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Hey, imagine that 2 millennials.Doing a podcast to avoid
legalizing the purge? Yeah.
Probably because they can't afford therapy.
This is mostly true opinions. It is mostly true opinions.
I'm Cameron. That is K to K comedy.
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Hi. Last week on our temporary set
up here last week. Thank.
God, sure, and also sorry, we were gone last week.
We didn't die, we just moved. Life is life.
And and each day we were like, should we record today?
Oh wait, we're living on top of boxes and every minute of every
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day is full. So just kidding.
If you hear the dog in the background, he very much thinks
we're going to bed. We're we're podcasting a little
bit later than usual on account of Taylor Swift news hitting the
world, hitting this house. We weren't like emotionally
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prepared and we did panic and wedid have up to phones, 2 laptops
and we did order a couple vinylsbecause we both thought we
weren't going to get through thecheckout process and we weren't
sure if friends actually orderedthem or not.
It was so I I was sweating and Ihad clammy hands.
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Well, and I feel like I was traumatized whenever I purchased
you tickets for the era's tour. Remember, I helped like you
were. You were not with me.
You were, you were like in a different state or something
when tickets went on sale and you called me and I was in the
queue and then you were trying to get in the queue.
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The queue is so stressful I don't understand that every
single time she drops anything it's always a mad dash.
Half the websites crash. Some of my friends couldn't even
get in the checkout tonight for the vinyl.
What I don't understand about itis they're making the vinyls.
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So like, let's say it's not likethere's 1000 vinyls that are
available and everybody has to fight for them.
They're gonna take all the orders and then they're gonna go
and press the vinyls. So why is there even?
AI think that the websites were just crashing because so many
people were trying to buy it. I'm sure that everyone that
wanted one can get one. Maybe.
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I hope or she does a limited number so that it seems
exclusive and then she sells more later.
So this is her 12th. 12th. And she's 80 years old.
No. Oh wait, that's the insane thing
about her. The eras to her hype just died
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down. And then she dropped another
fucking album. And here comes an album, and I'm
sure it's gonna be was it the last one?
That What was the name of the last album again?
What the tortured poets department?
Yeah, tortured poets department.What was confusing about that?
Why was that offensive? I don't know, it just feels like
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something you should know. OK, well, I there's a lot of
out. There's twelve of these
motherfuckers. OK, when that one came out, it
was like a surprise double album, right?
Yeah. Do you think we're getting that
again? Do you have an exclusive?
I mean, I wouldn't be surprised,but I also think she doesn't
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want people to just expect that from her.
Now. I'm sure there's going to be a
deluxe version of the album where she releases this one and
then you know, a few days later,a few weeks later, a few months
later, a deluxe album comes out that has like 6 new songs on it.
So it might not be a full doublealbum again, but I could see
that happening. And in general, I don't know.
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I'm so amped for it. I think OK I know she's a
Sagittarius but she shows Capricorn traits.
What does that mean? I say as a Capricorn because she
never rests. All she does is fucking work and
churn out stuff. It is genuinely impressive,
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especially when you factor in she's in a relationship.
They he just posts. Travis Kelsey just posted like a
carousel. You were telling me of like
regular life together. Like they're still doing stuff
and then she's doing music and putting an album together and
stuff. It's great.
It's insane. I respect it.
At the same time, I do feel likewe're glorifying it a bit and
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encouraging people to not have alife.
You know what I'm saying? Like I don't, I don't think the
North Star in life should be, See, Taylor Swift never stops
working. I never have to stop either.
OK, fine. It's good.
To slow down, sure, I would encourage her to take a 5 year
break. No, yeah, this is what she's
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wanted her whole life was to be at the top of her game and the
world hated her for a few years.That's true.
And now it's she's finally at the top of her game and she's
just maximizing on it. I again, when you take a 5 year
break, like wait till. I mean, I don't know if she
wants kids. I think she does.
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I don't know, but wouldn't you wait till like, oh, I'm married
and I'm gonna have kids, so now I'll take a break.
Like, wouldn't you keep going until?
I don't know you're. Not as relevant.
Sure. Yes, for sure.
Wait, but what if she took a break now to the extreme?
If she took a break now it wouldbe insane.
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But sure, but she takes it to the extreme, is my point.
Sure, you don't have to put two albums out a year, you know what
I mean? I feel like Ariana Grande
strikes a good balance. Yeah, that's kind of what I
mean. Like she's.
She's very, she put. An album out and then she does a
movie or two and then she'll do something else and then she'll
put an album. Out and she's still like very
relevant as a as a celebrity, but she's just not putting out
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like 2 albums a year. That's the thing.
It's not, it's not take a break from being in the public eye per
SE. It's just like you don't have to
go wall to wall. Sure, I.
Don't know. Listen, if she wants to listen
to my advice, I'm here anytime. To consult, yeah, for Taylor.
You clearly need it. You clearly need the advice of a
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man who knows nothing about whatyou do.
But here we go. Cool.
I'm excited though. I'm excited 'cause you're
excited. Thank you.
And she's. That's an ally.
Thank you. Yep, Yep, it's on record.
She went on the new heights. Why isn't?
It called that by the way. I, I don't know, I think like,
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what's the turn of phrase? We're reaching new heights,
right? That's stupid, but.
No, that's not. That's just a a phrase.
You've heard the phrase. I know, but.
Here's to reaching new heights. Does it have anything to do with
them as people? Well, let me get to it.
Should we Google it, you're saying?
It's stupid before I even finishmy sentence.
OK. I think the Jason Kelsey started
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the podcast when he retired fromfootball.
So it's like I'm done with football now.
Here's my new chapter, my new heights, I believe.
I still don't like it. Well, listen, I don't know if
it, I don't know if you're the target audience.
I don't know who the target audience is.
Many people, a lot of people listen to.
It I think the target audience is any spillover of people that
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are willing to listen for tiny Nuggets of Taylor Swift news.
Why do you hate the Kelsi brothers?
I don't. I just think that even just
clips on social media that I've seen, it doesn't look like they
put in a lot of effort. Maybe.
I don't know. Does anybody put in a lot of
effort that's a celebrity and has a podcast?
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You know what I mean? OK, I don't know.
I've never listened to it to be honest with you.
Like I said, like like you said,I've only seen the clips.
Too, We've heard from trusted sources that it's not great.
Sure. So.
I don't know. I don't know why we're hating on
no the most successful. Podcast.
No, no, that's what I'm. Saying.
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Is I don't necessarily love it and so I'm not going to be a
regular listener. However, this episode with
Taylor Swift will be the most listened to podcast episode
that's ever existed on the face of the planet.
Do you think in the history of time, what is currently the most
successful podcast in? Is it still the Adam Corolla
show? No.
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I don't know. At one point it was.
Back when podcasts like First existed.
And then was it Joe Rogan or something?
Here, wait, let me see, I'll look at the charts.
Right now it is mostly true opinions.
That's. Wow, that's so crazy.
I guess we're going to be dethroned by Taylor.
Wow, Travis. Number one on the charts at the
moment is a true crime podcast from the folks at 2020 #2 is
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another true crime podcast #3 issomething called Mick Unplugged
with it looks like a self help thing #4 is the Daily by the New
York Times #5 Mel Robbins. Number six Joe Rogan.
New Heights is at #8 on the podcast charts now that's.
Just currently. That's for the show, so like we
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should look in the next. Wait, where's like Alex Cooper
and stuff? Like how far?
I thought she was higher. Alex Cooper is number.
Hang on. Wow.
Jesus, I thought she was. Scrolling pretty for 42.
Oh shit. 42 on the charts. I mean, I, you know, that's
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really good still, but yeah, that's pretty shitty.
That's crazy. OK, so tomorrow it'll be #1
Because there's a 0% chance thatthe entire ether isn't listening
like. I don't know.
We'll see. We got a check because also do
you need to listen? You know what I'm saying?
You saw the announcement. Do you actually have to go to
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the podcast app and click? Listen, it's different.
Because so you're going to. The literally yes.
Obviously it's different becausefor other stuff like when
reality TV stars that I care about from Love Island or The
Bachelor or whatever, when thosereality TV stars go on to Nick
Vile's podcast or Alex Cooper's podcast, I can't stand the way
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that Nick Vile speaks. And I can't really stand the
questions that Alex Cooper asks.And I think all their interviews
take 2 1/2 hours when they couldbe an hour.
And so I will go on TikTok and watch the highlight clips.
So the people that literally go,I watched this episode of the
podcast so you don't have to. And here's the only Nuggets that
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we got out of it, right? And I'll watch that.
It's completely different. People are going to try to do
that for this episode of New Heights.
They're going to try to do a highlight reel on TikTok.
I'm not interested. I want to hear it from the
horse's mouth. I want to hear Taylor Swift's
voice. You're calling Taylor Swift a
horse. No, well as a horse girl, she
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would respect that. I think that it's important in
this case for someone that, I'm sorry, has she literally ever
done a podcast in her life? I understand what you're saying.
It's important to hear it. No, it's important to hear it
from her the way she wants to deliver it and not regurgitated
by some Tik toker. That's totally fair.
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So yes, I do think that everyoneis going to actually listen to
the actual episode, and there's no way in hell that a 2020 true
crime podcast is going to maintain the number one spot on
the charts when this is available.
I think it might maintain the show, like there's top shows and
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top episodes. I think the Taylor Swift thing
is going to be a top episode. You don't like the top episode?
Sure, but I don't think it'll make the podcast.
I don't know. We'll see.
We'll see what makes a show a top show overall.
Listen. Every episode is is above a
certain threshold. Yeah, so like this will have the
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Taylor Swift episode will make it peak.
How many people are on Earth? 7 trillion I think.
Are you being serious? 7 billion, Yeah, I think it's 7
billion. Yeah, sorry, not not 7 trillion.
Billion. Yeah, somewhere around 7
billion, I believe. So if 6 billion listen, you
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don't think it would get top show?
Yeah, 6 billion people. Are not going to listen to it
though. Honey.
Honey. Honey.
Yes, that would mean 6 billion people have to have access to
the Internet, which is not true.How many people have access to
the Internet? I don't know, but not that many
even. Babies have access to the
Internet. In America.
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Kidding me, have you seen child's toys?
In America, whatever. You know what, Speaking of Nick
Vile, I don't understand the Nick Vile thing.
Like there has been he he came. In case you're unfamiliar, he
was a Bachelorette contestant, right?
And then became the Bachelor. Yeah, and then he went on
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Paradise and then he did a spin off podcast and.
I yeah, there there's so many people that have gone through
that show that are far more entertaining than him and like,
personable. He just got he's.
So dry. Branding, I don't know.
And he kind of is trying to do like a love line thing.
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It's kind of like Love Line meets Andy Cohen, like talking
to reality stars, The Real Housewives, stuff like that.
But like. I will admit, for like a year of
time I was into it and he, he's just so painful to listen to.
He's just so dry. I don't know and not a fan.
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For someone that talks about relationships a lot, he says the
word relationship. Go ahead, do it.
We this was my problem when we. Watched the show.
Yeah, anyways, you 2 just started your relationship
relationship relationship. It's like.
He slurs the word relationship. I'm sure I say things wrong too
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every now and then, it's not a regular occurrence, but I just
don't understand the Nick Vile thing.
But again, I think it's more about the people he's talking
to, less about him. I guess the guests are the juicy
part. Right, that's what I mean.
It's more about the guest, less about him.
Right. I guess he just gets a lot of
good guests. Yeah, yeah.
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Anyway, that's the Taylor Swift news.
That's the Nick Vile gossip. Yeah, sorry, we kind of went on
a soapbox there. No, it's been a whirlwind of the
last couple weeks. Like we said, we moved.
We talked about that quite a bit, but we didn't, we didn't
talk to you last week, podcast listener.
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And we decided to be crazy people and we went out of town
minutes before we packed everything into a moving truck
and moved our lives. Yeah.
We you know, we went to Oregon for my shows slash your
birthday. So you came with me, finally, to
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a weekend of shows. Which, you know, people ask all
the time when they, I tell them like Katie's out of town for
she's in Chicago for a show, she's in Milwaukee for a thing,
she's in Florida, she's in whatever.
They'll be like, oh, that's really cool.
Do you get to go with her a lot?And I'm like get to like, sure,
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I technically could, but like you're working.
I'm not, so I don't always have time to do other things and then
also I'm trying to make money and if we pay for an extra
flight then it's harder to make money.
And I also have a job, yeah, andsometimes that doesn't jive with
what you're doing, but. This and we have pets 4.
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Of us, but this particular time it was great.
I got to tag along. Yeah, it was a lot easier
because we found cheap availo flights and we had a free place
to stay at a friend's house and my mom was able to watch the
pets. So like it really all worked out
and it was a reprieve 'cause we were going insane with the
moving stuff. So that was all good.
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It was well timed and we went. We specifically made plans
during the day to go do things in Oregon.
We went to wineries. Shout out to it was Hummingbird
Winery and then Dos Mariposas. Yeah, Hummingbird Estate Winery.
Oh, sorry, get it right. And then we went to a couple
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vintage stores and we went to Crater Lake and did a boat tour.
It was exhilarating. Crater Lake National Park, which
I have to admit, until we boughtthe tickets, I did not know it
was a national. Park, Yeah.
Did you? Know, I, I think that I'm like,
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when, when we're growing up and we're learning about geography
and history and all these thingsyou learn about national parks,
like you know what they are, butI feel like everyone only ever
talks about Yellowstone. Or the Grand Canyon.
Or the Grand Canyon. Or Yosemite.
Or Yosemite. After living in LA, I've come to
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know that Joshua Tree is a National Park.
Come to know that Crater Lake isa National Park.
Not in LA, but like, you get theidea.
There's so many national parks that I haven't been to, and I
think after going to Joshua Treeand now Crater Lake, I'm like
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super into it. Do you want to get one of those
water bottles where you collect all the stickers from all the
national? Kind of.
Well, now we've already missed the stickers from these ones.
No, I mean we can go back. Or order them I guess I don't
know. But it was exhilarating.
It was so much fun. And I mean, it's like I because
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you think about going in like I always, it's cynical of me to
think, but I go into these things and I'm thinking like,
what makes it a National Park, right into a lot of beautiful
places. And they're not national parks.
What like what? What makes you think you deserve
the recognition you're? Such a hater.
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Well, no, I just I I. It's not that I'm actually
thinking that, but. I do wonder like what's the
point of these bitch ass trees? No, I wonder how how someone
decides that. Like there's a lot of.
Beautiful places. We found out how it's decided on
the boat tour. They told us that a guy
campaigned for what, 19 years orsomething crazy?
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For Crater Lake. For Crater Lake to be preserved
as a National Park. Right.
But my, my point is every time I've been to one now, the second
I walk in, I'm like, oh, I mean,it's majestic.
Yeah, let's start there. It's I'm looking at a postcard.
Right where it like looks fake, it looks like a photoshopped
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image cause the world is so pretty.
But yeah, literally they said that this guy basically.
Derek Crater. No, no.
I forget his name. He just like stumbled upon it
and then was like holy shit thisis beautiful.
Got a bug up his ass and like campaigned to the state or
whatever for years, like over a decade and then they finally
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were like son of a bitch. They literally came.
From the wind because they. Were shut up OK.
Go away and. It was really pretty.
It's the deepest lake in the US and the 7th deepest in the
world. I thought she said second. 7th
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in the world, and there's enoughwater in it for every human on
earth to have 800 gallons of water.
Yeah, so every human on the earth could have 800 gallons of
water right now if we drained Crater Lake.
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It's unfathomable. It's insane.
It's unfathomable and it is. It's the story behind it's
insane and listener, you might know it and that's fine.
I'll give you the 32nd version used to be a volcano.
It collapsed in on itself and thus created a lake, and
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technically speaking it is stillmay be active.
No. No, she said.
Technically it's not inactive. I don't think yes it collapsed,
but it also exploded. Like it exploded and then
collapse. Right, right.
So it collapsed. But right.
But it's not. No, it's the wizard's hat thing.
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The wizard island in the middle of it is an active volcano.
I think that the main one is shesaid something like, were you on
the same boat tour? Yes.
First of all, second deepest lake in the.
No, it's 7th. Hang on, let me, let me look it
up. Stand by.
Are you actually going to look it up?
You're insane Person I Who do wetrust more for listening and
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retention 'cause you can't remember the conversation we had
yesterday? We just.
Talked about a a water fountain arrived for our pets and we've
had two conversations about it And then today you go, oh, that
got here. All right, let me list all the
things that you've done That's that are stupid.
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But it no, what are we doing? I'm saying who?
Oh, Speaking of Crater Lake, here's this other thing Cameron
was wrong about A dumb piece of shit he forgot this.
I'm just he. Forgot this irrelevant thing
about our everyday life with a dog bowl so that that is proof
that he's a dumb ass about the volcano.
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No, I'm just saying if we're going to trust someone about
facts, about listening on a tour.
Interesting. You are wrong.
Check this shit out. Second deepest in North America
and the 10th deepest in the world.
Interesting of the two of us that heard something right Twas
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I. No.
I latched on to 2nd. Where did 7th come from?
I What an idiot. OK.
I legit, honey, I legit think that our tour operator said
seventh because she was new and she.
Was a little unsure about what. She was, I think that she might
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have made-up half the facts she told us.
Yeah. Because at one point she goes,
yeah, the water is really blue. And when you go down lower, it
looks black. And I don't really know why.
Oh, and then she said if you putsomething red underwater, it's
invisible, which I don't think. There's, I think there's a
chance that our tour operator said seventh in the world and
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just made it up. Are you ready for this?
Crater Lake is considered an active but dormant volcano.
Right dormant. Not doesn't mean an inactive
means hasn't exploded in a long time.
What is inactive? It's asleep.
Then until it wakes up and we'reall fucked.
When it does, there's water. That's what it means.
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Yeah. It'll blow that shit off.
And then it'll become the first deepest lake volcano in Central
America. OK.
It was really cool, though. That was that.
The headline is super cool, the water super deep.
Also, they had a point in the tour where you could dunk your
water bottle in and drink the lake and it's like, I'm OK.
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It was weird because they started she said that as I was
peeing in it. No, it's crazy 'cause people
like, swim in it for sure. And they definitely pee.
In it and they pee in it. And then also, just a thought,
you know, there's like fish and stuff and like fish poop and
stuff. Yeah, but I guess the water,
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there's so much water that that.There's not poop near you.
It's like this, technically speaking.
In every candy bar there are pieces of insects, technically
speaking. How is this?
You heard this and. Also no, it is unavoidable at a
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certain to a certain extent. OK, but you're literally wrong.
Because there's no, I'm not literally wrong.
Second deepest in North America,10th in the entire world.
OK, and active, but asleep and bugs in your candy bar?
You heard it here first. Well, not first.
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Here's the thing. Absolutely not.
In the last thing there, I know that there are bugs.
It's like honey, hold on. It's like I was.
Going to ask Jeeves. OK, give me a second.
I'm ready. Go on.
Clocks ticking. It's like the the stupid dumb
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idiot fact about how you quote UN quote.
Sure, you swallow a certain amount of spiders in your
lifetime while you're asleep, which fucking jokes on you.
It's not like that. No jokes on you statistically
because I wear mouth tape to sleep so fucking try to get down
my throat now you bitch ass spider.
So it's literally wrong but alsoit's like that where it's like 8
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spiders in your lifetime go in your mouth while you're asleep
or whatever it's. Not like that.
So it's like that in the sense that like, sure, maybe over the
course of my lifetime, if I ate a candy bar every single day for
lunch, I would have in total eaten 2 spiders in 20 years.
Sure, there's not a there's not a bug in every candy bar.
They don't make there's. Pieces of bugs in every candy
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bar. Yes, there is.
Right now, you Google it. You Google it.
I Google the last fucking thing and I was right about all of it.
You sure you want me to Google it?
You're. Going to think I'm making it up
if you don't Google it OK. Here we go.
Are there bugs and candy bars? No, no, it has to be.
Are there bugs in every candy bar It can't beat?
You can't manipulate this. I'm not manipulating it, you
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are. I type this I typed in.
Are there bugs in every candle? OK.
Candy bar. Well, I'm sure they're in wax.
And candles. Yes, it's true.
Most chocolate and candy bars contain trace amounts of insect
parts. Boom.
Are you fucking kidding? Me because we're amazing.
Them. The bug factory?
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No, it's because the the reason that the the wives tale of you
swallow a spider or how many however many spiders a year is
inaccurate is because nobody is sitting watching you sleep every
night to verify it. So like it's an average.
Right. And how are they telling me that
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there's pieces of insect in every candy bar they're not
testing? Because it is unavoidable.
If I have a VAT of chocolate that is that X amount of spiders
would get into it and they've they they measure it.
There is there's been a data sample in order to prove that.
Does that make sense? So they tested 1000 candy bars
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and each one had trace amounts. Yes.
Or some something like that. Here's a thought.
Cover the VAT of Chuck. What the fuck are we doing?
Cover it. Stop.
Hey, here's a thought. Don't do that.
Hey, I got a second idea. Exterminators spray the exterior
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of the building of the candy factory.
What are you doing? Hey, I got a third idea.
Put Nets. I have so many good thoughts.
Here's here. You know what?
I have another thing. A bone to pick with Crater Lake.
OK. So in the very accurate talk
that we received on the boat. Yeah, I remember that, I listen
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to fully. That only, I remember, she said.
Uh huh, that it is. Drunkenly, she said.
She did seem kind of drunk. She did.
It was 10 AM though. And she was from the East Coast
and she was on the West Coast doing crater like stuff, so
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whatever. OK, she said that every hour it
loses 2,000,000 gallons of water, I believe.
Yeah. So it's draining to somewhere,
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but they said that usually craters of this nature in other
parts of the of North America, etcetera.
They test streams, they test rivers, they test ponds, lakes
nearby. Yeah.
And they're like, oh, the water that's draining out of this
crater nearby, here it is. It's in these lakes, rivers and
streams, right? It needs to go somewhere.
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You know what I mean? They said they tested all the
nearby water of Crater Lake and this 2,000,000 gallons an hour.
They don't know where it's goingand she said it's a mystery and
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they just haven't used. Sorry isn't, but it's like they
and they know where it's draining.
Has anyone seen the water? Yeah, I just misplaced 2,000,000
gallons. But it's also like an hour,
2,000,000 gallons an hour. So that's like, if you're
draining a tub, like, and it's being suctioned down into the
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earth and it's like, you guys, here's a fucking idea.
You know how you put dye in people's veins?
Yeah, put dye in the water. You know, you put tracker like
it's like a tracker die in people's veins to see if they
have a blockage in their artery.Yeah, why the fuck wouldn't they
put a tracker in the water and let it get sucked down and find
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out where the fuck it's going? Also, that's 2500 people's
lifetime supply of water based on our earlier fact.
But it's like, are you fucking kidding me?
You don't know where the water'sgoing.
And it's since the beginning of fucking time.
And it's existed for thousands of years.
And we're just like, I don't know.
You're I have to pay. You're making me cry.
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But like, are you fucking kidding me?
Where's the water going? And we don't fucking get give
bugs out of candy bars and fucking find out where this
water is going. What are scientists busy doing?
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What's crazy is I haven't had a single alcoholic beverage today.
This is just me. I don't know that anyone that's
been listening for a long time is surprised by that.
Well, I guess Cameron's peeing now, but it's just like, what
are we spending our tax dollars on?
What are scientists doing? Like, sure, some scientists are
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curing cancer, but some scientists are just formulating
new sodas. And those scientists can't be
like redirected and put on to where is 2,000,000 gallons an
hour going in Crater Lake? And is it going to an alien or
is it going to the center of theearth?
Did you pee yourself? Yes, Todd, I said.
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Where are tax dollars going and why are some scientists?
Yes, some scientists are curing cancer, but like, what are the
other ones doing? There's no other science.
It's curing cancer and legs. Well, some scientists are like
making new sodas. What?
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Yeah, food scientists, right? So allocate some food
scientists. No, they can't be doing lake
stuff. Water isn't that different than
food. Some would argue it is fun.
Yeah, so I'm like, get him on the job, get him on the case.
I just can't believe who seriously just misplaced too
much water every day, like to the middle of the Earth, and
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then one kid on the boat goes still.
There might be an alien down there.
And I was like, that's the best theory I've heard all fucking
day. Somewhat plausible.
Somewhat plausible. So, you know, and then some
people drink the shit water and.So wait, so was this your Judge
Judy moment of the week? No.
But oh OK, I just didn't expect you to get this passionate
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about. It I didn't either.
My God, I also feel like we owe the people like, you know, a
proper Jude and and like a juicyepisode because we were gone for
a week. So we have lots to say.
Amen in in short, Crater Lake was amazing tour guide.
I don't know if she knew what she was talking about.
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I somehow got second. You got 7th, It's 2nd and 10th.
Who knows, But we had a great time.
We had a great time. Oregon was beautiful.
It was beautiful. Should we talk about the
weirdedy of the companions that we shared this trip with?
Sure. OK, good.
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Here's the thing, I also would like for the record for everyone
to know that I'm legally Snow White.
I was feeding deer and it was fawn season and then the friend
that we went on this trip with sent me an article saying that
usually the mothers are really protective of the fawns and
sometimes charge people or dogs and like, 'cause they're think
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you're trying to get their fawn.Right, you're trying to steal
their little baby. But I was legit like touching
them and they were all fine withme.
So I mean, I think it just needsto be on record for everyone
listening that I am Snow White of 2025.
Sure. Should we get that as a bumper
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sticker? There's no follow up.
I won't be taking OK. There's you don't need to.
Comment I won't be taking questions or further comments.
And then we went on this trip with a fellow comic who opens
for me and sometimes Co headlines with me.
And you know, overall solid dude.
And he was opening for me on this trip.
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I was headlining and we were staying at his friend's house
who was out of town. So it was a 2 bedroom house.
We each got a bedroom you came with and I think I have a hunch
that he felt weird last second that he was going to be third
Wheeling you and me, right. And two days before the trip he
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goes, oh, do you mind if I bringa friend?
And I was like, what? And he goes, I said, do I know
which is? Code for in most cases.
A girl, a girl. And then I said, do I know this
person? And he goes, she's fun, you'll
like her and I. So I just went, OK, do whatever
you want because who am I? You're a grown adult.
He's older than us, He's like 42.
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And we're staying at his friend's house for free.
I'm not going to tell you you can't bring someone like
whatever. And we get to the airport and he
introduces us to this girl, and I'm like, hi, OK.
Then they go, we have a secret to tell you, but we're going to
tell you later. And I'm like, OK, how old are
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we? Are we?
It was very odd. It was, so it was.
So it was like weirdly withholding.
And we were like, Huh? But then also why did you?
Win the lottery or something. Also, why even say it?
Right. Just tell us later, right?
Tell us when you're going to tell us.
You don't have to tell us. I'm going to tell you something,
but not now. Like I'm like, OK, are you 6
years old? Hey.
Person I don't know. I have something to say.
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I'll tell you in six hours. Yeah, it was so fucking weird.
So then we have our first show, we get to Oregon, we have the
first show. After the show, we're like
hanging out, taking pictures, whatever.
And they decide to drop the bombthat they met that day at the
airport for the first time and that two days beforehand, they
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had messaged on a dating app. One day beforehand, my friend
was like, oh, do you want to go with me to Oregon?
And she was like, sure, and booked the flight and they met
at the airport. You know.
I'm going to let everyone soak that in for a second moment of
silence for everyone's fucking intelligence.
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We could not only could he have been a serial killer, we could
have all been serial killers. We all could have been serial
killed. Right, We could have been killed
because she could have been a serial killer.
What kind of fucking psycho agrees to go away for three
nights with a man they've never met?
It is so. First of all, clearly she does
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not watch or listen to any of these true crime podcasts
because this. Is like how does that happen
this? This is how it happened.
This is how the people die. To be clear, we didn't murder
anybody. To be clear, she's very alive.
She's so alive and I'm sure she had a great time, but I so we
talk about Love Island all the time.
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One of the things I think about on Love Island every time we
watch it is especially the firstcouple episodes.
Imagine going on ATV show and you meet someone and then six
hours later you have to sleep inbed with them.
It's crazy. That's insane.
It's insane. And in this case, that's what
happened. Yeah.
And I don't know that I'd be able to sleep.
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No, I don't think I'd be able. To and it's different if it's
like a one night stand and you're out drinking and
whatever. We were stone cold sober.
And be more sober. And also she, they're in a bed
10 feet from us and the walls are paper thin.
It's not like a romantic situation, right?
Very. It wasn't like, wow, we're all
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blackout drunk and we're in thismansion and we're staying far
away from each other. And this is like so hot.
It was like, no, we're staying in someone else's house with
paper thin walls. We're right next to each other
and none of us drank and we justdid a show and we're all tired
because we took a 5:00 AM flight.
No. What is?
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What I think, but you know, I also wonder like.
Wait a 5:00 AM flight and then athree hour drive.
Right. Wow.
It makes me wonder what friends and family of this person were
saying. But I heard her say that she
like only told one person she was going.
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That's wise. Because everyone would be like,
you're fucking nuts. For accountability and safety,
at least one person knows where you're at.
So that's smart. And also it's smart to not cast
it wide because there would be alot of judgement.
There would be a lot of judgement from a lot of people,
you know, and I think it's fair.Also it's completely fair I if
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one of my friends did this I would be like girl.
Don't do it. I'm going to look you in the eye
and I'm going to hold your hand.That's psychotic.
Yeah, it's different. And it's just not necessary.
It's different if you've been talking here's here's the things
that would make it more acceptable.
One, you've been talking for months.
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You Facetimed multiple, multiple, multiple times.
So you know that it's, you know,this person's real.
You've been in like a long distance basically relationship
'cause you talk every day, you text all the time and they
invite you to finally visit them'cause it's like long distance
or something, right? I guess I could see a world
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where that's socially acceptable'cause you have to meet at some
point. Whatever.
And he flies you out for the weekend.
OK, meet, meeting someone virtually, never meeting in
person, not knowing who the fuckyou're going on this trip with,
and then going for three nights.It'd be different again if it
was one night, I suppose. Sure, still bad, still bad, but
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three nights? The reason that people do first
dates that are coffee isn't evenjust to be cheap, it's so that
they don't have the time wasted of their life, their day, their
night. Right, Because you don't want to
be in the whole 4 hours and $200if you don't like this person.
She told us in the middle of thetrip that her flight was almost
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$500 because she bought it the day before.
Crazy because I think ours was like $100.
Right. Ours was so cheap because we
booked it in advance. She paid 500 fucking dollars.
And Availa was a budget airline,right?
So it was like not worth it. It was worse than spirit.
Basically the the. I think it was worse than spirit
the. Fucking seats didn't recline,
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they were paper thin, there was no leg room so she paid $500 to
basically sit in a cardboard box.
No drink service. Yeah, you don't even get water
for free, like and she had to check a bag, so that's an extra
50. Bucks, it was $600.
Just for the just for the plane.And then he didn't pay for her
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food and drinks. Yeah.
So she got a free place to stay and turns out could.
Have gone on a cruise. After the first night it was
evident they hated each other sothen we were on a fucking.
Truck lucky. With two people on a weird four
day first date that decided theyhated each other after day one
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and then argued every second of the rest of the time that we
were near their bodies. It's.
True. We played games, we did code
names, the game they fought. We went to Crater Lake.
They forgot to buy tickets for the boat, so they thought about
that. So luckily we just did our own
thing and we had a great time. But like every second we were
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with them they were arguing and I think didn't someone comment
that they seemed like an old married couple?
Somebody did. Yeah, it was the Booker.
Yeah, Yeah, I think you're right.
Anyways, it was. It was wild though.
It's just not like I thought about like what it what's the I?
I guess I would consider that bold, right?
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What's the boldest thing I did like on a dating app?
Nothing even came close to that.No.
Not, not nothing like what is the boldest?
Thing I. Think the boldest thing I did
was there was a girl that was she had like 3 friends over to
her house and my first time meeting her was getting to the
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house with the friends there. But that's pretty benign by
comparison. Did you all hang out?
Yeah. So it wasn't even a date.
It was a. No, it wasn't even a date.
It was like, come meet me for the first time.
You know that that I feel like was, but I was.
I remember being very nervous because it was like I'm kind of
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having a first date in front of people, but not really.
I don't know, you know what I mean?
So you met on a dating app then?OK.
But that that was, that's the boldest quote, UN quote boldest
thing I can think of. Everybody else that I ever dated
on or off an app was always likelunch or coffee or a drink or,
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you know, something like that. Yeah.
This was wild. It's almost like one of them was
dared. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Yeah, I don't. I don't know.
Or having like a psychotic break.
So anyway, we went on that trip.It was interesting, We still had
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a lot of fun. We saw the Crater Lake, learned
all the facts as you heard, and then we came back and moved.
Yeah. And I got to say we this time
around, we always use movers. We haven't used done it ourself
and God, I mean, the first time we moved it as a couple was the
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last time we moved as a couple by ourselves.
I know it was like, so we broke up, no.
No, no meaning like we went to EU Haul and lifted a fridge
upstairs and like I. Believe it was like 2018 was the
last time. Yeah, somewhere around there.
And we almost died dropping a refrigerator on your head.
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But this time around we used roadway movers, Yes.
Or roadway moving. Yeah.
And yes, they did do a sponsoreddeal with us.
But that aside, amazing. Yeah, we're not getting paid to
mention them on the pod. We only got paid or we only got
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sponsored to post an Instagram and a TikTok.
Yeah, I highly recommend. Fucking love them.
I actually had someone DM me today and they were like, so did
you just do an ad for them or did you really like them?
And I was like it was the easiest ad to make because.
Movers we've ever had. They were amazing.
Best movers we've ever had. It was the only time I've ever
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felt like if I tried to help, I was actually in the way. 100%
and it I will say it was the first time too that we moved
with, we don't have a lot of expensive stuff like most of our
furniture we've accumulated overthe years together and all of
that. And some of it's IKEA stuff,
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some, some of it's, you know, one thing we had was a gift from
someone, stuff like that. We have like a couple of pieces
now that aren't even that expensive, but like, they're
nice. But furniture?
They're important. They're like crazy nice to us.
And so it was the first time moving with that stuff, which
made me kind of nervous, but they literally like they wrapped
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the furniture better than it came in the box it was shipped
in. They wrapped our Sam's Club
cabinet like it was a swaddled infant.
Literally like to the point where you know they had
everything on the truck strappeddown, they could have not
strapped anything down, it all would have been OK because it
was all wrapped and like bundled.
And yeah, it was crazy. But we we used them, they came
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and packed the house and we moved and unpacked at the new
place and off to the races. Now we've just spent the time
getting settled, unpacking and it feels good.
It's always intimidating at first when you start with the
first couple boxes, but we're definitely in like the I would
say we're halfway done. Yeah.
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But the halfway point feels good.
Thank God. Because you can see like you
look around, you go, OK, stuff has its place.
There's a light at the end of. This, I see the potential in
that area, in this area and whatever.
So we're going through it, but it feels good.
Here's the thing. Here's the bone I have to pick.
Shocker. Do it.
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We have a realtor because he sold our house, you know, and
the house sold in every sense. And so technically the job is
done. Sure it.
Is no longer ours. Yeah, we dropped off the keys,
you know, same day we moved, dropped off the keys, called it
a day. We never heard a single peep,
(49:00):
sentence, phone call, text afterthe keys were dropped off.
That was that. It was literally like.
He might be dead, I don't know. I mean, he's not 'cause he's
posting on Instagram, but like, is there no fucking decorum or
niceties anymore? Or like, I don't care.
I don't need presents, gifts showered with anything.
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But like, isn't it like the couth or whatever?
Like isn't it the manners that you get like, oh, a bottle of
wine? Thanks for letting me sell your
house. Yeah, I mean, I like.
A thank you note. I am totally OK with it.
It's weird I think. It's weird.
It's weird. Yeah.
It's just weird. I don't even care.
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I think it's just weird that we talk to this person every day
for a couple months. This huge deal went through, he
made money off of us, and then the second the keys are turned
in, we might as well be dead. Like what?
Yeah, it was. It was a little odd.
It was a little odd, but. But also he markets himself as
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an above and beyond white glove service person.
And then the second you cash thecheck, you're like May.
Maybe, but also like I could seea world in which.
Not even a fucking fruit basket?Come on.
Again, I think it's it's weird. I agree.
It's more just the manners of it.
But I also feel like he's probably had clients that are
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like they go extreme in the other direction.
Like what? Like he'll he never stops
hearing from them. Do you know what I mean?
I do think there's a happy medium with a cordial.
Thanks for working with me. No, I know I agree and.
Also business wise, because evenif it's not about being like
having manners or whatever, wouldn't you say like, hey,
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here's this whatever bouquet of flowers or bottle of wine or
whatever, if you have any friends or future needs, think
of me like. I am a little surprised.
If you have any friends that arelooking to buy, you know
obviously recommend or. Because I would think that that
is how they get the majority of their clients is through word of
mouth and recommendation. Yeah, I don't disagree.
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So it's like the follow through because it's like you did all
the hard parts, you sold the house, you uphill battle.
It was a weird market. All this stuff, all the
paperwork, all the phone calls, all the everything.
The hard part is over. This is the closer.
This is the like smooth smooge. What am I saying?
The schmoozing This is the. Smooth schmoozing.
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This is the schmoozing part where you just like, stamp it
with wax and call it a day. Yeah, yeah.
So I'm just surprised. It is odd and I think that I
think if you or I were Realtors,we would.
I don't think we would like buy somebody a car, no, but there
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would be a standard bottle of wine or box of chocolates or
something. With our face on it.
Yeah, some sort of thing. Edible underwear, you know.
So then when your friends come over to your new place.
Oh wow, who'd you use? Check this out.
They see your face on a bottle of wine.
Congrats, let's have a glass, right?
Yeah, I agree. Is what does it take anyways?
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I mean, the house is sold. I know, I know, I'm over it,
but. And no, that was not my Jude
either. Well.
I well. Shall we get to your Jude?
Hold on, I have one more thing. The Instagram location thing is
fucking weird. OK, I have a take on this.
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What and what's the point of it?So essentially it's the same
thing as Find My Friends on the iPhone.
Right, so every single person that follows you gets to know
where you are. You can.
You can be selective on who seesit.
It could be close friends I guess but it's like but then
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Instagram. My, my take is safe.
My take is, I think it's interesting that people are
freaking out about it and they're also totally comfortable
with sharing their location on the iPhone.
I think it doesn't make sense. I think the larger thing to take
issue with is why do we need to share our locations with
everyone all the time regardlessof what app it's on?
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It's unnecessary. I, you and I have each other's
location for practical reasons. For.
Emergency, I worry about you travelling, you do a lot of
driving for comedy. Like I want to make sure if if
you're, you like go off the map.I know where you are for safety
reasons outside of that. Like be honest with me.
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Do you? When either of us are not
traveling, like just everyday life, how often are you checking
my location? Never.
Also yours doesn't work but. It doesn't.
No, we've gone over this. Somethings wrong with yours?
It might be this dumb fucking. Phone it says location not found
every time I've tried ever before.
So you do try a lot then. No, like 3 times in the last
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year that I've looked because you're not answering a phone
call or something. And I'm like, well, if you
didn't answer the phone, it means you're dead.
But that aside, like I, I literally only check yours on
those occasions, right? Like you just mentioned, I call
you, you're on the road, you don't answer.
Oh God, is she OK? Whatever.
Outside of you. I don't.
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There's no reason for me to havemy friends locations or for me
to share my location with my friends.
And it's not out of a sake of like, oh, what are you up to?
You don't want them to know about.
It's not that as much as it is. You just don't need to know.
It's not healthy for us to know everything all the time about
everyone, Okay, you know, but. My point is, my friends say that
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like doing it. They say they like to check on
their friends like as though they're Sims.
Yeah, that's weird. That's not right.
They like to see like, OK, they're all in bed now.
That's no, I don't like that. OK, I really don't.
Like that, I don't do that. I'm just telling you what.
No, no, no, that's fine. And I'm not trying to be too
harsh with my judgement, but like it's, and here's the other
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deal. I am not the type of person
that's like, oh, don't share your information with corporate
blah blah. I know it's unavoidable to a
certain extent. I'm not like crazy brick wall
when it comes to these things, but opting in to sharing your
physical location with anybody really outside of your spouse or
your closest one or two people, it's just like, why are we doing
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it? So but didn't Instagram
automatically do it and then youhad to turn it off?
I looked at mine like people aresaying that, but then I looked
at my settings and it was off. Default was off.
Oh, I think mine was on. And that that might be the case,
it might be different for everyone, but it is a it's very
unsafe. It's very unsafe for followers
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that don't know you personally to have your location.
You know what I don't get? I don't get close friends on
Instagram. I don't get the fucking
difference. If I'm going to post something,
why do I care if the rest of my followers see it?
I don't really get the close friends thing.
I think it's kind of unnecessarytoo.
Because it's like if I don't want you to.
See it? I'm just going to block you.
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Right, but I but what would I beposting that's not OK for the
rest of my followers to see like?
Yeah, that's what I mean. Like if if I was worried about
it, you wouldn't be able to see my stuff to begin with.
But it makes me feel like peopleare posting like the close
friends thing. I guess if they're posting like
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a meme about work and they don'twant their work friends to see
maybe or something like that. But it makes me feel like the
close friends thing is like people using like slang or
offensive slurs. I'm sure that's how some people
use it. And they only want their close
friends to see it. But it's like those people still
have the Internet and they're still can screenshot it and they
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can still. Right.
Cancel. The way that they'll find it,
right? Yeah, I don't even get it
either. It's crazy to me.
Don't do it. Turn it off in your setting.
It's 1. I feel like it's one of those
things that's going to go away. I just think it's.
Not enough people are gonna. Use it.
I can't believe that someone at Meta, someone at Instagram was
like, people will want to do this.
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It's because they already do. I don't know.
That's crazy. That's what all these things do.
It's like Snapchat, Instagram Stories is they stole that from
Snapchat, you know, Instagram Reels, they stole from something
else. From TikTok.
From TikTok, Instagram location they stole from the iPhone,
Everybody steals from one another to like, because the
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whole obsession is like, well, you can all you can do it in one
place. Now you do it on our app instead
of their app, sure. And it's like this, everybody's
staying there. Did you see TikTok now has like
status cards or whatever? Like, yeah, it's so stupid.
Yeah, it's dumb. It's dumb, but I digress.
(58:22):
Oh, and they're allegedly relaunching Vine, but it's only
going to be AI content. What?
Yeah, I don't get it. So people can't create other
content on it. I think you it's only AI
generated content. Yeah, that's going to be the.
I don't get it. So people can't upload?
(58:44):
What do you mean? No, it's they can upload AI
generated content. I hate this, that's so stupid.
Speaking of things you hate, let's Jude.
Fine, God, hold me at gunpoint to Jude.
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OK, The same trip to Oregon, thesame dude, the same comic, he
sure did open for me. Yeah, my acquaintance, my
friend, he opened for me. And you know, I think I have a
(59:44):
pretty good sense of if people are OK and they're kind of funny
or they're a nice person. And for the most part he's been
those things. However, on this trip, I don't
know if it was maybe the pseudo girlfriend he hated or what, but
he bombed his titties off when he went up first because he was
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opening and there was a room full of perfectly lovely organ
humans. You know not it wasn't three
people in a gymnasium. It was a full.
It was a pretty full room. It was a full restaurant bar of
nice patrons that paid to be there, and they were eating and
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drinking and we were set up for success.
There was a stage, there was a microphone, there was a light,
there were people ready to laughthat bought tickets to see us.
And he sure did. What?
So OK, that's the setting. What you got A?
Problem with it, folks. Keep going, keep going.
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He didn't do well in his set. He turned on the audience and
started yelling at them that it was their fault, that they get
the jokes they deserve and not the jokes he likes or whatever.
And not in one of these like yousee on TikTok tongue in cheek
ways where it's like, ah, fuck you, no.
He was like, I'm a good commuterand you are a bad audience.
(01:01:15):
And yeah, for the all set. Also you've only been on stage
for 10 minutes so far, He was supposed to do 30.
I gave him the signal to get offstage around 15 minutes and was
like get the fuck out of here you're bombing the show.
You're making us look bad to thevenue that booked us.
Like the only job of an opener is to make the room slightly
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better than when they walked in for the headliner to come in and
be more comfortable. And he actively made the room
more uncomfortable than when we walked in and I was so fucking
pissed off. He gets off stage, I go on
stage. What?
Oh, I thought you were trying tocalm me down.
(01:01:57):
I go on stage and do well. It went very well.
I had a great time. You killed it.
Someone sent a shot. You nailed it.
Someone sent a shot onto stage for me to take a shot because
they. Were so into me.
A shot of your favorite alcohol.Green apple crown.
It was so disgusting and I but my social anxiety made me take
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it because I was like oh they sent a free shot.
That's so nice. Oh Oh no, I have to drink this.
Bless you, I don't have to drinkthis.
And then so we went really fucking well.
OK. So it was very different.
So he went on, didn't do well. I went on, did well, whatever.
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I'm not trying to pump myself uptoo much right now.
I'm just giving you the lay of the land here.
It's important for the context because then every moment from
then on in this trip he cold shouldered me for 48 hours like
a baby little bitch boy with a fragile male ego.
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He wouldn't literally speak. We were in the rental car
together, nothing. We went to the fucking lake
together, nothing. We were in his friend's house
together, nothing. We went to wineries together,
nothing. He brought his laptop to the
wineries and sat with earbuds in.
I'm like, why did you even fucking come?
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He was silent in the car. He was silent everywhere.
He didn't fucking speak to me because his little baby bitch
ego was bruised. Miss me with that shit.
I somehow didn't explode on him because I was like, interesting,
you did good. You with your tail between your
legs, sulk in your little silentcorner and be a little fucking
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baby. Poor little baby.
Go, you stand in the corner holding yourself.
I don't know. Fucking justice was served
because in the end he has to live with himself and sleep at
night. And his stupid little ego.
Poor baby. Judgement to the plaintiff.
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Take your stupid fragile male self, stupid fragile male ego
and shove it up your ass and your weird.
Shove your own self up your. Ass your weird mail order bride
that. Was so.
Odd. It was so fucking weird.
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It was one of the weirdest things that the vibes were.
Weird because he brought a random actual literal stranger
on the trip and then he. Made the vibes.
Weirder by bombing and then he made the vibes even weirder by
then being a little bitch about it.
Someone send him this episode. That was my stomach if you're.
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Wondering, All right, everyone, thanks for being patient with
us. Thanks for hanging out for the
recap of the last couple of weeks and we're excited.
I think it was much more than a recap.
I think it was informational. It was basically an episode of
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The Magic School Bus. You learned a lot about Crater
Lake. And candy bars More about.
Crater Lake, The candy bar thing.
I feel like there's still question marks around Crater
Lake. I had all the facts on that one.
OK. Second deepest lake in North
America? Wow. 10th in the world.
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But first deepest lake in America.
Yes. Yeah.
Right. Let me agree, arguably.
You said 7th. Or because she said 7th also.
While you stood behind it. Arguable.
Oh, if she said 7th, how did I know?
Second. Interesting.
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Arguably, arguably my facts. My facts were more fun that I
said the 800 gallons for every person on earth.
I remember that one, and the 2,000,000 gallons an hour is
being sucked into who fucking knows where the earth's asshole.
So now the debate is whose factswere more fun?
(01:06:18):
I'd like to go with who facts? Whose facts were more accurate?
This is what's wrong with America.
OK, have a good week everyone. OK, bye.
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