November 13, 2023 • 29 mins
Strap in, puppy parents! We're about to embark on a thrilling journey of leash and crate training together. We've put together a comprehensive guide to help you navigate through common puppyhood challenges like nipping, mouthing, and even the dreaded leash pulling. The secret isn't just in the tug, but in positive reinforcement and patient exploration, allowing your little furball to learn and grow at their own pace.
Switching gears, we then jump into the exciting world of reward-based training for your 11-week old puppy. We're pulling back the curtain on how to use a prong collar properly, and why treats aren't the only rewards in play. Learn how to tap into your pup's natural curiosity and energy, and why those sniff breaks during walks aren't just essential, they're game-changing. We promise, your walks will never be the same again!
We're also delving into the nitty-gritty of bite inhibition in dogs. We share strategies on how to avoid negative reinforcement, identify overstimulation, and even how to use a simple 'yip' to correct behavior. We haven't forgotten about those 10% of puppies who don't respond to the 'yip' - we've got solutions for them too. Lastly, we're debunking the myth that effective dog training must be expensive. Listen in for affordable training tips, a sneak peek into our free evaluation call, and our own personal experiences on how a well-trained dog leads to a happy and stress-free home. Now, who's ready to get started?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Everybody welcome to a podcast for dog people.
I'm John and I'm Jamie and weare your personal dog experts.
We're here to help you betterunderstand your dogs and the
wide spectrum of behaviors theyexhibit, so join us on this
journey to learn everything.
Dog, everybody.
Welcome back to the BostonUniversity show today.
(00:20):
We are this week and Really twoweeks in a row.
Yes, we're gonna be talkingabout puppies, puppies, puppies,
puppies, and talk about puppyquestions.
Some best practices, if you'refollowing along on Instagram.
We touched on crate training,as we're exposing our current
rehab dog, clarence, to thecrate.
He's got some bad associationswith it, so we're gonna work on
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getting positive associations.
So we're touching on cratetraining.
Touching on nipping andmouthing and General puppy
craziness.
Yeah, I Already forgot what youhad said to me.
Leash walking is another thingwe're gonna be touching on.
Yes, oh, how do you set yourpuppy up for success as they
learn to leash and they learnhow to walk, because this is a
(01:05):
lot of people don't realize.
It's a critical time becausethat's where they can develop
these learned.
What is it called?
condition this conditionedreflexes where they're gonna
want to start to pull to getthat extra Freedom and they're
gonna learn to do that everytime they're on a walk.
So we want to be careful aboutwhat we do and what we teach
them and what we install leashwalking.
So I have a puppy right in.
(01:28):
This puppy Doesn't know how towalk on a leash period.
What are my best practices?
How should I approach this?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
So I always tell my puppy parents right from day one
because this is a big mistakethat we make.
We will not buy Proper hardwarein the beginning because we're
like, all the puppies gonna grow, I don't want to spend money on
a harness that's gonna fit themfor five seconds, which I
totally understand.
But the problem with this is ifwe just walk our puppies on a
(01:57):
regular collar or a martin galecollar From the beginning, they
are like little drunk aliens inthe beginning.
Right, they're all over theplace.
They don't understand how towalk tethered to somebody yet,
so they they're notunderstanding the idea of, like,
if I go this way and get tugged, it's gonna hurt my neck or
whatever, right, so they're allover the place.
And a lot of times when we havea puppy, when we look at the
(02:17):
whole thing, the whole bigpicture, we're exhausted.
Right, our bandwidth is superlow.
Yep our expectations are way toohigh and we are overwhelmed and
we're just all over the place.
So what tends to happen and I'msure you've done this or you've
seen somebody driving by who'sgot a puppy and they're on their
phone, they're not payingattention and they're just
(02:39):
walking this dog or just liketalking the entire time and not
Actually doing anything that'sworthwhile for this dog does not
set this dog up for success.
So what I usually tell peopleis to get proper hardware,
because when you don't andyou're distracted and your
bandwidth is low, what's gonnahappen is you're gonna walk this
dog who is all over the place,bound to get that pressure on
(03:00):
the neck from the back and Thenwant to pull against you, but on
the flip side, you're notcommunicating properly.
So if puppy wants to go rightbut you want to go left because
that's in your head, you'regoing that way.
That's, that's the goal for you.
You're just gonna tug puppyalong and Puppy's not gonna
understand what you're doingright, versus saying, come on,
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good boy, come on, good girl,come with mommy Right or daddy,
and they'd be like there.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
You know, they're puppies, they can be like okay,
yeah, that's great, right You'reall excited, you know right,
you're not allowing theopportunity for Any kind of
conditioned reflex to begin.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yes, so in reality, what they learn over time?
Because you're just tugging andyou're not giving anything
proper for them to learn from.
You're Just tugging puppy alongso they learn after a while.
This tug, tug, tug at my neck.
I can eventually, as I getbigger and as I become more, I
want to discover and I'm moreindependent and I really I'm
(03:57):
interested in this smell and I'mnot so easily malleable.
I am going to start pullingagainst that tug Because my body
is telling me to do so, notbecause I'm being stubborn
because a lot of people like tothrow that word out there.
My dog is stubborn and I'm like.
No stubborn does not exist in adog's world.
They do not have the capabilityfor that emotion.
(04:17):
What's happening is their,their brain and their body are
saying what I'm doing physicallyRight now smelling walking in
this direction Suits me betterand meets my needs better than
you tugging me along for theunteam time.
Right so they're going tosubconsciously pull against you
and a lot of times you'll seewhat we call Pancaking, where
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they grip the ground, their bodygets super low and they refuse
to move.
That's the worst.
Okay, now, if you have a dogwho is doing that's a
conditioned reflex.
Their, their brain is notsaying oh, let me piss mom and
dad off, let me see you knowwhat I can, what I can do to
annoy them.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Their body is literally Responding to your
pressure on the leash right andthey've learned that if they do
this, they, they get to stay,they get to stay Even if it's
just for 10 seconds.
While you try and navigate thatsituation, they start to figure
it out.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yep, I or you get the dog down the line.
Who gets a little bit olderpeople come to me and they're
like my dog is just pullingtowards nothing.
You've ever seen a dog who'sjust pulling and they don't even
know where they are, butthey're determined to go
somewhere and people are like Idon't get it, like they're
better towards the end of thewalk.
Yes, because in the beginningthey're so over excited and they
never learned how to calmthemselves down.
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Then we get into impulsecontrol, but now they're getting
that leash tug right, sothey're just chugging right
along.
They're like pull, pull, pull,pull, pull.
I gotta pull, gotta pull, gottapull when in reality they're
not even going towards anythingin specifics.
So what we're doing is thatwe're doing them into service
from the very beginning.
This is not something thatneeds to be worked on once it's
done and you have a puller.
(05:49):
This needs to be done in thevery beginning, so we don't even
get there, right.
So a couple of things you cando instead Proper leash hardware
in the beginning, right?
So we love the easy walkharness.
That's just our suggestionacross the board.
I mean, there's some dogs thatit doesn't fit well, just their
bodies are kind of weird and youknow you get some weird mixed
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breeds that you know they'resuper barrel-chested but their
legs are like two inches long.
So like it depends on yourdog's posture and their body,
but majority I would say 95% ofdogs that we work with.
The easy walk is a dream and itfits great, as long as you know
you cinch it up in certainplaces.
We suggest double clipping theleash, so the leash clip will be
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double clipped to the harnessD-ring and the collar D-ring at
the same time.
This will give you a bettercontrol and it will not allow
for that harness to get in theway of your dog's gait.
So their shoulders it won'tblock their shoulders from
walking properly.
Proper leash walking hardwarethat's first right.
And then talking to your dog,your puppy, right, so to speak.
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You have a little tiny puppyand you're walking and you you
know everyone's like oh, how doI get my puppy to walk on a
leash?
This is the time you need toput the work in.
Okay, even though you'rebandwidth is small and you're
exhausted and you're overwhelmedand overstimulated, this is the
time to put in the work.
Have your treats, your treatpouch, you go walking.
Don't have high expectationsand don't try to take them far.
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This is like a two house downtype of situation.
Okay, you're using your highvalue treats.
I like to use string cheese fora lot of my puppies because
it's okay on the belly, versususing something that's really
high in fat.
And you're just gonna talk toyour puppy.
You're gonna be good girl, goodboy, look at mommy, look at
daddy, whatever.
And you're gonna keep talkingto them and every single time
they kind of give you like thatlook, you're gonna treat them
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and you're gonna tell them thatthey're awesome.
You are building a rewardhistory.
Your dog is learning.
Oh, when I pay attention to momor dad on this walk, they give
me good stuff.
Not only are they giving mefood, but they're also giving me
tons of praise and love, whichbeefs me up and makes me feel
really good.
That is a lot better thansticking with this one smell
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that I can't break away from.
Right, you have to, like youpick your options here.
What's more valuable Love, foodand affection from my parents
or the smell that I really getnothing out of other than a
little bit of stimulation, andstimulation is great.
That's where the other part oflike not having high
expectations is like your dog'soutside and it's a puppy and
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this is new for them.
So, like, give them that timeto sniff without kind of like
chucking them along with theleash, give them that time to
stimulate.
So it's a balancing act.
But you're creating that rewardhistory of them saying, yes,
when we're outside, mom and dadtalk to me, I get all these
resources and we kind of like wejust float along.
Right, if they're pulling andthey're lunging towards certain
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things again, like if you're onthat easy walk, it's gonna be a
lot better to control becausethey're gonna actually get
turned back towards you withoutany pain or discomfort and
they're gonna understand thatlunging really doesn't actually
work for them that well.
So that is the way you start.
But it really is like nottugging on that leash and
conditioning that reflex and Ilike to explain the condition
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reflex like if you have a, maybeyou have an older dog, maybe
you don't have a puppy, butyou've seen a dog lunge before
and you know what their triggersare, right, like, let's say,
they're reactive to other dogsand you see a dog like that just
came out of its house, you'regonna cock your arm back and
you're gonna actually widen yourstance because you don't wanna
fall, you don't wanna be, youknow, dragged along with your
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dog.
As you know, they're gonna barkin, lunge like they usually do.
So you try to fix your body ina way that protects you and your
body, so you don't obviouslypull your shoulder out.
That's a conditioned reflex.
You didn't tell your brain todo that.
Your brain saw the situationunfolding and said, okay, what
do we need to do?
What's about to happen?
And it does it to protectitself.
(09:45):
It's not something that was aconscious decision in your brain
.
So that's very similar to whatgoes on for our dogs when they
feel that pull.
It's not something they thinkabout like, oh, I gotta pull now
because I feel this pressure.
It's just something thathappens to their body.
It's a conditioned reflex.
Yes, so that is what I usuallysuggest for people.
I literally had a clientyesterday who's he's not a puppy
(10:07):
, but we've been working sincehe's a little bit younger and he
actually got out of his gate.
Accidentally.
Someone did not close the gateand he got out and mom had built
a really good reward historywith the touch cue, as per our
training, and instead of sayingno, come back here.
And getting all angry, she kepther composure and said touch,
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really happily, and this dogboom.
She said it once and he waslike oh crap, I don't wanna be
out here.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
And he came right back and I was so happy because
not only did we avoid an issuebecause there was actually
another dog, that's why he wasup on the gate, because there
was a dog outside being walkedDid we avoid a scuffle and a
traumatic event, but you know,we not only that, but now it,
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even more so, hits the rewardhistory home, because now then
she totally showered him withtreats and praise like he was
the king that night and I waslike that's so good, because he
really needs to know that whathe did was awesome and that's
exactly what we need everysingle time, god forbid that
happens again.
So you know, that's just anexample of like how the reward
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history kind of works.
When you're working with yourdog and you're communicating
with them consistently on a walkand you're not distracted on
your phone, they will give youwhat you're looking for.
I had another client that justwas here the other day for an
in-person session and we werewalking and, like dad, was
floored by her attentiveness tome on the walk.
(11:38):
Now, we had just met and Iexplained to him listen, this is
a little bit unrealisticbecause I'm basically Santa
Claus.
You know, I'm this high-pitched, excited cheerleader with a bag
of treats and she's not used tothat from you, right?
Like there's other variablesthat are in your relationship,
right, like you work from home.
So there's times where you'reessentially in her eyes,
ignoring her.
You know you feed her Like youhave a different relationship
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than her and I.
We just met and this is who Iam.
I am the treat lady, you've beenconsistent for the last 15
minutes of treats, exactly, andthat's all she knows is that I'm
consistent, and when she checksin with me on the walk she gets
rewarded and she thinks I'm thebest thing since sliced bread.
But you can put that in yourday.
The only reason why we don't dothat is because we get lazy and
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we get complacent and we thinkit's not necessary anymore.
I truly believe our dogs arehere for a short period of time.
They should be spoiled andloved up on 24, seven and a lot
of people say, oh, I don't wantto be dependent on treats.
But in reality it's like thesedogs are here for what?
14 years, if you're lucky.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
If you're lucky, if you're lucky.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
like a lot of people, I feel like now it's like eight
, nine, because everyone'sgetting cancer, but like they're
only here for a short period oftime, who cares if you're
dependent on treats?
Wouldn't you rather that thanhave a dog who's super reactive
or doesn't listen to you at all?
And it's this fear-basedrelationship.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
But wouldn't you rather be dependent on treats
and praise than being dependenton a remote controller or a
collar?
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Like I don't get it right, like you would rather do
that You'd rather hold a remotecontrol or a prong collar than
just have a really fun time withyour dog, right?
And if you are the one thatwould rather hold the remote
control or the prong collar,like, stop getting dogs because
you're in it for the wrongreason, you don't need to have a
dog.
It's not a necessity, right?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
That's a big thing too.
It's an accessory for a lot ofthese people, I know but stop,
because you're not doing anybodyany favors.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
So yeah, did I miss anything with that?
I don't think so yeah we justwant a really good, solid reward
, history and fun for your dogon walks Because, again, if
they're not having fun, they'renot gonna listen to you and
they're not gonna go on thewalks.
They're not gonna wanna yeah.
So that's the hardware point ofview.
Okay, when you use anythingelse, right, like people will
say oh, prong collar works, yeah, it works because it hurts and
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you can try to the ends of theearth.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Don't tell us it doesn't hurt If it didn't hurt
it wouldn't work.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
It wouldn't work, it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Think about it, Seriously think about it.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
And again, the walk is for them.
A lot of people.
I have some clients that cometo me like, listen, I wanna get
off the prong collar.
I only use it because I'mterrified, because I really
think that my dog is gonna getoff.
Fine, come to us, we'll helpyou get off that prong collar
and find a safe harness thatwill work for you and make you
feel confident on your walk soyou're not also anxious.
But yeah, that is my suggestionfor good, proper leash walking.
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Do not have high expectations inthe beginning for your puppy.
Create that really awesomereward history.
Pay attention right.
Engage with them, talk to them.
They are so malleable at thisage.
When they're younger, they'llgo with you if you're happy.
They don't care what you'resaying, right?
And then also give them time tostimulate and sniff, because
that's valuable and that'snecessary for a dog.
(14:40):
Don't just expect them to likewalk for exercise.
The second they come out of thewomb.
That's not what they're lookingfor.
They're looking to like sniffand smell.
Yeah, so let them do that.
Have that, put that into yourwalk right.
Say okay, five minutes in thebeginning to let them stimulate
in the front yard and then maybe10 minutes or five minutes of
walking down the street.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah, and then one more thing back on the prong
collar I just want to make onemore note.
The prong collar was neverdesigned or intended to be used
as the primary collar, so you'renot supposed to be walking your
dog on a prong collar.
So if you're worried about yourdog is so strong that you can't
walk them on a regular harness,you're afraid something's going
to break.
The prong collar is going tobreak before a harness breaks
Period.
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They're not intended for thatkind of usage.
They're intended to be asecondary collar that you can
provide a correction through.
It's not supposed to hold yourdog back.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
A lot of people don't know that A lot of trainers who
use prong collars.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Don't know this.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yes, Like I've had people come to me and their dogs
are like in their house whenI'm doing a virtual session.
The dog just has a prong collarand I'm like is this how we
live Next time you?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
see a, as long as you have a reputable police
department in your area and theyhave a canine unit.
Look at what they have.
They don't walk the canine onthe prong collar.
The prong collar is there torelease a bite.
When they bite, uh, when theyapprehend someone and they want
to release that bite, they usethe prong collar for that.
Then they're not walking thedog on the prong collar.
So something to consider.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yeah, yeah.
You know, I never reallythought about that.
Like, if the policemen are notdoing it with our canine dogs,
why are we doing it with ourfamily dogs, which is as old
school Milton as you can getyeah.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
All right.
So if you follow us onInstagram, you notice last week
we were taking questions on ourstory for this podcast and the
next podcast.
I have a really good questionfor you from our friends at
Pities and Pals Rescue and itlooks like they have an 11 week
old dog that they are caring forright now must be in foster and
uh.
Lots and lots of puppy nipping,trying everything, every
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possible option, with no success.
Um, I don't know what everypossible option sounds like, so
let's give them the bestpossible uh options to move
forward from here.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
So what I would assume cause this.
This puppy is in foster right,so I'm assuming that puppy was
not with mom which is typicallythe issue usually is right Is an
11 week old.
That's not what their familytotally normal, totally on its
own, no other siblings.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
It's expected that they're going to have nipping
and mouthing problems becausethey don't have a proper outlet
to learn on right.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
So, uh, puppies learn bite inhibition.
That's the um.
The learning of how hard is toohard, right, and there are a
lot of um dogs who do not learnthis from puppyhood.
And I will have clients thatcome to me and they're like,
they're a little bit old andthey still play really rough,
right, Even though they'rereally good dogs.
They do not have proper biteinhibition, so they are still
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malady to the point where it'spainful, even though they're not
intending to.
So that's that pressure for thedog to learn.
Oh, that's too hard.
Sorry, I didn't mean to do thatto you.
Um, so if this puppy did notlearn already at 11 weeks from
its siblings or mom, dependingon the past history, right,
that's something that we have tolook at, so we have to give a
little bit of extra empathy.
Um, now my other like thing inmy head is like, okay, lots of
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puppies that are in foster tendto be with other friendly dogs
in foster, right.
So I'm thinking, okay, is thisother dog in foster, Um, you
know, more submissive andassertive enough to correct yes,
yeah.
Right, cause that's proper.
So we have a puppy who's withother dogs.
This is only in a situationwhere they're with other dogs.
Is the older dog confidentenough or have the personality
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to correct that puppy properly?
Right, and corrections arenecessary between dogs.
So puppy would only learn oh Ibite, I bit you too hard by the
other dog, either growling orbarking at them or crying, right
.
And if that's not happening,like the dog is just submissive
and like running away or likeallowing it, this puppy's going
to think it's okay.
Right, these are like we needproper boundaries.
(18:38):
Now let's say this puppy isn'tin foster with another dog and
it's in foster just with humans,right.
Then it's unfortunately on usas humans to really help this
dog along.
We have to keep our patientssuper low, that's.
I mean I'm super high, right?
So we have to make sure thatour frustration is not mounting.
Then the dog is feeding off ofthat, because the more we get
frustrated, the moreoverstimulated we get.
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We are feeding that chaos.
I love this quote.
It's more about kids, but italso works with dogs.
Is an escalated parent can'tdeescalate and escalate a child.
If your puppy is like in Cujomode, losing its mind, tantrum
in target.
That is not the time that weare going to be teaching this,
because they are not in a mentalstate to accept this.
I you know, zoomie mode, cujomode.
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It's not the time where theireyes are bulging out of their
head and they look at the sharkfrom Nemo.
Not the time right.
So we need to pick times wherethey're super calm, they had
proper mental stimulation,frozen bones, frozen cons, work
to eat, toys that are soothingtheir teeth and, you know, kind
of meeting that expectation interms of, like, oral fixation
and stuff like that.
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Once they get that, they'vepotted, they had a nap, they're
not over tired, they're, they'renot hungry, they are like you,
you've met all the needs, right,you met all the needs and now
we're just like chilling andwe're like playing a little bit
and there's some toys or whatnot.
That's the time I usually tellmy parents to sit on the floor
and you know, being in a reallyengaging presence, and offer
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your hands, like literally offeryour hands out and let's see
what they're going to do.
Most of the times puppies willcome to know they're like oh,
you're giving me your hands.
When they do this, when theyactually bite down, I am pro
using the Yip noise.
I find this works really reallywell for the majority of dogs
not all dogs, but majority ofthe dogs.
So you offer those hands whenthey when they bite down, not
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before, not after, when theybite down really high pitch, I'm
not.
I'm got to do it the right wayon here.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Like that.
Sorry If that was too loud.
John will have to.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
No, you're good.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Okay, and they usually bounce back and they're
like, oh my God, what was that?
Right, when they stop and theylook at you concerned, you say
good boy, good girl, thank you.
Right, you're letting them knowwhen they stop that, remarking
that behavior, right, but youshowed them how that hurt, thank
you for stopping, right, wecan't just do the Yip and go
about our business.
We need to show, because a lotof times if you ever notice with
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dogs dog on dog, puppy nips,older dog will yelp or growl.
When puppy stops, they'llusually give and this is Oakley,
I've seen him do this give akiss or a nuzzle or like, um, uh
, physical marker of like we'regood, right, it's fine, thank
you.
Thank you for listening.
Um, that's how dogs communicate.
So we have to even though it'sdifficult and we are humans, we
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do have to try and emulate thatwe're not hurting them back,
cause that teaches nothing.
Right, we're not fightingviolence with violence.
We are not, you know, puttingour hands around their, their
muzzle and yelling at them.
That won't work, cause they'renot understanding that.
Correction yelling or puttingyour hand around the muzzle does
not say you bit me too hard.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
They're not yet.
They're not creating thatassociation.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
No they're just like oh wow, you're rough.
Yeah Well, for your rough, Ican be rough.
So we don't want to meetviolence with violence.
We don't want to meet fire withfire.
We want to say, oh, that hurtme, right.
And when you stop, that's whenwe can continue our play right,
or our, or our affection towardseach other.
And sometimes this will get dogsum, elevated.
They yip will sometimesbackfire and they get over
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stimulated.
That's when you have a dogwho's probably not getting their
needs needs met on a dailybasis.
They're more, um, emotionallycharged at a drop of a hat.
So that's something that wewant to look at.
They're very intelligent,they're hyper focused, they're
anxious, um, they've got a lotof pent up energy.
They're, um, the dogs who lookfor that negative attention
really, really quickly.
Those dogs are the ones thatare going to have a little bit
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of a harder time with the Yip,because it instantly gets them
zero to 10.
Most dogs I would say 90% dofine with the Yip and thank you
after Um, but if they come back,you're going to continue to do
it, um, if they don't getoverstimulated, if they're not
coming back and biting youharder, but they're like Ooh,
like they're just re exploring.
Continue with the Yip If theycome at you harder now.
They're like play bowing andthey like think it's it's a game
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.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
It's a game.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
I want you to completely, um, get rid of the
Yip.
Don't, don't re attempt that.
We just got to figure out ifyour dog is in that 10% category
, um, and we have to find adifferent method, right?
So um with that.
We had this with Sage myparents puppy.
Um, she was the one.
If you saw on Instagram shewent viral that we were quote
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unquote fostering for anotherfamily, but in reality it was
their Christmas gift.
But we had to get her good withtheir current dog, gatsby, who
you know doesn't like other dogs.
Now they're besties.
Um, she really struggled withbite inhibition.
She was a dog who the Yip didnot work for.
Yeah Right, like.
She still slightly struggleswith how hard is too hard when
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she gets overstimulated.
She goes zero to a hundredsometimes and sees red, even
though she's not doing itaggressively intense and, and
you know, on purpose for her.
Um, her, her zero to a hundredis is a quick sometimes.
So we have to make sure thatshe's on a proper nap schedule.
So I would really urge pittiesand pals to look at this dog's
schedule.
When is it happening the mostright?
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Is it constant or is it justlike in the bewitching hours at
night?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Right.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Right, because then we need to head that off with if
it's happening at five o'clock.
That puppy needs um a frozenbone and then a nap.
Yeah, bypass that timeframeright Puppy teethering puppy
teethering, anything that umwill kind of bypass you through
that period of time and meet theneed, right, because they're
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definitely feeling that theyneed to get that energy out.
We're not just ignoring thefact that they need something.
We're just kind of like puzzlepiecing around our activities,
like if you wanna play with thepuppy, the puppy absolutely
needs play, but not during thattime frame that it usually loses
its mind, right, like you haveto be super smart about what
we're doing.
So maybe that's a crate timewith the Pup-sicle or something
safe for them to that's highvalue in the crate, right, so
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they have a break.
Or if it's like early in themorning when they just wake up,
like that's a good time toattempt, you know, outside stuff
where it's hands off but theycan still simulate, right.
So it's you know.
I'd love to talk to Pitties andPals about this a little bit
more in depth and see whatthey've tried so far, because
the situation, I mean there's somany different possible options
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.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Yeah, and bite inhibition is really important.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
It's really important .
Speaker 1 (24:58):
And it's very consequential down the line of
you don't want an adult dog withadult teeth in an adult
situation where maybe they'restressed out or somebody's
scaring them, where they don'thave bite inhibition, so they
just give it all they got, andwhat should have been a warning
snap is a full on bite.
And that's a dog that nevergrew up with bite inhibition.
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So it's on us to do the best wecan to teach it in lieu of
their family.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yep, that's the situation we're in.
One other thing I just thoughtof Pudge, our own foster fail
puppy.
We've had her since three weeksold.
She was biting the crap she wasbad for sharp teeth.
Okay, Now Lil Chihuahua mix,feisty little brat lover to
death.
But what we actually realized Irealized earlier on, but nobody
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was listening to me.
I was like there's somethingwrong, Her belly hurts, it's
distended.
They tested her for worms, butthey didn't test for tapeworms,
which was not the most likely.
You know, usually tapeworms arerare.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Once they find out, I mean it should have been
assumed in that situation inhindsight, because they were all
flea infested.
That's how tapeworms aretransmitted.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
But you know they, I think they had tested once and
like maybe it didn't come up.
And then as she got a littlebit older they grew.
She wound up having a verylarge amount of tapeworms in her
tiny little three pound body.
And once we dewormed her sheactually was much, much better.
So she was just reallyuncomfortable.
So even in this situation, Ialways tell people, if your
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puppy is abnormally feisty,abnormally like quick to get
nasty, we have to look a littlebit further, right?
If they're in pain, if they'rein discomfort, check the teeth.
Right now this puppy's a littlebit early to have teeth issues.
But I have another client whosepuppy is around six months and
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he's still biting them likecrazy, right.
So we were on the phone theother day and I said can you
check his teeth for me?
Lo and behold, he had a babycanine wedge between two adult
teeth and he was in excruciatingpain.
So I was like he needs to go tothe vet.
He needs to get that pulledbecause he's just pissed off all
the time.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Did they pull it yeah ?
Speaker 2 (27:08):
And I think he's doing a lot better now.
So, like little things likethis that you like, there are
those random things.
That's why when we do ourtrainings, we look at the whole
dog.
I need I can't just say correctthis dog, right, he's not
listening to the normal trainingmethods, right On nipping like
let's start correcting.
No, I don't go that route.
We got to see, look at thewhole thing.
This is like medical too.
We have to make sure thatthey're okay before we think
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that there's something actuallywrong with this dog.
He just had a tooth that waswedged and it's painful, right?
Just imagine having a toothacheall the time.
So I don't think that wouldnecessarily be the case for this
11 week old puppy that's infoster, but it's definitely
worth a shot looking at theteeth and making sure that
everything looks okay.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Okay, yeah, I think that sums it up.
Well, I'm sure we'll be intouch with them about we'll clip
this and make it a real.
Yeah, so they could see it forsure.
Cool, All right, that's.
We're going to do this in twoparts.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
So that wraps up part one.
Look for part two Puppies,puppies, puppies, puppies.
Part two It'll be so I'llpublish this on Monday, because
we're a little late this week,because last week was insane.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
You mean today?
Yes, but people don't know whattoday is oh no, I was just
asking for my own puppy.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
So this one part one will be Monday and we are going
to publish part two on Wednesday, like we normally do.
And yeah, I think that's it forthis one.
Should I do a proper outro?
It doesn't feel right to do aproper outro for just recording
another one right after itdoesn't matter, I'll do a proper
outro.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Okay, go ahead.
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We are this week and Really twoweeks in a row.
Yes, we're gonna be talkingabout puppies, puppies, puppies,
puppies, and talk about puppyquestions.
Some best practices, if you'refollowing along on Instagram.
We touched on crate training,as we're exposing our current
rehab dog, clarence, to thecrate.
He's got some bad associationswith it, so we're gonna work on
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getting positive associations.
So we're touching on cratetraining.
Touching on nipping andmouthing and General puppy
craziness.
Yeah, I Already forgot what youhad said to me.
Leash walking is another thingwe're gonna be touching on.
Yes, oh, how do you set yourpuppy up for success as they
learn to leash and they learnhow to walk, because this is a
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lot of people don't realize.
It's a critical time becausethat's where they can develop
these learned.
What is it called?
condition this conditionedreflexes where they're gonna
want to start to pull to getthat extra Freedom and they're
gonna learn to do that everytime they're on a walk.
So we want to be careful aboutwhat we do and what we teach
them and what we install leashwalking.
So I have a puppy right in.
(01:28):
This puppy Doesn't know how towalk on a leash period.
What are my best practices?
How should I approach this?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
So I always tell my puppy parents right from day one
because this is a big mistakethat we make.
We will not buy Proper hardwarein the beginning because we're
like, all the puppies gonna grow, I don't want to spend money on
a harness that's gonna fit themfor five seconds, which I
totally understand.
But the problem with this is ifwe just walk our puppies on a
(01:57):
regular collar or a martin galecollar From the beginning, they
are like little drunk aliens inthe beginning.
Right, they're all over theplace.
They don't understand how towalk tethered to somebody yet,
so they they're notunderstanding the idea of, like,
if I go this way and get tugged, it's gonna hurt my neck or
whatever, right, so they're allover the place.
And a lot of times when we havea puppy, when we look at the
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whole thing, the whole bigpicture, we're exhausted.
Right, our bandwidth is superlow.
Yep our expectations are way toohigh and we are overwhelmed and
we're just all over the place.
So what tends to happen and I'msure you've done this or you've
seen somebody driving by who'sgot a puppy and they're on their
phone, they're not payingattention and they're just
(02:39):
walking this dog or just liketalking the entire time and not
Actually doing anything that'sworthwhile for this dog does not
set this dog up for success.
So what I usually tell peopleis to get proper hardware,
because when you don't andyou're distracted and your
bandwidth is low, what's gonnahappen is you're gonna walk this
dog who is all over the place,bound to get that pressure on
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the neck from the back and Thenwant to pull against you, but on
the flip side, you're notcommunicating properly.
So if puppy wants to go rightbut you want to go left because
that's in your head, you'regoing that way.
That's, that's the goal for you.
You're just gonna tug puppyalong and Puppy's not gonna
understand what you're doingright, versus saying, come on,
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good boy, come on, good girl,come with mommy Right or daddy,
and they'd be like there.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
You know, they're puppies, they can be like okay,
yeah, that's great, right You'reall excited, you know right,
you're not allowing theopportunity for Any kind of
conditioned reflex to begin.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yes, so in reality, what they learn over time?
Because you're just tugging andyou're not giving anything
proper for them to learn from.
You're Just tugging puppy alongso they learn after a while.
This tug, tug, tug at my neck.
I can eventually, as I getbigger and as I become more, I
want to discover and I'm moreindependent and I really I'm
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interested in this smell and I'mnot so easily malleable.
I am going to start pullingagainst that tug Because my body
is telling me to do so, notbecause I'm being stubborn
because a lot of people like tothrow that word out there.
My dog is stubborn and I'm like.
No stubborn does not exist in adog's world.
They do not have the capabilityfor that emotion.
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What's happening is their,their brain and their body are
saying what I'm doing physicallyRight now smelling walking in
this direction Suits me betterand meets my needs better than
you tugging me along for theunteam time.
Right so they're going tosubconsciously pull against you
and a lot of times you'll seewhat we call Pancaking, where
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they grip the ground, their bodygets super low and they refuse
to move.
That's the worst.
Okay, now, if you have a dogwho is doing that's a
conditioned reflex.
Their, their brain is notsaying oh, let me piss mom and
dad off, let me see you knowwhat I can, what I can do to
annoy them.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Their body is literally Responding to your
pressure on the leash right andthey've learned that if they do
this, they, they get to stay,they get to stay Even if it's
just for 10 seconds.
While you try and navigate thatsituation, they start to figure
it out.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yep, I or you get the dog down the line.
Who gets a little bit olderpeople come to me and they're
like my dog is just pullingtowards nothing.
You've ever seen a dog who'sjust pulling and they don't even
know where they are, butthey're determined to go
somewhere and people are like Idon't get it, like they're
better towards the end of thewalk.
Yes, because in the beginningthey're so over excited and they
never learned how to calmthemselves down.
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Then we get into impulsecontrol, but now they're getting
that leash tug right, sothey're just chugging right
along.
They're like pull, pull, pull,pull, pull.
I gotta pull, gotta pull, gottapull when in reality they're
not even going towards anythingin specifics.
So what we're doing is thatwe're doing them into service
from the very beginning.
This is not something thatneeds to be worked on once it's
done and you have a puller.
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This needs to be done in thevery beginning, so we don't even
get there, right.
So a couple of things you cando instead Proper leash hardware
in the beginning, right?
So we love the easy walkharness.
That's just our suggestionacross the board.
I mean, there's some dogs thatit doesn't fit well, just their
bodies are kind of weird and youknow you get some weird mixed
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breeds that you know they'resuper barrel-chested but their
legs are like two inches long.
So like it depends on yourdog's posture and their body,
but majority I would say 95% ofdogs that we work with.
The easy walk is a dream and itfits great, as long as you know
you cinch it up in certainplaces.
We suggest double clipping theleash, so the leash clip will be
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double clipped to the harnessD-ring and the collar D-ring at
the same time.
This will give you a bettercontrol and it will not allow
for that harness to get in theway of your dog's gait.
So their shoulders it won'tblock their shoulders from
walking properly.
Proper leash walking hardwarethat's first right.
And then talking to your dog,your puppy, right, so to speak.
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You have a little tiny puppyand you're walking and you you
know everyone's like oh, how doI get my puppy to walk on a
leash?
This is the time you need toput the work in.
Okay, even though you'rebandwidth is small and you're
exhausted and you're overwhelmedand overstimulated, this is the
time to put in the work.
Have your treats, your treatpouch, you go walking.
Don't have high expectationsand don't try to take them far.
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This is like a two house downtype of situation.
Okay, you're using your highvalue treats.
I like to use string cheese fora lot of my puppies because
it's okay on the belly, versususing something that's really
high in fat.
And you're just gonna talk toyour puppy.
You're gonna be good girl, goodboy, look at mommy, look at
daddy, whatever.
And you're gonna keep talkingto them and every single time
they kind of give you like thatlook, you're gonna treat them
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and you're gonna tell them thatthey're awesome.
You are building a rewardhistory.
Your dog is learning.
Oh, when I pay attention to momor dad on this walk, they give
me good stuff.
Not only are they giving mefood, but they're also giving me
tons of praise and love, whichbeefs me up and makes me feel
really good.
That is a lot better thansticking with this one smell
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that I can't break away from.
Right, you have to, like youpick your options here.
What's more valuable Love, foodand affection from my parents
or the smell that I really getnothing out of other than a
little bit of stimulation, andstimulation is great.
That's where the other part oflike not having high
expectations is like your dog'soutside and it's a puppy and
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this is new for them.
So, like, give them that timeto sniff without kind of like
chucking them along with theleash, give them that time to
stimulate.
So it's a balancing act.
But you're creating that rewardhistory of them saying, yes,
when we're outside, mom and dadtalk to me, I get all these
resources and we kind of like wejust float along.
Right, if they're pulling andthey're lunging towards certain
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things again, like if you're onthat easy walk, it's gonna be a
lot better to control becausethey're gonna actually get
turned back towards you withoutany pain or discomfort and
they're gonna understand thatlunging really doesn't actually
work for them that well.
So that is the way you start.
But it really is like nottugging on that leash and
conditioning that reflex and Ilike to explain the condition
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reflex like if you have a, maybeyou have an older dog, maybe
you don't have a puppy, butyou've seen a dog lunge before
and you know what their triggersare, right, like, let's say,
they're reactive to other dogsand you see a dog like that just
came out of its house, you'regonna cock your arm back and
you're gonna actually widen yourstance because you don't wanna
fall, you don't wanna be, youknow, dragged along with your
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dog.
As you know, they're gonna barkin, lunge like they usually do.
So you try to fix your body ina way that protects you and your
body, so you don't obviouslypull your shoulder out.
That's a conditioned reflex.
You didn't tell your brain todo that.
Your brain saw the situationunfolding and said, okay, what
do we need to do?
What's about to happen?
And it does it to protectitself.
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It's not something that was aconscious decision in your brain
.
So that's very similar to whatgoes on for our dogs when they
feel that pull.
It's not something they thinkabout like, oh, I gotta pull now
because I feel this pressure.
It's just something thathappens to their body.
It's a conditioned reflex.
Yes, so that is what I usuallysuggest for people.
I literally had a clientyesterday who's he's not a puppy
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, but we've been working sincehe's a little bit younger and he
actually got out of his gate.
Accidentally.
Someone did not close the gateand he got out and mom had built
a really good reward historywith the touch cue, as per our
training, and instead of sayingno, come back here.
And getting all angry, she kepther composure and said touch,
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really happily, and this dogboom.
She said it once and he waslike oh crap, I don't wanna be
out here.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
And he came right back and I was so happy because
not only did we avoid an issuebecause there was actually
another dog, that's why he wasup on the gate, because there
was a dog outside being walkedDid we avoid a scuffle and a
traumatic event, but you know,we not only that, but now it,
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even more so, hits the rewardhistory home, because now then
she totally showered him withtreats and praise like he was
the king that night and I waslike that's so good, because he
really needs to know that whathe did was awesome and that's
exactly what we need everysingle time, god forbid that
happens again.
So you know, that's just anexample of like how the reward
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history kind of works.
When you're working with yourdog and you're communicating
with them consistently on a walkand you're not distracted on
your phone, they will give youwhat you're looking for.
I had another client that justwas here the other day for an
in-person session and we werewalking and, like dad, was
floored by her attentiveness tome on the walk.
(11:38):
Now, we had just met and Iexplained to him listen, this is
a little bit unrealisticbecause I'm basically Santa
Claus.
You know, I'm this high-pitched, excited cheerleader with a bag
of treats and she's not used tothat from you, right?
Like there's other variablesthat are in your relationship,
right, like you work from home.
So there's times where you'reessentially in her eyes,
ignoring her.
You know you feed her Like youhave a different relationship
(12:00):
than her and I.
We just met and this is who Iam.
I am the treat lady, you've beenconsistent for the last 15
minutes of treats, exactly, andthat's all she knows is that I'm
consistent, and when she checksin with me on the walk she gets
rewarded and she thinks I'm thebest thing since sliced bread.
But you can put that in yourday.
The only reason why we don't dothat is because we get lazy and
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we get complacent and we thinkit's not necessary anymore.
I truly believe our dogs arehere for a short period of time.
They should be spoiled andloved up on 24, seven and a lot
of people say, oh, I don't wantto be dependent on treats.
But in reality it's like thesedogs are here for what?
14 years, if you're lucky.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
If you're lucky, if you're lucky.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
like a lot of people, I feel like now it's like eight
, nine, because everyone'sgetting cancer, but like they're
only here for a short period oftime, who cares if you're
dependent on treats?
Wouldn't you rather that thanhave a dog who's super reactive
or doesn't listen to you at all?
And it's this fear-basedrelationship.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
But wouldn't you rather be dependent on treats
and praise than being dependenton a remote controller or a
collar?
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Like I don't get it right, like you would rather do
that You'd rather hold a remotecontrol or a prong collar than
just have a really fun time withyour dog, right?
And if you are the one thatwould rather hold the remote
control or the prong collar,like, stop getting dogs because
you're in it for the wrongreason, you don't need to have a
dog.
It's not a necessity, right?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
That's a big thing too.
It's an accessory for a lot ofthese people, I know but stop,
because you're not doing anybodyany favors.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
So yeah, did I miss anything with that?
I don't think so yeah we justwant a really good, solid reward
, history and fun for your dogon walks Because, again, if
they're not having fun, they'renot gonna listen to you and
they're not gonna go on thewalks.
They're not gonna wanna yeah.
So that's the hardware point ofview.
Okay, when you use anythingelse, right, like people will
say oh, prong collar works, yeah, it works because it hurts and
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you can try to the ends of theearth.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Don't tell us it doesn't hurt If it didn't hurt
it wouldn't work.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
It wouldn't work, it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Think about it, Seriously think about it.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
And again, the walk is for them.
A lot of people.
I have some clients that cometo me like, listen, I wanna get
off the prong collar.
I only use it because I'mterrified, because I really
think that my dog is gonna getoff.
Fine, come to us, we'll helpyou get off that prong collar
and find a safe harness thatwill work for you and make you
feel confident on your walk soyou're not also anxious.
But yeah, that is my suggestionfor good, proper leash walking.
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Do not have high expectations inthe beginning for your puppy.
Create that really awesomereward history.
Pay attention right.
Engage with them, talk to them.
They are so malleable at thisage.
When they're younger, they'llgo with you if you're happy.
They don't care what you'resaying, right?
And then also give them time tostimulate and sniff, because
that's valuable and that'snecessary for a dog.
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Don't just expect them to likewalk for exercise.
The second they come out of thewomb.
That's not what they're lookingfor.
They're looking to like sniffand smell.
Yeah, so let them do that.
Have that, put that into yourwalk right.
Say okay, five minutes in thebeginning to let them stimulate
in the front yard and then maybe10 minutes or five minutes of
walking down the street.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah, and then one more thing back on the prong
collar I just want to make onemore note.
The prong collar was neverdesigned or intended to be used
as the primary collar, so you'renot supposed to be walking your
dog on a prong collar.
So if you're worried about yourdog is so strong that you can't
walk them on a regular harness,you're afraid something's going
to break.
The prong collar is going tobreak before a harness breaks
Period.
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They're not intended for thatkind of usage.
They're intended to be asecondary collar that you can
provide a correction through.
It's not supposed to hold yourdog back.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
A lot of people don't know that A lot of trainers who
use prong collars.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Don't know this.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yes, Like I've had people come to me and their dogs
are like in their house whenI'm doing a virtual session.
The dog just has a prong collarand I'm like is this how we
live Next time you?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
see a, as long as you have a reputable police
department in your area and theyhave a canine unit.
Look at what they have.
They don't walk the canine onthe prong collar.
The prong collar is there torelease a bite.
When they bite, uh, when theyapprehend someone and they want
to release that bite, they usethe prong collar for that.
Then they're not walking thedog on the prong collar.
So something to consider.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yeah, yeah.
You know, I never reallythought about that.
Like, if the policemen are notdoing it with our canine dogs,
why are we doing it with ourfamily dogs, which is as old
school Milton as you can getyeah.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
All right.
So if you follow us onInstagram, you notice last week
we were taking questions on ourstory for this podcast and the
next podcast.
I have a really good questionfor you from our friends at
Pities and Pals Rescue and itlooks like they have an 11 week
old dog that they are caring forright now must be in foster and
uh.
Lots and lots of puppy nipping,trying everything, every
(16:38):
possible option, with no success.
Um, I don't know what everypossible option sounds like, so
let's give them the bestpossible uh options to move
forward from here.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
So what I would assume cause this.
This puppy is in foster right,so I'm assuming that puppy was
not with mom which is typicallythe issue usually is right Is an
11 week old.
That's not what their familytotally normal, totally on its
own, no other siblings.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
It's expected that they're going to have nipping
and mouthing problems becausethey don't have a proper outlet
to learn on right.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
So, uh, puppies learn bite inhibition.
That's the um.
The learning of how hard is toohard, right, and there are a
lot of um dogs who do not learnthis from puppyhood.
And I will have clients thatcome to me and they're like,
they're a little bit old andthey still play really rough,
right, Even though they'rereally good dogs.
They do not have proper biteinhibition, so they are still
(17:31):
malady to the point where it'spainful, even though they're not
intending to.
So that's that pressure for thedog to learn.
Oh, that's too hard.
Sorry, I didn't mean to do thatto you.
Um, so if this puppy did notlearn already at 11 weeks from
its siblings or mom, dependingon the past history, right,
that's something that we have tolook at, so we have to give a
little bit of extra empathy.
Um, now my other like thing inmy head is like, okay, lots of
(17:52):
puppies that are in foster tendto be with other friendly dogs
in foster, right.
So I'm thinking, okay, is thisother dog in foster, Um, you
know, more submissive andassertive enough to correct yes,
yeah.
Right, cause that's proper.
So we have a puppy who's withother dogs.
This is only in a situationwhere they're with other dogs.
Is the older dog confidentenough or have the personality
(18:18):
to correct that puppy properly?
Right, and corrections arenecessary between dogs.
So puppy would only learn oh Ibite, I bit you too hard by the
other dog, either growling orbarking at them or crying, right
.
And if that's not happening,like the dog is just submissive
and like running away or likeallowing it, this puppy's going
to think it's okay.
Right, these are like we needproper boundaries.
(18:38):
Now let's say this puppy isn'tin foster with another dog and
it's in foster just with humans,right.
Then it's unfortunately on usas humans to really help this
dog along.
We have to keep our patientssuper low, that's.
I mean I'm super high, right?
So we have to make sure thatour frustration is not mounting.
Then the dog is feeding off ofthat, because the more we get
frustrated, the moreoverstimulated we get.
(19:00):
We are feeding that chaos.
I love this quote.
It's more about kids, but italso works with dogs.
Is an escalated parent can'tdeescalate and escalate a child.
If your puppy is like in Cujomode, losing its mind, tantrum
in target.
That is not the time that weare going to be teaching this,
because they are not in a mentalstate to accept this.
I you know, zoomie mode, cujomode.
(19:21):
It's not the time where theireyes are bulging out of their
head and they look at the sharkfrom Nemo.
Not the time right.
So we need to pick times wherethey're super calm, they had
proper mental stimulation,frozen bones, frozen cons, work
to eat, toys that are soothingtheir teeth and, you know, kind
of meeting that expectation interms of, like, oral fixation
and stuff like that.
(19:41):
Once they get that, they'vepotted, they had a nap, they're
not over tired, they're, they'renot hungry, they are like you,
you've met all the needs, right,you met all the needs and now
we're just like chilling andwe're like playing a little bit
and there's some toys or whatnot.
That's the time I usually tellmy parents to sit on the floor
and you know, being in a reallyengaging presence, and offer
(20:04):
your hands, like literally offeryour hands out and let's see
what they're going to do.
Most of the times puppies willcome to know they're like oh,
you're giving me your hands.
When they do this, when theyactually bite down, I am pro
using the Yip noise.
I find this works really reallywell for the majority of dogs
not all dogs, but majority ofthe dogs.
So you offer those hands whenthey when they bite down, not
(20:25):
before, not after, when theybite down really high pitch, I'm
not.
I'm got to do it the right wayon here.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Like that.
Sorry If that was too loud.
John will have to.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
No, you're good.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Okay, and they usually bounce back and they're
like, oh my God, what was that?
Right, when they stop and theylook at you concerned, you say
good boy, good girl, thank you.
Right, you're letting them knowwhen they stop that, remarking
that behavior, right, but youshowed them how that hurt, thank
you for stopping, right, wecan't just do the Yip and go
about our business.
We need to show, because a lotof times if you ever notice with
(20:58):
dogs dog on dog, puppy nips,older dog will yelp or growl.
When puppy stops, they'llusually give and this is Oakley,
I've seen him do this give akiss or a nuzzle or like, um, uh
, physical marker of like we'regood, right, it's fine, thank
you.
Thank you for listening.
Um, that's how dogs communicate.
So we have to even though it'sdifficult and we are humans, we
(21:19):
do have to try and emulate thatwe're not hurting them back,
cause that teaches nothing.
Right, we're not fightingviolence with violence.
We are not, you know, puttingour hands around their, their
muzzle and yelling at them.
That won't work, cause they'renot understanding that.
Correction yelling or puttingyour hand around the muzzle does
not say you bit me too hard.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
They're not yet.
They're not creating thatassociation.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
No they're just like oh wow, you're rough.
Yeah Well, for your rough, Ican be rough.
So we don't want to meetviolence with violence.
We don't want to meet fire withfire.
We want to say, oh, that hurtme, right.
And when you stop, that's whenwe can continue our play right,
or our, or our affection towardseach other.
And sometimes this will get dogsum, elevated.
They yip will sometimesbackfire and they get over
(21:59):
stimulated.
That's when you have a dogwho's probably not getting their
needs needs met on a dailybasis.
They're more, um, emotionallycharged at a drop of a hat.
So that's something that wewant to look at.
They're very intelligent,they're hyper focused, they're
anxious, um, they've got a lotof pent up energy.
They're, um, the dogs who lookfor that negative attention
really, really quickly.
Those dogs are the ones thatare going to have a little bit
(22:21):
of a harder time with the Yip,because it instantly gets them
zero to 10.
Most dogs I would say 90% dofine with the Yip and thank you
after Um, but if they come back,you're going to continue to do
it, um, if they don't getoverstimulated, if they're not
coming back and biting youharder, but they're like Ooh,
like they're just re exploring.
Continue with the Yip If theycome at you harder now.
They're like play bowing andthey like think it's it's a game
(22:43):
.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
It's a game.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
I want you to completely, um, get rid of the
Yip.
Don't, don't re attempt that.
We just got to figure out ifyour dog is in that 10% category
, um, and we have to find adifferent method, right?
So um with that.
We had this with Sage myparents puppy.
Um, she was the one.
If you saw on Instagram shewent viral that we were quote
(23:05):
unquote fostering for anotherfamily, but in reality it was
their Christmas gift.
But we had to get her good withtheir current dog, gatsby, who
you know doesn't like other dogs.
Now they're besties.
Um, she really struggled withbite inhibition.
She was a dog who the Yip didnot work for.
Yeah Right, like.
She still slightly struggleswith how hard is too hard when
(23:25):
she gets overstimulated.
She goes zero to a hundredsometimes and sees red, even
though she's not doing itaggressively intense and, and
you know, on purpose for her.
Um, her, her zero to a hundredis is a quick sometimes.
So we have to make sure thatshe's on a proper nap schedule.
So I would really urge pittiesand pals to look at this dog's
schedule.
When is it happening the mostright?
(23:47):
Is it constant or is it justlike in the bewitching hours at
night?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Right.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Right, because then we need to head that off with if
it's happening at five o'clock.
That puppy needs um a frozenbone and then a nap.
Yeah, bypass that timeframeright Puppy teethering puppy
teethering, anything that umwill kind of bypass you through
that period of time and meet theneed, right, because they're
(24:10):
definitely feeling that theyneed to get that energy out.
We're not just ignoring thefact that they need something.
We're just kind of like puzzlepiecing around our activities,
like if you wanna play with thepuppy, the puppy absolutely
needs play, but not during thattime frame that it usually loses
its mind, right, like you haveto be super smart about what
we're doing.
So maybe that's a crate timewith the Pup-sicle or something
safe for them to that's highvalue in the crate, right, so
(24:32):
they have a break.
Or if it's like early in themorning when they just wake up,
like that's a good time toattempt, you know, outside stuff
where it's hands off but theycan still simulate, right.
So it's you know.
I'd love to talk to Pitties andPals about this a little bit
more in depth and see whatthey've tried so far, because
the situation, I mean there's somany different possible options
(24:54):
.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Yeah, and bite inhibition is really important.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
It's really important .
Speaker 1 (24:58):
And it's very consequential down the line of
you don't want an adult dog withadult teeth in an adult
situation where maybe they'restressed out or somebody's
scaring them, where they don'thave bite inhibition, so they
just give it all they got, andwhat should have been a warning
snap is a full on bite.
And that's a dog that nevergrew up with bite inhibition.
(25:19):
So it's on us to do the best wecan to teach it in lieu of
their family.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yep, that's the situation we're in.
One other thing I just thoughtof Pudge, our own foster fail
puppy.
We've had her since three weeksold.
She was biting the crap she wasbad for sharp teeth.
Okay, Now Lil Chihuahua mix,feisty little brat lover to
death.
But what we actually realized Irealized earlier on, but nobody
(25:45):
was listening to me.
I was like there's somethingwrong, Her belly hurts, it's
distended.
They tested her for worms, butthey didn't test for tapeworms,
which was not the most likely.
You know, usually tapeworms arerare.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Once they find out, I mean it should have been
assumed in that situation inhindsight, because they were all
flea infested.
That's how tapeworms aretransmitted.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
But you know they, I think they had tested once and
like maybe it didn't come up.
And then as she got a littlebit older they grew.
She wound up having a verylarge amount of tapeworms in her
tiny little three pound body.
And once we dewormed her sheactually was much, much better.
So she was just reallyuncomfortable.
So even in this situation, Ialways tell people, if your
(26:27):
puppy is abnormally feisty,abnormally like quick to get
nasty, we have to look a littlebit further, right?
If they're in pain, if they'rein discomfort, check the teeth.
Right now this puppy's a littlebit early to have teeth issues.
But I have another client whosepuppy is around six months and
(26:48):
he's still biting them likecrazy, right.
So we were on the phone theother day and I said can you
check his teeth for me?
Lo and behold, he had a babycanine wedge between two adult
teeth and he was in excruciatingpain.
So I was like he needs to go tothe vet.
He needs to get that pulledbecause he's just pissed off all
the time.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Did they pull it yeah ?
Speaker 2 (27:08):
And I think he's doing a lot better now.
So, like little things likethis that you like, there are
those random things.
That's why when we do ourtrainings, we look at the whole
dog.
I need I can't just say correctthis dog, right, he's not
listening to the normal trainingmethods, right On nipping like
let's start correcting.
No, I don't go that route.
We got to see, look at thewhole thing.
This is like medical too.
We have to make sure thatthey're okay before we think
(27:29):
that there's something actuallywrong with this dog.
He just had a tooth that waswedged and it's painful, right?
Just imagine having a toothacheall the time.
So I don't think that wouldnecessarily be the case for this
11 week old puppy that's infoster, but it's definitely
worth a shot looking at theteeth and making sure that
everything looks okay.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Okay, yeah, I think that sums it up.
Well, I'm sure we'll be intouch with them about we'll clip
this and make it a real.
Yeah, so they could see it forsure.
Cool, All right, that's.
We're going to do this in twoparts.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
So that wraps up part one.
Look for part two Puppies,puppies, puppies, puppies.
Part two It'll be so I'llpublish this on Monday, because
we're a little late this week,because last week was insane.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
You mean today?
Yes, but people don't know whattoday is oh no, I was just
asking for my own puppy.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
So this one part one will be Monday and we are going
to publish part two on Wednesday, like we normally do.
And yeah, I think that's it forthis one.
Should I do a proper outro?
It doesn't feel right to do aproper outro for just recording
another one right after itdoesn't matter, I'll do a proper
outro.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
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