July 30, 2025 • 10 mins
Third-straight hot and padded practice, Maye shines with TD toss, OL attrition forces adjustment are the storylines of the day. Tune-in as Mike Dussault, Paul Perillo and Evan Lazar break down everything that stood out from Day 7 of Patriots Training Camp on Wednesday, July 30, 2025.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A third straight day in pads and in the heat. Yes,
the dog days of summer. Here, let's break it down.
Welcome to the Patriots training camp cast everybody, and we
are back for practice number seven. Man, they're just reeling
off right now. I feel like we're getting into a flow.
(00:21):
Feels a little bit like groundhog Day. But another productive
day on the field, and guys, I would just say
my big thought from today was more of the same.
I thought both sides showed some flashes. You had some
moments where Drake may makeing some nice throws. You had
some good pressure from the defense at times as well,
and maybe most impressive to me was just actually Drake navigating.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Some of that pressure and delivering some throws.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
So another good day, I would agree. I thought Drake
was a little bit sharper today.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Than it was yesterday. And again, you're right, it was
back and forth.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
It wasn't you know, just you know, anything that was
overly consistent, But you know, some big time throws. I
thought the one obviously down the sideline, the Kyle Williams
really stood out because I don't think Kyle Williams was
really open. I think that's one of those that he
threw them open, but a good play by the rookie
to make the adjustment on the ball.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
So yeah, some positive plays on both sides. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I thought Drake was really good today for the most part,
and maybe some of the protection issues up front were
really what led to some of the clunkiness for the
offense towards the end of his string of plays, it
felt like they didn't necessarily finish a lot of their
string as well. But I thought he made some really
good throws today. And the thing that continues to stand
out to me with him is how his timing and
(01:27):
rhythm within this offense feels like he's been in this
offense before, and it doesn't look like a quarterback that's
learning a brand new offense and is maybe still kind
of seeing it slowly and it's developing slower for him.
Feels like the ball is coming out on time and
in rhythm more times than not. So just looking around
the league at some of the other training camps where
guys are changing coaching staffs and have new coordinators, I
(01:50):
don't think that's always the case for young quarterbacks when
they go from one offense to another, that it's kind
of a seamless transition. But you mentioned the Kyle Williams
Gobald that was a pretty thrill. That's a dime, that's
a big time throw.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
He's got that one, as you like to say, he's
got that one in his toolbox.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
It's not the first time we've seen it.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
But there are also a couple of plays, Paul where we're
up above and that's a Patriots play that looked like
a couple of times, not a lot of them, but
there was one in particular where it was just a
little you know, dig sat down on a first down
and just boom hit him, ball came out right on time.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Love how you laid that out, Evan.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I thought it was one of Diggs's better days too,
you know. I mean, not that it was like a
lot of volume. I think he probably had, you know,
a handful of catches like he does every other day.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
But I thought the way.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
The catches came about, you know, one he really snatched
out of the air across the middle, sat in a
zone on another one. Just think you're seeing why he's
a little bit different than.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
The rest of the guys.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yeah, So I just want to highlight, you know, third
day of Pads, we had kind of extensive list of absences,
some guys that Mike Frabele said that we're given arrest
to Harold Landry at the top of the list, giving
opportunity for calevon Chase On who has really been a
consistent performer, and today he had a series where man
he blew bi Will Campbell I think two times and
(02:59):
it was not really close. He's really provided that pass
rush presence that I think they desperately needed. I felt
like I talked all off season about him or about
that need and now didn't necessarily expect him to be
the player that he has been through camp.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
But he's been really impressive, and today I got to
call him out. I thought he was excellent today.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Yeah. Out of the guys that have been participating fully
almost every day, I would say he's been the most
noticeable defender on the field, maybe the best defender throughout
camp at this point for the Patriots, just really rushing
the passer extremely well. He's got that inside move down,
which is obviously a thing that Campbell's working on. So
it's a good matchup for Campbell to sort of work
(03:37):
in particularly on that. Today they were starting to stunt
a little bit more upfront do some games and things
like that with the pass rush, and Jason was a
big part of that as well. So he's just been disruptive.
He's been noticeable every single day coming off the edge,
and I know people are going to hear that and say, well,
that means that Will Campbell doesn't look so good. I
didn't think today was his best day, but I did
(03:58):
think he got better as the day progressed. I said,
started off pretty rocky for Campbell, but as practice wore
on and we got into the team periods, he settled
in a little bit. I know that that's going to
be a big talking point, so I just want to
make sure don't panic like it was okay.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Yeah, yeah, Well let's stay on the offensive line of
as Garrett Bradberry was out and we've been seeing a
lot of rotation at the center position, but it seemed
like this was an opportunity Paul for them to adjust
and all of a sudden, we had Ben Brown in
at center and rookie Jared Wilson playing all the reps
at left.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Guard right because they're thin now so they need to
find some more centers. And they had Cole Strange with
the second group at center, which opened up the spot
for Wilson, who we've been talking about is clearly making
a push with his athleticism. Cayden Wallace talked to us
after practice, you know, and he he just says he's
really good, and he used more colorful language than that too.
(04:51):
But you know, for a second year guy to look
at a first year guy like that, you know, I
thought that was an impressive quote to draw that kind
of an impression that quickly.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
So there's some mixing and matching city.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
So is another guy that left practice today, you know,
sort of in the middle of the team period. So
the attrition is hitting the offensive line a little bit.
So you know, Morgan Moses is on a pitch count
of some sort. Yes, Sir Durant did not practice today
after getting banged up yesterday, saying with Brad Berry, so
I think if you look at the three deep that
they have right.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Now, they don't have enough.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah, there's no tackle, no left tackle with the third group,
so they're going to continue to mix and match. I
think they had another center come in today. I think
it's the youngest.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Lindstrom from BC, the youngest one. Yeah, I mean Alex Yeah, yeah, yeah, Alec.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Yeah, I do wonder. You know Darian Lowe still on
the pup list, like he's supposed to be your backup
left tackle and he hasn't been out there. But with
Jared Wilson, I think it really stands out every single
day just how polished he is already as a rookie.
And I think the main thing is in past protection.
I think he's got a great stout anchor to him,
and he's got a great job of refitting his hands
(06:01):
and recovering when guys do swat his hands away and
swatted that initial punch aways. Just good feet, good balance,
doesn't end up on the ground a ton. Those are
the things that you want to see out of rookie
offensive lineman.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Out of the gate.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
You can stay on your feet, can you move people?
Can you anchor? That's the NFL power is the league
Like the college game, You're not going to see the
power that you're going to see at this level. When
Christian Barmore and Milton Williams and even the Kiris Hunger
Jeremiah Farms are coming off the ball at you can
you put your cleats in the ground and stop them.
And that's different than the college game in terms of
(06:34):
the level of power. So seeing all those things from
Jared Wilson's really encouraging. I know that there's injuries and
there's reasons maybe that he was playing left guard that
go beyond this, but I just don't necessarily see right
now a path where he's not starting somewhere on this
line come week one. He would really have to tail
off from here to have that not happen. So I
would like to see it at left guard. Today it
(06:55):
was at left guard, so maybe they are in alignment
there and they have him at guard instead of center.
But either way, I feel like really positive that it
feels like they drafted two guys that can start on
the line, And when you had the worst offensive line
in football last year, to draft two starters on the
offensive line, that's a big development for this team and
for the offense.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, the kicker competition continues. After last two days, each
guy got their own reps. Today we were back to alternating,
and Paul thought it looked a little better, looked like
all the kicks were made best.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I think was the best day for the kickers.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I know, you know, your boy Alex will talk about
that and catch twenty two later. But I thought all
eight kicks today I thought looked exactly like an NFL
field goal should look.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah, right, there's some positive. No, for sure, that was positive.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
You're not even really any question, I mean some of well, no,
and I saw that too. I mean the balls looked
right coming off his foot. There was no real question
they all they all looked good from from all of
our vantage points.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Uh, what else do we have to breakdown? Anything else?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
One is I just wanted to highlight Joel was here. Yeah,
and I want to say about that nothing nice catch
from Javon Baker. I mean, it's hard trying to highlight
all these guys who you know, made a play here
and there, But certainly this is the time where guys
are starting.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I wouldn't say, you know, I'll add that Jalen Polk
was one of the players that spoke after practice and
sort of asked a lot of different ways you know
how he's changed what he's learned, and he's pretty steadfast
in that. No, this is about me. I just got
I just have to play better like I. He doesn't
really acknowledge last year, which I think you can take
one of two ways. He just kept saying nothing's changed,
(08:30):
nothing's different. He said that I don't know if you'll
overrun that one. He said that about three or four
different times in different ways. So I think you could
take it as that's a positive sign. He's confident in
his ability and he's ready to sort of turn the
page move on. And it's about this year fresh start, reset,
I think is one of the words he used.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Or you could be negative. Some people are like that,
you know, like some others.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
He not here that he didn't learn from last year,
right that he just thinks nothing happened last year and
there's nothing to change. It's just all about getting, you know,
getting started again. So I just thought it was interesting
his perspective.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Yeah, yeah, I just mentioned I was with Kidd and Wallace,
who there's another player that is interesting moving inside. He's
playing guard and he said he really likes it if
Rabel pointed out his physicality before practice, and so it
allows him to be a little bit more physical. You're
not dancing on the outside at tackle anymore. But the
guy I think that deserves mentioning a little bit is
DJ James, just because he's been out there and he's
(09:23):
been with the top group. Now Christian Zalez and Carlton
Davis are not practicing, so there's an opportunity there. That
doesn't necessarily mean he earned it right away, but I
think looking at him and having him out there is
interesting just for the back end of that cornerback depth
chart between him and Alex Austin and Marcella's dial, it's
going to be a competition there for those last few spots.
So not a name that I expected to be in
(09:45):
the mix there, and he is, so DJ James.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yeah, Well there you have it, folks. Three street jays
of Pads.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Patriots going to pull back tomorrow with a walkthrough and
then in stadium practice on Friday night. But don't worry,
we'll be here both days breaking the breaking those practices down,
telling you everything we see. So stick with us here
on the Patriots Training campcast.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Hey, this is Deuce. Thanks for tuning into the show.
If you really want to.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Help us, make sure you like us wherever you get
your podcasts like Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Also make sure
you follow us on the New England Patriots YouTube channel
to see this show and everything else that we do
here at the Patriots.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Thanks a lot,
A third straight day in pads and in the heat. Yes,
the dog days of summer. Here, let's break it down.
Welcome to the Patriots training camp cast everybody, and we
are back for practice number seven. Man, they're just reeling
off right now. I feel like we're getting into a flow.
(00:21):
Feels a little bit like groundhog Day. But another productive
day on the field, and guys, I would just say
my big thought from today was more of the same.
I thought both sides showed some flashes. You had some
moments where Drake may makeing some nice throws. You had
some good pressure from the defense at times as well,
and maybe most impressive to me was just actually Drake navigating.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Some of that pressure and delivering some throws.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
So another good day, I would agree. I thought Drake
was a little bit sharper today.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Than it was yesterday. And again, you're right, it was
back and forth.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
It wasn't you know, just you know, anything that was
overly consistent, But you know, some big time throws. I
thought the one obviously down the sideline, the Kyle Williams
really stood out because I don't think Kyle Williams was
really open. I think that's one of those that he
threw them open, but a good play by the rookie
to make the adjustment on the ball.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
So yeah, some positive plays on both sides. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I thought Drake was really good today for the most part,
and maybe some of the protection issues up front were
really what led to some of the clunkiness for the
offense towards the end of his string of plays, it
felt like they didn't necessarily finish a lot of their
string as well. But I thought he made some really
good throws today. And the thing that continues to stand
out to me with him is how his timing and
(01:27):
rhythm within this offense feels like he's been in this
offense before, and it doesn't look like a quarterback that's
learning a brand new offense and is maybe still kind
of seeing it slowly and it's developing slower for him.
Feels like the ball is coming out on time and
in rhythm more times than not. So just looking around
the league at some of the other training camps where
guys are changing coaching staffs and have new coordinators, I
(01:50):
don't think that's always the case for young quarterbacks when
they go from one offense to another, that it's kind
of a seamless transition. But you mentioned the Kyle Williams
Gobald that was a pretty thrill. That's a dime, that's
a big time throw.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
He's got that one, as you like to say, he's
got that one in his toolbox.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
It's not the first time we've seen it.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
But there are also a couple of plays, Paul where we're
up above and that's a Patriots play that looked like
a couple of times, not a lot of them, but
there was one in particular where it was just a
little you know, dig sat down on a first down
and just boom hit him, ball came out right on time.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Love how you laid that out, Evan.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I thought it was one of Diggs's better days too,
you know. I mean, not that it was like a
lot of volume. I think he probably had, you know,
a handful of catches like he does every other day.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
But I thought the way.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
The catches came about, you know, one he really snatched
out of the air across the middle, sat in a
zone on another one. Just think you're seeing why he's
a little bit different than.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
The rest of the guys.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yeah, So I just want to highlight, you know, third
day of Pads, we had kind of extensive list of absences,
some guys that Mike Frabele said that we're given arrest
to Harold Landry at the top of the list, giving
opportunity for calevon Chase On who has really been a
consistent performer, and today he had a series where man
he blew bi Will Campbell I think two times and
(02:59):
it was not really close. He's really provided that pass
rush presence that I think they desperately needed. I felt
like I talked all off season about him or about
that need and now didn't necessarily expect him to be
the player that he has been through camp.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
But he's been really impressive, and today I got to
call him out. I thought he was excellent today.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Yeah. Out of the guys that have been participating fully
almost every day, I would say he's been the most
noticeable defender on the field, maybe the best defender throughout
camp at this point for the Patriots, just really rushing
the passer extremely well. He's got that inside move down,
which is obviously a thing that Campbell's working on. So
it's a good matchup for Campbell to sort of work
(03:37):
in particularly on that. Today they were starting to stunt
a little bit more upfront do some games and things
like that with the pass rush, and Jason was a
big part of that as well. So he's just been disruptive.
He's been noticeable every single day coming off the edge,
and I know people are going to hear that and say, well,
that means that Will Campbell doesn't look so good. I
didn't think today was his best day, but I did
(03:58):
think he got better as the day progressed. I said,
started off pretty rocky for Campbell, but as practice wore
on and we got into the team periods, he settled
in a little bit. I know that that's going to
be a big talking point, so I just want to
make sure don't panic like it was okay.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Yeah, yeah, Well let's stay on the offensive line of
as Garrett Bradberry was out and we've been seeing a
lot of rotation at the center position, but it seemed
like this was an opportunity Paul for them to adjust
and all of a sudden, we had Ben Brown in
at center and rookie Jared Wilson playing all the reps
at left.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Guard right because they're thin now so they need to
find some more centers. And they had Cole Strange with
the second group at center, which opened up the spot
for Wilson, who we've been talking about is clearly making
a push with his athleticism. Cayden Wallace talked to us
after practice, you know, and he he just says he's
really good, and he used more colorful language than that too.
(04:51):
But you know, for a second year guy to look
at a first year guy like that, you know, I
thought that was an impressive quote to draw that kind
of an impression that quickly.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
So there's some mixing and matching city.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
So is another guy that left practice today, you know,
sort of in the middle of the team period. So
the attrition is hitting the offensive line a little bit.
So you know, Morgan Moses is on a pitch count
of some sort. Yes, Sir Durant did not practice today
after getting banged up yesterday, saying with Brad Berry, so
I think if you look at the three deep that
they have right.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Now, they don't have enough.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah, there's no tackle, no left tackle with the third group,
so they're going to continue to mix and match. I
think they had another center come in today. I think
it's the youngest.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Lindstrom from BC, the youngest one. Yeah, I mean Alex Yeah, yeah, yeah, Alec.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Yeah, I do wonder. You know Darian Lowe still on
the pup list, like he's supposed to be your backup
left tackle and he hasn't been out there. But with
Jared Wilson, I think it really stands out every single
day just how polished he is already as a rookie.
And I think the main thing is in past protection.
I think he's got a great stout anchor to him,
and he's got a great job of refitting his hands
(06:01):
and recovering when guys do swat his hands away and
swatted that initial punch aways. Just good feet, good balance,
doesn't end up on the ground a ton. Those are
the things that you want to see out of rookie
offensive lineman.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Out of the gate.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
You can stay on your feet, can you move people?
Can you anchor? That's the NFL power is the league
Like the college game, You're not going to see the
power that you're going to see at this level. When
Christian Barmore and Milton Williams and even the Kiris Hunger
Jeremiah Farms are coming off the ball at you can
you put your cleats in the ground and stop them.
And that's different than the college game in terms of
(06:34):
the level of power. So seeing all those things from
Jared Wilson's really encouraging. I know that there's injuries and
there's reasons maybe that he was playing left guard that
go beyond this, but I just don't necessarily see right
now a path where he's not starting somewhere on this
line come week one. He would really have to tail
off from here to have that not happen. So I
would like to see it at left guard. Today it
(06:55):
was at left guard, so maybe they are in alignment
there and they have him at guard instead of center.
But either way, I feel like really positive that it
feels like they drafted two guys that can start on
the line, And when you had the worst offensive line
in football last year, to draft two starters on the
offensive line, that's a big development for this team and
for the offense.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, the kicker competition continues. After last two days, each
guy got their own reps. Today we were back to alternating,
and Paul thought it looked a little better, looked like
all the kicks were made best.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I think was the best day for the kickers.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I know, you know, your boy Alex will talk about
that and catch twenty two later. But I thought all
eight kicks today I thought looked exactly like an NFL
field goal should look.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah, right, there's some positive. No, for sure, that was positive.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
You're not even really any question, I mean some of well, no,
and I saw that too. I mean the balls looked
right coming off his foot. There was no real question
they all they all looked good from from all of
our vantage points.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Uh, what else do we have to breakdown? Anything else?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
One is I just wanted to highlight Joel was here. Yeah,
and I want to say about that nothing nice catch
from Javon Baker. I mean, it's hard trying to highlight
all these guys who you know, made a play here
and there, But certainly this is the time where guys
are starting.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I wouldn't say, you know, I'll add that Jalen Polk
was one of the players that spoke after practice and
sort of asked a lot of different ways you know
how he's changed what he's learned, and he's pretty steadfast
in that. No, this is about me. I just got
I just have to play better like I. He doesn't
really acknowledge last year, which I think you can take
one of two ways. He just kept saying nothing's changed,
(08:30):
nothing's different. He said that I don't know if you'll
overrun that one. He said that about three or four
different times in different ways. So I think you could
take it as that's a positive sign. He's confident in
his ability and he's ready to sort of turn the
page move on. And it's about this year fresh start, reset,
I think is one of the words he used.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Or you could be negative. Some people are like that,
you know, like some others.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
He not here that he didn't learn from last year,
right that he just thinks nothing happened last year and
there's nothing to change. It's just all about getting, you know,
getting started again. So I just thought it was interesting
his perspective.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Yeah, yeah, I just mentioned I was with Kidd and Wallace,
who there's another player that is interesting moving inside. He's
playing guard and he said he really likes it if
Rabel pointed out his physicality before practice, and so it
allows him to be a little bit more physical. You're
not dancing on the outside at tackle anymore. But the
guy I think that deserves mentioning a little bit is
DJ James, just because he's been out there and he's
(09:23):
been with the top group. Now Christian Zalez and Carlton
Davis are not practicing, so there's an opportunity there. That
doesn't necessarily mean he earned it right away, but I
think looking at him and having him out there is
interesting just for the back end of that cornerback depth
chart between him and Alex Austin and Marcella's dial, it's
going to be a competition there for those last few spots.
So not a name that I expected to be in
(09:45):
the mix there, and he is, so DJ James.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yeah, Well there you have it, folks. Three street jays
of Pads.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Patriots going to pull back tomorrow with a walkthrough and
then in stadium practice on Friday night. But don't worry,
we'll be here both days breaking the breaking those practices down,
telling you everything we see. So stick with us here
on the Patriots Training campcast.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Hey, this is Deuce. Thanks for tuning into the show.
If you really want to.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Help us, make sure you like us wherever you get
your podcasts like Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Also make sure
you follow us on the New England Patriots YouTube channel
to see this show and everything else that we do
here at the Patriots.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Thanks a lot,
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