Tune-in as for a full recap of Day 9 of Training Camp. The Patriots held an in-stadium practice under the lights at Gillette Stadium on Friday for Season Ticket Members and featured a blue team vs. white team scrimmage without pads. We discuss linebacker Matthew Judon's reported re-worked contract. Plus, who stood out, who was missing and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
This is the Patriots Training Camp Cast. The Patriots Training
Camp Cast is your source for all the news from
Patriots Training Camp.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Well, I do still watch the news.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Practice is over, but the writers of Patriots dot com
have you covered well, I miss yesterday now here to
review today's practice. The writers of Patriots dot com and that.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Would be the entire crew of the writing team of
Patriots dot com, Evan Lazar, Mike Desol, Paul Parola with
you after the in stadium night practice on day nine
here at Jillette Stadium, and I would say the biggest
news of the night was off the field as practice
was getting underway, a report from Adam Schefter. I believe
(00:47):
he was the first to have it about a contract
adjustment for Matthew Judon, so which definitely makes a lot
of sense based on what we saw during camp every
single day with Judon doing very little out there, he
gets a couple extra million in the coffers, which I
think he is, you know, certainly deserving of. After practice,
(01:08):
we got to hear from Jack Jones for the first
time of the summer, So we'll get to that later.
In between I'm gonna let you guys tell everybody what happened.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Well, it was a White vers Blue quasi scrimmage. I mean,
I'm not sure exactly what you would put it in,
yes scrimmage and quotes.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I used quotes in my blogs a number of times
that half scrimmage.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
It's kind of just a dry run of a game
without the competition portion of it and just getting used
to the flow of the game. And you know, I
think they threw a couple of situations at them. All right,
that kick was missed, now we're here, you know, those
kind of things. So not a lot to probably take
from the in stadium practice, but a nice cap to
the week. I think six straight days of practices. They're
going to be off tomorrow and get a little break
(01:50):
and then and then you kind of turn the page
to the preseason on Sunday and start getting ready of Panthers.
So on the field, I don't know, not too much
to take away. Maybe the kickers, Evan, what do you got.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Yeah, specialists, I think is always a big one. And
I know it's crazy, but trust me when I tell you,
when you're in the stadium and there's even just a
little bit of stakes of being in front of a crowd,
I'm sure Bill Belichick is keeping tally of a Chad
Ryland versus Nick Folk and the punters and all that.
Bryce Berenger had some boomers tonight, a sixty five yard
(02:18):
punt over five seconds of hangtime and another one earlier
that was over five seconds in hang time. So there's
absolutely no question that that guy can punt the football.
The question really is is consistency, because we've seen some
punts where shanks it a little bit, and then other
punts where he can flip the field like he did tonight.
Chad Ryland did miss from about forty five yards, but
(02:38):
he made his other kicks, and Nick Folk was perfect.
Both of them had a weird false start snap issue
happened to them, so I'm kind of throwing those kicks out.
But I still consistently see a much bigger leg much.
It just looks fresher coming off Chad Ryley.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I don't think this much doubt, but I did think
that it was something to keep an eye on first
time in the stadium. I think Evan's right. I think,
you know, Bill likes that sort of environment to add
a little juice. I thought it was interesting that most
of the kicks came toward the you know, the cloth
the old closed and I was gonna say the close ed,
but now they both closed, you know, away from the
(03:16):
new larger video board. And uh yeah, there was a
couple that Rylan missed. One was definitely thrown off kilter
by the movement up front of the line and whatnot.
But I bring it up only because it gave me
some PTSD to justin Rollwasser. It did low line drive
that was kind of spinning sideways, fell short into the
(03:37):
to the left. Was not good, but I don't think
that was necessarily on him. I agree with Evan that
the leg is definitely stronger than nick Folk, and Folk
was as normal. He made everything.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Yeah, and just you know, I could comment on Jude
on too, because I guess this is kind of the
new normal with the hold ends and this is what
it kind of looks like. You know, I think this
is what you got to keep in mind when you
know guys are going through this. Certainly not everybody, but
there was a lot of speculation of what was going on,
and that is what's going on.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Hold in not getting I think, so, you know, and
again you know, they they're not going to come right
out and admit that. But Stefan Gilmour never did either,
and I would go to my grave thinking that he
did that a couple of years ago as well.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
And it's an easy to kind of hide it because
he's such an important player and they don't really have
much depth behind him, so it's easy to kind of
make that leap in your mind, like, well, maybe they're
just protecting him. But it's good news, and I hope
to see Judon out there and involved and getting in
shape and getting ready for the season. But I also
am okay if they continue to manage him a little bit.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Ye, So go ahead.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
No.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
I just think my line for Judon was the first
joint practice in Green Bay. I didn't really care if
he practices in the practices here, but he's got to
have some sort of competition to get the cobwebs off
at some point. And I think that that that was
back to back weeks. They wanted to get something done.
They maybe even got down a little bit early to
have him practice next week. I think he'll be out
(04:52):
there practicing. But a guy that only Nick Bosa and
Miles Garrett have more sacks than Matthew Judon since he
signed with the Patriots two years go, and I think
you look at that locker room. If they're not going
to take care of Judon, then who are they going
to take care of. I think it's somebody that they
got to make sure, just for locker room morale that
when you're back to back Pro Bowls amongst the leaders
(05:14):
in Zack fifteen and a half sacks last year, you
got to reward some people for that type of effort.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, let him wet his beak a little bit, as
they say, Mike. So with the Jack Jones situation, he
took a very limited amount of questions at the end
of the practice. I thought he did a good job
of just sort of handling himself. You know, he just
talked about, you know, wants to be on the football field,
and when he's out there, it's all about what he's
supposed to do, when he wants to make sure he's
(05:39):
doing whatever he needs to do for the team. He
was asked about his version of the events that night.
He said that that was a question for his lawyer,
which I think is the absolute right answer from the
player perspective there. And then you know, someone I think
asked him if he was surprised to still be part
of the team or no, sorry, if he expects to
(06:00):
be part of the team in twenty twenty three, and
he said that, well, that's that's going to be up
to code. That's coaches call. And you know, he's again
just doing whatever he's supposed to do to make sure
he's ready to be part of this team. And he
was asked, I know that we was sort of like
a short amount of questions. But he was also asked
about the incident that took place at practice on Thursday,
(06:23):
and he really didn't get into it. Just that's just football, man,
you know, And that was that was big. I thought
he did a nice job. I mean, under the circumstances.
Not an easy situation, right for a young guy in
the crosshairs. He's got to balance the legal elements of
this as well as everything else. I thought he did
a good enough job. And you know, I think you
face the music and maybe you won't have to do
(06:45):
it again for a while. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
So, I mean still has big questions with him. Is
he going to be available. He's a good player. I
mean I think he can definitely play. He could definitely
help this team. And so it's just disappointing. You know,
we knew what he was dealing with legally, then to
have that event yesterday happen, it's just it's kind of
adding to the uncertainty of Jack Jones. And you know,
he said he didn't know, and I don't know what's
going to happen with him right now. And obviously he's
got legal things coming up in August as well that
could have something to do with it. So I guess
(07:08):
we just kind of wait and see. And you know,
Isaiah Bolden kind of playing a little well, came up
with an interception at the end. I know it doesn't
mean anything, but I think he's just been one guy
who maybe has benefited a little bit from Jack Jones's
reduced reps.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, some reps, absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
I think, you know, just to spin it to football
with Jack Jones, you look at what happens when he's
not out there to that outside cornerback depth, and I
think you are talking about Isaiah Bolden or maybe even
moving Jalen Mills back the corner because they don't have
much size if that's if he's not in there, and
I know he's not the biggest guy, but He's at
least five eleven six foot, so's a little bit bigger
(07:42):
than a Jonathan Jones or Marcus Jones. And those two
guys being on the field a lot with five eight,
five nine corners all over the place, and Miles Bryant's
a smaller guy too. So I look at Isaiah Bolden
and see a much bigger guy, a guy that can
really run four to three speed. He can return kickoffs,
play on special teams. You know, a couple of different
things there that he can do to make himself valuable
(08:04):
as a fifth corner. I thought the best play that
he's had in camp was punching the ball out from
Devonte Parker. I think that was yesterday or the day
before Thursday or Wednesday, and you know, just one of
those late punchouts where Parker looked like he caught it
and then he went to go bring it down and
Bolden punched it out and forced the incompletion. So he's
made some plays. He's played a little bit with the
(08:24):
with the high end twos. I wouldn't call it ones,
but high end twos. And we'll see what happens with
Isaiah Bolden.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yeah, and those two guys him and speed a mere
speed great, Uh, you know, projections to special teamers with
their with their just their measurables, uh, and obvious athleticism.
So that's gonna do it for tonight. Uh, Mike, you
put the preview on it. Sunday, they'll be back at it,
uh with practice at one o'clock. It's supposed to be
(08:51):
now Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, and that'll put it into the
public portion of training camp. So it's amazing how quickly
these days go. But that's day nine. The books
This is the Patriots Training Camp Cast. The Patriots Training
Camp Cast is your source for all the news from
Patriots Training Camp.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Well, I do still watch the news.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Practice is over, but the writers of Patriots dot com
have you covered well, I miss yesterday now here to
review today's practice. The writers of Patriots dot com and that.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Would be the entire crew of the writing team of
Patriots dot com, Evan Lazar, Mike Desol, Paul Parola with
you after the in stadium night practice on day nine
here at Jillette Stadium, and I would say the biggest
news of the night was off the field as practice
was getting underway, a report from Adam Schefter. I believe
(00:47):
he was the first to have it about a contract
adjustment for Matthew Judon, so which definitely makes a lot
of sense based on what we saw during camp every
single day with Judon doing very little out there, he
gets a couple extra million in the coffers, which I
think he is, you know, certainly deserving of. After practice,
(01:08):
we got to hear from Jack Jones for the first
time of the summer, So we'll get to that later.
In between I'm gonna let you guys tell everybody what happened.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Well, it was a White vers Blue quasi scrimmage. I mean,
I'm not sure exactly what you would put it in,
yes scrimmage and quotes.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I used quotes in my blogs a number of times
that half scrimmage.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
It's kind of just a dry run of a game
without the competition portion of it and just getting used
to the flow of the game. And you know, I
think they threw a couple of situations at them. All right,
that kick was missed, now we're here, you know, those
kind of things. So not a lot to probably take
from the in stadium practice, but a nice cap to
the week. I think six straight days of practices. They're
going to be off tomorrow and get a little break
(01:50):
and then and then you kind of turn the page
to the preseason on Sunday and start getting ready of Panthers.
So on the field, I don't know, not too much
to take away. Maybe the kickers, Evan, what do you got.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Yeah, specialists, I think is always a big one. And
I know it's crazy, but trust me when I tell you,
when you're in the stadium and there's even just a
little bit of stakes of being in front of a crowd,
I'm sure Bill Belichick is keeping tally of a Chad
Ryland versus Nick Folk and the punters and all that.
Bryce Berenger had some boomers tonight, a sixty five yard
(02:18):
punt over five seconds of hangtime and another one earlier
that was over five seconds in hang time. So there's
absolutely no question that that guy can punt the football.
The question really is is consistency, because we've seen some
punts where shanks it a little bit, and then other
punts where he can flip the field like he did tonight.
Chad Ryland did miss from about forty five yards, but
(02:38):
he made his other kicks, and Nick Folk was perfect.
Both of them had a weird false start snap issue
happened to them, so I'm kind of throwing those kicks out.
But I still consistently see a much bigger leg much.
It just looks fresher coming off Chad Ryley.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I don't think this much doubt, but I did think
that it was something to keep an eye on first
time in the stadium. I think Evan's right. I think,
you know, Bill likes that sort of environment to add
a little juice. I thought it was interesting that most
of the kicks came toward the you know, the cloth
the old closed and I was gonna say the close ed,
but now they both closed, you know, away from the
(03:16):
new larger video board. And uh yeah, there was a
couple that Rylan missed. One was definitely thrown off kilter
by the movement up front of the line and whatnot.
But I bring it up only because it gave me
some PTSD to justin Rollwasser. It did low line drive
that was kind of spinning sideways, fell short into the
(03:37):
to the left. Was not good, but I don't think
that was necessarily on him. I agree with Evan that
the leg is definitely stronger than nick Folk, and Folk
was as normal. He made everything.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Yeah, and just you know, I could comment on Jude
on too, because I guess this is kind of the
new normal with the hold ends and this is what
it kind of looks like. You know, I think this
is what you got to keep in mind when you
know guys are going through this. Certainly not everybody, but
there was a lot of speculation of what was going on,
and that is what's going on.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Hold in not getting I think, so, you know, and
again you know, they they're not going to come right
out and admit that. But Stefan Gilmour never did either,
and I would go to my grave thinking that he
did that a couple of years ago as well.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
And it's an easy to kind of hide it because
he's such an important player and they don't really have
much depth behind him, so it's easy to kind of
make that leap in your mind, like, well, maybe they're
just protecting him. But it's good news, and I hope
to see Judon out there and involved and getting in
shape and getting ready for the season. But I also
am okay if they continue to manage him a little bit.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Ye, So go ahead.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
No.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
I just think my line for Judon was the first
joint practice in Green Bay. I didn't really care if
he practices in the practices here, but he's got to
have some sort of competition to get the cobwebs off
at some point. And I think that that that was
back to back weeks. They wanted to get something done.
They maybe even got down a little bit early to
have him practice next week. I think he'll be out
(04:52):
there practicing. But a guy that only Nick Bosa and
Miles Garrett have more sacks than Matthew Judon since he
signed with the Patriots two years go, and I think
you look at that locker room. If they're not going
to take care of Judon, then who are they going
to take care of. I think it's somebody that they
got to make sure, just for locker room morale that
when you're back to back Pro Bowls amongst the leaders
(05:14):
in Zack fifteen and a half sacks last year, you
got to reward some people for that type of effort.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, let him wet his beak a little bit, as
they say, Mike. So with the Jack Jones situation, he
took a very limited amount of questions at the end
of the practice. I thought he did a good job
of just sort of handling himself. You know, he just
talked about, you know, wants to be on the football field,
and when he's out there, it's all about what he's
supposed to do, when he wants to make sure he's
(05:39):
doing whatever he needs to do for the team. He
was asked about his version of the events that night.
He said that that was a question for his lawyer,
which I think is the absolute right answer from the
player perspective there. And then you know, someone I think
asked him if he was surprised to still be part
of the team or no, sorry, if he expects to
(06:00):
be part of the team in twenty twenty three, and
he said that, well, that's that's going to be up
to code. That's coaches call. And you know, he's again
just doing whatever he's supposed to do to make sure
he's ready to be part of this team. And he
was asked, I know that we was sort of like
a short amount of questions. But he was also asked
about the incident that took place at practice on Thursday,
(06:23):
and he really didn't get into it. Just that's just football, man,
you know, And that was that was big. I thought
he did a nice job. I mean, under the circumstances.
Not an easy situation, right for a young guy in
the crosshairs. He's got to balance the legal elements of
this as well as everything else. I thought he did
a good enough job. And you know, I think you
face the music and maybe you won't have to do
(06:45):
it again for a while. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
So, I mean still has big questions with him. Is
he going to be available. He's a good player. I
mean I think he can definitely play. He could definitely
help this team. And so it's just disappointing. You know,
we knew what he was dealing with legally, then to
have that event yesterday happen, it's just it's kind of
adding to the uncertainty of Jack Jones. And you know,
he said he didn't know, and I don't know what's
going to happen with him right now. And obviously he's
got legal things coming up in August as well that
could have something to do with it. So I guess
(07:08):
we just kind of wait and see. And you know,
Isaiah Bolden kind of playing a little well, came up
with an interception at the end. I know it doesn't
mean anything, but I think he's just been one guy
who maybe has benefited a little bit from Jack Jones's
reduced reps.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, some reps, absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
I think, you know, just to spin it to football
with Jack Jones, you look at what happens when he's
not out there to that outside cornerback depth, and I
think you are talking about Isaiah Bolden or maybe even
moving Jalen Mills back the corner because they don't have
much size if that's if he's not in there, and
I know he's not the biggest guy, but He's at
least five eleven six foot, so's a little bit bigger
(07:42):
than a Jonathan Jones or Marcus Jones. And those two
guys being on the field a lot with five eight,
five nine corners all over the place, and Miles Bryant's
a smaller guy too. So I look at Isaiah Bolden
and see a much bigger guy, a guy that can
really run four to three speed. He can return kickoffs,
play on special teams. You know, a couple of different
things there that he can do to make himself valuable
(08:04):
as a fifth corner. I thought the best play that
he's had in camp was punching the ball out from
Devonte Parker. I think that was yesterday or the day
before Thursday or Wednesday, and you know, just one of
those late punchouts where Parker looked like he caught it
and then he went to go bring it down and
Bolden punched it out and forced the incompletion. So he's
made some plays. He's played a little bit with the
(08:24):
with the high end twos. I wouldn't call it ones,
but high end twos. And we'll see what happens with
Isaiah Bolden.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yeah, and those two guys him and speed a mere
speed great, Uh, you know, projections to special teamers with
their with their just their measurables, uh, and obvious athleticism.
So that's gonna do it for tonight. Uh, Mike, you
put the preview on it. Sunday, they'll be back at it,
uh with practice at one o'clock. It's supposed to be
(08:51):
now Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, and that'll put it into the
public portion of training camp. So it's amazing how quickly
these days go. But that's day nine. The books
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