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Jesus Cannot Bless Christian Nationalism. Jesus DOES Want Christian Governance. Here’s the difference…


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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So Twitter decided to trend Christian nationalism this weekend to
cause it to trend. I think there weren't that many
tweets on it. Maybe it's just because I engage with
that topic. I find it an interesting topic. It's also
a topic that's very clearly being used in an attempt
to divide Christians, in an attempt to scare further scare people

(00:22):
who suffer from Trump arrangement syndrome. And I'm here to
tell you there are people who think that President Trump
is in the business as installing full on theocracy of
Christian nationalism and literally building camps in which he intends
to store what some people would call the gays. Truly,

(00:43):
people believe this. So let's set forth a thesis. Jesus
Christ cannot bless Christian nationalism. Jesus does want national governance.
But there's a video, and I'm not going to talk
about the group that made the video. I'm just going
to show the video. Play it if you're listening to
the audio version the videos in the No, it's not

(01:04):
there's no link in the show notes. I don't want
to link to this, but here reg here of.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Mass immigration eroding our Christian values.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Join the Christian Nationalist Party.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Today we are the resistance, fighting back, protect our nation,
our faith, our future.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
You'll notice in the video that all the antagonists are
people who are black and brown, and all the protagonists
are white. You'll notice that the Christians are armed, and
that Jesus is a souldier. You'll notice all that I
don't know that I believe this is organic. I don't
know that I believe these people really want Christian nationalism.

(01:43):
I don't know that I don't necessarily believe that this
is a siap. It seems like a siop to me,
but the topic's not because there are people talking about it.
So the thesis Jesus Christ cannot bless Christian nationalism, but
Jesus does want Christian governance. We'll talk about this with
the help of God.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
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Speaker 1 (02:20):
Todd Herman. Today is the day the Lord has made,
and these are the times to which God has decided
we shall live. Jesus Christ cannot bless Christian nationalism for
a number of reasons. And let's start with one, one
example or one statement as to why why would he

(02:41):
take a demotion? Why would Jesus say, yeah, I'll be demoted.
He already did that. He went from being part of
the triune godheads, and he still is, always was, always existed,
always has existed, always will exist, the Alpha in the Omega.
Through him, all things were made for him, all things
were made. And so for a time in his life

(03:03):
thirty years or so, he sacrificed part of his deed,
and he become fully human and fully fully God, and
he took on the form of a little tiny baby.
And if you know what he went through and what
he did, and this ended for three days on the cross,
and then of course he rose again. But in that
period of time he experienced human suffering, human temptation. He

(03:25):
walked with us, he saw our suffering. He's the only
one who did it flawlessly. He fulfilled the law, he
was sinless, all the things we can't do. And in
doing that, of course, then he conquered death and gave
us this free gift of redemption that we can choose
to accept or decline. But this was a voluntary demotion,

(03:46):
I'll do it. I'll go after them, I'll go get them,
I'll bring them back. I'll do what I can to
get the lost sheep if they'll accept me. So he
had already had a temporary demotion, why would he do
it again to be what president of the United States?
Why that's That's like someone who you know owns one

(04:06):
hundred and forty grocery stores in this country taken a
night job at seven eleven, you know. And there's nothing
wrong with night job at seven eleven. If that's where
you're at in your career, your job, you need to work,
there's nothing wrong with that. But why would someone who's
the CEO of one hundred and forty chain grocery store
give that all up and say, yeah, I'm gonna go
take the night shift at a seven eleven. God is,

(04:28):
Jesus is the lord of the universe, His kingdom is
not of this earth. Why would he possibly say yeah,
you know I I Secondly, Jesus never forces and the
concept of Christian nationalism is we become a Christian nation,
and that theocracy then forces people to either convert or

(04:48):
be locked out of society. Jesus didn't do that. He
didn't lock people out of society. We are in this world,
not of it. Even when he was being handled horribly
by the Romans, he allowed it. He didn't need to
allow it. He could have stopped it with he could

(05:09):
use one angel. He didn't need a legion of angel.
One angel could have stopped it. He didn't. He allowed
them to care out their plan because it was his plan.
Now he wants God the governance. Well, how do I know?
Because he wants people to convert to following him and

(05:31):
he wants them to be in jobs, and those jobs
include being in government. So he wants a Christian government,
just not Christian nationalism. Is that threading the needle. It's
not Christian nationalism is a governance. That is a theocracy.
Jesus never installed a theocracy again, it would be a

(05:53):
step down. He would be diminishing himself. But they just
so I had to trend this over the weekend, and
I think it's an attempt to divide. If you watch
that video, I think it's clear that it's an attempt
to divide. And there's a whole bunch of people who
been talking about this over the weekend because they were
told to talk about it. So we're going to cover
it and hopefully from a godly perspective, and we'll get

(06:16):
into this in a second. Finally got the house sitter available.
We're headed back down to renew Healthcare December twelfth to
the seventeenth, And in fact, an email just went out
over this weekend to the people who attended our free
live webinar and hopeing to see a bunch of people
down there. I'm trying to get Zach to come if
that timing works. And we got our house sitter together,

(06:38):
and it's nice to be able to give one of
my former vet friends a place to live for a
little while while we're down there. And going down is
in this case, I don't even think I'm going to
get anything treated. I might, but I'm going to be
down there with a lot of people who are getting treatment.
I know that there's a gentleman who went down and
got the use of his hands restored. The stem cells
destroyed the inflammation first of all in his hands so
he could use them again. And now you know, about

(07:00):
the three month point, they'll begin be rebuilding tissue and
they'll begin rebuilding tendon. I know that there's a doctor
who is suffering ed he had prostate cancer. I believe
he's going to be down there for this. He tried
all the other approaches, and the stem cells in his
case go in rebuild that portion of his body that's
not work a muscle, tenn et cetera. So it will

(07:22):
work and he can once again have sexual re union
with his wife. I know there's people going down who
have some of the neurological owners because on our phone call,
on our webinar, there was a lady who had TBI
traumatic brain injury and again in that case, destroying the
inflammation and the stem cells go to work then and rebuild.
That's what they do, world class stem cells. The process

(07:43):
is illegal in the United States. Donor stem cells are illegal.
Culturing stem cells don't happen here. They don't do that.
So they can reject ninety percent of the stem cells
that they receive and only use the best ten percent.
If you want to go down and meet us there,
love to have dinner with you, hangouts, go to church,
hit the beach. It's renewed youe dot healthcare. Renew dot Healthcare.
Please tell me you are part of the Todd Hermannshew family.

(08:04):
It's r E and U E dot healthcare. So this
is a church pastor of it's a so called Christian church,
and he has they're going to create an alternative super Bowl.
He says this is a bad thing. So turning point,
USA is creating an alternative super Bowl halftime because Bad
Bunny hates America. Septy lives in America. Uh he hates Well,

(08:29):
he lives in an American island.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
He he hates America, scept he takes money out of America.
He hates America. Septy used to live in Hollywood.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
He lives in Puerto Rico, which is in American territory,
and Ice operates there. Scept he pretends he won't perform
here any longer because he's afraid Ice is going to
go scoop up his fans. Sept they can do that
down there as well. He says, we've got three months
to learn Spanish if we want to watch his halftime show,
where he might dress as a woman, because he's a
dude who likes to do that. But from the perspective

(09:01):
of people who are afraid of white Christian nationalism, because
you notice that Christian nationalism is always white, even though
black people are predominantly Christian, even though Hispanic people are
predominantly Christian. You notice how they always make it white.
And Jesus Christ's the body of Christ is not a
racial body. Jesus won't have it. There are no races

(09:23):
in the body of Christ, not as he sees it.
Notice all that. Notice the hand trick. So let's let
the pastor explain is a well thought out position here.

Speaker 5 (09:30):
There's a TikTok going around of how there's going to
be a alternative super Bowl show for Christians.

Speaker 6 (09:37):
How all these evangelical white.

Speaker 5 (09:41):
Bands are going to get together, the singer songwriters and
they're going to perform an alternate super Bowl halftime partner. Well,
I'm to be honest. I'm a Christian, I'm a pastor.
I'd rather watch Bad Bunny. Let us just have Bad Bunny.
Let us have a high quality super Bowl show. Bad
Bunny's gonna be awesome. I don't want that.

Speaker 6 (10:03):
You might think Christian nationalism.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
That's not me.

Speaker 6 (10:07):
But before you scroll, let's pause for a moment.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Okay, let's do let's pause because he's gonna explain it.
So this is a Christian pastor who wants a guy
who glorifies the sexual and chemical mutilation of children's bodies.
By him pretending to be a woman who glorifies sexuality
outside of biblical norms, pardon me out of biblical rules.

(10:31):
He is pushing an entertainer who pushes sex that God
cannot bless. He glorifies an entertainer who hates the country
in which this pastor lives. He hates law enforcement. This
pastor is now going to tell us about Christian nationalism
in three two one.

Speaker 6 (10:51):
This Christian nationalism isn't always a flag waving movement somewhere
out there. Sometimes it's a quiet shift that happens in here.
So he might be falling into Christian nationalism. If you
start believing God favors your country over other people, you
confuse enough political power with spiritual faithfulness. Fair enough, you

(11:13):
assume following Jesus and following a political party should look
the same.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Fair enough, So what about bad Bunny? What are you?

Speaker 2 (11:22):
So?

Speaker 1 (11:22):
People will go so far the other way? And there's
a temptation among evangelical pastors to do this. I think
that there are pastors JD. Greer I think does this.
And if you don't know JD. Greer, is you can
research him. He's read a lot of great books and
God worked through him to grow a big church, and
God wants the churches to be bigger. But JD. Grier

(11:45):
does everything he can to appeal to liberalism using pronouns,
defending the use of pronouns, pretending that Jesus Christ went
to the Cross as a group project between the political
left and the political right. Because in the Southern Baptist Convention,
and jad Gur was once the president of that, he
screwed that up really badly. There's a lot of conservatives,
so they kind of bend over as hard as they
can to appear to be a centrist. But notice they're

(12:07):
not going to go criticize the left. Jadie Grew recently
said that churches should stop speaking the language of Dei,
but not stop practicing it. Okay, And in this case,
this pastor just told us he wants a sexually perverse
entertainer who hates law enforcement, wants to see law enforcement
in our country harmed, wants them to be docked and attacked. Lies,

(12:33):
pretending that ICE doesn't operate in Puerto Rico. Lies, pretending
he's not going to tour here because he's afraid ICE
will come and get his fans here, but they can't
do it in Puerto Rico. He's a guy who is clearly,
in my judgment, prideful. Hey, you have three months to
learn to speak Spanish, feld and watch my show. In
the halftime, he's coming out hating the guest country. Are

(12:56):
we as Christians when we go to other countries? For instance,
I just mentioned I'm going to be going back to
Mexico coming up with the middle of December. Do you
think I should fly to Mexico with mega hats on?
Do you think I should fly there with an American
flag in my chest. There's people who do that. I
don't because as a Christian, we're taught to be humble.
I want to respect their home. I do everything I

(13:18):
can to go down at least able to have some
form of conversational Spanish with people. A because it's fun
and B because it's their land, it's their country. I
should have enough respect to be able to at least
engage in simple conversations and requests and compliments and questions
and answers. Right, so, this pastor seems to be leaning

(13:40):
so far to the other side just give us bad
but doesn't even know who Bad Bundy is. I didn't
until I went figured out who was because he got
the Super Bowl halftime show. Now, as you right, sometimes
Christian nationalism can begin in the heart. But let's not
call it that because what he's really talking about is
an idol. Usian nationalism is a keyword. It's a way

(14:02):
to get your topics to trend on Twitter. He knows
that it's a way to get it to trend on YouTube.
He knows that what he's talking about is people who
make an idol out of politics. He's talking about people
who allow their political party to come between them and God,
and this happens. There are people who make idols out

(14:23):
of other countries. I think there are people, and God
bless the peace process, God blessed President Trump and getting
to what I think is a temporary respite in the
kinetic war between Israel and hamas the kinetic war, but
as this pastor points out, the spiritual war still continues,
and there are people who've made an idol out of
the government of Israel. God has a very special relationship

(14:45):
with the Jewish people, and you better believe that the
God of the universe is looking at the government of
Israel going, Wait, your pro LGB so called t wait,
your pro abortion wait, hold on, you're going to force
people to take these injections, You're not being godly. Then
there's the fact that Jewish people can't can't go to
heaven without accepting the Lord Jesus christis their saviors. Same

(15:08):
with Muslims and atheists. But some people have made an
idol out of the country of Israel so much so
that they can't even critique the country in fear that
they would harm their idol type view of the country.
And to be clear, half of israelis question their own government.
It doesn't mean that you don't have a profound love
for the Jewish people. Likewise, here you can have a

(15:31):
profound love for your government, your constitution as it's designed,
and also recognize that it pales in comparison to the
New Heaven and the New Earth. That this is a
place we live, it's not a place that where citizens.
If we've accepted Jesus, I hope that makes sense. So
one of the things you can do when you're looking
at Christian nationalism is are we even at risk at this?
Because I've made my case as to why Jesus can't

(15:52):
bless it? So are we even at risk for such
a thing happening. Let's look at Dearborn, Michigan. A YouTuber
named David Woods decided to make a trip to Dearborn,
and he was curious what would happen if he went
to Dearborn, Michigan. And he decided to go out and
hand out Christian literature in the Muslim part of town,

(16:15):
because in Dearborn there is a Muslim part of town.

Speaker 7 (16:18):
I told the entire world about this fifteen sixteen years ago.
What we were exposing was that they didn't want Christians
evangelizing Muslims or handing out tracks or anything. Right, but
they can't it couldn't just make a rule saying Christians
aren't allowed to distribute materials. So they just they just
made a rule and they said no one's allowed to
hand out materials, but then they only enforced it on Christians.

Speaker 8 (16:38):
All right, David Wood, with my friends Paul and Antonio here,
we're not actually going to go into the festival right
now because we know automatically if they're going.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
To lock us up no matter what we do, they
lie about us.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
It's as the way of life here and dearborn, if
you're a Christian.

Speaker 8 (16:51):
So we wrote a case of copies of the Gospel
of John and English and Arabic. We try standing outside
of the festival and handing some of them out. I
suspect they're going to stop us even then, but we'll see.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
We hope that there's no problems. So those guys could
look uslom, I guess right, and a copy of John
and look at that. Here comes a police officer too.
Three four one two three four, three minutes, five six seven, eight, whoa, whoa, whoa?

(17:26):
Eight cops. Oh now, there's nine cops.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
Have to have you turn off the camera.

Speaker 9 (17:36):
Okay, okay, you're gonna have along with me, okay, okay
to my Nami.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
The camera so.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Uh yeah, okay, I'll turn it out.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
I'll turn it out. You're gonna have to come out.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
So at this point my camera was confiscated. I hadn't
distributed or anything. I was simply recording a public street. I
know that getting arrested is a scary thing. This happened
to me twice when I was a kid. Your response
should have been, am I being detained? Do you have
probable cause that I'm a committing a crime. Filming in

(18:09):
a public setting is constitutionally allowed. This has been proven
time again in a court. I'm not putting the camera
down and then let the officer use force and record it.
I've decided to use force. You're gonna have a lawsuit
and maybe one of the conservative Christian legal defense funds

(18:29):
like America First Freedom America First Legal would get under
side and help with this. So are we in danger
of Christian nationalism? Because I don't know about you. I've
been in airports where I've had Seventh Day avatis? Who
are the people go through the airports? Used to hry Christians?
Used to do that San Francisco. Yeah, I've had people

(18:50):
knock on my door with what they would contend to
be different sects of Christianity. I don't think they're Christian,
but they've knocked on my door. I've had Muslim texts
handed to me in New York. Hey, if you read
the crime. So are we truly at risk at Christian nationalism?
Are we truly at risk of being taken the other way?

(19:12):
Who's on a conquest? Here? Is it Christians on a conquest?
Or is it Muslims on a conquest? And what are
some of the other signs of Christian nationalism. This happened
again this weekend that vivid Ramaswami, who's a guy for
whom I don't care. I think he's a con artist,
and we can talk about that. But vivid Ramaswami got
into a discussion with some young people around the topic

(19:35):
of his faith versus Christianity. And this is interesting because
these young men seem to think we need a litanus
test for who can get into office. Does Jesus want that?
It's an interesting thought. Does Jesus want a litmus test
to make sure you have to be a Christian before
you go into office? Again, I don't think it's Jesus's priority.

(19:57):
I think Jesus could say that sounds a lot like
an activity of sea to me, how are you doing
it building my kingdom? My friend John is doing everything
he can in this life to prepare for the next life,
because in all likelihoods, John is going into the New
Heaven and the New Earth. Well, he's going to be right,
He's going to Jesus and eventually they do have it

(20:17):
in the New Earth. In all likelihood, he's been fighting
cancer for a very long time. He has decided that
in this last year to year and a half maybe
maybe two years maybe now, but probably more likely a year,
he's going to just concentrate on family time and getting
his wife ready to take over the soap company. Alan
Soaps so so often companies with great origin stories turn

(20:40):
out to have great products, and the origin story of
Allan's is that John wanted a place for his son
Alan to be able to work because the world doesn't
value Alan. I mean his school chums do his friends.
He went to his first dance this year, which was
cool because he could dance. He's fourteen, He's been through
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(21:00):
And yet he's nonverbal. So he invents his soap using
an iPad type device to tell his family what he
wants them to smell, like the sense and so this
is the soap company. It came about this way. He
and his brothers also impacted by autism, so this affected
the origin story. This way. John wants the company to
belong lasting his kid's name is on this. He needed

(21:21):
the soap to be absolutely high quality, so he looked
at a bunch of ways to get this done. He
rejected private labeling because the soap is junk, it comes
from China, it might be made with slave labor, It's
got tons of chemicals in it. He finally met a
family of people who make soap and they have for one, two,
three generations. He told them his goal, what he wanted
to do with the soap company. They said, we're in

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So Jesus cannot bless Christian nationalism. Jesus wants Christian governance.
He wants us to vote Christian people into office. He
wants Christian people who serve him, who have confessed him

(22:25):
with their mouths, who agree to be sanctified that is
changed and made holy by Jesus, who are on mission
with him. He wants us in governance, he wants us
working in bakeries. He wants us driving buses, he wants
us in the military. But he wants us to treat
life as a mission, knowing that our job is to
build the Kingdom of Heaven. So within governments build the
Kingdom of Heaven. What does that mean. It means doing

(22:48):
for the least of these. It means being humble. It
means doing your job as if you're working for Jesus
Christ himself. It means that if you're in a position
to vote, you will not vote for anything that violates
the word of God. Taxes, sadly don't. Taxes that support
abortion do. Taxes that support let's say, killing people with

(23:10):
the gene sequencing device does those taxes?

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Do?

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Taxes that pretend that children are born in the wrong
body do because God made them in his image. So
there are taxes and their laws for which you cannot vote.
Enforcing immigration law it does not violate the word of God.
Sojournals are to respect our laws, and the governments respect
our laws. So Christian nationalism cannot be blessed by Jesus

(23:38):
if it is a theocracy that's forcing people to convert,
if it's saying that we have to read the Bible
every morning. And Jesus Christ himself does not say you
have to read the Bible every morning. He says, apart
from me, you can do nothing that matters. He says, basically,
tattoo the Word of God on your eyelids, teach it
to your kids, teach it to him daily. We're told

(24:01):
throughout the New Testament our power comes from being in
the Word. But Jesus didn't say you have to read
it this many times per day. He simply pointed out
the consequence. If you don't, you're divorced from the vine.
So vivid Rameswami is not Christian. I think he does
everything he can to act Christian in terms of I

(24:21):
should say performative acting. I don't think he is a
I think his record in business and his pharma companies
and his shape shifting and is making money from the
lockdowns and him being pro masked and pro pharma, and
then suddenly turning on a dime, and all of a
sudden he's against big pharma. He's against the masks. He
pretends he was against the lockdowns for a number of reasons.

(24:44):
I think Vivic Rameaswami is a carn artist. But he
had the occasion to talk to some young people about
his faith and they challenge him. And to me, there's
a lot to talk about in this clip.

Speaker 9 (24:55):
Hi, thank you profess to be a conservative. Correct.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
First of all, I would now, I don't know the
camera angle, maybe he has to look up, but if
you're looking at the video of this, I would suggest
that anyone who's in a position like this not undertake
that particular facial position because it's both defensive looking and arrogance,
and it is not friendly. Lean into the questioner, take
the mic down, set it down, lean into the young person.
And yet that's how he's standing. I'm a proud conservative.

Speaker 9 (25:21):
If you are an Indian, a Hindu, coming from a
different culture, different religion than those who founded this country,
those who grew this country, built this country, made this
country the beautiful thing that it is today, what are
you conserving? You are bringing change. I'll be one hundred
percent honest with you. Christianity is the one truth. Jesus
Christ is God, and there is no other God. He

(25:42):
is part of the Holy Trinity, and any other God
is a demon and it's false. How can you represent
the constituents of Ohio who're sixty four percent Christian if
you are not a part.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Of that faith.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
Like I said, I'm not here to justify my faith.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
To you anymore than you are to me.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
But what I do share is the value set this
country was founded on. And I think that it's really
important that we not reinvent the founding of this country
and what it was actually all about. The founding fathers,
they had an opportunity to write a religious code. Just
like the most other nations in human history, I founded
either on a monarch or a particular faith or a

(26:17):
particular lineage. That's where most nations in human history are
found in not America. We are the only country in
the human history where there is a set of civic
ideals that brought together a divided, polyglot group of people
two hundred and fifty years ago where freedom of conscience
was a core belief set.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Of our founding fathers.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
Oliver Thomas Jefferson.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
You know who he is?

Speaker 3 (26:41):
What you know what document he signed, The Declaration of independency. Yeah,
and what was his belief system he was at He
was a deist. Our third president, the man who signed
this nation into existence, was a deist. Do you know
Benjamin Franklin is yes, you know what his belief system was.

Speaker 9 (26:54):
He was a Quaker.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
Yes, he was also a deist, similar to similar to
Thomas Jefferson. So what I think I think that we
often do is we talk about US history. I have
a better suggestion. It's actually considered reading US history. Consider
studying US history. Learn the founding of our country. And
that's what made our founders, I believe, the most extraordinary
people known to the history of man.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
We would do.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
Well to actually respect their legacy rather than to reinvent
some sort of imitative version of every other nation in
human history that's not us.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
It's really good answer that Vivic precise provides after he
gets over the arrogant Chin position. Was Thomas Jefferson truly
a deist? That's super debatable, as is the whole Jefferson
Bible thing. The Jefferson Bible thing contends that Jefferson went
through and cut out any of the miraculous and just

(27:44):
left over any of the marckless things Jesus did. This
is one of the miss about the Jefferson Bible. Now
he went through and questioned those things and called those
things out, but cut them out as if it never happens.
That's that's not true. And Thomas Jefferson was a man
who was really really punished by his intellect. What it
means by that is he tried to think his way

(28:04):
to God Almighty. And I think Ben Franklin was equally
equally yoked with intelligence trying to think his way to
God Almighty. And what did they actually set up? Was
it adverse to Christianity? Nope, it was informed by it.
One of the unique aspects of the Christian faith is
that it does not create a government in One of

(28:29):
the knocks on the Jewish faith is Zionism a government
of theocratic nature. One of the knocks on in Islam,
and it is a knock, is that Islam is a
political structure. It is a military structure built around of faith.
But the faith part cannot be removed from the governor's part.

(28:51):
Our founders, largely Christian, recognize that God did not force
Jesus did not create a political rulership. He could have
done that Jesus could have gone to the Pharisees and
the Sadusseas and Saturday bed down and said, look, I've
got an army of five thousand. If I choose to
in the next year, it's going to be twenty five thousand.

(29:12):
I've got one Zelot on my team. I can go
get other zelots. I can have a fighting army anytime
I want to. I can go unite the tribes. All
twelve tribes of Israel will follow me. I can come
and have a huge arm resistance and yeah, maybe you'll
put it down, but it's going to cost you a
lot of troops, a lot of time, a lot of money.
You have to bring the Romans to your side. And
I can tople some of the Phariseical power, So why

(29:33):
don't we power share? It could have gone to Rome.
He could have gone to Rome and said, hey, you
know what, we're a fourth branch. We need to be
equal to the Pharisees and the Sadussees and the other branch.
I figured we need this equal power sharing. He could
have done that, and he didn't. So when that young
man is saying, what do you conserve, vivid Ramaswami is

(29:54):
capable so much as I agree that he's willing to
do that, because I don't trust him at all. He's
capable of preserving our constitution, our Bill of Rights, he's
capable of keeping a pledge to do that. He can't
do it under God because he doesn't believe in God.
They can't help people's souls because he follows a false God.

(30:18):
But we can have partnerships with people of different faiths
in order to get an end goal in our country.
For instance, Muslims are not big fans of people going
out and pushing gender ideology and kids. They're not fans,
and in fact, Muslims as a whole are violent against
people like that. Muslims is a whole globally, Muslims is

(30:41):
a whole globally, are violence against people who are saying
sex attracted globally. I'm speaking because there's a huge radicalization
problem in Islam. It is globally pretty radical. But on
the topic of white nationalism, there was a more i guess,
nuanced discussion of this happened on a podcast just in
give any of the apt out of the and campaign

(31:03):
talked about Christian nationalism, and it's a little bit more
let's say nuance. We'll get to that in a second.
We'll also talk about Christian nationalism and porn So porn
hub has found it self banned and yet another state.
Is this Christian nationalism to ban kids from watching pornography

(31:24):
or ban the pornographic website pornhub. I guess it's nuanced.
But are Christians only one who would do that because
Islam does that as well? Or would so we get
into both of these things in just a second. Porn
Hub is a huge business. It's billions and billions and
billions of dollars, and it's now been purchased by a
Canadian company that has a whole bunch of websites like this.

(31:46):
And guess what they are. They're company that specializes in
keeping people's minds busy. And they're losing some states here.
We'll talk about that. But porn hub knows how to
defend themselves. Do you know how to defend your business?
You've probably done everything you can if you've been in
the business five, ten, fifteen years. You might have a
regular lawyer. You probably have a regular tax accountant you

(32:07):
work with, maybe even a tax lawyer. All those people
probably do a good job for you, but they'd probably
forget the origin of your company, the founding documents of
your company that we're talking about, the founding documents of
the nation. If your founding documents didn't start with you
as a full fledged corporate entity, if it has anything

(32:28):
to do with your personal credit, you probably do not
have the corporate veil. The corporate veil is what protects
you from losing your home or your retirement accounts to
a lawsuit against your business. The corporate veil does that.
It protects you from a lawsuit. Let's say that's an

(32:48):
employee you had to fire, it's upset and sues you.
Protects your personal assets. If you don't have that corporate veil,
you have no protection. So let's say that you took
a loan out from your bank for your business. If
your bank had anything on that founding document to do
with your personal account, they can go after your home

(33:09):
and your retirement account and your bank wants it that way.
So you should find out right now if you even
have the corporate veil. And I'm going to let you
do this in a free, no obligation consultation with my
friends at Bisible. Here's their website. Go over to gobisible
dot com. That's with a Z go bisible dot com.

(33:30):
They will tell you if you have the corporate veil.
If you do not, they will fix it for you
in seven easy steps. It's that quick. And yeah, they'll
charge you for the fixing part, not the telling part,
and the money that you're pay to get this delivered.
It is a no brainer. Website is go bisible dot com.
So this is a bit more nuanced. It's a conversation

(33:50):
that Justin Gibbey and some of his friends had from
the and campaign talking about Christian nationalism from the perspective
of some black people, because of course Christian nationalism always white.
Christian nationalism, right.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
One of the biggest problems, and this is going back
to my critique of the right, one of the biggest
problems with Christian nationalism is it binds Christianity with America
as if in their hand at hand. So one thing
that does historically is now, if America is really God's
promised land, which is almost you know the interpretation that
you get, then I can't really accept the negative things

(34:27):
that America has done. So these are the people that
will not accept negative stuff about American history.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Objective facts.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
They'll get mad at objective facts about slavery, you know,
Jim Crow and all that, because they can't their idol
can't live in the same location as the truth. Wow,
the light and their idol can't list. So they have
to throw out. If you wonder why somebody don't like
to talk about history and just denies it because their idol.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Can't live there.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
So that's right.

Speaker 4 (34:54):
That's one of the main the main problems with it
is it makes that connection. And then once you make
this God's country, also when we go to war, we're
in the right. So you can justify anything America does
because we have that connection. And you know He brought
us here and now we're just doing kind of his work. Well,

(35:15):
we can see how that gets us into trouble. I
mean not even Israel. Everything they did was right in
the Bible. Everything they did Gods, Oh, this is perfect.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
You're right.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
No, this is not how it works. If you turn
your brain off and your former Christian nationalism is to
sprinkle Christian juice on something or Jesus juice on something,
and you turn your brain off, you could do that.
If you turn your brain off and say we're the
new Promised Land and Jesus is the King of America,
and therefore all things America does is goods. Yeah, you

(35:44):
could have that structure, but are we talking about Christian
brain dedism or we're talking about Christian nationalism. So when
people talk about Christian nationalism from this perspective, He's right.
Sometimes people will wed the faith and they're politics. Christians
are Republican, and it's far more disturbing when people say

(36:08):
I'm a Republican first, and this happens. I've met people
who are moving over to here, to Idaho, because that
happened a lot during the lockdowns. People realize that they
were living in a communist country, not a state within
the United States. And I might meet them somewhere. Say
I give a talk somewhere, a speech, and after words,
I meet with people. And it's not uncommon for me
to have people say to me, we're looking for a

(36:30):
good conservative church, and I will say, you mean biblical conservative. Well, no, no,
we want to make sure that the people who go
there are you know, conservative Republicans. Oh okay, are you
concerned about them being biblical conservative? Oh yeah, no, I
mean obviously we wanted to be a biblical church, but
we just want to make sure the people who go
there are conservative. Okay, what if it's the most biblical

(36:53):
church in the area, that's doing the most kingdom building,
making the most disciples of Christ, serving the most meals
to the needy, taking the most kids to camp, bringing
the most people to the faith, funding the most Christian

(37:16):
hospitals so people who can't afford it get care, taking
mission trips around the world to take the face of
Christ to people who've never heard of him. And it's
not a political church. They talk about abortion as a sin,
fornication is a sin, adulter is a sin, same sex

(37:39):
activity as a sin. They talk about the lives of transgenderism.
They don't shy away from the world calls social issues.
But they don't endorse candidates, they don't have candidate forums,
they don't hand out copies of the Constitution on Constitution Day.
But they're the most biblical church with the most programs

(38:01):
for everybody of every age, the most evangelical in terms
of evangelizing Christ, bringing people in. Would you go there?
And a lot of times the answer is a sad stare, like, well,
I mean, but they're conservative right now, that's a problem

(38:25):
that's idle making, because there are in North Idaho. There
are a ton of conservative groups you can join. There's
everything from militias full on where you can go get
arms training and defensive training in one day. If you
need to defend yourself against the communists China model authorit chinism,
there's that. There are volunteer groups that get together to

(38:49):
have volunteer food storage, volunteer medical responses, voluntary responses to
emd ARE attacks. There are groups here that will voluntarily
step up to defend you against loss from the left.
There are barter groups. There are groups where you can
buy part of a commune and live is a conservative
Christian commune member where you share eggs and beef and jobs.

(39:13):
That's all available. You can go join any number of
political parties here and voting groups and support groups and
groups that are fighting to keep a North Idaho conservative.
But you need your church to be that too. Okay,
everybody's different, But I hope your church has Jesus first.

(39:35):
But this guy's view that there are people sprinkling Jesus
juice on America and saying, well, everything America does is
right because Jesus likes us. They're not Christian. You cannot
be Christian and say everything our nation does is right
because we're the new Promised Land. Because we know we're
all falling people. We all know that we fall short
of the glory of God. So you cannot be a
Christian and believe everything He does you do is right.

(39:57):
You cannot be a Christian and believe everything your nation
does is right. It's impossible. Because Jesus himself said to
a guy who came and said, good, Rabbi, Good Rabbi,
he said, wait, wait, wait, why are you calling me good?
No one is good except our father, my father in heaven.
Why are you calling me good? Remember that? So let's
talk more about Christian nationalism this. We'll get to porn

(40:20):
hub and is this a Christian nationalist's action to ban
them in some of the states. And then we'll close
this out with a guy who is a He's not
necessarily a black nationalist, but he is a full on
race hustling reverends who I think wants to push the
race war. We'll talk about that. We're headed into the
Christmas season, and I know it's very very early, it's October,

(40:41):
it's not even the thirty first, but every year. This
happens every single stinking year. This happens as people get
to the last minute and they say, oh my gosh,
I've got a votish friends who are veterans, and what
am I going to get them? Well, I don't know
your friends. I know this. I have yet to meet
a vet who doesn't love bone Frog coffee. I'll tell
you kind of a funny story because it was scary

(41:01):
to me. I got to go down to the ranch
where CrossFit was founded, and I went down for Greg
Glassman's events, the Broken Science Institute, and I'm there. I
don't know a soul. I'm one dude walking in and
the only person to know there is Greg and I've
talked via email to his media person and partner in this, Emily,

(41:23):
never met her. I don't know a soul there. And
I show up and I'm isolated, all alone. But I
was wearing a bone Frog coffee hat. This is back
when I had a beard and all this and quite
a long time ago. And so I step up and
the guy who helped Greg get CrossFit started one of them,
this guy named Dave Castro, and Dave was the Navy seal.

(41:45):
So I'm talking to Dave and ton of man, it's
a thrilled to be at the ranch. And hey, CrossFit
changed my life and made me a healthier person. And
he kept looking at my hat, and he finally stopped
me and goes, hey, hey your hat. I go, yeah,
he goes guy who founded that company's seal. I go, yes, yes,

(42:07):
he better be. He better be. I said. His name
is Tim Krukshank. He was in three deployments. He was emetic,
and he was also buds instructor Crookshank. And Dave looked
at me and he goes, I'll check on that better be.

(42:29):
Why was he doing that because I was wearing a
hat that had the insignia, the bone frog insignia. It
meant fallen Seal. That's how seriously they take this. Every year.
People wait until the last minute. So let me make
this suggestion to you. You get friends who are vets,
get them coffee from a company that respects the seal
name so much that this bone Frog is named after it.

(42:52):
Every bag says God Country Team on it. Tim respects
what goes in the bag, so he recruited a coffee
legend named Dave Sewer. Dave, to my knowledge, never served,
but he helps mentor the team he creates many of
the roads. Also, check out the merch because if you've
got friends who are who are seals, retired or otherwise,
check out the merch because it's very, very high qualities.

(43:13):
Bonefrog Coffee dot Com slash Todd on the coffee, you
get ten percent off your first purchase when you use
promo code tod at. Checkout Bonefrog Coffee dot com slash todd.
On subscription coffee, You'll earn fifteen percent discount for life
when you use promo code tod at. Checkout this Bonefrog
Coffee dot Com slash todd fifteen percent off. I don't
check with Tim. Maybe we'll get a discounter some sort
of packages in the merch, but great stuff for Christmas

(43:35):
for your veteran friends. So pornhoub has been banned now
in eighteen states. And this is a guy named Ryan
Visconti put this up. I think he's speaking a little
bit snarky. Oopsie. I think we just did a Christian
nationalism someone who's trying to legislate morality. Again, if you
listen to the soft woke, big even talking heads, this

(43:55):
is a problem because we should just be preaching the
gospel and waiting till hearts change to the point that
nobody wants porn any longer. Okay, that's one view. It's
one view that if you are not into Christian nationalism,
you're just going to say, hey, let hearts change, and
so people keep you and porn until God changed their hearts.

(44:16):
That's one view. Is it necessarily Christian nationalism?

Speaker 2 (44:18):
Do this?

Speaker 1 (44:19):
No unit outs. It can be recognition that porn hub
is a sex trafficking website. That porn Hub according to
meteor reports and stop thenew drug dot Com and the
people who run that and their investigations. They've been caught
multiple times selling footage of girls being raped and I
said girls not women multiple times and they didn't take

(44:40):
those down until they got a nasty gram from a lawyer.
They've ensued multiple times for this as understanding. So you
can recognize that. You could recognize that that makes them
something that cannot be allowed to estate because they are
a hub for people who seek to harm children sexually.
You can recognize all of that. Now, the bands on

(45:04):
a First Amendment perspective, Okay, what are you actually filming?
You're filming prostitution, acts of it. You can make an
argument that pornography itself, even if it's so called consenting adults,
it's people getting paid to have sex, which is to
engage in prostitution, is to sell sex they do that.
Is it necessarily Christian nationalism? No, because guess where you
don't get porn of Go try to look at it

(45:25):
in Saudi Arabia, Go try to look at it in Yemen.
Go try to look at it there.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Now.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
In Israel right now, they're pretty pro porn so you
can go look at it there. Is it necessarily Christian nationalism. No,
there's a great effort to always combine Christian nationalism with
white Christian nationalism, even though, as I said at the
beginning of the show, the majority Black people identifies Christian,

(45:53):
the majority of Hispanic people identifies Christian. So this is
a reverend doctor Magruder. He is his full name is
the Reverend doctor David Malcolm Bergruder, executive Pastor of Friendship
West Baptist Church, and here he is speaking the language
of racial friendship.

Speaker 10 (46:12):
The US has the highest maternal mortality rate among wealthy nations,
and black women in this country are three to four
times more likely to die from a pregnancy related cause
than a white woman. And what is striking is that
eighty percent of those deaths are preventable.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
What does that mean. That means that they don't care
about our bodies.

Speaker 10 (46:35):
That means they don't intend for us to live. That
means that they can cut us off at the very beginning.
They don't intend vi our lives to have substance and meaning,
and so they wouldn't want to cover life that they
don't think has any value.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Gosh, if only there were some cross tabs we could
look into, such as the health of black pregnant women
when they walk into a clinic, such as drug use
among young black pregnant women, such as dietary standards in
young black pregnant women. There are, and the cross tabs
aren't encouraging. What the goods, so called good reverend would

(47:13):
have us believe is that eighty percent of doctors are
so racist when a black pregnant woman comes in, they
go give him bad advice. Let the baby die. Is
it black nationalism? Now, it's satanism. In the body of Christ.
There's neither Greek nor Jew servant, nor master, black nor white.

(47:37):
He doesn't address black on black crime sin problem where
black people, young black people in the major cities are
the number one cost of young black people. He doesn't
address the sin of abortion, which has taken millions and
millions of black lives and still does by design. Market
Singer's design was to do away with what she called

(47:58):
the mud people black people made in God's image. We're
all made in godd image, every single one of us.
He loves us all equally. There's nothing we can do
to get him to love us more or less. Jesus
Christ is the king of the entire universe, and he's
already taken one demotion for about thirty to thirty three years.
He is not going to take another, and we shouldn't

(48:20):
ask him to do that. Jesus Christ cannot bless Christian nationalism,
but he can and does bless Christian governance. This is
the Todd Hermanshaw. Please go, be well, be strong, be kind.
If you haven't yet done it, confess with your mouth
that Jesus Christ is your Lord and savior. Ask him
to change you, and I hope that you also get

(48:40):
to go spend time with your beloved families.
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