697. UFO Disclosure & AI Future: Dean Alioto Steps In for Tim Ventura

Tim Ventura was unable to make our live show, but filmmaker Dean Alioto stepped in at the last minute. He discussed AI and the future of film and music, then turned to UFO disclosure — covering the September 9 Congressional Hearing witnesses, the video evidence presented, additional testimony, and what it all means for disclosure and beyond. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
No, something good.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Well, it's Martin. And if you're looking at the screen,
you'll see a image of our guest tonight, Tim Ventura.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Where are you? Tim? Where are you? So?

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Anyway, our guest has just magically well he was supposed
to be in I don't know, fifteen twenty minutes ago
and he's not. So what do you do in a
case like this? You call your friend Dean Alioto?

Speaker 3 (00:56):
What you're gonna call Dean Alioto? Hey? How are you doing? Dean? Thanks?

Speaker 4 (01:01):
Good?

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Well, it seems like, you know, just the other day
we had I was on Chris Lidos and I said, Hey,
do you want to come on Chris Letos?

Speaker 3 (01:09):
And Dean's like, yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
You're you're pretty much game to uh you know who
I got to say, who I used to do the
same thing that I just did to.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
You is Lee Spiegel. Lee Spiegel. It didn't matter.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
You know, we lost Lee Spiegel a couple of years ago,
now about this time of year, a little bit. Yeah, August,
I think anyway, it didn't matter. Lee was on the
train one time in New York City on the subway
and still did the show on his phone with Mead asked, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
But anyway, thank you, and maybe Tim will show up.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
I've been trying to reach him and so hopefully he
will show up. And you know, you can say if
you don't mind, you get fifty minutes or so. We'll
just keep going for for what we have at the time.
Here so and here we are. This is all impromptu,
so we will take questions from our from our listeners

(02:07):
and from our anyone want to throw some questions at us,
we will gladly, we will gladly answer them. But first
of all, let's talk.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
I guess recent news.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
I just saw that, you know, Jonathan Wygan, who is
on the show I interviewed in the second and third time.
He's on a guy named UFO GERBB it is and
you know, a young guy, and I try to commute.
I saw that somewhere that they were in he was
talking about being in touch with him. So I emailed
him and said, hey, you know, I have some information

(02:42):
that might help you whatever didn't didn't reply. But so
he's got to he's got to show up there and
it's got a lot of views, and he's doing it
this new type of way where they do the interview
and then I'm.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Not doing it this way.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
I like the way I do it, and I think
the people that watch the show, listen to the show,
they're okay with my format.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
But there's like this new type of format where we're
doing the interview.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
As far as I know, that's right. They do this
type of interview and then they cut it into all
types of other film other it's like a production, you know,
images film. They'll make a half hour interview last an hour,
you know, that type of situation.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
So it's it's.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Probably an hour or so interview time with Jonathan and
it's about probably it looks like two hours something like that.
But anyway, it's kind of a new method. It's working
for a lot of people. These people have, there's influencers
out there. It's a whole different world here on YouTube.
But I don't focus on YouTube because it's I do
appreciate everyone that it's in here right now, thank you

(03:49):
all for being here. But my audio is you know,
I just looked at the last twelve months and you know,
I had three quarters of a million download so my
audio last year, and that's not too shabby. That's that's
pretty good for audio. I mean, you know, I mean
it takes a long time to build that up.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
But I'm good for one hundred of those. So yeah,
thank you one hundred and fifty. Uh yeah views listens.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
That's right. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
But anyway, I like doing you know, I personally, I'm
too lazy to edit.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
I like just doing it live. It's in the can,
it's done.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
I figured that out about I don't know, seven or
eight years ago. I can't remember exactly when I just said, hey,
I did I did one show live. It got me
on my toast because you can't you know, there's no retakes.
So and when I was recording, you know, like oops,
or I said this wrong or didn't have that information,
look it up or whatever.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
And you know what I mean. Now it's just you
people that are listening. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
You just get whatever whatever you get, and I do
appreciate that you appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Well, that's quite the same there, Martin.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yeah, it was very convoluted.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yeah, and uh so let's just talk about a couple
of things. First of all, I'll never be able to
thank you enough for filling in when I had my
heart surgery and that was you know, that's coming up
on And just a couple of weeks. It'll be three
years ago. Wow, And you filled in and you did
a wonderful job. People loved you, and you brought in

(05:26):
some really fun guests and and you did a great job.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
And I would like.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
You to talk about kind of what how that inspired
you to do this comedy. Can you talk a little
bit about that?

Speaker 1 (05:38):
No, No, not at all. Yes, yeah, so.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
Pretty much that I I had filled in for a
month and you have such a great audience.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
It was it was very easy to do because, uh,
you know, you.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
Set up such a great infrastructure and and fan base
that one could roll into it.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yeah. So I did that for about a month. I
think it was month or more.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
Yeah, And then unfortunately, I was encouraged to do my
own podcast, and so I did a whole bunch of research,
like four months, maybe six months of research on it.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
And then finally my girlfriend looked over at me.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
One day, she saw me at my desk and said,
you know, Ali, and she's like, bab, what are you doing?
And I go, I'm doing research for my you know podcast.
I got to make sure that I come out and
I hit the right subscribers and get to that one
hundred k and blah, blah blah, and she's like, no,
why are you doing this? And I said, well, it's
gonna be fun, That's why I'm doing this. I said,

(06:47):
you know, browse furrowed and everything. She says, Yeah, it
doesn't look fun to me. And I thought I could
retort with that, or I could actually consider that. And
what came back, or what popped in my head was Yeah,
this isn't the way to do this, and this isn't
a good motivation to be all about, you know, getting

(07:07):
the subscribers and everything the end result when it should
really be about because we can sense that a million
miles away fun, interesting and curiosity that needs to be
the main tip of your spear when you're going to,
you know, take a stab at this. And so I
went cold turkey right away. I said, Okay, I'm not
ready to do this. Maybe someday, but not now. And

(07:29):
so I stopped. But I had lost like almost half
a year of my time doing this research.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
And so what happened was the DGA WGA.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
And SAG strikes role coming and I'm a director in
the Directors Guild, and so I knew that was coming,
and I needed to have something to shoot and I thought,
oh my god, that's that would be fun to write
about a young influencer who is obsessed with getting subscribers
to the point that he's willing to make a Faustian bargain.
And what if instead of him being someone who is,

(08:00):
you know, into the paranormal, he's a debunker.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Let's let's give that guy.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
You know, this dilemma and see what he does with it.
And then so it's basically someone who you know, likes
to take the piss out of people. He has them
on the show and he ridicules them, the guests and
stuff who believe in it, and then he discovers the
afterlife actually exists, but it's not what he thought it was.
And so it's a dark comedy horror. And our last

(08:27):
festival that we're hitting is in Manchester, that's going to
be next month and that's at the Dead and Suid
Buried in Manchester.

Speaker 5 (08:37):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
And yeah, I was at being received great.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
We we've we were at Horrorhound, which is one of
the biggest UFO festival conventions. Uh and we won eight
out of twelve awards, including the Audience Award. And and
so we're looking at a theatrical release hopefully early next year.
And yeah, it's you know, it's funny the way that

(09:04):
this works. Everyone you know who's considered, you know, you
guys out there that have considered making a movie, let
me just tell you that making the movie is the
third most difficult thing. The second most difficult thing is
raising the money to make it, and then the first
premiere difficult difficulty is getting the film distributed and making

(09:26):
sure that it gets to you guys, gets to the audience.
Because every film, the biggest piece of crap film is
someone's favorite film that we do watch once a week.
That's just the fact, and so you want to get
it to the audience and you know, give it a
healthy berth. So anyway, because of your podcast filling in
for you, that that film is in existence and Dave

(09:49):
Foley is in it.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
It's called the Last Podcast, by the way, the Last Podcast.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
And this young guy who's on Dexter Resurrection Resurrected. Yeah,
I think it's resurrected. He's uh, he's a regular on it.
His name is Eric Tabak. He's awesome. So is the
other actor.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Who I can't tell you who he plays, but.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
Uh, yeah, Gabriel. That's Gabriel Rush and then Kai Kane
is the girlfriend. Anyway, enough about that, but yeah, so
that that all came because of your heart, dude, all
because of your heart.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Your big heart.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Yeah yeah, it's still ticking. So yeah, but still ever
since you did that a lot of times, you know,
I'll still get email every once and on where's Dean?
You should have Dean on more so anyway, but I'm
so glad you just happened to be available. I mean,
I still haven't heard anything from Tim our guests tonight,
so we'll just we'll just continue on. He may or

(10:52):
may not show up. Every once in a while. Will
happen even though I say Eastern time. Now, if it's
someone in another country, I always put Eastern time, same
as New York City, and that's that really works with
you know, my international guests. But you know, Tim is
I believe in California, but I'm not positive. But anyway,

(11:15):
it is what it is. I'll just uh what I'm
going to do. We get done the show, and we'll
call it something else than what I haven't listed at
We're not going to be talking about futurism, although I
don't know if you even look into anything. You know,
I wanted to talk a little bit about AI and
you know how that's changing everything. But since I have
you on, since you are a filmmaker, you know, I

(11:36):
know that you you have a lot of animations done
for your for your films, like this last one that
that's out right now on Amazon. So how is that
going to affect you? Because you I'm going to say,
within a year or two already you can drop something
into the text into AI and have a creative video.

(12:00):
It's not so good right now, but you watch what
happens within a year. I mean, these poor animators they're
going to be they can't survive. I don't see how
they could, you know, because you can just drop it in,
pay forty dollars a month for the service, drop it
in and just have it do all your animations.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
Yeah, so what's coming is when you make a doc,
you'll be able to type in Sacaro, New Mexico, nineteen
sixty four and it'll spit out a whole sequence of
the event.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
And no, that's a total joke. It's not that easy.
It's probably it will be. It will be.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
It will literally why not, because it's going to go
and scour the Internet and pull together all of the scenarios,
all the different versions of the story, which is all
pretty much the same, and then spit out something with
shots and everything else. No, I'm kind of I mean,
all the animation in my film is hand drawn, so
it's not like you're using a program or even you know,

(13:05):
creating cells where it is literally drawn each frame. And
then it's you know, so you have an illustrator, then
you have an animator who animates all the drawings and stuff,
and so it's quite a lengthy process, but you you know,
you can tell the difference and it and it looks good.
It's a cut above. But more importantly, you can really

(13:27):
drill down into those little details and stuff. Like the
new documentary Life Beyond Earth. We get into the Sacara,
New Mexico story.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
And you see everything. I mean, you know, you see.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
Lani Zamora coming out, you see the patrol car, you
see what he looked like. So it's not an actor
doing a recreation, it's actually taking photographs of him and
drawing it to his full on likeness at his age
back then. So it's it's a really cool way to
convey stories. But getting back to AI, it is getting there.
I just did a ninety minute lecture at Phenomicon, and

(14:07):
and I for some of the things that I wanted
I couldn't find online. And I had literally two weeks
to pull together this whole thing for this convention, and
so I used AI to pull together some illustrations and
did some augmenting on those. I do think that, you know,
ultimately these are going to be tools for people. But

(14:30):
you know, it's I don't know how you're going to
deny it. I don't know how you're going to suppress
it when you know, even in school doing homework where
you want to be able to do a PowerPoint, which
kids do by the way, especially in college, you want
to do that. This is a way to really get
into it and to show it. The whole thing is
we want to convey the ideas that we haven't been

(14:50):
able to show you.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
This is what this looked like.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
But you have to do a lot of prompting and
everything else to really, you know, nail that image. But
it's the this weird moral thing, man, I don't you know,
it's it's it's a little bit of a dilemma right now.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
But I think it'll it'll sort itself out.

Speaker 6 (15:10):
Well, I got to tell you this is a uh,
it's it's difficult to always do the audio blogs. And
there was like, you know Charles Lear who does writes
the blogs. You know, he he basically works for the show,
you know, putting these things out every single week of
these really nice historic blogs. And then he also does

(15:31):
an audio blog.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
And so I heard some I don't know, it sounded
like differences in when he's editing. So I got him
a new mic exactly like the one that I bought
you when you were podcasting, the same brand and everything.
So and then it's still you know. Then I realized
that he's just the way he's doing his editing. He

(15:54):
spends a lot of time editing. So there was one
blog that he missed or whatever. So what I did is,
I I'm working with Jack UFO Jack who.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Helps me out.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
He's in chat right now, but he helps me out.
And then he like, we decided, well let's give this
one a try, and we put the text in AI
and the AI read it and then also did images
and put out the audio blog, and people disliked it
very much. They were very upset. Yeah, so I ended

(16:28):
up deleting you know, the audio blog and you know,
and then I'm just putting up Charles. Now Charles is reading,
and I'm experimenting with different things. Yeah, you know, for
images and videos. And also I had drawings. I had
AI create drawings for one of the the audio blogs.
But yeah, I mean everything's changing and leaps and bounds,

(16:49):
and I think, you know, before we know it, it's
things are just gonna be made very very simple. And
another thing about AI, you know, there was a scenario
where they were it's headed and all that. So they
had three different types of ways to do a diagnosis

(17:10):
of some data. I think it might have been let's
say it was X rays, I'm not really sure, but
so they did like a test on how accurate they
are when it has a doctor by himself, a doctor
using AI tools, or just AI. And guess what one
was the most accurate AI just AI. Yeah, that's pretty scary.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
Well, we've been promised the Tricorder Star Trek Tricorder for
decades and it's still not here. It's close, but it's
still not here. There are certain things that you just
can't deny it's going to be better. I mean, again,
there's two separate things. One is medicine science, which yes,
let's lean into that because we do need solves for

(17:56):
a lot of issues, especially climate change, global warming. But
as far as artists go, to give you an idea
of how bad it is within the art industry, it's
not as bad with regards to to doing animation stuff
as much as it's horrendous for music. There's a guy

(18:17):
ri Rick Bato b et O, I believe if you
get a chance to check him out on YouTube Badass
all about Music. He's got great music guests on He's
musician phenomenal and he literally created this artist and he
did it.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
He created a name for it.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
He said, give me a name that's like a hipster
name of someone who's in their twenty an artist, and boom,
it popped up the name, and it popped up an.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Image of this person. Said give me this voice. Gave
you the voice, he said.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
Write to AI, write me a song that's about traveling
and missing you know, home, and put desert themes in it.
And it kicked out this and it was in the
tone of like the Eagles or whatever, and it kicked
out this highly credible song.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
And so now if you go to Spotify.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
You see the image, the name and the song and
all the music was all done in Ai.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
So yeah, and and the thing is, my.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
Daughter's in the music industry and her boyfriend is on
always on tour, and either the life experience, nothing beats it.
And I think that there's a lot of people who,
you know, music lovers who are much more.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Purist than they are in any other field.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
I mean, vinyls came back, thank god, because of millennials,
and so it's just that tactile, you know thing. But
it's it's scary because you know you're gonna have a studio,
which what happens Spotify right now is creating these artists, right,
a bevy of artists that are fake, and they're selling

(19:48):
it to people like they're real, and they're getting all
the profits from that. So they're phasing out all the
indies because all the algorithms are going to that and
they're they're rigging the game.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
So it's it's it's bad in that way, you know.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yeah, imagine it'll hit just about anything. So I'm just
going to tell you the other day, this is only
visual for everyone that's watching on YouTube. I mean, I
could put a put an image in the show notes
to the text or whatever. But so I went into
chat GPT and because I have Travis Walton coming up,
and to get Travis Walton to send you anything or

(20:24):
respond to you, I have actually his neighbors helping me
to make sure he's on next Thursday week from tonight
at eight pm, Travis Walton will be here, cross your fingers.
So anyway, I got frustrated because I couldn't get any
new picture to create a thumbnail from him.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
So I said to chat GPT.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
I have the premium level, whatever that is, and so
I said to create a graphic for YouTube for me
with Travis Walton kind of looking up at a UFO.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
And I prompted it and it.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Created it and it was like, eh, so I found
a picture kind of a recent picture of Travis. So
then I popped it into it and says, make Travis
look more like he really does right here in this picture,
and I'm going to show that to you.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Now, this is incredible. Look at that.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
I mean, isn't that something? And again it's just for
people that are watching this visually.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
But there you go. I just told Chet.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
You know when you and I first went in twenty eighteen,
or when I first went in twenty eighteen to the
International UFL Congress Convention.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Oh yeah, that would be a painting that someone there
did and was selling. Would sell like hotcakes.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
I also saw a picture again I'm going to date myself,
but Blondie, the band Blondie, Oh yeah, Deborah Harry, the
lead singer. Yeah, so she did a song the tide
is high, blah blah blah. And so someone did the
same thing and they had her in a grocery store

(21:59):
reaching up for the tide but the tide like a
box of tide detergent. Oh my god, you know what
I'm doing here was the caption, something like that.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yeah, dude, it's so.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Wait a minute, you just mentioned Phoenix. That's where that's
where we met. Yeah, at the Phoenix and yeah. So
I just pulled up the picture. Unfortunately won't load it up.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
That's too bad. I thought it was.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah, I don't know what, maybe the size or something good.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Anyway, I'll uh.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
But anyway, that that was what how many years ago?
Was that there was two thousand.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
So that would have been seven years ago. Seven years ago?

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Yeah, wow, in February. February.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, and that's too bad. COVID kind of made that
kind of go away right now. Maybe it'll come back,
you know, Karen, Karen might be able to bring that back. Yeah, okay,
this is we met and this was five minutes later.
Oh my god, a lot of visuals for everyone here tonight.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
That that should have been my tender profile. I'd still
be single, that's right.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
I had that, and you wish you were all you
said that.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah, don't go there, get me in trouble bastard.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
So anyway, I don't know if we have any questions.
This is all impromptu. I still have not heard from
our guests.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Wait, am I wearing the same shirt in that picture?

Speaker 3 (23:36):
Oh my god?

Speaker 2 (23:36):
That would be hilarious. Oh we have we have a
very no.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Okay, that's too bad.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
My powers of observation are frightening.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah, uh so we have a very good uh A
question person? That what am I trying to say here?
She gives really good questions? What does she have for
us tonight? Uh so?

Speaker 3 (23:59):
It's hi there, Mendy. How are you? She talks about music?

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yes, Ai, I imagine AI would be soulless, you know,
because that's something I don't care if it's a painting.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
I don't care if it's music.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
When you have lose that human element, you know, there's
something that I think that is subtle.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
But but is there.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
When it when there's a human element to it?

Speaker 1 (24:26):
I do AI music is like this.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
Imagine a bunch of great artists, musicians, and then they
are partying a little too hard and they throw up,
and then someone scoops up all of that.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
That's that's not a picture.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
So uh yeah, I don't I can tell, don't visualize
that everything.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
So here's a question for us. But I don't know.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
I tried to look at this why it says did
we see the new video of the UFO that was
dug up in Russia. Now here's another thing. There's so
many fakes right now. There's someone sent me about this Uganda.
Someone that is not in the UFO world but knows
I do a show on UFO sent me a video

(25:13):
of this guy.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
I think it's.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Instagram and he's these at this site where they're uncovering
a pyramid shaped thing with this weird you know, carvings
on it.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
And then.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
What am I trying to say, sarcophagus of with an
alien's head on it, and you know, acting like this
is like really a really big find. It's going to
change the world and all that. So you know, you
have to do what you have to do today, no
matter what it is. I don't care what it is.
You have to source everything. You have to look what
is the source, what is the providence proveance?

Speaker 3 (25:52):
Yeah, so anyway, uh so it ends.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
But there's a lot of articles out there because this
guy has two hundred and fifty thousand subscribers on Instagram
and so he gets a lot of you know, attention,
but there's it's a dead end. You know, it just goes,
it goes to him and that's it. And but but
you know the old saying, whatever belief half of what
you however, that goes half what you see somewha you

(26:20):
hear or whatever it is. It's like you can't believe
anything you see today or very very little mean Yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
I mean it kind of comes down to who is
reporting it. Because here's the thing. All the major publications
out there need stories, and they'll jump all over UFO
stories if they're legit. So every time I get some
see something going around the internet, if it gets through

(26:48):
or makes me question my analysis of it because I'm
a filmmaker. I'm you know, doing a lot of effects
and stuff and have a good idea of that. If
it's still kind of questionable, I see what shakes out.
Some is going to grab that stir and go with it.
But literally, the few bits of footage that has actually
lasted has been things that are easily traceable to the

(27:09):
Navy or to some other branch or you know, to
to things a police officer where you can actually see
not all just you know, military officers, but where you
can you can reverse engineer it. And so you know,
like when it comes to giants in Peru and all
this stuff. You know, we've got the uh, the boga

(27:32):
booga ball Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, and you know sphere,
the buga sphere is yeah, and I hate to I
hate to say it, but I'm going to force myself
to say it anyway, and that is unfortunately, when Haimi
is involved.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
You've got to really look at something carefully. That's all.
That's all I'm going to say.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah, And it's really a shame because there's enough real
legitimate things out there that are amazing that it's unnecessary.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
Well again, it comes down to this, guys, at the
end of the day, if it can be replicated, because
I hear that all the time.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Oh you can't replicate the etchings. Yeah you can.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
Yeah, you can go to go to an art show
and you'll see that type of acid etchings and stuff.
All of it can be replicated. So if it can,
then it's from here end a story. And they haven't
been able to replicate the temperature changing and the water
all that stuff hasn't been able to be replicable.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
And so I go to Aukham's razor.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
It's like, if if there is another reason for this
that's prosaic, we got to go with that something that
is truly phenomenal.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
It's it's gonna shine, man, It's going to be like
a diamond. Yeah, And so you know, don't I try not.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
To be dismissed any of anything, but because I really
want that diamond. I am a romantic. I really believe
that there is you know, amazing stuff out there for
us discover. But you know, again, you have to just
wait and go, Okay if that you know, It's like
I gave this lecture and I was talking about the Onanaki.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
There's a sacred cal for youa.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
We were seated by the Onanaki. Really, sitchen, do you
believe that? No, I just pulled from some other things
and I linked it, even himself, even he you know,
had said that, and so my big thing is, okay,
so if they seated us and created us, they kind
of screw it.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Up because.

Speaker 4 (29:31):
Just turn on the news, just look on social media
the crazy, stupid, dumb stuff that humans are doing.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
And so we can.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
Breed certain traits into and out of dogs. You're telling
me that the Aanaky you couldn't have bread those things
out or can't go and do it like a checkup.
So it's just again the end result. As much as
I want to believe that and everything, that.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Would be really cool.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
And I did like Prometheus, you know, really Scott's film
aspects of it, especially the opening scene with us being seated.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
That's that's awesome sci fi. But it's still just sci fi.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
Mmmmmm hm.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
So I'd like to talk to you a little bit
about because we, like I said, the other day, all
of a sudden I grabbed you and said, let's be
on Chris Lido's show. And you know, we watched the
hearing live and then we ended up, you know, chatting afterwards,
so I'd like to talk to you a little bit
about that. And you were the first one in the
group of what was seven people together or maybe five

(30:30):
or six, I can't remember, but you were the first
one to say, hey, the the the bomb didn't detonate,
the missile did not detonate, and Chris, you know, used
the right term, it did not fuse. But you know,
so you're the first one to see that ends up.
You know, spoiler alert everyone, it's most likely a balloon.
Here's the here's the video here of this thing, and

(30:53):
it shows that, you know, and it's all about the angle. Now,
I want to say that when it comes to things
like this, I'm just really surprised that this was not vetted.
Someone gave it to Burlson just before the hearing, and
then you what did we hear? Oh yeah, someone gave
that to Lou Alizondo just before he was to speak,

(31:16):
and some you know, that happened a couple of times.
So it's almost like there's some.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Who wasn't there, right, Lou.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Was not there.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
This has nothing to do with Lou, but Lou was speaking,
you know, like I don't know, six months ago, seven
months ago and held up this picture that looked like
a UFO ended up being like a crop circle type
of situation or something. But anyway, he messed up because
he didn't vet the picture before someone gave it to him,
right before he took their word for it. Same thing

(31:45):
with this Burlson. Let that video get out there, ends
up being a great fodder for the skeptics to attack
and say, you people don't know what you're doing. And
the whole time Wiggins is there, Chief Wiggins who is
an active service member, and he shows this wonderful video
that you know, I guess he came on originally on

(32:07):
Corbella nap and shows this great video of this tic
tac it's pretty focused in a flair video and goes off.
They have eyewitness testimony, they have data. This happened in
twenty twenty three, and AARO never investigated it. They had
all the things they could use, and they just shied

(32:28):
away from it, never even contemplated looking at as far
as I know, you know, which is is kind of
ridiculous because Kirkpatrick used to say, well, it's because you know,
we'll look at the recent ones because we can get
data from them. Well, that was a perfect opportunity. They
had visual they had radar, they had flair videos, and

(32:50):
there was some other type of sensors and you know
it was all there.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
And yeah, yeah, I mean again, when you look at
the first time you look at it, we were all
punched in the gut. And then it's kind of like, okay,
now let's take a look at this and let's kick
the tires, because right now we've barely grazed one tire,
as I use the analogy during that podcast. But no,
it's I mean you watch it and there it is.

(33:16):
It's it's holding its shape and then it gets hit
and look at it. I mean, that's clearly moving like
a balloone. It's deflating, it's wandering down and.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
We're seeing it from above most likely.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
Yes, we can't tell how far down it's it's traveling.
Looks like it's staying up and it's not going down.
But if you're looking at it directly with the same
line of sight, it's going to seem like it's still
holding its level, but it's moving away.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
You just can't judge it.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Now that UFO podcast, Andy had a weapons person on
his show I listened to it because it was about
this and that weapons person does work with the hell
what's it called hell fire?

Speaker 3 (34:04):
No, that type of missile.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, I can't think of the name of it. Anyway,
he works with those. He wanted to remain anonymous, but
he really knew his stuff, so I have no doubt
at all he was who he said he was. But anyway,
he basically said he believes that was a training mission. Now,
the balloon could have been sitting perfectly still and the drone.

(34:29):
The movement of the drone makes it look like it's
a moving object. But I mean that's the parallax. So
whatever they call that, that's probably that type of situation.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Well, I see someone here at dead fish cheese spread.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
Oh yes, I threw up a little bit in the
back of my throat reading that. Are you serious? You
need to pop a balloon and see what it looks like.
If the balloon is big enough, then you pop it.
It doesn't pop into cinegrade, especially milar balloons. They don't
if you tear a hole.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Looking at the Chinese all out, what was that?

Speaker 5 (35:08):
Yeah, I actually am doing this while they shot the balloon,
it's coming down.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
They shot the balloon.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
It's just that's me talcic, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
So you see this thing slowly coming down and moving.
And originally when they were shooting trying to shoot down
the balloons, some of these spy balloons, they they wouldn't fuse,
it wouldn't go active, yeah, because it would go right
to it because it was so light. And so this
missile just goes, you know, right right past it, right

(35:39):
through it.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
And so again, if there is a chance that this could.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
Be that, I'm not saying with certainty, guys, but if
there is a chance that it is that, then that wins.
At the end of the day, we have to make
a ruling on it that wins just because we want
it to be a UFO, and then let's talk about it.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
If it is a UFO. So this thing's move, it's
holding its shape.

Speaker 4 (36:01):
Then it gets hit and a few pieces break off,
and now it's wobbling and it's moving and it's and
it's acting like it's no longer in control of its structure.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
So you know, we can munch on that for a second.
So what would that mean.

Speaker 4 (36:17):
I haven't heard anyone describe a UFO as being something
that when it hits, it all gets jacked out of shape.
I've heard heard that it will sometimes form around the object,
like an underwater submersible object.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
I heard a story firsthand from that.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
But it's if it's a craft and it's hit, I mean, God,
I don't like talking with complete certainty, but I'm looking
at that and I'm going, yeah, that's a big miler
balloon or some other material, and it's it's moving in
the way that it looks like it's collapsing and it's
slowly going to be, you know, deflating. But it's not

(36:55):
going to be a burst and explosion. It's not like
you take a pin to a balloon that you go,
you know, a clown, you know, shapes it, mix it
into a shape of a poodle.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
All right.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
I just want to for this person here, so you know,
there's a lot of new listeners, but the listeners that
happened around when the Chinese balloon was shot down, I
just have to tell the story real quick. So Donna
and I was in Myrtle Beach where this happened, and
basically got out of the car to talk to a

(37:26):
real estate agent and he said, well, I think he
says it right.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
Here looking at the Chinese.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Get all out, and when.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
It gets over the ocean, they're sending one from Virginia.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
That's the Chinese balloon. I said, Yeah, it looks like
the Chinese balloon. He says, it is the Chinese balloon.
And if you watch this thing, looking at the Chinese,
get all out, and when.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
It gets over the ocean, they're sending one from Virginia
that will go up.

Speaker 5 (37:54):
Fighter jets coming to look at it.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Ship from.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
This is really the balloon, I said, fighter jets coming
to look at it. And then all of a sudden
we watch it go boom, you know, and we.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
Just yeah, I actually am doing this while they shot
the balloon.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
It's coming down.

Speaker 4 (38:19):
Yeah, so that didn't burst, That didn't explode. Yeah, it's
you know, making its way down. I'm sure if you
were to look at it, it would be a it
would no longer hold its you know, round shape. It
would be probably going with the wind and be more
malleable because the air has now got you know, the
balloon itself. The structure is now having wind go inside
it and everything, so it's going to have it be
misshapen like that.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
Yeah, it was. It was sixty five thousand feet and.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
We sat there and watched it a good ten or
fifteen minutes falling. Yeah, and we kept seeing sparkling, and
the sparkling ended up being like solar panels that were
kind of blown apart.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (38:55):
And that's what that looks like. That there looks like
three solar panels. I didn't say that they broke off
of that. As far as the balloon itself, that those
those are pieces from the balloon.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
It's the structure of it.

Speaker 4 (39:07):
So it looks like there's three equal size objects that
came off this thing when it hit it that are sparkling.
But it looks like it's doing it's you know, descent
after it. But anyway, that's just you know, again my opinion. Man,
that's just like your opinion.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Just a couple couple more things up, you know. I
felt really bad for Dylan Borland who said that his
you know, his unemployment. Yeah, he was running out, you know,
very quickly and being blackballed.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
He was at that hearing.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
He was one of the whistleblowers or witnesses who said
that he saw a triangular UFO about one hundred feet
above him, about one hundred feet away he thought it
was I can't remember what he said, like one hundred
yards by I can't really remember the size, but also
that the he saw a sharp edge to it, and

(40:03):
that it looked like a liquid, which I thought was
very interesting, sort of like like a black moving liquid
underneath the surface lights in each corner, light in the center.
His cell phone basically died, heated up really hot and
then basically died. And then this is the crazy thing

(40:25):
that I think he said, All of a sudden, it
just in an instant, it shot up to like commercial
jet height, which is, you know, thirty thousand plus feet
where he could see just the little dot of the
light itself that was in the center because I was
a bigger light and there was no air displacement. There
was no sonic boom, nothing, no sound. I don't think

(40:46):
he said there made a sound.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Maybe he di's no sound. And he also said he
felt an electric charge all around.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Right, like lightning like the yeah, yep, and I know
what that's like.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
I had a like and.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Come right into a place one time, and the air
smelled actually really wonderful. Right after here's a Hey, Shane,
Shane's from down under. H been looking been in chat
and been communicating with Shane for at least ten years.
Burlson wants to believe that it affects his better judgment.

(41:22):
Oh believe, Oh I get it, I get I'm sorry.
Let me rephrase that. Burlson wants to believe and I
do believe he's right about this and that affects his
better judgment. It's definitely not something that needed to be
included in the hearing and set short notice in limited time.
That's the thing I think if anyone comes in with
something to show, Okay, I got this for you, you know,

(41:43):
show it, don't do it.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
You know, just that was a big mistake.

Speaker 4 (41:49):
Let me just say something there shine down under.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah, they don't com me to that.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
That's the worst. That's that was probably pretty bad walking
down Shane. No, you know, Shane, you can reply, Shane,
you can reply.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
Was that a really that was a really.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Bad zero to ten Shane rate me? Yeah, okay, but anyway,
was your question for wire in a second?

Speaker 4 (42:12):
If you don't, yeah, no, last minute things popping in,
that's that's you're you're setting people up. That's kind of
not fair to do that. It's a little bit weird
at the timing of that. Yeah, yeah, and that's as
I mentioned. I think I might have confused you, but
that did.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
He says, that was that wasn't as bad as I've heard.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
All Right, that's good, thank you, Shane. Yeah, but that
doesn't mean you have to do it again.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
So, uh, there's more.

Speaker 4 (42:45):
There's ten minutes of material I have here. I have
a question Craig, and I was calm, Craig, how's the
cock going, Craig?

Speaker 1 (42:54):
He doesn't. He doesn't like that either.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
All right, that's axt question. Yeah, question for both of us.
What do you think the alien perspective is of us currently?
Isn't that the name of your movie?

Speaker 1 (43:06):
That is the name of my movie that was released
a few months ago.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Wow, Yeah, you had to change the name to protect
the innocent or something.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
You had to change the name, right.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
Yeah, Terrence, we're gonna have to uh, I'm gonna have
to ding you for copyright protection. Your question is going
to cost you about one hundred and fifty penalty.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
What's the next step for disclosure? I don't know, you know,
it seems like to me if I if I was
to answer that.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
That part, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
You know, when you say, Terrence, when you say, what's
the alien perspective of us? Now you're thinking like a human.
So we have absolutely no idea how they think and
whatever it is Nhi, if you want to say, just
no us human, whatever it is that is piloting these

(44:03):
things or could be visiting us in whatever way they're
visiting us. We tend to, you know, think that they
might be thinking like us, but they may have a
total different way of thinking, and maybe that's one of
the reasons we don't connect with them. But as far
as the next step for disclosure, I'm kind of giving

(44:28):
up on that portion. Just I'm just flowing with it.
Whatever happens happens, because I've gotten excited thinking that the
needle has moved, We're going to get there, and then
it's always something holding us back. I don't think, you know,
it would be nice. What is getting over the goalposts?
Is that like absolute proof even if we had it,

(44:50):
how much of the world would believe it was real?
You know, there's a lot to go through. All right,
now it's your turn, Deem.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
Sorry, I wasn't paying attention. Would you say it was
a question?

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Just read the question?

Speaker 4 (45:01):
Okay, So, having done a documentary The Alien Perspective, Part
one and two. It is apparent that if you want
to understand what the alien perspective is, what you need
to do is like on the crime shows I worked
on profile what an alien would be like, you're profiling

(45:22):
a criminal.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Why do they you know?

Speaker 4 (45:24):
What's the motivation behind their crimes? And how we do
that with the alien phenomenon is we project ourselves out
into the future when we have complete control over all technology.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
I mean, we're we're zero point zero seven.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
Type one species which is able to pull in energy
from its planet. Basically I'm simplifying, we are so far
from a type four or three species they believe that
there's actually possibly Type five species that it's again, it's
kind of like us going back I guessquivalent would be

(46:00):
us going back to Neanderthals or the cavemen and chromagnants
and trying to have a conversation with them and show
the technology and everything.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
Yes, we can reason and everything else, but at the
end of the.

Speaker 4 (46:13):
Day, do you, guys, honest question, do you do you
trust us with the technology that they have that we've
heard that they have. Do you trust that we would
do the right thing by that. So I think the
alien's perspective of us is that they're very cautious of us,

(46:33):
and probably, you know, there's got to be a reason
why they knock us out or have a you know,
paralyze us.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
When if you go by the experiencers experience, why.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
They make us incapacitated because we're dangerous, it's er yeah
and so and so It's kind of like if you
were to say, if they were if the aliens were saying,
I'm going off on a tangent er, but if they were
to say, Hey, we need to get for some hybrid program,
we need to get samples and stuff, and would you
guys be willing to do it? I would venture that

(47:05):
there would be a line from here, you know, from
Starbucks in California, Los Angeles to Mickey D's and Delaware
of people who would say, hell, yeah, I would love.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
To meet you and do that. And I mean people
do what is it testing.

Speaker 4 (47:25):
In college and stuff to pay for their part of
a study, to get paid to cover some of their tuition.
I mean Robert Rodriguez made El Mariacci for seven thousand
dollars by doing that being a test subject. So I
think the curiosity and everything. You know, I think that
they don't have to do that, but there's a reason

(47:46):
why they're coming and doing it against our will, if
you will.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
I also think that you know, you sort of touched
on this, but anything that we have, any technology that
we have, is used primarily first thoughts. Look what happened
when they split the atom. First thought, well, that creates
a lot of energy. Oh boy, this is a bomb.
They didn't even have to say it out loud. All

(48:12):
these there was some convention, physics convention where there were
all these people sitting there and understood what they were
talking about, and they all left to go to their
labs because they knew that what the implications were and
that this thing first thing they thought of as a bomb.
And that's what I would say about any technology that

(48:34):
we if we got new technology, that would be the
first thing that at least the defense Department or the
most people, you know, countries in the world will very
first look into it. And any any way to you know,
kill the masses, you know, be in control.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Yeah, well that's it.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
If I were again, sorry to get back to actually
be pointed about my answer on that question, which is
a great question. Imagine you're all powerful, all powerful, and
you come across our planet. You see the blue marble.
You're getting closer and closer, and then you're hovering like
a drone, one of those drones that we use in movies,

(49:14):
not the drones to kill, and you're moving along all
the different topography, all the different cities, all the different communities.
And you see, if you're going over to Gaza, you
see nightmare situation. You're going over Sudan night you see
all this stuff going on. You see how we are
still still not a high mentality. And so we see

(49:35):
that not only are people hoarding money. Elon Musk was
offered a trillion dollars by his board. If he hits
certain benchmarks, he'll be the first trillionaire. How much of
that do you think he's going to be donating to
help poverty, to be helping other people building homes. Not much,
And so based on what he's done or hasn't done

(49:56):
in the past, and so not to harp just on him,
but tons of people are taking their money and they're
doing things like buying rockets, you know, creating things where
they put on a cowboy hat with a rocket in
the shape of a you know what, going up into space.
It's it's ridiculous and so and then there's people who
root for them. So we're jacked up as a species.

(50:18):
We're still young, we're still animalistic hugely, so, so we're
we're not anywhere near there. That doesn't mean that there
aren't people on the planet who are there who are
mature enough. When I go to you know, UFO conventions
or symposiums, I see a lot of people that are
open minded, who are good nurturing, people who have curiosity

(50:40):
first and foremost, and are not hurtful people.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
I see a lot of people who.

Speaker 4 (50:45):
Ask questions and want to know that there's something greater
and something more, you know, beautiful than our ugly side.
And so I think they look at us and go, oh, okay,
they're still really young. They'll they'll hopefully get there if
they don't blow themselves up, they'll get there. But you
have to let us be in kindergarten, our nursery school.
You can't skip us ahead. We can't mentally deal with

(51:09):
grad school. And these guys are not only grad school,
they're like professors compared to where we're at nursery school.
So it's not realistic to expect the disclosure as well,
that they're going to, you know, come in and say,
all right, join the Galactic Federation.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
Really, I don't even think the bouncer would let us
stand in.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Line at the Black Federation club, right, Hey, do you
know that I can't believe this, that we're getting close
to being out of time already. Anyway, I found the
original pictures that I took of the balloon. Now, if
you're looking at the screen here those of you on
YouTube right now, you can see the first one it's
just plain old Chinese balloon. Then the center was exactly

(51:49):
when it was hit, and then you can see the jet.
The third image over you can see the jet moving
along and it's starting to descend. But that one in
the very center is the moment that that missile hit
the balloon.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
It's missif and just like what we saw.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
Yeah, yep, yep, and that's prior of course. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (52:10):
Also, also, guys, let's talk about this for a second.
No one's mentioning this or we haven't mentioned it yet.
If we actually did fire and we hit a UFO,
that's kind of jacked up.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Man. We literally blew a UFO out of the sky.

Speaker 4 (52:26):
Yeah, what the f So yeah, if it is a UFO, yeah,
come and visit for your vacation. Don't go to Portugal,
don't go to Hawaii. Come and you know and visit
along the coast of wherever that was done and get
blasted out of the air. I mean, we just straight
up murdered aliens possibly or at least damage their craft

(52:48):
if it's a drone.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
So that's not.

Speaker 4 (52:51):
Anything to be really really excited about either. I would
they forced it down to land, that would be great, but.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
I think, you know, I mean, there are you know,
rumors going around of course always that that's how they
got here. And then you know, I mentioned Jonathan Wagen first,
you know, the beginning of the show, and he you know,
claims that he thinks that what he saw, the craft
that was wedged in the rock was shot down by something.
I don't think it was a hell fire, but it

(53:21):
was something that had a lot of chargers in it,
you know that he said it looked the craft looked
like it hadn't been hit by something.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
Of that nature.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
Here's we have a minute and a half here left
last question for us both, do you think there's is
real soon to be found footage on this stuff out there,
then we're talking to the found footage King Dean Aliotto
right here.

Speaker 4 (53:43):
Now. Yeah, God, I don't know what shape it would take, guys,
I don't know. I mean, first of all, the military
definitely has crystal clear footage of craft in the air,
and if it's landed, they've got footage of that. If
it's crash landing because we've shot it down, that's great,

(54:06):
then you know, then we would have that. But the
idea of us getting our hands on that and that
being released through any disinformation for you, you know, through
any disinformation campaign getting past that, you know, I don't.
I don't hold my breath out for that. Again, you
guys have seen UFOs. I don't think I have. I've

(54:30):
shot a couple of things, but I'm.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
Not sure because it was too far away.

Speaker 4 (54:33):
But you guys have seen that, and you experiencers out
there are seeing them up close more than any military
person that that is looking at craft or even maybe
retrieving craft unless there's occupants, of course, But the experiencers
are the ones that I'm excited about.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
I don't. You know.

Speaker 4 (54:50):
Again, I always say this, I don't care to see
another Congressional Hearing. Unless they drop a UFO tail pipe
on the desk, then I got to happen.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Hey, we are out of time. So Tim Ventura, where
are you?

Speaker 3 (55:02):
So? I hope he's doing I hope he's okay.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
And so we'll be back next Tuesday nine pm. Dave Marler,
Thursday eight pm Travis Walton, the One and Only, and
we will be heading my producer Don and I will
be heading out to Sedona for the Skyfire Summit fiftieth anniversary. Anyway, Dean,
thank you so much. I really appreciate you filling in.

Speaker 4 (55:25):
And you've got it, and you can check out Life
Beyond Us on Amazon or just go to Alien perspectivemovie
dot com.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
All right, take care, Dean, thanks for filling in.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
Thanks you got it. What are you doing for