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Speaker 1 (00:00):
There's a lady we know, been a friend of the
show for a while. Name is Stasio Gressnik, and I
just was going through what do.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
We call this show?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
And I'll check off a throw what she thinks of this,
But I think we're gonna talk with someone who's a
Fauci protocol widow, and she refuses to give up a
fight for justice, and there's a massive change in her case.
We'll make you familiar with it, since a lot of
folks are new what happened, and then what happened, and
then what we need to have happened. So we'll do
(00:29):
this all with the help of renew dot Healthcare, actual
healthcare people, renewed dot Healthcare, and thank you to God almighty.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
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Speaker 1 (01:00):
Today is the day the Lord has made, and these
are the times through which God has decided we shall live.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Stacy O.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Grizznik joins, thisss been a while since you've had you
in the show. It's good to see you again. I
wish it was under different circumstances. Welcome back, can you Yeah,
you should be able to talk now, Stacy.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Welcome back.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Oh hi, how are you doing?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Goods good to see your face. And again, I wish
it was under different circumstances. A lot of people are
new to the cast and therefore new to your story.
You took your husband Ryan to the hospital and he
had some specific orders and some limits that you both
stayed at in the hospital. Let's talk about what happened.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Well to kind of like recap it.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
My husband went into the hospital, he's forty one years old,
helping male. Had a bacterial lung infection when he went in,
and instead they changed it over to a COVID protocol
and a COVID situation gave him rem de severe against
our consent, shut down his kidneys, try to hide it.
They ended up putting him on a ventilator while he
(02:11):
had a ninety eight percent oxygen level. The doctor had
told me that he was going to vent Ryan with
or without his consent. I told him that was illegal.
He slammed the phone down on me, and then two
hours or a couple hours later, he called me back
and said he had vented him two hours ago, and
we come to find out that was a lie. He
(02:31):
actually had not vented him yet because he told me
Ryan's oxygen dropped to forty percent he was turning blue,
and told him to just.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Do it, and all of that was a lie.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
And it ended up Ryan was still alert, texting people
that they were bringing him up a sedative to help
him feel better. He didn't know that two rounds of
xanax and two rounds of presidex would cause him to
go heavily sedation and to quit breathing. So his oxygen
dropped from from ninety eight percent to the.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Fifties and that dropped so they could him yep.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
And they had doctor told me it dropped a forty
percent and so it didn't quite reach to the level
he thought he would, but it got to the fifties
and they intubated him. And wait until we go over
what we discovered about that event. But in the end
they I had a doctor fight to try to save him.
And when they actually gave him so much fetanyl to
(03:32):
try to stop this doctor from saving his life because
a doctor had tried to fight to save him, gave
him I vermected he improved, and as he was improving,
they took it away from him, and in the end
they overdosed him with fentanyl. He was given over eighteen
or one eight hundred micrograms of fentanyl over the course
of three hours, when a normal max is one hundred
(03:53):
micrograms every four hours.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
So they made sure that he did not wake back.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Up medical murder.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
See, yes, oh absolutely absolutely. Uh you know, he he
ended up being put So I don't know if you
want me to go over the.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Things we're talking.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Let's go to the whole thing, because a lot of
people haven't heard this, and some people who have don't
know the new details, you know, So no, let's just
go through it, says, you take your time, okay.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Yeah. So what we had just now discovered within this
year from having his medical records reviewed by a medical
legal we had found out that not only had.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Marigo bret my burden, not only if not only did
we have a.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Not only did his oxygen was normal when they when
they put him on those drugs to vent him, they
had known that it had a known cuff leak, so
it had a it had a cuff leak, so it
was leaking oxygen, not given a medic what oxygen and
it would also then have all his mouth secretions go
into his lungs to cause aspiration pneumonia.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Wow, so they do things.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Yeah, they knew it.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
They knew this, They knew it.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
They actually documented it. A nurse had documented that his
lung that his vent had a known cuff leak uh,
and yet nobody changed that out and instead, so that's
gonna allow all his mouth secretions to enter his lungs.
Caused aspiration pneumonia. They left that, and it was caused
inadequate oxygen. So that's going to cause his organs and everything.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Else to shut down.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
So thirty four days out of forty four days there
he was left on a faulty ventilator system. And they
also knew at the time that they vented him, uh,
that he had a bed store and this bed store
was a level four bedstore to the bone, causing sepstress
in his body untreated nobody. I actually had just learned
(05:58):
about the bed store the last week of his life
through a nurse that pointed it out to me, so
that this is very serious, this is fatal, and uh,
nobody had told me about it prior. Nobody treated it
won't care was never called. And on day four, on
this faulty ventilator system, hospice had came in and go
(06:24):
Hospice came in and said, uh, discharge plan, pinkment will
pass in the hospital and then that's uh. They just
had put him on hospice care without our knowledge, without
our consent. So the whole time they're telling me they're
fighting for him to get better. And it makes sense
now because when I asked that nurse, what is he
(06:44):
on that's going to help him get off of this
and help him improve, she said, well, nothing, but it's
all we're allowed.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
To give him. And she said, if I fight for him,
I'll lose my job.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I think I remember this, you said, didn't you say
to her? You know you're killing my husband?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (07:00):
I said, are we going to let a healthy, forty
one year old man just die? Is that what you're
telling me? And she said it's not right. I know,
but if I fight for him, I'll lose my job.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Sometimes there's worse things than losing your job, like losing
your soul. She'll not murder. And you've got some lawyers
to help you, help you, quote help you. We'll talk
about that and how much this just made this worse,
and we'll get to that as well as we talk
with you through this. I want to, in a second,
fee to see an interaction that Stacy has in video,
(07:31):
because Stacey's a ton of evidence at her YouTube channel.
There's also a gift send go, and we're gonna tell
you why there's a gift send go here in a second. Okay,
we're still fighting for justice in this case and we'll
do that. But just as I have to tell you, Stacy,
we're working with this is a movie you should actually
watch and get in touch with the director of. It's
called Thank You, Doctor Fauci, and it is that's a
(07:55):
sarcastic title. A guy named Jenner First is an award
winning directory put together this movie where they looked not
just at the origin of COVID and it's their estimation
that this was we had two probably double agents. Oh
you've heard the name Ralph Barrick, You've heard the name
Peter Dashik. They contend that perhaps these guys are double
agents working to spy on us for China and for
(08:17):
us against China.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
They went beyond the.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Origin of the COVID flu which they contend is in
bio arms race, and they absolutely prove again because it's
been proven many times that COVID was created in a lab.
They prove that. They go through the shots and what
happened with the shots, but they also go all the
way back to Fauci's first fraud, which was AIDS and
AZT and what he did there. Believe it or not,
(08:41):
there's a polio tie into all this. It's an extraordinary film.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
It's raw.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
There's even a few points where there's some curse words
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Speaker 1 (09:11):
So, Stacy, you had this interaction with this good doctor,
and remember you've called him the good doctor.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
So this is a bit of this. So set this
up for us.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Before we play the clips, so people have this context.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Sure, Uh yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
So when I was fighting for my husband and his
rights in the hospital, I was contacting any doctor I
could find and try to reach out see who could
break this protocol. And we found out through patient relations
there is nothing in the protocol that says or in
the policy that they can't break protocol and can't try
something else for the patient. So this doctor that you're
(09:47):
gonna hear actually tried ivermectin on my spouse and gave him.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
A proper dose steroid.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
And because he had such inflammation in his lungs and
his oxygen went from the low sixties to a hund
percent less than twenty four hours, and he was making
improvements and strides to come off the event that they
had him on and he was on it for I
think around three weeks at that time. So he started
to improve and they took it away from him other doctors,
(10:15):
and it became a battle in the hospital where Ryan's
rights start stop, where the doctors then can override our rights.
Because all the doctors stressed over and over that they
have to follow basically this cookie cutter medicine. Every patient
is treated the same, no individual patient care, and so
(10:37):
like what I've come to learn is that they pretty
much tried to stick with anything that the Cares Act
was going to compensate them for, and if the patient
needed anything outside of that, that's their cost. So it
was the hospital pretty much had this, you could tell it.
It seems they have this great idea to well, we'll
just give them only what the Cares Act will cover,
and if even if they need the other part to survive,
(11:00):
they die, and we show that we just treated with
the recommended treatment plan, Well, the prep BAT gives us
immunity to not be held accountable. Uh so, and then
they just pray no one finds out about uh mistreatment
or breaking standard of care, which would been Ryan's case
with the bed sore, with the faulty event, that's what
(11:20):
gives a way to hold them accountable. So sadly, if
they had if there was no faulty event and there
was no bed sore, no mistreatment, no violation of his rights,
and somebody went in and they said, okay, just treat
me with what that protocol is That prep BAT gave
them immunity to harm if they died while they followed
(11:41):
that protocol. It just does not protect breaking standard of
care or intentional harm. Uh so, But this doctor h
was up against a lot of people. There was only
one other doctor, the chief of staff working beside him,
and and and they're against everyone else was just against
(12:03):
him doing anything that might jeopardize their jobs. Ye.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
So yeah, And by the way, that's just reminder of
be of a playce clip. There was a lot of
money involved in all of this, and say sees correct.
But the Cares Act and the PREP Act, there's money
for changing it from viral pneumonia to COVID the minute
that happened. They got money when they put him in
the hospital. They got money when they PCR tested him.
They got money when they put him on remdem severe.
(12:28):
They got money when they vented him. They got money
when they were sedating him. I understand it. They get money.
He dies as a COVID case, they get money. And
there's many states where if the person died from quote
from COVID, and you know this case, it is clear
to me and my judgment your husband was murdered. That
(12:50):
states where they can call it a COVID death, life
insurance doesn't have to pay. So here's this interaction with
this gentleman you call the good doctor.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
Why would want to change the thing that was working?
Is it doesn't make any sense to me. I thought
we're all working together to make a patient uh survive,
they live, and now he's making it a personal battle.
This is this is a bigger battle. Now, you know,
this is not just about Brian. This is about uh
(13:18):
patient care and the air of COVID. You know, you
know basis medicine. I mean, you couldn't do anything, You
couldn't step out a lot uh just cooking cutter medicine
and to go along with the program, think of either
actually leave or got rid of you or you you know,
you had to watch. And I don't know who he's accountable,
So he should be accountable to Ryan, and you just
(13:40):
stopped to stare rights you know you're you're gonna kill him?
I mean I didn't. I wouldn't say that if I
didn't believe it. So I don't know if that was
his intention.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
I don't know what to say. Bryan got uh the
angrmin uh you bringing or you know it's just doing
all the things that we did.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
My gosh, what did they do to him?
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Well they killed him my judgment.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, So it was that doctor and another doctor say
the chief of staff, the chief of staff.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Couldn't stop this, no, no, you know, and the chief
of staff at the at the end after that conversation,
they had gotten the idea to try to make that
doctor behead of ICU starting that Monday, January third. It
was like a last ditch effort to try to save
him against the other ones just following unlawful orders.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
So they that was the plan.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Will make him be ahead of the ICU, and it
will be his choice what caer Ryan gets well. That
night before somebody had put in the orders to up
Ryan's fetanyl and me dazzlamb like substantially. So a max
dose of fetanyl for somebody who might be in a
motorcycle accident broken, had to toe in severe pain would
(15:00):
be like one hundred micrograms of fetanyl every.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Four hours four to six hours.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
Ryan was given five hundred micrograms in the hour, then
six hundred the next hour, then seven hundred and seventy
five micrograms in the next hour, for over one thousand,
eight hundred micrograms of fetanyl and over three hour window.
He was also put on medazolam in high dosage like
way higher than what they even used on death row
inmates and also on profofall. So it was like they
(15:28):
were fed up, We're not playing, We're stopping this, and
so they got him out quicker, like the nurse's aid
had told me they did to Room seventeen that they
had got them out quicker when they were fighting for
their rights.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
To break the protocol.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
And I stay in touch with the Room seventeen, so
we we know that they were forcing death onto patients.
I mean, it's clear, it's night and day and enough
to the point that after I was speaking out, I
got the ears of a sheriff and two criminal prosecutors
(16:03):
who heard my story and said this needs to be
criminally investigated right away.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yeah, and the criminal investigation might be very very important,
is very very important, because you came on our program
with a lawyer and former FEDS from Medical Freedom.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Wasn't that what they were calling themselves?
Speaker 5 (16:23):
They actually called well, they were calling themselves Declared Truth
Declared that.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Yeah, that was their group.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
But they were associated with a former Fed's Freedom foundation.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Okay, they were like associate with that, all.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Right, So they heard your story and the lawyers got
in touch and they were.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Just filled with fire to fight for you.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
And they went around the country, they got on my program,
we helped to raise money. And if you gave money
to that, I'm about to issue an apology I didn't
know and Stacy didn't know.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
And.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Talk about this lawlawyer and what's going on and this
this has to be spiritual, and I'm look, I don't
believe any longer. There's in my judgment, there's nothing our
government won't do to us, like nothing. So part of
me wonders if this wasn't a setup to make sure
that this happens to your case. Because of all the
(17:21):
people I've talked to, talked to Scott Shara and other
people who've been through this, you had the most evidence.
You have a lot of conversations in audio form. There's
no question that people knew what they were doing and
that there were other doctors trying to stop it. So
I think your case had to be tanked. So let's
(17:42):
talk about what happened.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
Okay, So yeah, after I came on actually your program,
the an attorney heard my story in the state of
California and he reached out, got it. I got my phone,
um or my information left his phone number. I called
him after getting his number, and he started the conversation
(18:07):
with can I just stop you and just pray with
you on the phone. I feel called by God to
take on these cases, you know, and I just.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Feel this pulling to do the right thing. YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
And he was saying, like everything, I was praying for
God to lead me to the right team to tackle
the situation.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
And while I.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
Had another assuring that I was ready to actually sign
on with, I loved that one for than the one
in California because I felt like God was redirecting me
from everything he said that fit things. I was praying,
this shows how bad the enemy can work. So I
trusted and went with him. And you know, he was
(18:50):
on contingency, but he did take some money up front
for covering filing fees, and he took some money from
various widows.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
He asked if there.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
Were more people in my state that were needing help,
and you know, basically connect them both. So he ended
up taking on several cases, and a few of them
in Michigan, and he ended up taking money from some widows,
never filing their cases at all, letting them believe that
(19:23):
everything was fine, and by the time they found out
that it wasn't, it was kind of oops, my bad,
I messed up. I forgot no money refunded and other
statue of limitations were done as for like me and
another one in Michigan.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Her name is Lorie.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
We actually ended up having our cases filed, but they
he filed the day of our statues being up, and
we never saw a hearing. We were never told when
there was a hearing. I actually found out about my
life asked hearing that was taking place by looking it
up online and found out that it was like the
(20:05):
next day. As I found out about it, his assistant
had told me I could watch it. It was being streamed
on YouTube, but I would have to log in under
an alias name and email to listen to my own hearing,
So that was already some weird red flags.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
I didn't know why.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
That didn't make sense to me, but time was of
the essence and it was starting, so I.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Just did it.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
So I created a name and fake email and set
up to go watch my hearing. Everything get dismissed without prejudice,
and was understanding why because we never got to know
any of our We never saw the complaint. We never
saw any hearings. We had no idea why. He just
told us that the judge was very liberal and hard
(20:49):
to deal with, and you can't win in Michigan. Left
it all on the court's fault, and then said that
we weren't allowed to contact our Michigan represented attorney and
ask him any questions about our case, that we were
not to bother him, we weren't to compare notes with
each other. And how much we paid I know. He
said that we were paying money because we needed to
(21:11):
have some skin in the game. Apparently losing our spouses
in a horrific way was not enough, so that was
why we had to give money so that we had
something in it.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
And then.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
Come afterwards, I asked him, I said, you know, we
asked for my you know, how long do we have
to refile? Told us we don't. He doesn't know. We
have to ask a Michigan attorney. And when I said, okay,
well I need all my records back. Can I get
my transcripts so we know exactly where the court's left off.
I need my medical records, which were all sent digitally
(21:45):
to them, and I had to send it through a
former FEDS group. I don't know why it couldn't be
sent directly to him, but it had to go through
former Feds, so that was another thing. So we sent
my records there and nobody would give me my records back.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
So afterwards he said that.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
He wasn't allowed to send them back because he was
denied Pearl Hawk to work out of state and told
us that it would make him look bad and he
didn't want those transcripts out there.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Told us he would send him to a new attorney.
If we can find a new attorney, he would send
our stuff to the new attorney. However, he also told
us all in a recorded zoom that that he would
discourage any new attorneys from taking on our cases and
tell them not to that God is now telling him
to back away from all this, and that God would
(22:35):
want us to back away and not fight it the
same way.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Wow, But I think there's correct me. If I'm wrong,
I think the judge or you found, at least in
the filings that he did do that bizarre filings. I
think the judge had commentary in this some mistake.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
I think when we visited earlier, you said that.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
So let's talk through that and Stasy has an organization,
Ryan's Fight for Truth. There's also a gift Send and Go.
There's a link in the show notes she needs help.
There's a criminal case to be investigated here. And people
have heard this and said, look, this sounds like a
criminal It does sound like a criminal offense to me,
and it would be fantastic if this could actually be
(23:17):
put into where it belongs, which is criminal law. The
same thing would have been true in Scott Shaff's case.
He's filed an appeal. A bizarre decision in that case
and that jury. I am at a loss as to
how the jury reached what it did, although the judge
was very aggressively against Scott in that case, and that's
now on record. So we'll talk about this with Stacy Agressik.
(23:37):
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(23:57):
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(24:20):
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lawyer who filed this paperwork, he wasn't really, it seems
filing a paperwork on your behalf. It almost seems like
what he filed was a kind of copy and paste
from a lawsuit completely disconnected from yours.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
Yeah, So after we had gotten it, I read the
transcripts and the first thing that caught my attention was
the judge and Laurie's case had made the comment that
they had never seen a reason to deny someone pro
hoc except for today, like this was the first time
all their years on the bench, the first time they
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seen a reason to it to UH deny someone pro hoc.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
So I was like, what in the world happened?
Speaker 5 (26:18):
So once I got my uh copy of the complaint,
uh it read like a lawsuit against Pfizer or Gilead
for Rem de Severe and the prep Act would cover
something like that. They know that he knows that going
into it, And I was like, why is it all
about Rem de Severe? The whole darn thing is remdesevere
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and so comparing it, we know that you know that
the people from former FADS had actually helped my complaint
and our complaints and they were filing a class action
lawsuit against remd Severe and so and trying they were
in the process of trying all that and so. So
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it looks as though it was just a flat out
copy paste from their fight, their battle and then marked
it as mine as some of my doctor's names. Actually
some of Lori's doctors were in my complaint, but.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
We had it was just so sloppy.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
It literally the doctors that we were had in the
complaint had nothing to do with the reumda severe that
they were fighting, so of course it would make sense
for like the judge to be so confused by it.
The Devents team wanted to laugh it basically out of
the courtroom, going, we don't even know what.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
To do with this.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
We never seen nothing like this before, so it was
like a clear non attempt to actually fight this, but
the appearance of the fight was there. And so now
by the time I had rushed back to the first
attorney who wanted the case, I went back there. That's
(27:53):
where we did a medical legal review because the other
one never had. We never had a medical review down
in my records, ever found anything of those. Everything I
was going to look for and look into because I
knew something was wrong never done.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Did.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
They never even ask for any of my evidence before
even filing, so they never even seen it.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
What were they filing on?
Speaker 5 (28:13):
And so nothing was ever medically properly medically reviewed, and
so it left me kind of in the dark to
start all over. So once I over one thousand dollars
later to go get all my records myself, get it,
wait on everything to come in. That took months, and
by the time I was able to ready to file again,
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we find that I can't file medical malpractice because that
statue is gone.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Wow, and again this guy waited until the last day.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah, so there's.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Nothing at that point that could be done, I mean
at the times of So then you get contacted by
you said, some law enforcement people. Yeah, yeah, and so
what's what's their view of this?
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Well, the two that I had taught to, they said
that they believe that this well, for my husband's case,
they believe that it is medical battery, negligent homicide, medical kidnapping,
and probably federal fraud.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
And are they willing to investigate that as law enforcement officers.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Uh, we're in the process of that. Okay, we're in
the process of the early stages.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Okay, so they seem willing.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
Yes, yes, yes, yep. So we're in the early stages.
And so I'm like looking anyone that can help advance
that I know. One had suggested said that this might
have to go to the Attorney General's desk because of
what the situation it is with some of it. So,
but anything that can be handled locally, obviously that would
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be beneficial.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
But then in the case it is right, this doesn't
seem well A I do wonder because I think this
way now, given what they're willing to do to us,
if he was sent in to just destroy the case
and to poison the waters.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
And on the other hands, this.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
He made money from this. Yeah, do you have any
idea how much money he got?
Speaker 5 (30:20):
Well, I mean I know that there was thousands taken
collected from a lot of people. I do know that
one of the people was referenced as the millionaire in Texas.
That was one of their clients, and I do know
from talking to them that they paid significantly more upfront.
So I imagine that's someone he kept around the longest because
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that was the one that had a lot of money
to work with. I don't know the status of their
case and where things are at, but I do know
every single other case has been dismissed, every single one.
All of us had the same exact complaint. It was
copy and paste, just like cookie cutter medicine in the hospital.
We're all on that same protocol. So yeah, it was
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the same generic complaint. And the clients that he had
in his own state, they actually I was on the
phone with two of them when they had found out
their hearing was the next day. They were told through
a zoom meeting three months back that it was canceled.
I mean that it was, you know, dismissed, and so
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they thought it was all done.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Same thing.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
Never had a hearing that they attended, didn't know, so
they took him for his word. While I was on
the phone with them, when they asked me how I
found out about when my hearing was. I said it
was online through the courts. That's how I found out.
So they went to go check to see if they
could get their transcripts if they were just you know, online,
and while doing that they found out they had a
hearing the next day. They were like, what, like, it's
(31:48):
it's They even called up a friend that works in
the courts.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
She works there.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
It's like, look at this and tell me if I'm
reading this wrong, because it says I have a hearing
the next day and we were told in a meeting
three months fact that everything's already been dismissed. So uh,
she came on, looked at I was on the phone
with them, and they said, yeah, there's a hearing tomorrow.
So she had the plan for them to write a
letter and give it to the bailiff to handle the
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judge and say, hey, we haven't. We've been kept out
of in the dark for this whole time, no information,
and we didn't know, and we didn't give a chance
to even have our voices heard in court, and by
then it was just too late. They couldn't let the
judge see it beforehand because it would have been like
a you know, bias thing sway a decision, so they
they couldn't. But he told them to fight it afterwards
(32:35):
and told him that he thinks it's in the wrong
court anyway, that it should be a criminal case as well,
And that was coming.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
From their judge.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
The judge said, he thinks it should be a criminal case.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I mean, they said, but it
was like it was in the wrong court system, that
this should be bigger, even like a federal federal offense.
So they uh, they they even had some of them
had grieve and says against them from fines that they
didn't know about.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
So they had fees ranked up in the courts because
their attorney never told them they had any fees. So
this is how bad this is.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
I mean, everybody was giving all this money and we
were collecting their you know, having a school across the
country or a country of those states and telling our stories.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Yeah, I mean, I pro we're speaking everywhere.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
Yeah, the time when I was meeting with you, we
were getting ready to go into Texas, they had me
tied to Texas to tell my story. And when I
got to the airport, my flight was canceled. They pretend
they didn't know, you know how that happened, told me
to re buy my ticket. So I had to read
buy my ticket during the time when all my money
was tied up in probate, buy my ticket to get
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there and never saw that money again.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Yeah, that's see.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
That's what I'm curious about is how much money they
collected on that front.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
As you guys were going around the country. And I
know that.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
You know, my friend and our common friends got Shara.
You know, he's he is appealed his case. He has
a book coming out. I can't talk much about it.
I have a pre prance and no, I just learned
about it, and I probably shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Have said that, So yeah, well I probably should have
said that.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
But then again, at least it's a little bit of
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Speaker 2 (34:21):
And this is an effort.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
I mean, we want to go after this attorney, right
in addition to making sure that if we can get
a criminal investigation on this, we want a criminal investigation
for an investigation. We don't want to let the fight
go because in my judgment, Ryan was medically murdered. But
I have a tough question for you about that.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
In a second.
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It's Alan Soaps dot Com slash Todd Alansoaps dot Com
slash Todd So here's the tough question, Sacy, do you
wish that you had ridden heard over this guy and
then all over him and looking at every piece of
paperwork and double checking it and basically acting as your
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own attorney with an attorney.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
Well, yeah, I definitely regret trusting them, that's for sure,
because it ruined my chance to be heard and bring
my evidence to the court.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
And look at the.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
YouTube channel by the way, for the evidence, and tell
me that this wouldn't have gone to court.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Just go look at her.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
There's a link to Stacy's YouTube channel. You go look
at this and tell me that a judge wouldn't have
fun a way to get this like heard?
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Sorry, Stacy, Yeah, oh.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
Yeah, because I mean they they documented that he refused
the vent, that that was documented, and yet they set
him up for it and then it was faulty. It
was a faulty event.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
They knew it.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
I mean, you're causing more harm than what.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
He went in for.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
So do you wish that you'd take in say no,
I need to see what day am I going to
see the complaint? When will I get to review it
for accuracy? Do you wish that you had really, as
I said, just you know, managed this guy ridden herd
on top of the process.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
Oh me, hindsight, Yeah, but at the time, you know,
you're trusting that an attorney knows what they're doing.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
And it's the same thing like you know, you.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
Trust that doctors are medically trained and and that you
would know, you know that you would have right still
in the hospital.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
So everything is hindsight yeh.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
But even then, even if I was on top of him, uh,
you know, I'm taking him his word, like did you
I there's emails where I'm asking him, hey, did you
file an intent to sue? Notice in Michigan we need
an intent to sue and he says yes. Yet you
see in our transcripts that he didn't do that properly either,
any Moore, he told me it was done. So, I mean,
(38:08):
there was like a lot of times when I was
even talking to Scott Shara and even saying because Scott
Schara almost got the same attorney too, except for I
refer the first one to him that he knows his
attorney was the first one I was gonna go with.
So I I was talking to Scott and I just said,
you know, I don't know, am I just is it
(38:29):
paranoia or am I doing?
Speaker 4 (38:30):
Is he doing everything right? But we were stuck. You
know at that point you're gotting neck deep in it.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
What are you gonna do? And you're trusting his word
that he's saying, yes, everything is fine, we're good, We're
all great. You know, this is beautiful complaint and YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
In your year you believe.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
Okay, yeah, they got this, especially someone who comes in
the name of God and acting like you know, they
were doing Gosh work and God's mission and we stay
in that to a bunch of Christians who are gonna,
you know, be receptive to that. So yeah, it's like
it was target targeted.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
So what do you hope to do against this attorney?
I mean disbarments, you know, criminal complaints. What do you
intend to do against this guy?
Speaker 5 (39:12):
Well? I think there should be some accountability for what
was taken from Ryan, and not even just Ryan, but
all the widows. And if I can be that voice
for all the widows that were affected, and some of them,
I mean not all of them are widows. Some of
them lost parents or lost other people, but just the
vast majority were widows or widowers. And so if there
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can be some justice to hohold accountability for what was stolen,
because it was we were revictimized twice. Not only do
we trust medical people, but then we trusted a law
firm to represent us and have our voices have a
chance to be heard. Nothing is a guarantee when we
know that, but damn it, try try for us and
actually put an effort in there to have our voices heard,
(39:56):
because had all this evidence been brought forward into a court,
who knows where it could have went, you know, from
there much quicker. So instead of having us have to
start all over again. Yeah, I mean, we just like
we were just money to the hospital. It feels like
we were just money to that law firm.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
And so if there are I know there are lawyers
watching and are listening, and you know how to get
a bar complaint, please help Stacy with that. I know
this guy violated professional code of ethics and in Canada
of ethics.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
I know that.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
And if you know a way to get that in
front of the licensing boards and the bar associations, I
ask you, do you that I know the bar Association's
body in on the on the Fauci protocols. I know
that but they can't all be okay with actions like this.
If you're in law enforcement and you're in Stacy, state
of Michigan, and you concur that this is criminal, look
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donate some time if it's If it's not money, it
might be that your time is more valuable and help
her get this actually her in front of a jury
and seen in front of a jury because of the
massive amounts of evidence you can see at her YouTube channel.
So Stacy, again, I'm sorry this has happened to you again,
and I appreciate you getting with us. And I want
(41:14):
to just apologize to people who donated to help this case.
Not because I don't believe in Stacy. I do, but
because of what this law firm peers to have done,
according to Stacy, and I feel bad for that.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
I feel bad for that.
Speaker 5 (41:29):
So Stacy, I was gonna say, all the money that
was raised was told to go to the widows, and
now she listening to the second time I've been on
your show with them, Damon mentioned it. We haven't talked
about how that money was to go to the victims,
but when everything was done with our case, we were
just told that money was all gone, and we don't
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know where that money went.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Oh gosh, I have a guess as to where it went. Well, Stacy,
God be with you. You're a brave warrior. And I
know God has Ryan in his embrace and he walks
with Jesus, and in that I know you guys will
be reunited.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Appreciate you coming on, Stacy.
Speaker 5 (42:10):
Yes, thank you, Thank you to the pirth.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
This is the Todd Herman Show.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Please go, be well, be strong, be kind, and please
make every effort to walk in the light of Christ.
And I know I intend to give my wife, my
beloved wife, a special huggle to get home given this
content of the show today
There's a lady we know, been a friend of the
show for a while. Name is Stasio Gressnik, and I
just was going through what do.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
We call this show?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
And I'll check off a throw what she thinks of this,
But I think we're gonna talk with someone who's a
Fauci protocol widow, and she refuses to give up a
fight for justice, and there's a massive change in her case.
We'll make you familiar with it, since a lot of
folks are new what happened, and then what happened, and
then what we need to have happened. So we'll do
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Speaker 1 (01:00):
Today is the day the Lord has made, and these
are the times through which God has decided we shall live.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Stacy O.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Grizznik joins, thisss been a while since you've had you
in the show. It's good to see you again. I
wish it was under different circumstances. Welcome back, can you Yeah,
you should be able to talk now, Stacy.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Welcome back.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Oh hi, how are you doing?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Goods good to see your face. And again, I wish
it was under different circumstances. A lot of people are
new to the cast and therefore new to your story.
You took your husband Ryan to the hospital and he
had some specific orders and some limits that you both
stayed at in the hospital. Let's talk about what happened.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Well to kind of like recap it.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
My husband went into the hospital, he's forty one years old,
helping male. Had a bacterial lung infection when he went in,
and instead they changed it over to a COVID protocol
and a COVID situation gave him rem de severe against
our consent, shut down his kidneys, try to hide it.
They ended up putting him on a ventilator while he
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had a ninety eight percent oxygen level. The doctor had
told me that he was going to vent Ryan with
or without his consent. I told him that was illegal.
He slammed the phone down on me, and then two
hours or a couple hours later, he called me back
and said he had vented him two hours ago, and
we come to find out that was a lie. He
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actually had not vented him yet because he told me
Ryan's oxygen dropped to forty percent he was turning blue,
and told him to just.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Do it, and all of that was a lie.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
And it ended up Ryan was still alert, texting people
that they were bringing him up a sedative to help
him feel better. He didn't know that two rounds of
xanax and two rounds of presidex would cause him to
go heavily sedation and to quit breathing. So his oxygen
dropped from from ninety eight percent to the.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Fifties and that dropped so they could him yep.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
And they had doctor told me it dropped a forty
percent and so it didn't quite reach to the level
he thought he would, but it got to the fifties
and they intubated him. And wait until we go over
what we discovered about that event. But in the end
they I had a doctor fight to try to save him.
And when they actually gave him so much fetanyl to
(03:32):
try to stop this doctor from saving his life because
a doctor had tried to fight to save him, gave
him I vermected he improved, and as he was improving,
they took it away from him, and in the end
they overdosed him with fentanyl. He was given over eighteen
or one eight hundred micrograms of fentanyl over the course
of three hours, when a normal max is one hundred
(03:53):
micrograms every four hours.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
So they made sure that he did not wake back.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Up medical murder.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
See, yes, oh absolutely absolutely. Uh you know, he he
ended up being put So I don't know if you
want me to go over the.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Things we're talking.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Let's go to the whole thing, because a lot of
people haven't heard this, and some people who have don't
know the new details, you know, So no, let's just
go through it, says, you take your time, okay.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Yeah. So what we had just now discovered within this
year from having his medical records reviewed by a medical
legal we had found out that not only had.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Marigo bret my burden, not only if not only did
we have a.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Not only did his oxygen was normal when they when
they put him on those drugs to vent him, they
had known that it had a known cuff leak, so
it had a it had a cuff leak, so it
was leaking oxygen, not given a medic what oxygen and
it would also then have all his mouth secretions go
into his lungs to cause aspiration pneumonia.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Wow, so they do things.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Yeah, they knew it.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
They knew this, They knew it.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
They actually documented it. A nurse had documented that his
lung that his vent had a known cuff leak uh,
and yet nobody changed that out and instead, so that's
gonna allow all his mouth secretions to enter his lungs.
Caused aspiration pneumonia. They left that, and it was caused
inadequate oxygen. So that's going to cause his organs and everything.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Else to shut down.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
So thirty four days out of forty four days there
he was left on a faulty ventilator system. And they
also knew at the time that they vented him, uh,
that he had a bed store and this bed store
was a level four bedstore to the bone, causing sepstress
in his body untreated nobody. I actually had just learned
(05:58):
about the bed store the last week of his life
through a nurse that pointed it out to me, so
that this is very serious, this is fatal, and uh,
nobody had told me about it prior. Nobody treated it
won't care was never called. And on day four, on
this faulty ventilator system, hospice had came in and go
(06:24):
Hospice came in and said, uh, discharge plan, pinkment will
pass in the hospital and then that's uh. They just
had put him on hospice care without our knowledge, without
our consent. So the whole time they're telling me they're
fighting for him to get better. And it makes sense
now because when I asked that nurse, what is he
(06:44):
on that's going to help him get off of this
and help him improve, she said, well, nothing, but it's
all we're allowed.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
To give him. And she said, if I fight for him,
I'll lose my job.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I think I remember this, you said, didn't you say
to her? You know you're killing my husband?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (07:00):
I said, are we going to let a healthy, forty
one year old man just die? Is that what you're
telling me? And she said it's not right. I know,
but if I fight for him, I'll lose my job.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Sometimes there's worse things than losing your job, like losing
your soul. She'll not murder. And you've got some lawyers
to help you, help you, quote help you. We'll talk
about that and how much this just made this worse,
and we'll get to that as well as we talk
with you through this. I want to, in a second,
fee to see an interaction that Stacy has in video,
(07:31):
because Stacey's a ton of evidence at her YouTube channel.
There's also a gift send go, and we're gonna tell
you why there's a gift send go here in a second. Okay,
we're still fighting for justice in this case and we'll
do that. But just as I have to tell you, Stacy,
we're working with this is a movie you should actually
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Speaker 1 (09:11):
So, Stacy, you had this interaction with this good doctor,
and remember you've called him the good doctor.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
So this is a bit of this. So set this
up for us.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Before we play the clips, so people have this context.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Sure, Uh yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
So when I was fighting for my husband and his
rights in the hospital, I was contacting any doctor I
could find and try to reach out see who could
break this protocol. And we found out through patient relations
there is nothing in the protocol that says or in
the policy that they can't break protocol and can't try
something else for the patient. So this doctor that you're
(09:47):
gonna hear actually tried ivermectin on my spouse and gave him.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
A proper dose steroid.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
And because he had such inflammation in his lungs and
his oxygen went from the low sixties to a hund
percent less than twenty four hours, and he was making
improvements and strides to come off the event that they
had him on and he was on it for I
think around three weeks at that time. So he started
to improve and they took it away from him other doctors,
(10:15):
and it became a battle in the hospital where Ryan's
rights start stop, where the doctors then can override our rights.
Because all the doctors stressed over and over that they
have to follow basically this cookie cutter medicine. Every patient
is treated the same, no individual patient care, and so
(10:37):
like what I've come to learn is that they pretty
much tried to stick with anything that the Cares Act
was going to compensate them for, and if the patient
needed anything outside of that, that's their cost. So it
was the hospital pretty much had this, you could tell it.
It seems they have this great idea to well, we'll
just give them only what the Cares Act will cover,
and if even if they need the other part to survive,
(11:00):
they die, and we show that we just treated with
the recommended treatment plan, Well, the prep BAT gives us
immunity to not be held accountable. Uh so, and then
they just pray no one finds out about uh mistreatment
or breaking standard of care, which would been Ryan's case
with the bed sore, with the faulty event, that's what
(11:20):
gives a way to hold them accountable. So sadly, if
they had if there was no faulty event and there
was no bed sore, no mistreatment, no violation of his rights,
and somebody went in and they said, okay, just treat
me with what that protocol is That prep BAT gave
them immunity to harm if they died while they followed
(11:41):
that protocol. It just does not protect breaking standard of
care or intentional harm. Uh so, But this doctor h
was up against a lot of people. There was only
one other doctor, the chief of staff working beside him,
and and and they're against everyone else was just against
(12:03):
him doing anything that might jeopardize their jobs. Ye.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
So yeah, And by the way, that's just reminder of
be of a playce clip. There was a lot of
money involved in all of this, and say sees correct.
But the Cares Act and the PREP Act, there's money
for changing it from viral pneumonia to COVID the minute
that happened. They got money when they put him in
the hospital. They got money when they PCR tested him.
They got money when they put him on remdem severe.
(12:28):
They got money when they vented him. They got money
when they were sedating him. I understand it. They get money.
He dies as a COVID case, they get money. And
there's many states where if the person died from quote
from COVID, and you know this case, it is clear
to me and my judgment your husband was murdered. That
(12:50):
states where they can call it a COVID death, life
insurance doesn't have to pay. So here's this interaction with
this gentleman you call the good doctor.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
Why would want to change the thing that was working?
Is it doesn't make any sense to me. I thought
we're all working together to make a patient uh survive,
they live, and now he's making it a personal battle.
This is this is a bigger battle. Now, you know,
this is not just about Brian. This is about uh
(13:18):
patient care and the air of COVID. You know, you
know basis medicine. I mean, you couldn't do anything, You
couldn't step out a lot uh just cooking cutter medicine
and to go along with the program, think of either
actually leave or got rid of you or you you know,
you had to watch. And I don't know who he's accountable,
So he should be accountable to Ryan, and you just
(13:40):
stopped to stare rights you know you're you're gonna kill him?
I mean I didn't. I wouldn't say that if I
didn't believe it. So I don't know if that was
his intention.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
I don't know what to say. Bryan got uh the
angrmin uh you bringing or you know it's just doing
all the things that we did.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
My gosh, what did they do to him?
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Well they killed him my judgment.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, So it was that doctor and another doctor say
the chief of staff, the chief of staff.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Couldn't stop this, no, no, you know, and the chief
of staff at the at the end after that conversation,
they had gotten the idea to try to make that
doctor behead of ICU starting that Monday, January third. It
was like a last ditch effort to try to save
him against the other ones just following unlawful orders.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
So they that was the plan.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Will make him be ahead of the ICU, and it
will be his choice what caer Ryan gets well. That
night before somebody had put in the orders to up
Ryan's fetanyl and me dazzlamb like substantially. So a max
dose of fetanyl for somebody who might be in a
motorcycle accident broken, had to toe in severe pain would
(15:00):
be like one hundred micrograms of fetanyl every.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Four hours four to six hours.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
Ryan was given five hundred micrograms in the hour, then
six hundred the next hour, then seven hundred and seventy
five micrograms in the next hour, for over one thousand,
eight hundred micrograms of fetanyl and over three hour window.
He was also put on medazolam in high dosage like
way higher than what they even used on death row
inmates and also on profofall. So it was like they
(15:28):
were fed up, We're not playing, We're stopping this, and
so they got him out quicker, like the nurse's aid
had told me they did to Room seventeen that they
had got them out quicker when they were fighting for
their rights.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
To break the protocol.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
And I stay in touch with the Room seventeen, so
we we know that they were forcing death onto patients.
I mean, it's clear, it's night and day and enough
to the point that after I was speaking out, I
got the ears of a sheriff and two criminal prosecutors
(16:03):
who heard my story and said this needs to be
criminally investigated right away.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yeah, and the criminal investigation might be very very important,
is very very important, because you came on our program
with a lawyer and former FEDS from Medical Freedom.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Wasn't that what they were calling themselves?
Speaker 5 (16:23):
They actually called well, they were calling themselves Declared Truth
Declared that.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Yeah, that was their group.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
But they were associated with a former Fed's Freedom foundation.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Okay, they were like associate with that, all.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Right, So they heard your story and the lawyers got
in touch and they were.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Just filled with fire to fight for you.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
And they went around the country, they got on my program,
we helped to raise money. And if you gave money
to that, I'm about to issue an apology I didn't
know and Stacy didn't know.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
And.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Talk about this lawlawyer and what's going on and this
this has to be spiritual, and I'm look, I don't
believe any longer. There's in my judgment, there's nothing our
government won't do to us, like nothing. So part of
me wonders if this wasn't a setup to make sure
that this happens to your case. Because of all the
(17:21):
people I've talked to, talked to Scott Shara and other
people who've been through this, you had the most evidence.
You have a lot of conversations in audio form. There's
no question that people knew what they were doing and
that there were other doctors trying to stop it. So
I think your case had to be tanked. So let's
(17:42):
talk about what happened.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
Okay, So yeah, after I came on actually your program,
the an attorney heard my story in the state of
California and he reached out, got it. I got my phone,
um or my information left his phone number. I called
him after getting his number, and he started the conversation
(18:07):
with can I just stop you and just pray with
you on the phone. I feel called by God to
take on these cases, you know, and I just.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Feel this pulling to do the right thing. YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
And he was saying, like everything, I was praying for
God to lead me to the right team to tackle
the situation.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
And while I.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
Had another assuring that I was ready to actually sign
on with, I loved that one for than the one
in California because I felt like God was redirecting me
from everything he said that fit things. I was praying,
this shows how bad the enemy can work. So I
trusted and went with him. And you know, he was
(18:50):
on contingency, but he did take some money up front
for covering filing fees, and he took some money from
various widows.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
He asked if there.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
Were more people in my state that were needing help,
and you know, basically connect them both. So he ended
up taking on several cases, and a few of them
in Michigan, and he ended up taking money from some widows,
never filing their cases at all, letting them believe that
(19:23):
everything was fine, and by the time they found out
that it wasn't, it was kind of oops, my bad,
I messed up. I forgot no money refunded and other
statue of limitations were done as for like me and
another one in Michigan.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Her name is Lorie.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
We actually ended up having our cases filed, but they
he filed the day of our statues being up, and
we never saw a hearing. We were never told when
there was a hearing. I actually found out about my
life asked hearing that was taking place by looking it
up online and found out that it was like the
(20:05):
next day. As I found out about it, his assistant
had told me I could watch it. It was being streamed
on YouTube, but I would have to log in under
an alias name and email to listen to my own hearing,
So that was already some weird red flags.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
I didn't know why.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
That didn't make sense to me, but time was of
the essence and it was starting, so I.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Just did it.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
So I created a name and fake email and set
up to go watch my hearing. Everything get dismissed without prejudice,
and was understanding why because we never got to know
any of our We never saw the complaint. We never
saw any hearings. We had no idea why. He just
told us that the judge was very liberal and hard
(20:49):
to deal with, and you can't win in Michigan. Left
it all on the court's fault, and then said that
we weren't allowed to contact our Michigan represented attorney and
ask him any questions about our case, that we were
not to bother him, we weren't to compare notes with
each other. And how much we paid I know. He
said that we were paying money because we needed to
(21:11):
have some skin in the game. Apparently losing our spouses
in a horrific way was not enough, so that was
why we had to give money so that we had
something in it.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
And then.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
Come afterwards, I asked him, I said, you know, we
asked for my you know, how long do we have
to refile? Told us we don't. He doesn't know. We
have to ask a Michigan attorney. And when I said, okay,
well I need all my records back. Can I get
my transcripts so we know exactly where the court's left off.
I need my medical records, which were all sent digitally
(21:45):
to them, and I had to send it through a
former FEDS group. I don't know why it couldn't be
sent directly to him, but it had to go through
former Feds, so that was another thing. So we sent
my records there and nobody would give me my records back.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
So afterwards he said that.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
He wasn't allowed to send them back because he was
denied Pearl Hawk to work out of state and told
us that it would make him look bad and he
didn't want those transcripts out there.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Told us he would send him to a new attorney.
If we can find a new attorney, he would send
our stuff to the new attorney. However, he also told
us all in a recorded zoom that that he would
discourage any new attorneys from taking on our cases and
tell them not to that God is now telling him
to back away from all this, and that God would
(22:35):
want us to back away and not fight it the
same way.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Wow, But I think there's correct me. If I'm wrong,
I think the judge or you found, at least in
the filings that he did do that bizarre filings. I
think the judge had commentary in this some mistake.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
I think when we visited earlier, you said that.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
So let's talk through that and Stasy has an organization,
Ryan's Fight for Truth. There's also a gift Send and Go.
There's a link in the show notes she needs help.
There's a criminal case to be investigated here. And people
have heard this and said, look, this sounds like a
criminal It does sound like a criminal offense to me,
and it would be fantastic if this could actually be
(23:17):
put into where it belongs, which is criminal law. The
same thing would have been true in Scott Shaff's case.
He's filed an appeal. A bizarre decision in that case
and that jury. I am at a loss as to
how the jury reached what it did, although the judge
was very aggressively against Scott in that case, and that's
now on record. So we'll talk about this with Stacy Agressik.
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lawyer who filed this paperwork, he wasn't really, it seems
filing a paperwork on your behalf. It almost seems like
what he filed was a kind of copy and paste
from a lawsuit completely disconnected from yours.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
Yeah, So after we had gotten it, I read the
transcripts and the first thing that caught my attention was
the judge and Laurie's case had made the comment that
they had never seen a reason to deny someone pro
hoc except for today, like this was the first time
all their years on the bench, the first time they
(26:11):
seen a reason to it to UH deny someone pro hoc.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
So I was like, what in the world happened?
Speaker 5 (26:18):
So once I got my uh copy of the complaint,
uh it read like a lawsuit against Pfizer or Gilead
for Rem de Severe and the prep Act would cover
something like that. They know that he knows that going
into it, And I was like, why is it all
about Rem de Severe? The whole darn thing is remdesevere
(26:39):
and so comparing it, we know that you know that
the people from former FADS had actually helped my complaint
and our complaints and they were filing a class action
lawsuit against remd Severe and so and trying they were
in the process of trying all that and so. So
(27:00):
it looks as though it was just a flat out
copy paste from their fight, their battle and then marked
it as mine as some of my doctor's names. Actually
some of Lori's doctors were in my complaint, but.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
We had it was just so sloppy.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
It literally the doctors that we were had in the
complaint had nothing to do with the reumda severe that
they were fighting, so of course it would make sense
for like the judge to be so confused by it.
The Devents team wanted to laugh it basically out of
the courtroom, going, we don't even know what.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
To do with this.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
We never seen nothing like this before, so it was
like a clear non attempt to actually fight this, but
the appearance of the fight was there. And so now
by the time I had rushed back to the first
attorney who wanted the case, I went back there. That's
(27:53):
where we did a medical legal review because the other
one never had. We never had a medical review down
in my records, ever found anything of those. Everything I
was going to look for and look into because I
knew something was wrong never done.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Did.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
They never even ask for any of my evidence before
even filing, so they never even seen it.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
What were they filing on?
Speaker 5 (28:13):
And so nothing was ever medically properly medically reviewed, and
so it left me kind of in the dark to
start all over. So once I over one thousand dollars
later to go get all my records myself, get it,
wait on everything to come in. That took months, and
by the time I was able to ready to file again,
(28:34):
we find that I can't file medical malpractice because that
statue is gone.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Wow, and again this guy waited until the last day.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah, so there's.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Nothing at that point that could be done, I mean
at the times of So then you get contacted by
you said, some law enforcement people. Yeah, yeah, and so
what's what's their view of this?
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Well, the two that I had taught to, they said
that they believe that this well, for my husband's case,
they believe that it is medical battery, negligent homicide, medical kidnapping,
and probably federal fraud.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
And are they willing to investigate that as law enforcement officers.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Uh, we're in the process of that. Okay, we're in
the process of the early stages.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Okay, so they seem willing.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
Yes, yes, yes, yep. So we're in the early stages.
And so I'm like looking anyone that can help advance
that I know. One had suggested said that this might
have to go to the Attorney General's desk because of
what the situation it is with some of it. So,
but anything that can be handled locally, obviously that would
(29:49):
be beneficial.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
But then in the case it is right, this doesn't
seem well A I do wonder because I think this
way now, given what they're willing to do to us,
if he was sent in to just destroy the case
and to poison the waters.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
And on the other hands, this.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
He made money from this. Yeah, do you have any
idea how much money he got?
Speaker 5 (30:20):
Well, I mean I know that there was thousands taken
collected from a lot of people. I do know that
one of the people was referenced as the millionaire in Texas.
That was one of their clients, and I do know
from talking to them that they paid significantly more upfront.
So I imagine that's someone he kept around the longest because
(30:42):
that was the one that had a lot of money
to work with. I don't know the status of their
case and where things are at, but I do know
every single other case has been dismissed, every single one.
All of us had the same exact complaint. It was
copy and paste, just like cookie cutter medicine in the hospital.
We're all on that same protocol. So yeah, it was
(31:03):
the same generic complaint. And the clients that he had
in his own state, they actually I was on the
phone with two of them when they had found out
their hearing was the next day. They were told through
a zoom meeting three months back that it was canceled.
I mean that it was, you know, dismissed, and so
(31:25):
they thought it was all done.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Same thing.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
Never had a hearing that they attended, didn't know, so
they took him for his word. While I was on
the phone with them, when they asked me how I
found out about when my hearing was. I said it
was online through the courts. That's how I found out.
So they went to go check to see if they
could get their transcripts if they were just you know, online,
and while doing that they found out they had a
hearing the next day. They were like, what, like, it's
(31:48):
it's They even called up a friend that works in
the courts.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
She works there.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
It's like, look at this and tell me if I'm
reading this wrong, because it says I have a hearing
the next day and we were told in a meeting
three months fact that everything's already been dismissed. So uh,
she came on, looked at I was on the phone
with them, and they said, yeah, there's a hearing tomorrow.
So she had the plan for them to write a
letter and give it to the bailiff to handle the
(32:13):
judge and say, hey, we haven't. We've been kept out
of in the dark for this whole time, no information,
and we didn't know, and we didn't give a chance
to even have our voices heard in court, and by
then it was just too late. They couldn't let the
judge see it beforehand because it would have been like
a you know, bias thing sway a decision, so they
they couldn't. But he told them to fight it afterwards
(32:35):
and told him that he thinks it's in the wrong
court anyway, that it should be a criminal case as well,
And that was coming.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
From their judge.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
The judge said, he thinks it should be a criminal case.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I mean, they said, but it
was like it was in the wrong court system, that
this should be bigger, even like a federal federal offense.
So they uh, they they even had some of them
had grieve and says against them from fines that they
didn't know about.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
So they had fees ranked up in the courts because
their attorney never told them they had any fees. So
this is how bad this is.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
I mean, everybody was giving all this money and we
were collecting their you know, having a school across the
country or a country of those states and telling our stories.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Yeah, I mean, I pro we're speaking everywhere.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
Yeah, the time when I was meeting with you, we
were getting ready to go into Texas, they had me
tied to Texas to tell my story. And when I
got to the airport, my flight was canceled. They pretend
they didn't know, you know how that happened, told me
to re buy my ticket. So I had to read
buy my ticket during the time when all my money
was tied up in probate, buy my ticket to get
(33:43):
there and never saw that money again.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Yeah, that's see.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
That's what I'm curious about is how much money they
collected on that front.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
As you guys were going around the country. And I
know that.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
You know, my friend and our common friends got Shara.
You know, he's he is appealed his case. He has
a book coming out. I can't talk much about it.
I have a pre prance and no, I just learned
about it, and I probably shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Have said that, So yeah, well I probably should have
said that.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
But then again, at least it's a little bit of
free promotion on this. I've been closing question for you
in a second. It's kind of a tough question. I'll
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to the gifts send goes below.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
And this is an effort.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
I mean, we want to go after this attorney, right
in addition to making sure that if we can get
a criminal investigation on this, we want a criminal investigation
for an investigation. We don't want to let the fight
go because in my judgment, Ryan was medically murdered. But
I have a tough question for you about that.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
In a second.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Okay, hey, I mentioned the other day my friend John
who runs Alan Soaps. You know he has not made
a secret effect that he's going to the Lord. That's
that's sometime next year or spring summer. Unless God decides
to change things, his life is going to end here
(34:58):
on earth. And one of the things you're trying to
do is set up for success this company. We've grown
to love Alan Soaps. This is the perfect season to
do this. So let me make this suggestion to you.
With this soap that is the best in the world
that is made in the Midwest, there's a family they
make it. They are three generations, kids, parents, grandparents making
(35:19):
the soap and it is all natural. It is designed
the fragrances by Alan, and he does this by things
that are very important in his memory. He has to
do it in a unique way because Alan's effectively nonverbal
and he's been through just I think it's the eighteenth
operation lately, a lot of challenges, but he still works
at the soap company every single day, quality control, inventing
(35:41):
new soaps. There's new fragrances. By the way, there's in
fact non fragrance. There's now liquid soaps. His brother, Ian,
is also really impacted by autism, is also working there.
So going into Christmas.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Here's our suggestion.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Great stocking stuffers with a promotion to subscribe to Alan
Soaps for businesses, great to have up front with the
promotion for Alan SOPs and they can send you these things.
There's business card, there's baseball cards with Alan's on it.
To spread this word. So let's see if you can't
this Christmas season convert people to Allen's and then convert
(36:16):
them to subscribers to Allan's so that when John's wife
takes over a running the company, they have a smoother start.
It's Alan Soaps dot Com slash Todd Alansoaps dot Com
slash Todd So here's the tough question, Sacy, do you
wish that you had ridden heard over this guy and
then all over him and looking at every piece of
paperwork and double checking it and basically acting as your
(36:39):
own attorney with an attorney.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
Well, yeah, I definitely regret trusting them, that's for sure,
because it ruined my chance to be heard and bring
my evidence to the court.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
And look at the.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
YouTube channel by the way, for the evidence, and tell
me that this wouldn't have gone to court.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Just go look at her.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
There's a link to Stacy's YouTube channel. You go look
at this and tell me that a judge wouldn't have
fun a way to get this like heard?
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Sorry, Stacy, Yeah, oh.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
Yeah, because I mean they they documented that he refused
the vent, that that was documented, and yet they set
him up for it and then it was faulty. It
was a faulty event.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
They knew it.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
I mean, you're causing more harm than what.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
He went in for.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
So do you wish that you'd take in say no,
I need to see what day am I going to
see the complaint? When will I get to review it
for accuracy? Do you wish that you had really, as
I said, just you know, managed this guy ridden herd
on top of the process.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
Oh me, hindsight, Yeah, but at the time, you know,
you're trusting that an attorney knows what they're doing.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
And it's the same thing like you know, you.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
Trust that doctors are medically trained and and that you
would know, you know that you would have right still
in the hospital.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
So everything is hindsight yeh.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
But even then, even if I was on top of him, uh,
you know, I'm taking him his word, like did you
I there's emails where I'm asking him, hey, did you
file an intent to sue? Notice in Michigan we need
an intent to sue and he says yes. Yet you
see in our transcripts that he didn't do that properly either,
any Moore, he told me it was done. So, I mean,
(38:08):
there was like a lot of times when I was
even talking to Scott Shara and even saying because Scott
Schara almost got the same attorney too, except for I
refer the first one to him that he knows his
attorney was the first one I was gonna go with.
So I I was talking to Scott and I just said,
you know, I don't know, am I just is it
(38:29):
paranoia or am I doing?
Speaker 4 (38:30):
Is he doing everything right? But we were stuck. You
know at that point you're gotting neck deep in it.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
What are you gonna do? And you're trusting his word
that he's saying, yes, everything is fine, we're good, We're
all great. You know, this is beautiful complaint and YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
In your year you believe.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
Okay, yeah, they got this, especially someone who comes in
the name of God and acting like you know, they
were doing Gosh work and God's mission and we stay
in that to a bunch of Christians who are gonna,
you know, be receptive to that. So yeah, it's like
it was target targeted.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
So what do you hope to do against this attorney?
I mean disbarments, you know, criminal complaints. What do you
intend to do against this guy?
Speaker 5 (39:12):
Well? I think there should be some accountability for what
was taken from Ryan, and not even just Ryan, but
all the widows. And if I can be that voice
for all the widows that were affected, and some of them,
I mean not all of them are widows. Some of
them lost parents or lost other people, but just the
vast majority were widows or widowers. And so if there
(39:35):
can be some justice to hohold accountability for what was stolen,
because it was we were revictimized twice. Not only do
we trust medical people, but then we trusted a law
firm to represent us and have our voices have a
chance to be heard. Nothing is a guarantee when we
know that, but damn it, try try for us and
actually put an effort in there to have our voices heard,
(39:56):
because had all this evidence been brought forward into a court,
who knows where it could have went, you know, from
there much quicker. So instead of having us have to
start all over again. Yeah, I mean, we just like
we were just money to the hospital. It feels like
we were just money to that law firm.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
And so if there are I know there are lawyers
watching and are listening, and you know how to get
a bar complaint, please help Stacy with that. I know
this guy violated professional code of ethics and in Canada
of ethics.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
I know that.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
And if you know a way to get that in
front of the licensing boards and the bar associations, I
ask you, do you that I know the bar Association's
body in on the on the Fauci protocols. I know
that but they can't all be okay with actions like this.
If you're in law enforcement and you're in Stacy, state
of Michigan, and you concur that this is criminal, look
(40:52):
donate some time if it's If it's not money, it
might be that your time is more valuable and help
her get this actually her in front of a jury
and seen in front of a jury because of the
massive amounts of evidence you can see at her YouTube channel.
So Stacy, again, I'm sorry this has happened to you again,
and I appreciate you getting with us. And I want
(41:14):
to just apologize to people who donated to help this case.
Not because I don't believe in Stacy. I do, but
because of what this law firm peers to have done,
according to Stacy, and I feel bad for that.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
I feel bad for that.
Speaker 5 (41:29):
So Stacy, I was gonna say, all the money that
was raised was told to go to the widows, and
now she listening to the second time I've been on
your show with them, Damon mentioned it. We haven't talked
about how that money was to go to the victims,
but when everything was done with our case, we were
just told that money was all gone, and we don't
(41:51):
know where that money went.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Oh gosh, I have a guess as to where it went. Well, Stacy,
God be with you. You're a brave warrior. And I
know God has Ryan in his embrace and he walks
with Jesus, and in that I know you guys will
be reunited.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Appreciate you coming on, Stacy.
Speaker 5 (42:10):
Yes, thank you, Thank you to the pirth.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
This is the Todd Herman Show.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Please go, be well, be strong, be kind, and please
make every effort to walk in the light of Christ.
And I know I intend to give my wife, my
beloved wife, a special huggle to get home given this
content of the show today
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