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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:27):
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Speaker 4 (00:39):
Welcome to the show on this Thursday, June thirteenth. I'm
Ryan Gorman with Danna McKay and Chris Trankman from our newsroom.
We're live on air and on your iHeartRadio app. Coming
up this hour. New reports indicate a top vice presidential
contender for Trump likely out of the running. We'll tell
you who. Plus President Biden's overseas for the G seven summit,
and so is our White House correspondent On Decker. We're

(01:00):
going to check in with him in just a bit
before we get to the big stories of the day.
Did you see what happened at that congressional baseball game
last night? You had Capitol police they had to go
and tackle and take down protesters who ran on the field.

Speaker 5 (01:16):
Yeah, they were climate activists and they thought it would
be a good idea to jump down onto the field,
and they videotaped the whole thing like bragging about it.
And they learned real quick that that was a bad
idea and they totally got tackled and hauled off the field.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
So what happens, Like, if you do that at a
regular baseball game, then you're like banned for life from
that stadium.

Speaker 6 (01:36):
If you do it at the congressional baseball game, yeah,
I don't know what happens.

Speaker 5 (01:40):
The video, by the way, is on our Facebook page
at Ryan Gorman Show.

Speaker 7 (01:43):
Well, there have been problems at that game. You remember
Steve Scalish, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:47):
Got shot mm hm.

Speaker 7 (01:49):
So it's not as if for the game, yeah right,
but it was for the game, and you know, it
just shows you that that's a place where they know
they're going to be a bunch of congressional YEP reper
senatives and for whatever reason, some of these activists decide
to disrupt the game, which is supposed to actually be
a game where Congress is getting.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
Along, you know, they come together. I think Republicans destroy
Democrats in that game. I think the final score is
like thirty one to eleven or something like that.

Speaker 6 (02:16):
Oh man, you got to call it at ten. Yeah, yeah, that's.

Speaker 8 (02:21):
What they didn't.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
My son's little league team was winning so much the season.
They kept having to call the games because they were
kicking other kids.

Speaker 6 (02:29):
I mean, that's why they stole the field.

Speaker 9 (02:31):
Stop.

Speaker 6 (02:32):
That's out of control. And let me tell you something.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
They weren't very imaginative the protesters, like, at least streak
if you're going to do it, you know, I mean,
they just ran onto the fields in their close.

Speaker 8 (02:42):
I don't want to see these people.

Speaker 6 (02:44):
Yeah, that is a good point.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
All right, let's get to today's top stories now with
Chris Trankman.

Speaker 7 (02:50):
Good morning, Chris, Good morning. A White House spokeswoman did
not rule out the possibility that President Biden might commute
the sentence of his son Hunter Biden, who was convicted
on three federal felony counts or illegally purchasing a handgun
during his addiction to crack cocaine. The President declared last
week he would not pardon his son if convicted, but

(03:10):
he did not address a commutation that would leave the
guilty verdict intact but could wipe out some or all
of the punishment. Press Secretary Karee John Pierre told reporters
she couldn't say if the president would consider commuting Hunter's sentence.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
Do we think that Hunter Biden goes a little above
and beyond for Father's Day this year in hopes that
he can ingratiate himself a little more with his dad.
So maybe that commuting of the sentence happens down the road,
or a pardon.

Speaker 6 (03:42):
Or something like that.

Speaker 8 (03:43):
That's not a bad idea.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
Yeah, maybe instead of the you know, twenty five dollars
Appleby's gift card, he goes, you know, a little more expensive.

Speaker 6 (03:51):
Would he give the guy who's got everything? Yeah? I mean,
you know, President, he's eighty something. I mean, you know,
I don't know. Yeah, maybe a time for a nap
or something like that.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
Uh, but yeah, I just I just wonder if you know,
you step up your gift game a little bit for
Father's Day when you're.

Speaker 6 (04:06):
Looking for a pardon.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
I don't know how that works, Like I can't relate,
but Uh, certainly on Hunter Biden's mind.

Speaker 6 (04:12):
I think, again, nothing's going to happen before the election
with this.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
I mean, that would be that be political suicide if
if Biden were to commute the sentence, if he were
to pardon him. I mean, I think that is one
of the very few things that could maybe move the
needle a little bit ahead.

Speaker 7 (04:31):
Of the election. But no, I mean, it's his son.
I'm not so sure about that.

Speaker 5 (04:35):
You think, do you think people you think if he
pardoned Hunter that people wouldn't be upset by that and
not want to vote.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
Republicans are going to be upset regardless. Yeah, but that's
not who he's got to be worried about. They're already
going to show up. You got to be worried about
a couple of swings.

Speaker 6 (04:51):
And independence to Trump because of that.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
I don't think you don't need all of them, You
need just a few thousand and a couple of select states.
I think it'd be a risky move, but I do
thing after the election, then you know, one of these
might be an option.

Speaker 6 (05:04):
Yeah, that could be a possibility.

Speaker 7 (05:05):
There's no way Hunter is going to be you know,
in prison for like, you know, an extended period of time. No,
so the commutation ideas is probably more likely in the
short term, like you said, the long term, if you know,
something happens where Biden loses the election, got to figure
I'll pardon him. Yeah, but you know before that, Yeah,

(05:27):
I suppose politically it's not likely we'll see any action
on that.

Speaker 6 (05:30):
And it depends what the sentence is.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
And then I saw, I guess Alvin Bragg, the DA
in New York who prosecuted the Trump hush money trial,
he is going to testify before Congress, like just days
after the sentence is handed down for Donald Trump. Yeah,
I feel like you would want to testify before that
because if it's a certain sentence, I mean, that's already

(05:51):
going to be a contentious here. And can you imagine
that judge says Trump's sent into prison and Alvin Bragg's
gonna go testify before House Republicans?

Speaker 8 (06:02):
Oh, yeah, all for it.

Speaker 6 (06:04):
Maybe that's why they scheduled it.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
Maybe. Yeah, So that should be interesting too. What else
is going on this morning, Chress, Well, no deal.

Speaker 7 (06:10):
Secretary of State Tony Blinken said that the group HAMAS
has not accepted the US back proposal for a hostage
and Ceasepire deal because they presented numerous changes that go
beyond previous positions. So the US, along with some international mediators,
they said that that was the best chance to end
the eight months of war. One hundred and twenty hostages

(06:32):
still being held by Hamas and Gaza, and Gaza the war.
You know, the effects of the war, thirty seven thousand
Palestinians killed by Israel, according to Hamas leaders and local
health authorities.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
You know that pawn Stars meme where you got the
one guy thing. He's bald and he's saying the best
I can do. It feels like that's what Hamas keeps doing.
You know, best I can do is you don't get
anything that you want in this deal. I mean, best
I can do is you don't get all your hostages back.
We don't leave power in Gaza, and we continue to

(07:06):
exist and maybe even continue to attack Israel down the road.
I mean, they are. It's amazing how much Israel has
moved during the course of these negotiations, and Tamas still
continues to turn down any kind of deal, because, I mean,
Israel went from you know, we want all our hostages
back to well, we'll just take a few dozen, and

(07:29):
you can mix in some of the dead ones with
the living. Literally that was you know what they came
back with and agreed to just to kind of move
this along.

Speaker 6 (07:37):
And Hamas still won't go for it.

Speaker 7 (07:39):
It's still a tricky situation for Prime Minister Benjamin ned
and yahoo though in Israel, because he is under tremendous
pressure to get the hostages out and this once again
is another failure within the negotiations.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
Because I don't think Hamas wants to give I mean,
there Hamas's leverage and there are a couple of things
that just haven't changed. There are just a couple of
fundamental issues here. I keep mentioning this. Hamas wants to
stay in power. Israel can't accept that Hamas didn't want
to give up all the hostages because as all the
leverage they have, Israel wants all the hostages back. I mean,
those dynamics, they haven't changed since day one. Yeah, but

(08:16):
that's a problem.

Speaker 7 (08:16):
Yeah, some people are getting frustrated with that, and we'll
see if something better can come along.

Speaker 6 (08:21):
But for the month, for the.

Speaker 7 (08:22):
Time being, the deal that was announced by President Biden.
You know, remember he put it out there and he
said that Israel was on board, and everything looks like
it's gone down. Meanwhile, this reel's got big problems to
the north with Hesbala fire and a bunch of rockets
into Israel, and so things are heating up there.

Speaker 6 (08:39):
It's just continues to be a real mess over there.

Speaker 7 (08:42):
The Federal Reserve held interest rates steady on Wednesday, and
they pushed back the start of rate cuts to perhaps
his latest December, despite a key report that came out
showing inflation easing last month more than expected. So that
removes the prospect of slashing the twenty three year high
at borrowing costs before the November fifth presidential election. And

(09:05):
Fed officials also repositioned from three quarter percentage point cuts
that they had signaled in March to just one. So
not great news for folks who are looking to buy
a house or something like that. I mean, the interest
rates are still very high, and obviously politically, if you're
President Biden, you're probably hoping that something would happen before
the election.

Speaker 6 (09:24):
Sure, I thought it was going to be tricky.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
I didn't think the Federal Reserved necessarily wanted to get
involved with interest rate cuts, you know, in the month
or two leading up to the election, because then you're
going to have charges that they're doing it for political
reasons and all that, even though I don't necessarily think
that's so much how they have operated or would operate.
But if you go back towards the end of last year,
there was a lot of talk that there would be

(09:47):
multiple rate cuts throughout the course of twenty twenty four,
and we found that getting inflation to that target goal
of two percent, where it's not at yet, I mean,
there's still a waste to go. It's become more difficult
than anticipated. In the economy hasn't slowed down as much
as I think the Federal Reserve was expecting. We just
had a jobs report that was above expectations. So so

(10:08):
many different things can be true.

Speaker 6 (10:09):
At the same time.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
You've got inflation moving in the right direction, although very slowly.
You've got the cumulative effect of inflation. How much more
things cost now than they did a few years ago.
That's hurting working families across the country. You've got a
strong jobs market that's undeniable. You've got a strong stock

(10:32):
market so people's four one ks or good. You've got
a housing market that's been difficult to maneuver in. I mean,
there are just a lot of dynamics at play right now.
It's hard. I just feel like it's hard to label
the economy as good, bad, or you know, something else.
It just depends on your specific personal situation right now.

Speaker 6 (10:50):
And don't forget greedflation.

Speaker 7 (10:52):
You know, a lot of complaints are from people who
have seen products go up in price seemingly for no reason.
I mean I had a thing of like pringles or whatever,
and the container it's like less.

Speaker 6 (11:01):
Than half full. Really on some of these products.

Speaker 7 (11:04):
Shrinkla shrink flation, Right, But greedflation is the idea that
corporations are doing this should do it, not because of
the economy. Right.

Speaker 5 (11:12):
We talked about how like Target, Walmart and all these
places are lowering prices on a lot of products because
they know that they've made a ton of money and
people aren't shopping.

Speaker 7 (11:21):
There anymore, and the products have less in them anyway. Yeah,
so they're not really losing money because I'm gouging everybody
with higher prices with less products.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
I'm curious, Chris, when you get down to the final
few pringles, how do you handle that situation? Do you
put the arm all the way in or do you
tip it over and tip it over? Yeah, yeah, I'm not.

Speaker 7 (11:39):
I'm not like a Pringles drinker though, you know, like, yeah,
I don't do I'll put it in my comments and
then yeah, exactly, I don't trust myself with you know,
just drinking it right out of thee.

Speaker 6 (11:51):
Yeah, that's a safe strategy there. Good work, Chris. Chris
Trenkman with today's stop Stories, Chris, thanks so much, Thank you.
Still to come this.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
Hour, some analysis of the legal trouble that remains for
Hunter Biden. ABC News contributor Sarah Iskar is going to
check in shortly, so stick around for that. I'm Ryan
Gorman with Dana McKay in for Michael del Jorno this week.
And right now, let's get to a trending story.

Speaker 6 (12:12):
Is the drama between Joey Chestnut and the Nathan's hot
Dog eating contest continues.

Speaker 5 (12:18):
You gotta call it a beef, the beef between Nathan's
hot Dogs and their most famous hot dog competition winner,
Joey Chestnut. So he's been banned from competing this year
because he signed a deal with Impossible Foods and now
he's endorsing vegan hot dogs. But he claims that Major
League Eating changed the rules and booted him, but the

(12:39):
company that manages the event says, oh no, he has
nobody to blame but himself. In exchange for fees, he
was paid to appear and compete every year. He had
agreed that he would not endorse or sponsor any competing product.
They were paying him several hundred thousand dollars, and he
went and signed a deal with Vegan hot Dogs. Like,

(13:00):
what if he think is gonna happen?

Speaker 4 (13:01):
I wonder if he were, let's say, he were allowed
to compete, only he had to eat the vegan hot dogs,
would he be able to get as many down as
the normal Nathan's hot dogs? Because I feel like, you know,
those impossible hot dogs.

Speaker 6 (13:20):
They're not the same. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (13:23):
I think they're all disgusting. And he so last year
he won eating sixty two hot dogs and buns and
matter of minutes.

Speaker 8 (13:29):
That is disgusted.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
I just maybe at that point you're not even you're
probably not tasting what you're eating anyway, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 5 (13:36):
Yeah, it's like you just shove it right down your throat.

Speaker 6 (13:38):
Basically, I can't believe you don't like hot dogs No,
I don't like I don't like hot dogs at a
ball game.

Speaker 5 (13:44):
Even had a hot dog in years.

Speaker 6 (13:46):
What they're disgusted?

Speaker 4 (13:48):
What about the ones that are wrapped in like the biscuit,
you know those.

Speaker 5 (13:50):
Little the oh yeah, the little like Wiener dogs? Yeah yeah, No,
I'm at a party and they have those.

Speaker 6 (13:57):
Nope. God, he's the most Unamerican thing.

Speaker 10 (13:59):
I then they're terrible for you.

Speaker 8 (14:01):
What dogs are not good for you?

Speaker 10 (14:02):
Sorry?

Speaker 4 (14:03):
Nathan?

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Right, this is your morning show with Michael DELTONO, Ryan Gorman.

Speaker 6 (14:10):
Here with Dana McKay.

Speaker 4 (14:11):
South Carolina Senator Tim Scott maybe falling out of favor
with former President Donald Trump.

Speaker 6 (14:17):
Here's Brian Shook with that report.

Speaker 8 (14:18):
The New York Post report Scott is slipping in the
race to be Trump's running mate and is extremely unlikely
to be chosen for the role. According to one insider,
Scott is among several candidates reportedly being vetted by the
Trump campaign, including Senators Marco Rubio and JD Vance, as
well as representatives Byron Donald's and a Lease Stephonic. Trump

(14:40):
says he plans to announce his running mate at the
Republican Convention next month.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
Boy, I've been wrong about this every step of the way.
I had Christy nom as the favorite.

Speaker 6 (14:51):
She shut her dog and ki yeah and she's out.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
And then I was like, all right, well, I think
Tim Scott's the new favorite.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
No, no, no, So who do you think now?

Speaker 6 (15:03):
Well, I'm going to jingx them. I've been saying.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
I thought Marco Rubio has a strong chance. You can
count him out, that's for sure. Maryland police say Senator
John Fetterman was driving at a high rate of speed before
he was involved in a car accident over the weekend.

Speaker 6 (15:17):
Here's Mark Mayfield with that.

Speaker 11 (15:19):
A witness said Fetterman's vehicle was going well over the
posted speed limit shortly before rear ending another car Sunday morning.
A spokesperson for the Pennsylvania Democrats' office said he and
his wife, Giselle, went to a local hospital after the
crash and were discharged. The same day, Fetterman posted a
video on social media thanking people for their well wishes,
saying they're doing well and happy to be back home

(15:40):
with their families. An investigation into the accident is ongoing.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
He really is a man of the people. Where's the hoodies?
And he speaks like everyone else.

Speaker 5 (15:48):
I was wondering, though, how does he have a driver's
license after having a stroke, you know what I mean?
I just wondered if there was something still going on there.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
No, I think it's more his ability to communicate, and
he's gotten a lot better at that. I don't know
that it's you know, like the ability to drive. What
was interesting about Fetterman He was seen walking around the
Capitol and what is with all the celebrities on Capitol Hill.
Fifty Cent was there recently, Usher was there yesterday. But
Fetterman he made some news because he actually fit a

(16:21):
hoodie underneath his suit and he put a tie around it.
So he's got he's got the suit on, then he's
got a hoodie and he's got a tie like around it.

Speaker 5 (16:31):
The hoodie underneath the suit underneath the suit code. Yeah,
he cannot be comfortable at all.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
Well, I'm assuming when he got wherever he was gonna go,
he's gonna take the suitcoat off and then he had
his hoodie on. But yeah, it was definitely I had
not seen that look before. I don't know if that
violates any kind of dress code in certain areas of
the Capital, but he pulled it off.

Speaker 6 (16:50):
So Fetterman has been a fascinating character.

Speaker 10 (16:52):
It really has been.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
We thought that there was no way he should be
anywhere near the US Senate just because of his health issues,
and he had those mental health issues after that. But honestly,
you know, he's been the best Democrat on things like
Israel and the border and calling for Senator Bob Menendez
to resign like he's been on the right side of
a number of issues.

Speaker 6 (17:13):
Yeah, a little common sense there.

Speaker 8 (17:14):
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Speaker 4 (17:42):
Ryan Gorman here with Dana McKay and now let's go
to the hotline and bring in our next guest. We're
joined by ABC News contributor, senior editor at The Dispatch
and host of the Advisory Opinions podcast, Sarah Iskris. Sarah,
it's great to talk to you this morning. Lots to
run through, and let's start with Hunter Biden. The federal
firearms case has wrapped up. Sentencing is next now that

(18:02):
he's been convicted, but that's not where his legal issues
will end. There's still more to come later this year.

Speaker 10 (18:09):
There is actually another trial for Hunter Biden in September,
just weeks before the election, and this one is more
politically periless for his father. Hunter Biden was convicted this
week on gun charges related to his use of cocaine
while possessing a gun, but in September, he'll face charges
for failing to pay about one point four million dollars

(18:29):
in taxes. And the problem for Joe Biden is not
only the timing of that trial, but also where that
money came from that he owed the taxes on. These
were mostly from foreign entities and governments paying Hunter Biden,
who was peddling that he had influence with his father
for policy making and decision making as vice president and
former Vice president.

Speaker 6 (18:50):
Oh Sarah, come on, Hunter is an expert, consultant, and
an attorney and an artiste.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
I mean clearly, that's why he was getting paid what
he was paying, because of all of his talents.

Speaker 10 (19:05):
And of course, at the same time that he's not
paying taxes, he's also not paying childs all sorts of
other moneies that he owes, and all of that I
expect to come out in this September trial, which again
will be unfortunate timing and unfortunate topic for his father
running for reelection.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
Now, going back to the federal firearms trial, we talked
about this. If his name wasn't Hunter Biden, probably wouldn't
see these charges brought like they were. But once he
was charged with what he was with, this is a
pretty open and shutcase that's exactly right.

Speaker 10 (19:43):
For the jury to acquit him on these charges, they
would have had to believe that you contemporaneous text messages
where Hunter Biden was saying I'm sitting on the hood
of my car smoking crack and waiting for his drug dealer,
that he was lying in those text messages, and at
the cocaine residue that they found when they retrieved the
gun from the dumpster that they found on the wholester

(20:04):
of the gun was coincidental. Who knows where that cocaine
came from. So obviously the jury did not buy the
defense's pushed back on that. Really, I think the Hunter
Biden team knew that their best arguments against these convictions
were not going to be on the facts, but that
the law itself is unconstitutional. Interestingly enough, the Fifth Circuit,

(20:27):
Now that's down Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi. But the Fifth Circuit
recently held with the law was unconstitutional as applied to
a marijuana user. So this person was pulled over and
the police found a joint and a gun in the car,
but they had no evidence that the person was at
that time intoxicated or high or anything else. But he

(20:49):
admitted that he did overall use marijuana, and the Supreme
Court or sorry, the Fifth Circuit held that, no, that
violates someone's second member rights to own a gun just
because it some point.

Speaker 6 (21:00):
They've used drugs.

Speaker 10 (21:02):
But that's a lot that Hunter Biden's hanging this on,
because they also said maybe a different substance, maybe different facts,
would change the government's interest in enforcing this law. As
opposed to marijuana, Cocaine is obviously a very different drug
the amount that Hunter Biden was using and using it
while holding the gun obviously because of the cocaine residue.

(21:26):
I find it unlikely that this will be overturned on appeal,
and both for Trump and for Hunter Biden, I think
the Supreme Court is simply going to decline to hear
these cases.

Speaker 6 (21:34):
Well, it'd be quite the twist too, politically if Hunter
Biden really pushed forward with, you know, a second amendments battle,
and he would essentially be taking a much different position
from where his father is at on these issues in
his administration.

Speaker 10 (21:49):
Well, funny enough, but you know, while the conviction is
being handed down by the jury this week, Joe Biden
was on his way to give a speech to a
gun control group. It was advocating for more gun control
laws from Congress, Whurse his son will now be seeking
to invalidate one of the most not one of the

(22:11):
most used gun control law on the books. Eighteen USC nine,
twenty two g.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
We're joined by ABC News contributor, senior editor at the
Dispatch and host of the Advisory Opinions podcast, Sarah Issker.
Final question on this, There's unlikely, at least with this
conviction putting aside what could happen in September with the
tax case, is unlikely to be any political fallout from
this for Joe Biden, And in fact, the one thing

(22:37):
that I think could have a big impact would be
if Joe Biden were to pardon him ahead of the election,
which I don't think would happen.

Speaker 6 (22:45):
Because that probably would move the needle a little bit. Right.

Speaker 10 (22:49):
I think here first of all, right, that very little
at this point is going to move the trajectory of
this election. So far, nothing else has. I have no
idea why this would. Joe Biden has said in an
interview with David Muir last week that he would not
pardon his son, but interestingly, no one's asked Hi whether
he would consider commuting his sentence. So, if Hunter Biden

(23:10):
is sentenced to federal prison, and if the judge says
that he must start that sentence before his appeals are concluded,
i e. Report to prison before the election, I do
wonder whether a dad is going to let his now
sober but addict son go to federal prison. However, a
lot of caveats there. One. While I think it is

(23:33):
likely that he gets some sentence of time it's also
likely that that'll be in home confinement, not in a
federal prison, and I don't know that his dad would
steal the same need to save his son from home
arrest versus a federal prison. Second, it is not crazy
to think that they would allow him to wait to
serve any sentence until after his appeals are exhausted. Normally,

(23:56):
when it comes to drug convictions, that would be unusual.
But again, this is actually an unusual drug conviction. So yes,
when you have, you know, a felon who has been
convicted of assault who's then found in possession of a gun,
which is also part of the same law as being
you know, in a legal possession of a gun, Yet
we generally don't wait two years until sending that guy

(24:17):
to prison. We get him off the streets right now.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
But this is.

Speaker 10 (24:21):
Very different facts, and the purpose of a prison sentence
would be quite different as well, So waiting for the
end of that appeal not crazy. Same thing we're going
to see in the Donald Trump case. He may be
sentenced to again, maybe home confinement. That would be unusual
to have any time, given the lack of severity of
those charges of classy felony as the highest charge, but

(24:43):
in New York that would also be very unusual for
him to need to serve any of that sentence before
his appeals are exhausted.

Speaker 4 (24:49):
Last thing I want to ask you about, and Kim,
we're joined by ABC News contributor Sarah Issker. Since you
were labeled the Supreme Court whisperer in a recent profile
in The New Yorker, I have to ask you about
Justice Alito and all the flags and the secret tapes.
What do you make of all of it?

Speaker 10 (25:11):
So this week, an undercovered journalist, as she purports to be,
released audio that she had taken when she had sort
of a conversation at an event. She walked up to
Justice Alito and Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Alito's wife
and tried to pretend that she was a very conservative

(25:32):
Christian to get them to answer questions about, you know,
this being a Christian nation or the need for the
nation to return to more godliness. And what's interesting is
that the Chief Justice sort of gave the textbook political answer,
this is not a Christian nation. Our job is justices
is to apply the law and sort of brushed her
off and disagreed with her every time she you know,

(25:54):
sort of rambled in a way that most people would
feel sort of a social pressure her to agree. Justice
Alito did not follow the Chief's path. Instead, you know,
after this very long sort of you know, well, I'm
a conservative Catholic like you, and I just think this country,
you know, like and you know, a bunch of other stuff,

(26:14):
needs to return to godliness, and justice, Alito says, I agree.
I agree. And there's two ways to see that. One
is that this was highly inappropriate that he is saying
that as a justice, you know, he thinks that the
country needs to be more godly. But another way to
see it is simply that there's this pretty awkward, rambling

(26:35):
woman who he's trying to be polite to and he
thinks being inarticulate and saying that, you know, she likes
God and she's a Catholic and he's a Catholic, which
is all part of her very long question, it takes
about six minutes, and so he's saying I agree, is
sort of a way that you politely kind of try
to get away from someone. And the third thing is
that she actually, in our question, never brings up the law,

(26:56):
his job, any role of the court she's asking as
a Catholic, and so there's also a way to say, like, yeah,
he sort of gave his personal answer, and if you're
uncomfortable with that, let me introduce you to George Washington
and James Math had a.

Speaker 6 (27:12):
Whole bunch of other pose guys.

Speaker 10 (27:13):
Who also had deep Christian face that they had no
problem talking about publicly, but that they saw a different
from their official government jobs.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
And let me tell you them, there have been plenty
of times I've been in those interactions and I've agreed
with stuff that I don't even know what I was
agreeing with just to get out of that conversation. So
I feel Alito's pain if that was the case. ABC
News contributor, senior editor at The Dispatch and hosted the
Advisory Opinions podcast Sarah Isker with us. Sarah really appreciate
the time, Thanks so much.

Speaker 10 (27:43):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
All Right, still to come this how we're going to
get to the latest on the G seven summit underway
in Italy, So stick around for that. I'm Ryan Gorman
with Dana McKay and now it's time for another trending story,
this one involving another Elon mush controversy.

Speaker 5 (28:01):
Yeah, So, eight former SpaceX employees just filed a lawsuit
against SpaceX and Elon Musk, claiming they were illegally fired
for raising concerns about sexual harassment and discrimination against women
in the company. And this happened a day after a
Wall Street Journal report alleged Elon Musk has had sexual
relationships with at least two SpaceX employees and has made

(28:22):
a lot of inappropriate comments. So, one of the women
is a former intern that he later hired to work
on his executive team. And then there's another woman who
says that after their relationship fell apart, she received recriminations
over text and email as she left the company. She
also says she had to sign an agreement prohibiting her
from discussing her work with him. He's also accused of

(28:45):
asking a female employee to have his babies as they
were negotiating her exit from the company in twenty thirteen.
The employees say he was a frequent source of distraction
and embarrassment. He's also accused of treating women as sexual
objects to be a value you waited on their bra size,
of bombarding the workplace with lude sexual banter, and he

(29:05):
apparently told anyone who challenged the animal house environment that
if they don't like it, they can go work somewhere else.

Speaker 6 (29:13):
Now that sounds like Elon Musk.

Speaker 8 (29:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (29:14):
And he also denied a sexual harassment complaint from a
former employee in twenty twenty one. She said she was
paid two hundred and fifty thousand dollars by the company
after he exposed himself to her and offered to buy
her a horse in exchange for an erotic massage.

Speaker 6 (29:32):
A lot going on there, weird gift to offer up.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
I like the Drudge headline for this story space xxx.

Speaker 6 (29:41):
We he does like letter X A lot he does.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
This is Rebecca in spring Hill, Tennessee.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
And my morning show is your Morning Show with Michael
del Jorno.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
Bryan Gorman here with Dana McKay. In a moment, we'll
check him with our White House correspondent John Decker, who's
going to be coming to us live from Italy. He's
over there covering the G seven summit, and that's where
President Biden is right now. And I guess there was
a brawl that broke out in Italian parliaments. I mean,
you know, we have our moments on the floor of

(30:13):
the House and the Senate where things get a little contentious.
But there were a couple of moments within the I
would say the past year.

Speaker 6 (30:21):
I'm trying to remember. There was one with Matt Gates
in particular.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
I remember where there was a congressman who started to
kind of go after him.

Speaker 6 (30:28):
It was when the whole house speaker.

Speaker 5 (30:32):
Yeah, almost came to blows but not quite.

Speaker 6 (30:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
Yeah, And luckily cooler heads prevailed. But in Italy, as
they're hosting this G seven summit, they actually came to blows.

Speaker 5 (30:43):
I saw one video the other day. I can't It
was an Asian country where somebody didn't want to build
to pass and.

Speaker 10 (30:50):
The guy just runs out of.

Speaker 6 (30:52):
The building with the build bill.

Speaker 4 (30:55):
That's like remember when Jamal Bowman when he went through
the fire.

Speaker 5 (30:59):
Exhibit, Yeah, to set up the fire alarm.

Speaker 6 (31:01):
Yet to hold up that vote. It's something similar.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
So John Decker's over there covering the President and his
meetings and all of that, and then, I guess is
one of the perks of being a White House corresponding
to travel to all these different countries.

Speaker 6 (31:15):
You get to go see Italy. Now, I'm sure he's
very busy doing a lot of it.

Speaker 5 (31:18):
He doesn't get to do anything.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
Yeah, important reporting for all of us. In fact, he
better be really busy. He's running a couple of minutes
later here for our report, so he better be working
really hard over there in Italy. And that's why he
hasn't contacted us yet. But just in terms of getting
to travel over there. And you know, when the president
makes these foreign trips, it's got to be kind of
a cool part of the job. A couple other stories
that I want to get to while we're waiting to

(31:41):
hear from from John. Let me get to this story.
You know, President Biden took those executive actions on the
situation along the southern border, but we knew there were
going to be lawsuits that were going to be filed
pretty quickly that would like impact what he was trying

(32:02):
to do there. Even if you know, and I'm part
of this line of thinking, what's being done along the
southern border, even with those executive orders isn't enough. But
the American Civil Liberties Union suing the Biden administration over
the new asylum processing rules. Mark Mayfield has that report
for US.

Speaker 11 (32:20):
Last week, President Biden took executive action to temporarily limit
the number of people who can seek asylum per day. Now,
the ACLU is filing a lawsuit on behalf of two
immigration advocacy groups. In their complaint, attorneys argued Biden's new
asylum laws finally the congressional statute that allows migrants to
apply for asylum whether or not they enter at a
port of entry. The lawsuit also says Congress has never

(32:42):
permitted the executive branch to categorically ban asylum based on
where they.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Enter the US.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
You know, this has been one of the problems with
executive orders on some of these kinds of things. They're
going to end up being tied up in the courts.
And that's why while the President can certainly do more
along the southern border of Congress does eventually need to
act on some of this stuff too. There need to
be some law changes in order to straighten out our
immigration system. All right, let's go to the hotline and
bring in our White House correspondent John Decker, who checks

(33:08):
in live from Italy.

Speaker 6 (33:10):
John, thanks so much for joining us this morning.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
And any big development since we last spoke to you yesterday.

Speaker 9 (33:16):
Yes, there are some big developments actually at the start
of this g seventh summit the other G seven leaders
have agreed to a proposal put forward by President Biden
to use those Russian frozen assets the collateral for that
to provide fifty billion dollars in loans to Ukraine for
its war effort and also for reconstruction. That's the newest

(33:40):
development there. And then the President today, later today we'll
sign a ten year security agreement with President Zelensky of Ukraine.
So those are the two deliverables or takeaways from the summit.
Just as it gets underway here. It's the day one
of this two day summit.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
And of course the situation over there one of the
major topics for discussion at this summit. What are some
of the other priorities.

Speaker 9 (34:09):
Well, the other priority is the other conflict, that war
in Gaza. For Secretary of State Anthony Blincoln arrived here
in Italy yesterday, that's after he spent the past two
days prior to that in the Middle East, settling between
various world capitals in the Middle East, trying to get
buy in and trying to get pressure imposed upon Hamas

(34:32):
to accept this peace proposal put forward by President Biden
two weeks ago that would call for an immediate six
weeks ceasefire in Gaza and also the return of all
hostages that are held by Hamas. So all G seven
leaders are trying to put pressure on Hamas to accept

(34:52):
that deal. But I have to tell you, Ryan, they
keep moving the goldposts of Amas is in the sense
that what we heard from the Secretary of State is
that they keep adding amendments to this peace proposal that
the Secretary of State has said are unworkable. Those are
his words, and that as a result, the fighting continues,
The conflict continues in Gaza for the foreseeable future.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
Our White House correspondent John Decker coming to us live
from Italy for the G seven summit. John, appreciate the update, Thanks.

Speaker 9 (35:22):
So much, Thanks so much, Ryan, Bye bye.

Speaker 6 (35:24):
All right, and that's going to do it for us
here on this Thursday.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
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