1760 - "Mercenary Spyware" - No Agenda Show

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Yo, you have three, holy crap.
Adam Curry, John C.
DeVora.
It's Thursday, May 1st, 2025.
This is your award-winning Kimmel Nation Media
Assassination Episode 1760.
This is no agenda.
Celebrating 6,397 days and broadcasting live from
the heart of the Texas Hill Country here

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in FEMA Region No.
6.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I'm sick
and tired of hearing, I hope this message
finds you well.
I'm John C.
DeVorak.
It's crackpot and buzzkill.
In the morning.
Yeah, I'm convinced that that's just chat GPT.
If you get one of those and someone

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said, write a nice letter to my friend.
Yes, I hope this message finds you well.
And then there's the alternate, which is, I
hope this email finds you well.
What does this even mean?
Has anyone ever said this in real life?
I hope this message finds you well.
What is it looking for me?
Did it found me?

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And it found me well?
No, seriously, what does it mean?
What does this stupid phrase mean?
And why is it at the beginning?
And you're right.
It's obviously from chat GPT, because it's followed
by a lengthy sales pitch that goes on
and on and on and never gets to
the point.
What were they trying to sell you with
this time, with that opening?

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Usually some service or maybe we can get
more podcast listeners.
LinkedIn is filled with, I hope this message
finds you well.
LinkedIn has become a spam network.
Nobody likes LinkedIn anymore.
They're all, you know, like, I've got to
curate my feed.
I've got to close everything down.
I can't accept any more connections.
It's a mess.

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They really hoard that.
Once Microsoft bought it, they hoard that thing
out.
They made it bad.
They really made, I think they probably let
chat GPT loose on us.
Everybody could grab all the emails and profiles
and just spam away.
That's all that AI is good for.
Spam, deep fakes, humor.
Humor.
Humor.

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Yes.
And some Python coding.
Okay, I'll give you that.
Use some PHP scripts.
All right.
Dynamite.
Dynamite.
Before we even get started, John, we have
breaking news.
It came in this morning over the transformation.
Breaking, breaking, breaking.
We begin with breaking news.

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Sources are confirming to Fox News that National
Security Advisor Mike Walsh is out.
As well as his deputy, Alex Wong.
Additional names are likely to come, we're told.
And we expect to hear from the president
on this soon.
I'm Harris Faulkner.
You are in the Faulkner Focus.
I'm in the Faulkner Focus.
Oh, no.
State Department Spokesperson Tammy Bruce is also with

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me.
I love this.
We have not had Tammy Bruce show up
in any real capacity.
This is exciting.
So she's been on a lot.
You just haven't seen her.
Well, no, but she hasn't been on the
show because now it's breaking news.
Breaking, breaking.
And Tammy Bruce is going to tell us
exactly what happened.
Or, or is she going to waffle a
bit and be a propagandist, which is exactly

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the opposite of what she was when she
wasn't working for government.
I wonder which Tammy will get.
First, though, let's get the news of what's
coming together right now.
Tammy Bruce with the State Department is with
us right now.
So first of all, just kind of top
line this for us.
I mean, Jennifer has given us the news.
Top line.
Now, if someone says to you, John, we're

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going to John at the State Department.
Top line this.
What would we be expecting to hear from
you?
Probably the most succinct explanation that explains everything
right off the bat.
The top line.
And this is why we have no career.
We have no career in broadcast.
The opening, the opening, the headline, the lead,

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the headline from the State Department perspective.
Tammy.
Well, here's what I can tell you when
it comes to right off the bat.
Here's what I can tell you right off
the bat.
Here's what I can tell you, which is
nothing.
it comes to national security for the country,
the nature of the president.
A little laughter in there.

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I hadn't noticed that when I was clipping
it.
When it comes to national security for the
country.
it comes to national security for the country.
What does it with a life tell, Tammy
Bruce?
Nature of the president who's involved in making
determinations about this nation's trajectory, of course, economically,
when it comes to security and what we've

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seen and what we know from President Trump
is he's been very clear that his commitment
is to diplomacy around the world.
He is clearly an active and engaged president.
That I think is a man who comes
from business where this is so disappointing from
Tammy Bruce and his understanding of what needs
to occur is the guiding hand of everything

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that happens in this government.
And of course, he is hands on literally
when it comes to making things literally when
it comes to the implementation.
He has hands on walls.
What was he doing?
I don't know.
He's touching it, etc.
At every department, every day, whether it's the
State Department or the Department of Defense, or
of course, when it comes to who he
chooses to advise him, she gives us nothing.

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What kind of top line is that, Tammy
Bruce?
The disappointment of the century.
We loved you.
We loved you on Fox.
You were there to tell us to tell
it to us straight.
We loved you.
No, no.
OK, so let's do some propaganda.
That mission was done well.
So now they're talking about the mission of
which the top secret details were leaked on

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the signal and signal.
Oh, the Houthi bombing.
So we're going to move from let's not
talk about what happened to that was a
great mission.
Mission accomplished.
That mission was done well.
It was completed well.
And I think it's worth stating that all
of this is a leadership move now that's
happening.
But the actual mission that President Trump wanted

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worked out very well.
Your last quick thought will move forward.
Last quick thought you've given us nothing, nothing,
nothing.
Yeah, I think that's it.
When we're looking at the choices that are
made, when it comes to whether it's the
Houthis, the nature of diplomacy with Iran, which,
of course, always continues, bringing people to the
table regarding Ukraine and Russia, the situation in

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Gaza, the critical minerals deal, which is actually
a much broader deal with Ukraine, with money
and resources that will be reinvested into Ukraine.
And it's re-building after this horrible carnage
that has unfolded over three years.
So you've got major successes economically and otherwise
as inflation goes down.

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It is a historic first 100 days.
It has been aggressive, exciting, and America wants
to change by electing President Trump.
And we're seeing the benefits of his vision
on every single framework.
And it's been a success.
It will continue to be a success.
Complete and utter bullcrap.

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Propaganda.
That was terrible.
She did, that was a bad performance.
It was, it was disappointing.
Disappointing, Tammy Bruce.
I have a feeling that was the Laura
Logan spot.
I think she was supposed to get that
spot.
I don't know why she didn't.
Laura Logan would have done a better job
than that.
Well, that's the problem, because this is clearly,

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oh, let's just do some propaganda.
Because it's 100 days.
Now, just before we move on, I received,
we have.
Well, before we start, I have some thoughts
about this Walz thing.
Well, can I, can I just give you
a boots on the ground real quick?
Because we have the best producers and I've
got many producer boots on the ground.

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Regarding Signalgate, then yes, I want to hear
your thoughts about Walz.
As a military contractor, writes our boots on
the ground producer, with the Army and as
a Navy reservist, we are required to use
Signal in CONUS and OCONUS, which I think
is Continental United States.
And what's OCONUS?
Oh, Continental United States.
So the narrative that it's a commercial app,

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which you guys debunked, is false.
DoD uses it as the app of choice
for OPSEC, operational security.
I embed with the 160th, FOSCOM, which is
an unknown acronym to me.
All chats between us contractors and our Army
counterparts are on Signal.

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WhatsApp is only used by rear detachment Air
Force units.
Get in the back, you WhatsApp people.
By the way, Michael Strickars is a douchebag.
Just throw that in.
He says he turned me on to you
in 2019.
He doesn't donate.
So he's a douchebag.
So whenever they say commercial app, it is

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a requirement within the Department of Defense.
This is all, on its face, bullcrap.
But clearly someone had to go.
And I guess today we now know it
is.
Walt, your thoughts?
Well, Walt and Wong.
Well, Wong was the problem.
That's what everyone thought.
Well, we think he was the problem.
I'm wondering whether because Walt was set up

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with his Signal system by the CIA directly,
according to him.
Yes, and Wong was...
I think they set him up.
I think this could have been a setup
to get rid of him because...
He's annoying.
He was not a guy that anyone liked.
They didn't...
In fact, people that were Trumpers didn't like
him either.
But what's convenient here is that he could

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also have been a bargaining chip with trade
talks with the Chinese.
To get some Ting Wong back?
Because of some Ting Wong.
Some Ting Wong?
So, Wong was a Chinese national who was
anti-China.
And Walt was one of the biggest China
hawks.

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So, let's get rid of those two guys
and we'll start to talk.
And I think they may have been sacrificed.
Set up, set up to begin with.
Yeah, set up and sacrifice.
And the excuse will be, well, this Signal
thing, somebody had to take a fall for

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it.
Yeah.
Even though it is a required app, which
makes me question the Signal even more now.
Yeah, CIA, it's got a backdoor, obviously.
It has to have a backdoor.
It must have a backdoor.
Sure.
Well, all this comes amidst the most important
thing.
And I did the calculation this morning.

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We today, John, as of today, May 1st,
2025, are celebrating 6,397 days of broadcasting
to Gitmo Nation.
Congratulations, sir.
This is where you say congratulations.
Congratulations?
Yes, congratulations.
Because it's a lot more than this.

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President Trump, the first 100 days continues.
It continues.
The what?
First 100 days.
What is this 100 days thing all about?
I mean, I don't remember this the first
Trump go around.
I don't remember during Biden.
I don't remember.
The only last time I remember the first
100 days was, I think, when Steve Jobs
rolled out the Macintosh.

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No, I think 100 days has been around.
It has.
Well, they're milking it.
Well, of course, they're milking it, including the
BBC.
Donald Trump has been marking 100 days since
he was sworn in as the 47th president
of the United States.
And in case you missed any of it,
here's a reminder of the story so far.
Yes.
From this moment on, America's decline is over.

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Over.
Over.
I'm about to sign some very important executive
orders.
Military personnel to assist Border Patrol.
30,000 beds in Guantanamo to detain the
worst criminal illegal aliens.
The US will take over the Gaza Strip.
We'll own it.
Air Force One is currently flying over the

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recently renamed Gulf of America.
If all of the hostages aren't returned, let
hell break out.
The Department of Government Efficiency moves to revamp
and shrink.
I love the little drum roll in the
background.
Of the federal government.
People voted for major government reform, and that's
what people are going to get.
A dictator without elections.
Zelensky better move fast.

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Should I run again?
You tell me.
You should be thanking the president for trying
to bring it into this conflict.
Have you ever been to Ukraine?
You're not in a good position.
I was.
You don't have the cards right now.
Tariffs, you know, they're all set.
They go into effect tomorrow.
Hopefully we can get a ceasefire from Russia.
There were nearly 200 who were sent to
El Salvador.
Department of Education, we're going to eliminate it.

(12:45):
Details of the US attack plans were first
shared two days early with Jeffrey Goldberg.
I don't know anything about it.
We have to have Greenland.
This is Liberation Day.
The United States will implement reciprocal tariffs.
We've been meeting with China.
We're putting a lot of pressure on Russia.
You have to have Ukraine want to make
a deal too.
America is back.

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You know why they didn't do this for
Biden?
Because all they would have for the montage
is, Dignity.
Do you remember back in 1984 when Ronald
Reagan became president?
He became president in 1980.
He was reelected in 84.

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Yeah, right.
Do you remember the Morning in America campaign?
Vaguely.
It's morning again in America.
Today, more men and women will go to
work than ever before in our country's history.
With interest rates at about half the record
highs of 1980, nearly 2,000 families today

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will buy new homes.
More than at any time in the past
four years.
This afternoon, 6,500 young men and women
will be married.
And with inflation of less than half of
what it was just four years ago, they
can look forward with confidence to the future.

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It's morning again in America.
And under the leadership of President Reagan, our
country is prouder and stronger and better.
Why would we ever want to return to
where we were less than four short years
ago?
It's morning in America.

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It's one of the most famous ads of
its time.
And we have a modern day version.
It's a new day.
The sun is rising.
The birds are singing.
And things are returning to normal.
It's norming in America.

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Today, we're actually arresting shoplifters.
And fewer businesses are being burned down.
All over America, pronouns are being dropped from
bios.
Men are not having babies.
And fewer drag queens are flashing their genitals
at children.
Videos like this one aren't being shadow banned

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as much.
People are saying master bedroom.
And look at that.
White people are reappearing in commercials.
Oh, and guys, we can say guys again.
America, the fever has broken.
Now we can be sensible, nicer, and normal.

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Join us.
And let's never go back to those weird,
angry, divisive times again.
That's right, baby.
Have a great norming, you hear?
Same PR team.
Clearly.

(15:57):
It's very funny.
I like that.
I thought that was good.
That brings me immediately to a nutball clip.
Okay, are you on the mic, man?
Are you talking?
Are you spitting in that?
Yeah, I hope so.
I'm gonna jack you up some more.
Jack me up.
The opening show things right themselves.
Okay, that brings you to a clip immediately,

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you said.
What kind of clip?
This is the ranting lunatic chick.
Wait a minute, you're going straight to TikTok?
Can we do this this early in the
show?
Can we handle it?
Maybe not, but this is definitely, it will
set the tone.
You know what?
Okay, I know I'm insane, and I know
I'm the internet's favorite crash out.

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What I'm gonna say right now- Wait,
clash out?
Clash out.
Clash out.
I like that.
Crash out, crash, crash.
She said crash out?
I thought she said clash out.
I think she said crash out.
You know what?
Okay, I know I'm insane, and I know
I'm the internet's favorite crash out.
What I'm gonna say right now is I'm
not paying my debt anymore.
What we're doing from this point forward is
a debt strike 2025.

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If I have to do it alone and
be insane, I will.
I literally will.
The fact that we would continue paying our
debt, we can't stop paying our rent, because
that's too crazy.
It'll put a lot of people in harm.
I'm sick of protesting.
It does nothing.
I don't want to go to war, because
look how skinny my arms are.
We have to do something.
I'm not paying my debt.
You can join me on this, or you
cannot.

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I'm going to take a picture, and I'm
going to keep records of the debt that
I have right now, because when the interest
rates go up on that, I'm not paying
those either, even when they start to meet
our demands.
And the demands are as such.
Abolish ICE, okay?
I want those men home from El Salvador.
I don't care.
And we need to protect Medicaid.

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The Department of Education needs to be restored.
I want critical race theory in the classroom,
period.
We need to literally be delusional.
I'm going to be delusional right now.
I will stand here right now, be delusional,
make fun of me all you want.
This is what we need to do.
This is what we need to do.
And if they don't meet our demands, then
what we're going to do is then we're

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going to stop paying our rent.
But for right now, stop paying your bills.
Stop paying your debt.
We're going to start there.
And it's like, what the fuck do I
have to owe my credit score for the
house that I'll never buy?
I already am not allowed to rent because
I don't make enough money.
I have to have a cosigner anyway.
So what does my credit score even fucking
matter?
What does it matter, bro?

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Literally, I want Doge out of office.
We're done with him.
We're done with him.
And free healthcare for all people.
I'm so dead serious.
Guys, we're done with this.
I love that she called herself delusional.
That is some...
That's a bipolar episode.
No, no.
That's engagement farming on TikTok.

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I don't think...
I think you have to see her.
She's pretty serious.
No, this is...
It's all an act.
It's all an act.
She's a pretty good actress then.
She's pretty funny.
She got on the No Agenda show.
I'll give her that.
Yeah, she did.
But this is part of...
There's also another movement going on besides not
paying your bills.
These...
None of this is going to work, of

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course, because it's a very small minority.
Yes, it's norming in America.
But there's a bunch of people calling for
the illegal, which is a general strike.
And they're calling for a general strike.
And I think it was for May Day
of next year, maybe.
Oh, they're getting ahead of the game.
They're front running the strike.
But I'm noticing it's starting to show up

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more and more about, let's do a general
strike.
That's going to do it.
Well, today is, of course, a dual celebration.
Today is May Day.
And what is May Day?
May Day is workers...
It's the workers' day.
It's...
This is the day of...
Commies.
...of the working man.
What?
It's a communist holiday.

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Yeah, communist holiday.
Yeah.
Would you be surprised to hear that this
falls on the exact same day as the
National Day of Prayer?
Well, I know it is the National Day
of Prayer because Trump was on the air.
Of course.
And he just could not stop talking.
It's called counter-programming, man.
It's like, we're not going to pay any
attention to the commies.

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It's National Day of Prayer.
That is good.
It's counter-programming.
It's a good job.
World's workers' day.
Workers unite.
Pray, pray.
Anyway, it is 100 days.
It's also a show day.
It is a show day.
Of course, it's a double...
It's a triple threat.
It is workers' day.
It is National Day of Prayer and a
show day.

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What more can you do?
But we are celebrating 100 days.
And President Trump chose ABC to do his
100-day...
His 100-day...
The 100-day excoriation of the media.
Yes.
And most of this was about Kilmar Abrego
-Garcia.
Let me ask you about one man and
one court order.

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Kilmar Abrego-Garcia.
He's the Salvadoran man who crossed into this
country illegally, but who is under a protective
order.
I think to get into the White House
Correspondents' Dinner, you had to pronounce Kilmar Abrego
-Garcia properly.
Otherwise, you weren't allowed in.
That he not be sent back to El
Salvador.
Your government sent him back to El Salvador
and acknowledged in court that was a mistake.

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And now the Supreme Court has upheld an
order that you must return him to facilitate
his return to the United States.
What are you doing to comply?
Well, the lawyer that said it was a
mistake was here a long time, was not
appointed by us, should not have said that,
should not have said that, and just so
you understand, the person that you're talking about,
you know, you're making this person sound, this

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is a MS-13 gang member, a tough
cookie, been in lots of skirmishes, beat the
hell out of his wife, and the wife
was petrified to even talk about him, okay?
This is not an innocent, wonderful gentleman from
Maryland.
I'm not saying he's a good guy.
It's about the rule of law.
The order from the Supreme Court sends him
into our country illegally.

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You could get him back.
There's a phone on this desk.
I could.
You could pick it up, and with all
the power of the presidency, you could call
up the president of El Salvador and say,
send him back.
Nope, not good.
And if he were the gentleman that you
say he is, I would do that.
But the court has ordered you to facilitate
his release.
I'm not the one making this decision.
We have lawyers that don't want to do
this.
But the buck stops in this office.

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No, no, no, no, no, no.
I follow the law.
You want me to follow the law?
If I were the president that just wanted
to do anything, I'd probably keep him right
where he is.
The Supreme Court says what the law is.
Yeah, this was so good because the president
really thought that he was going to get
a pass somehow.
But this, I chose you.
I chose you, ABC.
I chose you, Terry Moran.
Listen, I was elected to take care of

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a problem that was, it was a unforced
error that was made by a very incompetent
man.
A man that turned out to be incompetent
that you always said was wonderful, great genius,
right?
And now you find out, all of the
media now, they're saying what a mistake they
made.
A man who was grossly incompetent allowed us
to have open borders where millions of people

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float in.
I campaigned on that issue.
I wouldn't say it was my number one
issue, but it was pretty close.
I campaigned on that issue.
I've done an amazing job.
I have closed borders.
He said you couldn't do it and you
wouldn't be able to do it.
It would never happen.
Well, it happened.
And it happened very quickly.
Wait a minute.
When we have criminals, murderers, criminals in this

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country, we have to get them out.
And we're doing it.
And here comes the bone of the contention,
the tattoo.
You'll pick out one man, but even the
man that you picked out, he said he
wasn't a member of a gang.
And then they looked and on his knuckles,
he had MS-13.
There's a dispute with that.
Wait a minute.
He had MS-13 on his knuckles tattoo.

(23:40):
He had some tattoos that are interpreted that
way.
But let's move on.
Wait a minute.
Hey, Terry, Terry, Terry.
He did not have the letter MS-13.
It says MS-13.
That was Photoshopped.
Photoshopped?
That was Photoshopped.
Terry, you can't do that.
Hey, they're giving you the big break of
a lifetime.
You know, you're doing the interview.
I picked you because, frankly, I never heard
of you, but that's OK.

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I picked you, Terry, but you're not being
very nice.
He had MS-13 tattooed.
We'll agree to disagree.
I want to move on to something else.
Agree to disagree.
Do you want me to show you the
picture?
By the way, by the way, that is
the lowest of the low outs.
I agree to disagree.
I know I hear it on podcasts all
the time.
You and I, we just fight.

(24:22):
We never agree to disagree.
It's like, you're wrong.
I don't think we've ever done.
Not that you may.
I never thought about this, but in 17
years, I don't think we've ever used that
phrase on each other.
We've never gone to bed angry at each
other either.
Well, well, who cares?
Terry, but you're not being very nice.
He had MS-13 tattooed.

(24:43):
We'll agree to disagree.
I want to move on to something else.
Terry, do you want me to show you
the picture?
I saw the picture.
And you think it was photoshopped?
Well, here we go.
Don't photoshop it.
Don't look at his hand.
He did have tattoos that can be interpreted
that way.
I'm not an expert on them.
I want to turn to Ukraine.
I want to get to Ukraine.
No, no, no, no, no.
He had MS as clear as you can

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be.
Not interpreted.
It's photoshopped!
This is why people no longer believe the
news because he's fake news.
In El Salvador, they aren't there.
But let's just go.
They aren't there when he's in El Salvador.
Oh, they weren't there, but they're there now,
right?
No, but they're in your picture.
Terry.
Ukraine, sir.
He's got MS-13 on his knuckles.
All right.

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OK?
Well, we'll take a look at that.
It's such a disservice.
We'll take a look at that, sir.
Why don't you just say yes, he does.
You know, go on to something else.
It's contested.
So this is a contentious issue because many
people have emailed me this saying, Trump, he's
not doing his homework.
He should just take the L.
It was photoshopped.
Now, there's two pictures.

(25:46):
There's one.
One of them's got some, you'd call it
photoshopped, explaining what the symbols mean.
MS-13.
That's what the photoshopped part is.
No, no.
It is MS-13 on his knuckles.
But the second photo taken in Ukraine, you
don't see that.
In fact, what you do see is his
knuckles are all smudged.

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That's the photoshop.
No, the MS-13, there's no M on
his knuckles.
No, no.
They showed a picture of MS-13 on
his knuckles.
They showed that picture.
That's the photoshopped version.
I wonder if that's photoshopped.
Yeah, it is.
It's obviously, if you look at it carefully,
it's just the letters are too clear because

(26:26):
the symbols mean MS-13.
That was the idea.
But I'm just saying the pictures they showed
in this piece showed what you call a
photoshop, but I would say the other picture,
where his knuckles are completely smudged, that's a
photoshop.
I think that's photoshop too.
They could both be photoshopped.
Yes, the symbols stand for MS-13.

(26:47):
Yeah, that's all there is to it.
And he beat up his wife.
Since when are we doing this?
Since when are we doing that?
Apparently, there's another report that came out this
morning where he also did something.
He also beat his wife into...
There's some other beating that took place.
It's more part of this whole thing.
More beatings.
Ah, yes, you are listening to the No
Agenda Show.
Still ahead.
I'm asking the justification for going after people

(27:10):
you don't like.
We'll be back with more of Trump's 100
days.
Or not.
So that was big from the M5M this
week.
100 days.
What's happened?
Well, I don't have any 100-day stuff.
I have what the Democrats did, which I

(27:31):
thought was the best part of the week.
Oh, this is with Hogg?
The Hogg Kid?
Oh, no, the Hogg Kid's not that interesting.
The thing I thought that was interesting was
the sit-in.
Yeah, that started on Sunday.
We saw the sit-in start live on
the show.
Yeah, we saw it start, but here's the
report.
Which, holy mackerel, I didn't clip this correctly.

(27:52):
I can tell by looking at it.
Do you have the name of it?
Yeah, Congress Sit-In.
Okay.
Oh, it's okay.
I'll...
We'll roll with it.
We'll figure out what's going on.
Let's see what we have.
Congress returns from its spring break today, but
two lawmakers returned to the Capitol a day
earlier in protest of the Republican budget plan.

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You're looking at House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries
and Senator Cory Booker, who held a sit
-in that lasted more than 12 hours.
This is one of those moments where we
have to step up more as leaders in
Congress.
We are in a moral moment, and what
we need now is not just four Congress
people and four senators, but to get there,

(28:35):
we need more people that are willing to
stand in this moral storm.
In this moment.
CBS News Congressional Correspondent Nicole Killian joins us
now from Capitol Hill with more on this.
Good morning to you, Nicole.
Senator Booker there kind of ended that speech
and everyone standed up.
There was kind of like a rorous applause
around him.
It did.
I didn't hear any rorous applause on the

(28:57):
clip.
There was some applause, but stand...
The guys, he said they standed up.
Well, he's British.
These guys are British.
You bring a British guy in so they
can do proper English?
Yes, they standed up.
I've been standed up all the time.
Why do this?
Why conduct a sit-in protest on the
weekend?
And from what you can tell, did it
resonate?

(29:17):
Well, I think a couple of things, you
know.
Interestingly, I did ask Senator Booker after he
had that record-breaking speech on the Senate
floor earlier this month, if this was a
sign of things to come from Democrats, because
of course some have been under fire for
not doing enough to combat the Trump agenda.
He did acknowledge the need on the part
of Democrats to do more.

(29:39):
Obviously, this all happened on the House side
of the steps, which involved minority leader...
Okay, you can stop the clip.
It goes on.
This woman is one of those women, I
don't know if you ever worked with any
of them, they're in broadcasting.
They can talk forever.
Oh, it's...
Gag, gag, gag, gag, gag, gag, gag.
And they have to be interrupted.
They leave very few openings.

(30:00):
When I tried to clip her, I tried
to cut something because she she ran like
she would use and she's like stood and
she would there was no way of writing
you know what I mean.
An unclipable wench, I tell you.
Yes, she's no good.
An unclipable wench who can't stop talking.

(30:21):
I want to play a little bit of
this Hogg thing though because I just thought
it was interesting to show what disarray the
Democrat Party is in.
DNC vice-chair David Hogg was on the
lead last week talking about his plan to
raise 20 million dollars to unseat Democrats and
save seats in primaries.
By the way the woman you're gonna hear
talking her name is Megan what is it

(30:45):
do I have it here Megan Hayes she
was an advisor to Biden and she has
a most interesting speech impediment.
Now the DNC chairman Ken Martin weighed in
and here's what he had to say.
No DNC officer should ever attempt to influence
the outcome of a primary election whether on
behalf of an incumbent or a challenger.
While you know certainly you know I understand

(31:08):
what he's trying to do as I've said
to him if you want to challenge incumbents
you're more than free to do that but
just not as an officer of the DNC.
From Minnesota if you can't tell.
So Hogg's argument is just because he's not
here to defend himself there's a lot of
dead weight in this party and we're talking
about safe Democratic seats so whoever wins is

(31:29):
gonna end up winning anyway and you know
we need to rise to meet the moment
that's what he would say.
Great you don't do that as a member
of the DNC you're an elected person on
the DNC leave the party and go do
that.
The DNC is not an idea that is
a Democratic Party the DNC is an institution
with a job to do people vote in
primaries not the DNC.
Are you sympathetic to his arguments at all?

(31:49):
No then don't be part of the DNC.
Well what about the idea that there should
be.
Absolutely there should be primaries people should be
primary if that is that is how our
democracy works but if you want to help
the primary challengers then leave the DNC that
is not your role as the DNC.
How interesting now that I listen to her
you can't hear it but when you see
her her mouth goes all weird when she

(32:10):
talks.
That was disappointing.
That's interesting Kelly Evans on CNBC has a
has a funny mouth thing.
The worst-case example of this was a
is a preacher called Robert Tilton out of
Texas.
Not familiar.
And he used to be a televangelist he's
on TV all the time but I don't
think I haven't seen him for years but

(32:31):
he did a thing with his mouth that
you'd watch him it was like it would
be kind of mesmerizing because his mouth wasn't
going in the same direction.
It was very odd.
Then they brought on this just short Ro
Khanna Ro Khanna which is just fun to
say Ro Khanna.
Joining us now to discuss Democratic Congressman Ro
Khanna of California.

(32:52):
Congressman always great to have you on the
show.
Thank you very much for being here.
You are one who has actually publicly supported
the effort from David Hogg.
You wrote on the platform X that you
think that Hogg is doing incredible work supporting
frontline Democrats while giving new candidates a chance
to run in safe seats and you say

(33:12):
Democrats should embrace a new generation of leadership
and competition.
Why is this such a lonely place for
you to be?
Oh you rebel.
Well look I think primaries are healthy competition
is healthy.
I won my seat in a Democratic primary
many of our members of Congress have won
in primaries and we need a new generation

(33:34):
of leadership.
Now I'm trying to reach a compromise with
the DNC and David Hogg and what I've
said to David is he can have his
organization that is having primary challenges but he
himself should not endorse in his personal capacity
while he's while he's vice chair and that
seems to me something that can bring everyone

(33:56):
together.
This was such a mistake to bring this
jamoke in.
I have no idea how that happened.
He must have come with money.
Who?
Hogg.
No.
This was just purely craziness from the Democrat
Party?
I don't know that it was a bad
thing.
He comes in, Carville's the one who's really

(34:19):
jumping all over there's a good back-and
-forth with him and Carville and and and
Hogg Carville accused of me saying you you
know what the position you're in you're not
supposed to be supporting anybody and he's not
I don't I haven't heard anything he just
wants he just is theoretical he says he
should we should bring in new people and
have them run in the primaries.
He hasn't named names so I don't know

(34:40):
what Ro Khan is talking about or Carville
for that matter then Carville called him out
for getting paid and and it turns out
that that vice chair that he is is
a voluntary job he doesn't get paid anything
he says.
I'm thinking this is why I think I
have no you know without evidence that there's

(35:00):
money behind him this whole this kid's...
Well it's not his father.
No we know that.
So the other big story this was big
because I know what well maybe Soros money
it's possible that's such an old trope at
this point yeah I agree and Soros wouldn't
be trying to put new people in.
The Soros gambit is over it's got to

(35:22):
be new people it's got to be new
money Soros is dead you know what's Alex
is gallivanting around with Alex is no good
he's not he's not he's not the powerhouse
or no he's the old man was so
the other big story because I know people
in the region was the big blackout and
I have two boots on the ground which
will help dispel all of the rumors innuendo

(35:44):
and bullcrap.
The power is back on in Spain and
Portugal after one of Europe's biggest ever blackouts
but there are still no answers as to
what actually caused it or how they could
prevent it from happening again.
Our Iberian co-bureau chief Aislinn is looking
at this story Aislinn what do we actually

(36:06):
know?
It's extremely unclear still what caused the blackout
and there is something of a political blame
game initiating we are also seeing an intense
discussion about the merits of different power sources
Spain is and Portugal are big renewables producers
French ministers were saying yesterday well you know

(36:28):
if they used more nuclear power perhaps that
wouldn't have happened the Spanish Prime Minister has
firmly rejected that saying actually even nuclear power
couldn't help us get this restarted we were
relying on a lot of hydro the Spanish
power grid operator has said that this is
absolutely not a cyber attack from their point
of view they say there was a massive

(36:49):
drop-off in power supply what caused that
is becoming a key area of investigation it
is unclear and the Spanish Prime Minister Pedro
Sanchez is not ruling out a cyber attack
it's clear that it's very unclear and everyone's
dancing around and we have some answers but
first boots on the ground from Marbella Spain

(37:10):
where our producer is located Marbella is the
hoity-toity place of Spain to be if
you're near the harbor we've been told the
blackout here is weather or net zero based
after public radio telling us it was a
cyber attack while it was going on interestingly
the communications blackout here in Marbella was much
longer than the power outage we did not

(37:30):
have Wi-Fi or cell service for 18
hours while the power was only out for
seven hours and of course EU rules around
no gas stoves or barbecues on balconies meant
we had to borrow a neighbor's barbecue to
heat water and milk for the kids because
of course you have to have electric stoves
this is one of our producers can't wait

(37:51):
to get out of the EU so we
continue with this Reuters report and in the
absence of concrete answers what are the authorities
doing to make sure there isn't a repeat
of this well that is the big question
is whether it can happen again we've heard
energy analysts saying that this could indeed happen
again this was you know one of the
possibly the only big power cut in the

(38:13):
era of green electricity certainly the largest that
anyone can remember there has been an ongoing
debate about you know the viability of European
grids whether they are having sufficient amounts of
investment in them particularly now that we are
seeing these new sources of power come online
some analysts suggesting that you know you're trying

(38:36):
to operate a Ferrari on a country road
sometimes that will result in its own challenges
to the system whether that was the case
here whether there was a third parties involvement
it still very much remains to be seen
so now they're peddling the line well you're
trying to operate a Ferrari on a country
road mean or the grid is just not

(38:57):
ready for our sophisticated renewables so I contacted
our dude that's a good bit it's a
great bit our dude named Ben named Ben
who is the protector of megawatts if you
recall this is his job he know and
particularly cybersecurity zero cyber attack he said the
problem is Spain the reason why you're not
hearing the truth is that Spain has been

(39:19):
bragging about running on 100% renewables yeah
there's some clips that are of it I
mean there's a lot of visual news clips
that like to point this out and they
form memes so the truth of it is
at the time of the outage 77%
of generation was inverter based I love this

(39:41):
term I understand that immediately inverter based means
solar or winds because they generate direct current
and the inverter changes it into alternating current
yeah so I can go down to wires
and because this altered this these renewables do
not provide stable power they fluctuate due to

(40:05):
I don't know wind changes and clouds I
can't watch the TV they they have a
baseload their baseload is 15 gigawatts of generation
from France so according to the dude named
Ben named Ben protector of megawatts a substation

(40:26):
in France suddenly stopped transmitting electricity now they
they're not exactly sure why but they believe
that it was because of a fire at
the substation so the Iberian Peninsula Spain and
subsequently Portugal suddenly lost 15 gigawatts of 15
megawatts of 15 gigawatts 15,000 megawatts of

(40:49):
generation from the French that they were on
a reliant on because they were way over
subscribed on these renewables 15,000 megawatts is
a lot of generation to lose all at
once for instance in Texas we don't get
into an emergency situation until we go down
to 3,000 megawatts of spinning reserve even

(41:10):
on our best day for generation it would
be very difficult for our grid to survive
that bottom line emergency levels would be catastrophic
in Texas at 3,000 we have about
40,000 40 million people here they lost
15,000 so the whole the whole reason
you're not hearing the truth is because of

(41:30):
the bragging that they were over 100%
renewable and they're not they were really reliant
on this probably nuclear generated power from France
that dropped out everything went to crap and
this is the risk of this this insane
policy of relying on 100% renewables getting

(41:53):
to net zero it is insane and and
no one's gonna want to admit this so
I mean we've heard things such as oh
it was atmospheric fluctuation a rare atmospheric event
is so bogus USA Today even had this
preliminary reports out of Europe at the massive
blackout the cause may be something called induced
atmospheric vibration phenomenon where weather changes affect power

(42:21):
lines this is a lie and this is
just the beginning of this nonsense the more
they rely on renewables and in this case
external interconnect from another country which is a
huge security risk for your country we're relying
upon France if France drops the base load
for us boom we're done so this it

(42:45):
doesn't work it's not a good idea nuclear
is is not inverter base it's AC it's
renewable that's what they should be going to
but no instead it's all of this solar
and wind and they're going to keep lying
and I'm sure they'll have a task force
and nothing will ever come of it it
brings me to my two climate clips boom

(43:06):
shakalaka I don't know if I have anything
on that particular situation which I thought I
know I heard a lot of stuff and
very familiar with the phony baloney crazy comment
about the weather causing the whole thing climate
by his the climate hysteria debate is there

(43:28):
hysteria in the international climate debate Britain's former
Prime Minister Tony Blair suggests there is as
he calls for a new approach it comes
after Spain and Portugal were recently hit by
cascading blackouts which some say were made worse
by an over reliance on solar power entities
international correspondent Malcolm Hudson has more for us
from London in a new policy paper former

(43:51):
British Prime Minister Tony Blair said hysteria should
be taken out of the international climate debates
saying that voters feel they are being made
to make financial sacrifices and changes their lifestyle
in what Blair referred to as doomed policy
despite the fact that in developed nations these
changes will lead to a minimal impact to
global carbon emissions Blair said that by 2030

(44:14):
almost two-thirds of global emissions will come
from China India and Southeast Asia and said
that means any strategy based on phasing out
fossil fuels in the short term is doomed
to fail but while he appeared to hit
out against net zero carbon emission policies Blair
went on to clarify that Prime Minister Keir
Starmer's approach to net zero is the right

(44:35):
one supporting the government's plan for net zero
by 2050 Deputy Prime Minister Angela Rayner responded
Tony's clarified his comments and he welcomes our
direction of travel and that's on renewables investing
in renewables and nuclear as part of the
mix but we can't rely on fossil fuels
forever the British government rejected Blair's claim of

(44:56):
hysteria in the climate debate debate yes okay
yeah this is interesting how these things are
starting to fall apart it's what is the
what is the inverse of operating a Ferrari
on a country road is it a lot
that no no one knows what a lot

(45:17):
that what is what is an Edsel operating
an Edsel no no no a pedal bike
on a pedal bike on the Autobahn no
pedal bike on the Autobahn pedal bike on
the Autobahn there you go that's what it
is pedal bike I like it a pedal
bike on the Autobahn nice okay it's part
two now Republicans passed all of these changes

(45:39):
out of committee yesterday and the goal is
to make them part of that broader reconciliation
bill that big budget bill that we've heard
so much about with the goal to pass
all of this by the summer what reporting
what is she saying what is this I
don't is this another miss clip yeah to
play what I think I think you meant
to start it here hold on a second
I see what's going on but Ben Pyle

(46:01):
co-founder of climate debate UK says there
is a lot of hysteria driving climate policy
and this sort of tendency of a lot
of people within the global green movement to
sort of talk about deadlines you know 10
years left to save the planet and so
on and so forth many people have made
the 10 years claim over the decades including
former US vice-president Al Gore in 2006

(46:23):
Blair said that most political leaders know that
the debate has become irrational but are terrified
of saying so for fear of being called
climate deniers a British government spokesperson said that
they remain focused on their mission for the
UK to be a clean energy superpower while
treading lightly on people's lives Pyle disputed this

(46:43):
and said it will be expensive over the
next five years the clean power by 2030
agenda is going to lock Britain into extremely
expensive renewable energy subsidy schemes over reliance on
renewable energy has drawn criticism in recent days
following the huge blackouts throughout Spain and Portugal

(47:05):
energy expert Catherine Porter said the initial fault
in Spain's power grid was made worse by
an over reliance on solar power which led
to cascading blackouts that lasted for over eight
hours in the Iberian Peninsula so this is
actually this folds right into a classic clip
I have when he was still the the

(47:29):
chief of the the Bank of England the
Central Bank of the United Kingdom the new
Prime Minister of Canada listened to what he
was saying then and what he probably still
thinks today the world's coming to Glasgow let's
reshape finance for sustainable you demanded action and

(47:49):
now it's time for the financial sector to
deliver to reach net zero every country every
company every bank every investor every pension fund
around the world will need to make some
big changes in the run-up to COP
26 in Glasgow we have an enormous opportunity
to bring climate change into the heart of
every financial decision and our plan will manage

(48:11):
the risk from climate change while helping to
seize the opportunities from a newer greener economy
the UK has been at the forefront of
innovation for centuries brimming with ingenuity and a
can do spirit it also houses the world's
largest financial system and by bringing them together
we can deliver the net zero world that

(48:32):
you've demanded and that our future generations deserve
you demanded it you demanded it you want
the nobody demanded it no you demanded it
you wanted the net zero world that's what's
gonna happen to Canada Canada you're next how
are your renewables doing it's gonna be great
it's gonna be great might as well get

(48:53):
into this after a long night and not
much sleep Prime Minister Mark Carney arrived at
his office this morning getting down to work
after laying out his vision to supporters last
night in Ottawa as we come here after
this consequential most consequential election let's put an
end let's put an end to the division
and anger of the past Carney says he'll

(49:16):
work with all parties and as the final
votes are counted it's clear he'll have to
the Liberals have come up just shy of
a majority they'll need to rely on the
handful of new Democrats who survived their party's
implosion the bloc québécois or even the Conservatives
to enact their agenda the latest count shows
Carney's Liberals and Pierre Poliev's Conservatives taking roughly

(49:37):
85% of all votes cast with a
less than 3% margin between them the
Conservatives say they're willing to work with the
Liberals on the biggest issue facing the country
its relationship with the US with Carney today
making another move on that file the Prime
Minister's office says Carney spoke with US President

(49:57):
Donald Trump that Trump congratulated Carney on his
win and that the two leaders agreed on
the importance of Canada and the US working
together as independent sovereign nations and agreed to
meet in person in the near future and
I think I think it was you who
said you know Trump wanted this to happen
he wanted Carney he implied that he did

(50:19):
here's here's some proof highlighting his phone call
yesterday with freshly elected Prime Minister Mark Carney
and hinting that on trade issues Trump seems
to see positive progress coming deal-making now
set to at least begin suggested Trump's pretty

(50:40):
almost immediately he's a very nice gentleman and
we he's going to come to the White
House very shortly within the next week or
less Trump even weighed in on the election
itself when a reporter pointed out Carney won
in no small way by targeting Trump and
his trade policies here's Trump on that and

(51:01):
on opposition leader Pierre Poliev they both hated
Trump and it was the one that hated
Trump I think the least that one I
actually think the conservative hated me much more
than the than the so-called liberal he's
pretty liberal guy but no I spoke to
him yesterday couldn't have been nicer and I
congratulated him separately Trump noted not long ago

(51:22):
that he's if if President Trump is saying
you're a great guy you're a nice guy
this is the time you start watching your
back something's coming for you and I congratulated
him separately Trump noted not long ago that
he's already made some 200 trade deals since
he imposed his tariffs earlier this year though
none has been officially announced or made public

(51:42):
today while slamming another country he's hit hard
with tariffs China the leading candidate for the
chief ripper offer Trump also suggested again maybe
something's in the works there as well I
hope we're gonna make a deal with China
we're talking to China where any of it

(52:03):
goes from here is as ever known only
to Trump though for Canada a better sense
of things may well come soon with as
Trump now expects that sit down in the
Oval Office with he and Mark Carney very
shortly then according to NPR Trump really did
get him elected Mark Carney has been elected
as Prime Minister of Canada according to the

(52:23):
projections from the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation this was
seen as a referendum on which candidate could
best handle the United States under President Trump
who placed tariffs on Canada and sparked a
wave of Canadian nationalism Carney defeated Conservative Party
leader Pierre Palliative Palliative's momentum began to slip

(52:43):
when former Prime Minister Justin Trudeau resigned earlier
this year which gave the Liberals a lift
but the real boost came when President Trump
began targeting Canada's economy and its sovereignty many
Canadians were outraged by Trump's threat to make
Canada the 51st state it all becomes clear
yeah I thought that I think Palliative was

(53:04):
too much like Trump and he would have
probably butted heads with him he didn't like
him I have a very strange clip mm
-hmm that explains Trump's behavior in general mm
-hmm and this is the woman Corcoran I
think her name she is on the shark
tank she's the female girl there and she
female girl and she she's the one as

(53:26):
opposed to the male girl you can't be
too sure you got it you got to
be very clear the female girl yes the
female girl she she had an observation that
I think is something we should always keep
in the back of our minds about Trump
and after I heard this I also thought
that oh this is what would happen with
Bill Maher to listen to this sorry Donald

(53:48):
Trump getting the heck of a compliment from
one of the key stars of Shark Tank
Barbara Corcoran so I did a lot of
work with Donald and I can tell you
he is the best salesman I've ever met
my she's the blonde who does a lot
of fast-moving consumer she just smaller deals
but successful deals she's the QVC lady that's
what she is QVC girl yeah I I
watched him walk into a situation I for

(54:10):
example selling the Plaza Hotel to the Chinese
out of Hong Kong it was in Taiwan
group of Asians wealthiest families in Hong Kong
and they were there because they were interested
in the Plaza Hotel and I was a
broker or my brokers were all at the
table we're like really hungry to make this
deal and I watched him totally not pitch

(54:31):
the Plaza Hotel bury it and talk about
the landmasses on the Hudson River and the
buildings that would be there they were not
the least bit interested they just wanted to
buy the Plaza Hotel like a customer I
want to buy it and Donald was near
bankruptcy really needed the money to bail out
and I watched him I thought he was
so off he wasn't they bought the land

(54:53):
and built all those towers on the West
River as we know it today you know
all those Trump towers along the river that
was the deal how did he do that
I'll tell you what his masterful mind does
he is a genius at picking out the
vulnerability of someone's personality he can smell it
sense it and trust it okay so for

(55:16):
example if you were to walk into a
business meeting with Donald and you're saying whatever
you're saying I've seen it time and time
again he could see what your weakness is
and not physically reach over and put his
finger on it but he just could see
what your weakness is and play into it
not the nicest thing in the world but
it's a certain gift I've never seen anyone

(55:36):
else and it comes in handy in light
of what we're doing right now with China
yeah no she's the older lady not the
young and the young the young blonde is
the QVC yeah yeah I saw this clip
and I thought that makes total sense and
that's what he's been doing with everything and
I think I think this may have in
some degree you know since we're talking about

(55:57):
rare earths and about the processing so I've
been receiving nothing but tons of information about
rare earth processing Saskatchewan has had a rare
earth processing facility since 2020 so they do
a lot of this more I mean I

(56:17):
have a ton of different places where this
is happening but this kind of folds into
the new deal the last time Ukraine was
about to sign a minerals deal with the
u.s. it was derailed by a row
in the Oval Office around on relations are
slightly warmer and just before we recorded this
podcast they finally reached an agreement the deal

(56:40):
creates an investment fund for the reconstruction of
Ukraine in exchange for access to the country's
minerals oil and gas it will still need
to be approved by Parliament in Ukraine but
the Ukrainian MP Maria met sensei were welcomed
what she said were the improved terms of
the agreement it's quite a good investment opportunity
and a fair deal in the end where

(57:02):
no sort of deaths on military aid are
mentioned everything is done in a manner due
to Ukrainian Constitution and doesn't breach any oversight
of our EU aspirations so I thought CBS
actually had a that was BBC CBS had
a better report because this is exactly the

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kind of deal that President Trump was talking
about give us your minerals we'll protect you
we'll protect our our own assets and maybe
we'll put together a little fund for you
a little hedge fund turn now to news
that has big implications for the war in
Ukraine the u.s. and Ukraine have signed
a long-awaited deal giving the u.s.
access to important rare-earth minerals Ukraine hopes

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in return to get greater protection from Russian
aggression Ramey innocentia has more on all this
Ramey joins us now Ramey good morning Tony
yes good morning there and breakthrough here while
this deal does not explicitly say that the
u.s. will keep on helping Ukraine defend
against Russia's invasion like under the Biden administration
that is the hope u.s. Treasury Secretary

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Scott Besson who signed this pact with Ukraine's
deputy prime minister in Washington said that it
signals to Russia that the Trump administration is
committed to a peace process for what he
says is a free Ukraine and over the
long term details about this deal though are
slim but it centers on u.s. access
to Ukraine's vast resources under its soil that

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includes oil and gas but along with critical
raw materials that's like graphite titanium and uranium
for aerospace and technology funds from this deal
would go towards paying the u.s. for
future military aid and to establish a joint
fund for the reconstruction of Ukraine and you
know there has been a lot of drama
around this deal we all sides were closed

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back in February when Zelensky went to Washington
to sign an earlier version but then we
saw that spectacular meltdown broadcast around the world
then last week Trump and Zelensky met at
St. Peter's Basilica look at that a decidedly
more peaceful there for the funeral of the
Pope and now we have this breakthrough but
importantly Russia has not commented yet so let's

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talk about the Ukrainian rare earths well let's
play the NTD clip of this so we
can get that out of the way okay
Ukraine yep gotcha a Ukrainian official is in
Washington today the US and Ukraine just signed
a deal on rare earth minerals here's more
Ukraine's first deputy prime minister Yulia Sviridenko is

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traveling to the United States on Wednesday to
sign a minerals deal the two sides were
reportedly set to close the deal on Wednesday
afternoon until Ukraine requested some last-minute changes
President Trump wants to use Ukraine's minerals as
a financial guarantee for the aid the US
has been sending to Ukraine I didn't want

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to make a complicated deal I didn't want
to make a deal that couldn't be made
because Ukraine doesn't have very much money and
yet they're going through a very bad period
of time it's been brutal but Ukraine's prime
minister says the agreement won't include the money
the US has sent so far only future
aid so I think this is still about

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weapon sales to the EU they'll be buying
it I believe because this these rare earths
in in Ukraine according to Reuters they don't
really have an operational mine they don't really
have rare earths exactly they have no mining
roads no rail no energy grids no processing

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capacity that's your big big thing of course
it's all a chaos and you know they
geological data is hardly available that it seems
like a bit of a mirage that but
the rare earths business that Rubio was doing
in Rwanda boots on the ground Adam I
worked in the mining industry for eight years

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lived in Africa for 15 mostly in DRC
and Kenya the answer to the question is
Africa has to make peace between a DRC
and its neighbors Rwanda is already doing unofficial
processing of rare earth minerals from the DRC
so there is processing and even crazier they're

(01:01:21):
gonna be processing right up in California at
Mountain Pass America led this industry for decades
with this site right here at Mountain Pass
but due to cost of capital subsidies overseas
in China as well as different environmental standards
we lost our leadership and this site fell
into essentially disrepair and bankruptcy MP materials has
humble beginnings we acquired this site in 2017

(01:01:44):
it had eight employees it was in care
maintenance nobody believed that we could compete against
China but we focused on execution and we
slowly methodically over time rebuilt this we have
nearly 300 Americans probably working on this site
when we acquired this site we clearly realized
that multi-billion dollar supply chains don't move

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overnight we had to have a long-term
plan to restore this site successfully and sustainably
our first stage which is largely complete was
to relaunch the operations here we now produce
a rare earth concentrate product that represents 15
% of the global supply we are profitable
doing so our next stage which is underway

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is to make separated rare earth products and
optimize it to be a leader in global
industry from a cost and sustainability perspective one
stage two is done we expect to generate
a significant amount of free cash flow that
will enable us to not just making separate
rare earth products but also magnets so we
can fulfill our mission of restoring the full

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rare supply chain to the United States of
America so that's in California but what's the
name of this operation I've heard this Mountain
Pass materials and there's three more from USA
rare earth who have processing plants now in
Stillwater Oklahoma Shira Blanca Texas and Wheat Ridge
Colorado we are getting into the rare earth

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business and it seems that most of them
are focused on magnets which would I don't
know if that's gonna be the future of
rare earths but that's what they most of
them seem to be doing so between Canada
these four states in America I think we're
getting back into the business we're and maybe

(01:03:32):
maybe so maybe we can chunk something out
of Ukraine if you know if it's really
even there maybe actually after their oil more
more than likely I would take that over
the rare earths any day so things are
moving and if they get the peace deal

(01:03:54):
they we can get the rare earths if
you want them from Russia Russia already off
I know we can get it easy but
we're gonna be doing processing and we have
and we're gonna make Canada you do it
Canada yeah you want to be net zero
here take this nasty stuff do it do
it do it do it while we're kind

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of on this and and climate etc oh
it's the neo diminium rare earth that is
that that's the that's the big attraction that
that's for those ridiculous magnets yeah is that
is that of any real use the magnet
I mean it's obviously yeah that's motor very
yeah that's a yeah for all kinds of

(01:04:37):
stuff yeah it's extremely powerful magnet well we
need some kind of thing where you put
two of them together you can't get them
apart your finger gets gets crushed you're done
so this is so this is a story
that's been brewing it's been very hard to
get your fingers done it's been very hard

(01:05:01):
to get a clip and this is not
the one I wanted particularly because it comes
from OG what Africa news let me see
is it from yes Africa news yeah here
goes the show but it's about chemtrails or
as we call it aerosol injection and there's
a lot of people in the UK are

(01:05:21):
very concerned about this because they're talking about
it this is just a short clip about
what it is we all know what it
is but it's even interesting that one of
the scientists in this clip describes exactly what
has been happening to our climate and I
think it is due to aerosol injection or
chemtrails the approach would walk by planes releasing

(01:05:42):
tiny particles into the atmosphere's dry stable upper
layer called the stratosphere this would help reduce
the amount of sunlight reaching the earth's surface
and helping to cool the planet so our
study examines a climate intervention technique called stratospheric
aerosol injection which is an idea to cool

(01:06:02):
down the planet by adding a layer of
small reflective particles aerosols into the high atmosphere
those particles would reflect a small amount perhaps
1% of the incoming sunlight and there
was good evidence that this could be used
to cool down the planet and perhaps to
reduce some climate impacts vulnerable people around the

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world researchers say that this could be done
using aircraft already in service today rather than
developing new ones despite the lower altitude it
would still be possible to cool the planet
by around 0.6 degrees Celsius when you
when you deploy listen to this guy listen
to what he says Celsius when you when

(01:06:47):
you deploy stratospheric aerosol injection you can change
atmospheric circulation patterns and so this can do
things like like disrupt precipitation patterns cause droughts
in some places cause excessive flooding in other
places sounds exactly what's been happening to me
but other experts have urged caution saying geoengineering

(01:07:10):
projects like this one don't offer long-term
solutions so as as kind of you know
the Alex Jones and me would say this
is exactly what they do do it for
decades and then say oh we have this
great idea and we've already been doing it
because it's in the jet fuel and Bobby
the op RFK jr.
took a question about this yesterday on the

(01:07:33):
dr.
Phil show Emily and my biggest concern is
the stratospheric aerosol injections that are continuously peppered
on us every day and bromium aluminum strontium
it's sprayed in our skies all day long
and I know you've talked to Dane Wigington
about this he seems to be one of

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the experts in the field you got a
question yes how do we stop it that
is it's not happening in my agency you
know we don't do that it's done we
think by DARPA and a lot of it
now is coming out of the jet fuel
you know those materials are put in jet

(01:08:16):
fuel we I'm gonna do everything that in
my power to stop it we're bringing on
somebody who's gonna think only about that find
out who's doing and holding them accountable oh
Bobby he's a kook he's a kook he
believes in chemtrails they're always talking about jet
fuel yes this has been the theory for

(01:08:37):
a long time yeah that's a bad theory
why well for one thing it would be
corrosive but I've tested jet fuel when I
was a chemist at Union Oil that was
none of these things in that was not
in the last 25 years well as you
know no no well chemtrails have been talked
about way longer than when I was when

(01:08:58):
I was a kid they were talking about
him well I the materials she talked about
and I've seen this happen in Los Angeles
what floated down onto my house the strontium
barium and now I there's something to this
there is some and and it's always been
suspected that it's in the jet fuel because

(01:09:19):
you see it coming and it's not like
the guys in the with the jet they
put all kinds of crap in jet fuel
you can pee in jet fuel and it'll
still work it's diesel basically kerosene kerosene you
know so no I think this is happening
and ever since President Trump got elected it's
been pretty beautiful here in in Texas blue
skies where we would have every other day

(01:09:43):
if not days in a row of chemtrails
spreading out all across the sky making it
gray no I'm I think this is for
real I think okay well you can think
what you want we can agree to disagree
oh wait until you hear what I have

(01:10:03):
to say coming up you think that's bad
you're not gonna agree with anything I say
it's okay you got anything you got any
series anything you want to want to launch
into here well let's get rid of the
tick-tock clips yeah well I was hoping
you were gonna do student loan oh the
student loans yes everybody wants student loan with
tick-tock clips okay let's go student loan

(01:10:25):
revamp part one Capitol Hill House Republicans are
working to revamp the federal student loan system
as part of their big budget bill and
efforts to cut government spending entities Melina Weisskopf
has the details Republicans are working towards ending
President Biden's attempts to forgive student loan debt
after the courts rejected Biden's plan to forgive
student loan debt he enacted a workaround through

(01:10:47):
the save program that allowed so many borrowers
to pay back zero dollars on their student
loans and not accrue interest now Republican lawmakers
are trying to overhaul that entire Biden era
student loan payback program in addition Republican lawmakers
aim to cap the amount that students can
borrow in the first place the limit is
going to be the median price of a

(01:11:07):
college university or a program of study the
Republican chairman of the Education Committee says the
goal with these new limits is to encourage
colleges to lower their costs our current broken
system encourages students to accept more and more
debt without ever addressing college costs it's no
secret that spending in Washington has been a
disaster waste fraud and abuse has left the

(01:11:31):
American taxpayer on the hook for government bloat
who was that at the end you know
I don't know but it sounds like Reagan
exactly I was like I know the same
similar voice patterns probably a milieu thing hmm
so here's part now the part two is
that I just was it's a long story

(01:11:52):
how this happened but I got these clips
kind of screwed up but the second part
is a student loan redux to and Republicans
are working to make several changes to the
Pell Grant so the goal is to try
to limit the Pell Grant only to those
who need it most and change the requirements
from 12 credit hours per semester to 30
credit hours per year now Democrats said it's

(01:12:14):
unfair for untraditional students with other obligations outside
of school such as who I have obligations
to family or for jobs here's the ranking
Democrat member on the committee speaking about it
yesterday because they may need more financial support
to cover the basic needs like housing child
care and transportation at a time when families
are struggling to make ends meet I'm confused

(01:12:36):
why we're making it harder for working parents
who are trying to further their education the
Republican chairman for his part noted that the
Pell Grant is on track to run a
shortfall of 70 to 100 billion dollars within
the decade so he's trying to avoid that
Republicans are also trying to change the Pell
Grant to include vocational programs for example schools

(01:12:57):
for cosmetology or welding training any career path
that does not require a traditional college degree
if students choose to choose to take those
paths they will qualify for a so-called
workforce Pell Grant for the first time okay
so where that's interesting and that's a good
stimulus for welders what what happens with the

(01:13:19):
student loans people now have to repay is
the question they have to repay them that's
what they have to do are they going
to are they going to have programs to
refinance they'd like the reduction programs if you
work for the police department things like that
they're gonna have the same exceptions that have
always been in there okay but they have
to pay you take the loan out the
real problem I think it was mentioned in

(01:13:40):
the first clip is that these colleges they
saw the whole thing as a scam that
owed free money this is jack our tuition
up yep and oh they get even more
free money with the higher tuition well let's
jack it up even more the amount of
to the tuition fees and not just the
private universities but the public universities are just

(01:14:01):
as high as like the Harvard I was
unbelievable what a scam this has become I've
been looking at some of these endowments like
Harvard their endowments are huge they have over
I think they have a hundred billion dollars
or something like that so which is you
know arguably what we spent on Ukraine in
three years it was probably more but let's

(01:14:23):
just say that's the number and that's tax
-free the only tax they have is 4
% they pay to the colleges and the
rest is just you know who's managing that
money what's happening with that it's I think
black rocks got most that's that's the scam
if you ask me the scam is those
endowments and that's that's why Trump administration is

(01:14:46):
being hard-nosed about it they want control
over that or they want to know what's
going on with it that that I see
it as a possible source of taxation that's
public that can pay yet less yeah in
other words the taxpayer can pay less and
those guys can pay their fair share where's
their fair share for a start yeah I
mean especially Harvard but all of them have

(01:15:08):
huge endowments all of them do all of
them it's that to me is a is
a money scam those endowments is a tax
avoidance system for mega elites it has to
be certainly if Black Rocks in there then
can't be anything good no I mean and
then and then the other students who get

(01:15:30):
cajoled into a gender studies diploma poli sci
you know they owe $100,000 and they
got nothing nowhere to go if they owe
$100,000 that's low it's cheap yeah so
well that's good that's it that's not getting

(01:15:52):
enough attention that that endowment scam is is
a problem I got did you receive the
Michelle Obama clip 20 times which one the
one where she's going on about well there's
a bunch of them which one you talking
about well the one that's going around is

(01:16:13):
oddly clips which of course makes me always
go for the original oh it was a
slip-up she's saying she's a man she's
saying oh I love that clip here you
know I always you don't you notice it's
not on my list no but I thought
that clip was was terrific it's obviously chopped
off but people like this to me like
this is clip of the day this is

(01:16:35):
the best it's a very funny clip big
Mike is a man you know just so
proud of how you are being a role
model for dealing with a child that's transgender
absolutely and that's you know that warms my
heart particularly as a black man so the
video is the best so the video cuts

(01:16:57):
to her brother while she's talking so the
implication is as a black man you had
to deal with me a black man who's
transgender I'm not fighting that obvious truth

(01:17:19):
but here is the full clip in context
where she's actually talking to one of the
Wayans brothers about his transgender child well speaking
of parenting I wanted to talk Marlon a
bit about you know see they missed a
little Marlon bit just so proud of how
you are being a role model for dealing

(01:17:40):
with a child that's transgender absolutely and that's
you know that warms my heart particularly as
a black man you know I would you
care to share that journey of their transition
really taught me what real unconditional love was

(01:18:03):
by the way notice how Marlon is so
psyop that he's calling his transgender child they
when I went when they went through the
transition I actually went through the transition from
denial to complete acceptance and it took me
a week to get there only a week
it's easy it's easy parents only a week

(01:18:23):
unbelievable so anyway I just I had to
get that out of the way because that
was all over you of the text groups
in Fredericksburg are exploding big Mike it's true
JFK jr.
is coming back next no when I saw
it I knew I was gonna you know

(01:18:44):
you knew immediately was like miss it was
clipped for that purpose yeah and and I
figured you'd go grab the real deal and
you play it out so I didn't have
to even do it of course I did
of course good for you that's what I
do defending the woman hey we had a
big a very big bill pass in the

(01:19:08):
house the Texas House this week I think
two days ago and it's not it's not
law yet because it has to go to
the Senate this is the undisclosed AI generated
images and political messages bill that's not the
real title but it's interesting and the debate
is interesting around that as well former House

(01:19:30):
Speaker did feel in is the one that
filed House Bill 366 he was the subject
of political attacks and memes in his most
recent re-election campaign mail flyers depicted him
hugging Democrat Nancy Pelosi something that he never
did but he says that's not why he
decided to file this bill under House Bill
366 it requires any political advertising that uses

(01:19:54):
altered images including generative AI or deepfake videos
to contain a disclosure stating that the content
did not occur failure to do so would
be a class-a misdemeanor current state law
prohibits the use of AI generated pictures within
30 days of an election date feeling says
this is about making sure election law keeps
up with the evolving AI industry because a

(01:20:16):
deceptive ad could swing an election it's a
very common punishment when you're dealing with something
as important as an election especially election I
could say is a stolen election when in
the last 72 hours of a campaign a
video can be released that entirely changes the
nature of the electorate going into election day
several lawmakers lined up to speak against the

(01:20:37):
bill some said the bill is too vague
and could face First Amendment legal challenges some
conservatives also said the criminal penalties are too
steep and people should not be thrown in
jail for political speech this is insanity that
we would propose such a harsh penalty for
simply expressing our displeasure of an elected official

(01:20:57):
this is anti-american this is anti-constitution
feeling says he understands that but the penalties
need to be major to make sure that
multimillion-dollar campaigns play by the rules the
bill now heads over to the Senate for
consideration and it could frankly face an uphill
battle because lieutenant governor Dan Patrick is the
one that controls the Senate Patrick and Phelan

(01:21:18):
have had a rocky relationship to say the
least that goes back to the impeachment of
Attorney General Ken Paxton and several Senate bills
that have died over in the house over
the last couple of legislative sessions so this
is a again one of the only interesting
uses of artificial quote intelligence I feel you

(01:21:39):
should be able to do that it brings
humor into the process I'm delighted with it
and yeah absolutely you should put a total
agreement yeah put a disclaimer on it just
like the drug you don't even do off
screw the disclaimer I'm okay I'm okay with
the bill that says the disclaimer could just
do it like the ad companies may cause
a no leakage you may die and that's
all you need to do you know just

(01:22:00):
but the thing is even with the disclaimer
it doesn't matter because some of these things
will crop up as memes and they'll be
coming in anonymously from out of state it's
great I love and it's gonna show the
guy kissing Pelosi on the lips or whatever
who cares it's great but you think it's
funny and you know and if you can't
counter it if you can't counter it you're

(01:22:21):
this is a modern era yeah if you're
being besmirched smeared this besmirched I tell you
have to be able to cut as a
politician mm-hmm unless you're being libeled which
is different if you're being just smeared just
casually smeared is you have to be have

(01:22:42):
enough chops yes to get out of the
smear using your own wiles your own but
you by using your own use your own
AI yeah you can do the same thing
to the other guy what's that in your
mouth yeah yeah it's this is the

(01:23:04):
only thing they're worried about by the way
that's all they're worried about AI ma'am
I did some more vibe coding I will
say when it comes to getting me actual
results with coding grok funny enough someone suggests
I've tried them all I've tried chat GPT
Claude cursor cursor is not as way too

(01:23:27):
complicated that integrates with their IDE and I
don't have any of that I've just want
a simple script which I could have done
in two hours of my buddy Dave and
we would have been done with it but
now it's taking me collectively three weeks of
at least several hours on several of those
days to come up with a simple script
in PA in Python I'm sorry grok actually
did did pretty well but there's no absolutely

(01:23:52):
no evidence of intelligence it's it's just looking
at the words the language the structure the
syntax it can do all that and it's
just using old stuff that it learned somewhere
else and I know this because when it
comes to one particular language liquid soap long
story it's it's doing everything wrong and they

(01:24:13):
all do it wrong because they all have
sucked up the same wrong information and that
whole project is a mess with githubs and
get labs and different documentation and so it
has no intelligence but it's doing enough stuff
that yeah okay it this is a 50
billion dollar industry not a trillion dollar industry

(01:24:35):
it's still all parlor tricks have it right
your your Dvorak and substack you won't you'll
throw it out I could probably have it
do something and then I could edit it
to an extreme I'd probably spend more time
editing exactly that it would take actually right

(01:24:55):
from scratch yes not an unusual situation that's
the point that's exactly the point is but
if you can't yeah but I can write
from scratch and I can write pretty quickly
yes but if you can't write from scratch
you'll write some mediocre over word salad that's
over inflated and I'll have a little nice

(01:25:16):
little icons next to it it's no good
emojis emojis emojis and it'll start off with
I'm so happy to find you well exactly
what you're gonna get oh man so Ava
flooding a brook do you remember how your

(01:25:37):
buddy she's not my buddy I've never met
her oh she seems like she'd be your
buddy well she happens to be Dutch and
she has the the the I'm Adam she's
Ava so you would think coincidentally also born
on September 3rd which is my birthday well

(01:25:57):
there you go you two are meant for
each other we're twin flames I tell you
Tina's rolling her eyes when she hears that
so she posted a very interesting video about
her iPhone and I need to share this
because she there's if this is true and
I'll take her at her word it has

(01:26:18):
some interesting implications and of course she's using
it for engagement farming but here we go
hi everyone so yesterday I got two messages
from Apple stating that they detected a mercenary
spyware attack against my iPhone first I thought
it was fake I got two of these
messages and I thought it's probably not real
but upon further research it turns out that

(01:26:39):
these messages actually are real and so that
this is actually happening and in the message
they say that this targeted mercenary spyware attack
is probably happening because of who I am
and what I do and then they continue
to say that mercenary spyware attacks such as

(01:27:00):
Pegasus for example are exceptionally rare and that
they're extremely sophisticated they use really strong words
they're saying that the extreme cost sophistication and
worldwide nature of mercenary spyware attacks makes some
of the most advanced digital threats in existence
today and they're sending this to me because
they've detected that it's going on against my

(01:27:21):
iPhone so this is real obviously I don't
know for sure if any of that spyware
has been installed on my phone I definitely
don't know who did it so this could
be anyone this could be name a government
that doesn't like me this could be any
organization that doesn't like me secret services you
name it but what I do know for

(01:27:42):
sure is that this is an attempt to
intimidate me an attempt to silence me obviously
and I can tell them because they're probably
already watching on this phone right now that
it's not gonna work so you can try
and intimidate me all you want but I'm
not gonna stop that's all I want you
guys and I want the people spying on

(01:28:05):
me through this phone to know so I
don't for a second think that they're using
this to intimidate her she didn't know it
they didn't say hey we've got your phone
we saw what you did send me a
Bitcoin none of that I think she is
being used to infect other people if this
is true and I'll take her at her

(01:28:25):
word that she got these notices from Apple
which is very concerning well there is a
page Apple does I'm looking at it now
mm-hmm Apple does have a page up
about it is call it from Apple and
it says about the Apple threat notifications which
is what she's talking about and protecting against
mercenary spyware and there's a long lecture here
hmm how do you know it's not a

(01:28:47):
phony deal how do you get it do
you get it by by tapping on a
link and a text message I'm trying to
find out because they're very wordy this has
obviously been written by a no Apple intelligence
probably not AI Apple which is worse yes
it is according to public reporting and research
by civil society organizations technology firms and journalists

(01:29:11):
individually targeted attacks of such exceptional of such
exceptional cost and complexity have historically been associated
with state actors including private companies developing mercenary
spyware on their behalf such as Pegasus from
the NSO group though deployed against a very
small number of individuals often journalists activists politicians

(01:29:31):
and diplomats it could be I could be
actioned against me for example and it's in
the drawers we speak mercenary spyware attacks are
ongoing and global and since 2021 we have
sent Apple threat notifications multiple times a year
as we have detected these oh that's interesting
they can detect them and to date we

(01:29:53):
have notified users in over 150 countries in
total goes on and on I think so
I however I think she was used as
a well first of all your phone is
an attack vector on your life that's just
a known fact which is why I love
my light phone three it doesn't do nothing

(01:30:15):
however just coincidentally yesterday Tina comes in oh
my god you won't have believe what happened
to David so what happened said someone took
over his phone he no longer receives his
own text messages that's how we that's part
of how he noticed it they they stole
his identity they created a driver's license with

(01:30:39):
a driver's license were able to unfreeze all
of his credit he has credit frozen at
the three big credit agencies they unfroze the
credit and then how do you unfreeze the
credit well you have to you can go
online and say this is me and they
had a driver's license they had a social
security number so did he is he the
one who froze the credit yes he froze
it he had it frozen okay like most

(01:31:00):
smart people you have your credit frozen so
you had his credit frozen they unfroze his
credit they could took completely they took over
the functions at least the the text messages
so they cloned or whatever they did that
I mean and the whole text messaging system
is that you know system was a system
7 whatever it's called that you just go

(01:31:20):
to some podunk country and say here's 50
grand let me on the text messaging system
okay here you go you know that by
the way those Trump messages you're getting don't
tap on the link okay it's probably gonna
get Pegasus spyware or other mercenary spyware and
then they so then they unfroze his credit
and immediately went to buy a Mercedes and

(01:31:43):
a Porsche Mercedes was okay with him the
Porsche people called called him at home and
said hey are you sure you want this
Porsche and that's how they found out about
it but the Mercedes deal was done so
your phone is a threat vector of epic
proportion and not my phone not yours no

(01:32:06):
and should not be used and just to
complete the whole Scott the whole spy grid
sound like Katherine Austin Fitz right now after
Starlink which I saw them fly over again
last night and I wanted to take a
picture however the the camera on the on

(01:32:30):
this phone is shit so I could not
get a picture but I saw the whole
train of lights going right overhead I think
it has to be on a clear night
when there's just a little bit of moon
we have a crescent waning yeah you have
to catch it because they're over you're over
there over your all the time you don't
get to see him necessarily it caught it

(01:32:50):
and it was just beautiful I'm like oh
my yeah I've seen I've never seen any
second time seeing them while walking the dog
and now well there's more coming Amazon has
launched its first batch of internet broadcasting satellites
kicking off its long-delayed deployment of an
internet from Space Network 27 satellites are now

(01:33:11):
in orbit at an altitude of nearly 630
kilometers above the Earth's surface Monday's launch from
the Atlas 5 rocket which took off from
Florida follows that of two experimental satellites launched
two years ago as part of project Kuiper
at ten billion dollars effort unveiled in 2019
competing with rival Elon Musk Starlink Jeff business

(01:33:34):
team claims that the satellites still launching are
now much more advanced than the first two
the company aims to put more than 3
,200 of these satellites into orbit marks SpaceX
has already launched more than 8,000 Starlink
since 2019 meanwhile a growing number of astronomers
are warning that the large number of satellites

(01:33:55):
is hampering their work and could pose an
accident risk yeah whatever so there's 600 kilometers
but Starlink's are lower I think I think
they're close to the 350 400 kilometers well
let's find out okay what the book of

(01:34:21):
knowledge is slow today I have to type
something in I know I know and on
that phone with those little keyboard is very
hard I know I'm using the regular I
know I know there's no threat vector against
you you're clean man you got no mercenaries
I like a 342 okay so Amazon's gonna

(01:34:41):
be at twice that height which will induce
latency more just no good doesn't seem like
it's good but but did you hear that
8,000 satellites yeah I heard that that's
a lot man the end and you know
everyone's also jacked oh yeah soon my t
-mobile phone will be able to use Starlink
okay talk about a threat vector all they

(01:35:05):
have to do then is just target zoom
in enhance rotate fire yeah pretty much you'll
be done no they're gonna first I'll be
targeting the cartels in Mexico oh yeah oh
yeah I think we bring back ham radio
for the kids it was much better you

(01:35:27):
know short bursts yep you know and you
can do it you can push a button
you can send text messages to each other
that looks cool you walk around school kids
would be like yeah the thing on your
belt yeah make it right make it a
racket all

(01:35:51):
right do you have any do you have
any more sequences because I have something I
want to try and roll out and it's
gonna be difficult and you're gonna hate me
for it so I want you to get
whatever you have that you want to get
out of the way let's do it well
yeah let's see did I want to play
some data stuff too from the USDS the
Department of was data's whatever what the US
Department of Data Service that's the original name

(01:36:13):
for Doge no it this a group of
well you know yes the United States Digital
Service that is the original but but they're
bitching and moaning because they're getting fired and
they and but they make some good points
that this is on NPR which is you
know they're big supporters of the haters of
Doge and the supporters of everything that's in
government but this woman makes a good point

(01:36:35):
and it's the stuff we talk about and
I don't know what they're gonna do about
it Karen Moronsky Chapman never saw her job
as political she just wanted to make the
government work a little better I joined USDS
to help people help American people to deliver
better services she's a data scientist and for
the last couple of years Karen's been quietly

(01:36:56):
working deep inside the federal government she's a
little known agency called the United States Digital
Service or USDS this is her first media
interview a lot of what I was doing
was trying to bridge the different data silos
across government and really just help agencies be

(01:37:17):
more efficient and effective by using data to
inform decisions you can think of the USDS
as a kind of helpdesk though that would
be underselling it it's more like helpdesk meets
SEAL Team 6 kind of special ops team
for broken websites when federal systems start to
fall apart it's the USDS that gets the

(01:37:38):
call like in the spring of 2024 when
the Department of Education rolled out its new
FAFSA application that's the form college students used
to apply for federal financial aid and last
spring it broke in a spectacular way the
Department of Education just found a calculation error
on hundreds of thousands of student aid applications

(01:38:01):
forms failed to upload pages led nowhere students
born in the year 2000 walked out completely
it was chaos the FAFSA fiasco was pretty
on par with like healthcare.gov like it
was pretty close to being a healthcare.gov
situation healthcare.gov that was the catastrophic rollout

(01:38:24):
of the Affordable Care Act what we call
Obamacare these days the website to sign up
crashed just two hours after launch just to
confirm United States Digital Services was renamed by
President Trump to Doge and they're using the
same terms connecting the data silos acting as
a helpdesk so this is one of the

(01:38:45):
unsuccessful data scientists who were there and really
weren't able to achieve anything except a very
expensive Obamacare website hold on she's still there
this is the thing that's weird about this
story oh wow okay let it go it
wouldn't be an exaggeration to say it became

(01:39:06):
a national embarrassment so disastrous it prompted the
government to create the USDS to be a
rescue team for things like this so when
FAFSA fell apart in 2024 it was Karen
and her team who stepped in they stabilized
the site unlocked access and got students the
aid they needed they've done this kind of

(01:39:27):
work for the CDC Social Security education it's
high stakes high pressure but Karen loved it
it's really easy to get addicted to this
work because it's so meaningful there's very few
roles that you can be positively impacting the
life of millions if not hundreds of millions
of people and for a while it felt
well safe totally immune from the turn of

(01:39:49):
politics yeah like technology is not political like
technology should be nonpartisan it doesn't matter who's
president I'm here to serve the people but
I was wrong George has proved that technology
and its use can be highly partisan the
Department of Government efficiency is charged with rooting
out waste fraud and abuse but when it

(01:40:11):
made its way to the US Digital Services
Department it appeared to be taking an agency
built to protect the government's digital systems and
started doing just the opposite a good analogy
is it's like Jenga and at some point
George is pulling out pieces and something's gonna
topple and we may not be able to
put it back wasn't Kara Swisher's ex-wife

(01:40:33):
in charge of her for a while Megan
didn't she go there that I know of
yeah I think she did I think she
did and and was it Matt Cutts from
Google he was there for a while the
guy who did Google search they had you
know what they were doing is they were
mine they were the ones that were mining
everything getting all the data for Obama that's

(01:40:55):
what those guys were doing I remember this
we talked about it at nauseam ad nauseam
ad nauseam I tell you so she doesn't
she doesn't like do doge's doge is weaponizing
my department is that the story I think
she lost one of her friends or something
but to doge you know that I got

(01:41:17):
fired I mean I can't really tell but
but she has a complaint coming up that
is is valuable I remember when I heard
that they had right access to Treasury I
was like oh my gosh like you can
break things they're not small things trillions of
dollars worth of things like Social Security and
tax refunds the majority of folks I see

(01:41:40):
having been hired into doge are very junior
these systems are not going to be anything
like anything that they have seen before take
the Social Security system it was built in
the 60s and 70s and it runs on
COBOL a programming language that is two or
even three times older than some of the
doge staffers they clearly don't understand COBOL when

(01:42:01):
they were like oh there's a hundred and
fifty year olds at Social Security Elon Musk
talked about that during an interview on Fox.
The date gamut.
Pressure examination of Social Security and we've got
people in there that a hundred and fifty
years old now do you know anyone that's
150 I don't okay and Musk said it
was proof of fraud except Karen says it

(01:42:24):
actually wasn't and it's like no that's the
default date for COBOL like if the field
is missing just the default date that's why
there's all these 150 year olds.
These hundred and fifty year olds weren't getting
checks they just didn't have a birth date
in the system and Karen said she would
have told the doge people as much if
they'd only asked but they never did they

(01:42:46):
just assumed they knew better.
Well we had that from our dude's name
Ben the day after this this story broke
about the 150 year olds now NPR is
showing up with the story six minutes worth
of story.
Yeah this is pretty funny but she does
the point about COBOL is it is a
good point but except for one thing that

(01:43:06):
I don't know why it hasn't been discussed
it's not even mentioned.
You mean why is there no birth date
for these people?
No what about COBOL?
COBOL is not hard to learn any one
of these guys who are coding in machine
language or assembler or anything actually can learn
COBOL it's one of the easiest languages to
learn why doesn't they just say some junior

(01:43:28):
guys I'm gonna learn COBOL it's not a
big deal that's why it's called a common
business-oriented language it was designed to be
used by schmucks.
COBOL schmoball just use grock baby I'm sure
grock does a great job at COBOL.
You're right it's common what was it again
was the acronym?

(01:43:49):
Common business-oriented language.
Yeah was it relatively simple unsophisticated language.
Well it's got a sophistication to it but
it's very it's very I learned it once
I don't know if I could code in
it now but it's not a hard it's
not it's Fortran is harder.

(01:44:11):
Like COBOL is for schmucks that is a
t-shirt or a bumper sticker right there.
I mean it's not you don't have to
be a genius to code COBOL that's the
point.
Yeah but I'm still stuck on how come
there are so many records in the system
where they don't have a birth date what
kind of system are you running over there?
Well there's that.

(01:44:32):
All right so since you broach the money
topic with the Treasury there I'm going to
attempt and I may fail and I hope
you give me some grace.
No.
I hope you give me some grace.
This is this is this preliminary stuff you're
doing right now is already setting up the

(01:44:53):
wall.
I think I can explain the stable coin
gambit.
Oh I don't know if you can I
mean I don't this is gonna bore people
stiff.
Well I mean would you rather play tik
-tok clips instead?
I mean I did.
I would actually yes but but but if

(01:45:14):
you want to make the attempt I don't
know why you want to do this.
Because it's after the you want to do
it after the donation segment?
No why would we do it after the
donation segment?
Okay I'll do it all right I'll do
it after the donation.
No I'm just saying that because it's gonna
give us a low count.
No I'll do it after.

(01:45:35):
All right this is attention but then if
I do it after the donation segment you
can't grouse and go crap until the very
end.
Oh I'll save it yeah I can save
it.
Okay yeah.
But how many clips are we talking about
here?
You make it sound like it's gonna be
a half-hour presentation on stable coin.

(01:45:55):
No I think it's probably about 17 minutes.
Oh my god.
Well it might it will affect it affects
world affairs.
I'm just saying it will affect world affairs
and we have to learn things about what
is a euro dollar.
Do you know what a euro dollar is?

(01:46:17):
No I don't.
We hear it all the time.
I can look it up.
It's easier to look it up seems to
me.
I'll look it up.
Yeah okay well you do that you look
it up and then I'll play some m5m
news to entertain everybody to keep them listening
until we get to the donation segment.
Oh chills this morning anticipation is building for
new music from one of the greatest voices
of all time.

(01:46:37):
Yes eight-time Grammy winner Barbra Streisand announced
this morning she is dropping a brand new
album.
And we just heard a sneak peek of
the first single called first time ever I
saw your face the new record is called
the secret of life partners volume 2.
By the way stop the clip for a
second.
This is around pet peeves.

(01:46:58):
Why don't they use the term like you
always use in the past release yes release
you're gonna release a new album instead of
she's gonna drop an album.
Well that's supposed to be hip or something.
That's what the kids are talking about man
you drop an album and by the way
they they're so hip they call the Hoosiers
the Hoziers which is kind of cool.

(01:47:19):
The Hozier?
It's a sequel to her 2014 platinum certified
album and it's been more than a decade
in the works.
She collaborated on the album with some of
the best in the business including Bob Dylan
Paul McCartney.
First off two dead guys right at the
top the best in the business business including
Bob Dylan.
McCartney's alive?
Barely.

(01:47:39):
Including Bob Dylan.
We all know we all know John.
And Dylan's alive.
Dylan's barely alive and we all know John
buried Paul.
Stop.
Including Bob Dylan Paul McCartney Ariana Grande Mariah
Carey Hozier and others.
Hozier.
The album comes out June 27th.
Alright Babs we're looking forward to that.
I'm looking forward to that whoo a new

(01:48:01):
duets album just dropped.
No she's not.
It's dropped.
It's dropped.
Pick it up.
It's dropped.
Who saw this coming everybody?
On the medical watch for you this afternoon
a newly found impact of vaccines on women.
Medical reporter Dina Baer is here to explain
Dina.
Lourdes and Ben vaccines for the flu and
COVID can alter the menstrual cycle.

(01:48:23):
It's not a permanent impact but for women
who have a regular cycle getting a flu
shot or a COVID vaccine changed the length
of the cycle.
Multiple studies confirm menstrual disturbances following vaccines.
Now the Journal of the American Medical Association
confirms concerns expressed by women.
Experts say there's no need to worry the
cycle returns to normal and there shouldn't be

(01:48:45):
a reason for vaccine hesitancy based on the
menstrual cycle impact.
We hammered this during COVID.
Yep yep yep.
And we got excoriated for it.
It's bullcrap.
I did specifically.
We had a lot of people angry and
they all came back said I'm sorry you
were right.
It interrupted.

(01:49:06):
It disrupted.
It increased flow.
It became irregular like awesome like crazy flow.
Yeah the nurses were reporting it.
But don't worry there's nothing to worry about.
Nothing to worry about at all.
Don't worry about it.
These people are ghouls.
And who saw this coming?

(01:49:27):
Researchers at the University of Virginia say a
new study has proven safe and effective.
Whoa safe and effective you know that's gonna
be a doozy.
This time I actually believe it.
Safe and effective at desensitizing children to peanut
allergy.
Yeah UVA Health children's researchers tested children by
giving them increased doses of peanut protein.
Now by the end of the study all

(01:49:49):
27 children were able to eat 500 milligrams
of peanut protein daily.
Eight children are now freely eating peanuts.
Researchers are calling for larger clinical trials to
advance what could be a game-changing new
treatment for peanut allergies in young children.
Oh go figure.
For years we've been oh you can't have

(01:50:09):
any peanuts near my child.
My child was no good.
Whereas if you just expose the kid to
peanuts it turns out they're okay.
Well they were never exposed young enough that's
always been the issue.
Yes it's like so obvious.
People.
Where's Bobby the op in all of this?

(01:50:30):
Yeah that's what I like.
Where's the Epstein files?
Yeah I got some super cuts that'll round
it out.
Okay super cuts are always good.
I'm glad you have them.
Yo you have three holy crap.
Yeah because I'm they're leading up to the
current super cut that's floating around after chaos
and threat to democracy.
We have a couple of here.
We have the moment.

(01:50:51):
This one was a flop.
The strength that we have.
Sorry.
Is the moment flop?
The strength that we have is in this
moment.
Listen to your constituents.
Center them in this moment.
But I can tell you that there are
a lot of people that are watching his
leadership in this moment.
This is the moment.
No I think about what's happening you know

(01:51:11):
in this moment.
What's important is that we meet this moment.
So are these current Democrats the ones to
meet the moment?
What do you want to see us doing
right now in this moment?
And which Democrats are actually going to stand
up against Elon Musk and Donald Trump in
this moment?

(01:51:32):
The fight that you all are exhibiting is
not just what the base wants but it's
what this moment requires.
The strength that we have is in this
moment.
Well by the way I think we hit
we played this one already.
In fact I'm pretty sure.
Yeah this next one might be.
You talking about this one or the next
one?
No the in this moment.

(01:51:52):
We played the in this moment.
But it was a flop.
Just the idea is that they were just
repeating this is a flop that never worked
out.
Yep that's a flop.
And then we had the threat to democracy.
We had the chaos which I don't have.
I mean those are also super cuts they
don't have.
But then we have the social media dangerous
series which we I think may have played
but this is another version of it because

(01:52:14):
it's got the the the annoying overlays.
But this is another example of something that
was they they they push this stuff out
trying to I don't know if they're looking
for it to catch hold or I would
say these are ineffective.
Hi I'm Fox San Antonio's Jessica Hedley.
And I'm Ryan Wolf.
Our greatest responsibility is to serve our Treasure

(01:52:36):
Valley communities.
The El Paso Las Cruces communities.
Eastern Iowa communities.
Mid-Michigan communities.
We are extremely proud of the quality balanced
journalism that CBS 4 News produces.
But we are concerned about the quality of
the news stories that are plaguing our country.
The sharing of biased and false news has

(01:52:57):
become all too common on social media.
More alarming some media outlets publish these same
fake stories without checking facts first.
The sharing of biased and false news has
become all too common on social media.
More alarming some media outlets publish these same
fake stories without checking facts first.

(01:53:17):
Unfortunately some members of the media use their
platforms to push their own personal bias and
agenda to control exactly what people think.
And this is extremely dangerous to our democracy.

(01:54:09):
Yeah, I'm going to use these.
I'm speaking to the high school class.
Yeah, you should definitely use that one.
About propaganda.
Yeah, I'm going to show this to them.
Yeah, and it's like, it's an embarrassment.
But they continue, and this is the latest
one.
I think this is pretty new.
This one I have not seen.
This is the escalation.
They're trying to get this into the mainstream

(01:54:29):
thinking that, you know, Trump's escalation.
I don't know why.
Is that a bad term?
Or they're trying to equate it with the
Soviet Union?
I'm not sure, but they're trying to get
this word in there.
And it's all the same jerks.
We begin tonight with the escalation in the
president's crackdown on illegal immigration.

(01:54:50):
Today's dramatic escalation in the Trump administration's conflict
with judges.
The Trump administration signaling a major escalation in
its deportation efforts.
Today, an escalation in the Trump administration's battle
with the judiciary.
Tensions between local and federal authorities over President
Trump's immigration crackdown escalated today.

(01:55:10):
We begin this hour with a major escalation
of the Trump administration's crackdown on immigration.
We begin with what appears to be a
major escalation in the Trump administration's deportation efforts.
And what is a major escalation in the
battle here in D.C. over immigration and
deportation?
This feels like an insane and reckless escalation
from the Trump administration arresting a judge.

(01:55:32):
I will tell you, you are not alone.
This is a dramatic escalation.
More aggressive moves, more escalation.
Trump's escalation of his migrant purge.
This kind of escalatory action.
This is a dramatic escalation.
We see an immigration escalation.
An escalation.

(01:55:53):
Wow, that's a good one.
I'm going to give you a borderline for
that.
That was dynamite.
Borderline.
That was good.
Escalation.
I need the whole Sharpton thing.
This escalation of Trump.
The escalation.

(01:56:13):
I love him.
Call it a migrant purge.
Nice.
Migrant purge.
And with that escalation, I'd like to say
in the morning to you, the man who
put the sea in the unclippable wench, say
hello to my friend on the other end,
the one, the only, Mr. John C.
DeVore.

(01:56:35):
Hi, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam
Crane.
In the morning, I ship the sea of
Buddhists on the ground, feeding the air subs
in the water to the dames and knights
out there.
In the morning to you, the trolls in
the troll room.
Hold on a second.
Well, I don't know, man.
I think your supercut chased everybody away.
1880.
I think the threat of your...
Oh, hold on.

(01:56:56):
Oh, no.
Oh, right away, we lose the...
Right away.
Hold on a second.
That's crazy.
Right away.
The minute you started talking, it switched interfaces
again.
Oh, can you hear me now?
I can hear you now.
I hear you.
Can you hear me now?
I hear you now.
You sound great.
I don't know what that is.

(01:57:17):
I don't know.
Something's triggering it.
What?
The question is, what's triggering it?
Something.
Anyway, 1880 is the count on the trolls
in the troll room, trollroom.io, and that
is where you can go to listen to
the show live.
We've been doing it live for a long
time.
We are in our 18th year, and the
troll room is fun.

(01:57:38):
It's ephemeral because you can go in there
and go, troll whatever, and it just scrolls
right off, and it doesn't matter.
Then you're just shouting into the void.
It doesn't really make any difference.
So get it out of your system in
the troll room and listen to us live
at trollroom.io or get a modern podcast
app.
I really do recommend it.
By the way, I think we talked about
pocket casts last time, and so there's now

(01:58:02):
definitive answer from Apple that the donate button
in the app is okay.
So everybody is now doing this.
They're adding the donut, the donate button into
their apps.
Apple said it's okay, so it's okay?
Yes.
Is that the way this works?
Yes.
If it's not okay, then, oh, you have
to use Apple Pay, and we take 30%.

(01:58:25):
Don't you understand?
Oh, I see what you're talking about.
This has always been the problem, and the
app developers have always been afraid, like, oh,
man, my app will get rejected if I
put this in there.
No.
No.
You can put it in there, and it's
great because then people are listening.
Oh, I should support these guys.
Let me just look at my app that
I'm already using.
Click.
Boom.

(01:58:45):
You can support us as part of our
value for value method.
By the way, troublemakers abound.
We got an AI-generated note from Mel
Cooley, executive producer.
Did you see this?
No.
An AI review of our show.

(01:59:05):
Urgent content review and advertiser feedback.
I think I did see this.
I didn't look at it, though.
Gentlemen, this memo requires your immediate attention.
Following the broadcast of Episode 1759, we have
received deeply concerning feedback from our key advertisers.
The response has been negative and frankly threatens
our financial stability.
Specifically, advertisers have cited the following issues as

(01:59:28):
problematic and potentially brand damaging.
The give on Asian media assassination tagline.
Did we use that?
I don't remember that.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I don't know either.
This was flagged immediately as insensitive and potentially
offensive.
The lengthy and seemingly unfocused segments.
Did I get this email or not?
No, I don't think so.
I don't remember it.
So AI analyzed our show, 1759, as an

(01:59:53):
advertiser, and they hate it.
Several advertisers noted the extended period.
That proves our complete point.
Yes.
I'll read a few more.
Several advertisers noted the extended period dedicated to
topics like the Pope's funeral and the minutiae
of online hoaxes.
They feel the show lacked a clear through
line, at times meandering, losing audience engagement, and

(02:00:13):
by extension, the value of their placements.
The tapping me along discussion.
While intended as analysis, the extended speculation on
Trump's ambiguous phrasing.
Oh, by the way, that's interesting they brought
that up.
Yep.
Because we know what it means.
Well, there's two versions.
Well, the version I believe to be the
correct version is the golfing one.

(02:00:34):
Yes, I agree.
I think that's the right one.
Because he's a golfer.
Yes.
Tapping along as a golf term.
Tapping, you know, putt, putt, putt, tapping the
ball along slowly.
There is a second one, however, from producer
Andy.
He says, in a pig slaughterhouse, there's a
guy who uses a rattle attached to a

(02:00:55):
broomstick to keep the pigs moving into their
final destination by tapping it on the floor
behind them.
Yeah, I don't think that's it.
I like it, though.
I like the visual.
I like the visual.
But I'm glad that the AI picked it
up.
Because they picked it up as boring.
Yes, boring.
Now, wait, let's back off for a second.
Now, why was this sent in the first

(02:01:15):
place?
What is the end game here of sending
this note to us?
We don't have advertisers, so it's got nothing
to do with any real advertisers.
It's some sort of a phony baloney scam?
No, this is someone who thought they could
find a good use of AI.
Oh, and this is what they found?

(02:01:36):
This is it.
The extended listener donation segment.
Here we go.
While listener support is vital, the length of
the donation readouts, including personal anecdotes and tangents,
was cited as excessive and disruptive to the
show's flow.
Advertisers are concerned that this extended segment reduces
the time available for content and their messaging.

(02:01:57):
And then finally, tone and language.
Certain advertisers expressed discomfort with the overall tone,
particularly the use of dismissive language like bullcrap
and jamokes.
Well, at least he nailed it.
And the sometimes cynical and negative framing of
news events.
They prefer a more measured and analytical approach.

(02:02:19):
And it goes on and on and on
and on.
Wow, you've got to send me that.
Yeah, I will.
The AI then made a rap song out
of it, which I will not bore you
with.
No, you don't need that.
It's horrible.
I'm sure it is.
It's just crap.
So anyway, Time Talent Treasure is how we
operate this ship, which means we need your

(02:02:39):
financial support.
But we appreciate any kind of time and
talent that you put into it, which includes
the work that our artists do.
They always provide us with a piece of
artwork that we can use as the album
art and to get attention for engagement farming
on the socials, to be quite honest about
it.
And it always seems to work.
People love this one, although I did get
the errands.

(02:03:00):
Man, if you hate Tim Pool so much,
just don't talk about him.
You're sending audience to him.
Okay.
All right.
I'm sure.
Because Episode 1759 titled Eat the Babies.
I don't care about sending audience to Tim
Pool one way or the other.
I know.
But this is I'm just giving you the
feedback.
I'm giving you true.
I mean, if you if he gets audience,

(02:03:22):
he gets some recognition on the show.
Maybe he'll maybe maybe he'll log roll and
give us a log roll.
It's called pod rolling.
Pod rolling.
You pod roll.
You don't log roll.
That's so 2005.
It's pod rolling.
The artwork came to us from a well
-known artist, Capitalist Agenda, and it was indeed

(02:03:43):
the Beanie Boys Beanie with the googly eyes
in his googly eyes is what made it
work in his seat as at the new
media chair.
Oh, by the way, I had a where
do I have that?
There was a new guy in the new
media chair.
Let me see.
Where did I have that?

(02:04:04):
And the new guy, you know, that that's
an embarrassment being in that chair, it seems
to me.
Well, the guy in at this time was
Winston Marshall, formerly guitarist and banjo player of
Mumford and Sons.
He's British, and he now occupies this seat.

(02:04:26):
And I think this was also a set
up bull crap question.
Sorry, advertisers.
As he was, he was referring to the
sordid state of affairs in his home country
of the United Kingdoms.
It's in Britain.
We have had a quarter of a million
people issued non-crime hate incidents.

(02:04:50):
As we speak, there are people in prison
for quite literally reposting memes.
We have extensive prison sentences and for for
tweets, social media posts and general free speech
issues.
Would the Trump administration consider political asylum for

(02:05:10):
British citizens in such a situation?
Well, to your latter question, it's a very
good one.
I have not heard that proposed to the
president, nor have I spoken to him about
that idea.
But I certainly can and talk to our
national security team and see if it's something
the administration would entertain.
Yes, please.
Asylum for the Brits, I tell you, that
was a set up question.

(02:05:32):
So we know that that chair is there
for bull crap.
It's the set up bull crap chair.
Yes.
And of course, everyone goes along with it.
I wonder if they hand them a script.
Would you like you do want to be
in the chair this week?
Sure.
Well, can you do this?
And they give you give you a script.
They look it over and you decide, yeah,

(02:05:54):
I can do that.
If they do, I have to memorize it.
Yeah, you have to memorize it.
OK, I can manage that.
Imagine that they said, OK, Kerry, you're up.
You're in the new media chair.
I'd sit there and then I just I
just I'd have the script.
But then I'd hold up a picture and
say, hey, Carolyn, what's this in your mouth?
That's what I would do.
That would make me.
No, you're right.
I wouldn't do that.

(02:06:14):
You know, the first lobbering.
Hey, Carol.
Anyway, thank you very much.
Capitalist agenda.
You're a unanimous winner.
Let's take a quick look at no agenda.
Our generator dot com.
Was there anything that had a lot of
tapping stuff that.
Yeah, no, that was so head and shoulders

(02:06:36):
above everything else.
I didn't want to actually use it because
I thought we don't need to send audience
to him.
Just send audience.
That's so much.
It's kind of an insulting thing.
But you like it.
But it's so funny.
You have to say you said specifically it's
the googly eyes that make it work.
It is the googly eyes.
It was definitely the googly eyes.

(02:06:57):
It's fantastic.
It was fantastic.
Yeah, no, capitalist agenda has skills.
He's got mad skills.
Mad skills.
And he's got, yeah, he's got the little
tag with this new media on the earphones.
Idiotic.
It was.
Well, ever since Tim pooled, you know, the
five million dollars came out and he thought
that it was because he was that good.
He just had to make fun of it.

(02:07:18):
I mean, remember the Russian money?
Oh, yeah.
Who can you forget?
Yeah.
Hmm.
Anyway, we want to thank everybody.
We always thank everybody who supports us with
fifty dollars or above at this moment in
the show, which is now known as the
pre stable coin segments.
We will be thanking our executive and associate
executive producers.

(02:07:38):
Very simple system.
You support us with two hundred dollars or
more for a show.
You get an official Hollywood credit that can
be used anywhere.
These credits are recognized, including IMDB.
You have to do it for yourself, but
you will be able to open up with
that credit.
You get an associate executive producer credit and
we read your note.
Three hundred dollars or above.
An executive producer credit credit coveted.
Good for a lifetime.

(02:07:59):
Anywhere that these credits are honored and recognized.
And we will read your note as well
with your executive producer credit.
And we kick it off with our anonymous
black sheep from Maryville, Tennessee.
Six hundred and ten dollars and anonymous black
sheep who I know the anonymous black sheep
sent me a note, actually.

(02:08:20):
And this is it.
Thank you for the awesome content.
I've emailed Adam off and on.
Adam, I'm a recent Christian and do a
daily journal.
The company is called Daily.
The company is called Daily Kairos.
K-A-I-R-O-S.
Excellent product.
I recommend.
I'm a military contractor that embeds with Army
and Marine Corps units.
This is the signal guy.

(02:08:41):
Signals the app.
The D.O.D. uses end to end
encryption.
I'd like to call out Michael.
Steers charts, which is who we call it
earlier as a douche bag.
I didn't realize you've been double douche bag.
I didn't even realize you've been double douche
bag.
That's bad.
That's bad.
They didn't realize that he donated inside baseball.

(02:09:02):
We've had two units move out of Iraq
and the third will be in June when
the contract is up.
We have other new sites and other in
another Middle Eastern country.
Hmm.
Another two sites in Africa.
Another site added in the Pacific.
Unlike allegedly Pete Hegseth, there's no operational security
being divulged.
FYI, I was on a green suit deployment

(02:09:23):
with JSOC when our boys smoked the Wagner
guys in Syria.
This is the level of producer we are.
I just love that.
We smoked the Wagner guys in Syria.
This is what I'm talking about.
This is why we are the best podcast
in the universe.
And he says, Jingles, you might die.

(02:09:47):
Love you both.
Jesus loves us all.
You might die.
Yeah, if you come across the anonymous black
sheep, you might die.
All right.
That's true.
Oh, I'm sorry.
And I have the classic, that's true.
That's true.
I actually loaded it up.
There you go.
Scott Horton's up.
He's in Malibu, California.
Who is this Scott Horton?

(02:10:08):
Never heard of that guy.
Never heard of Scott Horton.
550-50.
Hello, John Z, Adam, and the whole Gitmo
Nation.
This is the other Scott Horton.
Ah, there it is.
I made it out to Leo Bravo's meetup
this weekend.
What a great turnout and what fun people.
I'm donating 550-50 to finish up my

(02:10:29):
nighting.
I needed 33 cents to complete to 1
,000.
Wow.
And wanted to add Commodore 2.
I haven't thought of a good name yet,
so that will be coming soon with my
accounting.
I want to call out, I think he's
on the list anyway for the Commodore ship.
He is on the list for Commodore ship,

(02:10:50):
yep.
And there's a couple of stragglers, by the
way, that are already, there's issues with their
Commodore ship, but they'll get it next show.
I wanted to call out the Pineapple Princess
and Dano as douchebags.
Dario.
Oh.
Not even close to Dano.
Well, if you look at it from where

(02:11:11):
I'm sitting, about a mile away from the
monitor, it looks like Dano.
Get closer, Pineapple Princess.
Douchebag.
And Dario, formerly known as Dano.
Douchebag.
And let Tyrone know that he still has
the stench of douchebaggery wafting from him.
Douchebag.
Thank you, John and Adam, for keeping so

(02:11:34):
many of us sane and helping us to
see through the media slash propaganda BS.
I'd like Jobs, Goat Karma, and Her Head
is Gone, and LG Boomshakalaka.
And Her Head is Gone.
Boomshakalaka.
Boomshakalaka.
Jobs, Jobs, Jobs, and Jobs.
Let's vote for Jobs.

(02:11:55):
Yeah!
Karma.
Austin Carr is next.
He's in Miami Springs, Florida, 533.33. Love
those 33s.
It's a switcheroo.
ITM Jen, since I've already spent many, many
thousands so my daughter could become a Vanderbilt
University Commodore graduate, I thought, what the heck?

(02:12:15):
Well, another 533.33 would be a bargain,
so she could also become a no-agenda
Commodore.
Please dub Abby Paulson as Commodore of the
Human Resource Producers.
So now do I put...
I'll just do Abby Paulson.
I'll put the whole thing in there.
Make it official.
Okay.
We don't want to get those switcheroos wrong.

(02:12:38):
Baby number three on the way.
Soon-to-be 33-year-old mom.
There you go.
Austin Carr.
P.S. Abby is also the wife of
the Coast Guard pilot who last year gave
an in-the-morning shout-out during his
M5M interview after a Gulf of America hurricane
rescue.
Yes, I remember.
I believe such a free publicity donation for
the no-agenda show is worthy of an
honorary no-agenda Commodore ship.

(02:12:59):
Hmm.
It's your duty.
It's your duty.
This is not a...
Exactly.
It's your duty.
It's your duty.
All right.
Thank you very much.
The switcheroo has been made.
Austin to Abby.
Sir Marcus in Egan, Minnesota.
By 1538.

(02:13:20):
Guys, this is Sir Marcus of Gerkeland.
Gerkeland.
Pickle Land, maybe?
I don't know.
Gerkeland, yeah.
My sweet stepdaughter, Blair, nicknamed me Commodore years
ago due to driving boats on our Minnesota

(02:13:43):
lakes.
This is the land of 10,000 lakes.
So I thought I'd better make it official.
So how about Mark Commodore of Pro Wing
County.
Thanks.
Sounds good to me.
Sir Milkman comes in next from Evington, Virginia.
$500.
And he just says, Sir Milkman of Evington,
Barron.

(02:14:03):
All right.
Zedock Brown III in Pukalani, Hawaii.
Pukalani.
Pukalani, Hawaii.
500.
ITM Gents had to get in under the
wire for Commodore.
Mahalo for all you do.
Mahalo for you.
Wow.
We have three with no note here.

(02:14:26):
So that will be three double-up karmas.
The first for SDG in Oakland, California.
$500.
And a double-up karma for you.
You've got karma.
I might as well do the other two.
Yeah, might as well.
Brock Reinhold, Fort Saskatchewan, Alberta, Canada.
$500.
Double-up karma for you.

(02:14:47):
You've got karma.
And John Tucker from Omaha, Nebraska.
$500.
And a double-up karma for you.
You've got karma.
Laurens de Kooster.
I'm guessing.
Laurens de Kooster.

(02:15:08):
De Kooster in Belgium.
Ittigem.
$350.
93.
ITM John and Adam keep up the great
work.
No jingles, no karma.
Greetings from Belgium.
Ittigem.
And he's got some something here.
Met vriendelijke groeten.
Loves and kisses.

(02:15:28):
I hope this note finds you well.
I hope this note finds you well.
SirDibsOnLiving, North Providence, Rhode Island.
That's where my mom is from.
$333.33. And SirDibs says, ITM John and
Adam, no jingles, no karma.
SirDibsOnLiving, thank you very much.
Yeah, and you got the next one, too,
for obvious reasons.
In the morning, John and Adam says, Andrew

(02:15:50):
Dechter.
And greetings to all Gitmo Nation from Northern
Wildcat Territory, FEMA Region No.
4, a.k.a. Northern Kentucky.
I come to you with heavy heart.
My 50-year-old wife, Angel, was diagnosed
with stage 4 kidney cancer in September of
2022.
She lost the kidney, underwent immunotherapy, and several
other courses of treatment, but the cancer still

(02:16:10):
spread.
Cancer sucks, and cancer that doesn't respond to
treatment sucks even more.
After learning the cancer spread to her brain,
she finally had enough and elected for home
hospice in March.
She is finally resting comfortably and seems to
be pain-free.
She is in her final days, and her
passing is imminent.
She was a fifth-grade teacher and was
one of the best in Boone County, Kentucky.

(02:16:31):
She had zero transitions in her class over
the years.
Angel will be sorely missed, but my three
kids and I will carry on her legacy.
Angel was not a listener of No Agenda,
but she tolerated my zeal for it and
didn't complain about my No Agenda coffee mugs,
stickers, and hats.
I wish to honor her tolerance by making
her an executive producer for the May Day
show, 1760.

(02:16:52):
Please accept this treasure of 333.33 for
show 1760 in her name.
I request massive amounts of No Agenda health
karma for my beautiful wife in her final
days.
She needs it.
F-cancer, please.
Oh, I'm sorry to hear that.
Of course.
And she's in our prayers, mine for sure.

(02:17:15):
You've got karma.
Vert Fuller in Batavia, New York, $300, and
he sent in a check with a note,
which I will read, to DNC, $300.
Ever had it in his hand written in
a kind of a sloppy style.

(02:17:39):
Even when you take the plug out, you
two are electrifying.
How did I ever make it before COVID
when I didn't know about your podcast?
You are like a lost and found, I

(02:17:59):
guess.
Yeah, you're like lost and found, referring to
a place where you go pick lost and
found stuff up.
I guess.
I would like to give this check donation
to making my son Andy a closer to
being a knight.
Okay, I don't know if he's on the
list or not.
Karma for my birthday on the 29th.

(02:18:21):
Is that on the list?
I don't know.
I think it is.
I'll check.
Let me see.
On the list, along with Willie Nelson.
Oh.
And then he says, too long a note.
When it's not really long at all, it's
just hard to read.
And by the way, that should be two
T-W-O's.
Sir, short for nothing.

(02:18:43):
Okay.
That's it?
Yeah, that's it.
Wirt Fuller, hold on a second.
Yeah, he's on there.
Rick W.
Cable is in Modesta, California.
$300, our last executive producer for this show.
Old Knight, with first $300 donation on 9

(02:19:04):
-30-2012, promoted my old site, finditclassifieds.com.
Now, podgrabber.com, where no agenda is featured
and livestream hubs.
Podgrabber.com slash live slash no agenda.
All right.
Podgrabber.com, go check it out.
Thank you very much, Rich, for featuring us
and for supporting us.

(02:19:26):
That's nice.
Rich Geisler in San Diego, California, 250.
First associate executive producer, and he says, keep
it up, fellas.
Rich.
Associate executive producership for Brandon Foster from Dawson
Creek in BC.
British Columbia.
My donation of 247.87 USD is the

(02:19:47):
equivalent to 333 Canadian plus fees.
Okay, you get moved up.
You get upgraded.
Make sure we upgrade you there.
For my first executive producer credit, and for
premium electrical service in BC and Alberta Peace
regions, reach out to Deepwoods Electrical and Controls.

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Standby generator, service upgrades, and more, deepwoodselectric.com.
Reach out with an in the morning for
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That's the angel number of your electrical project.
Canada may be down, but we're not dead
yet.
Best regards, Brandon Foster, Sir Foster of the
Deepwoods Electrons, CEO of Deepwoods Electrical and Controls

(02:20:29):
Limited.
Deepwoodselectric.com.
Nice.
Chad Finkbeiner in Highland Heights, Ohio, 222.22ROADX,
and he just simply says, thanks for the
best podcast on this side of the ice
wall.
Yak karma, please.

(02:20:49):
That's a Flat Earth reference if I've ever
heard one.
You've got karma.
Ah, there he is.
We were talking about him during the pre
-show amble.
We're down to our last bags, Eli, because
Eli the Coffee Guy comes in from Bensonville,
Illinois with 205.01 and says, Adam, you're
right.
America is hooked on cheap Chinese goods.

(02:21:11):
By the way, I see the president just
made a comment this morning about the tariffs.
He said, and I'm paraphrasing, well, maybe the
kids will just have two dolls instead of
30.
Okay.
We need to move our supply chain to
Central and South America to build up the
nations in our neighborhood.
It may even help with the immigration issue.
We just launched T-shirts on our website.

(02:21:33):
I'm happy to say they are finally crafted
right here in our own hemisphere in the
nation of Honduras.
They make great shirts and grow great coffee.
So visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use code ITM20
for 20% off your order and stay
caffeinated, says Eli the Coffee Guy.
Actually, Honduras coffee is good.
Yes.

(02:21:53):
Linda Lou Patkins up.
She's in Lakewood, Colorado, 200 bucks, and she
wants Jobs Karma and says, for a faster,
more effective job search with a resume that
gets results, go to imagemakersinc.com.
That's imagemakersinc with a K for all your
executive resume and job search needs.
And work with Linda Lou, the Duchess of
Jobs and writer of resumes.

(02:22:15):
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
Yeah!
Karma.
And I believe that is it.
No.
We have one more.
Aaron Parr, Wilmington, North Carolina.
Shout out to Matt Parr in Wilmington, North
Carolina.
They might be related.
Congrats on your hole-in-one and being

(02:22:37):
the best new dad.
Go, Wolfpack!
Oh, there you go.
I love that.
I'm sure that's either his sister or his
wife.
I'm thinking his wife.
And with that, that concludes our Executive and
Associate Executive Producers for episode 1760.
We thank all of you who've supported us
and we'll be thanking the rest of the

(02:22:57):
$50 and above donors in our second segment,
so looking forward to that.
And of course, you can go to at
any point, anytime you feel like it, and
you can set up a donation of any
amount.
We actually, we do love the numerology, so
if you've got some fun ideas, and they
always come in in the second segment, all

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kinds of new donations being made up all
the time.
It initially started with the 69-69 and
never stopped from there, so go to And
thank you again to these brand-new Executive
and Associate Executive Producers.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the
mouth.

(02:23:52):
Thank you all very much.
Wonderful.
Hey, John, I've got some stablecoin stuff I
want to share with you.
Oh, I'm all ears.
So there is a bill in Congress right
now.
It is the stablecoin bill.
We'll talk about that in a minute, but
throughout the past couple of weeks, I've been
talking about things like the Mar-a-Lago

(02:24:13):
Accords, understanding the strong dollar versus the weak
dollar, what is President Trump trying to do,
and the only thing I really had known
or knew up until recently about stablecoin is
the main stablecoin that is in consideration for
use by the U.S. government, specifically the
Treasury, and I presume by osmosis, the Federal

(02:24:35):
Reserve, is Tether.
And all you need to know about that
is a stablecoin is pegged to a dollar.
One stablecoin is one dollar, and it is
backed by U.S. Treasury.
So this company, Tether, they only have 40
people working there.
All they're doing is they're buying massive amounts

(02:24:58):
of Treasury's, short-term Treasury, so T-bills,
American debt, and they're making hundreds of millions
of dollars based upon the interest rate, and
for every single dollar they buy in Treasury,
they make a stablecoin.
So it's really a way to make more
U.S. dollars of the digital kind, and

(02:25:19):
I've learned a lot about this, and we're
going to start with Planet Money, so it's
kind of a mainstream show from NPR, and
it has a little bit of talk about
stablecoin and the Mar-a-Lago Accords.
Then there's what we've dubbed the weak dollar
school.
Essentially because people around the world use the
dollar so much, that pushes up the dollar's

(02:25:39):
value and actually hurts American exporters.
So the weak dollar school wants to see
the American dollar devalued.
This school of thought is led by the
chair of the Council of Economic Advisors, a
guy named Stephen Myron.
More than half the world's trade is done
in dollars, even when neither country trading is
the U.S. Simon boils the weak dollar

(02:26:00):
school down to this.
The cost for America in doing this is
that you have a dollar that has been
distorted.
In his view, basically this means overvalued, and
that has held back American exporters.
A strong dollar means that American consumers can
afford to buy more stuff from overseas, and
so American factories find it harder to compete

(02:26:21):
with these cheap imports.
And so there's different ways that other countries
can begin to address this problem.
They could basically agree to buy more American
products.
They could invest more in America.
One solution that he expressed, which I think
is a little bit tongue-in-cheek, is
that they could just send checks directly to

(02:26:42):
the U.S. Treasury to basically pay them
a fee for services.
Or alternatively, America could impose tariffs.
The big idea in Stephen Myron's paper is
that leaders of countries from around the world
would descend on South Florida, make a grand
deal with President Trump to help weaken the
dollar, and this would be called the Mar

(02:27:03):
-a-Lago Accord.
You can see how it's something that appeals
to President Trump.
It kind of intellectualizes his instinctual view that
America has been wronged.
Okay.
So the problem we have in America is
because everybody wants our dollars, everybody uses our
dollars, the dollar is very strong against other
currencies, and therefore our products, when we want

(02:27:27):
to export them, are too expensive.
We're not like the cheap Chinese crap.
That's why I believe the temporary measure is
these tariffs.
Now, what I've learned is, and I've heard
this term so many times, euro-dollar, I
never understood what it meant.
The difference between the American dollar we have

(02:27:47):
here in America and the euro-dollar is
exactly that.
A euro-dollar is every dollar that is
in banks or in financial systems outside the
U.S., and it's a lot of money,
and this money really hurts us, particularly in
the hands of China, because they control how

(02:28:08):
strong our dollar is by how much they
use it, where they send it, how much
they buy, etc.
Here is analyst Matt Pines explaining a little
bit about the dangers of other countries holding
large quantities of dollars, in this case, euro
-dollars.
Don't be confused by the euro part.
If it's outside of America, it's a euro

(02:28:29):
-dollar.
There's flows of goods coming into the United
States and flows of dollars going overseas, and
a lot of those dollars are pouring into
China, and then China, as an entity, as
a balance sheet, is then deciding how to
deploy those dollars, and in some ways, it's
deploying them into domestic investment, in some ways,

(02:28:50):
it's deploying them into overseas investment, like Belt
and Road Initiative, but in other ways, it's
also redeploying them back into the U.S.
and other advanced financial markets into financial assets,
into our NASDAQ, into our real estate, into
our farmland.
The U.S. has watched over the past
few years how much of those dollars are
round-tripping back into the U.S., and

(02:29:13):
for certain elements of the U.S., that's
great.
That's an extra marginal dollar that's going into
NVIDIA stock, and it helps everyone's 401ks.
There's such a thing in the DoD, the
intelligence community, it's like a term of art,
like adversarial capital, and tracking adversarial capital is
a very important mission inside the United States
government, so they don't just see dollars going

(02:29:35):
back and forth, international trade and financial investment
as just a fundamentally neutral cycle of trade
and investment.
They see it as a security issue, especially
if you see some of these flows come
with invisible strings attached, or often those capital
flows have implicitly or explicitly corrupt the political
systems that they get deployed in, and they

(02:29:56):
shape, over time, the political systems in the
West.
We've seen stories in Canada and Australia, even
in the U.S., New Zealand, even Japan,
South Korea, Taiwan, a lot of these countries
that are very much at the tipping point
of where to shape strategic opinion among key
decision makers.

(02:30:18):
So, what I understand of this stablecoin bill,
which is now in Congress, is the idea
is to make all the euro dollars, everything
that's not in America, make those stablecoin, which
will be backed by U.S. Treasuries, so
they are backed by something that is supposedly
really secure and really good, and that those

(02:30:40):
dollars, because they're digital, can be completely tracked.
We know if someone's trying to buy off
politicians, and you will not be allowed to
use the U.S. dollars in America dollars
outside of the United States if you want
the dollar.
That way, you get the stablecoin, which basically
is a little piece of a U.S.
Treasury, which equals a dollar.

(02:31:02):
And so, here's Caitlin Long to explain the
stablecoin bill.
The stablecoin bill is going to create, for
the first time, an endorsed differential between an
offshore dollar and an onshore dollar.
The Fed, and particularly because of the control
of the European banks on the euro-dollar
market, what is a euro-dollar?
It goes back to the 1950s when Russia
didn't want to hold, during the Cold War,

(02:31:23):
its dollars in a U.S. bank because
it was afraid they'd be confiscated.
So it got the European banks to agree
to take U.S. dollar deposits.
So there was this huge offshore market which
is actually as big, if not bigger, than
the onshore U.S. dollar market.
It is big.
And to your point, it hasn't been in
control of the Fed.
Well, the Fed is now arrested control over

(02:31:45):
interest rates.
The most important interest rate was until recently
Libor.
It's now SOFR.
And it used to be unsecured, priced in
London.
It's now secured, priced in New York.
Okay, now here comes Tether.
Tether is a company that, for all the
allegations around it related to money laundering, et

(02:32:06):
cetera, et cetera.
Now, what's fascinating to me is that Congress
is about to ensconce this by saying, okay,
you can be an offshore issuer and you
don't have to do all the same know
-your-customer and anti-money laundering rules particularly
that a bank has to do.
A bank has to do what's something called

(02:32:27):
CIP up front.
You have to, before you onboard a customer
to a bank, you have to do all
the know-your-customer and enhanced customer information
program up front.
Fintechs don't have to do that and Lord
knows an offshore company does not.
And that offshore company will be Cantor Fitzgerald,

(02:32:48):
Lutnick's company.
They're the ones that are the, they hold
all of the treasuries for this Tether stablecoin.
This thing is outrageously popular all across the
world.
I didn't even realize how big this stablecoin
is.
It's being used by shop merchants, by regular

(02:33:09):
people everywhere because their own currency is so
unstable.
They prefer to use the Tether stablecoin and
they can easily pay with it.
They're already doing it.
It's just on your phone.
It's back and forth.
And here's a quick clip about how big
stablecoin, particularly Tether, really is.
Tether is pushing the U.S. dollar out

(02:33:29):
into emerging markets down to the communities that
nobody has banked before because nobody could figure
out how to bank them.
And those communities banked them profitably.
And those communities, Tether did, hats off to
them for doing that.
Those communities have access to the U.S.
dollar for the first time.
And in most of those emerging markets, they

(02:33:51):
would much rather have a U.S. dollar
than their own local currency.
And Tether has built this distribution channel and
there is nobody competing with them.
And they are pushing the U.S. dollar
out into the distribution channel and they're recycling
those tiny amounts of money from working class
and emerging markets.
And I think they have 400 million users.
It's a stunning number of users.

(02:34:11):
They're the biggest financial company in the world
right now and just keep getting bigger.
And they are recycling all of those flows
back into the U.S. treasury market.
What is that doing?
Because those are not going to be panic
sellers.
What is that doing?
That is increasing the resilience of the U
.S. treasury market.
And that is exactly the point.
And making the dollar strong as a currency

(02:34:34):
and usable outside the U.S. with the
euro dollar.
And we can then control our own interest
rate because LIBOR, the London Interbank Offered Rate,
which was the standard, if you've ever looked
at your car statement or your mortgage, it'll
say, you know, on an adjustable rate, it'll

(02:34:56):
say, we offer you this money at LIBOR
plus 1% or plus 2%.
We remember there was a big scandal with
LIBOR in 2008.
LIBOR was already set to be replaced and
killed off by something called SOFR, the Secured
Overnight Financing Rate from the Federal Reserve Bank

(02:35:17):
of New York.
And so this is Bloomberg seven years ago.
This is how long this is in the
making, talking about this new way to set
interest rates, not by British banks and JP
Morgan, they were part of that, who were
just doing willy-nilly whatever they wanted, which
kept us not in control of interest rates
in America.
They were already talking about this SOFR.

(02:35:39):
Ed, let's start first with the SOFR situation,
which I have to confess, I'm not an
expert on this, but it's sort of oopsie.
Nobody is, David.
Isn't that what you say?
Oopsie.
So the Fed comes out with this new
alternative to LIBOR, and this is going to
be, they're trying to compete with some other
alternatives over in Europe to say, this is
the way you should peg your interest rates.
And then they discover, oh, we included some
transactions we were supposed to be including.

(02:36:00):
I call it SOFR.
I thought that sounded better.
I've heard SOFR, I've heard SOFR, I've heard
SOFR.
So far, so bad.
So it's kind of a case of better
the devil you know.
Look, LIBOR, as we know, was not perfect.
In fact, it was far from perfect.
But this is, as you say, the alternative,
and it's already gone wrong.
Two weeks in and it's already gone wrong.
So what's happened here is essentially the Fed

(02:36:22):
have come out and they've said some forward
settling overnight treasury repo transactions were included where
they shouldn't have been included.
So all of the data for that two
week period is botched.
Now they said they're not going to republish
it, but they are going to publish alongside
it, sort of theoretical data of what it
would look like if you stripped out those
transactions.
So it is a bit of a mess.
And I think the real challenge is this.

(02:36:42):
A lot of people obviously still use LIBOR
as the benchmark.
That's going to end in 2021, because the
SCA and the UK have said that at
that point it will disappear.
How do you get people to migrate across
to something if it shows even at this
sort of very early stage that it's unreliable?
This thing needs to be absolutely rock solid
if it's going to convince people to migrate
across.
It needs the derivative projects, which supposedly those

(02:37:04):
products are coming.
So this thing has migrated.
As of March 31st, 2025, the last LIBOR
contracts, the last derivatives were finally all settled,
taken care of.
And now SOFR is the new interest rate
setting standard for interest rates, which is completely

(02:37:24):
in control now of the Federal Reserve Bank
of New York.
And this timing I find interesting because on
April 2nd, he said he wanted to do
on the 1st, but it came on the
2nd.
President Trump talked about, My fellow Americans, this
is liberation day.
And maybe it was under the guise of
the tariffs, but I think it was really

(02:37:45):
about this interest rate that is now being
set by us.
We're in control of it and we're leaving
the stable coin as the ghetto dollar over
there for the Euro dollar and they can
do whatever they want.
It's all backed by us.
And this stable coin has a lot of
properties that make it very interesting, not just
overseas, but internally as well.

(02:38:06):
And by the way, Tether created the killer
use case, which is for the US dollar.
And a lot of people look at it
and say, why do you need a blockchain
for that?
That's an inefficient database.
Yes, of course, it's an inefficient database.
But what were they able to do?
Create incredible network effects by having 400 million
users globally.
That's bigger than the United States.
Incredible network effects.

(02:38:27):
That's what we're tapping into.
What are the greenfields?
The biggest one is putting that into the
regulated banking industry.
Everybody right now is forced into FedWire, ACH,
and a little bit of FedNow, but that
was such a controlled closed system that it
hasn't really taken off.
FedWire and ACH?
Hell, stable coins are faster, cheaper, more auditable,

(02:38:50):
more programmable, safer from an IT security perspective,
I would argue, for a whole host of
reasons.
This is a game changer to push that
into the greenfield of the traditional banking system.
So to wrap it up, I think the
stable coin gambit is to keep the US
dollar as the strongest, most secure, backed by

(02:39:12):
US Treasury's dollar everywhere in the world, but
we, through SOFR, will control our own interest
rates.
It's a big, big, long game gamble.
And if Trump can pull it off, I
don't know if it's going to be good
or not, but it's definitely going to change
the way finance works throughout the world.

(02:39:32):
And that's all I know for now.
How does this benefit bankers?
I believe that bankers, part of the SBA
Rule 12, that bankers can now issue their
own version of stable coin.
And so they can do whatever they want.

(02:39:57):
They like buying Treasuries, so I'll buy a
Treasury, I can issue a stable coin.
And I can issue it domestically, I can
issue it internationally.
I think that's where they come into play.
How would this differ from the olden days
when the banks used to actually print their
own money?
Well, the difference is, at that point, they

(02:40:18):
had to have gold to back their own
money.
And now you have to have Treasuries, which
is probably just as wonky.
That's why I'm not sure it's a great
idea.
I'm not saying it's a great idea.
I think it's what they're trying to do.
It just, you know, it's complicated.

(02:40:38):
I didn't even know what a euro dollar
was until yesterday.
We got a call from the government.
Shut up, Curry.
There you go.
That's my stable coin presentation.
Okay.

(02:40:59):
It wasn't as bad as I thought.
Oh, well, thank you.
That, coming from you, is a huge endorsement.
I don't know about that.
There's the government.
Do you need to talk to them?
I'm going to go pick that up, but
why don't you play the clip about the
impeachment, the partial impeachment announcement.
Okay.
Partial impeachment.
Partial.
Impeach impartial.

(02:41:19):
This is Congressman Sri Thanedar.
Donald Trump has already done real damage to
our democracy, but defying a unanimous 9-0
Supreme Court ruling?
That has to be the final straw.
It's time we impeach Donald J.
Trump.
The court said the wrongfully deported Kilmer Garcia

(02:41:41):
must be allowed to return and receive due
process.
Trump ignored it.
He ignored the Constitution.
He ignored the very checks and balances that
keep our democracy intact.
This isn't an isolated incident.
It's part of a dangerous, deliberate pattern.
That's why today I introduced a resolution to

(02:42:05):
impeach Donald J.
Trump, outlining seven articles of impeachment.
Article one, obstruction of justice and abuse of
executive power.
From denying due process to unlawful deportations, Trump

(02:42:25):
defied court orders.
Is this a call you got earlier today?
Is this a robocall?
The call I got was the arborist canceling.
Oh, no.
I've been waiting months for this.
Well, you and me both.
Why would the arborist...
So, John has a branch which has been

(02:42:49):
squeaking against his window for months.
Sometimes I can hear it if it's windy
on the show, but I almost always hear
it after the show when I turn all
the noise gates off.
I'm like, oh, man, that thing must be
driving you nuts.
Well, it's only when you have a southerly
breeze.
So, anyway, so that's the guy.

(02:43:09):
He's a screwball-looking character.
I don't even know what he's thinking.
He's got a wig on, and he's like...
He really seriously should check this out.
And he went on and on.
He's got about eight points.
And it's, of course, going to go nowhere,
but it's making a big scene, and he
sounds like a moron.
Yeah, I would say so.
But that's big news, big news.

(02:43:29):
Big news, big news, yeah.
Articles of impeachment.
Finally, someone did it.
Yeah, I was waiting for Al Green, but
he didn't do it yet.
No.
Okay, TikTok.
Yay.
They're both short.
They're both under a minute.
Okay.
The dating app girl.
Dating app girl.

(02:43:49):
So, I'm scrolling the dating apps earlier, and
for the first 20 swipes, it's conservative, moderate,
conservative, moderate, apolitical, nothing.
Conservative, conservative, conservative, conservative, conservative,
conservative, moderate.
And to me, conservative, moderate, and apolitical, and
nothing is all the same thing.
You all are MAGA.
So, immediately, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no.
Took me 20 swipes to finally find a

(02:44:11):
liberal.
I'm like, gee, what the fuck is going
on?
Why is everybody MAGA?
It's not that everybody's MAGA.
It's the male loneliness epidemic.
It's because nobody wants to date them.
They don't make good partners.
That's why there's so many single ones out
there.

(02:44:32):
All the liberals are taken, not all of
them.
Obviously, there's some out there.
But I'd rather have no dates than ever
date a MAGA ever fucking again.
So I will scroll until my fingers fall
off until I can find the perfect liberal.
Why do they always have to cuss all
the time?
This cussing is unbelievable.
It's getting annoying.

(02:44:53):
It's very annoying, and there's nothing you can
do about it.
They won't stop it.
No, they won't.
Here's another woman.
This one here is complaining about her time
blindness.
Oh, time blindness.
Which is my favorite topic.
I'm time blind.
That's why I'm late.
We went through this several times in the
past couple of years.

(02:45:14):
So I just got yelled at for asking
a very reasonable question.
So I'm planning to go somewhere, and I
just wanted to know, are there accommodations for
people who struggle with time blindness and being
on time?
And then the person I was with interrupted
and acted like I was asking something else.
And then when we were done, they actually
started yelling at me and saying that accommodations
for time blindness doesn't exist.

(02:45:36):
And if you struggle with being on time,
you'll never be able to get a job,
provided you're trying your absolute best to be
there.
And then they're like, your stupid generation wants
to destroy the workplace.
And yeah, I think that a culture where
workers are just cut off because they struggle
with being on time when there's other solutions
that we can look to, I think that
just anybody who thinks it's okay to just

(02:45:57):
treat people like that, yeah, that culture needs
to be dismantled.
And then I asked that person, how can
you feel good about yourself upholding this kind
of system?
And then to think, I'm entitled.
No, if people think it's okay to treat
others like this, that's entitlement.
Oh, brother.
I like the way she reversed the reverse

(02:46:17):
roles there.
You're entitled because you're on time.
Stop it.
This is not healthy.
I'm worried about you.
You should not be watching too much of
this.
No, this is good stuff.
Everybody loves it.
It's all engagement farming.
I don't believe any of these people is
being honest.
Not a single one.
You think they're real.

(02:46:37):
I think they're all phony.
I think most of them are real.
There's a couple of phonies, but they're pretty
obvious when you see them.
Let's play this.
This is a, since you played that thing
about the stable coin, let's play this clip.
This is Timu versus France.
Oh, Timu.
The trade war between the US and China
has also affected Europe.
Several European countries report a surge in dumped

(02:46:58):
Chinese products on their market.
Last year, 1.5 billion parcels, mostly from
China, entered France, averaging just around $10 each.
Authorities are concerned with this trend, which poses
a threat not only to local producers, but
also to consumers.
On Tuesday, four French ministers unveiled a plan
to tackle the flood of low-cost parcels

(02:47:19):
from China.
To protect consumers, the government will triple inspections
this year, checking product safety, labeling, and environmental
claims.
They're also looking to the EU to end
customs duty exemption for parcels under $170 to
protect local businesses.
Yann Rivoy-Allant is president of the French
Women's Prêt-à-Porter Federation.

(02:47:39):
Wait a minute.
Is France putting something equal to tariffs in
place against China?
Is that what I'm hearing?
That's kind of what you're hearing, but the
number I thought was interesting, that in France
they're getting 1.5 billion packages of cheap
Chinese crap.
Cheap Chinese crap.
Nice.
He says the influx of Chinese products has

(02:48:02):
led to around 10,000 job losses over
the past two years and the closure of
several fashion brands.
He also says French fashion brands are unable
to compete.
Every week, brands send me copies of counterfeit
products made in China.
First, our designs are being stolen.
Second, the employees of Shane or Temu are

(02:48:22):
being exploited.
They're paid a pittance and forced to work
from 75 to over 100 hours a week,
with barely one day off a month.
This is clearly unacceptable.
They also commit tax fraud by declaring underreported
sales figures.
According to the government, over 90% of
these products are unsafe for consumers.
However, Rivoy-Allant says the new measures fall

(02:48:44):
far short and should be aligned with the
stronger U.S. actions against such platforms.
It's totally ridiculous compared to what the United
States is doing with $100 on each of
these packages.
So, we're in a situation where we know
that over 90% of products are dangerous
for the French, dangerous for consumers, for our

(02:49:06):
jobs, and for the planet.
And yet, we're putting in place a small
measure with barely 10% tax potential.
It's really amazing, the junk, the cheap junk
we have from China.
This microphone I'm using right now, cheap junk
from China.
This Yeti cup, American Yeti, Texas company, made
in China.
This bell, China.

(02:49:26):
This whistle, China.
My Light Phone 3, China.
It's all from China.
And I look at the stuff and I
go, do I really need all this stuff?
You know, do I really need it?
My guns are from, my guns are not
from China.
My guns are not from China.
Yet.

(02:49:48):
Yet.
We probably need to just have this story
out for a moment because it's not really
a big topic.
You know, there was a pretty bad attack
on tourists there.
You know, Pakistan and India heating up.
And here's the latest from Pakistan.
We start with the dispute between India and
Pakistan following a deadly attack in Indian-administered

(02:50:10):
Kashmir, which left 26 people dead last week.
The Indian Prime Minister Mahendra Modi has been
holding high-level talks with his cabinet in
response to the attack, which it blames on
Pakistan, a claim repeatedly denied by Islamabad.
Pakistan's information minister says his country has credible
intelligence that India is planning to attack.

(02:50:31):
Pakistan openheartedly offered a credible, transparent and independent
investigation by a neutral commission of experts to
ascertain the truth.
Unfortunately, rather than pursuing the path of reason,
India has apparently decided to tread the dangerous
path of irrationality and confrontation, which will have

(02:50:55):
catastrophic consequences for the complete region and beyond.
World leaders have expressed deep concern and urged
restraint by the uneasy neighbours who have fought
several wars and who both have nuclear weapons.
Man, Led Zeppelin did songs about Kashmir.
Can these guys not just settle it finally?
What is so special?

(02:51:17):
Seems unlikely.
What is so special about the Kashmir region?
What is it?
What do they care?
Everybody thinks it's a fabulous place and both
sides think it's theirs.
They own it.
Well, what's so fabulous about it?
I don't know.
I've never been there.
Does it have a beach?
No?
It used to be fabulous.
I don't know why they can't get it
over.
Well, we have Pakistanis and Indians in our

(02:51:40):
own nation.
The explanation will be biased in both.
We won't find out anything.
Well, I'll take bias over nothing.
Over this report.
They're going to strike us.
Why?

(02:52:00):
We don't know why.
You're right.
They've been bitching.
This has been going on forever.
For decades.
I have a real news clip if you
want to play real news jingle.
Goodness gracious.
I know.
We haven't done this for a year.
A year.
Where is it?
Oh, wait.
It's under...
I have the real news clip somewhere.

(02:52:21):
And now, back to real news.
Okay.
Time for real news.
What do you have?
So, the sports ball people are talking...
Everyone's talking and ridiculing this guy including Megan.
Kelly?
Yes.
Yeah.
And this is Bill Belichick who's like...
I don't know.
He's 60, 70.
He's like 72, I think.

(02:52:41):
And he's got a 24-year-old girlfriend.
Go right on.
Go Bill.
What a lot of people say.
And so, he was interviewed by CBS morning
and then they had to clip some of
her in there because she was being annoying

(02:53:02):
at the interview.
She was butting in a lot.
And then he came back with a comment
about it.
And then CBS came back with a comment.
And it went back and forth.
But here's the Megan Kelly, this Belichick.
This is the Megan Kelly report on it.
And she's, of course, you know...
She's Megan.
She's horrible.
She's Megan.
She's Megan.
Yes.
So, this guy, Bill Belichick, has been in

(02:53:22):
the news lately because his girlfriend, I think,
is 50 years, 47 to 50 years...
Oh, no!
...difference between Belichick and...
Is she mad about that?
Is that the premise?
She's mad about the age difference with the
chick?
No, she doesn't express this, but you know
she is.
Okay.
...young gal pal.
So, she shows up at these black tie
events with him wearing nothing.
She's basically wearing, like, a bikini.

(02:53:44):
And he's wearing a normal man's clothing.
Shocking!
And it looks weird.
Like, okay, whatever.
I guess I'm not...
Who am I to judge?
But I'm judging.
I won't lie.
It's weird.
And I'm pretty sure she is with him
because he's very famous and probably has a
lot of money and gets her access to
cool things.
That's my guess.
What?

(02:54:04):
Gambling?
I'm just going to say it.
But anyway, he gives this interview and now
it's starting to look much more like a
Jill Biden situation.
That's all I could think of, you guys.
She's like Dr. Jill on the sidelines calling
all the shots and trying to decide what
he can answer and what he can't in
this interview.
And what we learned today, I'll show you

(02:54:24):
the clip, but what we learned today was
that it was far worse than CBS This
Morning, which is like a nice program.
They try to do nice stories.
It would even air.
The reason, reportedly, that they chose to air
this one interruption of hers is because it
was far worse than this.
She was trying to dominate behind the scenes
and they felt it was okay to include

(02:54:46):
one of her interruptions just to give the
audience, to be transparent, that they had this
monster on screen left who was completely trying
to control him.
And it was to the point where they
didn't feel like it would have journalistic integrity
if they didn't show at least some of
it.
Watch this.
The other change for Belichick is 24-year
-old Jordan Hudson, his creative muse, as he

(02:55:10):
writes in his book.
Jordan was a constant presence during our interview.
You have Jordan right over there.
Everybody in the world seems to be following
this relationship.
They've got an opinion about your private life.
It's got nothing to do with them, but
they're invested in it.
How do you deal with that?
I've never been too worried about what everybody

(02:55:31):
else thinks.
I just try to do what I feel
like is best for me and what's right.
How did you guys meet?
I'm not talking about this.
No?
It's a topic neither one of them is
comfortable commenting on.
What?
And it went on.
The portion I talked to you about, it
went on and on to where it was
very cringy.

(02:55:52):
You were like, oh, God.
Oh, Megan, how deep you have sunk.
Megan.
Why is she doing this?
She's the woman who was like the big
political journalist, lawyer, and all she can do
is show business stuff.
I'm sure it's great.
Well, we know the answer.
It's great for downloads.

(02:56:13):
It's great for views.
It's numbers.
This is why value for value is a
much better way to do it.
You don't need numbers to survive.
You don't need to deal with these people
who send us AI analysis of the show
being anti-advertiser.

(02:56:44):
And to prove that, we are going to
thank our donors, $50 and above.
Yeah, we did pretty well today.
So that was nice.
That was nice.
Very nice.
Hopefully we got the big show coming up
on Sunday.
The Cinco de Mayo special.
Woo, everybody.
Yeah, that's right.
It is the big Cinco de Mayo.
Marjorie Santelli starts us off.
She's in Kirtland, Ohio.

(02:57:06):
One, two, three, four, five.
The Ash in Texas in Flower Mound.
One, two, one, two, one.
And that's an El DeBarge donation.
Thank you.
One person got my joke.
Thank you.
It's appreciated.
Yes, yeah.
It's appreciated.
Okay, well, she's on the ball.

(02:57:28):
Connie Wolles-Lusink and Heinen Noord, North Heinen,
Netherlands, 120, 120.
And she got a long note there.
She's a big fan of yours.
Yes, I can see.
She's just a note for you.
You can read it to yourself.
She says eggs are expensive.

(02:57:50):
Over there.
Oh, this is a two.
Oh, she says our eggs are 36 euro
cents per egg.
Therefore, I give you two dozen eggs donation.
That's a 12-12.
One, two, one, two.
I like it.
The eggs donation.
Eggs donation.
Why not?
Two dozen eggs.
So Jay has eggs.
Uh-huh.

(02:58:11):
And so she brought me some because I
use a raw egg in my morning no
agenda drink.
Yes, we have discussed this.
It was a tip, tipoftheday.net.
And she's got a chicken there.
And it's almost a tip of the day.
It's a buff Orpington, which is a killer
beautiful chicken.
We used to have them up north.
The buff.
And it used to be called Buffy.

(02:58:31):
It's a beautiful red chicken.
And huge.
And it produces the chicken.
I've never seen home chickens.
Usually don't do this.
Produces jumbo eggs.
Jumbo.
How big are they?
They're huge.
They're huge.
It's a big giant egg.
She says that the chicken makes a squawk
every time she lays one.

(02:58:55):
No doubt.
Poor, poor chicken.
Onward, sir.
By his grace.
Get buff Orpingtons.
Sir, by his grace, in Jacksonville, Florida, 1
-11-22.
And he's also mentioned Southeastern Turf Grass Supply.
For all your grass agronomic needs.

(02:59:17):
By the way, I know, sir, by his
grace.
By his grace.
And he's so worried about the tariffs.
He keeps sending me articles like, he's going
to screw it up.
He's going to screw it up.
He's going to screw up.
He's going to...
I have to close my business.
He's going to screw up.
Trump's no good.
Wait, is he getting his turf from China?
No, I think his pesticides, herbicides, all that
stuff.
Yeah, he definitely gets stuff from China.

(02:59:44):
Sir, KC9YJM7310535.
He wants a jobs karma at the end,
if you don't mind.
Paul Summers in Bath, Pennsylvania, 100.
Jennifer Rain in Snoqualmie, Washington, 100.
Sir F.A. Ann Beck in Shiftwood Forest,

(03:00:07):
somewhere in the United States, 100.
Dame Mellabation.
Mellabation?
Mettabation.
No, Mellabation.
Mellabation, okay.
In Colorado Springs, 100.
Kevin McLaughlin's up.
DeConco, North Carolina, is the Archduke of Luna,
lover of America and boobs.

(03:00:28):
8008, the boob donation.
Rick LaBanca in Hope, Rhode Island, 73, 73.
That's a ham radio donation.
And heaven forbid, we got another one.
Noble Anderson in Montgomery, Alabama, 73, 73, with
a happy birthday to me.
This is a while ago.
I guess it's my 73rd birthday donation.

(03:00:48):
It's also 73s.
Better late than never.
Brandon Locklear in Sugar Hill, Georgia, 73, 73,
with his callsign K4QOL, 73.
That's a ham donation, 73s.
Sir Chris Abraham in Arlington, Virginia, 73, 73.
Sir Stickwater, 73, 40.

(03:01:09):
Slickwater.
You need a different font.
Sir Slickwater.
There's got to be a default font.
Oh, please.
You've threatened to do this for years.
I don't do any.
Let's face it, I'm a big talker, no
action.
Dame Dana Carroll in Laughlin, Nevada, 72, 27.
Jorge Alvarez in Ponte Verde Beach, Vedra Beach,

(03:01:30):
71, 71.
Commodore 64 in Tucker, Georgia, which is 64,
but he has the extra fee, 65, 10.
Craig Kohler in Evansville, Indiana.
He's got 6502, my favorite donation for people
who know what a chip is.
Jacob Alley in Wichita, Kansas, 63, 31.
Hold on.

(03:01:50):
Jacob says he's been on a subscription plan
but never got a formal de-douching, so
we'll do that now.
You've been de-douched.
There you go.
Jamie Buell in Vista, California, 606, small boobs.
And Baronette Tess Salty in Manchester, New Hampshire,
58, 56, which is 55, 55 plus the
fee.
By the way, when you send a check

(03:02:11):
in, the fee is 15 cents.
That's right.
Brian P.
Bellin in Asbury, New Jersey, 58, 56.
Sad puppy donation, that's what that is.
Okay.
What do we have here?
Whoops, I just overscrolled.
Marnix, Marnix Kart in Den Haag, Netherlands, 55,

(03:02:36):
55.
Eric Fleenor in Palmyra, Michigan, 55, 55.
Anonymous, 55.
Surprise night, surprise night of astonishment in Yukon,
Oklahoma, 54, 44.
Tom Ross in Sylmar, California, 53, 28.

(03:03:00):
Now, he's got something.
He likes the newsletter.
He likes Tip of the Day.
He likes the jokes, but he says less
bickering.
It's only 65% funny.
No, that's a passing grade on the bickering,
and he sent you a copy of Dvorak's
Guide to PC Telecommunications, and he wants you
to sign it and return it.
Yes, I already communicated with him.
I will do that.

(03:03:20):
It's an instant bestseller.
Instant.
Anonymous, Oklahoma City, 52, 72.
Timothy White in Elburn, Illinois, 51, 50.
Eric Schmidt in Frankfurt, Deutschland, 51, 50.
Dame Courtney, Chicago, Chicago.

(03:03:41):
She's in Chicago, 51, 25.
ITM Mayday, Mayday.
It's a donation she can afford.
Yeah, we put that in the newsletter.
That was the 55, 1, and she put
25.
That was the Mayday.
Don't you remember?
You set this up.
Yeah, 51, 25.
That's the Mayday donation.
In fact, we have a bunch of Mayday

(03:04:01):
donations.
I'm going to read them one after the
other, just name and location, starting with Michael
Chauvin, who has no location.
Michael Raguse in Tustin.
Dame Lacey, and she's in Lake Mills, Wisconsin.
Farivolt Tea.
Farivolt Tea in London, England.

(03:04:24):
Send us some tea.
Is it a tea company?
I don't know.
Yeah, it's a tea company.
Send us some tea.
I could go for some tea.
Scott Riley in Meridian, Idaho.
John Aiken in Babson Park, Florida.
And last on the list is Dame Rita
in Sparks.
She's a regular.
Great newsletter and shows, she writes.

(03:04:47):
Joseph Wentzel in Dawson, Georgia, $51.
He lives in small.
He says, I love what you cats talk
about.
Keep chumming it up.
He works at a big box store.
Yeah.
And now we got the $50 donors.
I'll just go run through them, name and

(03:05:07):
location, starting with William Hammer in Hagerstown, Maryland.
Leif Thompson in Meridian, Idaho.
Bobby Bowe in Bluegrass, Iowa.
Comfort King in Valley Springs, South Dakota.
Joshua Johnson in Omaha, Nebraska.
Scott McCarty in Lodi.

(03:05:28):
Jordan Tierney in Oro, South Dakota.
Got the South Dakotans in today.
Tony Lang in Castle Pines, Colorado.
C.
Jones in Safety Harbor, Florida.
And last on our list is Leslie Walker.
She's in Roseburg, Oregon, and she loves us.
Okay, that'll be it for today's show, 1760.

(03:05:52):
Yes, she says she loves us.
May the Lord bless us.
Thank you.
All right, thank you very much.
All of our donors, $50 and above.
We will not read anything under for reasons
of anonymity, so we see you, $49.99,
so we appreciate it.
And of course, all of those sustaining donors,
if you go to noagendadonations.com, you can
make a donation of any amount.
We love the numerology, as you can tell.

(03:06:12):
Lots of different numbers, and thank you for
the explanation.
But the sustaining donations really do help any
amount, any frequency, and we actually have a
baron coming up who did just that.
Thank you, as always, and once again, noagendadonations
.com.
Very short list, along with Willie Nelson, of

(03:06:33):
course, who celebrated yesterday, and Wirt Fuller, April
29th.
Jessica says happy birthday to John Dale.
He turns 50 on May 2nd.
And finally on the list, happy birthday to
Rick LaBanca.
Happy birthday from everybody here at the best
podcast in the universe.
And now we have 1, 2, 3, 4,
5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 people who

(03:06:55):
took advantage of the final, final moment of
the Commodore ship.
This means that when you go to noagendarings
.com and you give us the actual name
you would like on your certificate of being
a Commodore, we will take care of that
for you.
We have Commodore Anonymous Black Sheep, Commodore Scott
Horton, Commodore of the Human Resource Producers, Commodore
Mark of Crow Wing County, Commodore Sir Milkman

(03:07:17):
of Ebbington, Commodore Zach Zedock-Brown III, Commodore
S.T.G., Commodore Brock Reinholdt, and Commodore
John Tucker.
Commodores arriving.
Whoo!
Good list.
Very good list.
Here's that layaway baron who will be knighted
today, Sir Tom.
He is, well, let me read his note.

(03:07:40):
I was originally hit in the mouth by
Fabian of the Linux Outlaws, and after 11
years I have finally achieved the title of
Baron through monthly donations of $33.33 and
a care package of bratwurst and other meats
back in 2021.
I don't remember the...
I think John hoarded all the bratwurst and
meats.
Yes, everyone can do it.

(03:08:00):
And this is from Nemechek.
I don't know.
I don't remember.
But he goes on to say, Yes, everyone
can do it, you too.
You can do it too.
The Peerage Committee has approved carving out the
area code of 920 with Sir 10T, Duke
of Federal Reserve District 7's protectorate.
As such, I request a title change to

(03:08:21):
Baron Tom, Warden of the Frozen Tundra.
Go, Pat, go.
Keep up the great work, gents.
11 more years.
Tom G.
from the bratwurst capital.
And we're going to knight him right now.
So get your blade out.
We definitely need to have a nice blade
for him because he's becoming a...
Ooh, that is a good one.
So, all right, then.

(03:08:42):
Tom G., step on up.
Very proud to pronounce that he not only
is a knight of the Noah General Round
Table, but as Sir Tom, Baron Tom, Warden
of the Frozen Tundra.
For you, my friend, we have hookers and
blow, red boys and chardonnay, prostitutes and some
nice wine.
We have harlots and haldol, pepperoni rolls and
pale ales, redheads and ryes, beers and blunts,

(03:09:04):
cowgirls and coffin varnish, ruminants, women and rosé,
geishas and sake, vodka, vanilla, bong hits and
bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts, ginger ale and
gerbils, breast milk and pablum, and, of course,
as always at the Round Table, mutton and
mead.
And congratulations.
Tom, head over to NoahGenderRings.com.
Let us know where you want us to
send your ring.

(03:09:25):
There's a ring sizing guide on the website,
so make sure you have the right size.
It comes with two sticks of dynamite.
Oh, no, two sticks of wax.
With that, you can seal your important correspondence,
and, as always, with a certificate of authenticity.
And thank you for becoming not just a
knight, but a layaway knight and baron of
the Noah Gender Round Table.

(03:09:46):
Well, the meetups are still huge, as you
can imagine.
They take place all over Gitmo Nation, around
the globe, really.
People love doing them.
They are produced and organized.
You can go to NoahGenderMeetups.com.
Find some near you.
There's a calendar.
There's a list.
And we love it when you send in

(03:10:06):
meetup reports, but it's getting a little bit
out of control.
So keep it short, please.
There's only one today, so I don't mind
playing it.
This is the meetup report from Chicago.
What's up, y'all?
This is Eli the Coffee Guy, hanging out
here.
Reggie's having a blast with everybody.
Peace out to Baron NBS.

(03:10:26):
Getting out of Chi-town.
I don't blame you, brother.
But it's still a great city.
Look!
Yo, it's Andrew here from the UK.
MI6 has come out here to represent.
And, yeah, no, it's a real fucking pleasure
to be out here.
And, yeah, NBS is looking kind of shocked
to get past the mic after that.
Not a serial killer, Kate here.

(03:10:49):
This is Sir...
Darth Pengura Laktaki, enjoying the in-the-morning
career, staring lovingly into Eli the Coffee Guy's
eyes because he's a handsome devil.
But all glory to Nick NBS for escaping
Chicago and going to more beautiful pastures than
a natural totalitarian.

(03:11:10):
All right, God bless.
In the morning!
Hey, this is Sir Tinley Knott.
Woke.
We are here at Reggie's in Chicago.
The only venue that has been good to
us.
They have been good to us since the
pandemic when we had our first meetup here.
And passing it on.
In the morning.

(03:11:30):
In the morning, John and Adam.
This is Baron NBS at the Escape From
Chicago meetup.
I'm wrapping my time up here in Chicago.
It's been a wonderful time here in Chicago.
Hanging out here with Eli, Alex, and some
random, very fine people.
In the morning.
Hey, this is Blake.

(03:11:51):
John, we're in trouble.
There's a lot of cheap guitars in Chicago.
All economic indicators aside, this is Sir Brian
with a Y.
We are fixing an imposed food crisis.
We are fixing an imposed.
Oh my God, Adam, I am so sorry.
But we're living up in Chicago again.
If you live nearby, come to the next
meetup.
We have a bunch of them.

(03:12:13):
In the morning.
What's up, NOAA Gender Nation?
This is KJ6QDT.
Just happy to be here for my first
meetup.
Hanging out with NBS.
Wish them best of luck.
And yeah, we'll see you all on NOAA
30.
Hi, this is Alex, ITM.
This is Dame Courtney here saying farewell to

(03:12:34):
NBS.
We will truly miss you in Chicago.
In the morning.
Alcohol, I'm telling you.
Keep it tight, people.
And where's the server?
I missed that.
I'm going to have to scold you a
little bit.
Meetup's happening today The Northern Wake Public Slave
Gathering.
6 o'clock at Potluck.

(03:12:54):
Hoppy Endings in Raleigh, North Carolina.
The South Austin Slaves Meetup.
Tonight at 7 in Little Woodrow's in South
Park Meadows in Austin.
Hope you RSVP'd because you had to.
Tomorrow, the Tri-Cities Washington six-week cycle
meetup.
7 o'clock at Ty's Bar & Grill
in West Richland, Washington.
On Saturday, the first NOAA Gender Splash-Up.
That's the spring edition.

(03:13:15):
That'll be 1 o'clock Dutch North Sea
Time.
And that'll be in Scheveningen, the Netherlands.
Scheveningen.
You have to RSVP to find out where
it is.
Arno's organized that.
The Sonoma Wino Country Meetup on Saturday as
well.
Version 7.0 at Old Caz Beer in
Ronert Park, California.
And on Sunday, our next show day, Hot
Meat & Freedom Flames Brussels Backyard Barbecue.

(03:13:38):
Woo!
That's at 4 o'clock in Brussels in
Isel.
I-X-E-L-L-E-S.
Make sure you go to that one.
And I want meetup reports from everybody one
minute or less.
If you want to find all the meetups
available, they are all around the world.
You can find them at noagendameetups.com.
If you can't find one near you, start
one yourself.
It's easy and always a party.
Sometimes you want to go hang out with

(03:13:59):
all the nights and days.
Hot meat, sugar, no hell flame.
You want to be where everybody feels the
same.
It's like a party.
It's like a party.
It's just like a party.
That was the time we select our end

(03:14:20):
-of-show ISO, a rare occasion today where
we both have one.
It's a one-on-one match-up.
I don't think I'm going to win.
Well, then play yours.
But you have 11 seconds.
How can yours be 11 seconds?
I don't think it is.
It says 11 seconds.
There's probably something wrong with the clip.
I'm just having issues.

(03:14:41):
Yeah, it appears to be.
I'm going to play yours now, and then
I'll see where we can find yours.
You might have two of them back-to
-back or something.
Another fabulous show.
What more can I say?
What is that?

(03:15:02):
So that's you trying five different versions of
AI.
It's the first.
And, of course, I shouldn't have recorded the
whole thing, but the second one is the
one I wanted.
Yeah.
Boom.
Yeah.
Well, you've given away your ISO secrets here.

(03:15:24):
I know.
It was a huge blunder.
Yes, it was.
Here's mine.
Yo, yo, yo.
What up?
No, you already did that one.
No, it's a brand-new one.
It still stinks.
There we go, everybody.
It's time for the tip of the day.
At least John can't mess that one up.
Here we go.
Great advice for you and me.
Just a tip with JCB.

(03:15:47):
And sometimes Adam.
Created by Dana Brunetti.
All right, we're back to wine and food.
One more tip.
This is a website that I use a
lot, and it's a cheap trick.
You're buying wine.
Yes, we're buying wine.
You want to know if the wine's any
good.
What are you going to do?
What are we going to do?

(03:16:07):
You go to Wine Searcher.
Can I just say something?
Yeah.
I am getting complaints.
Sir Gene recently was at a dinner, texted
a picture of the wine list to you.
He says, John no longer responds.
I missed it.
I always respond.
The phone was in the drawer.
It should be sent to my email.

(03:16:29):
But I could be watching.
I might be downstairs getting clips, or I
could be doing a lot of things.
I'm sorry, Gene.
But generally speaking, I take care of this.
Wine-searcher.com.
Ooh.
This is a huge, monstrous database of wines

(03:16:50):
and all the reviews and all the stores
that sell the wine.
Wow.
So you get a look at the wine.
You put a wine at the top, say
Chateau Montrose, 1990.
Yeah.
And then it gives you where it's available,
all the different prices from cheapest to most

(03:17:11):
expensive.
And then you click on Reviews.
It shows you all the known reviews, and
it gives you summaries of the reviews, and
it gives you star ratings, and it even
goes to Cellar Tracker, which is a site
that a lot of people think is great.
I have Cellar Tracker, the app.
Yeah, Cellar Tracker, the app, which is amateurs

(03:17:32):
rating the wines.
That's correct.
It's amateurs rating the wine, taking pictures of
the label.
The label goes, oh, it should cost you
this much.
Yeah.
But it's got the Cellar Tracker number in
there, too.
It's dynamite.
This is a godsend for anyone who buys
wine.
And do you recommend this 1990 bottle you

(03:17:53):
just mentioned?
Is that like $8,000?
What is that?
The 1990 Montrose?
Yes.
What does that cost me?
Oh, it's not cheap.
But it's the one that's the top of
your mind.
It makes me wonder.
Well, it just came up to the top
of my mind.
I had it once in my life.
I'm thinking about Andres in a box, and
John's like, oh, the Montrose 1990.

(03:18:15):
That's what I'll have.
There you go, everybody.
You can find John's tip of the day
at tipoftheday.net or noagendafun.com.
Creating vibes for you and me.
Just the tip of the JCD.
And sometimes Adam.
Created by Dana Brunetti.
There you go, everybody.
Once again, we have completed our broadcast day,

(03:18:35):
and we are happy to have served you.
We do this as a public service.
You are welcome to support us with some
value if you got any value out of
this program, since clearly advertisers hate us, and
with good reason.
We are bad for their image.
So make sure you walk on by noagendadonations
.com, which soon will be available as a

(03:18:58):
button in your modern podcast app.
I guarantee it.
End of show mix is a nice Trip
House little ditty from Nautilus K.
I think he may be new.
I don't think he's ever done a mix
before.
And David Kekta checks in, our drummer.
Our drummer was always doing mixes.
He's got a hot new girlfriend, I hear.
So he's been a little sparse on the

(03:19:18):
mixes.
And I guess I can conclude by telling
you that I am still here in the
picturesque little town of Fredericksburg in the Texas
Hill Country.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I remain
without an arborist, I'm John C.
Dvorak.
We return on Sunday with another minimum three

(03:19:40):
hours of media deconstruction for your pleasure, again
as a public service.
And please remember us at noagendadonations.com.
Until then, adios mofos, and a hooey hooey,
and such.
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(03:20:00):
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juice, watermelon juice, watermelon

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