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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What does it mean to be saved? Well, what does
it mean to be in the process of being saved
versus having been saved? The Bible has three tenses that
we are saved in justifications, that's Romans eight twenty four.
We are being saved through sanctification First Corinthians one point eighteen,
and we will be saved glorification First Corinthians three fifteen.
(00:24):
My friend Dan put some of this together last night
for our life group Bible study. My friend's pastor, Robbie
Walden is with me and he is an expert and
in fact a pastor in deliverance. He's also an expert
in our bodies and the temple and is using his
gifts as an athlete to help people come to Lord
(00:44):
through something.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Called Christ Fit.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
We'll talk about deliverance, what it means to be deliveran
that looks like how you do it, and body as
a temple.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Talk about this with Robbie Walden.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
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Speaker 1 (01:22):
Today is to day the Lord has made, and these
are the times through which God has decided we shall live.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
My friend Robbie waldens with me. We shake hands on set.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
You don't know what he's supposed to do that, but
thank you for coming in, brother, Appreciate.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
You for having again.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah, so let's start with I guess let's start with
the struggle, because there are people who they'll see guys
like you. Okay, So Robbie's he's a combat vet, he's
a ward winning athlete. He did a great had a
great career in music and still publishing records. It's on
the charts, and he's married and everything's perfect. And I
(01:55):
guess last last February, things weren't perfect anymore.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Can you tell my folks what happened? Uh? Yeah, So,
first off.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Again, thank you guys for having me back. And it's
a it's a privilege and honor. As he was saying,
we have a ministry called christ Fit Jim c DA.
The first one was my old Army teammate who's also
a pastor, Billy weatherall out of Older City, Louisiana. And
then we have a second location in Oklahoma with the
Davenport family, and and we're now the third and.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Hey, Idaho.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Yeah here, well technically in Quarterlane or Dalton Gardens really
Dalton Government there. But so we had started that and
we're also I'm a pastor at Heart of the City Church,
licensed pastor with with our church, and and.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
We started christ Fit. We're about at this.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Point five months in probably six yeah, about five months
in six months in something like that. I guess it
was actually like six months now, mind you. It's a
free gym, right, It's a nonprofit, donation based gym where
we share the gospel through exercise and events. Our goals
to unite the church, equip the saints, and reach the loss.
My wife and I were running with our feet just
going as full boar. I get up at three in
(03:03):
the morning, my day starts and I go to bed late.
So we are busy in ministry. We've been living with
the Disciples for four and a half years. Never missed
the meal, never missed a payment. We go into the
new year February twenty ninth, or the third class in
the day is starting seven thirty class and I look
over and there's a text for my wife and she says,
(03:25):
don't call. I'm on the phone with Josie. That's our
oldest daughter, my oldest step daughter. And she says, don't call.
I'm on the phone with Josie.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Cassidy died. Please come home.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
And the people know, Yeah, she's and so she's my
second oldest stepdaughter. Just a wonderful, wonderful girl. And so
I'm just kind of numb. I leave the gym.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
The class just takes it.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
I mean, we didn't have to do anything for the
next like two weeks or so. The class, I mean,
the members just.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Took care of everything. We just literally up and left it.
I run home.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
I'm kind of just I call Pastor Jail, our senior pastor,
and tell him. And Raadine and and and Raadine was
just so wonderful to me and my wife too, and
she just she is so wisdom wise. And I pulled
into the drive normally, I back in the driveway and
I pulled and had first just gun it. My wife's
in her bathrobe sitting standing out there waiting for me.
I got and we just started crying and screaming and
(04:19):
just holding each other and the worst day of my life.
And we go inside. She kind of tells me what's
going on, what happened. The detectives has been trying all
night to get ahold of us, but our ringers were off.
We were in bed. She was in Kawaii on vacation
with her boyfriend. She drowned and she was twenty and
(04:41):
my wife got to FaceTime her literally just before it happened,
and my wife knew it was the last day she
was ever going to talk to her.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
She just knew.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
She knew, and we both have known we were going
to lose a child. I don't know how to say
other than God's prepared us for it. We've both known
it and talked about it. We've believed it, and not
that we wanted to believe that that you're manifest that No, no,
because it was from the Lord. And that week, in fact,
I had I had a dream. I believe it was
three times. I kept and I was in the ocean
(05:08):
and there was sharks and a grizzly bears and I
didn't know what it was, but it was not good,
and it was it was unique.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Because I had this peace about it.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
But I knew it wasn't good, and I woke up
every time. I'm like, babe, something bad's gonna happen. I
don't know what's going on. I told her the dream
and I kept having it. She dies in the in
the she drowned, and not even a year ago. No, uh,
February twenty eighth will technically be a year. We found
out the twenty ninth, the morning of and then all
my wife wanted to do was pray and praise, and
(05:36):
so we put on worship music and we got on
our knees and cried and.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Praised the Lord for hours, probably two hours.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Then Jayoe and Radin come over and minister to us,
and it was wild because my wife wanted she had
a that morning, she was scheduled for a crown on
her to our root Canal, sorry, and she wanted to
still do it now because we're going to be traveling
back to our hometown of Haley, Idah to be with
our oldest Josie and everybody just begin the process that
(06:05):
is when we lose someone, especially a child, And.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
So we go there. Now she's in her chair and
she goes. She asked me to.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Go out of the doctor's office and go call her
dad and tell them what happened. He doesn't answer, So
immediately I start crying out to the Lord.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I'm crying.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
I'm like, upset, I'm not really directing, and I am,
but I'm like, I'm reminding him of a promise, and
God to give me this promise about six seven years
before this, and he gave me a vision and it
was my daughter Casty was Casty. She was behind the
pulpit of our old church, which at this time was
our current church, and she was preaching. And he told
and he told me she was going to come to Christ,
(06:43):
that she was going to be in ministry with us,
because my wife and our own ministry, and at this
point we weren't yet full time actually, but and that
she was going to be in ministry, and that her
real dad was going to come to Christ and many
were going to come to Christ as a work of her.
And so I'm like, Lord, what the heck you gave
me this vision? What about this vision? And you told me,
(07:04):
And let me tell you, I am prophetic, and the
Lord's prophecies, his words, they come to pass. I'm living examples.
Christ fit isn't one of those. If it wasn't for
the prophecy and what God spoke to us to do,
and you know, yeah, so it's real, right and and
so I'm going off and at the same time, my
wife is in the chair unrenounced to me at the moment,
saying the same things. God, what about the promise and
(07:24):
the vision? And he told us both the exact same thing.
He said, yes, but I didn't tell you how it
would be done or how I would do it. Long
story short, two weeks later, her real father, Jason, gives
his life to the Lord. It has been a snowball effect.
And really she is in the ministry with us. She's
now part of our testimony. And I'm preaching from a
(07:46):
point of losing a daughter this whole last year, and
I knew more people have been saved than I can
count right now, including tons of her friends, her boyfriend
also who had given a life to Lord. And this
is the beautiful part for me, because I'm a heavy
evangelist and I've led hundreds of people to Christ, just
even on the streets, right so my wife has only
led one person to Christ all on her own, without
(08:07):
being there with me or me with her in the process.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
And it was our daughter casting God, Praise God.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
So it's a great testimony. And I think you told
me it's sixty people been saved sixty something. Yeah, and
through Christ for it. And I'll have to come for
a workout there one day with Robbie Walden. And it's
from that stance that this battles you've been through as
a combat veteran and someone who's wounded that way and
has served our country lots of spiritual wounds we talked
(08:33):
about last time that you've been through. I want to
transition into discussion about deliverance, and I'll tell you why,
because a lot of my friends are asking about I've
got family members asking about it. I'm thinking about doing it.
I think I might need to be delivered, so I
want to go through that process. I also want to
talk about what you've seen in the faces of people
who are being delivered and we're bringing back over to
(08:55):
Cross to Christ fits. One of the things that Robby
and I shared in common is a just a commitment
to keeping the temple in shape. And both of us
love to work out of nowhere near the athlete that
Robby is. I mean, just take a look at us
and you can see these far far more yoke than
I am, and I get nothing going on compared to Robbie.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
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Speaker 1 (09:16):
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The top of the show. There's a top of the
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Speaker 2 (10:36):
He's the top of the hour.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
So we have the Bible goes through these three tenses
of we've been saved through justification. We're being saved, that's
the process of sanctification.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
We will be saved the process of glorification.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
And so I accept Lord Jesus as my savior Messiah.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I act that way.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I abide, and sometimes abiding is hard, and sanctification hurts sometimes.
But the more I read God's word, the more I
see us being warned about false teachers and about going astray,
and about the heart growing cold. And I believe, and
I know this is very controversial, I believe we can
decide to say, hey, you know what, I'd rather not have.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
The free gift of salvation. I prefer to have.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
The world, so I'm going to pur the soothe of
things of the world, thanks very much. But no, I
don't think people do that consciously. So I've begun thinking
about the way the enemy works on us. My understanding is,
if you look at this from a diligence perspective, we
have all sorts of areas in our body and our soul.
We may have given our business to the Lord. We
(11:41):
may have given our parenting to the Lord, but we
may be holding back on personal relationships or well, I
like to gamble, so I'm not going to give that
to the Lord. And our body is like a series
of It's like a hotel. And my understanding is that
a demon can say, hey, you know what, you just
gave me permission to enter. That room might be a
sexual room, might be a business room, might be family room.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Do I get that right? So that's how I explained deliverance.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
And again, this is one of those topics that is
controversial in the church, and it shouldn't be. Deliverance is
convers Why I think people don't want to believe it
maybe taboo, and it's only in the Western church. Go
to the Eastern cultures. They're doing it everywhere, and in fact,
because they lack things like medical and so forth, they
rely heavily in the spirit. That's why they go into witchcraft.
And because they know witchcraft to be real and it
(12:28):
works in many cases. They will not come to God
unless He shows his power on display in the first place,
what I have found, and I think in this church,
in the Western Church, right or very tangible.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I think we can be very pharaceutical.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
We chase knowledge, right, and it's all this substantial, surface
based knowledge instead of in the spirit.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
We are in the heavenlyes.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
We are at a war, right, he tells us, we
are in a war. I got shot in Iraq Apri seven,
two thousand and four and Samara, right, and he used
this as a metaphor with me one time. He said,
even though I wouldn't have been shot, I came back
with PTSD, night terrors, blown ear drums, you name it,
and the mental stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I get tempted suicide.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
In twenty fourteen, I had so many teammates that have
am have committed suicide, right, because we're being tormented.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
And now someone to say, yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Because you're you weren't a Christiano too, right, because many
believe that a Christian cannot have demonic attachment of any sources.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Right, Well, there's three types.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Of demonization, because it's really demonization. There's possession, oppression, and attachment.
Possession is for a non believer, right and because I
cannot be delivered in the first place unless I am
a believer. But there is oppression and attachment. And we
are in a war. And if we weren't, if we
weren't such a heavy prize to the demonic, then they
(13:44):
would just leave us alone at that point. No, because
there's something they can kill still and destroy while they're here.
They can get our eyes off the cross, the cross,
the cross, the cross, right, yeah, actually, And but the
thing is, I want everything Jesus Christ paid for and
bought on that when he purchased me on the cross,
which means I need to walk out everything the full
(14:06):
Great Commission of Mark sixteen, for example, right, which part
of that is deliverance. Salvation and freedom are two different things.
If I come an adultery in my wife right now today,
Let's say I had an affair, got the woman pregnant.
There are physical and spiritual consequences, period. I think anyone
using common sense would say, well, absolutely right, the woman
(14:28):
gets pregnant. Now my kids, my step children are upset
with me. Let's say, Yvonne does forgive me and she
lets it keep rolling with us, right, but she's got
insecurities on forgiveness, situations, you name it, and all these
things just stockpile and compound, pile, right and cause just
enormous problems. Why because I gave the demonic spiritual authority
over me. I broke God's commands. They work off of legalism. Wait, wait,
(14:52):
the demons work off of lib absolutely. So there they see.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
This covenant that we've been given the gift of forgiveness redemption.
And they see this covenants and they're experts in this.
So they're experts, smartlan me slighty, little snaky, little weasel lawyers,
and so they're weaseling and they're looking into the covenant
and saying, okay, wait, wait, Robbie, when you went and
had that affair, you gave us permission now to not
(15:19):
possess you because you've got the Holy spirit. The Holy
Spirit convicts you. You go to Vaughan, you say, hey,
this happened. She forgives you. But then the demags are like, yeah,
but dude, you gave us permission to be here. Now
we're here.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Because I sinned. I broke.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
After every miracle, almost in the Word of Gone, Jesus
performs a miracle, often says, now sin no more, because
sin is one of the reasons we become oppressed attached.
Even sicknesses we see in First Corinthians eleven with the communion,
Paul clearly says, many of you are sick and even
have fallen asleep, which in the Greek meant dead, right,
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because you have sinned against God.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
We mean virtually dead at that point, because you're speaking,
it was a physical death right.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
So he was accounting sickness that we have and even
death for some people because they had taken communion wrong,
showing that there are repercussions, there are.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Curses, there are in our disobedience.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
We love to talk about the obedience of God, right,
and when we are obedient to God, we receive blessings,
prosperity and long life. Now, of course, when you see
the word prosperity, a lot of.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
People like to go ah, right, But that.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Hebrew word for prosperity, if you go to one one
through three, where it clearly talks about and summarizes the
word of God's promises. Really, for obedience, prosperity means to
stand in the river of overflow. So imagine this gigantic
river just consuming you. It doesn't just mean or necessarily
mean or focus on wealth. It just means in general.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Right.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
And then, but on the left hand, we don't talk
about this in the church. It's curses for disobedience.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Let's see that. Let's talk about Christmas in a second.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
You said demonic attachment, attachment and oppression. Okay, So oppression,
I think that's a self explanatory word. You have demons
who are holding you down there, they're in your ear,
They're tempting you to do wrong things. They're speaking into
you that you don't matter, that God doesn't love you,
that hey, you know what, it's only a small sin.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
So they're doing that.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
They're oppressing you. They're holding you down, They're trying to
separate you from God.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Right.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
God's up here and they don't want you looking at him.
So distract, depressed, distort. What is demonic attachment? So it's
again I want to clarify. Even of the three, the
antidote is the same for all of them.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Jesus Christ, right, that's the main thing.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
So it's demonization, So I hate breaking them up, but
it's it's it's we'll just call it torment. It's the
chatter going on in your head when you're talking to yourself,
you're actually having a conversation with the demon. It's a
one sided conversation. It's not it's not of you.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
It's not. We're supposed to have a sound mind, But
you don't.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Mean that when I'm in a workout, like I was
doing a long shipper the other day, running and rope climbs,
and I got halfway through, and I was talking to
myself trying to talk myself out of completing it, like, well,
halfway's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
I mean, it could be. It could be not right
because I think the demons were not necessarily and I'm
not going to say that he is, or because.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
We are called to crucify the flesh, right, the flesh.
The last thing the flesh wants is for you to
complete that work. So even if it's just the flesh speaking,
which that does happen, right, because the flesh works for safety,
it's not the world. That's why we have to be
born again, born into spirit. But there is a demonization.
The demonization doesn't want you to complete anything that Christ calls.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Us to do.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
First tifty four eight. For physical fitness has some value,
but Godess has value. And all things only promise for
the present life and the life to come. God says
he will destroy those who destroy the temple. Right, the
Western Church is so heavily oppressed. Why Why do did
you know that Christians are committing suicide at higher rates
than the civilian world. Pastors in America are are committing
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suicide at high rights. Why because they're supposed to be
the freeze people on earth and setting the example of
what it means to live for Christ. Is because they
have not accept, expect, accepted the freedom God has in
the living rents work. Because when we sin, we open
up the door to the demonic. They have this ability
to now oppress you attached to you and cause reak
(19:10):
and havoc. Right, and and the ones that don't believe
in it and are want it's because they've never experienced
it from a clean and clear vision, and they've never
been in a room with real deliverance happening. And it's
the same things time and time again. The two largest
problems in this oppression attachment vein that I deal with
a ton is unforgiveness and fear.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Unforgiveness and fear are the two biggest problems most common
that you've seen before.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Unforgiveness and fear.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Even right now, sometimes not in this moment, but right,
unforgiveness and fear now trauma memories. Right, there's a spirit
of grief. The word about it is very clear of that.
So my wife and are in grief. We've had to
set limits. We've had wise filled pastors come talk to
us about this things, and we've taken it very serious
because the enemy will disguise in the grief.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
There's a spirit of grief.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
So wait, I have a demon coming along and saying,
and you think you're in grief, that there's a demon
of grief you.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Can go on to keep you in grief to an
unhealthy grief.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Right, And when you when you bite that, you've given
them permission.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Right.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
And what what we are doing in deliverance is it's
kind of an investigation, if you will, right, And we're
finding what's going on in your life because we've all
lied and we've all believed to lie right, And this
is how I look at the Word of God. And
John one one it says in the beginning of the word,
the word was with God.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
The word was God. John one fourteen says, and the
word became flesh. That's Jesus.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
So when I hold my Bible, I think I'm holding
Jesus in my hand. The word became flesh bearing grace
and truth. He is the way, the truth of life.
No one gets the father of him. So if he
is the standard of truth, and that means anything outside
of him is not truth, which means this microphone.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
If I asked you, is this black, you'd be like true.
We're like no, it's fact. That's how I look at it, right,
it's fact. It's not truth.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Because Jesus is truth, our conception or idea of what
truth is has to change. And that's the problem with
mixing at the world and not and not keeping in
the biblical vein and context that God has. Because I
think we can, we can. We can drag ourselves to
areas without understanding deliverance is clearly commanded, clearly commanded.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
I want to explore that more, and I want to
explore some of your mentors because one of the questions
I have Robbie is who delivers the deliverer? And I
I want to make sure when I'm dealing with the
pastor or I'm going to, like say, let's say I
decided to go through a deliverance process you. I want
to be able to look you in the I said, brother,
you used to have people holding you to account or
or or is it just you and God are But
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you just told me you have wise counsel coming to
you right now, right okay, So wisdom, like fear of
the Lord, is the beginning of wisdom. That's such a
cool phrase because it's the beginning.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
It's like that.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
I constantly say. One of the big lies in the
world is that information is power.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
It is not. It is potential power, it's fuel. It's
not power until you begin to use it.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Doctor Patrick Shad Tempo has a podcast called Christ Revealed
and he is also a guy just been given the
ministry of healing. So he developed a product called Wisdom
and this is a biblically based herbal blend. And the
way this came about was that doctor Jen Tempa was
in the Holy Land. He was back there studying and
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just loving walking into steps of Christ, and he kept
smelling all these spices and herbs, and he went.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
To the book to the Bible. It's wow.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
God talks about this stuff all the time, and yet
here we are pumping out pharmaceutical after pharmaceutical and wait,
this isn't the way.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
So he was inspired to create this product.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
And having them been inspired to do this, he went
through the scientific rigor to make.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
It a potent product.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
It's cold brewed, small batches, sound wave infuse, light wave
infuse to lock in the potency in the freshness. So
the benefits from this are immunological. It helps harness your
body's ability to take information and make it into a friend.
It helps with mental clergy and relaxation. My daughter and
I take this differently. I actually prefer taking it straight.
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I love the taste of it. My daughter takes it
throughout the day and she prefers to take it with coffee.
But she told me last night, Oh, I asked her,
are you still taking wish? She goes, Oh, I take
it all day, she goes. It helps me relax, I
don't get as anxious, and my daughter deals with some anxiety.
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So go to try wisdomnow dot com slash todd. So, Robbie,
who are And then I want to into the process
of deliverance. We'll get back to christ fits because I
know you've seen people deliver through that. You've been seen
people come and give their life to the Lord to that.
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Do you have spiritual mentors and deliverance mentors? Can you
name any of the Yeah?
Speaker 4 (23:47):
So from a just an overall context, my senior pastor,
I get discipled by I meet with him. I meet
with several of the elders from my church. One of
my very close friends. He is the head of our
deliverance team in our church. He does it all over
the world.
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I actually just.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Came into this by accident because God thrust me into it. Now,
I believe every Christian should know how to do it
because we're commanded to it. Right, We're commanded all of
us as the Great Commission. Now that doesn't mean that
you're called to do it? Does that makes sense for like,
so maybe there's no opportunity that arises and you just leave.
The Lord leads you and you have understanding and you
help deliver someone right in a moment.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
And just so, it doesn't mean that it becomes an avocation,
but it's something that's actually right versus maybe called a job.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
And I use that lightly because I don't. I think
even though I work for God, I think anyone who's
a Christian can consider themselves working for God. Everything you
have as his you're supposed to be glorifying his kingdom,
building his kingdom through what He's called you to do,
asked you to do, right, So so deliverance itself the
very well, let me backtrack. When I first given my
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life the Lord. I was on like six months into
the Lord, and our oldest daughter, who's not a wasn't
a Christian at the time.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Now she is.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
She's a very big on social media influencer, and it's
all for Christ. She comes comes to our house crying
and scream me from her dad's house. Uh, and she's
being attacked by a demon. I go there, Oh yeah,
the doors are slamming.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Bab Wait, so the doors are slamming in their own huh.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
And and I'm like, what the heck.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
I don't know what to do really, So we go
back to our house, which is also her house, but
she goes back forward right. So, and so I called
my grandpa because both my grandpas are pastors. Now I
don't know what I'm doing, and I just tell him
and he's like, Robbie.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
He tells me.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
He's like, you better repent, make sure that there's anything.
He's like, and you need to you need to go
anoint some oil and you're going to anoint the house.
And he's like, and you need to pray. Look God
that he baptized you can fire in a holy spirit.
I don't even know what that was I do. I
go up in my room and I just start praying
and I asked for it. I don't know how to
explain what happened other than it was supernatural. It was
like I was in this brightness just came upon me
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and I just start praying. And that's when I prayed
in tongue for the first time. I didn't even know
what it was, just happened to me. Boom, and then
I just felt. For lack of better way of describing it, invincible.
I just all I could think about was protecting my stepdaughter.
And I went with the anointing oil, and I went
to her father's house and her and I together anointed
every window, and then I went into our father's room
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and then in his.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Closet where it was.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
And as soon as I walked in, it's like I
got sucked into this blackness the only way I can
describe it, and there is the demon. I came face
to face with the demon, the only time I've been
face to face like this with an actual demon in
this regard, and I am like flinking oen oil. I
have no idea what I'm doing other than I'm just
trying to, like try my best to do what my
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grandpa said, and he don't warm me. It was gonna
get louder, and when it does, you go with it.
But I just I just cast in and kept casting
it out in the name of Jesus Christ and pleading
the blood of Christ over my daughter and this household.
And this went on for like thirty forty five minutes,
I don't even know how long. And it was throwing stuff,
it was screaming, it was hitting things like nothing like
I've ever experienced in my life. And then just like clockwork,
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all of a sudden it was bright and then all
I felt was the sun coming through the window of
the bathroom on me. I could see the clothes hanging
up in the closet and was like I was back,
just in normalcy, and it never messed with her again.
Then that night I was in bed, woke up from
a dream late in the night, and God had given
me this dream, and he told me the word Jezebel,
and then he told me that that the demon was
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attacking her, trying to possess her. I can't remember all
the details, and she's not a Christian, she wasn't a follower.
And he told me how it came to be and
where and all that stuff, but don't go in those details.
But that was my we'll call almost introduction into Christianity.
And then I'm sitting here reading and the whole time
I'm pondering with God all the time. I'm like, Lord, clearly,
demons are real, these are your how come the Church
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isn't doing this?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
You're commanding this.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
And he was planting seeds in me and directing me
because why aren't we doing these things? And I start
the men's group and ministry part of our church back
and Hailey there with our old church. Then we move
here and I start a men's group out of my
house here, and we're in full time ministry. We're all
worried about his soul's Sol's souls, and we end up
doing a deliverance. I've never done a deliverance. I don't
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even know really fully what it is and understanding yet
other than you hear about it.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
And I just followed the Lord.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
The Holy Spirit kept speaking to me and telling me
what to do, and I did it and it worked,
and we end up casting out demons and followed this
just following his voice what he was telling me to
do in the moment. Come to find out, eventually I
meet Doug and tell him everything happened, and it comes
to find out I'm doing it. Probably ninety five percent
I did right there by just following the unction to
the Lord the exact way he does it, so about
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ninety five percent with a little bit of looseness, and
the man got set free. Tons of people experience it,
like all of us, just like this is the first
time we experienced this, and from there on out, then
it's just been wildfire. So for the last about two
and a half years now, I've been working in my
wife and I both in deliverance ministry, and it's I mean,
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we have people context us from all over.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
In fact, your your show, we had pastor.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
I had a pastor from Oklahoma reach out to me
after when I was last on wanting deliverance of course,
and pastors do need this and because they're still the beings.
And so for people who are hearing this thing, it's
no Robbie didn't see a demon in a closet. That
didn't happen. That's insane. Can I just remind you that
you can't read the Bible and not understand that demons
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manifest in front of people. And you can't read the
Bible and not know that Jesus Christ himself confronted people
who were demonically possessed. And you can't read the Bible
and not know that the demons knew that was the
son of man and when when he would approach, it
would shudder and the son of man would you had
to do with us? So you have to and I
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do too, have to remind myself this is biblical, that
these demons do exist. And we live in a spiritual realm,
and look, we are making war. You you don't have
You can decide to not make war, but it at
that point it's being made upon you. So you mentioned
something about investigation, and this is like investigation. Let's talk
about that in a second. There's there's all sorts of
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ways that I think Satan is oppressing the world. One
of them is that that phrase that many hearts will
grow cold, and right now hearts have grown cold for
the unborn.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Now that's changing. But you think about.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
The oppression it takes, the possession it takes to turn
people into baby killers. And I bring this up because
my friend John, he is Alan's dad at Alan Soaps,
and John continues, by the way, to go back and
get his cancer checked. He might have had a relapse,
and I didn't. I didn't see the full text this morning,
so it can continue to pray for him. That company
would not exist if John and his wife had listened
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to the doctors of the world. The doctors of the
world looked at the altar sand with Alan. They said,
this guy, this little baby has structural problems. He's not
gonna have a no good life. He's you know, just
let us kill him. That's what they said, let us
kill this baby. And John his wife said absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
This is our son.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
So he is now thirteen fourteen, just turn fourteen. He
can't speak very well. He's on the autism spectrum way
up there. But he invents these soaps. They come from
special moments in his life. When you open a package
of Alan soaps, for instance, the cedarwood jasmine is my favorite. Also,
my daughters, there's watermelon basil. You're going to take the
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scent of a special moment in a little boy's life,
and that's what you apply to your body. There's scent
free if you like. But Allen's is not just about
the soap, which by the way, is made in America.
It's made by a family with three generations of soap
making expertise. It is not chemical laden, it's not made
by slave labor and China. In other words, it's not
about the soap that's a byproduct. It's about employing Alan
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and Ian and Amy and other young people that the
world would have tossed out or have them stored in
government boxes.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
So decide to use a soap product.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
That stands with your values. It's alansoaps dot com slash todd.
Go there, get ten percent off all their product. It's
alansaps dot com slash todd. You spoke about deliverance being
a process of investigation, and what's that investigation like? Because
I mean everything starts somewhere, But what's that like?
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Uh, I want to let me close something on that.
I think it's going to help people for a second. Right,
And then we answer this question, right, someone that's an atheist, Right,
they would say that's not my God, I'm not gonna
believe that. Well, we're going to tell them like something
along the lines of, Okay, Well, just because you don't
believe it doesn't make it any year less real, and
you're still going to face and we know that truth
in that same vein. When it comes to certain things
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scripturally that maybe we don't want to believe, it doesn't
make it any.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Less true, right, deliverance, for.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Example, we can deny it, but it doesn't make it
any less true. And you would never ever get me
to give the credit of deliverance to anyone else but
God or to deny the fact of.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
What they are, because I believe the church is the way.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
It is right now because the Demonic, one of their
greatest friends or allies against the Western Church has been,
in my opinion, is naive, a lack of say, a
lack of understanding, and quite frankly, unbelief. Roman's fourteen twenty
three says, anything without faith is a sin. It is
a it is a it is a sin to disbelieve
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a word of the words and the Word of God,
including deliverance. And that's the reason why we are so
under oppression and attachment in the Christian Church, in the
Western world primarily.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
So okay, so that's a big topic we should talk
about the Western Church and and selective not just enforcement,
but belief and faith into God's word. So what's this investigation?
Like someone comes to you, they hey, I need to
be delivered. You agree to go through this process, run
us through sort of a condensed version of what that's life.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
So let me let me clarify. I do believe every
Christian needs some form of deliverance.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
You do.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
I do, yes, In fact, my wife and I especially
since we're in the battlefields of life in a different
way than probably.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Most, but we're all in the war. The word of
God is very clear.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
We're in a spiritual war, and you can't enter a
war without being a casualty of it somewhere, Like if
I drive my car across the country and back, I'm
gonna have to change the oil.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Right.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
For example, my wife and I we do self deliverance
on each other from time to time because we now
know what it feels like and what it is to
live free of oppression and attachment with it, just a
silent mind, right, and no fear, and all those kinds
of things. Well, then when we start doing things like
making sinmful mistakes from time to time and coming into
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agreement with things, we notice the change when all of
a sudden it goes from temptation maybe something out here speaking,
and it's gone to chatter in your head and things
start coming. We now know the difference so well and
so clear that I know when I have come into
agreement with something, knowing or unknowing.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Coming into agreement with something. Demonic witchcraft happens the church.
The church is form is doing witchcraft all over the place.
Manipulation is witchcraft. Rebellion is witchcraft. If you're rebelling your husband,
or you're senior pastors and so forth, that's a form
of witchcraft, right, that is in itself rebellion and manipulation,
which is rooted in witchcraft.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Right.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
So now again there's different severities all these things. So
if someone came up to me, it's like, hey, I
want to be deliverance. My wife and I have kind
of created new problems. There's sometimes I'll just know and
I just because I also, I'm gonna just say it,
I see in the heavenlies and what I mean by that,
I've been given the gift of discerning of spirits. So
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from time to time I do now get to see demons.
God shows me and when they're on people. Not all
the time. There are people that I've I have done
deliverances on where I never saw it until we were
in deliverance. So for whatever reason God shows in his sovereignty,
I wasn't going to know I've had. And my wife
gets heavy empathy, a gift of empathy where she can
feel where they are because guys, when the spirit of
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heaviness the wordy about tells us put on a garment
of praise, that spirit is a demon heaviness, right, And
I don't know how many times we do deliverances and
all of a sudden, the person's standing taller, their skin
gets flush and clear and looks healthy, and all of
a sudden, bam, It's it's like clockwork every time. I
don't even want to say this stuff that happens afterwards,
where people are like and what they the results are,
what they say, because I don't want them to know.
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I want them to know they're supposed to do it.
So the way I didn't, I didn't construct anything, if
that makes sense. So I got that you don't want
to pre program people. You want them to their right natural,
God given response to this. So if you and I
were sitting here and you were starting the process of
deliverance with me, I would start asking questions because something
I also want to determine. First off, do you truly
need deliverance? And why do you think so? And then
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second off, when I'm also looking within, this is a
few handful of things. First off, a person doesn't need
deliverance or at least in an area of their life if
it's heart issue, right, a heart issue can't we don't
need to do a deliverance that and we need healing.
So healing and deliverance are two different things, and oftentimes
they think it's one and the same, and there are
can be some crossovers, right because because curses happen, things
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like that spirit of infirmity, for example. But when we
are in our investigation process, let's just say all the signs,
all right, we know we're supposed to do with deliverance.
Because what I'm really looking for is what's going on
in your life? What is going on that doesn't line
up with the word of God? So what lies are
you living out?
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Right?
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Anger? Spirit of murder? Are you struggling with suicide, addiction?
Speaker 4 (37:26):
You name it right, fill in the blink, adultery, And
that's the thing, is like even trauma happening, right, abandonment, orphanage, right,
if you didn't.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Have a father, huge, huge red flag, we'll call it.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
The other thing that God does is prophetically speaks to
me in those moments, and people who have been delivered,
and it's a lot, they would tell you these things
like it's real. God will tell me things that I
would never know right in the moment the Holy Spirit
directs me, and I always I say to them, I say,
holy ghosts, don't lie because some of the things I've
been told, given visions and given descriptions. I would never
know how it worn't for the work of the Lord
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working through me, because then now they're like, you know.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
That this has happened to me one time once what
you just described, and I could not believe the light
it brought to me.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Now someone speaking to you, or I was speaking to
a young woman.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
I gave a speech at a place and her friends
older friends.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
She she's good parents.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
You know, but she wasn't. Things weren't good at home.
So she was staying with some friends of mine, very
good Christian people, nothing weird. And they'd asked me, hey,
would you talk with her after the speech? She really
likes your podcast.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Oh? Absolutely, God should be an honor.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
And she walked up to me and introduced herself and Robbie,
this is just came out of me. I looked like,
I go, church is scary, isn't it. She went yes,
and I said, sit with me.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Church hurts. Yeah, how do you know this holy Spirit?
Speaker 1 (39:03):
I've ever met you? And she revealed a few more
things to me. And this girl's nineteen, she's how do
you know these things? I go, I don't. It's a
holy Spirit. And one of the organizers came over because
I was supposed to get back up on stage and says, hey,
can you come over her? This is important that I
looked at my God brother, I'm here to tell you
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it's not. And I turned back and was talking to
this young woman. And in that moment God gave me
the words to give to her so she might consider
going back to church. She is back, she's active, she's
joined ministries. And I mean, Robbie, in fifteen seconds, I knew,
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so I can relate to that. So you're saying that
in the process of delivering people, sometimes the Holy Spirit
delivers to you a detailed picture and you say to
a person, Hey, have you ever been through the following
trauma at a place time and this happened. You've got
to have people look at.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
You going, oh, are you a peeping tom like that?
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Right?
Speaker 4 (40:06):
Right, No, you're reading my mail essentially, right, what you experience,
that's called the spirit of knowledge. So God gave you knowledge,
insight into the person's life. Now what I want with
knowledge is wisdom, because wisdom now tells me how do
I apply this? How do I enter the situation with
this knowledge You've given me? Lord, So I can make
a difference because like with the flock. I know a
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lot about what's going on in people's lives, even though
they they don't always know that.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
I know, right, because God tells me.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
And it's not so I can be a jerk, or
sometimes it's not even so I can tell say something
to him. God doesn't even want me to release it,
and so he I know. And now I can minister
accordingly with grace and compassion and truth, right, and so
he Now I take that and wisdom applied to it
is minister to the person in such a manner that
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they're not a hurt, right, and that you take care
of them more gently. And for example, in kind of
this vein, for example, and the deliverance, I'm just gonna
use it a person. My wife and I were doing
deliverance on the Lord. Clearly in the middle of it
tells me bestiality wow, right, And and I'm like, okay.
And because I have these moments where I don't want
but I know the Lord's boice so well, I know
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when it's him that spoke, and he never lies, it's
never wrong.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
My faith and trust in God is through the room.
So you actually said to a.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
Person, oh, I came right, out and I said, look,
I said, it's gonna sound crazy, and I don't even
want to say this because I have to say some
things that I that that would be hurtful or offensive
oftentimes if it weren't for the fact that they're true,
because God.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Wants me to help heal.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
I'm a minister of the Gospel, and my job is
to help apply the freedom that God has for this
person and deliverance. But in order to do it, they
would need to be willing and wanting to be delivered.
They need to be already a Christian.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
They need to be.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
Ready to obey the word of God and give forgiveness
and things like this and believe that it is for them, right,
and some other parameters in that regard. But so I
say this and the person's like, they are just like floored,
and they're like, how did you know that?
Speaker 2 (42:09):
And I was like, holy ghost, don't lie. I told you.
The Lord tells me things and I have to.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
And then the person said, okay, that happened when they
were younger, this thing, right, I don't't go into details,
but and they said, when they were praying and talking
with the Lord like about this getting the deliverance and
needing it, and they were, and the Lord was putting
on their heart or whatever was going on. The person said,
and I am not talking about that. I will not
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talk about that. The only way if I have to
address that, Lord, you have to bring it up.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Guess what he did? A brought it up, because you don't.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
People are so unaware of what is actually holding them down,
what is actually spiritually bringing them down. If the Church
was walking in the true freedom that God has for
them from deliverance because of the resources, in my opinion,
and what the Western Church has access to that others don't,
we would have faith that actually moves mountains. Even though
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if you go to that that's a whole own story,
that doesn't actually mean it was a figure of speech
in the Hebrew.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
So but.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
The things that the Western Church would be able to
accomplish in the Lord would glow through it.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
My wife and I are able to live like the disciples.
Speaker 4 (43:22):
Literally we don't have paychecks, and yet everything we always say,
never miss me, will never miss a payment. And I
believe it's because of the willingness, the level of obedience.
We've been willing to walk out even when it doesn't
make sense and even when I don't understand. I don't
understand everything about deliverance. I don't ever understand everything about
the Word of God. But what I do know is
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he doesn't lie. And just as Moses was like, Lord,
I'm not going to the Promised Land unless you're with me,
he would rather stand in the desert for forty years
with God there than be in the Promised Land where
it's supposed to be a blessing but him not be there.
I want to go wherever the Lord is, and if
he tells me I'm supposed to go there, and I'll
go there. And that's the thing, is what I have
found is when I go where we're supposed to go,
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I get to meet the Lord.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
I have encounters with them.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
And one of the places you're supposed to go was
christ Fits and the stated conversation back to that, because
you are about to blow past the space you have
in the North Idaho area. So let's talk about that
here in a second. There's I've never gotten to introduced
to you to my friend Tim Krukshank and talked about
his company here.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
He was a Navy seal. Oh yeah you've told me
about Yeah, yeahyeah, great guy.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
And you get to meet him with it. By the way, dude,
I never did tell you I did that seal fit thing.
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just like Robbie. He lost his beloved wife Liz, and
Tim had helped her live a long long time past
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Todd So, Robbie, one of the places you were called
to go was christ Fit and when that happened, I
remember it started as a mobile gym, and then you
got a location and you're banging it out there. It's
donation based, so people can come in and donate rack rates,
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like a decent CrossFit gym is one fifty to maybe
two hundred a month. There's classes, et cetera. But you
can also have people coming in who don't have the money.
Right now, you're telling me, you guys need a new location.
You need new donors, so you need a new North
Idaho location.
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Yeah.
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We have almost eight hundred members. Wow, we're only able
to service about three percent of them. And we're just
a small facility. We're three thousand square feet but we
have a breakroom, we have office, two bathrooms, and then
we have a physical therapist on site, doctor of Physical
Therapy Elevate.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Two to eight.
Speaker 4 (47:26):
Now he's separate up but attached to part of he's
also a part of my church. Yeah, and he has
an office plus a second one and then we have
a kid section because he just hired a second physical
therapist to work for them because.
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They're just so busy.
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So we're really operating with about twelve hundred square feet.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
Wow, So it's not a lot.
Speaker 4 (47:42):
And our classes range one might have four all the
way up to you know, fifteen sixteen is I'd say
ten or more is our average, especially on the five
thirty in the three thirty class, but we've had classes
with twenty nine people in there.
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You just can't move.
Speaker 4 (47:56):
Honestly, if it was if I had my perfect way,
it would just be six people class with a bar
because it's just tight quarters.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
We need a new location.
Speaker 4 (48:05):
We've had over sixty people led to Christ and the
Christ to the gym, yep to the gym. And that's
the thing is, even though I'm a deliverance pastor, my
focus is the gospel right. Salvation is the most important thing.
Let me make this very very very clear. I am
all about the Father's business and Salvation is the key
to everything. So our goal is to unite the church,
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equipped the saints, and reach the lost, make Jesus famous right,
sharing the gospel through exercise and events and The result
is we've probably got currently going close to fifteen different
churches represented in the region already going their pastors, senior
pastors from other churches talking about deliverance.
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I've done deliverances on multiple pastors, senior.
Speaker 4 (48:44):
Pastors in this this who didn't believe in it, didn't
walk in it, came to me and asked for it,
and they and now they're preaching it and bring it
into their church. Why because they realized they were wrong.
They've repented for not believing things like this. That's how
I mean, it's so real. So but the real story
here for the christ Fit is we need a new location.
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I have a location a couple of week blocks down
the road that we really want. I would really like
to have that. I think it's the perfect next step
size to really be able to bring in more of
the public and especially the actual current base that we have.
It's sixty five hundred square feet ideally I'd love like
ten thousand.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
But so we need donors. So how do people get
to you so they can do that?
Speaker 4 (49:28):
Christ Fit gym c d A dot org Again, christ
Fit jim c DA dot org is where you can
make donations through. There also Venmo, but you know, under
six hundred bucks on Venmo. And and but christ Fit,
Jim cdlorry come in check.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
So forth.
Speaker 4 (49:45):
Most of our donors are actually not even going to
the gym. They just believe in what we're doing or
they've experienced something through us, and so now they they.
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Do it and donate. And many people that.
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Wouldn't be able to have fitness otherwise now have fitness
because we're really worried about everything, the whole package. So
every class starts with prayer, then I preach. We call
it devotional. And we have another trainer. Her name is Michelle.
She does the eight thirty class. She's also a very
gifted public speaker. She's in women's ministry and travels and speaks.
And then she's also a CrossFit Level one coach and
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her name is Michelle Tufford and wonderful woman of God.
So she does the eight thirty classes. I do all
the other classes. And then we have a young man
from our church. Also we'll call it being groomed to
be a pastor from our church. He feels called in
nine years roughly because God put it on heart would
be ten years. And that's a year ago He's going
to launch a christ Fit in Australia and that's going
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to have a church in it. We're also already God's
given me the vision for it, and we're looking at Athel.
We need property in Athel, by the.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Way, because we're a global podcast.
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I know a weird name, guys Athel. I know that
Idaho we have some weird names like Ratam and Apple.
But Athel, we need property. God's given me a very
big vision for that one. What I'm discerning right now
with our eldership is whether or not we'll have a
church in that one and if so, if I'm going
to be the senior pastor of it. If I do,
then I will back off and not probably do classes.
So in that vision, we're gonna have a Fruits to
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the Spirit smoothie shop. I want to have hyperbaric chamber.
We're gonna have an outdoor gym. I want to have
a mountain.
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Next to it so you can bring your rucksacks and
get ready for hunting.
Speaker 4 (51:17):
A little kind of library and open mic and worship
stuff going on at the Fruits of the Spirit.
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I want to have a five.
Speaker 4 (51:22):
Hundred seat plus or more theater for Christian wholesome entertainment
for the community, and then that would probably we were
the church ends up being within it too, but that
we need property and athle to pull this off. I
know it's gonna happen. It's just a matter of who
and when and how, and God decides to do it.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
Like christ Fit, we started got to put us on
the heart.
Speaker 4 (51:43):
I'm sitting here trying to create, like all right, Lord,
And for like eight months, we're trying to get donations,
trying to do everything, and we're getting very minimal and
I'm like, Lord, I'm looking stupid out here. And then
all of a sudden, we get an almost fifty thousand
dollars brand new mobile gym by beaver Fit donated to us,
and so immediately I'm able to start in the parks.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
We are classes.
Speaker 4 (52:03):
The very first class we had three people, the second class,
which was the very Monday fallowing Monday, six people, then twelve,
and they kept doubling, doubling, doubling. Within six weeks, I
didn't have all the donations we needed. I just signed
for the new building, the one we have right now,
And as soon as I signed it, then we got
donations to move into the building. And I'm talking miracles
after miracles I could go into.
Speaker 2 (52:24):
But in order to fulfill this out and.
Speaker 4 (52:25):
Continue to change the community and make Jesus famous, which
I don't think you can change the community without making
Jesus famous.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
Uh, we need another building.
Speaker 4 (52:33):
We've we've had atheists, people from the lgbt Q give
their lives to the Lord in the building, Mormons, Catholics.
So it's been it's been wild. And then healings and deliverances.
Obviously deliverances. We have deliverances have just last week, a
member of ours that goes to Candlelight got delivered at
the end of the workout. It just happened organically. She
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was like praying, like God would quiet her mind all
these things, and she ended it was so beautiful and
the whole next the other class, and mind you, these
are people from all different churches in the community. Everyone's
here and we're all in uncommon you know, and everyone
just lays hands on her and I start praying. We
end up I just follow the unctions of the Lord
and we and what she's already said and walking through deliverance,
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and her immediate reaction.
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Is just how joyful she feels, how.
Speaker 4 (53:20):
Peace and it's quiet and that then earlier this week
see her and she's like, my in my head has
been quieter than it's ever been her whole life. She's
she's feeling peace that she has never felt. So she's
getting an experience the goodness of God that gets robbed
because the enemy comes to kill, still and destroy. So
and then healings. We've had, for example, two people come
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to mind terminally ill, cancer, gonna pass.
Speaker 2 (53:44):
Fairly quick, pray over him, healed.
Speaker 4 (53:47):
A child was born immediately puting Niku with a whole
in the heart. We prayed over him and he was
healed very next day, taking off the feeding to very
next day, went home. Healing after healing, after healing, keeps
happening here, like God is doing crazy, crazy things that
I can go into, so many of them, so many
testimonies are coming out of here that they're just I
don't have to sit here and tell stuff. I'm grateful
I have a mic right now to say it. But
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people are doing it themselves. God's literally spreading with himself.
So we have people show up. We have people calls
from different states asking for prayer, uh because.
Speaker 2 (54:16):
They're hearing about what God is doing in here. And
God and it's all him right God, Robbie Walden christ Fit.
It's christ Fit dot Cdachris Fit, Jim christ fit dot org.
And we'll put a link in the show notes right now,
so much all right, this is the Todd Herman Show.
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Please go, be well, be strong, be kind and walk
in the light of Christ.
What does it mean to be saved? Well, what does
it mean to be in the process of being saved
versus having been saved? The Bible has three tenses that
we are saved in justifications, that's Romans eight twenty four.
We are being saved through sanctification First Corinthians one point eighteen,
and we will be saved glorification First Corinthians three fifteen.
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My friend Dan put some of this together last night
for our life group Bible study. My friend's pastor, Robbie
Walden is with me and he is an expert and
in fact a pastor in deliverance. He's also an expert
in our bodies and the temple and is using his
gifts as an athlete to help people come to Lord
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through something.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Called Christ Fit.
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We'll talk about deliverance, what it means to be deliveran
that looks like how you do it, and body as
a temple.
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Talk about this with Robbie Walden.
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Today is to day the Lord has made, and these
are the times through which God has decided we shall live.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
My friend Robbie waldens with me. We shake hands on set.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
You don't know what he's supposed to do that, but
thank you for coming in, brother, Appreciate.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
You for having again.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah, so let's start with I guess let's start with
the struggle, because there are people who they'll see guys
like you. Okay, So Robbie's he's a combat vet, he's
a ward winning athlete. He did a great had a
great career in music and still publishing records. It's on
the charts, and he's married and everything's perfect. And I
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guess last last February, things weren't perfect anymore.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Can you tell my folks what happened? Uh? Yeah, So,
first off.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Again, thank you guys for having me back. And it's
a it's a privilege and honor. As he was saying,
we have a ministry called christ Fit Jim c DA.
The first one was my old Army teammate who's also
a pastor, Billy weatherall out of Older City, Louisiana. And
then we have a second location in Oklahoma with the
Davenport family, and and we're now the third and.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Hey, Idaho.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Yeah here, well technically in Quarterlane or Dalton Gardens really
Dalton Government there. But so we had started that and
we're also I'm a pastor at Heart of the City Church,
licensed pastor with with our church, and and.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
We started christ Fit. We're about at this.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Point five months in probably six yeah, about five months
in six months in something like that. I guess it
was actually like six months now, mind you. It's a
free gym, right, It's a nonprofit, donation based gym where
we share the gospel through exercise and events. Our goals
to unite the church, equip the saints, and reach the loss.
My wife and I were running with our feet just
going as full boar. I get up at three in
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the morning, my day starts and I go to bed late.
So we are busy in ministry. We've been living with
the Disciples for four and a half years. Never missed
the meal, never missed a payment. We go into the
new year February twenty ninth, or the third class in
the day is starting seven thirty class and I look
over and there's a text for my wife and she says,
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don't call. I'm on the phone with Josie. That's our
oldest daughter, my oldest step daughter. And she says, don't call.
I'm on the phone with Josie.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Cassidy died. Please come home.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
And the people know, Yeah, she's and so she's my
second oldest stepdaughter. Just a wonderful, wonderful girl. And so
I'm just kind of numb. I leave the gym.
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The class just takes it.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
I mean, we didn't have to do anything for the
next like two weeks or so. The class, I mean,
the members just.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Took care of everything. We just literally up and left it.
I run home.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
I'm kind of just I call Pastor Jail, our senior pastor,
and tell him. And Raadine and and and Raadine was
just so wonderful to me and my wife too, and
she just she is so wisdom wise. And I pulled
into the drive normally, I back in the driveway and
I pulled and had first just gun it. My wife's
in her bathrobe sitting standing out there waiting for me.
I got and we just started crying and screaming and
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just holding each other and the worst day of my life.
And we go inside. She kind of tells me what's
going on, what happened. The detectives has been trying all
night to get ahold of us, but our ringers were off.
We were in bed. She was in Kawaii on vacation
with her boyfriend. She drowned and she was twenty and
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my wife got to FaceTime her literally just before it happened,
and my wife knew it was the last day she
was ever going to talk to her.
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She just knew.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
She knew, and we both have known we were going
to lose a child. I don't know how to say
other than God's prepared us for it. We've both known
it and talked about it. We've believed it, and not
that we wanted to believe that that you're manifest that No, no,
because it was from the Lord. And that week, in fact,
I had I had a dream. I believe it was
three times. I kept and I was in the ocean
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and there was sharks and a grizzly bears and I
didn't know what it was, but it was not good,
and it was it was unique.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Because I had this peace about it.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
But I knew it wasn't good, and I woke up
every time. I'm like, babe, something bad's gonna happen. I
don't know what's going on. I told her the dream
and I kept having it. She dies in the in
the she drowned, and not even a year ago. No, uh,
February twenty eighth will technically be a year. We found
out the twenty ninth, the morning of and then all
my wife wanted to do was pray and praise, and
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so we put on worship music and we got on
our knees and cried and.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Praised the Lord for hours, probably two hours.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Then Jayoe and Radin come over and minister to us,
and it was wild because my wife wanted she had
a that morning, she was scheduled for a crown on
her to our root Canal, sorry, and she wanted to
still do it now because we're going to be traveling
back to our hometown of Haley, Idah to be with
our oldest Josie and everybody just begin the process that
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is when we lose someone, especially a child, And.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
So we go there. Now she's in her chair and
she goes. She asked me to.
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Go out of the doctor's office and go call her
dad and tell them what happened. He doesn't answer, So
immediately I start crying out to the Lord.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I'm crying.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
I'm like, upset, I'm not really directing, and I am,
but I'm like, I'm reminding him of a promise, and
God to give me this promise about six seven years
before this, and he gave me a vision and it
was my daughter Casty was Casty. She was behind the
pulpit of our old church, which at this time was
our current church, and she was preaching. And he told
and he told me she was going to come to Christ,
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that she was going to be in ministry with us,
because my wife and our own ministry, and at this
point we weren't yet full time actually, but and that
she was going to be in ministry, and that her
real dad was going to come to Christ and many
were going to come to Christ as a work of her.
And so I'm like, Lord, what the heck you gave
me this vision? What about this vision? And you told me,
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And let me tell you, I am prophetic, and the
Lord's prophecies, his words, they come to pass. I'm living examples.
Christ fit isn't one of those. If it wasn't for
the prophecy and what God spoke to us to do,
and you know, yeah, so it's real, right and and
so I'm going off and at the same time, my
wife is in the chair unrenounced to me at the moment,
saying the same things. God, what about the promise and
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the vision? And he told us both the exact same thing.
He said, yes, but I didn't tell you how it
would be done or how I would do it. Long
story short, two weeks later, her real father, Jason, gives
his life to the Lord. It has been a snowball effect.
And really she is in the ministry with us. She's
now part of our testimony. And I'm preaching from a
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point of losing a daughter this whole last year, and
I knew more people have been saved than I can
count right now, including tons of her friends, her boyfriend
also who had given a life to Lord. And this
is the beautiful part for me, because I'm a heavy
evangelist and I've led hundreds of people to Christ, just
even on the streets, right so my wife has only
led one person to Christ all on her own, without
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being there with me or me with her in the process.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
And it was our daughter casting God, Praise God.
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So it's a great testimony. And I think you told
me it's sixty people been saved sixty something. Yeah, and
through Christ for it. And I'll have to come for
a workout there one day with Robbie Walden. And it's
from that stance that this battles you've been through as
a combat veteran and someone who's wounded that way and
has served our country lots of spiritual wounds we talked
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about last time that you've been through. I want to
transition into discussion about deliverance, and I'll tell you why,
because a lot of my friends are asking about I've
got family members asking about it. I'm thinking about doing it.
I think I might need to be delivered, so I
want to go through that process. I also want to
talk about what you've seen in the faces of people
who are being delivered and we're bringing back over to
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Cross to Christ fits. One of the things that Robby
and I shared in common is a just a commitment
to keeping the temple in shape. And both of us
love to work out of nowhere near the athlete that
Robby is. I mean, just take a look at us
and you can see these far far more yoke than
I am, and I get nothing going on compared to Robbie.
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of the show, Robbie, there I am being a radio host.
The top of the show. There's a top of the
show and podcasts because people listen whenever they want.
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He's the top of the hour.
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So we have the Bible goes through these three tenses
of we've been saved through justification. We're being saved, that's
the process of sanctification.
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We will be saved the process of glorification.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
And so I accept Lord Jesus as my savior Messiah.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I act that way.
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I abide, and sometimes abiding is hard, and sanctification hurts sometimes.
But the more I read God's word, the more I
see us being warned about false teachers and about going astray,
and about the heart growing cold. And I believe, and
I know this is very controversial, I believe we can
decide to say, hey, you know what, I'd rather not have.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
The free gift of salvation. I prefer to have.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
The world, so I'm going to pur the soothe of
things of the world, thanks very much. But no, I
don't think people do that consciously. So I've begun thinking
about the way the enemy works on us. My understanding is,
if you look at this from a diligence perspective, we
have all sorts of areas in our body and our soul.
We may have given our business to the Lord. We
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may have given our parenting to the Lord, but we
may be holding back on personal relationships or well, I
like to gamble, so I'm not going to give that
to the Lord. And our body is like a series
of It's like a hotel. And my understanding is that
a demon can say, hey, you know what, you just
gave me permission to enter. That room might be a
sexual room, might be a business room, might be family room.
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Do I get that right? So that's how I explained deliverance.
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And again, this is one of those topics that is
controversial in the church, and it shouldn't be. Deliverance is
convers Why I think people don't want to believe it
maybe taboo, and it's only in the Western church. Go
to the Eastern cultures. They're doing it everywhere, and in fact,
because they lack things like medical and so forth, they
rely heavily in the spirit. That's why they go into witchcraft.
And because they know witchcraft to be real and it
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works in many cases. They will not come to God
unless He shows his power on display in the first place,
what I have found, and I think in this church,
in the Western Church, right or very tangible.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I think we can be very pharaceutical.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
We chase knowledge, right, and it's all this substantial, surface
based knowledge instead of in the spirit.
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We are in the heavenlyes.
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We are at a war, right, he tells us, we
are in a war. I got shot in Iraq Apri seven,
two thousand and four and Samara, right, and he used
this as a metaphor with me one time. He said,
even though I wouldn't have been shot, I came back
with PTSD, night terrors, blown ear drums, you name it,
and the mental stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I get tempted suicide.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
In twenty fourteen, I had so many teammates that have
am have committed suicide, right, because we're being tormented.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
And now someone to say, yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Because you're you weren't a Christiano too, right, because many
believe that a Christian cannot have demonic attachment of any sources.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Right, Well, there's three types.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Of demonization, because it's really demonization. There's possession, oppression, and attachment.
Possession is for a non believer, right and because I
cannot be delivered in the first place unless I am
a believer. But there is oppression and attachment. And we
are in a war. And if we weren't, if we
weren't such a heavy prize to the demonic, then they
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would just leave us alone at that point. No, because
there's something they can kill still and destroy while they're here.
They can get our eyes off the cross, the cross,
the cross, the cross, right, yeah, actually, And but the
thing is, I want everything Jesus Christ paid for and
bought on that when he purchased me on the cross,
which means I need to walk out everything the full
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Great Commission of Mark sixteen, for example, right, which part
of that is deliverance. Salvation and freedom are two different things.
If I come an adultery in my wife right now today,
Let's say I had an affair, got the woman pregnant.
There are physical and spiritual consequences, period. I think anyone
using common sense would say, well, absolutely right, the woman
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gets pregnant. Now my kids, my step children are upset
with me. Let's say, Yvonne does forgive me and she
lets it keep rolling with us, right, but she's got
insecurities on forgiveness, situations, you name it, and all these
things just stockpile and compound, pile, right and cause just
enormous problems. Why because I gave the demonic spiritual authority
over me. I broke God's commands. They work off of legalism. Wait, wait,
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the demons work off of lib absolutely. So there they see.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
This covenant that we've been given the gift of forgiveness redemption.
And they see this covenants and they're experts in this.
So they're experts, smartlan me slighty, little snaky, little weasel lawyers,
and so they're weaseling and they're looking into the covenant
and saying, okay, wait, wait, Robbie, when you went and
had that affair, you gave us permission now to not
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possess you because you've got the Holy spirit. The Holy
Spirit convicts you. You go to Vaughan, you say, hey,
this happened. She forgives you. But then the demags are like, yeah,
but dude, you gave us permission to be here. Now
we're here.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Because I sinned. I broke.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
After every miracle, almost in the Word of Gone, Jesus
performs a miracle, often says, now sin no more, because
sin is one of the reasons we become oppressed attached.
Even sicknesses we see in First Corinthians eleven with the communion,
Paul clearly says, many of you are sick and even
have fallen asleep, which in the Greek meant dead, right,
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because you have sinned against God.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
We mean virtually dead at that point, because you're speaking,
it was a physical death right.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
So he was accounting sickness that we have and even
death for some people because they had taken communion wrong,
showing that there are repercussions, there are.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Curses, there are in our disobedience.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
We love to talk about the obedience of God, right,
and when we are obedient to God, we receive blessings,
prosperity and long life. Now, of course, when you see
the word prosperity, a lot of.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
People like to go ah, right, But that.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Hebrew word for prosperity, if you go to one one
through three, where it clearly talks about and summarizes the
word of God's promises. Really, for obedience, prosperity means to
stand in the river of overflow. So imagine this gigantic
river just consuming you. It doesn't just mean or necessarily
mean or focus on wealth. It just means in general.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Right.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
And then, but on the left hand, we don't talk
about this in the church. It's curses for disobedience.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Let's see that. Let's talk about Christmas in a second.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
You said demonic attachment, attachment and oppression. Okay, So oppression,
I think that's a self explanatory word. You have demons
who are holding you down there, they're in your ear,
They're tempting you to do wrong things. They're speaking into
you that you don't matter, that God doesn't love you,
that hey, you know what, it's only a small sin.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
So they're doing that.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
They're oppressing you. They're holding you down, They're trying to
separate you from God.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Right.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
God's up here and they don't want you looking at him.
So distract, depressed, distort. What is demonic attachment? So it's
again I want to clarify. Even of the three, the
antidote is the same for all of them.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Jesus Christ, right, that's the main thing.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
So it's demonization, So I hate breaking them up, but
it's it's it's we'll just call it torment. It's the
chatter going on in your head when you're talking to yourself,
you're actually having a conversation with the demon. It's a
one sided conversation. It's not it's not of you.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
It's not. We're supposed to have a sound mind, But
you don't.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Mean that when I'm in a workout, like I was
doing a long shipper the other day, running and rope climbs,
and I got halfway through, and I was talking to
myself trying to talk myself out of completing it, like, well,
halfway's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
I mean, it could be. It could be not right
because I think the demons were not necessarily and I'm
not going to say that he is, or because.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
We are called to crucify the flesh, right, the flesh.
The last thing the flesh wants is for you to
complete that work. So even if it's just the flesh speaking,
which that does happen, right, because the flesh works for safety,
it's not the world. That's why we have to be
born again, born into spirit. But there is a demonization.
The demonization doesn't want you to complete anything that Christ calls.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Us to do.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
First tifty four eight. For physical fitness has some value,
but Godess has value. And all things only promise for
the present life and the life to come. God says
he will destroy those who destroy the temple. Right, the
Western Church is so heavily oppressed. Why Why do did
you know that Christians are committing suicide at higher rates
than the civilian world. Pastors in America are are committing
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suicide at high rights. Why because they're supposed to be
the freeze people on earth and setting the example of
what it means to live for Christ. Is because they
have not accept, expect, accepted the freedom God has in
the living rents work. Because when we sin, we open
up the door to the demonic. They have this ability
to now oppress you attached to you and cause reak
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and havoc. Right, and and the ones that don't believe
in it and are want it's because they've never experienced
it from a clean and clear vision, and they've never
been in a room with real deliverance happening. And it's
the same things time and time again. The two largest
problems in this oppression attachment vein that I deal with
a ton is unforgiveness and fear.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Unforgiveness and fear are the two biggest problems most common
that you've seen before.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Unforgiveness and fear.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Even right now, sometimes not in this moment, but right,
unforgiveness and fear now trauma memories. Right, there's a spirit
of grief. The word about it is very clear of that.
So my wife and are in grief. We've had to
set limits. We've had wise filled pastors come talk to
us about this things, and we've taken it very serious
because the enemy will disguise in the grief.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
There's a spirit of grief.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
So wait, I have a demon coming along and saying,
and you think you're in grief, that there's a demon
of grief you.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Can go on to keep you in grief to an
unhealthy grief.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Right, And when you when you bite that, you've given
them permission.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Right.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
And what what we are doing in deliverance is it's
kind of an investigation, if you will, right, And we're
finding what's going on in your life because we've all
lied and we've all believed to lie right, And this
is how I look at the Word of God. And
John one one it says in the beginning of the word,
the word was with God.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
The word was God. John one fourteen says, and the
word became flesh. That's Jesus.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
So when I hold my Bible, I think I'm holding
Jesus in my hand. The word became flesh bearing grace
and truth. He is the way, the truth of life.
No one gets the father of him. So if he
is the standard of truth, and that means anything outside
of him is not truth, which means this microphone.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
If I asked you, is this black, you'd be like true.
We're like no, it's fact. That's how I look at it, right,
it's fact. It's not truth.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Because Jesus is truth, our conception or idea of what
truth is has to change. And that's the problem with
mixing at the world and not and not keeping in
the biblical vein and context that God has. Because I
think we can, we can. We can drag ourselves to
areas without understanding deliverance is clearly commanded, clearly commanded.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
I want to explore that more, and I want to
explore some of your mentors because one of the questions
I have Robbie is who delivers the deliverer? And I
I want to make sure when I'm dealing with the
pastor or I'm going to, like say, let's say I
decided to go through a deliverance process you. I want
to be able to look you in the I said, brother,
you used to have people holding you to account or
or or is it just you and God are But
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you just told me you have wise counsel coming to
you right now, right okay, So wisdom, like fear of
the Lord, is the beginning of wisdom. That's such a
cool phrase because it's the beginning.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
It's like that.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
I constantly say. One of the big lies in the
world is that information is power.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
It is not. It is potential power, it's fuel. It's
not power until you begin to use it.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Doctor Patrick Shad Tempo has a podcast called Christ Revealed
and he is also a guy just been given the
ministry of healing. So he developed a product called Wisdom
and this is a biblically based herbal blend. And the
way this came about was that doctor Jen Tempa was
in the Holy Land. He was back there studying and
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just loving walking into steps of Christ, and he kept
smelling all these spices and herbs, and he went.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
To the book to the Bible. It's wow.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
God talks about this stuff all the time, and yet
here we are pumping out pharmaceutical after pharmaceutical and wait,
this isn't the way.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
So he was inspired to create this product.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
And having them been inspired to do this, he went
through the scientific rigor to make.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
It a potent product.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
It's cold brewed, small batches, sound wave infuse, light wave
infuse to lock in the potency in the freshness. So
the benefits from this are immunological. It helps harness your
body's ability to take information and make it into a friend.
It helps with mental clergy and relaxation. My daughter and
I take this differently. I actually prefer taking it straight.
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I love the taste of it. My daughter takes it
throughout the day and she prefers to take it with coffee.
But she told me last night, Oh, I asked her,
are you still taking wish? She goes, Oh, I take
it all day, she goes. It helps me relax, I
don't get as anxious, and my daughter deals with some anxiety.
You can try this, go to try Wisdom now dot
com slash todd. You'll get thirty three percent off when
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So go to try wisdomnow dot com slash todd. So, Robbie,
who are And then I want to into the process
of deliverance. We'll get back to christ fits because I
know you've seen people deliver through that. You've been seen
people come and give their life to the Lord to that.
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Do you have spiritual mentors and deliverance mentors? Can you
name any of the Yeah?
Speaker 4 (23:47):
So from a just an overall context, my senior pastor,
I get discipled by I meet with him. I meet
with several of the elders from my church. One of
my very close friends. He is the head of our
deliverance team in our church. He does it all over
the world.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I actually just.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Came into this by accident because God thrust me into it. Now,
I believe every Christian should know how to do it
because we're commanded to it. Right, We're commanded all of
us as the Great Commission. Now that doesn't mean that
you're called to do it? Does that makes sense for like,
so maybe there's no opportunity that arises and you just leave.
The Lord leads you and you have understanding and you
help deliver someone right in a moment.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
And just so, it doesn't mean that it becomes an avocation,
but it's something that's actually right versus maybe called a job.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
And I use that lightly because I don't. I think
even though I work for God, I think anyone who's
a Christian can consider themselves working for God. Everything you
have as his you're supposed to be glorifying his kingdom,
building his kingdom through what He's called you to do,
asked you to do, right, So so deliverance itself the
very well, let me backtrack. When I first given my
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life the Lord. I was on like six months into
the Lord, and our oldest daughter, who's not a wasn't
a Christian at the time.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Now she is.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
She's a very big on social media influencer, and it's
all for Christ. She comes comes to our house crying
and scream me from her dad's house. Uh, and she's
being attacked by a demon. I go there, Oh yeah,
the doors are slamming.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Bab Wait, so the doors are slamming in their own huh.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
And and I'm like, what the heck.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
I don't know what to do really, So we go
back to our house, which is also her house, but
she goes back forward right. So, and so I called
my grandpa because both my grandpas are pastors. Now I
don't know what I'm doing, and I just tell him
and he's like, Robbie.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
He tells me.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
He's like, you better repent, make sure that there's anything.
He's like, and you need to you need to go
anoint some oil and you're going to anoint the house.
And he's like, and you need to pray. Look God
that he baptized you can fire in a holy spirit.
I don't even know what that was I do. I
go up in my room and I just start praying
and I asked for it. I don't know how to
explain what happened other than it was supernatural. It was
like I was in this brightness just came upon me
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and I just start praying. And that's when I prayed
in tongue for the first time. I didn't even know
what it was, just happened to me. Boom, and then
I just felt. For lack of better way of describing it, invincible.
I just all I could think about was protecting my stepdaughter.
And I went with the anointing oil, and I went
to her father's house and her and I together anointed
every window, and then I went into our father's room
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and then in his.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Closet where it was.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
And as soon as I walked in, it's like I
got sucked into this blackness the only way I can
describe it, and there is the demon. I came face
to face with the demon, the only time I've been
face to face like this with an actual demon in
this regard, and I am like flinking oen oil. I
have no idea what I'm doing other than I'm just
trying to, like try my best to do what my
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grandpa said, and he don't warm me. It was gonna
get louder, and when it does, you go with it.
But I just I just cast in and kept casting
it out in the name of Jesus Christ and pleading
the blood of Christ over my daughter and this household.
And this went on for like thirty forty five minutes,
I don't even know how long. And it was throwing stuff,
it was screaming, it was hitting things like nothing like
I've ever experienced in my life. And then just like clockwork,
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all of a sudden it was bright and then all
I felt was the sun coming through the window of
the bathroom on me. I could see the clothes hanging
up in the closet and was like I was back,
just in normalcy, and it never messed with her again.
Then that night I was in bed, woke up from
a dream late in the night, and God had given
me this dream, and he told me the word Jezebel,
and then he told me that that the demon was
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attacking her, trying to possess her. I can't remember all
the details, and she's not a Christian, she wasn't a follower.
And he told me how it came to be and
where and all that stuff, but don't go in those details.
But that was my we'll call almost introduction into Christianity.
And then I'm sitting here reading and the whole time
I'm pondering with God all the time. I'm like, Lord, clearly,
demons are real, these are your how come the Church
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isn't doing this?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
You're commanding this.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
And he was planting seeds in me and directing me
because why aren't we doing these things? And I start
the men's group and ministry part of our church back
and Hailey there with our old church. Then we move
here and I start a men's group out of my
house here, and we're in full time ministry. We're all
worried about his soul's Sol's souls, and we end up
doing a deliverance. I've never done a deliverance. I don't
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even know really fully what it is and understanding yet
other than you hear about it.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
And I just followed the Lord.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
The Holy Spirit kept speaking to me and telling me
what to do, and I did it and it worked,
and we end up casting out demons and followed this
just following his voice what he was telling me to
do in the moment. Come to find out, eventually I
meet Doug and tell him everything happened, and it comes
to find out I'm doing it. Probably ninety five percent
I did right there by just following the unction to
the Lord the exact way he does it, so about
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ninety five percent with a little bit of looseness, and
the man got set free. Tons of people experience it,
like all of us, just like this is the first
time we experienced this, and from there on out, then
it's just been wildfire. So for the last about two
and a half years now, I've been working in my
wife and I both in deliverance ministry, and it's I mean,
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we have people context us from all over.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
In fact, your your show, we had pastor.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
I had a pastor from Oklahoma reach out to me
after when I was last on wanting deliverance of course,
and pastors do need this and because they're still the beings.
And so for people who are hearing this thing, it's
no Robbie didn't see a demon in a closet. That
didn't happen. That's insane. Can I just remind you that
you can't read the Bible and not understand that demons
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manifest in front of people. And you can't read the
Bible and not know that Jesus Christ himself confronted people
who were demonically possessed. And you can't read the Bible
and not know that the demons knew that was the
son of man and when when he would approach, it
would shudder and the son of man would you had
to do with us? So you have to and I
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do too, have to remind myself this is biblical, that
these demons do exist. And we live in a spiritual realm,
and look, we are making war. You you don't have
You can decide to not make war, but it at
that point it's being made upon you. So you mentioned
something about investigation, and this is like investigation. Let's talk
about that in a second. There's there's all sorts of
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ways that I think Satan is oppressing the world. One
of them is that that phrase that many hearts will
grow cold, and right now hearts have grown cold for
the unborn.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Now that's changing. But you think about.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
The oppression it takes, the possession it takes to turn
people into baby killers. And I bring this up because
my friend John, he is Alan's dad at Alan Soaps,
and John continues, by the way, to go back and
get his cancer checked. He might have had a relapse,
and I didn't. I didn't see the full text this morning,
so it can continue to pray for him. That company
would not exist if John and his wife had listened
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to the doctors of the world. The doctors of the
world looked at the altar sand with Alan. They said,
this guy, this little baby has structural problems. He's not
gonna have a no good life. He's you know, just
let us kill him. That's what they said, let us
kill this baby. And John his wife said absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
This is our son.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
So he is now thirteen fourteen, just turn fourteen. He
can't speak very well. He's on the autism spectrum way
up there. But he invents these soaps. They come from
special moments in his life. When you open a package
of Alan soaps, for instance, the cedarwood jasmine is my favorite. Also,
my daughters, there's watermelon basil. You're going to take the
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scent of a special moment in a little boy's life,
and that's what you apply to your body. There's scent
free if you like. But Allen's is not just about
the soap, which by the way, is made in America.
It's made by a family with three generations of soap
making expertise. It is not chemical laden, it's not made
by slave labor and China. In other words, it's not
about the soap that's a byproduct. It's about employing Alan
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and Ian and Amy and other young people that the
world would have tossed out or have them stored in
government boxes.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
So decide to use a soap product.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
That stands with your values. It's alansoaps dot com slash todd.
Go there, get ten percent off all their product. It's
alansaps dot com slash todd. You spoke about deliverance being
a process of investigation, and what's that investigation like? Because
I mean everything starts somewhere, But what's that like?
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Uh, I want to let me close something on that.
I think it's going to help people for a second. Right,
And then we answer this question, right, someone that's an atheist, Right,
they would say that's not my God, I'm not gonna
believe that. Well, we're going to tell them like something
along the lines of, Okay, Well, just because you don't
believe it doesn't make it any year less real, and
you're still going to face and we know that truth
in that same vein. When it comes to certain things
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scripturally that maybe we don't want to believe, it doesn't
make it any.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Less true, right, deliverance, for.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Example, we can deny it, but it doesn't make it
any less true. And you would never ever get me
to give the credit of deliverance to anyone else but
God or to deny the fact of.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
What they are, because I believe the church is the way.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
It is right now because the Demonic, one of their
greatest friends or allies against the Western Church has been,
in my opinion, is naive, a lack of say, a
lack of understanding, and quite frankly, unbelief. Roman's fourteen twenty
three says, anything without faith is a sin. It is
a it is a it is a sin to disbelieve
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a word of the words and the Word of God,
including deliverance. And that's the reason why we are so
under oppression and attachment in the Christian Church, in the
Western world primarily.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
So okay, so that's a big topic we should talk
about the Western Church and and selective not just enforcement,
but belief and faith into God's word. So what's this investigation?
Like someone comes to you, they hey, I need to
be delivered. You agree to go through this process, run
us through sort of a condensed version of what that's life.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
So let me let me clarify. I do believe every
Christian needs some form of deliverance.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
You do.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
I do, yes, In fact, my wife and I especially
since we're in the battlefields of life in a different
way than probably.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Most, but we're all in the war. The word of
God is very clear.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
We're in a spiritual war, and you can't enter a
war without being a casualty of it somewhere, Like if
I drive my car across the country and back, I'm
gonna have to change the oil.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Right.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
For example, my wife and I we do self deliverance
on each other from time to time because we now
know what it feels like and what it is to
live free of oppression and attachment with it, just a
silent mind, right, and no fear, and all those kinds
of things. Well, then when we start doing things like
making sinmful mistakes from time to time and coming into
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agreement with things, we notice the change when all of
a sudden it goes from temptation maybe something out here speaking,
and it's gone to chatter in your head and things
start coming. We now know the difference so well and
so clear that I know when I have come into
agreement with something, knowing or unknowing.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Coming into agreement with something. Demonic witchcraft happens the church.
The church is form is doing witchcraft all over the place.
Manipulation is witchcraft. Rebellion is witchcraft. If you're rebelling your husband,
or you're senior pastors and so forth, that's a form
of witchcraft, right, that is in itself rebellion and manipulation,
which is rooted in witchcraft.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Right.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
So now again there's different severities all these things. So
if someone came up to me, it's like, hey, I
want to be deliverance. My wife and I have kind
of created new problems. There's sometimes I'll just know and
I just because I also, I'm gonna just say it,
I see in the heavenlies and what I mean by that,
I've been given the gift of discerning of spirits. So
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from time to time I do now get to see demons.
God shows me and when they're on people. Not all
the time. There are people that I've I have done
deliverances on where I never saw it until we were
in deliverance. So for whatever reason God shows in his sovereignty,
I wasn't going to know I've had. And my wife
gets heavy empathy, a gift of empathy where she can
feel where they are because guys, when the spirit of
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heaviness the wordy about tells us put on a garment
of praise, that spirit is a demon heaviness, right, And
I don't know how many times we do deliverances and
all of a sudden, the person's standing taller, their skin
gets flush and clear and looks healthy, and all of
a sudden, bam, It's it's like clockwork every time. I
don't even want to say this stuff that happens afterwards,
where people are like and what they the results are,
what they say, because I don't want them to know.
(36:14):
I want them to know they're supposed to do it.
So the way I didn't, I didn't construct anything, if
that makes sense. So I got that you don't want
to pre program people. You want them to their right natural,
God given response to this. So if you and I
were sitting here and you were starting the process of
deliverance with me, I would start asking questions because something
I also want to determine. First off, do you truly
need deliverance? And why do you think so? And then
(36:36):
second off, when I'm also looking within, this is a
few handful of things. First off, a person doesn't need
deliverance or at least in an area of their life if
it's heart issue, right, a heart issue can't we don't
need to do a deliverance that and we need healing.
So healing and deliverance are two different things, and oftentimes
they think it's one and the same, and there are
can be some crossovers, right because because curses happen, things
(37:00):
like that spirit of infirmity, for example. But when we
are in our investigation process, let's just say all the signs,
all right, we know we're supposed to do with deliverance.
Because what I'm really looking for is what's going on
in your life? What is going on that doesn't line
up with the word of God? So what lies are
you living out?
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Right?
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Anger? Spirit of murder? Are you struggling with suicide, addiction?
Speaker 4 (37:26):
You name it right, fill in the blink, adultery, And
that's the thing, is like even trauma happening, right, abandonment, orphanage, right,
if you didn't.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Have a father, huge, huge red flag, we'll call it.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
The other thing that God does is prophetically speaks to
me in those moments, and people who have been delivered,
and it's a lot, they would tell you these things
like it's real. God will tell me things that I
would never know right in the moment the Holy Spirit
directs me, and I always I say to them, I say,
holy ghosts, don't lie because some of the things I've
been told, given visions and given descriptions. I would never
know how it worn't for the work of the Lord
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working through me, because then now they're like, you know.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
That this has happened to me one time once what
you just described, and I could not believe the light
it brought to me.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Now someone speaking to you, or I was speaking to
a young woman.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
I gave a speech at a place and her friends
older friends.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
She she's good parents.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
You know, but she wasn't. Things weren't good at home.
So she was staying with some friends of mine, very
good Christian people, nothing weird. And they'd asked me, hey,
would you talk with her after the speech? She really
likes your podcast.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Oh? Absolutely, God should be an honor.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
And she walked up to me and introduced herself and Robbie,
this is just came out of me. I looked like,
I go, church is scary, isn't it. She went yes,
and I said, sit with me.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Church hurts. Yeah, how do you know this holy Spirit?
Speaker 1 (39:03):
I've ever met you? And she revealed a few more
things to me. And this girl's nineteen, she's how do
you know these things? I go, I don't. It's a
holy Spirit. And one of the organizers came over because
I was supposed to get back up on stage and says, hey,
can you come over her? This is important that I
looked at my God brother, I'm here to tell you
(39:23):
it's not. And I turned back and was talking to
this young woman. And in that moment God gave me
the words to give to her so she might consider
going back to church. She is back, she's active, she's
joined ministries. And I mean, Robbie, in fifteen seconds, I knew,
(39:45):
so I can relate to that. So you're saying that
in the process of delivering people, sometimes the Holy Spirit
delivers to you a detailed picture and you say to
a person, Hey, have you ever been through the following
trauma at a place time and this happened. You've got
to have people look at.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
You going, oh, are you a peeping tom like that?
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Right?
Speaker 4 (40:06):
Right, No, you're reading my mail essentially, right, what you experience,
that's called the spirit of knowledge. So God gave you knowledge,
insight into the person's life. Now what I want with
knowledge is wisdom, because wisdom now tells me how do
I apply this? How do I enter the situation with
this knowledge You've given me? Lord, So I can make
a difference because like with the flock. I know a
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lot about what's going on in people's lives, even though
they they don't always know that.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
I know, right, because God tells me.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
And it's not so I can be a jerk, or
sometimes it's not even so I can tell say something
to him. God doesn't even want me to release it,
and so he I know. And now I can minister
accordingly with grace and compassion and truth, right, and so
he Now I take that and wisdom applied to it
is minister to the person in such a manner that
(40:56):
they're not a hurt, right, and that you take care
of them more gently. And for example, in kind of
this vein, for example, and the deliverance, I'm just gonna
use it a person. My wife and I were doing
deliverance on the Lord. Clearly in the middle of it
tells me bestiality wow, right, And and I'm like, okay.
And because I have these moments where I don't want
but I know the Lord's boice so well, I know
(41:18):
when it's him that spoke, and he never lies, it's
never wrong.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
My faith and trust in God is through the room.
So you actually said to a.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
Person, oh, I came right, out and I said, look,
I said, it's gonna sound crazy, and I don't even
want to say this because I have to say some
things that I that that would be hurtful or offensive
oftentimes if it weren't for the fact that they're true,
because God.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Wants me to help heal.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
I'm a minister of the Gospel, and my job is
to help apply the freedom that God has for this
person and deliverance. But in order to do it, they
would need to be willing and wanting to be delivered.
They need to be already a Christian.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
They need to be.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
Ready to obey the word of God and give forgiveness
and things like this and believe that it is for them, right,
and some other parameters in that regard. But so I
say this and the person's like, they are just like floored,
and they're like, how did you know that?
Speaker 2 (42:09):
And I was like, holy ghost, don't lie. I told you.
The Lord tells me things and I have to.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
And then the person said, okay, that happened when they
were younger, this thing, right, I don't't go into details,
but and they said, when they were praying and talking
with the Lord like about this getting the deliverance and
needing it, and they were, and the Lord was putting
on their heart or whatever was going on. The person said,
and I am not talking about that. I will not
(42:34):
talk about that. The only way if I have to
address that, Lord, you have to bring it up.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Guess what he did? A brought it up, because you don't.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
People are so unaware of what is actually holding them down,
what is actually spiritually bringing them down. If the Church
was walking in the true freedom that God has for
them from deliverance because of the resources, in my opinion,
and what the Western Church has access to that others don't,
we would have faith that actually moves mountains. Even though
(43:05):
if you go to that that's a whole own story,
that doesn't actually mean it was a figure of speech
in the Hebrew.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
So but.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
The things that the Western Church would be able to
accomplish in the Lord would glow through it.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
My wife and I are able to live like the disciples.
Speaker 4 (43:22):
Literally we don't have paychecks, and yet everything we always say,
never miss me, will never miss a payment. And I
believe it's because of the willingness, the level of obedience.
We've been willing to walk out even when it doesn't
make sense and even when I don't understand. I don't
understand everything about deliverance. I don't ever understand everything about
the Word of God. But what I do know is
(43:43):
he doesn't lie. And just as Moses was like, Lord,
I'm not going to the Promised Land unless you're with me,
he would rather stand in the desert for forty years
with God there than be in the Promised Land where
it's supposed to be a blessing but him not be there.
I want to go wherever the Lord is, and if
he tells me I'm supposed to go there, and I'll
go there. And that's the thing, is what I have
found is when I go where we're supposed to go,
(44:04):
I get to meet the Lord.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
I have encounters with them.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
And one of the places you're supposed to go was
christ Fits and the stated conversation back to that, because
you are about to blow past the space you have
in the North Idaho area. So let's talk about that
here in a second. There's I've never gotten to introduced
to you to my friend Tim Krukshank and talked about
his company here.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
He was a Navy seal. Oh yeah you've told me
about Yeah, yeahyeah, great guy.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
And you get to meet him with it. By the way, dude,
I never did tell you I did that seal fit thing.
I got my butt kickick. I wouldn't believe my kidney's
shut down. I got pulled, medical pulled. I'll tell you
about here a second. So Tim is my friend who
runs bone Frog Coffee. He's man you talk about a storm,
just like Robbie. He lost his beloved wife Liz, and
Tim had helped her live a long long time past
(44:50):
a terminal cancer diagnosis just through love and commitment. And
so he had his first Christmas this year without his
beloved wife Liz. So he is, we'll pushing away on
the coffee company. And here's the deal. And I want
to just dress this directly to people who have bought
the coffee and have loved it.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
We subscribe.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
You're going to save fifteen percent for life on these subscriptions.
You're not going to run out of coffee. And it's
super easy. If like one month, you want to have
more of the dark roast you want to have, you
want to have the goat Locker blends, you can go
get that. You want the classic own Frog, go get that.
You want the light roast, just do that. Whatever you
can change, it super easily shows up at your doorstep.
(45:31):
And by the way, Tim still writes handwritten notes in
the orders. It might be his daughter who writes that
from time to time. But it's fifteen percent off because
this year I want to help Tim grow this base
of predictable revenues. Also this if you're subscribed, get the merch,
help us spread the word about this great coffee mentored
by Dave Stewart who created Sales Best Coffee, so the
(45:53):
coffee is legit and real. Tim hires veterans whenever he can.
He works with veteran owned companies and show off those
bags Man God Country Team right there on the label.
That's never going to change. There was that big, famous
veteran known coffee company named after the color of a.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
Gun, a long gun. And then a.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Guy needed his Second Amendment rights Kyle Rittenhouse and I
think it was the investors, the hedge fund guys who
run that company, now is understand it. They stepped back
and said, oh, we can't have that Second Amendment, so.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
They backed off. Tim's not going to do that.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
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Subscribe get fifteen percent off Bonefrog Coffee dot com slash
Todd So, Robbie, one of the places you were called
to go was christ Fit and when that happened, I
remember it started as a mobile gym, and then you
got a location and you're banging it out there. It's
donation based, so people can come in and donate rack rates,
(46:55):
like a decent CrossFit gym is one fifty to maybe
two hundred a month. There's classes, et cetera. But you
can also have people coming in who don't have the money.
Right now, you're telling me, you guys need a new location.
You need new donors, so you need a new North
Idaho location.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (47:11):
We have almost eight hundred members. Wow, we're only able
to service about three percent of them. And we're just
a small facility. We're three thousand square feet but we
have a breakroom, we have office, two bathrooms, and then
we have a physical therapist on site, doctor of Physical
Therapy Elevate.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Two to eight.
Speaker 4 (47:26):
Now he's separate up but attached to part of he's
also a part of my church. Yeah, and he has
an office plus a second one and then we have
a kid section because he just hired a second physical
therapist to work for them because.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
They're just so busy.
Speaker 4 (47:37):
So we're really operating with about twelve hundred square feet.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
Wow, So it's not a lot.
Speaker 4 (47:42):
And our classes range one might have four all the
way up to you know, fifteen sixteen is I'd say
ten or more is our average, especially on the five
thirty in the three thirty class, but we've had classes
with twenty nine people in there.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
You just can't move.
Speaker 4 (47:56):
Honestly, if it was if I had my perfect way,
it would just be six people class with a bar
because it's just tight quarters.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
We need a new location.
Speaker 4 (48:05):
We've had over sixty people led to Christ and the
Christ to the gym, yep to the gym. And that's
the thing is, even though I'm a deliverance pastor, my
focus is the gospel right. Salvation is the most important thing.
Let me make this very very very clear. I am
all about the Father's business and Salvation is the key
to everything. So our goal is to unite the church,
(48:27):
equipped the saints, and reach the lost, make Jesus famous right,
sharing the gospel through exercise and events and The result
is we've probably got currently going close to fifteen different
churches represented in the region already going their pastors, senior
pastors from other churches talking about deliverance.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
I've done deliverances on multiple pastors, senior.
Speaker 4 (48:44):
Pastors in this this who didn't believe in it, didn't
walk in it, came to me and asked for it,
and they and now they're preaching it and bring it
into their church. Why because they realized they were wrong.
They've repented for not believing things like this. That's how
I mean, it's so real. So but the real story
here for the christ Fit is we need a new location.
(49:05):
I have a location a couple of week blocks down
the road that we really want. I would really like
to have that. I think it's the perfect next step
size to really be able to bring in more of
the public and especially the actual current base that we have.
It's sixty five hundred square feet ideally I'd love like
ten thousand.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
But so we need donors. So how do people get
to you so they can do that?
Speaker 4 (49:28):
Christ Fit gym c d A dot org Again, christ
Fit jim c DA dot org is where you can
make donations through. There also Venmo, but you know, under
six hundred bucks on Venmo. And and but christ Fit,
Jim cdlorry come in check.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
So forth.
Speaker 4 (49:45):
Most of our donors are actually not even going to
the gym. They just believe in what we're doing or
they've experienced something through us, and so now they they.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Do it and donate. And many people that.
Speaker 4 (49:58):
Wouldn't be able to have fitness otherwise now have fitness
because we're really worried about everything, the whole package. So
every class starts with prayer, then I preach. We call
it devotional. And we have another trainer. Her name is Michelle.
She does the eight thirty class. She's also a very
gifted public speaker. She's in women's ministry and travels and speaks.
And then she's also a CrossFit Level one coach and
(50:19):
her name is Michelle Tufford and wonderful woman of God.
So she does the eight thirty classes. I do all
the other classes. And then we have a young man
from our church. Also we'll call it being groomed to
be a pastor from our church. He feels called in
nine years roughly because God put it on heart would
be ten years. And that's a year ago He's going
to launch a christ Fit in Australia and that's going
(50:39):
to have a church in it. We're also already God's
given me the vision for it, and we're looking at Athel.
We need property in Athel, by the.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Way, because we're a global podcast.
Speaker 4 (50:48):
I know a weird name, guys Athel. I know that
Idaho we have some weird names like Ratam and Apple.
But Athel, we need property. God's given me a very
big vision for that one. What I'm discerning right now
with our eldership is whether or not we'll have a
church in that one and if so, if I'm going
to be the senior pastor of it. If I do,
then I will back off and not probably do classes.
So in that vision, we're gonna have a Fruits to
(51:09):
the Spirit smoothie shop. I want to have hyperbaric chamber.
We're gonna have an outdoor gym. I want to have
a mountain.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
Next to it so you can bring your rucksacks and
get ready for hunting.
Speaker 4 (51:17):
A little kind of library and open mic and worship
stuff going on at the Fruits of the Spirit.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
I want to have a five.
Speaker 4 (51:22):
Hundred seat plus or more theater for Christian wholesome entertainment
for the community, and then that would probably we were
the church ends up being within it too, but that
we need property and athle to pull this off. I
know it's gonna happen. It's just a matter of who
and when and how, and God decides to do it.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
Like christ Fit, we started got to put us on
the heart.
Speaker 4 (51:43):
I'm sitting here trying to create, like all right, Lord,
And for like eight months, we're trying to get donations,
trying to do everything, and we're getting very minimal and
I'm like, Lord, I'm looking stupid out here. And then
all of a sudden, we get an almost fifty thousand
dollars brand new mobile gym by beaver Fit donated to us,
and so immediately I'm able to start in the parks.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
We are classes.
Speaker 4 (52:03):
The very first class we had three people, the second class,
which was the very Monday fallowing Monday, six people, then twelve,
and they kept doubling, doubling, doubling. Within six weeks, I
didn't have all the donations we needed. I just signed
for the new building, the one we have right now,
And as soon as I signed it, then we got
donations to move into the building. And I'm talking miracles
after miracles I could go into.
Speaker 2 (52:24):
But in order to fulfill this out and.
Speaker 4 (52:25):
Continue to change the community and make Jesus famous, which
I don't think you can change the community without making
Jesus famous.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
Uh, we need another building.
Speaker 4 (52:33):
We've we've had atheists, people from the lgbt Q give
their lives to the Lord in the building, Mormons, Catholics.
So it's been it's been wild. And then healings and deliverances.
Obviously deliverances. We have deliverances have just last week, a
member of ours that goes to Candlelight got delivered at
the end of the workout. It just happened organically. She
(52:55):
was like praying, like God would quiet her mind all
these things, and she ended it was so beautiful and
the whole next the other class, and mind you, these
are people from all different churches in the community. Everyone's
here and we're all in uncommon you know, and everyone
just lays hands on her and I start praying. We
end up I just follow the unctions of the Lord
and we and what she's already said and walking through deliverance,
(53:16):
and her immediate reaction.
Speaker 2 (53:18):
Is just how joyful she feels, how.
Speaker 4 (53:20):
Peace and it's quiet and that then earlier this week
see her and she's like, my in my head has
been quieter than it's ever been her whole life. She's
she's feeling peace that she has never felt. So she's
getting an experience the goodness of God that gets robbed
because the enemy comes to kill, still and destroy. So
and then healings. We've had, for example, two people come
(53:41):
to mind terminally ill, cancer, gonna pass.
Speaker 2 (53:44):
Fairly quick, pray over him, healed.
Speaker 4 (53:47):
A child was born immediately puting Niku with a whole
in the heart. We prayed over him and he was
healed very next day, taking off the feeding to very
next day, went home. Healing after healing, after healing, keeps
happening here, like God is doing crazy, crazy things that
I can go into, so many of them, so many
testimonies are coming out of here that they're just I
don't have to sit here and tell stuff. I'm grateful
I have a mic right now to say it. But
(54:08):
people are doing it themselves. God's literally spreading with himself.
So we have people show up. We have people calls
from different states asking for prayer, uh because.
Speaker 2 (54:16):
They're hearing about what God is doing in here. And
God and it's all him right God, Robbie Walden christ Fit.
It's christ Fit dot Cdachris Fit, Jim christ fit dot org.
And we'll put a link in the show notes right now,
so much all right, this is the Todd Herman Show.
Speaker 1 (54:31):
Please go, be well, be strong, be kind and walk
in the light of Christ.
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