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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On Tuesday, the Patriots dialed back to a walk through place,
but we're gonna break down the upcoming joint practice with
the Washington Commanders. Let's do it. Welcome to the Patriots
Training Camp cast, everybody. I'm Mike do So, joined by
Paul Perilo and Evan Lazar and guys. Today the eleventh
(00:22):
practice of training Camp. Dial Back to walk through seem
like they're really getting prepared for the Washington Commanders who
are gonna come in here tomorrow for a nice set
of joint practice. Is always fun to watch, But Paul,
I think maybe the biggest thing that stood out to me,
aside from some of the attendant stuff, is just getting
ready for Jad and Daniels in that offense.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
And listening to Jabrill Peppers talk about it a little bit,
it's a good test for them. It's a guy that
was obviously pretty dynamic as a rookie last year. Peppers
talked about wanting to make sure that the discipline, the
eyes were in the right place. They want to make
sure they maintain their containment on the outside. So I
do think it'll be a nice little test for the defense.
They will see a handful of mobile guys and you know,
(01:00):
obviously Daniels is as electric as any of them.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah, anything stand out to you today, Well, it would.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Just be interesting to see if some of the carryover
the reps that we saw in today's practice with you know,
Marcus Bryant still mixing in, Javon Baker mixing in a
little bit, and do those guys start to get opportunities
with Drake May and with the top offense. We'll see
you because daylight tomorrow is a day that Javon Baker
could make the team theoretically if he has a great
(01:24):
day against the Commanders. And you know, Latimore and Sanders
still in a good cornerback room in Washington. So I'm
just interested to see if that was like kind of
setting the table for giving those guys some of those
opportunities tomorrow to maybe make a push that we've already
seen a little bit here.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah, I want to set the table a little bit
for joint practices. But first let's just talk a little
about the attendance two guys who left practice yesterday, Marcellus
Dial as well as Jaquelin Roy. We're not out there today.
We did see Carlton Davis, who continues his pattern of
showing up for walkthroughs light participant. Wouldn't anticipate to see
him either tomorrow or Friday nights still, but overall, it
(02:01):
seems like some of the depth on the offensive line
that's where I'm most interested. Guys. You know, Citisow has
been out for a little while, Caden Wallace has been
out for a little while. They've had to sign it.
You know, they brought in Alec Lindstrom at center as well.
How much is Will Campbell gonna play? I'm not expecting
to see a lot of Morgan Moses, but when I
look at these tackle positions, we've seen, like you said,
have more of Marcus Bryant in recent days. Tray Jacobs
(02:22):
has continued to work in with that unit. Those are
two guys I'm just going to start with on the outside.
Bryant and Jacobs has two tackles who opportunity for a
swing tackle position, but also very valuable depth. And you
can tell through training camp the Patriots have kind of
been building towards having that depth by getting them reps
early on.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, I think the right tackle spot is interesting because
of exactly what you said. Morgan Moses has been out
there every day but I think lately we've seen less
and less of him in the actual team reps today
when they were doing the walkthrough stuff, there was a
lot of rotation between Jacobs and and Bryant the rookie,
who I love the phrase that Evan has tools the rookie,
(03:01):
you know, because he does have all the measurables. I
think you'll see a lot of those two guys on Wednesday,
and you know, I think there might be an opportunity
for a swing tackle if one of these guys can
can show that they can play both sides. We haven't
really gotten to see Baderian Low. I would expect him
to be into that competition as well, So good opportunity
for those guys. You know, two young guys, Jacobson and Bryant.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Have you talked a little bit about wide receiver position.
I just want to hammer down on that a little
bit because it seems kind of obvious who the top
five guys are maybe right now at this point, but
when you get into the second year guys, the rookies,
that's where it seems like the opportunities are going to
be not only Wednesday joint practices, but in the Friday
night Yeah, a lot.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Of teams nowadays carrying six receivers on their fifty three
man roster, and so who has the inside track right now?
I feel like it's Javon Baker based off of what
we've seen in the last couple of days. But does
that hold. Does e Fton Chisholm come into this conversation,
just Jalen Polk come into the conversation. We know kenner
Burn's probably not going to be out there with the
injury he's dealing with, So that's the name that we're
(04:02):
not necessarily going to see. But between that group that
I just named right there, they all feel like they're
probably competing for one spot, and it's a lot of
guys to compete for one spot. So what direction do
they want to go in? I think will probably come
down to skill set, you know. Do they want to
have a bigger body X receiver like a Jaymon Baker,
Do they want to go with the prototypical slot like
(04:22):
Efton Chisholm, And which direction does that end up going in?
We'll see. But I'm just fascinated to see who catches
passes from Drake, Like that's always the big thing in
these practices. If you are catching passes with Drake May,
and you're running routes with Diggs and Kyle Williams and
Pop Douglas and Booty. They probably have a plan for
you to be around. So we'll find out.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Tomorrow, ye, Paul, I don't know if we're going to
see Terry McLaurin. It's definitely not in the game, probably Friday,
probably not on Wednesday either, But I want to highlight
maybe in a Patriot, we don't know about that, but
I want to highlight the cornerback position, which Christian Gonzalez
has now been out for a week, not expecting to
see Carlton Davis. A lot of opportunity, opportunity at that
position right from the get go. You're gonna start with,
(05:01):
you know, DJ James, who had a good day yesterday.
Alex Austin has kind of been their their stalwart out there.
But it's gonna mean opportunities for guys like Kobe Minor,
you know, go right down the list, including that injury yesterday.
Marcellus Dialay, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I think that has a you know, potential impact. I
think he was taking some reps in the slot, you know,
behind Marcus Jones, So you know, I think that that
job is probably still open. They probably want somebody that
they feel good about playing inside other than Marcus Jones.
Maybe Isaiah Bolden gets, you know, some more opportunities to
do some of that stuff. We've seen him sort of
move around a little bit in the secondary, seen him
in the back end even at times. But yeah, DJ
(05:36):
James would seem to be a guy. He was getting
some of the reps today in the walkthrough, you know,
behind those other three guys that you already mentioned. You know,
Kobe Minor is the guy I noticed really for the
first time on Monday, sort of been around the ball
a little bit, celebrating some pass defenses. So maybe he's
starting to get his feet wet a little bit, you know,
(05:56):
one of the late round draft picks this in this class.
So opportunities definitely, for sure, some of those younger secondary corners,
there might be one job. And right, DJ James certainly
gotten a lot of reps you know, in those spots,
But I don't think it's a done deal by any means.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
That's a fun conversation because I think in Washington they're
talking about the receiver position behind Terry McLaurin and are
worried that they don't have a lot of depth at receiver.
So now with the Patriots corners, we're talking about their
depth corners because of the injuries the Gonzales and Davis.
So it's a fun little matchup there of two groups
that are going to be really competing to earn roles
(06:33):
and to earn roster spots on both sides of the balls.
So we've heard a lot about you know, Deebo Samuel
in the shape that he's in right now and whether
or not he says anything left, but behind that it's
it's not a lot right there in Washington of household
names besides Deebo McLaurin. So I'm interested to see what
that group looks like.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah, last point I want to talk about is just
Drake May the quarterback for me. I'm looking at the
last couple of practices. We've started to implement some situational
football end of minute too in its situation, we saw
them walking through that today. Anticipation is based on the
joint practices we've seen in the past that they'll have
at the end of the game, at the end of practice,
probably a you know, one possession kind of thing. Got
to have at the moment, and you know, guys, for me,
(07:12):
for Drake, he's looked really good early on in a
lot of these practices. He looks comfortable in seven on seven,
But I've found that as we've gotten into the more
competitive periods, he hasn't quite been able to stick that
dagger in that you know, we're really looking for. Going
back to the interception that we ended off the in
stadium practice, and I know we're questionable on that touchdown
yesterday that they ended the game, but still it was
(07:33):
kind of as evanport, I think, kind of a heave,
kind of a lucky you know, it wasn't maybe they
finished with a touchdown, but still I want to see
Drake May in this joint practice, be on the ball
and be really tight in these The number.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
One thing that I would be paying attention to. It's
a combination of what both of you guys have talked about,
you talking specifically about May and Evan bringing up the
receivers that are actually catching passes from May some of
those secondary targets, so those of them would be probably
first and foremost. I want to see some consistent on offense.
The pass protection I don't think has been really good
throughout the summer. I'd like to see that be better.
(08:06):
We all remember what happened last year against Philly, So
I want to see a dramatic improvement in that department.
And I like to see which of these receivers that
Evan talked about already starts to emerge. So let's say
I get an opportunity, there's four of us for one job.
I'm going to take the step forward and I'm going
to emerge as the leading candidate, and absolutely Drake May.
It starts with Drake May in his consistency.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah, I couldn't agree more. I feel like in these
practices we see some really high end flashes from Drake May,
dropping throws in the bucket and making some real highlight
real passes. But at the same time, the consistency of
being able to string plays together to drive the ball
down the field hasn't necessarily been there. And that's unfortunately,
for better or worse. That's kind of like his m
right now as a whole, even going back to North Carolina,
(08:49):
where you have four or five plays a game that
make your jaw drop, but can he consistently put it
together late in games especially, will be the question, but
mentioned the offensive line. We got to talk about it
a little bit. On the left side, you know, Will
Campbell and Jared Wilson against this commander's defensive line. Von
Miller's over there now, Javon Kinlaw, Deron Paine, Doran's armstrong
(09:09):
old friend Detrich Wise. You know, they do have some
rushers up front that can get after the quarterback Newton
second round pick last year, another guy, So it's more
I would say there's strength in Washington's the interior defensive line,
not necessarily the edge positions, which is why they brought
in von Miller. But still you want to see, especially
those two rookies Wilson and Will Campbell hold up in
(09:32):
this practice tomorrow and face some different matchups, different body types.
You don't necessarily have the tells, and you know them
as well as your own teammates. So let's see how
it looks.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, well, a lot to watch tomorrow during joint practices.
If you're able to make it down here to Foxborough,
it's a great take. If not, we'll be live on
the air with Patriots Unfiltered as practice starts off to
set the scene for you, and then of course we'll
be back after practice with a full Patriots Training Camp cast,
recapping everything that went down at joint practices. We'll see
you then,
On Tuesday, the Patriots dialed back to a walk through place,
but we're gonna break down the upcoming joint practice with
the Washington Commanders. Let's do it. Welcome to the Patriots
Training Camp cast, everybody. I'm Mike do So, joined by
Paul Perilo and Evan Lazar and guys. Today the eleventh
(00:22):
practice of training Camp. Dial Back to walk through seem
like they're really getting prepared for the Washington Commanders who
are gonna come in here tomorrow for a nice set
of joint practice. Is always fun to watch, But Paul,
I think maybe the biggest thing that stood out to me,
aside from some of the attendant stuff, is just getting
ready for Jad and Daniels in that offense.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
And listening to Jabrill Peppers talk about it a little bit,
it's a good test for them. It's a guy that
was obviously pretty dynamic as a rookie last year. Peppers
talked about wanting to make sure that the discipline, the
eyes were in the right place. They want to make
sure they maintain their containment on the outside. So I
do think it'll be a nice little test for the defense.
They will see a handful of mobile guys and you know,
(01:00):
obviously Daniels is as electric as any of them.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah, anything stand out to you today, Well, it would.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Just be interesting to see if some of the carryover
the reps that we saw in today's practice with you know,
Marcus Bryant still mixing in, Javon Baker mixing in a
little bit, and do those guys start to get opportunities
with Drake May and with the top offense. We'll see
you because daylight tomorrow is a day that Javon Baker
could make the team theoretically if he has a great
(01:24):
day against the Commanders. And you know, Latimore and Sanders
still in a good cornerback room in Washington. So I'm
just interested to see if that was like kind of
setting the table for giving those guys some of those
opportunities tomorrow to maybe make a push that we've already
seen a little bit here.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah, I want to set the table a little bit
for joint practices. But first let's just talk a little
about the attendance two guys who left practice yesterday, Marcellus
Dial as well as Jaquelin Roy. We're not out there today.
We did see Carlton Davis, who continues his pattern of
showing up for walkthroughs light participant. Wouldn't anticipate to see
him either tomorrow or Friday nights still, but overall, it
(02:01):
seems like some of the depth on the offensive line
that's where I'm most interested. Guys. You know, Citisow has
been out for a little while, Caden Wallace has been
out for a little while. They've had to sign it.
You know, they brought in Alec Lindstrom at center as well.
How much is Will Campbell gonna play? I'm not expecting
to see a lot of Morgan Moses, but when I
look at these tackle positions, we've seen, like you said,
have more of Marcus Bryant in recent days. Tray Jacobs
(02:22):
has continued to work in with that unit. Those are
two guys I'm just going to start with on the outside.
Bryant and Jacobs has two tackles who opportunity for a
swing tackle position, but also very valuable depth. And you
can tell through training camp the Patriots have kind of
been building towards having that depth by getting them reps
early on.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, I think the right tackle spot is interesting because
of exactly what you said. Morgan Moses has been out
there every day but I think lately we've seen less
and less of him in the actual team reps today
when they were doing the walkthrough stuff, there was a
lot of rotation between Jacobs and and Bryant the rookie,
who I love the phrase that Evan has tools the rookie,
(03:01):
you know, because he does have all the measurables. I
think you'll see a lot of those two guys on Wednesday,
and you know, I think there might be an opportunity
for a swing tackle if one of these guys can
can show that they can play both sides. We haven't
really gotten to see Baderian Low. I would expect him
to be into that competition as well, So good opportunity
for those guys. You know, two young guys, Jacobson and Bryant.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Have you talked a little bit about wide receiver position.
I just want to hammer down on that a little
bit because it seems kind of obvious who the top
five guys are maybe right now at this point, but
when you get into the second year guys, the rookies,
that's where it seems like the opportunities are going to
be not only Wednesday joint practices, but in the Friday
night Yeah, a lot.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Of teams nowadays carrying six receivers on their fifty three
man roster, and so who has the inside track right now?
I feel like it's Javon Baker based off of what
we've seen in the last couple of days. But does
that hold. Does e Fton Chisholm come into this conversation,
just Jalen Polk come into the conversation. We know kenner
Burn's probably not going to be out there with the
injury he's dealing with, So that's the name that we're
(04:02):
not necessarily going to see. But between that group that
I just named right there, they all feel like they're
probably competing for one spot, and it's a lot of
guys to compete for one spot. So what direction do
they want to go in? I think will probably come
down to skill set, you know. Do they want to
have a bigger body X receiver like a Jaymon Baker,
Do they want to go with the prototypical slot like
(04:22):
Efton Chisholm, And which direction does that end up going in?
We'll see. But I'm just fascinated to see who catches
passes from Drake, Like that's always the big thing in
these practices. If you are catching passes with Drake May,
and you're running routes with Diggs and Kyle Williams and
Pop Douglas and Booty. They probably have a plan for
you to be around. So we'll find out.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Tomorrow, ye, Paul, I don't know if we're going to
see Terry McLaurin. It's definitely not in the game, probably Friday,
probably not on Wednesday either, But I want to highlight
maybe in a Patriot, we don't know about that, but
I want to highlight the cornerback position, which Christian Gonzalez
has now been out for a week, not expecting to
see Carlton Davis. A lot of opportunity, opportunity at that
position right from the get go. You're gonna start with,
(05:01):
you know, DJ James, who had a good day yesterday.
Alex Austin has kind of been their their stalwart out there.
But it's gonna mean opportunities for guys like Kobe Minor,
you know, go right down the list, including that injury yesterday.
Marcellus Dialay, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I think that has a you know, potential impact. I
think he was taking some reps in the slot, you know,
behind Marcus Jones, So you know, I think that that
job is probably still open. They probably want somebody that
they feel good about playing inside other than Marcus Jones.
Maybe Isaiah Bolden gets, you know, some more opportunities to
do some of that stuff. We've seen him sort of
move around a little bit in the secondary, seen him
in the back end even at times. But yeah, DJ
(05:36):
James would seem to be a guy. He was getting
some of the reps today in the walkthrough, you know,
behind those other three guys that you already mentioned. You know,
Kobe Minor is the guy I noticed really for the
first time on Monday, sort of been around the ball
a little bit, celebrating some pass defenses. So maybe he's
starting to get his feet wet a little bit, you know,
(05:56):
one of the late round draft picks this in this class.
So opportunities definitely, for sure, some of those younger secondary corners,
there might be one job. And right, DJ James certainly
gotten a lot of reps you know, in those spots,
But I don't think it's a done deal by any means.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
That's a fun conversation because I think in Washington they're
talking about the receiver position behind Terry McLaurin and are
worried that they don't have a lot of depth at receiver.
So now with the Patriots corners, we're talking about their
depth corners because of the injuries the Gonzales and Davis.
So it's a fun little matchup there of two groups
that are going to be really competing to earn roles
(06:33):
and to earn roster spots on both sides of the balls.
So we've heard a lot about you know, Deebo Samuel
in the shape that he's in right now and whether
or not he says anything left, but behind that it's
it's not a lot right there in Washington of household
names besides Deebo McLaurin. So I'm interested to see what
that group looks like.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah, last point I want to talk about is just
Drake May the quarterback for me. I'm looking at the
last couple of practices. We've started to implement some situational
football end of minute too in its situation, we saw
them walking through that today. Anticipation is based on the
joint practices we've seen in the past that they'll have
at the end of the game, at the end of practice,
probably a you know, one possession kind of thing. Got
to have at the moment, and you know, guys, for me,
(07:12):
for Drake, he's looked really good early on in a
lot of these practices. He looks comfortable in seven on seven,
But I've found that as we've gotten into the more
competitive periods, he hasn't quite been able to stick that
dagger in that you know, we're really looking for. Going
back to the interception that we ended off the in
stadium practice, and I know we're questionable on that touchdown
yesterday that they ended the game, but still it was
(07:33):
kind of as evanport, I think, kind of a heave,
kind of a lucky you know, it wasn't maybe they
finished with a touchdown, but still I want to see
Drake May in this joint practice, be on the ball
and be really tight in these The number.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
One thing that I would be paying attention to. It's
a combination of what both of you guys have talked about,
you talking specifically about May and Evan bringing up the
receivers that are actually catching passes from May some of
those secondary targets, so those of them would be probably
first and foremost. I want to see some consistent on offense.
The pass protection I don't think has been really good
throughout the summer. I'd like to see that be better.
(08:06):
We all remember what happened last year against Philly, So
I want to see a dramatic improvement in that department.
And I like to see which of these receivers that
Evan talked about already starts to emerge. So let's say
I get an opportunity, there's four of us for one job.
I'm going to take the step forward and I'm going
to emerge as the leading candidate, and absolutely Drake May.
It starts with Drake May in his consistency.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah, I couldn't agree more. I feel like in these
practices we see some really high end flashes from Drake May,
dropping throws in the bucket and making some real highlight
real passes. But at the same time, the consistency of
being able to string plays together to drive the ball
down the field hasn't necessarily been there. And that's unfortunately,
for better or worse. That's kind of like his m
right now as a whole, even going back to North Carolina,
(08:49):
where you have four or five plays a game that
make your jaw drop, but can he consistently put it
together late in games especially, will be the question, but
mentioned the offensive line. We got to talk about it
a little bit. On the left side, you know, Will
Campbell and Jared Wilson against this commander's defensive line. Von
Miller's over there now, Javon Kinlaw, Deron Paine, Doran's armstrong
(09:09):
old friend Detrich Wise. You know, they do have some
rushers up front that can get after the quarterback Newton
second round pick last year, another guy, So it's more
I would say there's strength in Washington's the interior defensive line,
not necessarily the edge positions, which is why they brought
in von Miller. But still you want to see, especially
those two rookies Wilson and Will Campbell hold up in
(09:32):
this practice tomorrow and face some different matchups, different body types.
You don't necessarily have the tells, and you know them
as well as your own teammates. So let's see how
it looks.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, well, a lot to watch tomorrow during joint practices.
If you're able to make it down here to Foxborough,
it's a great take. If not, we'll be live on
the air with Patriots Unfiltered as practice starts off to
set the scene for you, and then of course we'll
be back after practice with a full Patriots Training Camp cast,
recapping everything that went down at joint practices. We'll see
you then,
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