Dr. Fauci’s Lawyer Contacted Film Director Jenner Furst: He STILL Made “Thank you, Dr. Fauci.” Ep-2474

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We've been begging for a movie about Tony Fauci. You know,
he's the science it self. And the movie's out and
it is extraordinarily well done. It is raw. Thing I
love about it is you follow the filmmakers along as
they researched the film, and the director joins us. Jenner First,
will do this with the help of God Almighty.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
The Todd Herman Show is one percent disapproved by big
pharma technocrats in tyrns everywhere from the hind Mountains of
Free America. Here's the Emerald City exime.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Todd Herman. Today is the day the Lord has made,
and these are the times through which God has decided
we shall live. Joining me from Los Angeles, California, the
award winning director of This Time Around. Some movie is
called Thank You, Doctor Fauci. Jenner First, Welcome to the
Todd Hermit Show. It's good to have you here.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Jenner, thank you so much for having me. Todd excited
to talk about the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah, no, it's an exciting film. And just let me start.
I said this, you know when we were talking in
the green room, the virtual green room. Number one. Thank
you for being the guy who made the film. No.
One else was willing to get through standards and practices
and lawyers, et cetera and being brave. Thank you for that.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Yeah, it was It was a journey. I don't think
I am the same as I was before I started,
but I don't regret it.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Yeah, what caused you to want to make this movie?
And I don't mean that in the pr rip and
terror QA. I genuinely want to know why did you
want to do this?

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Well, at this point in my career, I get solicited
a lot. I get a lot of emails for films.
I have agents, lawyers, people who bring things to me
because it's hard to pursue a film you see in
the headlines when you're in my industry, because at this point,
people just rip the headlines constantly. And I kind of

(02:10):
approached my career more like a Ouiji board. I trust
the spirit, so to speak. And I was introduced to
two gentlemen, Lewis Fenton and Scott Saint John, who we
had a mutual contact with, and I was told that
they were looking for a director, one who had an
accomplished body of work, one who would be taken seriously

(02:32):
to genuinely and authentically investigate Anthony Fauci, and at first
I dismissed it. You have to understand I come from
a non political but progressive background, and I believe that
I had wilfully been complicit in a stream of information

(02:53):
that suited my sort of environment. But I'm a deeply
cynical person. I've made a lot of investigative documentaries. I
pulled back the veil on some truly heinous things, given
voice to the voiceless, seen real crimes against people without
their consent, and sought justice for a lot of people.
So I was open minded, and when I left the call,

(03:17):
I said, let me look into this because it's ironic.
At the beginning of the pandemic, I had been attached
to a film about Anthony Fauci, but it was a
totally different perspective. It was one that celebrated his work
bringing down the AIDS pandemic in Africa during the Bush administration.
So when I left the call and I said I

(03:40):
would genuinely poke around and see if this was something
I could take on. I spent about three hours on
the Internet only to find that there were over one
hundred thousand pages of evidence that showed one of the
largest cover ups in history, and underneath that cover up
probably one of the most sinister and disturbing initiatives of

(04:02):
the US government, of our partners globally, and specifically a
forty year history or more of a man who claimed
to be a figure in public health, who was essentially
jeopardizing the public's health. So I was compelled, and I
had Fauci's contact from the last project. So it began

(04:26):
this journey of investigation in earnest and I brought in
two colleagues, Lee Schweneger and Audicatorans, who I had worked
with before, who were fiercely independent thinkers who wouldn't have
been afraid of doing this with us, And we began
the journey, and it was something that took a lot
of reflection. My partner, Arnold Rifkin, has been in this
industry for forty years, at the top of this industry,

(04:50):
and knows what it is to be blacklisted. He's seen
some of his clients be blacklisted. He was the president
of William Morris Agency, and we consulted each other on this,
and we talked about the blowback, we talked about the
potential downside. But having lived through COVID and having seen
so many of our colleagues and so many of our

(05:10):
friends and family have dissenting opinions, which now we were
beginning to all feel the same way that something horrible
had happened. We agreed to do it, and the rest
is history, and the rest you see in the movie.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
I love that you did in the movie give us
a view into you guys discovering things. I thought that
was very clever, and there's some raw moments where you
guys are literally responding to what you're learning, and that
really drives the movie at this this great pace, also
this intimacy, and it helped me relive some moments that

(05:44):
shocked me as a media guy. You'll remember the doctors
from Bakersfield who came out and did that press release
or that press conference, and hey, none of this makes
any sense. We've got this ninety eight point ninety nine
point eight seven percent survival rate, and you know, we
don't need to be shotting a hospital on the guy
sitting across from me you met earlier, Alex. My producers
spent the morning trying to chase those clips down because

(06:06):
they kept geessing. Disappeared, They disappeared from YouTube, They disappeared
from Facebook, Instagram. Finally we got it from bit shoots.
I mean, this is on live radio, Jenner, as we're
trying to pull these things down. As a media guy,
that fastened me and scared me as a tech guy.
When I grew to understand the PCR fraud, you turned
the PCR test up high enough the bottom of your

(06:27):
shoe test pot of positive for COVID people tested positive
with grapefruits.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
What was your peak.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
COVID moment where you began to question this as a
progressive and it was weird that those lines got drawn,
But what was your peak COVID moment where you thought, hey,
maybe something's not right here. I know you looked back
and said I was complicit, But what was that peak
moment that you looked back.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Well, it's interesting you ask, you know, for me, complicit
is still deeply cynical. I knew everything was wrong when
it was happening. I complicit. I mean that I had
willfully decided to ignore it. Because in the world we
live in, you make a decision what kind of information
you want to consume, and we live in a choose
your own adventure information economy. You can literally construct your

(07:17):
own reality based on the new news feed that you
choose to watch, and for me, I was complicit in
digesting The New York Times. I was not really interested
in being on social media during COVID. I had taken
the sabbatical in Arizona. I was in the desert. I'd
left New York City right in early March of twenty twenty.

(07:38):
I basically barely escaped the shutdown, and I felt very fortunate.
And I was also working a lot, because in the
beginning of COVID there was a boon and content, and
I was working on a lot of documentaries, some of
which became huge documentaries like Lula rich and Murdoch murders
and things like this that were trended very highly on streamers.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
But for me, I.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Believe that when I really felt disturbed was when I
realized the patterning and that this was not just about
COVID and I'm actually getting chills now. There were some
real peak disturbing moments for me realizing the connection of
say Lime's disease, that that's been basically a lab leak

(08:26):
for the last I guess now fifty plus years, and
that it was so simple when you look at it,
and it's so patterned, just like COVID, and that we're
pinpointing something to Wuhan, and you know, we're pinpointing some
something to line Connecticut, when really the root is Rocky
Mountain Fever and nowhere near there. And there was an

(08:49):
insect bioweapons lab right off the coast of Connecticut called
Plumb Island near montac and it just was so obvious.
And then you look at a bulla and then you
look further back. And to me, the moment when I
believe I had a psychic break of sorts, when I
really felt my heart palpitating, was looking at the first

(09:16):
major outbreak of HIV and understanding that this too could
have been the product of scientific arrogance, and that beyond
being the product of scientific arrogance, this too was part
of a pattern of cover ups that even Anthony Fauci
had his hands on. And the same very scientists in

(09:38):
the late nineties who he tapped to write papers which
were very non scientific in nature, were just slamming a
hypothesis that deserved real serious consideration, that trying to cure
one pandemic and trying to race to get a vaccine
for a polio had in a virtually contaminated a bunch

(10:02):
of trial doses of an oral polio vaccine in Conchasa,
and the first major outbreak of HIV was in Conchasa
two years after that trial in nineteen fifty nine. And
when I began to make those connections and I began
to see the effort to uncover that and what happened

(10:22):
to the people that uncovered that, it had really hit
me because I grew up in a time when the
AIDS pandemic claimed a lot of lives. I know people
who have died of HIV and AIDS, and I know
people who have that virus and who live with the
stigma of this virus. And I also began to see

(10:43):
how he didn't do anything to cure that virus, and
that you do the research, there's people who really intended
to cure that virus who have disappeared off the face
of the earth because we don't want to cure viruses.
We don't want to cure illness in this country, as
much as it flagues us, as much as it hurts
our families, that's not the interest of folks like Fauci

(11:04):
and our pharmaceutical industry. They want perpetual illness and unwell
people to treat wherever and ever, because that is a
great product. Antibiotics don't even get any good research because
you use them once and they're done. No, they want
you on something that you're going to be on for
the rest of your life. And similarly, this vaccine had

(11:25):
no potential to stop the spread of COVID. If anything,
there were moments when the mRNA vaccine may have made
new variants in certain parts of the worlds. You can't
stop the spread of this virus. And to this day
you hear my voices nasally, I have a little bit
of a sore throat. I'm almost certain I had COVID again,
because the bottom line is that this is a juiced

(11:50):
up common cold with horrible, horrible fragments, pieces of HIV,
pieces of other viruses, things that get pierce your the
your brain barrier, okay, things that permanently disrupt your autoimmune system,
and that the vaccine itself did nothing more than to
amplify that. Now and a lot of people, not everybody,

(12:11):
but a lot of people are having major complications and
some have died. And I would say at this point
a lot of people have died from that vaccine and
lived in a horrible quality of life. And the reality
is if people wanted to take that vaccine because they
had cancer where they were elderly, they deserve the right
to do that. But mandating and shutting down the economy,

(12:32):
all of the recommendations that were spearheaded by Faucci while
he was covering up one of the worst public health
disasters in history, Now that is a disturbing story. Yeah,
and I don't think I've ever been the same after
being inside of it.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah, and it was a brave thing for you to say.
Being complicit mean choosing to ignore, choosing to look the
other way. There are a couple of things for me
and this. Then I want to roll into some of
the specifics of the film. And by the way, please
go to Angel the slash Hermon You can stream this now.
Become a member of the Angel Guilds and help make
sure movies like this get funded and distributed to Angel

(13:08):
dot com slash Herman. A couple of things that sit
up for me. I'm a community college dropout, you know,
lucky mutts, got into tech and startups and so a
grew to understand systems thinking. So when I write about
the design of these injections, and I said, wait a minute,
you're going to hijack people's genes and have it produce
a facsimile of the spike protein, which is cytotoxic to

(13:31):
the human body. This isn't going to derange people's immune systems.
This can't end well. I'm a community college dropout looking
at this, going this is going to hurt people, And
doctors didn't come along and say this. But the thing
that really got me was then the nanolipid particle that
the injections are wrapped in causes it to go everywhere
in the body. And yet I had doctors on TV
and radio and going in on my show claiming this

(13:52):
stuff stayed at the side of the injection. Okay, technically
maybe true, but it hijacks your genes. And now you
have forty two million spike proteins. That was to me
a massive medical lie. Massive, and you went and confronted
You started with origins. A couple things came out of
your film. I'd never considered a lot did. Actually I've
studied this. A couple guys may well have been spies,

(14:16):
people with NGOs who faucy laundered money through isn't supposed
to work with Wuhan, so he stopped directly funding Wuhan.
He did the money laundering bits, and do I understand directly,
but this idea that some of these guys were spying
on the Chinese Communist Party and maybe turning around and
double spying on us.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yeah, and guess what, that's not unique at all?

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Oh good, those.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
Communities that exist on planet Earth. And this is a
this is really the real where the rubber means the road.
You know, when we read the news, we think nuclear
weapons are the biggest threat. Bioweapons are the biggest threat.
And bioweapons are the biggest threat not because they can
kill far more people than nuclear weapons, which they can,

(14:59):
and not because they can be made in a high
school chemistry classroom, which they can. It's because they have
the power to control, subvert, and by design change society
without anyone knowing that it happened. And if you look
back at COVID, that's exactly what happened. You and I
live in a digital space now where we prefer to

(15:21):
be on screens. We're isolated, we spend less time together.
Many of our businesses and economies have shifted a lot
of people were left behind. There was arguably the largest
transfer of wealth ever in modern history, and an election
was swayed and products generated hundreds of billions of dollars
that were completely dysfunctional and had no purpose. We were

(15:44):
able to roll out technology that would have never been
approved to roll out without a disaster. And you ask yourself, well,
this thing only kills so few people, how did this happen? Well,
could you think of anything more powerful and useful as
a tool? Viruses that are in research now that people

(16:07):
that kill twenty or thirty it's frightening.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
And there was a bunch of fre work. And I
know you know this. There was a Harvard study. I
think they got forty five million dollars to do. It
was a six groups of personas on how to con
people into the injections fear of loss, full of fear
of social ostracization, opportunity for gain, hero worship. Really fascinating

(16:32):
stuff that Harvard participated in. So when you began making
the movie, there's a couple of things that stand up
for me. Was you talked to a scientist who casually
dressed guidman. I blanket his name.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
But he said about Fauci, and he studied his career.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
He said, there's a word we don't like to use
in the scientific community. He called it the F word.
What did he mean?

Speaker 3 (16:55):
Fraud? And you're talking about Neil Harrison. Yes, was one
of my great resources because he had a gimlet eye
about a community that he's been part of his entire
adult life, you know, the scientific research community, academia, people
who thrive and survive and depend upon grants that Fauci

(17:19):
would sign and others would sign through the US government.
I think that scientific fraud by nature goes against the
very spirit of science, because if you are someone who
believes in science, contrary to those who believe that science
is separate from say, religion or faith, science is in
it self a religion and faith, and that you believe

(17:42):
in the facts and that you must be brave enough
to present the facts as they are objectively, with no
opinion other than those driven by the facts. And when
people commit fraud within science, it violates the very spirit
of science. And this is what happened year after year
after with a demigod bureaucrat who was running science in

(18:08):
a very controlling way that served the government and not
the facts or the data.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, and there's this this man. There's so many aspects
to the perverse incentives he installed.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
As part of that fraud. I marvel at the fact.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
And forgive me, I know you come from a progressive background,
but one of the things I marveled at was how
quickly in my family, I'm the only conservative. I'm the
only Christian in my family on my side of the family.
And and watching progressive suddenly feel forced to defend pharma
and things like the CDC scientists taking a raak on

(18:49):
ip of pharmaceutical companies, the FDA getting forty percent of
its funding through pharma, And I'm looking at this and saying,
wait a minute, you guys were right about pharma. Now
you're going to be wrong. There was a massive media
push on this.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
That was so so.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
So effective on people. And you're a media guy. I mean,
you're more of a media guy than I am. How
complicit do you think the mainstream media was in this
to push this?

Speaker 3 (19:18):
They were completely bought out. Okay, that's simply money. I
mean I think that others have exposed for a couple
of years now and it's become more apparent. I mean,
this is something that RFK has been saying for a
while is that you can't dismantle the system until you
make advertising pharmaceutical products illegal in the United States. If

(19:40):
you look at tobacco products, you know you can't advertise
them the same way that you could before all of
that big scandalous stuff happened. Well, let's dissect what's actually
happening with pharmaceutical companies. And it's not just pharmaceutical companies.
Sometimes it's foreign governments, it's it's anyone who intends to
have a power lobby. The way you do it is

(20:01):
you get every single media outlet that sells advertising drunk
off your money, and you buy massive amounts of inventory
even though you have no intent to sell the products
you're advertising. Let's think about it. Did we really go
and buy that new psoriasis med that we see advertised
late at night? Do we buy that new bizarrely named

(20:24):
product that has ten million disclosures in the commercial? No,
we don't buy that. What's actually happening is that station
is making tens of millions of dollars a quarter off
those advertisements. And when that station or that publication or
The New York Times or whoever decides to write a story.

(20:45):
That story is faced with a problem, and upper leadership
quickly learns that they're going to pill their ads if
something is not changed about that story. And that's why
we can't trust anything about the media. And sadly, I
hate to say it, you also can't trust anything about
what you're seeing on social media. You can't trust any

(21:06):
of it. You have to use a gimlet eye and
you have to use your own human instinct to determine
what you think is fact or not. And I will
just say this, how convenient is it that we now
live in very controlled, rametically sealed environments around our own
personal realities. We live on screens. We don't go out
in our community. We're not willing to talk to other people,

(21:28):
we don't socialize. This is what the pandemic did. And
how do you have the most control of people? Put
them in that environment. Because we're human beings and where
we thrive is in community and human to human contact.
You take away human to human contact, you are now
in a position of ultimate social control. So take a
zoom out and look at what happened there.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Oh well said, and the churning of people against one another.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
This was.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
This is one of the more phenomenal things I experienced
because I was living in Seattle part of that time
and driving over and doing the show there and doing
national radio from there and living in North Idaho, completely
different experiences. They succeeded in these putting people in these
info cells, and people then only got the info they knew,
and they could be completely blind to things. And man

(22:14):
watching people get beaten up in Seattle before they're not
wearing a mask. I got escorted out of a mall
because I refused to mask. I never wore one, and
I was being called a war criminal. And will continue
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(22:35):
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(23:51):
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And Fauci engineered all this. And what was astonishing to
me about this, and you show a bit of this
in the film is the Teflon nature of the fouch.
Remember that infamous scene in the baseball game where he
mask on, mask off and there was even the talk

(24:13):
of triple masking. He got away with all that, but
you came up with I think in the movie. One
of the most teflon natures of Fauci is he actually
responded to an email from you because I was rooting
for you. Like dude has Fauchi's email. First email, doesn't respond,
second email, he writes back, No, your proposal seems interesting
to me. You know. Maybe we put heads down on

(24:34):
my book and I am science itself and I'm very
busy being science. And he didn't, you know, he didn't
agree to come on. You wrote back a little bit
later after you discovered some things, and I can't remember
if this is when you went back to d C
and you were I think it was Jamie Rafker, the
one of the congressmen you were with that you confronted.
You wrote him again and you got a response, not

(24:57):
quite from an admin, uh, because admins don't charged two
thousand dollars an hour. But talk about that response you
got the third time he tried to get Fauci to
come on the film.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Well, the second I said, you know, I understand you're busy,
but I'm mostly concerned with the idea of bioweapons research
and gain a frontal research and potential intelligence tie ins.
And it's a murky space and I'd like your input
on it. I think that's when Robert Barnett, an attorney

(25:30):
who coincidentally has worked for three recent presidents of the
United States and many other power brokers in the world,
stepped in to field the request. And it was signaling
that I'm very familiar with. It was a tread carefully
and I need to make sure that my counsel is
looped in on this so that they are aware of

(25:51):
the threat. But this is not new to Faucci. He's
been forged by extreme conflict because it wasn't something he
would afraid of. And I think he wasn't afraid of
it because he was anointed starting in the Reagan administration.
When you do a favor for a president and for
eight years, you don't mention a pandemic that's killing a

(26:12):
lot of people, and you allow that pandemic, which was
the AIDS pandemic, to spread amongst poor communities, communities of color,
and homosexual communities who are easily demonized by a voter base.
You do a favor for someone who remembers that favor,
and you instill yourself in a bureaucracy. In America, bureaucrats

(26:34):
end up becoming a lot more powerful than presidents themselves
because they don't need to be elected, and when someone
is elected, they're introduced to all the most powerful bureaucrats,
and those bureaucrats and many times are able to steer
presidents themselves. And I think that that's the story of
Anthony Fauci and that parallel with Oppenheimer. But if you

(26:55):
look back at Oppenheimer, the man had a real moral
conscious about what you know had happened, and he lived
in a lot of psychic pain about the idea of
what he had done. And it was a different time,
and we'll never live in a time like that again,
when good and evil are so clear, and the fear
of evil conquering the world is so clear, because nowadays,

(27:18):
the fear of evil conquering the world is a manipulation,
and that, unfortunately is the truth, because we don't know
the very evil in front of us, because it's the
very thing convincing us that something else is evil. And
I'm frightened by that. I'm frightened by what you said
as well. I think the biggest takeaway of the film
is social division, because the truth is is that we

(27:42):
need to be listening to each other. We need to
be respecting each other. Someone has a differing, you know,
belief than me. I need to listen to them. I
need to respect their humanity and the light within them
the same way I need them to do the same
for me and those who I love. And if we
lose that as a people, and in fact, that is
very anti Christian. As you speak to your faith, there's

(28:04):
nothing in Jesus's words that say we're supposed to vehemently
hate one another or cast them aside, or hurt them
or shoot them or do anything like that. So I
think we live in a perversion of right and wrong,
and people like Fauci thrived in that perversion.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah, and you know you brought up my faith, and
the audience well knows I'm an evangelical Christian, and so
for me, I have optimism in this and that this
sounds very much like what the Bible told us is
going to happen. And I think they describe people like
Fauci and I don't think. I don't. This is me
projecting my belief about Fauci through observation. I think he's

(28:43):
a psychopath and maybe a sociopath and a functional.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
One for sure, definitely one of the two.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah, and there's there's a moment my audience knows, well,
this is another one. To me that was just it
was it was wind sucking that people in media didn't
see this for what it was. He was on a
morning show television show and there would take con qussions
from an audience and hey, Kathy from DALs, Texas says
her son got the first injection and he fell into

(29:11):
anaphylactic shock and had to get immediate er treatment. What
should he should do about the second shot? And I
remember Fauci, I remember this exact quote. Well, I would
wait until some of the effects of the anaphylectic shock
went went down, and definitely get to second booster first,

(29:33):
do no harm.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
That's a sociopath or a psychopath.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Saying those things. And I don't think. And this is
the thing about Fauci, I think he likes psychopathing. Now
you tell me you you did more research on Fauci
than maybe I did, and the film Angel dot com
Sash Herman, it's called Thank You, Doctor Fauci. I think
he likes psychopathy because I think he likes to display
his power. What he's doing. I am science itself, you know.

Speaker 4 (29:57):
Saidator Paul.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
You know, with all due respects, you don't know what
you're talking about. I don't have to disclose to you
what the CDC earned in licensing. I think he gets
a kick out of psychopathing publicly and knowingly. Does that
make any sense?

Speaker 3 (30:14):
Well, I think that it's an evolution, and it's one
driven by the drunkenness that power provides people, okay, and
that once you have enough power, power corrupts absolute, power
corrupts absolutely. And I think that in the case of Fauci,
I kind of saw it a little bit more like
a Twilight Zone episode or a Black Mirror episode. That's

(30:36):
really what my overlay was is people can start out
with good intentions, but when the illusion of success, power, control, supremacy,
elite inclusion, the highest achalons of the field you sought

(30:56):
to be a part of, When those things are dangled
in front of you, all humans are tested and their
morality is put on the spot and Unfortunately, it's part
of our nature to be seduced by things like this,
and some of us break the spell, and some of
us don't. I have trouble, I really do. I have

(31:18):
trouble looking at any human being as evil or anything
that is that kind of label, because I believe that
evil is outside of our spirit. Evil is something that
can seduce our spirit, and that we all have inherently

(31:38):
good qualities and potential to be good, and that ultimately
it's easier for me to look at people intoxicated or
sick with something truly sinister than them being the cause itself.
And I think that Fauci wouldn't exist if he didn't
serve a far greater evil and sinister body, a body

(32:00):
that's almost like a hydra. You can cut off its
arm and it'll grow a new one. You can cut
off its head and it'll grow a new one and
it doesn't die. And that is the type of evil spirit,
if we were to call it that way, if we're
to use that type of filter that seduces people. And
so it's easier for me to see his humanity as

(32:21):
someone who really lost his way, really lost his way,
and by the time he lays down on his deathbed
and goes to the other realm. He will have to
face all of the things that happened along the way,
and that will be a very painful journey for him.
So I have no choice but to see it that way.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Yeah, when we're being good Christians, I would view Fauci
as a psychopath who is a spiritual captive. And Jesus
Christ called on us to free the captives, and so
we have to pray for Fauci. It takes a lot
of money to make movies like this. And will continue
to talk with Jenner First, the director of Thank You,
Doctor Fauci, and man, I'd love to collaborate and continue

(33:05):
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That's three nine eight Christians, do you compared as you
brought up azt in the film and I assume you've

(34:28):
read the book Fauci's First Fraud. Have you read that.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
I read a lot of books about Fauci and talked
to a lot of people who wrote books about Fauci,
and so there's many many that exposed. Many frauds happened
the year AZT.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
There's a reference in your film to a drug so
poisonous it had to be taking off the market. The
guy who invented AZT refused to patent it because it
was so poisonous in all the trials.

Speaker 4 (34:54):
So I look at AZT, I look.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
At Remdemsevere, and I say, oh wow, that's interesting. There
was one solution. Fauci had this kit for how to
treat people. It didn't work. It added to the problem.
And your film unveils the fact that some of the
same scientists were involved, as you said, in sort of
that two step as well, Hey here's a paper written

(35:17):
by scientists. It's not scientific, but the media can quote
it this way. They didn't get pardons. Fauci got this
very suspects preemptive pardon, which is constitutionally, in fact, logically bizarre.
Those guys don't have They didn't get any waivers. They
didn't get Biden, you know, signing any premptive pardons on them.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
Do you think they'll ever see earthly justice.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
In the courts in our country. Do you think that
farmer is too big and they're just gonna get let go?

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Well, you know, I think to what we've been discussing
this whole time, if we were to put a spiritual
filter on it, the earth itself is a testing ground,
filled with pain and unjust things and choices. And if
we're to believe in a higher realm, they're suffering is

(36:13):
already happening now, whether the justice system has rendered it
or not. And I think that ultimately we have to
take that approach that we can't trust our systems to
correct the very thing that our system encourages and rewards.
It doesn't make sense. So either we're going to make
space for people to be broken, sinister, lying, torturing, evilly

(36:39):
inspired captives, or you know, we're going to believe that
the very system is that is going to police them.
And I think the only anecdote to that condition or
that problem in the world is connection, and what fuels
it is isolation. So if work did, if we're connected

(37:01):
to one another and we're actually relating to each other
across all bounds and beliefs, and we're doing so with empathy,
and we're doing it in a way that seeks to
understand one another. That is the ultimate protection for those
who are committing these types of information crimes, you know,
war crimes really is because we're connected. And that's how

(37:22):
we dismantle power systems that seek to oppress us, is
through the body of our collective spirit. And I think
that this is exactly what happened with COVID is it
sought to divide that and set a line between us.
And that's when products and pharmaceutical products and tech products
and all sorts of things thrive in that environment. And

(37:44):
what actually is depraved and hurt and broken is the
very thing that we seek, which is connection. So we
have to remember that.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Ye, that's a good point as we close out here.
I wanted to take you up on something you talked about.
Coming from a progressive background, and it's important that we
be able to respect one another and hear one another.
And I would if I had the money to play with,
I would come to you with the proposal to go
investigate the gender what I would refer to as gender

(38:15):
madness against children. I don't mind if an adult wants
to go get plastic surgery and wrong sex hormones. I
do mind being told to pretend that I believe a
man is a woman. I am dead set against what
I've discovered about what pharma has done to families and kids,
because I see the same pipeline.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
You know.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
Little girl comes in, she's twelve, she thinks she's a boy,
and the people at children's hospitals set the parents down
and say, here's the deal. You could either have a
living son or a dead daughter, and you have to
decide that right now, and talk therapy doesn't work and
it's cruel. So let's get her on shots, and let's
get her on drugs the rest of her life. And
you have therapists now suddenly taking a cut of estrogen

(38:55):
and testosterone and surgeries. Given a progressive background, do you
see any I see a straight line comparison between what
farm has done to families and kids and same sigh
up in my mind as they have carried out with COVID.
Do you see any similarity there?

Speaker 3 (39:13):
You know? I think that again, I look at families
that I know that have effects of both sides of
the conversation here, that have children that are affected by this,
that are in school, and many of them are just
trying the things you talk about, because I have a

(39:34):
cynical eye about everything, including the influence of these companies
that make tons of money off this whole doctrine. But
ultimately it comes down to the same principle for me,
and when I say I'm a progressive, none of that
is political. I see information warfare everywhere, and I just

(39:54):
seek to understand. Really, I've actually had to redefine who
I am. You know, I see things libertarian doctrine that
makes sense to me. I see things in progressive doctrine
that makes sense to me. But one thing is for sure.
Anything we're seeing on the media that's forcing us to
have these conversations and be viscerally affected by things happening
outside of our community is a manipulation because the only

(40:18):
thing you can really control is what's happening in your family,
your school, your street. Now you get to the city level,
if you cannot drive somewhere, this is not an issue
that you have any control over. And the idea that
we've been fed global news and national news is something
to incite curiosity, desperation, fear, and need to be agitated

(40:40):
to say something. We have to understand that that itself
is a manipulation. If you're worried about what's happening in Vermont,
or what's happening in Texas, or what's happening and you
don't live there, okay, Or you're worried about California, or
you're even worried about DC, guess what, You don't actually
have the ability to affect that. And you've been told
that by consuming the information every day that you're going

(41:02):
to be better off. It's the opposite. You need to
go outside your house, walk your dog, talk to your neighbor,
go to your school, help out, go if you want
to help people, help people, okay. Helping people is not
being a keyboard warrior. Helping people is talking to them
and being a part of their lives. And you can't
do that any further than you can drive. You want
to fly there, great, how often are you going to

(41:24):
fly there? You want to worry about something so far
away that it'll take you twelve hours to fly there.
You are being seduced with information that's not your concern.
And that's the real thing that I believe needs to
be understood by people when they watch the news.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
And I think what you say, I take very very
well because I spend my time volunteering with youth. When
I'm not with my family, not at the gym, nut here,
Art's volunteering with youth. And I hear guys my age
they want to carp about what they read on Fox
News or watch here on Newsmax, and I will often
say to them, what are you doing with your sons

(41:57):
and grandsons? And what are you doing with your boys?
You can to get you there when we're talking fauci
and pharma and the information we do consume. We have
the ability now to say to or a doctor like
I've said to doctors. Doctor asked me, hey, have you
got your Have you got your vaccines? I said which one?

Speaker 4 (42:14):
They said, well COVID And.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
I said, how's it work? How's it work? It's a
dead part of the virus and it gets into your body,
helps it build anybody's Oh, I thought it was a
gene sequencing device. He's the second doctor to look me
in the eye and say, well, since you knew that,
why'd you ask? And it's the second doctor. I said,
well since you knew that, why July? So I have this.
I have the ability to now help my family and
friends understand these shots. So when I'm talking about the

(42:38):
so called transing of kids, I localize that because I
know fifty forty or fifty families who've had to flee
states like Oregon, Washington, California because their kids are about
to be medically kidnapped. And so I'm not pushing back
on your assertion that we should be out for us.
It's the body of Christ. As a Christian, totally agree.

(42:58):
I'm just looking at it from info warrior perspective. When
the CDC came along and changed the definition of vaccine
like nine times during the COVID swindle, they also changed
the definition of talk therapy to conversion therapy, but for
only one thing. So I see it as information warfare.
I guess, Jenna, that's that's that's how I see it.

(43:19):
Maybe we see that differently, and I just.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Know I don't. I don't. I don't disagree with you
at all. I just think that information war warfare is
absolutely and totally part of every aspect of our life.
A supermarket is information warfare. You know, the sidewalk is
information warfare. And if you don't believe your social media
feed is information warfare, no matter what it is that

(43:44):
you follow, you're drunk by information warfare, so the cynical
of all of it. And and if you can't be
someone who can take the crusade of information warfare to
the to the very community that you're in and have
heartfelt conversations with people you disagree with, and you're just
complicit in the system itself. That's what I took away.

(44:04):
I need to believe in the humanity of others, no
matter what it is that they are stock believing, because
they're still human, including those who are families doing the
same things that you see as a really problematic Well,
guess what. I see that all over and I need
to in the spirit. I don't believe in organized religion

(44:27):
for the very purpose that I think it generates fear
in people. And I think that Christ was about the
opposite of fear. It was about ultimate love, forgiveness and
the blessing of eternal life and forgiveness, and that's the
spiritual doctrine that exists in all enlightened thought around the planet.

(44:48):
And he was such a teacher and an archangel. That's
my personal belief And when others tell me what to believe,
I'm cynical of it. And yet when tell others tell
me what's in their heart, and others tell me why
they choose to live a certain way because of what
it gives them, I am one hundred percent empathetic to that.

(45:09):
And that's where I think we all need to be
is find the light within each other, because it's much
more powerful than pointing out the darkness.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
And Jesus also says, and follow all I've commanded, and
sometimes we concentrate on the forgiving and loving Jesus, and
I join you in all that, and forget that other part.
I forget it constantly, big huge log force of logs
in my own eye. Just one last question, because I
have a prediction, and again the movie Angel dot com

(45:42):
slash Herman. It's thank you, doctor Fauci. Guys, we've been
begging for this movie for six or seven years and
it's here. Please go stream it immediately. I predict that
your email box has in it notes from people who
now are emailing you saying thank you, thank you for

(46:03):
revealing this, thank you for telling the story. I can't
speak publicly, but here's some information. Here's some things I know,
like you had Robert Redfield in your movie. I'm torn
on him. He tried to tell some truth, but his
book out right Now effectively says I wasn't allowed to
tell you these things. I beg to differ. I think
Robert Redfield's going to be okay with money. I think

(46:23):
you could have told us. Am I right? Is your
email box full of people saying I can't.

Speaker 4 (46:28):
Disclose, I can't speak publicly.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
I'm using proton Thank you for being brave. Did that happen?

Speaker 3 (46:35):
It did? And I think that it did. And it's
very rewarding to have those messages, and I have them
all over my inbox on every platform that I'm on. Yeah,
And i'd also say that Robert Redfield I believe to
be an honest man. And he's also a Christian to
your point, and he is serious about that. And he

(46:56):
even had trouble saying bad things about Anthony Fasci because
of his faith, and he didn't believe it was right
to say bad things about anyone. So I think that
ultimately writing a book is like making a film. There's
going to be some flaws in it. I believe that
where we are now is so many things have happened

(47:17):
since the movie was wrapped up and we're now being asked,
can you make another one? Can we follow the justice?
Please do? So, what I would do to invite your
listeners is contact you if you want to support a
sequel to this which follows all the information that has
come out. Todd, We'd love to collaborate with you and

(47:38):
your listenership on making that happen. And that's something that
you asked me in the beginning, Hey, what's going to
happen here? Are you making another one? And the answer
is I'm considering it. So if those who want to
support it make yourselves known, there's a lot of information
that the public deserves to know.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Now.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
I love it, Get with me. You can go to
the Todd hermershow dot com or you can go to
and go to Angel dot com Slasherman and join the guild.
Listen Angel listens to this stuff. You vote for more
movies from Jenner on this topic, and Angel will be
knocking at the door to make sure it gets good,
solid distribution. It's been a pleasure talking with you, big
picture faith, hearing a bit of your story about why

(48:18):
you did this. The movie's great. I can't recommend it enough,
and information warfare, powerful stuff. Thank you very much Jenner
for taking the time to be here with us.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
Thank you for having me Todd.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
It was true honor, absolutely my pleasure. This is the
Todd Herman Show. Please go, be well, be strong, be kind,
and do make every effort to walk in the light
of Christ.

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