife from your
awestruck husband, Sir Mark of the Greenwood, Warden
of the Crossroads.
And they're on the list, of course.
And thank you to these donors, $50 and
above.
We don't mention the under-50s for reasons

(03:14:44):
of anonymity, but we appreciate every single one
of you, especially those who do those sustaining
donations, which is any amount, any frequency, you
make it up.
Go to noagendadonations.com and support the show
with your numerology.
And again, thank you to the Executive and
Associate Executive Producers for Episode 1757.
Again, noagendadonations.com.
It's your birthday, birthday.

(03:15:07):
On No Agenda.
Happy birthday to Richard.
April 20th was his birthday.
That's today.
Commoner, Sir Dudename Ralph, which is his dad,
Raphael, a very happy one.
He turns 85 tomorrow.
Christine Tharp.
Happy birthday to her husband, Mr. Awesome, aka
Ron Tharp.
He celebrates tomorrow.
Also celebrating tomorrow, you just heard it, Sir

(03:15:28):
Mark.
Happy birthday and congratulations to his smoking hot
wife, Dame Maria of the Greek Kingdoms.
Chris says happy birthday to his smoking hot
wife, Margie.
She celebrates on the 22nd.
And Amy M., which is Benjamin M., happy
birthday.
He turns 11 on April 24th.
Happy birthday from everybody here at the best
podcast in the universe.

(03:15:49):
Now, before we continue, first we have a
night karma.
We always break for the nights.
This is Benjamin Doolan, poor knight of the
wood.
He says he's had a tough couple of
months and more ahead.
He could use some health karma and love
and lit from the Gitmo Nation.
On March 8th, he had a surgery to
amputate his left leg below the knee.
Made necessary by a misdiagnosis about a month

(03:16:11):
prior that missed a blocked artery in my
left leg.
As of today, I'm still faced with the
possibility of a second amputation above the knee.
I presume it's the on the right knee.
Life has changed.
Any prayers and well wishes, and of course,
no agenda karma.
The show remains the best podcast in the
universe.
Everybody be thinking of our night here.
Here's your karma, brother.
You've got karma.

(03:16:34):
And then we have a make good from
Ashley Williams.
This is from episode 1756.
She supported us with 333.
And somehow...
Oh, her note got cut off.
Yes.
She's from Norma, Illinois.
And here's the full note with my Instagram
account, OhHeySamsClub hit 333,000 followers this week.

(03:16:55):
Holy crap.
You need to post about no agenda.
I knew it was a sign to make
a first time donation to the best podcast
in the universe.
Aside from Influencer, my tax guy says it's
a real job, I can now add Executive
Producer to my resume, something our four human
resources would undoubtedly brag about to their peers.
It was my husband, Zach, who hit me

(03:17:15):
in the mouth early in the pandemic, and
the show has been instrumental in helping us
feel sane while everything has become increasingly not
normal.
Follow me at OhHeySamsClub, OhHeyWalmart, and OhHeyAldi on
Instagram, where I share all the things you
didn't know you needed, now featuring America-made
goods in America.
Now this is a good idea.

(03:17:38):
What a smart idea to be an influencer
for Sam's Club, Walmart, and Aldi.
That's a good idea.
Yeah, this is a noted genius.
Dynamite idea, yes.
Could you do OhHey?
You don't have Aldi's out here.
How about OhHeyNoAgenda?
I'm just saying, might be.
Yeah, there you go.
OhHeyNoAgenda, yeah.

(03:17:58):
Influence for us, thank you very much, we
appreciate it, and congratulations again with your executive
producership.
And now on to the meetups.
Meetups!
Meetups!
Meetups!
Meetups take place all around the world.
You can find the entire list calendar at
NoAgendaMeetups.com, and we love it when people

(03:18:19):
send in their meetup reports.
Here's the big one from the Indie April
Meetup.
This is Sir Mark.
And this is Dame Maria, with a chaotic
meetup today in Indianapolis.
Thank you for your courage amongst all the
chaos.
Sir Ohio Bloke, and I made it down
to Indie again.
Nice to meet up with everybody.
Great time as always.
In the morning.
Outer from Indianapolis.
Unfortunately, I am leaving early, but thank you

(03:18:41):
for your courage in the morning.
In the morning, Dame Trinity having a great
time in Indie after missing the last two
meetups.
It's great to be back with the family.
In the morning, John and Adam, Sir PBR
speaking.
Coming direct to you from the NPR Studios.
Sir Benny here, just watching Sir Mark using
his machine that Adam always talks about.

(03:19:03):
He's having problems with it, but wish you
guys the best.
Hi, this is Cindy.
Dame of the Titos from Carmel, Indiana.
I'm here to tell you climate change is
real.
We survived the tornadoes.
Hey, it's Gary here, and just a word
out to Elon and everybody else.
What good is Doge finding all the corruption
if nobody is getting arrested?
Brisky here, drinking some beer at the Blind
Isle.
Yo, yo, yo, this is Emily, the currently

(03:19:24):
employed fed.
Hey, John, can we uh, can we, miga,
can we make ISOs great again?
Get rid of AI.
This is Syrup of the Maple Bot.
I could not make the meetup today, so
I sent an AI agent to do my
meetup report for me.
Sounds good.
In the morning, everybody.
This is the evil Annette Miller cloning Syrup
of the Maple's voice just because I freaking
can.

(03:19:44):
Hi, this is Brandy at the Blind Isle,
hanging out with, um, No Agenda.
They really look like they have no agenda.
Live from Indianapolis, embrace the chaos.
Embrace the chaos.
That's a good one.
Did we come up with that, or did
they come up with that all by themselves?
Yeah, sounds like them.
I like it.
And thank you for putting your server in

(03:20:05):
your report.
We need more of those.
Here's Leiden, the Netherlands.
Ah, these guys.
Yeah, I think they were celebrating 420 early.
Baron Rob from Leiden.
Dranklokaal 1650 for another great meetup.
Thank you.
This is Rick.
In the morning.
Great meetup.
Great.
Hello, this is Adam, a big fan.
Thank you for the lot of value.
I never paid for any of it.

(03:20:27):
Hi, in the morning.
So, what would you do in the morning?
I'll do the rashi in the morning.
Hey, Pedro, in the morning.
In the morning.
Great meetup.
Thank you for organizing Rob in the morning.
For who is Peter, bartender of this evening.
Thank you very much.
This is Sir Henry.
In the morning.
Alright, thank you very much Leiden.

(03:20:48):
We go over to Japan.
I told you these No Agenda meetups are
bad.
They're worldwide.
This is the, I think, the Kyoto meetup.
Hello, Kyoto.
Come on in.
In the morning.
This is Sir Bill of Osaka coming to
you live from the host city of the
2025 World Expo.
And more importantly, the ITM Airport.

(03:21:09):
We're here at the Osaka Castle, viewing the
cherry blossoms and enjoying some adult beverages.
A good portion of the participants are ham
radio operators.
We'd like to wish JCD 73s on his
73rd birthday.
We're all glad we were able to pressure
you into renewing your call sign.
This is Sir Skull and Skrull.

(03:21:31):
ITM.
It's like a party.
In the morning, douche bag.
This is Casey from Osaka, Japan.
It's like a hanami.
ITM from John in Kyoto.
I lowered myself to come down and visit
the Osaka lowlanders, and we had a good
time, but we didn't get to eat whale
meat this time.

(03:21:51):
Maybe next time.
73s, John.
This is Sir 3D.
We had a great meetup here in Osaka.
Hi, this is Mike.
We had an amazing meetup under the cherry
blossoms and some amazing weather as well.
Really incredible.
Oh, by the way, listen to my podcast,
Adult Music, with the pink neon logo.

(03:22:12):
We talk about new classical and jazz albums.
Alright.
It was the Osaka meetup, I stand corrected.
And for those hams in Japan, do you
guys do digital?
I'd like to see if I can get
a little cue show going with you guys
on the digital ham.
Send me a note.
That should be fun.
I got 15 watts BEP.

(03:22:33):
We have a meetup taking place today.
It's the Ottawa meetup for Ottowans.
It's underway now.
Liam McGuire's.
That's the venue in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada.
On Thursday, our next show day, the North
Georgia two-year anniversary meetup.
Six o'clock at Cherry Street Brewing in
Alpharetta, Georgia.
And also on Thursday, it's like a party
in Sacramento.

(03:22:53):
Six o'clock Sackyard in Sacramento, California.
The douche, Devin, will be hosting that.
Many more meetups throughout June, as I can
see on the calendar here.
Go to noagentomeetups.com.
This is where you get the connection that
gives you protection.
All these people will be first responders in
an emergency.
And you get to hang out with some
fun people.

(03:23:14):
Send in reports, everybody.
Noagentomeetups.com.
If you can't find one near you, start
one yourself.
Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all
the nights and days.
You wanna be where you won't be.
Triggered or held lame.
You wanna be where everybody feels the same.

(03:23:37):
It's like a party.
And now we have the machine versus man.
That's right.
I come up with the real ISOs, the
ISOs that are made by people, by human
beings.
John has moved over to the dark side
and he only does his AI-generated drivel.
Slop, slop, slop.
Do you even have any ISOs?
I said you're one.
It was last night.

(03:23:59):
One.
One ISO?
Yeah, one.
One.
I'm using the one.
This is the way it's gonna be from
now on.
If you have nothing, because you've been picking
your own every time, so if you have
nothing, the one will back you up and
you'll have a good one.
I have four.
Yeah, you always have.
Well, you have four today, you'll have three.
I'm gonna hold yours.

(03:24:22):
Here we go.
Here's my first.
This is the best podcast in the universe.
That was pretty bad.
That's you.
No, that was not me.
That was not me.
Here's another one I have picked up.
Happy Easter to you and to all out
there listening.
That theory has been debunked.
No, I think I really, I do have

(03:24:44):
one that I think is worth it.
It's this one.
Oh, man, the show's over.
Yeah, come on.
That sounds like AI to me.
No, that's a kid.
Oh, man, the show's over.
That's not AI.
That's a real kid.
Play mine.
The show was magnifico.
I don't know, man.
Oh, man, the show's over.

(03:25:05):
Give it to the kid.
We give it to the kid.
John, you are such a mensch.
Thank you very much.
And now, everybody, it's time for John's tip
of the day.
So my tip of the day is not

(03:25:27):
to buy a Beelink.
It's an anti-tip of the day.
So what I did was I decided to...
Hold on a second.
Even though we didn't have official tips of
the day, without a doubt, Beelink at one
point would have been a tip of the
day.
You were telling everybody, oh, you got to
get the Beelink.
It's great.
Well, it's a cheap little computer that works

(03:25:49):
until it doesn't.
Yes.
And so, but, I mean, I'm still just
hanging in there, but I decided I'm going
to run Linux on this thing and see
if I can do it.
But then I said, well, you know, I
want to run live Linux.
So just stick in that USB stick and
make a run.
So you got to get in...
Okay.
If you want to run a live anything,

(03:26:11):
you get the ISO, which is the...
Yeah.
The image.
ISO stands for something.
I don't remember what.
Image something.
Is it the image of the disk?
Of the disk, yes.
But you want to run it.
You want to make it bootable.
And so you want to make a live
version of, like, for example, I have an

(03:26:33):
ISO of Linux that I could run.
Mint.
Mint Linux.
I think it's up to version 24 or
something.
It's ridiculous.
They still haven't got any good audio stuff,
which is weird.
Don't get me started.
You need to get a copy of this.
This is a handy product anyway.
It's called Balena Etcher.
Oh, yes.
Well, anyone who has ever made a live

(03:26:54):
Linux USB has a copy of Balena Etcher.
So that's my tip of the day.
Get a copy of Balena Etcher.
Make a live...
It's for USB.
It also burn a disk, but it's for
making live USBs, which is the easiest way
to do it.
You know, it's great.
I'm going to add to your tip.
You can actually then take your computer with

(03:27:15):
you and wherever you are, you just say,
hey, can I just borrow your computer?
Bam!
You jack that stick in there.
You change the boot order, and there's your
computer back.
First of all, you have to go into
the guy's system and change the boot order,
which is insulting.
Is it not insulting?

(03:27:37):
Maybe it's not insulting.
But, yes, you can do exactly what Adam
said.
But Balena Etcher is the way to make
these...
is the best way, at least currently.
There's other systems that do this.
I used something else before.
But it's a good way to do it.
But you want these live...
It's called live because it boots from the
little...
from the stick.

(03:27:58):
You don't have to install it on the
machine.
Because if I...
I was going to say, what is the
advantage of using the live, according to you
as the tip monster?
That way, when you take the stick out,
then it goes back to the old operating
system.
You still have everything.
You still have all your old stuff intact.
So, what happened to your B-Link that

(03:28:18):
you decided to go this way?
I'm getting a story.
I think it's the...
whether it's the B-Link itself, probably not
the B-Link itself, as opposed to the
SSD that is failing.
Yes.
So, what you're saying, this is a tip.
When your crappy old machine craps out, you

(03:28:40):
can still bring it back to life with
a live Linux USB.
Yeah, or you could run Windows off the
little USB, too, if you wanted to.
Oh, no, no, no.
Is there a live Windows?
You can make it with...
You can make a live Windows if you
want.
Whatever you do, don't make a live Windows
stick, people.
Get your Balena Etcher.
That's what you want.

(03:29:00):
That is John C.
Dvorak's Tip of the Day.
Go to tipoftheday.net, noagendafund.com.
And sometimes, Adam.
Created by Dana Brunetti.
Well, we have quite the bonanza coming up
on the live stream.

(03:29:21):
So, first of all, after today's show, Canary
Cry Talk News, and they will be doing
some eschatology with the false prophets in the
last days, which is a call-in discussion,
apparently.
But tonight, at 10 o'clock Eastern, a
420 Bowl after Bowl Easter special, Sir Spencer
and Dana Brunetti and Sam DeLorean will be
hanging out with Make Heroism and Mary K.

(03:29:43):
Ultra.
So you know they'll be spinning some value
for value tracks and having a grand old
time.
It's all live on the noagenda stream, trollroom
.io, or your modern podcast apps.
And we have end-of-show mixes from
GX2, a classic that I pulled for you.
We've got Matty J.
And brand new from Commodore Dubs, who will

(03:30:05):
have our customer service agent, Steve, the anonymous
Indian.
And, of course, we will return on Thursday
for more of your media deconstruction.
I'm sure something will happen that we'll have
to talk about.
Breaking news is all around us all the
time.
Coming to you from the heart of the
Texas Hill Country, where it actually turned out
a nice day today.

(03:30:25):
It's in the high 70s.
In the morning, everybody, I'm out of curry.
Boy, I want curry.
Oh, thank you.
And from northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C.
Bach.
We return Thursday.
Until then, remember us at dvorak.org slash
na noagendadonations.com.
Until next time, adios, mofos, a-hooey, hooey,
and such.

(03:30:47):
We're taking
things that are organisms and we're injecting them
into little kids' arms.

(03:31:08):
We just shoot them right into the vein.
We just shoot, just shoot, right into the
vein.
And we're taking things that are genetically modified
organisms and we're injecting them into little kids'

(03:31:30):
arms.
We just shoot right into the vein.
We just shoot, just shoot, right into the
vein.
We just shoot right into the vein.
We just shoot, we just shoot right into
the vein.
There's nothing embarrassing about a hen laying an
egg and you'd better lay one or it's

(03:31:51):
your neck.
I, uh, give them the old needle once
in a while.
I love eggs!
Egg prices are continuing to soar.
The cost of eggs has been soaring across
the country.
High cost of eggs.
So what's behind eggflation?
Pathogenic influenza, more commonly known as bird flu.
The worst bird flu outbreak in years that

(03:32:13):
has just swept through the country.
Tens of millions of birds have died or
been slaughtered.
Bird flu has reduced the egg-laying hen
population by more than 40 million.
40 million, that's astounding to think about that.
Looks like eggs are the new toilet paper.
It's extremely bad news.
You might want to consider alternatives.
This is an egg replacement item.

(03:32:33):
These chickens that were laying eggs, those are
mature hens, right?
So we don't get a mature hen overnight.
It takes some time for a chick who
hatches out of an egg to be lasting
us into the summer.
Can I offer you a nice egg in
this trying time?
Yeah, he's got an egg, you might as
well have it.
If you can't afford some dollar an hour

(03:32:53):
person in India, I mean, you can barely
speak English, this would be better than this.
The true AI.
Anonymous Indian, that's what we mean.
The true AI.
Anonymous Indian, that's what we mean.
Always name Steve.

(03:33:21):
Customer service, this is Steve.
The true AI.
Customer service, this is Steve.
Thank you for calling.
Anonymous Indian.
Customer service, this is Steve.
Yes, my friend.
Customer service, this is Steve.
What is your name, please?
Customer service, this is Steve.
Alright, listen very carefully, my friend.

(03:33:41):
Customer service, this is Steve.
I need to advise you that this call
may be recorded to help with better customer
service in the future.
Is that agreeable to you?
Did I take care of all your customer
needs in a timely and satisfactory fashion today?
Customer service, this is Steve.
The true AI.
Anonymous Indian, that's what we need.

(03:34:03):
Customer service, this is Steve.
The best podcast in the universe.
Adios, mofo.
Dvorak.org slash NA.
Oh man, the show's over.
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