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Speaker 4 (00:43):
Welcome to the show on this Tuesday, June eleventh. I'm
Ryan Gorman with Dana McKay, and we live on air
and on your iHeartRadio app. Coming up this hour, we'll
get the latest on the Israeli hostage rescue and ceasefire
negotiations when we check in with Jordana Miller, who's live
in Israel, in about a half hour plus. Former Trump
White House Communications Director Anthony Scaramucci.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
He's going to check in.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
He's got a new book out on lessons learned from
his infamously short stints in the Trump administration. But right now,
for more on the biggest stories making news this morning,
let's bring in our national correspondent Rory O'Neil. And Rory,
I want to begin with the Hunter Biden gun trial,
which is now in the hands of the jury.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
It is so the jury deliberated for about an hour yesterday,
so they'll get back for a full day of it today.
Keep in mind, there are three federal felony charges here,
two of them related to the paperwork that Hunter Biden
filled out to buy that gun in the fall of
twenty eighteen. The third is his possession of that weapon.
As we've said before, could bring a total of twenty
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five years in prison. That's not going to happen, but
that's at least available there on paper.
Speaker 7 (01:55):
It's unclear exactly.
Speaker 6 (01:56):
You know, it's tough to get a read on the jury,
especially in these federal cases. You know, they've had one
hour of deliberation. We think that if this drags on,
that's a sign that maybe at least one juror thinks
that the hunter should get a pass on this.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
I mean, this was a pretty quick trial, but just
think about all that unfolded. You had the ex wife
take the stand. You had his former lover who's also
the widow of his dead brother, who took the stand,
his daughter in some you know, pretty emotional testimony.
Speaker 8 (02:30):
Testimony that was supposed to help him, yeah, and kind
of ended up not helping him.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Right.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
So, just lots of drama and tension and awkward moments
in that courtroom. And now we'll see what the jury decides.
But the defense, they're basically saying their argument to the
jury was in the moment Hunter Biden was filling out
that form, just that particular moment, he didn't view himself
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as an addict, even though you know, most times addicts
you hear them say this is a lifelong battle.
Speaker 9 (03:11):
Right, Well, once an addict, always an addict kind of thing.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Yeah, And now he had just gone to rehab with
Hallie Biden again in August. Yeah, the widow of his
dead brother who he had a romantic relationship with, who
he also got addicted to crack. And she said on
the stand, she looks back in that moment, you know
when she was doing crack. It was a moment that
she really regrets in her life. I wonder if she
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also regrets her husband's brother.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Probably.
Speaker 6 (03:42):
I'm still laughing that the stripper didn't even make your
list of.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
The Oh yeah, that's right. I forgot there was a
stripper in there. Yeah, who was there? What was her deal? Again?
Speaker 4 (03:52):
She was the one who saw Hunter Biden doing crack
like every twenty minutes, and she said he would do
it like right when he woke up.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
It was like the version of Wake and Bake right.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
Right that if he wasn't sleeping, he was smoking crack
every twenty minutes.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Yeah, some people they go for a cup of coffee.
He was going for the crack BikeE now.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
To make the top three, but yeah, Well it's this
whole idea of jury nullification is being kicked around a
lot as well. It's a Delaware jury friendly state, tiny
tiny state. Biden Joe Biden was the senator there for decades,
so obviously the family has deep connections. You know, is
there one juror that's going to sit back and say,
you know, I could never convict a Biden and you know, oh, look,
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he's turned his life around let's give him.
Speaker 7 (04:38):
Let's give a pass on this one.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
If if there's just one jur that thinks that, then
this could be headed for a hung jury.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Yeah, I think conviction is most likely. Hung jury would
be the second option I would pick if I were predicting,
and then full on acquittal, I think is the least
likely option.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
But we'll see they might even you'd think conviction is
more likely. I do. I think this is a pretty
easy kit. Now.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Look, I know there's politics, and you know it takes
one and all of that, but I think there's a
pretty easy case to make. And I don't think the
testimony the ex wife, you know, Hallie Biden brothers and
dead brother's widow, I don't think that helps. His daughter
didn't help, and she was supposed to help. So I
think it was a pretty rough trial.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
For Callie and Naomi.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
It alsunds at the cast of nine to two one zeros.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
It really does.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
And there was that kind of drama during the trial.
All right, let's get to another story you're covering this morning.
We're joined by our national correspondent Rory O'Neil. Apple unveiled
something called Apple Intelligence. Now, is Apple intelligence gonna help
Siri because every time I go to her for something,
she didn't know what in the world I'm talking about.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
So we'll make her smarter.
Speaker 6 (05:51):
It will Well, Siri is going to have access now
to open AI's chat GPT, and that is really the
headline from this. Yeah, there's going to be an update
to the operating system for the watch and the iPad
and iOS eighteen is coming this fall, Okay, but I
think everyone is most interested in this relationship. This partnership
that open AI's going to have.
Speaker 7 (06:13):
With Apple using Chat, GPT and.
Speaker 6 (06:15):
Siri, such a partnership that it's got Elon Musk concerned.
He said he might even ban Apple devices from his
businesses if this relationship moves forward.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
I did see there were some features where you can
potentially hide apps, and now there's big concern that's going
to help cheaters.
Speaker 9 (06:36):
Well, of course it is. They're already pretty sneaky though.
Speaker 8 (06:39):
Well, and what about for kids too that have an
iPhone that then they can hide what they've got on
their phones?
Speaker 10 (06:43):
Right?
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Well, I think it was meant for, at least the
way Apple explained it. So parents can hide banking apps
and things like that, or Amazon so kids can't go
and order like fifty thousand dollars right stuff.
Speaker 9 (06:54):
Okay, yeah, well that would make sense. Yeah, and then.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
Jen Moji is getting an upgrade as well, so you
can generate your own emoji's veterant.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
That's what we need.
Speaker 7 (07:05):
In order to help to do that.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
And I also see saw the one thing that actually
did seem kind of cool, you could schedule tax I.
Speaker 9 (07:12):
Think so that actually is a pretty good idea.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
I want to send a text in the future, which
would be nice for those who constantly send me text waal,
I'm on the air. Maybe you could schedule those for
after I'm done with the show. That'd be a big help.
Rory O'Neil, our national correspondent with US this morning.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Rory really appreciate the update. Thanks so much.
Speaker 7 (07:28):
Thanks Ryan.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
All right, let's get through a few.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
More stories making headlines this morning, and we'll start with
Pennsylvania Senator John Fetterman recovering after a crash in Maryland.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Steve Greenfield has that report.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
State troopers in Maryland say Fetterman was driving an SUV
when he crashed into the back of a car on
I seventy in Annapolis on Sunday. John, his wife and
the driver of the other car were all taken to
the hospital for treatment of their injuries. Ftterman's office as
he suffered a bruised shoulder, handing that both a senator
and his wife are now at home recovering. Maryland State
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Police say the troopers have not issued any tickets or
citations of the crash as of yet.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
I wonder what the scene was like after the crash,
He figured, the driver of the other car has to
be like, who's this scrub who just hit mine?
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Right?
Speaker 8 (08:12):
We're in a hoodie and basketball shorts. And then you
find out he's a senator.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Yeah, he's the last person who could pull that. You
know who I am?
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Right, if he were to get in trouble, because if
they didn't know who he was and he said, I'm
a US senator and then be like you.
Speaker 9 (08:27):
Are like that.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
I don't think so, buddy. You're in a hoodie and
basketball shorts. I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Another story we're following this morning, the Manhattan district attorney
who prosecuted Donald Trump in his hush money case agreeing
to testify before Congress.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Liz Warner has that report.
Speaker 11 (08:43):
Alvin Bragg's office responded to a request from the GOP
led House Judiciary Committee to answer questions about the case.
Bragg's general counsel said he would be willing to sit
down for testimony, but indicated that that could only happen
after the former president is sentenced next month. Republicans have
accused Bragg of carrying out an unprecedented abuse of prosecutorial authority.
Trump was convicted of falsifying business records to cover up
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payments made to adult film actress Stormy Daniels in order
to cover up and alleged a.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Fair I think that'll be an important Congressional hearing because
there are a lot of legitimate questions to ask Alvin
brag about why he brought that case in first place,
aside from.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
The obvious political motivation that I think is clear as day.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
But I also have full confidence the Congress will manage
to screw that hearing up with all the grand standing
and all that kind of stuff and not get to
you know, the serious question.
Speaker 9 (09:35):
Oh yeah, it's going to be another total nightmare, total disaster.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
The real answers that I think the American people deserve
still to come this hour, we'll get a live report
from Israel on everything from the latest details on the
hostage rescue to where things stand with the ceasefire negotiations.
So stick around for that. I'm Ryan Gorman with Dana
McKay in for Michael Del Giorno this week. And right now,
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let's get to a trending story, another one involving tipping fatigue.
Speaker 9 (10:05):
Yeah, this one's nuts.
Speaker 8 (10:06):
A woman on Reddit was furious when she was asked
to add a tip to an order on a clothing website.
She said, now clothing websites want to tip, get the
bleep out of here. The store is called Gothic and
it's known for a t shirt that says tattoos are stupid.
They sell jewelry too, and at checkout there was an
option to leave, like up to a fifteen percent tip.
Speaker 9 (10:27):
And she's like, for what?
Speaker 8 (10:29):
And I guess it says that this is to support
the designer's talent. But isn't that what you're doing when
you purchase an item.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Right, that's the purchase?
Speaker 9 (10:40):
Yeah, exactly what are we doing here?
Speaker 8 (10:43):
I don't know, but that was really outrageous. So a
couple of people commented and said, like the audacity, and
people just can't believe that we are now being asked
to tip on a clothing website.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
So we were talking about tipping recently because some guy
went viral and he said his policy is if he
standing when he's ordering, he's not tipping. And we were
talking about that, and we put the clip of us
discussing that on TikTok and YouTube and Facebook and Instagram,
and you can follow us at Ryan Gorman Show if
you want to check that and more out. And I
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think what we're closing in on, like a million views
on TikTok to.
Speaker 8 (11:19):
A million views on YouTube, and I feel like it's
slowed way down and we're not going to get there,
and it's driving me insane.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
But what's driving all of this People have really strong
feelings about tipping and they are done with all the options,
done with every five seconds they're being asked to tip
for something that they're you know, not accustomed to being
asked to tip for. So people fed up and that
I hadn't heard before an online story.
Speaker 9 (11:43):
Yeah, clothing website, give me a tip.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
This is your Morning Show with Michael del Chona.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
So Aaron, you know you hear the horror stories tied
to retail real estate shopping centers struggling, malls closing.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
But restaurants are booming. How come, I know, how is.
Speaker 12 (12:04):
This even possible? But apparently they are. So you have
food services that have accounted for more than nineteen percent
of all retail leases last year. These numbers are pretty
incredible because traditionally property owners they really looked at restaurants
as high risk tenants. There's this super high rate for failure. Americans,
you know, don't love what they don't know, so if
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you're new, it's going to be a problem. But we
also are dining out more than we ever have.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
And this is in.
Speaker 12 (12:32):
Spite of seeing the red lobsters and the big boys
go into bankruptcy. In many cases, the fact of the
matter is low unemployment, rising wages, foody culture, and then
millennials who don't really get married or have children until
much later. It's all contributed to this increase in restaurants spending.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
And let's be honest, we like to eat as Americans.
Speaker 9 (12:51):
Yeah, I like to eat out because I don't like
to I.
Speaker 12 (12:54):
Like to eat a lot exactly. And listen, the average
household they spend nearly fifty three percent cent of their
food budget on food that is away from home. This
is a record high. And it's also you know, total
restaurant sales have never been highed. They're going to top
a trillion dollars this year. It's a five percent increase
in last year. And there's a retail real estate from
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many but one of the biggest ones called Pine Tree,
and they say they're signing new restaurant tenants at rates
that are much higher ten percent higher than the previous year.
So yes, inflation has juiced some profits for these places.
But at the same time, we like our food. Like
you said, we want to go out and the idea
that FOODI culture is not going away. You can thank
the Food Network for that one, but it's not going away.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
We like to eat out.
Speaker 12 (13:38):
We're going to continue to eat out.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
I also wonder if uber Eats, grub Hub, the growth
of all of that, if that's also helping these restaurants.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
I know there are some issues restaurants and how much.
Speaker 8 (13:52):
Yeah, much money the grub hub actually keeps about the
restaurant gets.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
That kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
But let me tell you what my restaurants spending. If
I actually had to go out to a restaurant, it'd
be way lower than what it is. Now because I
don't like leaving my apartment, I don't like going anywhere
being around people, So I'm constantly ordering off uber eats.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
I'm supporting restaurants, I'm just not going there.
Speaker 12 (14:15):
You're spot on, And actually it also has a lot
to do with this shift to suburban areas having more
people in them more frequently. This has been a big,
big transition post pandemic, because before you'd have a restaurant
in the suburban area and there's no way you're seeing
anyone there on like a Tuesday at twelve thirty. They
were at work in the urban areas. But that is
not the case anymore. People working from home have the
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ability to runt out yeah and just you know, grab
a bike or do this or that, And that's really
changed the way landlords view retail restaurants as tenants. They're
in a much better position and their probability of success
is higher than it's ever been.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
What they need to do is find a way to
combine eating in the restaurants it traditional like brick and
mortar shopping. I don't know what that would look like,
but you know what I mean, Like if.
Speaker 8 (15:06):
You're like a mall with a restaurant in it wells
shutting down.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Actually that's not good enough.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
No, it's like when you go into Macy's and you're
shopping for clothes, they're feeding you at the same time,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 8 (15:21):
Doing that at like publics where you can go into
publics and get a glass of wine you walk around.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Yeah, you got to combine the two and maybe that'll
keep some of those big stores open, those department stores,
right am, I onto something, Aeron.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
I feel like I've got an idea here.
Speaker 9 (15:33):
No, I don't think this is I'm sorry, I'll have.
Speaker 12 (15:35):
That idea, that's for sure not a bad one.
Speaker 8 (15:38):
I don't want to go try on clothes right after
I stuffed my face either.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Oh come on, you have a little chicken palm while
you're putting on a new pants.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
Oh yeah, you're right.
Speaker 9 (15:46):
That wouldn't be a good It is a terrible idea.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
That wouldn't be a good combination. Real quick, Aeron, we
only have about thirty seconds left.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
But wallet hub had a list of the best cities
for staycations.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
What were some of the top ones?
Speaker 12 (15:58):
Okay, this is gonna here. I'm going to give you
the top five and you guys tell me which one
is not like the others? You ready?
Speaker 5 (16:05):
Yep.
Speaker 12 (16:06):
Top ten cities for ast staycation number one Orlando, Honolulu, Cincinnati,
Las Vegas, and Tampa.
Speaker 9 (16:15):
So why what's going on in Cincinnati. I'm gonna have
to look into.
Speaker 12 (16:19):
This exactly real quick. Cincinnati. Apparently the methodology that Wild
have used it looked at uh outdo our activities, that
looked at the number of parks. It also looked at
the prevalence of affordable restaurant with four or five two
five stars and above. And this is why Cincinnati really
really came in strong, came in real, real strong.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Yeah, that's that's a list I wouldn't have expected Cincinnati
to be on. I tell you why they're going to
put that on like the sign when you went to
the city. Are very proud of they made a top
five all right. Our national correspondent Aaron Reale with us
this morning.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
Aaron, really appreciate the update, Thanks so much.
Speaker 12 (16:52):
Awesome. Have a good day, guys.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
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Right, we're in here with Dana McKay.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
In just a moment, we'll go live to Israel and
check them with the correspondent who's over there following all
the latest developments. One big development yesterday was the UN
Security Council adopting a resolution calling on Hamas to accept
the proposal for a hostage and cease fire deal.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
I guess I would say it's a.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Big development depending on your perspective of how important the
UN and what they do is. But let's bring in
Jordana Miller, now ABC News correspondent live in Israel, for
all the latest. Jordana, let's start with the development within
the UN Security Council. Is that something that could move
the meter at all with Hamas?
Speaker 10 (18:00):
I think that's a great question, and unfortunately, I don't
think it really has the power influenced to move the
needle that much. I mean, we've seen it used the
passage of the UN Security Councils being used really as
another pressure point on Hamas, and they've positively said you know, oh,
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you know, we are ready to implement this deal and
we're you know, we view it, you know, we take
it in high regard, and we're ready to start negotiating.
But we've seen Hamas do this before in many realms
of negotiations, where they initially voice a positive reaction, and
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then when the deal is actually given to Hamas's leaders
inside Gaza, that is, the leader of Hamas, yes, I've
seen why, the military leader, then we get a different response,
which is usually either no or yes. But so I
don't think we should take these declarations by Hamas, the
(19:08):
initial declarations. I don't think we should take them too seriously,
because often what they really want and what they're really
willing to do turns out to be quite different. Remember,
this proposal that's on the table now, crafted largely by
Israel but also with the input of the US, is
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a three phase deal, and some Hamas leaders have already
said that they do not approve of the language which
leads the transition from phase one to phase two very vague.
They want a definitive declaration to the end of the
war and the full withdrawal of Israeli true, even before
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all the hostages are released, and that of course is
not acceptable to Israel. Uh. And there's already you know,
some disputes about the redeployment or withdrawal of Israeli truths.
Israel is only willing to withdraw all its troops once
they've dismantled Hamas and they're no longer in control of
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the Gods of Strips. And that's a key part of
this deal because the United States and israel Is they're
they're essentially asking Hamas to step aside and give up
their control of the Gods of strips, and that is
something that Hamas so far has been unwilling to do. UH.
And that is why, unfortunately there's so much pessimism around
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reaching a seafire deal because Hamas is unlikely to negotiate
their surrender and step aside. So, you know, for all
the pressure that's being placed on the side, remarks by
Sector Anthony Blincoln, I don't think we're going to see
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the needle move much.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Is there any entity that could put serious pressure, real
pressure on Hamas to accept, whether it's this deal or
any other deal.
Speaker 10 (21:16):
Well, I think Cutter here would be the party, UH,
one of the mediators, the principal party that could put
major pressure on Hamas. They could, for example, kick out
Hamas's leadership from Doha. They could put you know, UH
financial sanctions on Hamas.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
UH.
Speaker 10 (21:40):
This would be a real pressure point. Only Cutter holds
those cards. They've they've said that they you know, have
made these threats to Hamas, but we haven't seen them
really follow through with anything yet. So we're you know,
but that is the party that you know, Cutters the
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one country that can really make a difference here. But
you know, they they haven't really moved on it in
action indeed, so you know, we'll have to wait and see.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
We're joined by ABC News correspondent Jordana Miller, who's coming
to us live from Israel. Final question for you, Jordana,
any new developments tied to the hostage rescue mission. There
was some new video that was released which again showed
just how incredible this rescue operation was. But if we
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learned anything more about what unfolded or the rescued hostages, that.
Speaker 10 (22:43):
Video, you know, so dramatic, right, the actual moments from
the go pro camera of the soldiers who courageously busted
through the room asking the UH, asking the hostages to
identify themselves, telling them We're here to rescue you, and
you can hear gunfire in the background, et cetera. We
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have learned that the vehicle that later took those three
male hostages, that tried to get them safely to the
Gaza coast where a helicopter was waiting for them, We
have learned that not once but twice their vehicle came
under a heavy fire and got trapped in gunfire. That
ISIL had to increase its air strikes in order to
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send special option to move those three hostages, not to
one vehicle, but even to a second vehicle. And that
is part of the reason why we believe the Israelis
believe An analysts now believe that the death toll was
so high that two hundred and seventy number that Hamas
put out. The other good news to report is that
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three of the four hostages have now been released from
the hospital. Noah Argamani, the young kind of emblematic figure
that represented the plight of the hostages because her video
the video of her kidnapping went viral right as she
was whisked off yeah Gaza on a motorbike, She has
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been released from the hospital. She will be spending there's
a Jewish holiday that begins tonight at nightfall. She will
be staying close by to be with her mother who's
terminally ill, as she is doing well. And then two
of the other male hostages were also released and they
will be staying in hotels for a few days to unwind.
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But that's good news. That means that those three passed
their initial health checks and even the mental health checks.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
That's definitely good news.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
ABC News correspondent Jordana Miller with an update for US
live from Israel. Jordana really appreciate it, Thanks.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
So much, Thanks so much, Talk soon, all right, and.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Real quick, I've got to play a clip of a
BBC anchor asking a former Israeli official about issuing a
warning before the hostage rescue mission.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
Listen to this exchange.
Speaker 8 (25:12):
It is appearing to be a high civilian death toll.
Speaker 10 (25:15):
Would there have been a warning.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
To those civilians for them to get out on time?
Speaker 13 (25:20):
Well, sure, of course, we cannot anticipate Israel to be
warning ahead of a raid to extract or to save hostages,
because then what the terrorist would do is to kill
the hostages, and that would defeat the purpose. So of course,
we cannot expect that.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
I thought it was very nice in the way you
put that, because what are you a moron?
Speaker 12 (25:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (25:43):
You idiot?
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Yeah, let's tell himas and we're coming in for the hostages.
Let's see how that goes.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Still become this hour, former White House Communications director Anthony
Scaramucci is going to join the show to talk about
his new book. Right now, let's get to a trending story,
this one involving a big beauty pageant scandal.
Speaker 9 (26:03):
I like how you put that.
Speaker 8 (26:05):
So last week, a plus sized woman named Sarah Milligan
was crowned Miss Alabama. Pictures of her went viral because
she just doesn't have the look of a traditional Miss
America contestant. You can actually see her picture on our
Facebook page at Ryan Gorman Show. Well, now she and
the pageant she won her facing some major backlash from
fans and former title holders, saying that she's not legitimate
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because the pageant she entered is actually called Miss National
American and they went and crowned her Miss Alabama, which
is confusing people because Miss America. According to a former
Miss Alabama for the Miss America pageant, says, the Miss
America pageant that's been around for one hundred right owns
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the Miss Alabama title, and so this pageant.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
She's like a D list pageant. Yes, and she's trying
to claim that she was in the big one.
Speaker 8 (26:57):
Well, it's not necessarily that she's trying to claim. It
is that the story went viral, and it's creating a
lot of confusion because the Miss America pageant is pretty
well known, and so now people think that they've kind.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Of gone woke with very Can I.
Speaker 9 (27:12):
Say lowered their standards?
Speaker 5 (27:14):
Yeah, you can say it.
Speaker 9 (27:16):
I mean that's what other people are saying.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
Okay, there you go. That's a good way to put it.
To save yourself.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Yeah, so a plus sized woman is not Miss Alabama.
Speaker 8 (27:27):
Miss America. She is Miss Alabama, Miss National American, which
is a pageant that nobody's ever really heard.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
And Miss America wants everyone to know that still to
this day, only the most beautiful women will be Yeah.
Speaker 8 (27:40):
Yes, based on the traditional standards of future traditional standards.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
Yes, Okay, all right, I think we navigated that pretty it.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
Good morning, guys.
Speaker 12 (27:49):
This is Jim a Pleasant New Tennessee, and my morning
show is your Morning Show with Michael Dale.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Jorna Bring in former White House Communications Director Anthony Scaramucci,
author of From Wall Street to the White House and Back,
The Scaremoucry Guide to Unbreakable Resilience.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
Anthony, thank you so much for ticket a few minutes
to come on the show.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
One thing I liked about this book is that you
don't run away from what, let's be honest, most Americans
think of when they think of you, that super short
tenure as White House Communications Director under Trump.
Speaker 14 (28:21):
Yeah, no, listen, I mean I left an impression that,
likely because of politics, is quite polarizing.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
You know.
Speaker 14 (28:28):
I laugh at some of the reactions I get sometimes
when I'm speaking in public or group. You know, you know,
it depends on the partisan proclivities of that group. I
can get various reactions. Some of them are friendly, some
of them are hostile. But my attitude is I want
to put things out there.
Speaker 7 (28:49):
Well.
Speaker 14 (28:49):
The book is frankly nonpartisan. It's just observations I've made
over the sixty years of my life about what you
can do when things are not going the way you
expect them to go, and how do you set up
your mindset and how do you go forward and build
your career. Or it could be a personal setback, professional setback?
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What do you do, how do you think well so
that you can go forward to have a splendid life.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
What's that like to be in a firestorm like the
one you were in? Just so much happened in such
a short period of time.
Speaker 14 (29:26):
Well, I think the lesson that your grandmother was trying
to teach you when you were a kid really holds
in a situation like that. And so my grandma used
to say, what other people think of you is none
of your business.
Speaker 7 (29:39):
And so if you're on the front page of the
New York.
Speaker 14 (29:42):
Post getting plastered, or you're getting lampooned on late night comedy,
or I think Bill Hayter played me on Saturday Night Live,
it's better to just roll with it as opposed to
get upset about it.
Speaker 7 (29:56):
And you know, listen, I did the opposite of what
many your people.
Speaker 14 (30:00):
Told me to do when I was fired. I went
right on those shows. If Steve Colbert invited me on,
I went on. I think I read mean tweets for
Jimmy Kimmel. I was on the Bill Maher Show several times.
My attitude is yet to own your stuff in life,
the good, bad and the ugly, uh, and and relax.
(30:21):
You know, there's a great line by mel Brooks that
I write in the book. Mel melt Brooks once said,
I think he always says it frankly, but it's a
great line.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
Relax. None of us are getting out of your life.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (30:33):
And I think it's just a beautiful way to think
about life. We're you're visiting.
Speaker 14 (30:37):
Do the best you can operate with integrity, and good
things will happen to you. And and and when bad
things are happening to you, sometimes certain things are just
out of your control, you know. And I never look
back on that time with much regret. And I do say,
as I point out in the book, and you're nice
enough to also point.
Speaker 7 (30:56):
It out, I don't hide from it.
Speaker 14 (30:59):
And I also, as it relates to that firing, I
hold myself accountable for it. I think it's also another
important thing in life. Don't blame others. I got fired
from the White House because President no longer wanted me
to work for him. It's just that simple something I
did cause him to not want me there, and he
was entitled to make that change if he wanted to.
Speaker 7 (31:21):
I don't hold that against him in general. Kelly or
anybody else.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
We're joined by Anthony Scaremoucie, author of the new book
From Wall Street to the White House and Back, The
Scaremocery Guide to Unbreakable Resilience. Look, we could sit here
and we could get your thoughts on Trump and Biden
and the election and all of that. Frankly, I mean,
I'd rather get some insights, something that you can bring
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to our listeners that not many people can when you're
sitting in the Oval Office, putting your feelings aside for
a minute of former President Donald Trump.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Just what was.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
That like being there in that room with him when
you were working there.
Speaker 14 (32:05):
Well, you know, I'll tell you quickly a very human
story about Donald Trump. I had done my press conference.
It was Friday, the twenty first of July twenty seventeen.
I walked back upstairs from lower press I went into
the Oval Office, past the Oval Office and the end
of the den the President's study, and he said to me,
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good job in the press conference.
Speaker 7 (32:28):
He said, but hey, let me ask you this.
Speaker 14 (32:30):
Are you in awe of the fact that you're here,
you know, in the Oval Office, here in this study?
Speaker 7 (32:36):
And I said I was.
Speaker 14 (32:38):
And then he said something very human, he said, you know,
the first day January twenty first, when I walked in here,
I felt the same thing. But trust me, there's a
lot of work to get done and you'll lose that
feeling very quickly. But in fairness, I never lost that feeling.
And maybe I was not there long enough. But there's
an awe and there's a majesty to the play. And
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by the way, it's way smaller than it looks on television.
Speaker 7 (33:03):
Right.
Speaker 14 (33:05):
I think it's hard to lose the law or the
institution of the presidency or the White House itself.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
Do you like sharing your opinion and being involved in
politics and the way that you are as a commentator,
including you know, all the incoming that you take because
of sometimes what you have to say.
Speaker 7 (33:27):
Well, you know, listen, I do. I can't say that
my family members love it. I mean, they're probably not
happy about it.
Speaker 14 (33:35):
I do get my share of death threats as a
result of my opinions. I think it's important as an
American though, in our democracy, to really focus on the
First Amendment.
Speaker 7 (33:47):
We have freedom of speech in this.
Speaker 14 (33:49):
Country, which leads the freedom of religion and all these
other great American.
Speaker 7 (33:54):
Values that we have. I don't know people that disagree
with me. I do not deem it.
Speaker 14 (34:00):
I try to focus on the substance of the argument.
Speaker 7 (34:04):
I try to focus on the sacks of the situation.
Speaker 14 (34:08):
And I'm offering my opinion based on my life experience
and also based on what I what I what I
saw both inside and outside of the presidency. And people
can dislike me for that. If they want to demonize me,
that's their choice.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Former White House Communications Director Anthony Scaraamucie, author of the
new book From Wall Street to the White House and Back,
The Scaremeutry Guide to Unbreakable Resilience.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
Anthony, thank you so much for the time. Really appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (34:34):
I appreciate it so thank you.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
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