PART II: A 1981 MiB Report From British Columbia, Canada

by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles LearIn last week’s blog, we looked at a case from British Columbia that involved two witnesses who said they not only saw a UFO on the night of October 3, 1981, described as an upside-down flying saucer with its dome underneath surrounded by four lights that were in the 3,6,9, and 12 o’clock positions, but also had encounters with MiB types afterwards. The main witness, a 16-year-old who ran his own security company, Grant Breiland, reportedly took a photo that was not developed at the time of the article. The other witness, identified only as “N.B.” was a 19-year-old male who said he saw the same object. Breiland was interviewed extensively by former University of Victoria linguistics professor, Dr. P.M.H. Edwards. Edwards wrote a report that was published in the Vol. 27, No. 4, January 1982 Flying Saucer Review.When we left off, Breiland had just been confronted in the glass-doored vestibule of a shopping mall by two men dressed in extremely dark blue clothing. They were stiff and robotic, had tanned faces and lips the same color, no eyebrows, and “Eton crop” haircuts. He was scared by not only their non-human appearance, but also by the fact that there were suddenly no people to be seen anywhere, which was the case during the entire encounter. According to Edwards, they asked him what his name was, where he lived, what his phone number was, and he refused to answer. After staring at him for five seconds, they turned on their heels “as one man,” walked outside (it was raining), crossed the sidewalk to the road, went left, and walked in sync in a military fashion. Breiland followed them and watched as they walked onto a muddy, excavated field and then vanished before his eyes. He ran to the spot where they disappeared and saw they had left no footprints. Read more →

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:10):
A nineteen eighty one MiB report from British Columbia, Canada,
Part two by Charles Lear. In last week's blog, we
looked at a case from British Columbia that involved two
witnesses who said they not only saw a UFO on
the night of October third, nineteen eighty one, described as
an upside down saucer with its dome underneath, surrounded by

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four lights that were in the three, six, nine, and
twelve o'clock positions, but also had encounters with MiB types afterwards.
The main witness, a sixteen year old who ran his
own security company, Grant Brieland, reportedly took a photo that
was not developed at the time of the article. The
other witness, identified only as M B, was a nineteen

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year old male who said he saw the same object.
Freeland was interviewed extensively by former University of Victoria linguistics
professor doctor P. M. H. Edwards. Edwards wrote a report
that was published in the volume twenty seven, number four
January nineteen eighty two, Flying Saucer Review. When we left off,

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Breland had just been confronted in the glass doored vestibule
of a shopping mall by two men dressed in extremely
dark blue clothing. They were stiff and robotic, had tanned
faces and lips the same color, no eyebrows, and eaton
crop hair cuts. He was scared by not only their
non human appearance, but also by the fact that there

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was suddenly no people to be seen anywhere, which was
the case during the entire encounter. According to Edwards, they
asked him what his name was, where he lived, what
his phone number was, and he refused to answer. After
staring at him for five seconds, they turned on their
heels as one man walked outside. It was raining, crossed

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the sidewalk to the road, went left and walked and
sank in a military fashion. Breland followed them and watched
as they walked into a muddy, excavated field and then
vanished before his eyes. He ran to the spot where
they disappeared and saw that they had left no footprints.
According to Edwards, Breeland was thoroughly frightened at this point

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and ran to the bus stop so he could get
home quickly. He told Edwards he was certain that he
had caught the four p m bus, which should have
gotten him home in about fifteen minutes, but found himself
walking the door a few minutes before five p m.
Edwards speculates that he may have caught the four forty
p m bus, but notes that Brelan told him that

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that bus would have been much more crowded. Edwards describes
a dream Briland had that night. In the dream, when
he got across the field, the men were waiting for him.
They grabbed his wrists and disappeared. Whereupon he suddenly found
himself in a circular white room. It was lit, but
he could not see any source. The men strapped him

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to a chair, repeated their questions, and he again refused
to answer, causing one of the men to exclaim, you'll
be sorry. They asked Breland if he told any one
about his experience, and he said he hadn't. They told
him they had been watching him and said he was lying.
They said, forget it, destroy it. On following nights, he

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dreamt of the interrogation. In the vestibule, Breland noticed an
approximately half centimeter round welt on the inside of his
right thigh, and Edwards asked him to let him know
if there was any change in it. He also asked
him to report any kind of unusual event experienced by
him and his family. According to Edwards, n B also

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reported an encounter with two strange men. He told Breland
that at around noon on October fifth, three to four
hours before Brelan's encounter, two very pale, slender men with
white hair, who were dressed just like the others, came
to the gas station where he worked and asked for
petrol for their car, which was nowhere to be seen.

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And b asked what kind of car they had and
whether they needed leaded or unleaded gas, and one of
the men said, I don't know. He got a can
and filled it with unleaded and asked for their names
so they could sign for the can. The same man
said he couldn't give their names, and the other remained silent.
And b asked how long they would be with the can,

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and the man said fifteen minutes. He told them they
owed him two dollars and sixty five cents, and they
gave him a ten dollar bill. When he gave them
their change, which included bills and coins, he noticed that
they had no finger nails, and they looked at the
coins as if they had never seen such things. They
then turned mechanically and walked away to a side street

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where they turned. They came back fifteen minutes later, put
down the can, which was still full, and asked, we
assume it was the one who was doing all the
talking before. Where do you live in this fine city?
And B answered at Gordonhead And they stared at him
and then turned around and walked off, and B noted

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that they didn't bend their knees when they walked. As
for the activity in the area during the encounter, n
B didn't say anything about it being unusual. Edwards says
he called Breland on October twentieth to ask him if
he'd had any strange phone calls or noticed any strange
people looking at him on the streets. Breeland said he'd

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gotten a few blank calls as well as crank calls
the last two days. Edwards tells the reader that he
had gotten three blank calls and one where he heard
a far away sounding croaking voice. In a PostScript, Edwards
quotes the sentence from the nineteen seventy six book by

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Carlos Castanana, Tales of Power. On page Don Juan says
they will be going to a place where something supernatural
had previously occurred in their presence. Castanana asks, aren't we
risking being seen by people? And Don Juan replies no,
the Niqual will keep everything suspended. Edwards asks could this

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be connected with the apparent absence of any sign of
movement or life during a UFO signing or an MiB visit.
Charles Lear is the author of The Flying Saucer Investigators,
available in its second edition at Amazon dot com.