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Welcome to the show. On this Wednesday, June twelfth, I'm
Ryan Gorman with Dana McKay and Chris Trenthin from our newsroom.
We're live on airon on your iHeartRadio app. Coming up
this hour, we'll get the State Department's reaction to hamasa's
ceasefire proposal response. Plus we want to talk to a
reporter who's in the courtroom for the Hunter Biden verdict.
We'll do that in about a half hour. Right now,
(00:59):
let's get to you today top stories. Good morning, Chris, good morning.
President Biden said in a statement he would accept the
outcome of his son Hunter's trial and conviction. Hunter Biden
faces twenty five years in prison with the three charges,
although as a first time offender, it's not likely he'll
receive the maximum sentence. Biden has said he would not
issue a pardon for his son if he was convicted.
(01:22):
I think Biden will definitely not issue a pardon ahead
of the election. If he were to lose the election,
would he issue one or commute the sentence on the
way out. I think that's a real possibility. If he
did win reelection, then I think he probably wouldn't do anything,
at least for the time being. I thought the Jerry
got it right. I said, I thought they were going
(01:42):
to find Hunter Biden guilty. There are a lot of
people You make it sound like Hunter's rooting for a
loss in the fall election. No, he absolutely isays, no
question about it.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
He's not voting for him.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, he's voting for Trump. He's a Trump supporter. He's
gonna wear a maga at around. Just wait, because if
Biden wins that he's stuck. Yeah yeah, just wait. Just
like I thought that Jill Biden was actually at the
courthouse kind of rotten for the verdict that came down
not necessarily though, and after he called it the sea work.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
I know, well, but they walked out of the court
room he was holding his wife's hand and then he
was holding Jill's hand.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I tell you what not to go off on a
tangent here, but one thing, I will credit Hunter Biden
for his wife. Well, she's very attractive.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
She is very attractive.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
But the Daily Mail did a story about how she
used to not dress nearly as well like older pictures
of Hunter's wife and she.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I think you showed them to me. I almost didn't
recognize her.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Yeah, no, she just the way she dressed. She just
looked awful.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
I mean she dressed very immature and like these baggy,
ugly clothes that didn't match. And then they did this
comparison saying that she's copying Malania Trump and a lot
of her outfits that she wore a court were very
Millennia like, very professional, very put together, and she looked fantastic.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
He didn't always look like that at all.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
See Chris, the wife is already on the magatrain and
now Hunter Biden's going to be on it too, I guess,
So don't judge a book by its cover, right right? Uh,
what's inside the counts? I just I just wonder you know,
you've you've seen all that has unfolded with Hunter Biden.
You've seen that he got his dead brother's widow addicted
(03:21):
to crack, all the drama with the finances and every
and and she's still.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
You know, sometimes you just don't know what idea.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
That's a good point. But going back to President Biden, Look,
I will credit him with this. He could have come
out and said, uh, this whole thing was unfair. Normally
you wouldn't see someone charged like this for this crime.
It's usually a charge lying on the form and owning
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a firearm wall addicted that's tied to another offence with
a firearm. He could have said the judge, it's a
Trump appointee, this is a Trump appointed special prosecutor, and
gone down that road. He did not do that, so
I will give him credit for that. Uh. I want
to play a quick clip of what one of the
jurors had to say after the verdict. Unlike in the
(04:14):
Trump Hushmaney case, those jurors we haven't heard from.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
We did hear from a couple of jurors, right, after
this case concluded yesterday, and here's what one of them
had to say.
Speaker 7 (04:23):
We didn't discuss a lot about Hunter's lifestyle, and like
I said, it was very it was very sad when
Halley testified. I mean that was for me, that was, Uh,
that was a very sad time because I I did
not know that Halley also got addicted to crack, So
(04:46):
I really sorry for that.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
It was that testimony. I know one of the juris,
I can't remember if it was that one or a
different one, uh, pointed out the Naomi Biden testimony as
being particularly heartbreaking and difficult to hear. So you know
those witnesses, and then of course Hunter Biden's own words.
I mean they played the audiobook. Yeah, he didn't take
(05:09):
the stands, but he kind of did in a way
where you've got him in his own words describing what
he was doing and his addiction and all of that.
That's really really tough to defend. Here's what Special Counsel
David Weiss had to say after the conviction.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
While there has been much testimony about the defendant's abuse
of drugs and alcohol, ultimately this case was not just
about addiction, a disease that haunts families across the United States,
including Hunter Biden's family. This case was about the illegal
choices defendant made while in the throes of addiction, his
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choice to lie on a government form when he bought
a gun, and the choice to then possess that gun.
It was these choices and the combination of guns and
drugs that made his conduct dangerous. Second, no one in
this country is above the law. Everyone must be accountable
for their actions, even this defendant. However, Hunter Biden should
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be no more accountable than any other citizen convicted of
this same conduct.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
You know, one thing that I was thinking about yesterday
that I don't think helped Hunter Biden. His defense team.
They went after Hailey Biden. So you've got the jurors
who are feeling bad for her because she gets in
this relationship and she becomes addicted to crack, and then
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they go after her. They also went after the ex wife,
They went after the stripper, calling her a liar. So
they're on the attack, you know, going after these witnesses,
and it seems like that just didn't sit well with
the jury. And then more generally speaking, has Hunter Biden
never come forward and said that he's you know, sorry
(07:02):
for what he put Haley Biden through, or what he
put his ex wife through, or what he put his
family through. Going beyond this trial and the tax trial
that's coming up, just you know, the shady business dealings
and all that kind of stuff. It doesn't seem like
somebody who has any remorse.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Yeah, I mean, I haven't seen him apologize.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Anything he's done. I know he's talked about his addiction,
and it feels like he's blamed his addiction for just
about everything. But you got to take a little bit
of responsibility for some of the other stuff that happened
when he wasn't as addicted as he was during some
of these periods of his life. So just some more
of my thoughts on the verdict, and again, coming up,
we're going to hear from a reporter who was in
the courtroom as the verdict was being read, so we'll
(07:43):
get that take on how that all unfolded. What else
we have going on this morning.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Chris.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Eight to Jikistan nationals with ties to ISIS were busted
by US Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials in conjunction with
the Federal Bureau of Investigation and a joint Terrorism task
Force that took place in three cities, New York, LA,
and Philadelphia. Now all eight crossed into the US through
(08:08):
the southern border, and they did so illegally, according to
a federal source. Now, at the time the Homeland Security
processed these suspected terrorists, they were fully vetted, nothing was flagged,
according to reports from Fox. Yeah, so there are a
lot of questions about what happened here. Look, we know
we've got a lot of people coming into this country.
We don't know exactly who they are, where they're coming from,
(08:30):
what their background is. But I thought it was interesting
and we were talking about this.
Speaker 8 (08:36):
I can't remember which day, maybe it was yesterday when
we were talking about the southern border, but there's this
policy for the San Diego sector where they kind of
have like an apprehend and release depending on what countries
you're from, and they exclude.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Yeah, that was yesterday and you said the stands, the stands.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yeah, so like if you're coming from you know, Asia, Europe, Africa,
those countries, they have one policy. But then they had
this exception, like they're not releasing you if you're from
the Stans And it was to Jakistan, Whuzbekistan, Kyrghyzstan, and
I'm like, oh, what's with the stands? And then we
(09:16):
learned about this and clearly there must be some intelligence
that we've got, you know, potential terrorists traveling to the
US from the Stans uh and they're trying to get
in and luckily they were able to apprehend them before
anything tragic ended up happening. Well, so that's one of
the questions Ryan, I mean, what were they going to
(09:38):
do here?
Speaker 9 (09:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:39):
You know, when we think of Isis, I think we
often think of the Middle East and what goes on
over there. These guys were from a Central Asian country
and had already committed a terrorist attack in Russia. You know,
they were part of that explosion in Russia that killed
over one hundred people. So the question is if they
were crossing into our border, what was their plan for us? Exactly?
(10:00):
And can either of you name any of the six
countries that border to Jakistan, m Howserbaijan? Well, uh no,
incorrect you.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Chris, You've got more you want to do? You want
to go for all of them?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
What about Borat? What's the one that Yeah, that's the one.
Uh No, it's it's it's Pakistan, Afghanistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrghyzstan
and China. Okay, so there you go. The more you know,
you remember little geography lesson this morning. Yeah, geography most
(10:38):
people probably didn't know existed as a country before we
did this report. All right, what else we got, Chris, Well,
there's some hot dog news from Coney Island that's hard
to swallow. Well done, Yeah, New York Post reporting Joey Chestnut,
the perennial winner of the annual July fourth Nathan's Hotdog
eating competition, is out of this year's Beef Battle because
(11:01):
of a deal that he made to represent a different
Wiener brand and this one doesn't have any meat, like
as in, where's the beef? Really? Yeah, he's representing impossible foods.
These are the guys who made the Impossible Burger, a
lab produced product that apparently has launched a new hot
(11:22):
dog and Nathan's. Okay, the contest, Yeah, is it's all
Nathan's or nothing? Yeah, you eat Nathan's hot dogs or
you're not in the competition. And let's be frank about this, Ryan,
the contest just will not be the same without Joey chust. No,
it's not gonna be the same. This is what happens. Look,
(11:43):
we've said it before. When you go woke, yeah, you
go broke, go broke. It went for.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Is he a vegan now or a vegetarian where he
doesn't eat meat at all, or he just took the money.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
I think he took the money. Yeah. I don't think
he's gotten vegan based on his history. But you know
the thing about that contest is it's every July fourth, right,
and it's one of those things where you know, you
see it and you're like, oh my god, this is horrible,
but then you can't stop. You can't look away. I
know it just watched the whole thing. It's just it's
like this fascination with just you know, when competitive eating,
(12:15):
it's a real it's a talent. It's a talent. Well yeah,
I guess that's kind of a talent. I would compare
it more to like when you're in heavy traffic you're
slowing down for an accident, not ready to watch, but
you just can't look away, as opposed to a sport. No,
I get it. Chris Trenkman with today's Stop Stories. Chris,
thanks so much. Thank you still to come this hour.
We're going to talk to a reporter again who's in
(12:36):
the courtroom for the Hunter Biden Verdicts. So stick around
for that. I'm Ryan Gorman with Dana McKay in for
Michael del Chorno this week. And now let's get to
a trending story. Kevin Spacey speaking out and getting emotional
during a recent interview.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Well, he probably should have kept some things to himself.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
So Kevin Spacey sat down with Pierce Morgan and said
he's basically bankrupt because of all of his legal bills.
He's had to sell his house, and he kind of
broke down in tears and admitted to some of the
things that he's been accused of. He kind of tried
to sugarcoat it.
Speaker 9 (13:07):
Listen to this being too handsy, judging someone sexually groping
in a way that I didn't know at the time,
They didn't they didn't want.
Speaker 7 (13:16):
Some people would say that that is criminal, that if
you growp people in a sexual way against their wishes,
that that is a crime.
Speaker 9 (13:24):
I agree that the word grope is a very odd word.
I personally, I have caressed people. I have been gentle
with people. That is the way that I am. You're
making a pass at someone. You don't want to be aggressive,
you want to be gentle, and you want to see
if they're going to respond positively. So I think the
(13:44):
word itself is not a word that I associate with
my experience.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I'm going to go caress some women around the office
after the show and see how that goes.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Yeah, I mean, I just picture him.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
I mean, he's gay, so coming on to young men
who want nothing to do with him. It doesn't matter
how gentle you are with yah want to be touched.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah, I know a few women in the office you
want nothing to do with.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Me, so awful, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
I'm not going to groote them. I'm just going to
caress them and see. Yeah, see if that gets me fired.
I don't think i'll be here tomorrow morning. I don't
know what to make Kevin Spacey, to be perfectly honest
with you, because he keeps getting off in these different
lawsuits and all of that, but then he admits something
like that.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Yeah, it was a really bad move for him to
admit that and to try to like sugarcoat it. Well,
I was gentle when I was touching them, and they
didn't want me to.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Like watch and he admitted that he does have times
to Jeffrey Epstein and all of that. So there was
a lot to unpack from that interview.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
This is Your Morning Show with Michael del Chona.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Brian Gorman here with Dana McCain. Now, let's go to
the hotline and bring in ABC News State Department reporter
Shannon Kingston with an update on how the State Department
is viewing hamasa's response to the Israeli ceasefire proposal. Shannon,
thanks so much for joining us, And first of all,
does the State Department have a firm grasp as to
whether or not Hamas accepted or didn't accept the proposal,
(15:09):
because it seemed like there was some confusion about that
over the past twelve hours.
Speaker 10 (15:15):
Well, good morning, Thanks for having me. The way you
officials describe as responses, it's not a clean yes, it's
not a clean no. It's actually what they were anticipating
but not hoping for. It's a series of amendments counterproposals
to the deal that was on the table, and there's
some major kind of critical questions about whether they'll be
able to bridge this gap. So that's what they're huddling
(15:37):
with negotiators right now and trying to figure out if
they can move both sides closer to the middle, or
if this is a deal that's dead in the water.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Yeah, because we heard last night Israel came out and
Israeli official was quoted as saying that Hamas had rejected
the deal, and I guess you can take it that way,
although it sounds like it was yet another counter par
posal from Hamas, which we've seen time and time again
throughout this process.
Speaker 10 (16:05):
That's right, and the move in Israel is upset right now.
They were definitely hoping for a clean yes, because from
their views, they've already given up a lot. They have
really made some compromises to see Hamasa's position in. US
officials say the same thing. But what we've also seen
over and over again is that Israel will come out
with a strong response to one of these counter offers
(16:28):
from Hamas. We'll take a couple of days, I'm mull
it over, and then they'll be willing to come back
to the table and you know, try to see if
they can cut a deal. But that remains to be seen.
It's definitely something that we've seen officials already engaging with Israel.
There's really counterparts right now to try to get them
to be willing to do that.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
ABC News State Department reporter Shannon Kingston with the latest. Shannon,
really appreciate the update, Thanks so much, Thank you. And
again I go back to something I've been saying over
and over again. I sound like a broken record at
this point, but Israel is not going to allow Hamas
to remain in control in Gaza. Hamas does not want
to relinquish that control. That is the sticking point right there.
(17:10):
And I don't blame Israel at all for their position.
I think they need to stick to that position after
what happened on October seventh. But that's the hurdle to
getting any kind of a deal. Even as Israel has
dropped the number of living hostages, they're willing to return
get returned for a deal. It's just a very frustrating
situation over there. Hi, It's Michael.
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Speaker 2 (17:46):
So yesterday Hunter Biden found guilty in his federal firearms trial,
and shortly after the verdict, I spoke to Axios national
political reporter Alex Thompson, who's been in the courtroom for
the trial. We actually talked to him on the show yesterday.
I thought he offered some really great insight into the
witnesses and just being there, seeing their reaction, seeing the
(18:09):
jury's reaction to what they had to say. So I
wanted to get his take on how things unfolded in
the courtroom when the verdict was read. Here's what he
told me.
Speaker 11 (18:18):
You know, it sort of.
Speaker 12 (18:19):
Came as a surprise just because the jurors had only
deliberated for about three hours total across two days.
Speaker 11 (18:27):
You know, sort of in the.
Speaker 12 (18:28):
Reporter circle sometimes you usually place guesses or bets about
how long it's going to take, and most people were
thinking at least until the afternoon. The fact that it
was in the morning caught people by surprise. And the
clearest example of that is that a lot of Hunter's
family wasn't even there for the reading of the verdicts
because they were not on site that included first lady
(18:50):
Jill Biden. They all missed the reading of the verdict.
Lots of family friends did too. I can tell you
that when the verdict was read, the Hunter Biden was
almost like like a picture. He basically did not move
until the very very end. He just nodded his head
a few times. He hugged his lawyers, he kissed his wife,
and he walked right out.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Danna, were you surprised at how quickly the verdict came back?
Speaker 4 (19:14):
I was, yeah. When I saw it pop up, I
was like, oh my.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Gosh, already yeah again. I thought it was going to
be a guilty verdict. But I was a little surprised
that within three hours they made that decision. Here's what
Alex Thompson had to say about the reaction among jurors
when the verdict was read.
Speaker 12 (19:33):
It did not seem to me the jury had any
sense of gatrip or animus. You know, a lot of
the jurors just seemed to feel sort of bad about
the whole the whole thing they you know, I think
in many ways, everything that was laid out, even though Hunter,
you know, a privocally, I think it was proven or sessified,
(19:54):
did a lot of really bad things. I think everyone
just sort of felt sorry for him. It seemed to
me this is just need sort of reading bases. You know,
I don't know what they're really thinking, but you know,
if you have also spoken out to some media outlets
and they just sort of out the whole thing as
attract And.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
That's essentially what we heard from jur number ten. If
you missed the clip that we played earlier, this was
his response when he was asked on CNN about Hunter
Biden's lifestyle.
Speaker 7 (20:20):
We didn't discuss a lot about Hunter's lifestyle, and like
I said, it was very It was very sad when
Halley testified. I mean that was for me, that was
that was a very sad time because I I did
not know that Haley also got addicted to crack, So
(20:42):
I really felt sorry for that, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Putting aside the Bidens and Hunter Biden who he is,
and even putting aside the crimes that were committed which
I thought he was guilty of. When you just look
at this story that we heard there in the courtroom
from these witnesses, it is sad. I mean, how many
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lives were negatively impacted by his addiction, Whether it's Halle Biden.
She got addicted involved with him, Yeah, his ex wife
and what she went through. And then of course his
daughter testifying about the struggles that she had because of
his addictions.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
Yeah, just wanting to see her dad and him kind
of just blowing her off because he was too busy
doing drugs.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Right, So you can understand, like the general feeling among
the jury, it's just it's an awful story. Uh, it's
it's a tragic story for somebody who were involved. Now,
I asked Alex Thompson again, the Axios National political reporter
who was in the courtroom for the reading of the verdict,
if the expectation was that the verdict was going to
(21:52):
go one way after deliberations ended so quickly.
Speaker 11 (21:57):
Absolutely. I mean the evidence was overwhelming.
Speaker 12 (22:00):
And go back to the law says that you that
when you buy a gun, you're asked if you're an
unlawful uture of drugs, and the evidence was overwhelming that
he was an unlawful user of drugs and an addict
of crack cocaine when he bought the gun.
Speaker 11 (22:16):
Now they're going to try to appeal it, including.
Speaker 12 (22:18):
On Second Amendment grounds that sort of rules like these
questions like these are unconstitutional because of the Second Amendment,
which is, you know, in some ways at odds, you know,
loosening gun regulations a little bit at odds with his
stat's priorities. But you know, that's that's the weird situation
we find ourselves in.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
And the Second Amendment issue, which would have been the
better angle for the defense to take as opposed to
just in that moment when he was filling out the
form he didn't think he was an addict. I mean,
that seemed ridiculous to me and to find common sense.
But the Second Amendment angle would be should someone be
prevented from owning a gun for self defense if they're
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addicted to a drug, even you know, marijuana, something like that.
That would have been a stronger case. I don't think
this appeal has as good of a chance at having
an impact on the verdict as what we're going to
see with the Trump hush money trial appeal. But that
Second Amendment question, I think is just more generally speaking,
(23:19):
pretty interesting. I also asked Alex Thompson about how Wilmington
residents reacted to the trial happening there.
Speaker 12 (23:28):
It was interesting, actually didn't feel as the center of
attention at all in the town.
Speaker 11 (23:32):
It very much felt like it was only the center
of attentions.
Speaker 12 (23:34):
But the reporters that were countered there, yeah, they were
sort of parachuting in. And you know, it was really
striking that so many people in Boomington were just like.
Speaker 11 (23:43):
Oh, yeah, like oh I heard about that trial. It
was not the circus that certainly the trial was.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Again, that was Alex Thompson, Axios national political correspondent, who
was in the courtroom for the Hunter Biden gun trial.
And I also thought that was pretty fascinating because I
don't I think Wilmington's pretty small.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Yeah, you would think that a big deal, the sign
the president on trial. Yeah, people would be all into
it and whatever. I guess that really care.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Earlier in the show, we talked to News Nation legal
analyst Jesse Weber to get his thoughts on the trial
and the verdicts, and I want to play you a
couple of clips because I thought his analysis was really good.
And one moment that we spent some time on were
the reasons that this conviction ended up happening.
Speaker 13 (24:30):
Some of the worst evidence against Hunter Biden was from
Hunter Biden his own text messages suggesting he was looking
for drugs around the time of the gun purchase, the
idea of his own words from his memoir him talking
about smoking cracks.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
But it wasn't just that.
Speaker 13 (24:47):
It was the testimony of those who were in hunter
Biden's lives. In hunter Biden's life, those closest to him,
who said they observed him as a drug abuser, who
observed this use of drugs for an ongoing period before, during,
and after this gun purchase, drug residue found in his car.
So it didn't take jurors that much of a leap
(25:08):
to say, while we can't stay definitively he might have
been doing drugs the other day he bought the gun.
As the prosecution argued, and argued correctly, he was actively
engaged in drugs at this period of time. And moreover,
he knew that he was abusing drugs and was an addict.
After all, he had gone to rehab, so he understood
(25:30):
what his addiction was. He couldn't make the argument as
much as his defense counsel suggested that he didn't knowingly
violate the law, he didn't see himself as a drug user,
because all the evidence was suggested otherwise.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
There's a mountain of evidence as high as Salming. Yeah,
as as the mountain of crack and Hunter Baden was
in possession of. I mean, let's be honest. I also
asked Jesse Weber, again NewsNation legal analyst, about the most
compelling witness testimony that took place during the trial.
Speaker 13 (25:59):
I think you talk about his former love interests talking
about observing him doing drugs in and around that period
of time. That was the key, That was the key
for the prosecution. And I will also say that Hally
Bioden Holly got in. Seeing this drug residue in his
car after the gun purchase was particularly problematic for Hunter Biden,
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But in totality it added to the overall narrative that
he was using drugs, knew he knew himself that he
was a drug abuser. And again, I think in totality
and looking at that, it was easy for the jury
to make that conclusion.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
And then finally, because you're going to see a lot
of headlines on a Beden faces up to twenty years
in prison and all of that, realistically, what is he
looking at in terms of sentencing? This is what Jesse
Weber had to say.
Speaker 13 (26:50):
Is there a possibility that Hunter Biden could be sentenced
to prison yet, but it'll probably be more something like
fifteen to twenty one months in prison. If that, there
is a chance that he could also be sentenced to probation.
Remember these de felonies, the federal felonies serious charges. Nonetheless,
there is potential he could face prison time. Now to
(27:10):
be clear about that, sentencing would have happened for about
four months. If he is sentenced to prison, there's also
a question about whether he would have to surrender and
report to prison at a later date, not that he
would have to lamand himself into custody at that day
of sentencing. So it becomes a question of what the
sentence will be and when he will actually have to
serve it.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
And still to come to this how We're going to
check out with our White House correspondent John Decker for
his take on the Hunter Biden guilty verdict, So stick
around for that. I'm Ryan Gorman with Dana McKay in
for Michael Del Journo this week. And now let's get
to a trending story involving Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
Yes yesterday, Team USA officially announced the basketball roster and
the white Lotus star Abby Plaza.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Named this team in a video.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
And what really caught people's attention and I think ticked
people off even more out the fact that Caitlyn Clark,
you know, isn't on the team, is that she started
the video by saying, not sure if you've heard, but
women's basketball is having a moment.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
And it's not about to end. And then she names all.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
These players who made the team, but not Caitlyn Clark,
the one who's at the center of women's basketball having
a moment.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Yeah, why women's basketball having a moment.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
I wonder because of Caitlin Clark, who's not on the team.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
So the response is to this video.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
All across Team USA social media, it was all backlash.
It was all people mad that Caitlyn Clark is not
on the team. One woman even said, after thirty years
of being a die hard Women's USA basketball fan, I
will be cheering for Japan this year. They have no
integrity not having her on the team. Another person said
(28:48):
the best player in the world was left out because
of jealousy and racism. This sad, I mean, just all
of the comments across all of their social media was
just all about how mad people are that Caitlyn Clark
did not make the team.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yeah, people have some strong feelings. I don't know about
rooting for another country she's not on the team. Yeah,
And that's what I love about the Olympics this. It
really doesn't matter what the sport is, what you're watching,
you just know who to root for. It is root
for TSA. Look, I don't really care all that much
about this. I just think it would have been better
for women's basketball. And you could have made the case
(29:21):
to put Caitlin Clark on the team if she were
on the team, because that's what people are tuning in
for it these days. I mean, the attendance numbers show it,
the ratings show it. I just think it would have
been a better move for the sport. But you know,
I'm gonna keep rooting for Team USA regards exactly. I'm
Lenny McGill McGill's world famous block store, and my morning
(29:42):
show is Your Morning Shoe with Michael del Jorno Brian
Gorman here with Dana McKay. President Biden heading to the
G seven summit in Italy. But more importantly, our very
own White House correspondent John Decker is headed to the
G seven summit in Italy. John, thanks how much for
taking a few minutes to come on show with us
this morning. Before we get to a preview of the summit,
(30:03):
I want to go back to the events that unfolded yesterday.
Hunter Biden's conviction in the federal firearms trial comes any
surprise to you.
Speaker 14 (30:14):
No, it doesn't, Ryan, You and I have been speaking
about this during this week long trial. There was just
devastating testimony that was given during the course of this
week long trial by Hunter Biden's ex wife, by a
former girlfriend, by a sister in law, all of whom
had relationships with Hunter Biden, and all of whom recounted
the level of his substance abuse that they witnessed during
(30:37):
the course of their relationships. So that's just devastating testimony
that you can undo if you're a defense lawyer. So
not surprised, I can think. The only surprising thing always
is the duration of deliberations, only three hours to come
to guilty verdicts on all three of those charges.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
In terms of any potential political fallout from all all
of this, I don't think we're likely going to see
any kind of movement in the polls or anything like
that based on Hunter Biden being found guilty.
Speaker 14 (31:10):
To you, no, I don't you know. It's counterintuitive, I
think in the sense that obviously Hunter Biden himself, which
would have much preferred an acquittal associated with this criminal trial.
But for President Joe Biden, you know, the argument or
the narrative that could potentially have been used against President
(31:33):
Biden if there was an acquittal was two tiers of justice.
You know, if you had Donald Trump convicted in his
trial and Hunter Biden getting off, that's not what happened.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
You know.
Speaker 14 (31:42):
You have the former president convicted on those thirty four
counts in that Manhattan case brought by Alvin Bragg, and
Hunter Biden convicted three counts federal court. So they're each
facing sentencing for president. For the former president, we're talking
about just a few weeks from now, just before the
Republican National Convention, when Judge Wan Mrshan will hand down
(32:05):
a sentence in that case. And then four months from
now is when the judge presiding over Hunter Biden's case
will hand down her sentence for Hunter Biden for these
guilty verdicts, and we know what the maximum penalty is,
he's not going to get the maximum. I think it's
more likely that we see a very light penalty imposed
upon Hunter Biden, maybe even probation.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
We're joined by our White House correspondent, John Decker right now,
who's overseas for the G seven summit. So let's talk
about the summit. What's on the agenda.
Speaker 14 (32:37):
Well, the top priority for G seven leaders the President
arrives late this evening is the issue of the war
in Ukraine. That's been a top priority for the past
two and a half years during these annual meetings, since
Russia invaded Ukraine back in February of twenty twenty two.
President Biden is going to be pushing his G seven
counterparts to sign off on a proposal of his to
(33:01):
use the interest of Russian frozen assets in financial institutions
here in Europe to be used as collateral for providing
up to fifty billion dollars in new aid for Ukraine
to be used in the war effort, to be used
in reconstruction. That will be the primary focus during this
three day summit.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
We have also heard reports that President Biden is going
to meet with Ukrainian President Voladimir Zelenski I believe tomorrow,
and there could be a news conference as well. So
that goes right in line with what you were saying
Ukraine being a big priority there at the summit.
Speaker 14 (33:37):
That's right, Ryan. So there will be a bilateral meeting
that President has on the schedule. It's the only bilateral
meeting that right now as things stand on his schedule.
That's with President Zelenski. There is going to be a
joint press conference that likely, Ryan, is the first opportunity
that we'll have to ask the President questions regarding the
conviction of Hunter Biden, his son. I don't think that
(33:59):
we're going to see him make any remarks before boarding
Air Force Swam, which is happening within the next hour.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Nor White House correspondent John Decker with US John, appreciate
the update, Thanks so much.
Speaker 14 (34:09):
Thank you, Bye. Roan.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
All right, before we wrap up, I also want to
note we just got some inflation data that came in.
The Consumer Price Index report came in and it's actually
decent news. Uninflation cooled a bit in the month of May,
really led by gas prices. May also saw the lowest
monthly inflation in more than a year. And then core inflation,
(34:32):
which is something the Federal Reserve looks more at that
declined to three point four percent year over year in May,
the lowest since April of twenty twenty one. So again, look,
there are a couple different ways to view this. If
you're looking at this in the framework of whether or
not the Federal Reserve will lower interest rates at some
point this year, well this is good news for that possibility,
(34:55):
although I don't think it's going to happen, you know,
in the immediate near future. Looking at this and saying, well,
everything's still costing me a fortune, well yeah, I mean
the cumulative effect of inflation still impacting Americans and that's
not going to change anytime soon either. That's going to
do it for us. We're all in this together.
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Speaker 2 (00:38):
Welcome to the show. On this Wednesday, June twelfth, I'm
Ryan Gorman with Dana McKay and Chris Trenthin from our newsroom.
We're live on airon on your iHeartRadio app. Coming up
this hour, we'll get the State Department's reaction to hamasa's
ceasefire proposal response. Plus we want to talk to a
reporter who's in the courtroom for the Hunter Biden verdict.
We'll do that in about a half hour. Right now,
(00:59):
let's get to you today top stories. Good morning, Chris, good morning.
President Biden said in a statement he would accept the
outcome of his son Hunter's trial and conviction. Hunter Biden
faces twenty five years in prison with the three charges,
although as a first time offender, it's not likely he'll
receive the maximum sentence. Biden has said he would not
issue a pardon for his son if he was convicted.
(01:22):
I think Biden will definitely not issue a pardon ahead
of the election. If he were to lose the election,
would he issue one or commute the sentence on the
way out. I think that's a real possibility. If he
did win reelection, then I think he probably wouldn't do anything,
at least for the time being. I thought the Jerry
got it right. I said, I thought they were going
(01:42):
to find Hunter Biden guilty. There are a lot of
people You make it sound like Hunter's rooting for a
loss in the fall election. No, he absolutely isays, no
question about it.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
He's not voting for him.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, he's voting for Trump. He's a Trump supporter. He's
gonna wear a maga at around. Just wait, because if
Biden wins that he's stuck. Yeah yeah, just wait. Just
like I thought that Jill Biden was actually at the
courthouse kind of rotten for the verdict that came down
not necessarily though, and after he called it the sea work.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
I know, well, but they walked out of the court
room he was holding his wife's hand and then he
was holding Jill's hand.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I tell you what not to go off on a
tangent here, but one thing, I will credit Hunter Biden
for his wife. Well, she's very attractive.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
She is very attractive.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
But the Daily Mail did a story about how she
used to not dress nearly as well like older pictures
of Hunter's wife and she.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I think you showed them to me. I almost didn't
recognize her.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Yeah, no, she just the way she dressed. She just
looked awful.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
I mean she dressed very immature and like these baggy,
ugly clothes that didn't match. And then they did this
comparison saying that she's copying Malania Trump and a lot
of her outfits that she wore a court were very
Millennia like, very professional, very put together, and she looked fantastic.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
He didn't always look like that at all.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
See Chris, the wife is already on the magatrain and
now Hunter Biden's going to be on it too, I guess,
So don't judge a book by its cover, right right? Uh,
what's inside the counts? I just I just wonder you know,
you've you've seen all that has unfolded with Hunter Biden.
You've seen that he got his dead brother's widow addicted
(03:21):
to crack, all the drama with the finances and every
and and she's still.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
You know, sometimes you just don't know what idea.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
That's a good point. But going back to President Biden, Look,
I will credit him with this. He could have come
out and said, uh, this whole thing was unfair. Normally
you wouldn't see someone charged like this for this crime.
It's usually a charge lying on the form and owning
(03:52):
a firearm wall addicted that's tied to another offence with
a firearm. He could have said the judge, it's a
Trump appointee, this is a Trump appointed special prosecutor, and
gone down that road. He did not do that, so
I will give him credit for that. Uh. I want
to play a quick clip of what one of the
jurors had to say after the verdict. Unlike in the
(04:14):
Trump Hushmaney case, those jurors we haven't heard from.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
We did hear from a couple of jurors, right, after
this case concluded yesterday, and here's what one of them
had to say.
Speaker 7 (04:23):
We didn't discuss a lot about Hunter's lifestyle, and like
I said, it was very it was very sad when
Halley testified. I mean that was for me, that was, Uh,
that was a very sad time because I I did
not know that Halley also got addicted to crack, So
(04:46):
I really sorry for that.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
It was that testimony. I know one of the juris,
I can't remember if it was that one or a
different one, uh, pointed out the Naomi Biden testimony as
being particularly heartbreaking and difficult to hear. So you know
those witnesses, and then of course Hunter Biden's own words.
I mean they played the audiobook. Yeah, he didn't take
(05:09):
the stands, but he kind of did in a way
where you've got him in his own words describing what
he was doing and his addiction and all of that.
That's really really tough to defend. Here's what Special Counsel
David Weiss had to say after the conviction.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
While there has been much testimony about the defendant's abuse
of drugs and alcohol, ultimately this case was not just
about addiction, a disease that haunts families across the United States,
including Hunter Biden's family. This case was about the illegal
choices defendant made while in the throes of addiction, his
(05:48):
choice to lie on a government form when he bought
a gun, and the choice to then possess that gun.
It was these choices and the combination of guns and
drugs that made his conduct dangerous. Second, no one in
this country is above the law. Everyone must be accountable
for their actions, even this defendant. However, Hunter Biden should
(06:12):
be no more accountable than any other citizen convicted of
this same conduct.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
You know, one thing that I was thinking about yesterday
that I don't think helped Hunter Biden. His defense team.
They went after Hailey Biden. So you've got the jurors
who are feeling bad for her because she gets in
this relationship and she becomes addicted to crack, and then
(06:41):
they go after her. They also went after the ex wife,
They went after the stripper, calling her a liar. So
they're on the attack, you know, going after these witnesses,
and it seems like that just didn't sit well with
the jury. And then more generally speaking, has Hunter Biden
never come forward and said that he's you know, sorry
(07:02):
for what he put Haley Biden through, or what he
put his ex wife through, or what he put his
family through. Going beyond this trial and the tax trial
that's coming up, just you know, the shady business dealings
and all that kind of stuff. It doesn't seem like
somebody who has any remorse.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Yeah, I mean, I haven't seen him apologize.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Anything he's done. I know he's talked about his addiction,
and it feels like he's blamed his addiction for just
about everything. But you got to take a little bit
of responsibility for some of the other stuff that happened
when he wasn't as addicted as he was during some
of these periods of his life. So just some more
of my thoughts on the verdict, and again, coming up,
we're going to hear from a reporter who was in
the courtroom as the verdict was being read, so we'll
(07:43):
get that take on how that all unfolded. What else
we have going on this morning.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Chris.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Eight to Jikistan nationals with ties to ISIS were busted
by US Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials in conjunction with
the Federal Bureau of Investigation and a joint Terrorism task
Force that took place in three cities, New York, LA,
and Philadelphia. Now all eight crossed into the US through
(08:08):
the southern border, and they did so illegally, according to
a federal source. Now, at the time the Homeland Security
processed these suspected terrorists, they were fully vetted, nothing was flagged,
according to reports from Fox. Yeah, so there are a
lot of questions about what happened here. Look, we know
we've got a lot of people coming into this country.
We don't know exactly who they are, where they're coming from,
(08:30):
what their background is. But I thought it was interesting
and we were talking about this.
Speaker 8 (08:36):
I can't remember which day, maybe it was yesterday when
we were talking about the southern border, but there's this
policy for the San Diego sector where they kind of
have like an apprehend and release depending on what countries
you're from, and they exclude.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Yeah, that was yesterday and you said the stands, the stands.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yeah, so like if you're coming from you know, Asia, Europe, Africa,
those countries, they have one policy. But then they had
this exception, like they're not releasing you if you're from
the Stans And it was to Jakistan, Whuzbekistan, Kyrghyzstan, and
I'm like, oh, what's with the stands? And then we
(09:16):
learned about this and clearly there must be some intelligence
that we've got, you know, potential terrorists traveling to the
US from the Stans uh and they're trying to get
in and luckily they were able to apprehend them before
anything tragic ended up happening. Well, so that's one of
the questions Ryan, I mean, what were they going to
(09:38):
do here?
Speaker 9 (09:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:39):
You know, when we think of Isis, I think we
often think of the Middle East and what goes on
over there. These guys were from a Central Asian country
and had already committed a terrorist attack in Russia. You know,
they were part of that explosion in Russia that killed
over one hundred people. So the question is if they
were crossing into our border, what was their plan for us? Exactly?
(10:00):
And can either of you name any of the six
countries that border to Jakistan, m Howserbaijan? Well, uh no,
incorrect you.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Chris, You've got more you want to do? You want
to go for all of them?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
What about Borat? What's the one that Yeah, that's the one.
Uh No, it's it's it's Pakistan, Afghanistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrghyzstan
and China. Okay, so there you go. The more you know,
you remember little geography lesson this morning. Yeah, geography most
(10:38):
people probably didn't know existed as a country before we
did this report. All right, what else we got, Chris, Well,
there's some hot dog news from Coney Island that's hard
to swallow. Well done, Yeah, New York Post reporting Joey Chestnut,
the perennial winner of the annual July fourth Nathan's Hotdog
eating competition, is out of this year's Beef Battle because
(11:01):
of a deal that he made to represent a different
Wiener brand and this one doesn't have any meat, like
as in, where's the beef? Really? Yeah, he's representing impossible foods.
These are the guys who made the Impossible Burger, a
lab produced product that apparently has launched a new hot
(11:22):
dog and Nathan's. Okay, the contest, Yeah, is it's all
Nathan's or nothing? Yeah, you eat Nathan's hot dogs or
you're not in the competition. And let's be frank about this, Ryan,
the contest just will not be the same without Joey chust. No,
it's not gonna be the same. This is what happens. Look,
(11:43):
we've said it before. When you go woke, yeah, you
go broke, go broke. It went for.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Is he a vegan now or a vegetarian where he
doesn't eat meat at all, or he just took the money.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
I think he took the money. Yeah. I don't think
he's gotten vegan based on his history. But you know
the thing about that contest is it's every July fourth, right,
and it's one of those things where you know, you
see it and you're like, oh my god, this is horrible,
but then you can't stop. You can't look away. I
know it just watched the whole thing. It's just it's
like this fascination with just you know, when competitive eating,
(12:15):
it's a real it's a talent. It's a talent. Well yeah,
I guess that's kind of a talent. I would compare
it more to like when you're in heavy traffic you're
slowing down for an accident, not ready to watch, but
you just can't look away, as opposed to a sport. No,
I get it. Chris Trenkman with today's Stop Stories. Chris,
thanks so much. Thank you still to come this hour.
We're going to talk to a reporter again who's in
(12:36):
the courtroom for the Hunter Biden Verdicts. So stick around
for that. I'm Ryan Gorman with Dana McKay in for
Michael del Chorno this week. And now let's get to
a trending story. Kevin Spacey speaking out and getting emotional
during a recent interview.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Well, he probably should have kept some things to himself.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
So Kevin Spacey sat down with Pierce Morgan and said
he's basically bankrupt because of all of his legal bills.
He's had to sell his house, and he kind of
broke down in tears and admitted to some of the
things that he's been accused of. He kind of tried
to sugarcoat it.
Speaker 9 (13:07):
Listen to this being too handsy, judging someone sexually groping
in a way that I didn't know at the time,
They didn't they didn't want.
Speaker 7 (13:16):
Some people would say that that is criminal, that if
you growp people in a sexual way against their wishes,
that that is a crime.
Speaker 9 (13:24):
I agree that the word grope is a very odd word.
I personally, I have caressed people. I have been gentle
with people. That is the way that I am. You're
making a pass at someone. You don't want to be aggressive,
you want to be gentle, and you want to see
if they're going to respond positively. So I think the
(13:44):
word itself is not a word that I associate with
my experience.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I'm going to go caress some women around the office
after the show and see how that goes.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Yeah, I mean, I just picture him.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
I mean, he's gay, so coming on to young men
who want nothing to do with him. It doesn't matter
how gentle you are with yah want to be touched.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah, I know a few women in the office you
want nothing to do with.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Me, so awful, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
I'm not going to groote them. I'm just going to
caress them and see. Yeah, see if that gets me fired.
I don't think i'll be here tomorrow morning. I don't
know what to make Kevin Spacey, to be perfectly honest
with you, because he keeps getting off in these different
lawsuits and all of that, but then he admits something
like that.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Yeah, it was a really bad move for him to
admit that and to try to like sugarcoat it. Well,
I was gentle when I was touching them, and they
didn't want me to.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Like watch and he admitted that he does have times
to Jeffrey Epstein and all of that. So there was
a lot to unpack from that interview.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
This is Your Morning Show with Michael del Chona.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Brian Gorman here with Dana McCain. Now, let's go to
the hotline and bring in ABC News State Department reporter
Shannon Kingston with an update on how the State Department
is viewing hamasa's response to the Israeli ceasefire proposal. Shannon,
thanks so much for joining us, And first of all,
does the State Department have a firm grasp as to
whether or not Hamas accepted or didn't accept the proposal,
(15:09):
because it seemed like there was some confusion about that
over the past twelve hours.
Speaker 10 (15:15):
Well, good morning, Thanks for having me. The way you
officials describe as responses, it's not a clean yes, it's
not a clean no. It's actually what they were anticipating
but not hoping for. It's a series of amendments counterproposals
to the deal that was on the table, and there's
some major kind of critical questions about whether they'll be
able to bridge this gap. So that's what they're huddling
(15:37):
with negotiators right now and trying to figure out if
they can move both sides closer to the middle, or
if this is a deal that's dead in the water.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Yeah, because we heard last night Israel came out and
Israeli official was quoted as saying that Hamas had rejected
the deal, and I guess you can take it that way,
although it sounds like it was yet another counter par
posal from Hamas, which we've seen time and time again
throughout this process.
Speaker 10 (16:05):
That's right, and the move in Israel is upset right now.
They were definitely hoping for a clean yes, because from
their views, they've already given up a lot. They have
really made some compromises to see Hamasa's position in. US
officials say the same thing. But what we've also seen
over and over again is that Israel will come out
with a strong response to one of these counter offers
(16:28):
from Hamas. We'll take a couple of days, I'm mull
it over, and then they'll be willing to come back
to the table and you know, try to see if
they can cut a deal. But that remains to be seen.
It's definitely something that we've seen officials already engaging with Israel.
There's really counterparts right now to try to get them
to be willing to do that.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
ABC News State Department reporter Shannon Kingston with the latest. Shannon,
really appreciate the update, Thanks so much, Thank you. And
again I go back to something I've been saying over
and over again. I sound like a broken record at
this point, but Israel is not going to allow Hamas
to remain in control in Gaza. Hamas does not want
to relinquish that control. That is the sticking point right there.
(17:10):
And I don't blame Israel at all for their position.
I think they need to stick to that position after
what happened on October seventh. But that's the hurdle to
getting any kind of a deal. Even as Israel has
dropped the number of living hostages, they're willing to return
get returned for a deal. It's just a very frustrating
situation over there. Hi, It's Michael.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
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Speaker 2 (17:46):
So yesterday Hunter Biden found guilty in his federal firearms trial,
and shortly after the verdict, I spoke to Axios national
political reporter Alex Thompson, who's been in the courtroom for
the trial. We actually talked to him on the show yesterday.
I thought he offered some really great insight into the
witnesses and just being there, seeing their reaction, seeing the
(18:09):
jury's reaction to what they had to say. So I
wanted to get his take on how things unfolded in
the courtroom when the verdict was read. Here's what he
told me.
Speaker 11 (18:18):
You know, it sort of.
Speaker 12 (18:19):
Came as a surprise just because the jurors had only
deliberated for about three hours total across two days.
Speaker 11 (18:27):
You know, sort of in the.
Speaker 12 (18:28):
Reporter circle sometimes you usually place guesses or bets about
how long it's going to take, and most people were
thinking at least until the afternoon. The fact that it
was in the morning caught people by surprise. And the
clearest example of that is that a lot of Hunter's
family wasn't even there for the reading of the verdicts
because they were not on site that included first lady
(18:50):
Jill Biden. They all missed the reading of the verdict.
Lots of family friends did too. I can tell you
that when the verdict was read, the Hunter Biden was
almost like like a picture. He basically did not move
until the very very end. He just nodded his head
a few times. He hugged his lawyers, he kissed his wife,
and he walked right out.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Danna, were you surprised at how quickly the verdict came back?
Speaker 4 (19:14):
I was, yeah. When I saw it pop up, I
was like, oh my.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Gosh, already yeah again. I thought it was going to
be a guilty verdict. But I was a little surprised
that within three hours they made that decision. Here's what
Alex Thompson had to say about the reaction among jurors
when the verdict was read.
Speaker 12 (19:33):
It did not seem to me the jury had any
sense of gatrip or animus. You know, a lot of
the jurors just seemed to feel sort of bad about
the whole the whole thing they you know, I think
in many ways, everything that was laid out, even though Hunter,
you know, a privocally, I think it was proven or sessified,
(19:54):
did a lot of really bad things. I think everyone
just sort of felt sorry for him. It seemed to
me this is just need sort of reading bases. You know,
I don't know what they're really thinking, but you know,
if you have also spoken out to some media outlets
and they just sort of out the whole thing as
attract And.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
That's essentially what we heard from jur number ten. If
you missed the clip that we played earlier, this was
his response when he was asked on CNN about Hunter
Biden's lifestyle.
Speaker 7 (20:20):
We didn't discuss a lot about Hunter's lifestyle, and like
I said, it was very It was very sad when
Halley testified. I mean that was for me, that was
that was a very sad time because I I did
not know that Haley also got addicted to crack, So
(20:42):
I really felt sorry for that, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Putting aside the Bidens and Hunter Biden who he is,
and even putting aside the crimes that were committed which
I thought he was guilty of. When you just look
at this story that we heard there in the courtroom
from these witnesses, it is sad. I mean, how many
(21:06):
lives were negatively impacted by his addiction, Whether it's Halle Biden.
She got addicted involved with him, Yeah, his ex wife
and what she went through. And then of course his
daughter testifying about the struggles that she had because of
his addictions.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
Yeah, just wanting to see her dad and him kind
of just blowing her off because he was too busy
doing drugs.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Right, So you can understand, like the general feeling among
the jury, it's just it's an awful story. Uh, it's
it's a tragic story for somebody who were involved. Now,
I asked Alex Thompson again, the Axios National political reporter
who was in the courtroom for the reading of the verdict,
if the expectation was that the verdict was going to
(21:52):
go one way after deliberations ended so quickly.
Speaker 11 (21:57):
Absolutely. I mean the evidence was overwhelming.
Speaker 12 (22:00):
And go back to the law says that you that
when you buy a gun, you're asked if you're an
unlawful uture of drugs, and the evidence was overwhelming that
he was an unlawful user of drugs and an addict
of crack cocaine when he bought the gun.
Speaker 11 (22:16):
Now they're going to try to appeal it, including.
Speaker 12 (22:18):
On Second Amendment grounds that sort of rules like these
questions like these are unconstitutional because of the Second Amendment,
which is, you know, in some ways at odds, you know,
loosening gun regulations a little bit at odds with his
stat's priorities. But you know, that's that's the weird situation
we find ourselves in.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
And the Second Amendment issue, which would have been the
better angle for the defense to take as opposed to
just in that moment when he was filling out the
form he didn't think he was an addict. I mean,
that seemed ridiculous to me and to find common sense.
But the Second Amendment angle would be should someone be
prevented from owning a gun for self defense if they're
(22:58):
addicted to a drug, even you know, marijuana, something like that.
That would have been a stronger case. I don't think
this appeal has as good of a chance at having
an impact on the verdict as what we're going to
see with the Trump hush money trial appeal. But that
Second Amendment question, I think is just more generally speaking,
(23:19):
pretty interesting. I also asked Alex Thompson about how Wilmington
residents reacted to the trial happening there.
Speaker 12 (23:28):
It was interesting, actually didn't feel as the center of
attention at all in the town.
Speaker 11 (23:32):
It very much felt like it was only the center
of attentions.
Speaker 12 (23:34):
But the reporters that were countered there, yeah, they were
sort of parachuting in. And you know, it was really
striking that so many people in Boomington were just like.
Speaker 11 (23:43):
Oh, yeah, like oh I heard about that trial. It
was not the circus that certainly the trial was.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Again, that was Alex Thompson, Axios national political correspondent, who
was in the courtroom for the Hunter Biden gun trial.
And I also thought that was pretty fascinating because I
don't I think Wilmington's pretty small.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Yeah, you would think that a big deal, the sign
the president on trial. Yeah, people would be all into
it and whatever. I guess that really care.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Earlier in the show, we talked to News Nation legal
analyst Jesse Weber to get his thoughts on the trial
and the verdicts, and I want to play you a
couple of clips because I thought his analysis was really good.
And one moment that we spent some time on were
the reasons that this conviction ended up happening.
Speaker 13 (24:30):
Some of the worst evidence against Hunter Biden was from
Hunter Biden his own text messages suggesting he was looking
for drugs around the time of the gun purchase, the
idea of his own words from his memoir him talking
about smoking cracks.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
But it wasn't just that.
Speaker 13 (24:47):
It was the testimony of those who were in hunter
Biden's lives. In hunter Biden's life, those closest to him,
who said they observed him as a drug abuser, who
observed this use of drugs for an ongoing period before, during,
and after this gun purchase, drug residue found in his car.
So it didn't take jurors that much of a leap
(25:08):
to say, while we can't stay definitively he might have
been doing drugs the other day he bought the gun.
As the prosecution argued, and argued correctly, he was actively
engaged in drugs at this period of time. And moreover,
he knew that he was abusing drugs and was an addict.
After all, he had gone to rehab, so he understood
(25:30):
what his addiction was. He couldn't make the argument as
much as his defense counsel suggested that he didn't knowingly
violate the law, he didn't see himself as a drug user,
because all the evidence was suggested otherwise.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
There's a mountain of evidence as high as Salming. Yeah,
as as the mountain of crack and Hunter Baden was
in possession of. I mean, let's be honest. I also
asked Jesse Weber, again NewsNation legal analyst, about the most
compelling witness testimony that took place during the trial.
Speaker 13 (25:59):
I think you talk about his former love interests talking
about observing him doing drugs in and around that period
of time. That was the key, That was the key
for the prosecution. And I will also say that Hally
Bioden Holly got in. Seeing this drug residue in his
car after the gun purchase was particularly problematic for Hunter Biden,
(26:22):
But in totality it added to the overall narrative that
he was using drugs, knew he knew himself that he
was a drug abuser. And again, I think in totality
and looking at that, it was easy for the jury
to make that conclusion.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
And then finally, because you're going to see a lot
of headlines on a Beden faces up to twenty years
in prison and all of that, realistically, what is he
looking at in terms of sentencing? This is what Jesse
Weber had to say.
Speaker 13 (26:50):
Is there a possibility that Hunter Biden could be sentenced
to prison yet, but it'll probably be more something like
fifteen to twenty one months in prison. If that, there
is a chance that he could also be sentenced to probation.
Remember these de felonies, the federal felonies serious charges. Nonetheless,
there is potential he could face prison time. Now to
(27:10):
be clear about that, sentencing would have happened for about
four months. If he is sentenced to prison, there's also
a question about whether he would have to surrender and
report to prison at a later date, not that he
would have to lamand himself into custody at that day
of sentencing. So it becomes a question of what the
sentence will be and when he will actually have to
serve it.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
And still to come to this how We're going to
check out with our White House correspondent John Decker for
his take on the Hunter Biden guilty verdict, So stick
around for that. I'm Ryan Gorman with Dana McKay in
for Michael Del Journo this week. And now let's get
to a trending story involving Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
Yes yesterday, Team USA officially announced the basketball roster and
the white Lotus star Abby Plaza.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Named this team in a video.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
And what really caught people's attention and I think ticked
people off even more out the fact that Caitlyn Clark,
you know, isn't on the team, is that she started
the video by saying, not sure if you've heard, but
women's basketball is having a moment.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
And it's not about to end. And then she names all.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
These players who made the team, but not Caitlyn Clark,
the one who's at the center of women's basketball having
a moment.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Yeah, why women's basketball having a moment.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
I wonder because of Caitlin Clark, who's not on the team.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
So the response is to this video.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
All across Team USA social media, it was all backlash.
It was all people mad that Caitlyn Clark is not
on the team. One woman even said, after thirty years
of being a die hard Women's USA basketball fan, I
will be cheering for Japan this year. They have no
integrity not having her on the team. Another person said
(28:48):
the best player in the world was left out because
of jealousy and racism. This sad, I mean, just all
of the comments across all of their social media was
just all about how mad people are that Caitlyn Clark
did not make the team.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yeah, people have some strong feelings. I don't know about
rooting for another country she's not on the team. Yeah,
And that's what I love about the Olympics this. It
really doesn't matter what the sport is, what you're watching,
you just know who to root for. It is root
for TSA. Look, I don't really care all that much
about this. I just think it would have been better
for women's basketball. And you could have made the case
(29:21):
to put Caitlin Clark on the team if she were
on the team, because that's what people are tuning in
for it these days. I mean, the attendance numbers show it,
the ratings show it. I just think it would have
been a better move for the sport. But you know,
I'm gonna keep rooting for Team USA regards exactly. I'm
Lenny McGill McGill's world famous block store, and my morning
(29:42):
show is Your Morning Shoe with Michael del Jorno Brian
Gorman here with Dana McKay. President Biden heading to the
G seven summit in Italy. But more importantly, our very
own White House correspondent John Decker is headed to the
G seven summit in Italy. John, thanks how much for
taking a few minutes to come on show with us
this morning. Before we get to a preview of the summit,
(30:03):
I want to go back to the events that unfolded yesterday.
Hunter Biden's conviction in the federal firearms trial comes any
surprise to you.
Speaker 14 (30:14):
No, it doesn't, Ryan, You and I have been speaking
about this during this week long trial. There was just
devastating testimony that was given during the course of this
week long trial by Hunter Biden's ex wife, by a
former girlfriend, by a sister in law, all of whom
had relationships with Hunter Biden, and all of whom recounted
the level of his substance abuse that they witnessed during
(30:37):
the course of their relationships. So that's just devastating testimony
that you can undo if you're a defense lawyer. So
not surprised, I can think. The only surprising thing always
is the duration of deliberations, only three hours to come
to guilty verdicts on all three of those charges.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
In terms of any potential political fallout from all all
of this, I don't think we're likely going to see
any kind of movement in the polls or anything like
that based on Hunter Biden being found guilty.
Speaker 14 (31:10):
To you, no, I don't you know. It's counterintuitive, I
think in the sense that obviously Hunter Biden himself, which
would have much preferred an acquittal associated with this criminal trial.
But for President Joe Biden, you know, the argument or
the narrative that could potentially have been used against President
(31:33):
Biden if there was an acquittal was two tiers of justice.
You know, if you had Donald Trump convicted in his
trial and Hunter Biden getting off, that's not what happened.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
You know.
Speaker 14 (31:42):
You have the former president convicted on those thirty four
counts in that Manhattan case brought by Alvin Bragg, and
Hunter Biden convicted three counts federal court. So they're each
facing sentencing for president. For the former president, we're talking
about just a few weeks from now, just before the
Republican National Convention, when Judge Wan Mrshan will hand down
(32:05):
a sentence in that case. And then four months from
now is when the judge presiding over Hunter Biden's case
will hand down her sentence for Hunter Biden for these
guilty verdicts, and we know what the maximum penalty is,
he's not going to get the maximum. I think it's
more likely that we see a very light penalty imposed
upon Hunter Biden, maybe even probation.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
We're joined by our White House correspondent, John Decker right now,
who's overseas for the G seven summit. So let's talk
about the summit. What's on the agenda.
Speaker 14 (32:37):
Well, the top priority for G seven leaders the President
arrives late this evening is the issue of the war
in Ukraine. That's been a top priority for the past
two and a half years during these annual meetings, since
Russia invaded Ukraine back in February of twenty twenty two.
President Biden is going to be pushing his G seven
counterparts to sign off on a proposal of his to
(33:01):
use the interest of Russian frozen assets in financial institutions
here in Europe to be used as collateral for providing
up to fifty billion dollars in new aid for Ukraine
to be used in the war effort, to be used
in reconstruction. That will be the primary focus during this
three day summit.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
We have also heard reports that President Biden is going
to meet with Ukrainian President Voladimir Zelenski I believe tomorrow,
and there could be a news conference as well. So
that goes right in line with what you were saying
Ukraine being a big priority there at the summit.
Speaker 14 (33:37):
That's right, Ryan. So there will be a bilateral meeting
that President has on the schedule. It's the only bilateral
meeting that right now as things stand on his schedule.
That's with President Zelenski. There is going to be a
joint press conference that likely, Ryan, is the first opportunity
that we'll have to ask the President questions regarding the
conviction of Hunter Biden, his son. I don't think that
(33:59):
we're going to see him make any remarks before boarding
Air Force Swam, which is happening within the next hour.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Nor White House correspondent John Decker with US John, appreciate
the update, Thanks so much.
Speaker 14 (34:09):
Thank you, Bye. Roan.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
All right, before we wrap up, I also want to
note we just got some inflation data that came in.
The Consumer Price Index report came in and it's actually
decent news. Uninflation cooled a bit in the month of May,
really led by gas prices. May also saw the lowest
monthly inflation in more than a year. And then core inflation,
(34:32):
which is something the Federal Reserve looks more at that
declined to three point four percent year over year in May,
the lowest since April of twenty twenty one. So again, look,
there are a couple different ways to view this. If
you're looking at this in the framework of whether or
not the Federal Reserve will lower interest rates at some
point this year, well this is good news for that possibility,
(34:55):
although I don't think it's going to happen, you know,
in the immediate near future. Looking at this and saying, well,
everything's still costing me a fortune, well yeah, I mean
the cumulative effect of inflation still impacting Americans and that's
not going to change anytime soon either. That's going to
do it for us. We're all in this together.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
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