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August 13, 2025 77 mins
In Part 2 of this electrifying episode, Tom, Andrew, and Jihi Bustamante journey even deeper into the modern intelligence labyrinth—where fact, fiction, and agenda collide. The Bustamantes not only expose sobering truths about personal privacy, data, and AI, but also provide an insider look at how CIA tradecraft and manipulation work at both the institutional and personal level. This half opens with practical spy tactics for processing information and protecting yourself in an age where digital privacy is vanishing. The conversation then pivots, as Jihi joins, to reveal how real-world targeting and psychological profiling unfolds inside the Agency. Together, they share the wild intricacies and emotional costs of undercover work—especially as a married couple raising kids, forced to navigate secrets and moral ambiguity both in the field and at home. Riveting stories from their new book, "Shadow Cell," bring espionage’s personal toll to life, from perilous captures to the difficulty of reentering “normal life.” SHOWNOTES 45:07 - Building an ACH (Analysis of Competing Hypotheses) and Thinking in Threes1:05:18 - American Mythology and the Cold Reality of Global Competition1:18:43 - Why You Always Have the Option to Leave1:26:11 - Real-Life Espionage: Uncovering Leverage, Risks, and Moral Dilemmas1:49:07 - High-Risk Missions & The Toll on Family1:55:26 - Gender, Manipulation, and Cultural Profiling in Espionage2:03:12 - Shadow Cell: From Book to Screen (What’s Next for the Bustamantes?) FOLLOW ANDREW & JIHI BUSTAMANTE:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/everydayspy/Twitter: https://twitter.com/EverydaySpyYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@EverydaySpyWebsite: https://www.everydayspy.com/ Want to learn more from Andrew? Find your Spy Superpower: ⁠⁠https://yt.everydayspy.com/4l9HmlM⁠ Read Andrew’s CIA book ‘Shadow Cell’: ⁠https://geni.us/ShadowCellBook ⁠ Follow Andy on YouTube: ⁠⁠https://youtube.com/@Andrew-Bustamante⁠ Explore Spy School: ⁠⁠https://everydayspy.com/ ⁠ Support Andy's sponsor Axolt Brain: ⁠⁠https://axoltbrain.com/andy⁠ Listen to the podcast: ⁠⁠https://youtube.com/ ⁨@EverydaySpyPodcast⁩  ⁠ CHECK OUT OUR SPONSORS Vital Proteins: Get 20% off by going to ⁠https://www.vitalproteins.com⁠ and entering promo code IMPACT at check out Allio Capital: Macro investing for people who want to understand the big picture. Download their app in the App Store or at Google Play, or text my name “TOM” to 511511. SleepMe: Visit ⁠https://sleep.me/impact⁠ to get your Chilipad and save 20% with code IMPACT. Try it risk-free with their 30-night sleep trial and free shipping. ButcherBox: Ready to level up your meals? Go to ⁠https://butcherbox.com/impact⁠ to get $20 off your first box and FREE bacon for life with the Bilyeu Box! Netsuite: Download the new e-book Navigating Global Trade: 3 Insights for Leaders at ⁠http://NetSuite.com/Theory⁠Shopify: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial period at ⁠https://shopify.com/impact⁠Hims: Start your free online visit today at ⁠https://hims.com/IMPACT⁠. ********************************************************************** What's up, everybody? It's Tom Bilyeu here: If you want my help... STARTING a business:⁠ join me here at ZERO TO FOUNDER⁠:  ⁠https://tombilyeu.com/zero-to-founder?utm_campaign=Podcast%20Offer&utm_source=podca[%E2%80%A6]d%20end%20of%20show&utm_content=podcast%20ad%20end%20of%20show⁠ SCALING a business:⁠ see if you qualify here.⁠:  ⁠https://tombilyeu.com/call⁠ Get my battle-tested strategies and insights delivered weekly to your inbox:⁠ sign up here.⁠: ⁠https://tombilyeu.com/⁠ ********************************************************************** FOLLOW TOM: Instagram:⁠ https://www.instagram.com/tombilyeu/⁠ Tik Tok:⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@tombilyeu?lang=en⁠ Twitter:⁠ https://twitter.com/tombilyeu⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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