The Ick List & Group Dinners

Whats on your Ick List?

Episode Transcript

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Hey, imagine that, two millennials doing a podcast to
avoid legalizing the purge. Yeah, probably because they
can't afford therapy. This is mostly true opinions.
Oh yeah, there's another mostly true opinions.
I am Cameron that is KDK Comedy.Hello.

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How are you babe? Living the dream life.
Yeah, I'm back home. It feels good, doesn't it?
Every time we record, it's oh, I'm back home.
It does happen quite a bit. It does happen quite a bit, but
we are happy to. I honestly it, I thought to

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myself last night because we slept in our bed and I was like,
this feels different. My body feels better here and
it's like, yeah, you're at home,you're on home turf.
Yeah, and we had a homecoming. Your idea, Slash.
We've talked about it on the pod.
I don't know if we've ever teased something more possibly

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than the new sprouts. Oh my God.
OK, if there's one thing that you should know about me and
KDK, it's that we like a grocerystore grand opening.
Yeah, but I don't think we've ever done one together and.
No, this is our second. What was the 1st?
Trader Joe's opened up near our place.

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Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's so funny because you go in and everybody's been to a
grocery store before. We all have been to grocery
stores. But you walk into a new one and
you start like window shopping as if a grocery store is a new
concept. We were going up and down aisles
like, oh, oh, they have ketchup.Oh, what is this?
Oh wow, they have chips if. If we had unlimited money we

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would have filled like 3 cars offood.
Oh my God, yeah. I wanted to try everything in
there. Oh, it was the best.
It it was. If we went in there, like you
said, unlimited money, unlimitedspace in our house, it would be
over. It would have been
irresponsible, frankly. And also, we made the rookie
move. Everybody knows this is a rookie

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move. You can't go into one of these
things on an empty stomach. Yeah, we went in having not had
dinner yet and having worked allday, and we're exhausted.
And we both just got back in town from cities that don't have
very many lettuce options or vegetables.
And Sprouts is just like the Mecca of healthy foods, organic

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foods, fresh foods, vegan foods,vegetarian foods like and they
had fresh sushi. It was amazing.
So we did fill up half of 1 cart, but it emotionally I
wanted to fill up 3 carts. What's another adult thing that
gives you a similar feeling to anew grocery store?

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Like a really stupid thing that young you would be like, how
lame. For me, new vacuum cleaner
that's exciting a new. Litter a new litter box.
Oh, a new litter box. Oh, it's like a brand new life.
Oh, what's another one? Buying new socks.

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It's like, I've never had socks before, and I'm wearing socks
for the first time. Like, I didn't know my feet
could be this comfortable. Yeah, I there's been many signs
of me over the last few years oflike, OK, Cameron's definitely
officially getting old. This is one of them.
Oh. Stop.
Another one of them I don't. Like.
Older, I don't hate it, I don't mind it.

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I really don't. I think it's cool.
I'm leaning in. I have another one to add to the
list. When I was traveling I I always
download like way too many things for the iPad and my phone
to listen to or watch. Like it's irresponsible.
You totally turn into you totally turn into a full iPad

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kid. I turn into a full iPad kid and
I, I mean, it makes no sense. I'm on a four hour flight.
I downloaded 12 movies. I'm not going to watch all 12.
No, I'm. Probably not going to watch even
one of them, but what did I do this this last plane trip?
I listened to a podcast that talked about foot pain.

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Why? Whose podcast was it?
It's one that NPR does called like Lifehack or something like
that. And they all they share each
episode is like a tips about something that people go through
there. There was one on how to make
friends as an adult. There was another one on the
foot pain thing. There's.
It's really interesting actually.

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How long are these episodes? Like 20 minutes.
It wasn't super long. And did you find out any
proprietary information you didn't know about your foot
pain? Yes, Like what?
They talked about doing foot yoga and they said a lot of
things that. Frankly, would trigger you
stretching. It's, it's a specific kind of

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stretching that like you do eachtoe differently and it stretches
all kinds of different muscles. And I started doing it while I
was on the plane and I'm like, Oh yeah, this feels good.
Wait, did you take your shoe offon the plane?
No, no, no. Threw my shoe, threw my shoe.
I would never take my shoe off on a plane.
What did you think that they said that would trigger me?
How you should create a relationship with your own feet

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and how like everyone should learn how to love their feet.
Are you fucking high? They should.
There's a really good stretch orexercise that you do when you
give yourself a massage and it'sinterlocking your fingers with
your feet or with your toes. And like doing the I was like,
Katie would hate this. Oh my God.

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OK, here's what I would hate this is I don't care.
Like, I'm all about reflexology,massages, give me a good foot
massage, whatever. I understand that the feet
connect to other parts of the body, etcetera, etcetera.
So if you're going to give me a strictly informational podcast
about ways to alleviate pain, that's fine.

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Don't fucking make it more than it is.
I don't need to be besties. I don't need to be besties with
my fucking foot, you know what Imean?
Let's not make it an emotional connection with my foot.
Bridge too far? Well, tell me pain points,
trigger points, like acupuncturetype things, stretches, sure.
Any of that, I'll take it. But if you're gonna start acting

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like it's an emotional connection with my foot, like
get over yourself. Who are these people?
Are they doctors or are they just like yogis?
A couple experts. Experts in what?
Like podiatrist and stuff like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. It's it is a bit a bit of a

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bridge too far, I agree. But you listen to the whole
thing. Yeah, I, it's good stuff.
I, I listen to the whole thing. And then I fell asleep during
the latter half of it, but woke up and I was like, oh, I don't
know what I missed. And rewound and listen to the
Full Foot podcast you. Fell asleep, woke up and rewound

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to see yeah. Because I didn't want to miss
the info. Yeah, I wanted to make sure.
Most of the time if I fall asleep during a podcast on a
plane, I just like chalk it up to that my subconscious heard
it. Say that again.
If I'm listening to a podcast ona plane and I fall asleep during

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it and then it finishes while I'm asleep, I just chalk it up
to like my subconscious. Listen to this.
So I finished the episode. I wish it worked that way.
Can you imagine it would be so learn things I'd be.
I'd fall asleep listening to Rosetta Stone every.
Night This is why people fall asleep listening to 8 Hour

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Manifestation YouTube playlist because it does soak into your
subconscious. Well, I think that's because
it's repetitious though, becauseyou're going, I am this, I am
that I am. And that comes back around.
You kind of cycle through it again, no?
No, it's just like an 8 hour meditation thing.
OK. Which I still think we should

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listen to. I'm down, but I don't.
I wish that I could soak up knowledge in my sleep that would
save me a lot of time. OK, I like how you think me
falling asleep and soaking in things subconsciously is less
unfounded than having a weird friendship with your foot.

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I didn't say it's unfounded. I think there's some value to
the manifestation because you'reactivating like your own
subconscious to like think aboutthings and almost create energy.
The history stuff, I'm just thinking like, listen to
listening to a history book and trying to soak it up at night.
Like, I don't think my my memoryis going to pick up on it.

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You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah.
I'm not trying to harsh your vibe.
OK? It's worth a shot.
I mean, we can try it. It's worth a shot.
Even else I thought of when I was travelling in my travels to
Missouri. Sounds like I'm doing
international stuff. Exotic.

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God, you know what? I love?
A restaurant in the airport. I love how shitty they are.
My favorite thing about a restaurant in the airport is
there's really innocuous brands that have decided to do food.
I walked by one that was the NASCAR pit stop, and they all
serve the same thing. It's fries and burgers, but

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you'll be walking along and it'slike the, you know, Ice Breakers
cool down bar sponsored by Ice Breakers Mints.
It's like. The Brookstone Cafe, it's just
random brands that decided like we should probably have some
sort of advertising in an airport, let's open a
restaurant. I love that shit.
No, I didn't go to one, but the NASCAR pit stop look pretty

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good. OK, I bet they have.
Just like barbecue and Mac and cheese.
Yeah, I mean, it's essentially the same thing they do on a
cruise ship, you know, Guy. Guy Fieri's burger.
Place. Shack's Chicken.
Yeah, I love an airport restaurant.
I guess. And I love how many people are

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at them just leaning into how shitty they are.
Well, it's because they're hostage.
Like it's what is that syndrome where you like your captor?
No. Oh, Stockholm syndrome.
Yeah, it's like Stockholm syndrome for the people inside
the airport. They think they like the options

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because there's nothing else to do.
True. And I kind of thought about it
though when I was sitting there looking around and I thought
like if things are more expensive at the airport, but I
kind of understand it. I don't, I don't want them to be
expensive. Like I wish they were cheaper.
But I thought to myself, these employees when they get to the

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airport everyday they have to park, they got to walk all the
way up here, they got to go through security.
It's a whole thing. It probably takes them 40
minutes to get in the building. OK, I did not.
I did not see you as becoming anairport apologist.
What's your deal? I don't know, It's just like a

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little microcosm of society. I love it.
I suppose I've also never met anairport employee that doesn't
seem like they hate being there.That's mostly true.
That's mostly true. There's every now and then
there's a gem or like a diamond in the rough.

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I feel like they're all like ex convicts that like needed this
job so they hire like ex felons or something.
What do you think the worst job in an airport is?
Oh Oh well I mean are we counting like gate agents?

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Yeah, maybe that just because you get if a whole flight gets
cancelled or fucked you, you arenow you are now enemy #1.
Yeah, I think it's got to be a tie between gate agent or TSA
agent. It's like the gate agent,
you're, you're the person that is getting all the heat.

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The TSA person, you have to stand there and say the same
thing 100,000 times a day. Yeah, but.
Your ID, remove your iPad, take off your shoes like.
At least TSA agents like have the a shrapnel of power.
A gate agent is just like there to be shit on.

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Yeah, God, they, they probably, they can't get paid that well.
No, a nightmare. It's like it's, it's on the same
level of why would you want to be a cop?
You know, why do you want to be?That's a hard job.
OK, I don't think you can even compare that because at least
there's some cops that have like, you know, that do stand up

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for justice. What does a gate agent do on
their very best day of their job?
The flights are just like on time, like cops on a good day
could like save someone from getting murdered.
Yeah, that's true. The stakes are littler upside.
Yeah. Yeah, but like on the on an

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ideal gate agent day, they just like board planes on time.
I think if you're not in the airport, the one that's closest
to it, that's got to be the worst is flight attendant.
I've known so many people over the years, friends that have
tried to do it, some successfully, others not, and it

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just, it's got to be hell. I mean the passengers are just a
holes. Yeah, I don't do.
Do you think that people that work like the gate agents get
travel rewards or get like standby privileges?
Like do they get something that makes it worth it to go through
the hell? I would think so.

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You got to, because how else do they incentivize people to do
the job? Or are they like, is it just
like a shift that also flight attendants get?
Like are those people also flight attendants?
I don't know. We should know more about
airports. We should probably.
I mean, we're in it quite a bit.Yeah, it is funny, though.
I still encounter people, some people I'm related to, others

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not that I'll start talking about this stuff with.
And they're like, oh, you know, I never, huh?
And then I'm like, how many times have you flown in your
life? Three.
I'm like, you're 40 years old. How is that possible?
You fly three times a week. Occasionally, yes.

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Like. It is surprise you a round trip
in a day again to Seattle. I'm going to 8:00 AM, fly there,
do a gig at 3:30 and fly back at8:00 PM and.
You're going to have time to seethe Space Needle and everything,
right? Certainly not.
Well, I think we talked about iton the podcast.

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It's just crazy, like a couple weeks ago.
It's just crazy when you encounter adults that have not
done like very, very common things.
I'm not talking about like, oh, have you ever eaten duck?
I'm talking about like you, you talked about somebody the other
week that had never had a mozzarella stick or something.
Ranch. Ranch.

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A salad. Ever.
Right. It's like, how is that?
How is that even possible? It's crazy.
It's wild. Anyway, travels, lots of
travels. Always lots of travels.
Yeah. By the way, happy.
Well, I don't think it's an official holiday, but it's some
sort of pet day on Amazon.com today.

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Really. Yeah, they're doing all kinds of
pet deals. It's like pet Amazon Prime Day.
I just. Need anything?
Saw about it. I don't know, It's worth looking
up, you know, like I'm sure there's all kinds of, we'll have
like food and pee pads and stufflike that, but then they're also
be like $600.00 dog gadgets and stuff.
OK, you know, but some people aren't listening to this on the

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day so that it might have passedalready.
Oh, there's still time. It's it's like a two or three
day thing. OK.
But I don't know, it's I love these kinds of days.
You also end up always spending more money than you would have
to begin with. But we'll forget about that
part. But that's what I'm that's what
I always say to you when you're like, but it's on you.

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Here's the thing. Tell me.
What's the new segment of thingsthat I don't like when you say?
The ick or something red flags. Words or sayings that annoy us.
I didn't come up with a name forit.
Whatever news segment. Yeah, the IC list.

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Is that it? The.
IC list. Yeah, I think that might be it.
I think that's good. When something's on sale, you
say it's on deal and I can't take it.
I don't think I say that, I don't think I say on deal, do I?

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I think so. Like say it in a sentence.
Like if I said, Oh well, you know what's less than the $15
dog toy? Not buying the dog toy.
And you go, well, it's on deal. I don't think I say that.

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I think you might be making thatup.
OK. You're thinking of another man.
Have you been? Have you been with another man?
No. Well, if anyone else says it,
have you heard people say that? I.
Think I have. I think I've heard other people
say it. OK, I don't like.
It but they'll say like it's on a deal.
I don't think that I say that now I'm going to be really

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worried about it. OK, good.
Stay it on, stay ready, stay on your toes.
I really don't think I say that one.
I think you're thinking of somebody else.
Now I'm more concerned. Whatever.
I don't like that when people say that, but because sometimes
there's a sale and you're like, Oh well, it's on sale.

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We could check it out. But I'm like, it would save us
more money if we don't go look at any of this.
I don't like when people say it's free 99.
Oh. Ever hear that?
Yeah, no gross. No thanks.
Add it to the ick list. OK.
Well, I mean, I think we should introduce a new segment of

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things that you would like aboutCameron, OK, you know what I
mean, just to balance it out. Honey, it's not something about
you I don't like. It's a saying.
I don't know. I feel like, yeah, I feel like
that one might be on deal. It's not a personality trait,
it's a turn of phrase, you know?It's borderline.

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It's borderline. It's getting close.
Speaking of dogs and stuff, though, they do this every year.
They release the top ten dog names in America.
OK. Would you like to hear?
First of all, what do you think is the most common dog name?
I'll give you 3 guesses. I mean, possibly Daisy.

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It's up there. OK.
Oh, I don't know, Lucky. No, but that's it's a.
There's one that's close to that.
Luca. One more guess.
One more guess. Lucy.

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Lucy, yeah. Is the most popular.
No, it's just one of it's one ofthe top ones.
I'll, I'll read through it. OK, I'll read through it.
So Daisy comes in at #5 That's one of our dogs.
Daisy. Yeah.
Which when we got Daisy, I didn't think it was that common
of a name and I don't think it was.
Yeah. And then I believe we started a

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trend. Sure, let's say that.
Other ones that made the top 10 #10 teddy #9 Cooper 8 Milo.
Milo seems like such a 90s dog. There, Yeah. #7 Coco 6, Lucy 5,
Daisy 4 Max number 3C. Have you ever met a dog named

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Charlie? No.
I I usually love dogs with people names and Charlie has
never been one of them. Weird.
Right #2 is Bella, and the most common dog name in America is
Luna. Weird.

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I think the only ones that like we have, there's people in our
circles that have them are Max, Daisy and Lucy.
OK. Other than that, I've never met
a dog named Teddy or Cooper Milo.
You know all of these names sound like a freaking goat

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Goldendoodle. Yeah, or like a lab.
Or a Luna sounds like a Husky. Luna definitely sounds like a
Husky. I don't know.
I don't. I'm learning about myself.
Like I don't like all dogs. What kind of dogs don't you
like? I mean, it's dependent on their

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personality for sure, but most like dogs of a certain breed do
have kind of some personality traits in common because they're
just like naturally bred to be like that.
I think I've said it on the pod before that I don't like a
doodle. Yeah, like their personality is

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chaos and I don't resonate with that.
I don't know. I, I also just don't love a dog
like a pug or something I used to think I liked a lot, but I've
met a lot of pugs that like, they're bred to not breathe well
and just like slobber everywhereand just, yeah, it's like sad, I

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don't know. I think that as a dog person, as
dog people, it's fair of us to have a few that that typically
are not our favorite because there are there, even though the
personalities are always different, like there are some
commonalities which are dogs that slobber everywhere.
The breathing, like you said, itjust sounds sounds like they're

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in pain. Sounds gross.
It sounds constant, like constant white noise.
Pitbulls. I'll say it, not a big fan.
I've met a few over the years that I liked but not a big fan.
But what about their personalitydo you not like?
What about pitbulls personalities?
Yeah, they always gentle giants.We have, but I think for the

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most part, good or bad, they're always up in your shit.
Oh yeah, they want to be involved, Yeah.
Yeah, Dalmatians. Dalmatians are kind of Dicks.
Yeah, I've met a couple asshole Dalmatians.
I remember learning that lesson when I was young because we saw
the movie 101 Dalmatians and I told my parents I wanted one.

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And they're like, no, they're mean.
Yeah, I don't think this is going to be a crowd pleaser
because I know you really like these, but I don't love a
poodle. Why?
They're neurotic. They're so.

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Neurotic. Yeah.
That I think is the main issue Ihave.
They're they're very sweet, but they all come packed with
neuroses for sure. Yeah, like they're just
predisposed to be neurotic for sure.
Not that our dogs aren't neurotic, but it's just like now

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knowing everyone. Personality.
Traits, yeah. Yeah, it's I've.
Also just met so many poodles atdog parks, like the small ones
are really a lot. Yeah.
The big ones seem more like a person in a suit.
Yeah, like the small. The big poodles are basically

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robots, like humans in a dog suit.
Sure. The small poodles like just
always seem angry. They are, and I feel like that's
the rap that Chihuahuas get, andI don't feel like it's the same
thing. No, it's a different level of
angry. Chihuahuas are gangsters.

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They're boisterous. Yeah, they're bad ass.
But they're chill. But poodles are like, poodles
are like the Cairns of the dog world.
Why? Because they're always like
pissed off about something. And they like have I want to
speak to your manager energy. I don't know.

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Am I going too far down the rabbit hole?
No, I mean, that's, that's sure.Why not?
That's fair. Just an observation doesn't mean
you want them all to die. No Oh my God, thanks for that
clarification. Are like the barista with the
man bun. Yeah.

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That likes to go rock climbing every weekend.
Like they're cool, but I don't really want to be their friend.
It's so funny at work we have they allow you to bring dogs in
if you get them like pre approved or whatever.
They get their little employee ID badges and there's several
Husky type dogs that are in the building and all of them give

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the same look, which is what thehell am I doing here?
Yeah, like I I don't want to be at work, I want to be at home.
Yeah, and they're not meant to be like office dogs.
They're gigantic. Wow.
They're. Huge.
Yeah, that's crazy. They're also not supposed to be
in like the Los Angeles heat. What?
That's so wild to me that peopleI know Huskies in California in

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general. It's it's insane, any real big
dog like that, that people get and put in an apartment.
I don't understand. Weenie dogs seem like they would
be good at trivia. Or playing cards.
Yeah, I don't know. Or yeah, what?

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Are what are some others. This is fun to keep going.
Corgis seem like potheads, like they get the munchies all the
time. And that's why they're a little
chubby. That's why they have big butts,
yeah. Yeah, OK, what about one of

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those hairless dogs? Like the little hairless ones?
The little hairless ones like they shop at Hot Topic.
OK, and lastly, how about a greyhound?
A greyhound seems like they havelike a psychiatrist and a

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therapist. I was going to say, they seem
well educated and like they're doctors or something.
Yeah. That's so funny.
Do you believe the thing that people say?
That humans look like their dogs.
Yeah, in most cases, yeah. You think that we look like our

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dogs? I don't know.
I think there's photos where Daisy and I look similar.
I don't, I, I don't know, reallylike when I was blonder, I guess
you. What do you think?
I don't think there's an ounce of truth to it.

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I've never seen like anytime they even put up, because I'm
sure like you'll see a slideshowon BuzzFeed or something like
that where there's all these sixcelebrities that look like
they're dogs or whatever. Even those I don't find
particularly accurate. Oh really?
I think it's usually pretty accurate.

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Whatever. I don't think either of us look
at, you know, I don't think I look like our our black
miniature pinscher. No, no, I don't think you look
like either of the dogs. I just thought maybe Daisy and
I, but whatever. I birthed her from my womb, so
fair enough. She does have my genetics in

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that she did come from my womb. You can own it.
Maybe you look like the cat, Rusty.
Oh it's getting worse. You both getting worse.
Light eyes and he I I also throwup everywhere too.

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I don't know, maybe you kind of look like the cat.
Oh please don't. I shouldn't have asked.
This is this is horrendous. This goes on my list of X or
whatever we were saying. The ick list.
The ick list. When she compares me to the cat,
I'm out. Whatever.
You went to a play for the firsttime this past weekend in a long

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time. Not for the first time.
Yeah. And it just so happened to have.
It took place during an LA heat wave, and it was a whole thing.
What an adventure. But do you think that we should
go see more plays? And what was your take away?
I mean, yeah, just not when it's95° out.

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The play was in Ohai called Ironbound and it's I think it
has like it's only a couple weekrun, but I went as a field trip
with people from my acting classto support because my acting
teacher produced it and I liked it was in the round.

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I really like it when stuff is in the round.
I think that's really cool. What does that mean again?
Where there's people sitting on all four sides of the stage.
Is that the same thing as a black box theater?
Yeah, OK. And so I thought that was really
cool. It was a really well written

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play. There was only four actors in
it. And then should I say the
synchronicity? Do it.
So how do you say his last name?Berenthal.
Yeah, so I went to see the Accountant too, with my mom for
Mother's Day because she wanted to see a movie.

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So we did dinner in a movie, andwhen we sat down in the movie, I
was like, wait, wait, what the fuck?
John Berenthal was in the play that I saw in Ohio on Saturday
night, one of four actors. And then Sunday when we saw the
movie, I was like, wait, that's the guy from the play?

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And realized he's in like a ton of stuff.
I just didn't realize because I'm so bad with celebrities and
names and actors. Yeah, he's in like a billion
things. I almost gaslit myself into not
thinking it was real because I was like Oh well that's typical.
Like I always think people look like each other and I doubt he
was in a play in Ohai randomly and no it was him.

(32:42):
He is in the play and Ojai as one of four main actors.
And then he is also in the Accountant too with Ben Affleck
and it was great. I enjoyed the movie and the
play. He was great in both.
That's cool. I always think it's cool when
actors do that. Like when?
Also, what are the two actors? Oh yeah, 'cause it's just like
totally a hobby that I think I would do that as a hobby.

(33:04):
If I was a famous actress, I would like do other things.
Yeah, Yeah. Because you're not at that
point, you're not worried about the money.
Like you can set the time away to do it.
Totally. That's cool.
Yeah. Every now and then I feel like,
oh, I don't should I join like alocal theatre thing?
So I think it would be fun, but also could be one of the worst

(33:24):
experiences of my life. What?
I feel like it could be. It's like you feel like you've
seen movies and shows of people taking it way too seriously.
Not that I not that you shouldn't take it seriously, but
like, you know how it's like allthe moms get involved and
becomes a whole thing. I don't know.

(33:45):
I think about it every now and then because I think they're
cool. Moms get involved.
That's like when your child. No, like the moms themselves are
acting in the play like people carrying out.
Oh well, yeah, that's if you do like community theatre.
That's what I'm talking about. Oh, I thought you meant
auditioning for like a local production of something that's

(34:07):
not just a community theatre. I don't know, I thought it was
the same thing. I don't know.
Oh my. I think it's fun, though.
I think it's cool that he does that is because he's a busy guy.
He's in a lot of movies and TV and he's in like, everything.
He really is. And he was good in the play.
He didn't die of heat stroke. No, I mean, everyone was very

(34:29):
sweaty. It was 95° and there was like no
air conditioning. So I was like, someone's going
to pass out during this. And he was wearing a full jacket
and stuff. It was a lot.
You said on this oh hi trip whenyou went to the theater and
everything that you went with a group of people, you had a group
dinner and you have a new rule. Yeah, I OK.

(34:53):
Similar to skiing, people say you're supposed to like it.
And as an adult, I've decided I don't like it.
People say you're supposed to like karaoke and trivia.
I don't like either of those activities.
Like I am now secure in myself enough.
In my 20s, I tried to like thesethings and tried to be like,
yeah, everyone likes skiing and karaoke and trivia and all these

(35:16):
things. And now I'm secure enough in
myself and my likes and dislikesto be like, actually, no, I
don't like this, and I have a new development.
I have gaslit myself into thinking that I enjoy going to
dinner with a group of people and sharing a bunch of

(35:37):
appetizers, and I would like to resubmit to the jury that I
dislike this. I don't like it.
I don't know. I don't understand why you
thought you would like it to begin with.
Honey, we do that all the time, like with anyone we go to dinner
with. We like split a bunch of

(35:57):
appetizers. And I realized that on like a
subconscious level, it stresses me out so much.
May I say something though? OK, it does happen a lot.
It happens a decent amount. You're also one of the ones that
instigates it every time. I know I, I know, I know I

(36:19):
people. Are like totally cool with
ordering their own thing and then you're like, should we
share an appetizer or two? I don't know what's wrong with
me. I think, OK, you know what it
is. I think I know or believe that
other people like doing it. So in my head I'm like, Oh yeah,

(36:40):
what's like a crowd pleaser? What can make the whole table
happy? Everyone seems to be down for
this item. Let's all get it.
Whatever. And there's still circumstances
where it makes sense, OK, Like ahappy hour or somewhere that
just serves tapas, like the small plates that you're that
you're supposed to share. Whatever, I guess.

(37:02):
But I decided I don't like it. And I think it's because I went
with a group of people that I didn't know as well.
And that was like a, a suggestion they had and it was
then, OK, now everyone has different dietary needs and like
one girl was eating so much morethan everyone else of it.

(37:22):
And then I was like, so now I got 2 bites of these four
things. But now we're all splitting the
bill. Like it's just weird.
And then I'm never going to be like, oh, you just ate all of
like, whatever. I'm just going to let them have
it. But then subconsciously then I'm
like, oh, did I eat too many of these carrots?

(37:43):
Oh, how many bites have I had ofthis hummus?
Like the whole time I'm doing like subconscious math on like
if I've had too much of my portion of the things and then I
hate I we may have talked about this before when it there's like
one chip left of the chips in guac and then no one wants to
touch it. And then someone has to be like,

(38:03):
no, you haven't, No, you haven't.
It's like it's a fucking chip. Just someone eat it.
Fuck or like. See, that's what I try to do I.
Just I eat it. Oh yeah, but then if you but
then if you like jump the gun and then it's like SAT like
someone wanted it. Whatever.
I don't know. It's so it's like a big whole

(38:26):
charade and then I can't even focus on what we're talking
about or what we're doing because my brain is just like,
well, I'm either starving because I'm not eating enough of
the shared item or I feel like I'm eating or the other person's
eating like a bird really, really slow.
And then you're like, Oh my God,like hurry up.
Like I like they're. Talking a lot.

(38:49):
They're talking a lot, so then Ifeel like bad that I'm eating
too much of the things, so then I need to slow down.
We do go to dinner a lot when we're with other people and you
will like kind of regulate how much I've I'm eating of the
shared appetizer. Because you tune out, you start
talking or listening and then you don't, You don't realize

(39:11):
that you just ate the entire like chips and queso and like
everyone else at the table is like you're eating it all.
I don't know. I think I think it might be
because you're a little sensitive to it.
I really don't go crazy with it.But you will get on this mode
specifically with chips where you're not even like chew, like

(39:31):
you don't even finish chewing the one in your mouth and you
like reach for another chip. It's specifically chips and
popcorn where like you will not swallow first.
You will reach for the next bite.
And you get in this zone even ifthere's other people at the
table and I'm like, so then I'lllike knee you under the table or
something and be like, you're eating all the chips.

(39:54):
And all of our friends think that you are like controlling my
diet. No.
That's what's going on. You're like you've had your 3.
But I think it's just, or let's say there's a group of four
people, but the deviled eggs come as a plate of three.
Now what? Somebody just has half of 1 I I

(40:16):
totally know what you mean. Listen, I'm not defending it.
I, I am team, let's go to dinner.
Everybody order for themselves. Everyone order whatever you want
to drink, whatever you want to eat.
It doesn't have to be because you, you sit across from people
who are there with their spouse and it's almost like, well, I
wanted the soup, but you wanted the soup too.
You can, I'm getting it. You can't have it.

(40:37):
And it's like, no, just everybody order what they want
individually, what you want to eat, and that's it.
Stop stressing each other out. So we ate 2 meals in Ojai and
one of them we shared stuff and the next one we all said you
order at the counter get what you want, sit down with your

(40:57):
number right. We're ordering separately and I
ordered two things and then ended up donating one to the
table because everyone ordered dumb and didn't order enough.
So then I donated like a side oftots that everyone ate because
they ordered dumb. What do you mean by they ordered

(41:19):
dumb? Like it's like I got a bowl of
stuff for myself and then a sideof tots, right?
This other girl ordered wings, but it came with three wings.
Like that's not a meal. OK, well then she should go get
more food. But then I felt like here I am
with my like bowl and tots like and she's here with three wings,

(41:41):
like I should just give her the fucking tots.
So that's what I did because I was like, this is I don't know.
I know this is we're really in the weeds here.
No, I think it's very relatable.I think it is.
I, I think it now goes along with my group dinner anxiety of
like splitting the bill eight ways, ordering as a group, who

(42:05):
got alcohol, who didn't, how many drinks did we all get?
And that's what's stressful too,'cause then sometimes if we all
order appetizers and then you get a second drink, but no one
else gets a second drink, then Ifeel guilt, like it's just, it's
enough. It shouldn't be that guilt
ridden either way. I understand.
I, I, I know that I'm overthinking it as a social

(42:27):
experience, but I love here's here's where what I love.
One, we go now we order for ourselves.
Great. Two, I love to order at the
counter, pay at the counter, andthen sit down.
That's nice. And receive my items.

(42:48):
That's nice. And I love then a server's not
coming over every 7 seconds. So nice.
You're not wrong. That's a good feeling.
There was also I met two other girls for dinner this week.
I was like we finished the Artist's way program and we went

(43:08):
and got appetizers again. It happened again.
There was 4 things on there and there's three of us.
Who gets the extra 1? Like what are we doing?
One of the girls was like going ham on all the appetizers and I
like have three bites. And I was like, great.
What you know, there was a thingwhere at this restaurant you

(43:32):
could get complimentary still orsparkling water.
So they brought both to the table and specifically you
couldn't tell when it was pouredin these cups which one of us
had Stiller sparkling. And these people, these servers
and their assistant, like serverassistants were so attentive,

(43:55):
which is sweet, refilling our waters.
However, every single motherfucking time, because the
water cups were three oz. Every single time they came
over, they would go. Was it Stiller sparkling in your
cup? So they kept coming.
We would. I couldn't even.
Get through that. Yes, but I'm saying I couldn't

(44:16):
even get through half a sentenceand they would come up and re
ask and I almost hid one of the water jugs under the table
'cause I was like it's a whole fucking thing.
Now every time they come over for the water, it's a whole
goddamn thing. Like there's something to being
silently attentive instead of being like we have to talk about
the water every 90 seconds. I don't think that I realized

(44:38):
you had so much dinner time anxiety.
Yeah, there's a lot of aspects of a meal that I mean, I think
there's a lot of aspects of a group meal that stress a lot of
people out. To be fair, it can be.
Weird, I don't. I almost don't see like any more
than four people. I don't see the upside of a

(45:00):
group meal. What is the what are the causes?
What are the? What are the positives?
I don't think there is any. I really don't.
Like literally name one, I dare you.
It's it's group drinks, same thing.
Because you. Can't go to the bar.
With all the people. But you can't.
You're talking to the person right across from you.

(45:21):
It's in any more than four people, it's a nightmare.
It's a it's a waking nightmare. It's stressful, but I'm glad you
made it through it. Yeah, if you're not seated at a
circle table, get out. Get get fucked like you're
you're. If you're at a circle table.

(45:42):
No, but if you're at a long table then you're.
Then the people on each end are just screwed and you're not even
in conversation with each other.Yeah, well, you're talking to
people at the end. The circle table is difficult.
I don't really like the circle table because you're only
talking to the person, like directly next to you.
It's just, you know, because thetable's so big.
Yeah. It depends how wide that circle

(46:04):
is. It depends.
Yeah, it's the what's the measurement of the circle?
Then get back to me. I don't know what is my ideal
group outing like. I don't.
Know 4/4 total probably. No, I know, but other than
dinner, like in what setting do I want to be around people?
You'll have to get back to me onthat.

(46:24):
I don't know. I don't know what the answer is.
An order at the bar. I think what you're describing
is a McDonald's. A brewery, maybe?
Yeah. Where people order at the bar
and then come sit like a picnic table and arrange themselves
however they want? Sure.
Separately. Yeah.

(46:46):
Or a situation where we just endup having dumb money and we just
treat everyone to stuff that seems more fun.
That's the most ideal, but then that comes with its own bag of
cats too, you know? Why?
I'd love to find out, but like, it was just people feeling weird
about not, you know, ordering what they want to order.
And it's just a whole, I don't know, OK, I don't know.

(47:09):
You got to kind of sneak attack people with that stuff.
Right. Oh yeah.
Treat them after the fact, because otherwise they're not
going to actually order what they want.
Yeah. Yeah, And then people feel weird
and it's no, just do a it's my turn type of thing anyway.
Well, I'm sorry it was so stressful.
I think that's a good rule, though.
I don't think group dinners are good for anyone, really.

(47:32):
And that began in childhood, by the way.
Group birthday parties, not fun.You know, there's.
Oh yeah, you sit down and you sit in a circle and everyone
opens their presents in front ofeach other and you're all stack
ranking the best presents and just, it's horrendous.
Yeah. Thinking about it right now
stresses me out. I think no way.

(47:53):
I think social experiences as a child messed us up.
I think so, but I, I, you know, I don't know which one it was,
but there's something in there that messed us up.
Anyway, now that you're nice andsalty, Are you ready to Jude?
I suppose. What do you got?

(48:26):
Oh, I, you know, I'm tired of holding my tongue.
Oh. If you are above the age of 15

(48:47):
and you send your mommy a birthday wish list, eat my Dick.
I don't. Well, what?
What if? What if the mom asks for one?
How about that? You go.
I don't need anything because I'm a fucking grown adult.

(49:08):
Thanks, mom. I just need a card.
Mom, I just need oh mom, I'd love to spend time with you and
go out to dinner. You know, that's fair.
OK, I'd love. Hey, mom, why don't you just
take me to a movie or spend timetogether?
Or if we don't live near each other, just send me a card or
something. Yeah, if you send your mommy a

(49:29):
fucking birthday wish list and you're, I don't know, pulling
this number out of my ass 28 years old, then there's a chance
you should go fuck yourself. And I don't know, just pulling
this out of my asshole. If you're sending your mommy
things that aren't $20.00, I don't know, say again, just a

(49:52):
guess. A $200 hoodie to your mommy
who's still work. I can't.
I'm like getting fucking hives if your mom is single working
mom and not just like dumb rich and you're sending a wish list

(50:15):
of items that are all around $200 for your mom to buy you OK
for your birthday wishes when you're a grown adult that's, I
don't know, maybe 28? I need you to look in the mirror
and then punch yourself in the goddamn face.
What is wrong with you? Hi, hello.

(50:38):
Wake up, be an adult, buy your own fucking hoodie.
Oh, you can't afford it? Then you don't need it.
Then maybe the hoodie Not for you.
Your mom's going to send you a fucking card, and maybe your
little baby ass needs to wake the fuck up and realize you're a
grown adult. You either buy your own hoodie

(50:58):
or you don't Get a hoodie. Duh.
Second, let's say mayhaps that you're born near Mother's Day.
OK, let's say for the sake of argument that you've received a
$200.00 from your mommy. OK?

(51:20):
And then you can't even fucking find it within yourself to 1
send a card to do a phone call and you send a text instead of a
card or a phone call after receiving your $200 hoodie.
You can't even fucking be bothered for Mother's Day to do

(51:41):
more than a motherfucking text. Get fucked.
I don't understand how people's fucking brain synapses connect
yet they cannot put together being a thoughtful human when

(52:01):
you're able bodied and able minded and you're not, to my
knowledge, not disabled. Interesting.
Because there's a lot of behavior going on that would
imply some sort of disability. I don't someone make it make
sense. So judgement to the plaintiff.

(52:25):
Shove your bullshit ass text inside the $200 hoodie and shove
it up your fucking ass. Totally random situation there
that you brought up out of nowhere.
It's been a really triggering week.
So it's funny, so this happened.We were.

(52:48):
You and I were already talking about this couple days ago when
I ran it by some folks I know atwork.
And you would be upset to understand or upset to hear that
a lot of people in their 20s still do this.
They send a wish list of items to their parents.
Yeah, upon the parents request or no parental request.
Yeah, it's still a very common thing.

(53:10):
Here's the thing. Here's the thing.
Tell me. If you say, oh, I don't need
anything and they still send yousomething, OK, that was their
own free will. I'm willing to bet that if you
say, oh, I don't need anything and they still really want to
send you something, I'm willing to bet that that thing's not

(53:32):
going to be $200 worth. I'm willing to bet that that
item that they're going to send you is probably a $20 fucking
gift card. Then it's not going to be a $200
value if you say I don't need something.
Also grow an ounce a shred of pride as an adult person to not
be using your parents who probably can't afford it.

(53:55):
Like that's not their what wakesthem up everyday is like oh I
want to get a $200.00 gift for my stupid fucking child that
seems to be stuck in teenage land.
Are you a fucking preemie? Like no you're 28 years old
could have fucking fooled me. I can't, I cannot.

(54:23):
You better cut me off before I bring up the other.
Example. Cut me off before I bring up the
other example. I'll cut you off.
I'll cut you off. But you know, in case you
couldn't tell, KDK triggered again this week.
It's a triggering life. What do you say?
Always it's. You say it's a triggering time.
A triggering time to be alive. Yeah.

(54:43):
And it remains to be true every breath I breathe.
Every breath you breathe, it's atriggering life.
It's going to be OK, babe. It's going to be OK.
Let's go get dinner with our friends.
Grab a few apps. I feel scared.
I feel like it's possible that now we've one of our friends

(55:09):
that listens is going to be likereal in her head about it.
Why? But I can just be honest.
I just have to be honest. Yeah, just be honest.
Just be honest. Be yourself, be yourself, be
yourself. Whatever from just friends.

(55:33):
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