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Assange and border crises…lessons unlearned
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Michael del Jorondan. Welcome to Tuesday, June the twenty fifth year.
About the Lord twenty twenty four. The Panthers in the
Balls are NHL and Men's NZAA baseball champions. On a
championship night last night, Southern Plains in the Southeast facing
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sweltering temperatures again this week, and Wiki Leak's founder Julian
Nissan reached a plea deal.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
He will soon be a free man.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Fun to have a resource like Lieutenant Colonel James Carafano.
He and his colleagues at the Heritage Foundation, I believe
are the finest military and foreign policy minds in America.
How he finds time for us, I'll never know, but
I'm grateful, going on fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Julian Desange, Well, actually, before we get to that, we
got a was it an email or a talkback? I
think it was a talkback. There was an actual phone
call from Gail.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
From Gail and she said that it is disrespectful to
refer to you as lieutenant colonel, that it demeans you.
We should just say colonel. But I thought that was
for on base, not off base.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
So when you're dressing somebody in the military, protocol is
like you don't like so a lieutenant colonel you would
just say colonel, or a lieutenant general you would just
say general. But when you're referring to the person it's
it's actually and you're describing him, it's okay to use
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the full rank.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Right, That's what I always That was what I always perceived.
But and then again, we're friends for so long. I
would have fought you would have corrected me. But all right,
so I was right but which do you prefer?
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I depertally care because I'm retired.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
It's my friend, Jimmy. What is anymore I do, Juliana Sange?
What is the lesson here?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Well, look, he's not a hero. I mean, I know
he's a folk hero to some people. But he broke
a law and he possibly you know, got a lot
of people kill and and the reality is is the
material he exposed, these were legitimate secrets and they and
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they didn't reveal any grand you know, conspiracy. I mean,
I'm not saying governments do anything wrong. I mean we
We've got plenty of evidence revealed, for example that the
FBI and the ci done handled the Trump Russian collusion
then correctly, right, But but what he did was wrong
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and U and I think that is the lesson here.
And and we we people can't just decide to release
secrets because they they want to. And if they if
they actually rEFInd criminal and wrong activity, there's there's lots
of ways to do that legally and correctly under the system.
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We have whistleblowers all the time that were put to
Congress and igs and other things. So he's not the
good guy here, and.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Is America standing are the American people safer from his actions.
And it's five years or whatever time served sufficient of justice.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah, I'm not the best one to judge that. I'm
not a lawyer. Uh. To me, the important thing is
that the principle is upheld here. He did something wrong,
he committed a crime. He has acknowledged that he committed
a crime. Uh. And and he suffered a lot for
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the many years that he tried to elude justice. So
and if you look at Snowden, you know, some people
think he's a hero too, and he's not. He's lived
a life of exile in Russia under you know. And
and someday the Russians won't need him anymore and he'll know,
he'll disappear. So this is not a grand and glorious
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thing to do. That you're not being noble here by
revealing US government secrets. And then I've been looking at
a clearance for decades. It's enormous for there are lots
of things I saw and I thought classified, but it's not.
It's not your thing to say. But if you see
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illegal acts, like I said, there's lots of ways, lots
of channels to report that.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
So that internal affairs not social media leaks. We did
a story I'll give you a chance to choke if
you can listen while you're talking. We did a story
of a twelve year old girl in Houston lured under
a bridge, raped for hours, sexually assaulted for hours before
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two Venezuelan and I legal immigrants then took her life.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
And then the.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Mother's response to that, and the DA's response to that,
it's a part. I mean immigration, we tend to make
just an issue that everybody takes an extreme side on. Oh,
and there's nothing in between, no conversation beyond them. Legal
immigration and assimilation, like a legal immigration, are issues of sovereignty,
issues of law and order, issues of national financial security,
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issues of homeland security. And for a mother in Houston,
it cost your daughter's life. Do you think we look
at this as as full viewed as we should, that
we missed something in America living in this matrix, in
these polarized bubbles, and therefore our very own children are
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vulnerable because of our debates rather than unity and solutions.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Look, I mean we set up massive systems in this
country to protect people for people who shouldn't be here,
and to then just say, well, it's inappropriate to mention
that they're illegal aliens. That's just nonsense because it is
demonstrably a failure of the system. And you cannot fix
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the system if you refuse to ignore that you failed.
And so for example, for somebody to say, which a
US government official did, well, we screened them, but we
didn't have any drug or information.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
It's not like that.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
That's not an excuse, that's an admission of failure. You
have failed that. You know, we have whole countries that
are allies in the United States that are in NATO,
and we require their citizens to have a visa that
comes to the United States to prove that they're not
a security risk. And these are NATO allies. And yet
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let me just let people walking across the southern border
and we think that's okay, And it's not okay. I
mean you you stand in long lines at TSA to
prove that you as an American citizen an art of
security risk. But people can just walk into the country
and walk on a TSI place with a piece of
paper with literally vezzing. That's a joke, just to prove
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and it's demonstrably a joke. Right under Trump, for example,
they remain in Mexico. Like nine percent of the people that.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Applied for.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Entry in the US as a refugee or recital they
were None of those claims were valid. So the notion
that somehow is like, well, you know what bad Apple
slips through now and again, that's that's literally not true.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Is there a better vision? Is there a better glimpse?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Then try to get into Mexico and its southern borders
the way you can get into America in Mexico's northern borders,
and you'll find two different enforcements of law. But the Venezuela,
this is from a region that you're very concerned about. Uh,
these are real enemies of America with really bad people
that they're sending here on purpose. So I mean these
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two slip in from an area that you have targeted
often as very dangerous areas. I mean, of all areas.
To your point, these all should be vetted.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Look, I mean, there's just an article in the New
Apposts the other day and it's not a secret because
of the story's not for months that you can go
and you can book executives VIP travel to illegally enter
the United States. So if you're a criminal alien, then
you want to come here. It's pretty cheap. I mean
it's like ten to fifteen thousand dollars. I mean, we
have one of these guys. He's illegally entered the United
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States sixteen times, sixteen times, and every time this happens,
it's advertising for more illegal entry in the United States.
When they announced this program, we're going to ambnesty, you know,
a couple hundred thousand people. That's more advertising for the cartels.
When they advertise, well, as long as it's under five
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thousand people a day, it's okay to come to the
United States. That's more advertising for cartels. Everything they've done
is this is really since Prohibition. This is the largest
government act that has created intentionally created criminal acts. It's
worth in prohibition. In the history of the United States,
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I'm struggling to think of anything on this scale where
the government actually did something so abusive and wrong and
created such a monumental problem for Americans.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
And it appears at this moment anyway, it's not election day,
but it appears to be a very high priority for
voters to finally address. And the very same issue that
got Donald Trump the presidency in twenty twenty six may
get it back for him. In twenty twenty four, we're
talking to Colonel James Carafunal from the Heritage Foundation. I
know it's the policy and the platform, which thus I
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know we're not partisan or try not to be partisan
when we're having deep discussions like this, But it's certainly
the left's policies, the anti police, good trouble, the early
release without parole, the open borders, and then a percentage
of America that goes along with it. But this is
not a democracy, a republic, a representative republic, and a
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government of laws. This is really an issue of law
and order, whether it's releasing people from jail or you know,
repeat offenders, or keeping forest borders with criminals from.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Around the world.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Is this kind of an identity issue more than anything?
I mean, I know we're struggling to figure out what
bathrooms people should go do, so identity is kind of
a big topic. But in this particular case, if you're
really going to address immigration, as I said earlier, it's
an issue of sovereignty, law and order, national financial security,
homeland security.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
It's really an initial of identity, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Look I mean, I think this is the key point
because if folks have been listening, you know, to your
show on day one that Biden was elected, we predicted
that this was going to happen. Saran also that this
would be the number one or among the top issues
for voters. And here's why he doesn't have a mandate
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to do any of this. I mean, if you go
back and roll of tape, I mean, you could predict
that Biden's immigration policies we're going to be bad, but
you couldn't predict that that we'd have absolutely open borders.
He didn't have a mandate to walk away from Afghanistan.
So Biden was and Obama did the same thing. If
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you go back and listen to rollo tapes on Obama's
first turn with McCain, there wasn't anything about you know,
gay marriage or any of his other stuff. The thing
I love about this election is that what these people
plan to do is openly on the table. Biden because
we've seen it. Trump, both because we've seen what he
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did in his first term, but also because he's very
explicit about his plans for many of these key issues.
And you know, those are really the best, the best
kind of elections, and the great danger is when you
have an election and the people that you elect do
the thing to do things that have nothing to do
with whether you elected them to do. And that's also
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why people are turning out of office. Plan Honestly, you know,
there are concerned. You know, there's a rise of conservative
governments all over the world. Some of them fail, and
the reason why they fail is once they get in office,
they don't governess conservatives, and then people go they vote
for you, why do they put you there to begin with?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
That may not be the case, Donald Trump, I think I'm.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
The sovereignty So I'm sorry. I just got to say.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
So.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
You know, some of the most liberal governments of the
world are in Europe and they're building walls that tail
on the wall that Trump built in the border with Mexico.
So all these people that say laws are evil, all
this is, you know, liberal governments are doing this, and
the reason why they're doing it is for their own survival,
their own sovereignty. So somehow that building the wall or
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protecting your border, so it's like an evil conservative thing.
Not in Europe, it's not.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
And we all lock our front doors and it's not
because we're evil or trying to protect something evil. We're
trying to protect people we love from evil that might
try to enter. I think the d in Houston nail
that he said our immigration system is broken, and if
there was ever a case that reflected that, it's this one,
a twelve year old and Wou's done to this twelve
year old girl before her life was taken? No father
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listening to me could bear to hear the details of
that story. But we dare go beyond our narrative bubbles
and solve this problem once and for all, and hopefully
this will be a resurgence towards that in the twenty
twenty four election. Lieutenant Colonel James Carafano with the Heritage Foundation.
You can read his work and his colleagues great work
at Heritage dot org. Thank you so much for your time.
I value it every week.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
This is your morning show with Michael del Chona for
just waking up. The heat wave continues.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Primary elections set today for Colorado, Utah, and New York
and Panthers and Balls are champions.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I think Aaron Rayal is joining us.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
I got fleased and I can't remember the country artist,
but I was like four hundred dollars for both my
kids to go see this act. If you've been to
a concert lately, you know the tickets are through the roof.
But people are kind of turning this around and making
it more than just a concert experience.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Tell us about it.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
Indeed, And actually the venues and the promoters are really
leaning into that corporate ticket, the wealthy concert goer. They
are juicing their offerings. Let me give you an example.
In Colorado Springs at the Ford Amphitheater at Nice Theater,
for two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, you can buy
eight seats around a fire pit. That sounds lovely. You
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are securing a lifetime ticket to any event that you
want to go to. There you get VIP parking, you
get premiere bathroom use, you get Hawaiian short ribs, you
get Bulgogi tacos, you get craft cocktails. But you are
literally buying real estate at this venue. And now the
Reason Live Nation, the Reason Note Live, which is another
company that offer these loves. This is because the ROI
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is about twenty to thirty percent on their investments, which
they are very happy about, so they say, sure, yeah,
we'll build these. But at the same time, when you
see concert tickets doubling over the past decade, and then
forty percent of that increase coming in the past five years,
as you know from buying your kids tickets so recently.
This is a difficult one to contend with. And I
have to tell you about La because that is like
the most incredible one to me. Bootsy Bellows, the posh
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night club in West Hollywood, opened a invite only speakeasy
at Sofi Stadium and.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I was like, Oh, that's cool.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
It's on the stage. You can stand on the stage. Wow,
I would love that. No, it's not. Apparently you don't
even have a line of sight of the stage. You
are behind the stage. I'm like, then why would you
go to the concert? They did a soft launch at
luke Combe's last week. But yeah, this is how bonkers
it's getting.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Well, we covered this, I think a couple of weeks ago,
that it was actually cheaper to go see Taylor Swift
in Europe than when she comes to your town.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Get a trip to Britain in the boat to boat
or France or something like that.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
Right, I get it, And that's incredible. I actually know
like several people that have seen her in Europe and
not here which is pretty nutty. And they're doing this
all over the Montro Jazz Festival that's in Leake, Geneva, Switzerland.
This one's pretty funny. Tell me how you would like this, Michael.
Apparently for twenty k they will pick you up from
a chartered flight in Geneva or Zurich. You get a
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Porsche Electric ride, a luxury suite and then you have
access to this special area next to the stage during
the performance.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
You would need the artist's income to be able to
ford that kind of concert package.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I yeah, Hi, I'm Michael.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
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morning show and I'm Michael del Jornam.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
That was a close call.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
I was doing Bruce Springsteen during the break and my
jaw got stuck.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
What happened? My tin got stuck. It's not good, but
I got it back in time to talk to Rory O'Neil.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
All Right, we got sizzling heat for the Southern Plains
and the southeast again today the Panthers involves their champions
after championship games last night in NHL and college baseball, respectively,
and then of course the attention of the entire week
is a debate Thursday night, and Roy O'Neil our national
Your Morning Show correspondents here just days away from the debate.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
What are Trump and Biden doing to prepare?
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Well, I know from an ABC report one of the
things they're working out with Biden is the ability to
stand up for ninetyasterve minutes.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Well we saw him do that during.
Speaker 7 (18:22):
The State Union, so yeah, and there will be a
lector and that they can lean on.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
So it is two very different ways of preparing.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Though.
Speaker 7 (18:31):
We see President Biden sort of locked down at Camp
David for a week getting ready for this debate, whereas
President Trump, former President Trump, is I mean a typical
campaign week, I'd say, rallies, fundraisers and the like, but
he has stepped up his briefings with some.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Policy advisors as of late. Now. You never know quite
how to read that, do you.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I'll never forget the Tulsa Golden Hurricanes made it all
the way to the Elite Eate in college basketball March Madness,
and we were in Austin for the Sweet sixteen in
the Elite eight game, and we weren't out late like partying.
We had gone to San Antonio on a little little
road trip on the night off and we watched the
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San Antonio Spurs play and then we took the drive
back to Austin to be there for the game the
next day. So we didn't arrive home, I say, home
to our hotel in Austin till about midnight, and I
remember seeing I can't remember the guy's name now, but
he was very recognizable, big tall power forward for the
North Carolina Tower Heels, and he and a bunch of
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the players were out walking in the streets after midnight,
and I looked at my wife and I said, hey, man,
if they're out partying not taking tell sasirius, maybe we're
going to shock the world to make it to the
Final four.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
No, they killed us.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
But the presumption would be Donald Trump, I know, is
he just business as usual, He's that up, he's that
ready for this. That's the difference between him and Biden,
or is he taking Biden too lightly? And you might
see him not prepared well enough. I think a lot
of Trump's preparation was last week too with Rubio, more
so than this week could be part of it.
Speaker 7 (20:05):
I think that you know that President Trump's concern should
bet the clock and those little lights that go from
green to red. And that's something he may not be
used to, is timing out his answers. You know, he's
great at rallying a crowd as well. That won't be
there in the room either. So yeah, it'll be interesting
to see which strategy works best.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
That's a great point, by the way, Roy O'Neil join us,
because when you're a riffer, your free thoughts and your
thoughts lead you to places this is I got X
amount of time I got to get right there. It's
more narrativized in messaging. That's going to be difficult for
Donald Trump, for Joe Biden. And there was a piece
in CNN about this, you know, the freezes, the loss
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of train of thought, those would be bad moments for him,
and I don't think there's any way to prepare for that.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
It just happens.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Hey, it happens to me at fifty nine every now
and then it happens to Joe Biden pretty regularly. Those
will be magnified greatly, I would think.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
I think my.
Speaker 7 (21:07):
Ultimate prediction though, is that both guys will do fine,
and that'll be so I think we're all going to
be tuning in like it's a NASCAR race.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
We all want to see the rest.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
No wreck, Oh all right, I mean I guess the yell.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Well, if the year, if past is prologue, this is
where I was at for a long time. I'm beginning
to agree with you now, just the way I'm seeing
them perform. But if past his prolog, what have we seen.
We've seen the guy that doesn't come to the debate
has always been the big winner.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
So my suspicion along is that both.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Might not do very well, or both might look old
or Donald Trump may be very contentious, Biden very old,
but both kind of negative, and RFK will be the
benefactor for having not been there the way Trump was
a benefactor for not being in into the primaries. But
I suspect you're right, maybe both will exceed our ex
I think Donald Trump has less pressure because I think
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there's way more for Joe Biden to lose.
Speaker 7 (22:08):
I'm concerned they'll both meet our expectations.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yeah, and then the final aspect of this is that
and which I think it was you and I that
talked about this earlier in the week, so you got
these new rules. They might be refreshing. They're not there
to return to Kennedy Nixon nostalgia. They're there to benefit
Joe Biden, but not talking over each other, no studio audience,
no temptation to play the studio audience.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
It might actually get substantive and be meaningful.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
The one thing they haven't addressed to make this more
like a debate is the moderators, because I don't think
anybody thinks Jake Tapper and Dana Bash are.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Unbiased typical moderators.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
But let me ask you this, do you think there's
a lot for CNN to lose if they handle this wrong?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
I think that's already biged into the cake as well.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
That if you love CNN you won't even notice it,
and if you already hate them, you're gonna find it
whether they do it or not.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yep, no win, no win, there no right and then
that comes out as a draw.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
The last thing is what might be the biggest topic
that doesn't come up an opinion piece, And of all places,
the Washington Post, who's trying to change its tone, don't
waste this Biden Trump debate. Make sure they answer the
big question, and that's the single word of debt, and
both are responsible for a lot of it. Do you
think debt will come up?
Speaker 7 (23:25):
I certainly hope so after that report came out just
last week from the CBO saying that fifty trillion dollar
mark is looming, So hopefully that will be a top
of mind issue that the moderators can address.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Roy O'Neil as the prep continues, T minus forty eight hours, another.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Great day of reporting, where you have a great day.
We'll talk again in the morning, y'all.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Waking out forty one minutes after the hour, these are
your top five stories of the day.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
To be or not to be nice? That's the big question.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Donald Trump was asking supporters, and Brian shook me all
night long. Is here with our road to the White House,
Road to the White House twenty twenty four. President Biden
and Donald Trump are preparing for the first debate of
the twenty twenty four presidential election. Trump has been hitting
the campaign trail, asking his supporters how he should handle it.
Speaker 8 (24:18):
Should I be tough and nasty and just say you're
the worst president in history?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Or should I be nice and let him speak.
Speaker 8 (24:27):
Trump has also been meeting with senators and allies to
go over policies likely to come up when the two
political rivals face off. Trump has met with Senators jd
Vance of Ohio and Marco Rubio of Florida, among others,
in recent days. Meanwhile, Biden is hunkering down with top
aids and advisors at Camp David in Washington. I'm Brian shook.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Wickie League's founder Julian Nsange has reached a plea deal
with the US Justice Department. He may be a free
man very soon. Mark Mayfield fills US in.
Speaker 9 (24:58):
According to unsealed court documents, Assage plans to plead guilty
to a single felon account of conspiring to unlawfully obtain
and disseminate classified information. The US charges were part of
one of the biggest publications of classified info in history,
with some of the classified and military diplomatic materials leaked
showing possible war crimes committed by American forces in Iraq.
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Assange has been held in a high security prison in
London for the last five years and should now be
free to return to Australia.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
I'm Mark Neefield.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Talking last half hour with Aaron Reale about ridiculous concert prices.
Not the case in the Big Apple tonight, Not with
Justin Timberlake, Lisa GB reports.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
So foggous.
Speaker 10 (25:37):
Timberlake is set to play two shows Tuesday and Wednesday
at Madison Square Garden. His performances come after his drunk
driving arrest and sag harbor last week. Well, it might
be easier for you to afford a ticket to see
one of his shows. As of Monday afternoon, tickets were
going for as low as one hundred and three dollars.
Well back on June third, they were selling for one
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hundred and eighty six bucks. Meantime. This past weekend, while
performing in Chicago, the forty three year old addressed his
d WI arrest when he told the audience it's been
a tough week. Lisa G NBC News Radio, New.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
York and the attorneys wearing referee striped jerseys come out
for the booth. After further review, Hunter Biden would like
a new trial. Lisa Taylor has More.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
The president's son, submitted his motion today. He previously submitted
an appeal in a Delaware federal court last week, then
quickly withdrew it without explanation. Hunter was found guilty for
unlawfully purchasing a gun while addicted to drugs. He faces
up to twenty five years in prison when he sentenced.
I'mly sa tailor.
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Tennessee Valls are men's NCAA College Baseball World Series champions,
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Comedian Ricky Gervais is sixty three and second record I
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Speaker 4 (28:05):
Hi, this is Jimmy Bourne, my morning show. This is
your morning Show with Michael Joe Jorno.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Thanks for waking up with us, and welcome to Tuesday,
June fifth, twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Good morning, I'm Michael del Jorna.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
We have the Florida Panthers Stanley Cup champions We have
the volunteers of the University of Tennessee men's baseball National
Championship that's their first ever. Got the heat wave continuing
in the plains in the southeast, and it's actually a
primary election day. We talk about being too late to
be relevant Colorado, Utah, New York. Although there is a
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big race in New York in the House of Representatives
that could kick out a squad member, Jamal Bowman, who
is facing losing today for his stance against Israel. So
that's kind of some of the big stories waking up
Vice President. First of all, I think, you know, the
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top of the ticket is what matters, and there is
a good portion of America thinks the top of the
ticket for the left is a guy that's not cognitively
up for the job. That's a problem. His stance against
Israel is a problem. The border chaos and crisis is
a problem in the economy, and inflation is a problem
for Donald Trump. The top of the ticket is pretty solid.
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In fact, I think, you know, made short work of
the primary process. All the gag orders seem to kind
of you know, give us just the right amount of
Donald Trump. So I think it might have actually helped him,
and then all the surrogates to get around the gag
order had a uniting effect. The more they do lawfare
and persecute him, the more they seem to unite behind him.
(29:40):
So I think my first question for Supreme Court bar
attorney and White House correspondent John Decker is how big
of a deal is this for Donald Trump?
Speaker 4 (29:49):
How what is this? Say?
Speaker 3 (29:51):
How big?
Speaker 2 (29:51):
How big of a deal is is VP?
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Oh, it's a big deal.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
It's it's the.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Big unknown that we don't know.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Well, we won't know actually for a few more weeks.
He's going to this out for a few more weeks
leading up to the Republican Convention, which happens in mid
July in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. So he said over the weekend
that he's already settled on his running mate, has not
indicated to that person who it is. There have been
hints that the person may indeed be at the Republican
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debate in Atlanta on Thursday night. I don't think that's
necessarily the case. And there's a report, Michael that three
people have made the shortlist, and let me tell you
who they are. Jd Vance, freshman senator from Ohio, Marco Rubio,
senior Senator from Florida, and Doug Bergham, the Republican governor
from North Dakota. I don't think it's going to be
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any of those individuals. That's just one report I think
coming from CNN. I think that Donald Trump has had
that name on his mind for quite some time. In fact,
he indicated he knew who his running mate's going to
be way back in January of this year. He said,
that's Fox News.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Well, that's got to be Senator Scott No.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
I like the speculation, but when you think about January
Senator Scott, who was actually still in the race for
the Republican nomination back in January, He's not going to
choose someone like that. I think he's choosing someone who
did not run against him in the twenty twenty four
election cycle. I think the number one criteria for Donald
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Trump this go around is loyalty. Who has demonstrated loyalty
to Donald Trump?
Speaker 3 (31:27):
You're looking for.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Jen who's that saying?
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Who is.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
He's loyal?
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Well, I guess he was loyal.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
He didn't say anything negative about Donald Trump. What does
he bring to the equation.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
He is someone on the male side.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Who is a lightning rod. You either like him or
you dislike him. I don't think he brings anything to
the table. Quite frankly, it depends John.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
What If you're most interested in the future of Trump
is and within the Republican Party, then he brings.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
The most, then you go with Donald Trump Junior. If
that's the case, you go with Donald Trump Junior. As
you're running man, you have not four years of Donald Trump,
you have twelve years of the Trump legacy and guarantees loyalty.
As far as this is concerned, is you just raised
something really important? Michael? How important his VP is this
particular cycle more than any other cycle I can think
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of in recent memory. Because Donald Trump only has four
years and whoever he chooses as his running mate has
a running head start for the Republican nomination in twenty
twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
This is a real gift.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
That he's going to bestow upon someone when he names
that person as his running mate.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
If I were to say, let's look at the past,
you know, of all the people he chose Mike Pence,
who's the Mike Pence now? Probably North Dakota Governor Doug Burgham.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Right, why do you say that just because it just
well no.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Well, yeah, yeah, a governor be kind of bland, you know,
is more than he says, kind of a thing.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
It kind of fits the bill I wanted to see
Telsey Gabbard.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
But to me, what makes what made Mike Pence Mike
Pence in twenty sixteen was the fact that he not
only served as governor, but he also had experience serving
in concert. So knew the people to help govern if
you're elected to the White House, and that's not anything
that Doug Burghram. Doug Burgham is going to be a
fish out of water if he is the running mate
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if Donald Trump gets elected, He's going to be introducing
literally himself to everyone he meets. That was not the
case with Mike Pence.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
White House correspondent John Decker, So, John, if we know
that the President saying, I've made my choice. Not going
to tell you yet, but I've made my choice. In fact,
I kind of made it up in January. There is
one we can eliminate as the South Dakota Governor, Christy
Nome because she says she's never been vetted.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Well, you shout your dog, you shoot yourself in the foot.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Yeah, I mean I think that she was certainly if
you're looking for gender balance in that top two of candidates,
But that talk about a self inflicted wound.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
This biography that she put.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Out, autobiography really damaging to her prospects in terms of
being Donald Trump's running mate. I think that the fact
that she said she's not been vetted, and vetting is
a real important part in modern politics. She is not
a consideration for Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Turns out, turns out, shooting your dog is deplorable.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
All right, great reporting as always, John Decker, one of
my favorites White House correspondent, Thank you so much for
your time today. I'm gonna go with I'm still holding
out hope for Avec or Telsey Gabbard for two different
I don't think it's Nicky Haley. I suspect it's Burghum.
I'm gonna go with Senator Tim Scott South Carolina. That's
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going to be the pick and see what the odds are.
Final answer there, I hit my buzzer.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
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sweltering temperatures again this week, and Wiki Leak's founder Julian
Nissan reached a plea deal.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
He will soon be a free man.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Fun to have a resource like Lieutenant Colonel James Carafano.
He and his colleagues at the Heritage Foundation, I believe
are the finest military and foreign policy minds in America.
How he finds time for us, I'll never know, but
I'm grateful, going on fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Julian Desange, Well, actually, before we get to that, we
got a was it an email or a talkback? I
think it was a talkback. There was an actual phone
call from Gail.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
From Gail and she said that it is disrespectful to
refer to you as lieutenant colonel, that it demeans you.
We should just say colonel. But I thought that was
for on base, not off base.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
So when you're dressing somebody in the military, protocol is
like you don't like so a lieutenant colonel you would
just say colonel, or a lieutenant general you would just
say general. But when you're referring to the person it's
it's actually and you're describing him, it's okay to use
(02:08):
the full rank.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Right, That's what I always That was what I always perceived.
But and then again, we're friends for so long. I
would have fought you would have corrected me. But all right,
so I was right but which do you prefer?
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I depertally care because I'm retired.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
It's my friend, Jimmy. What is anymore I do, Juliana Sange?
What is the lesson here?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Well, look, he's not a hero. I mean, I know
he's a folk hero to some people. But he broke
a law and he possibly you know, got a lot
of people kill and and the reality is is the
material he exposed, these were legitimate secrets and they and
(02:57):
they didn't reveal any grand you know, conspiracy. I mean,
I'm not saying governments do anything wrong. I mean we
We've got plenty of evidence revealed, for example that the
FBI and the ci done handled the Trump Russian collusion
then correctly, right, But but what he did was wrong
(03:19):
and U and I think that is the lesson here.
And and we we people can't just decide to release
secrets because they they want to. And if they if
they actually rEFInd criminal and wrong activity, there's there's lots
of ways to do that legally and correctly under the system.
(03:40):
We have whistleblowers all the time that were put to
Congress and igs and other things. So he's not the
good guy here, and.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Is America standing are the American people safer from his actions.
And it's five years or whatever time served sufficient of justice.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah, I'm not the best one to judge that. I'm
not a lawyer. Uh. To me, the important thing is
that the principle is upheld here. He did something wrong,
he committed a crime. He has acknowledged that he committed
a crime. Uh. And and he suffered a lot for
(04:21):
the many years that he tried to elude justice. So
and if you look at Snowden, you know, some people
think he's a hero too, and he's not. He's lived
a life of exile in Russia under you know. And
and someday the Russians won't need him anymore and he'll know,
he'll disappear. So this is not a grand and glorious
(04:45):
thing to do. That you're not being noble here by
revealing US government secrets. And then I've been looking at
a clearance for decades. It's enormous for there are lots
of things I saw and I thought classified, but it's not.
It's not your thing to say. But if you see
(05:07):
illegal acts, like I said, there's lots of ways, lots
of channels to report that.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
So that internal affairs not social media leaks. We did
a story I'll give you a chance to choke if
you can listen while you're talking. We did a story
of a twelve year old girl in Houston lured under
a bridge, raped for hours, sexually assaulted for hours before
(05:34):
two Venezuelan and I legal immigrants then took her life.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
And then the.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Mother's response to that, and the DA's response to that,
it's a part. I mean immigration, we tend to make
just an issue that everybody takes an extreme side on. Oh,
and there's nothing in between, no conversation beyond them. Legal
immigration and assimilation, like a legal immigration, are issues of sovereignty,
issues of law and order, issues of national financial security,
(05:59):
issues of homeland security. And for a mother in Houston,
it cost your daughter's life. Do you think we look
at this as as full viewed as we should, that
we missed something in America living in this matrix, in
these polarized bubbles, and therefore our very own children are
(06:20):
vulnerable because of our debates rather than unity and solutions.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Look, I mean we set up massive systems in this
country to protect people for people who shouldn't be here,
and to then just say, well, it's inappropriate to mention
that they're illegal aliens. That's just nonsense because it is
demonstrably a failure of the system. And you cannot fix
(06:49):
the system if you refuse to ignore that you failed.
And so for example, for somebody to say, which a
US government official did, well, we screened them, but we
didn't have any drug or information.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
It's not like that.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
That's not an excuse, that's an admission of failure. You
have failed that. You know, we have whole countries that
are allies in the United States that are in NATO,
and we require their citizens to have a visa that
comes to the United States to prove that they're not
a security risk. And these are NATO allies. And yet
(07:25):
let me just let people walking across the southern border
and we think that's okay, And it's not okay. I
mean you you stand in long lines at TSA to
prove that you as an American citizen an art of
security risk. But people can just walk into the country
and walk on a TSI place with a piece of
paper with literally vezzing. That's a joke, just to prove
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and it's demonstrably a joke. Right under Trump, for example,
they remain in Mexico. Like nine percent of the people that.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Applied for.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Entry in the US as a refugee or recital they
were None of those claims were valid. So the notion
that somehow is like, well, you know what bad Apple
slips through now and again, that's that's literally not true.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Is there a better vision? Is there a better glimpse?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Then try to get into Mexico and its southern borders
the way you can get into America in Mexico's northern borders,
and you'll find two different enforcements of law. But the Venezuela,
this is from a region that you're very concerned about. Uh,
these are real enemies of America with really bad people
that they're sending here on purpose. So I mean these
(08:42):
two slip in from an area that you have targeted
often as very dangerous areas. I mean, of all areas.
To your point, these all should be vetted.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Look, I mean, there's just an article in the New
Apposts the other day and it's not a secret because
of the story's not for months that you can go
and you can book executives VIP travel to illegally enter
the United States. So if you're a criminal alien, then
you want to come here. It's pretty cheap. I mean
it's like ten to fifteen thousand dollars. I mean, we
have one of these guys. He's illegally entered the United
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States sixteen times, sixteen times, and every time this happens,
it's advertising for more illegal entry in the United States.
When they announced this program, we're going to ambnesty, you know,
a couple hundred thousand people. That's more advertising for the cartels.
When they advertise, well, as long as it's under five
(09:37):
thousand people a day, it's okay to come to the
United States. That's more advertising for cartels. Everything they've done
is this is really since Prohibition. This is the largest
government act that has created intentionally created criminal acts. It's
worth in prohibition. In the history of the United States,
(10:00):
I'm struggling to think of anything on this scale where
the government actually did something so abusive and wrong and
created such a monumental problem for Americans.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
And it appears at this moment anyway, it's not election day,
but it appears to be a very high priority for
voters to finally address. And the very same issue that
got Donald Trump the presidency in twenty twenty six may
get it back for him. In twenty twenty four, we're
talking to Colonel James Carafunal from the Heritage Foundation. I
know it's the policy and the platform, which thus I
(10:32):
know we're not partisan or try not to be partisan
when we're having deep discussions like this, But it's certainly
the left's policies, the anti police, good trouble, the early
release without parole, the open borders, and then a percentage
of America that goes along with it. But this is
not a democracy, a republic, a representative republic, and a
(10:54):
government of laws. This is really an issue of law
and order, whether it's releasing people from jail or you know,
repeat offenders, or keeping forest borders with criminals from.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Around the world.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Is this kind of an identity issue more than anything?
I mean, I know we're struggling to figure out what
bathrooms people should go do, so identity is kind of
a big topic. But in this particular case, if you're
really going to address immigration, as I said earlier, it's
an issue of sovereignty, law and order, national financial security,
homeland security.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
It's really an initial of identity, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Look I mean, I think this is the key point
because if folks have been listening, you know, to your
show on day one that Biden was elected, we predicted
that this was going to happen. Saran also that this
would be the number one or among the top issues
for voters. And here's why he doesn't have a mandate
(11:52):
to do any of this. I mean, if you go
back and roll of tape, I mean, you could predict
that Biden's immigration policies we're going to be bad, but
you couldn't predict that that we'd have absolutely open borders.
He didn't have a mandate to walk away from Afghanistan.
So Biden was and Obama did the same thing. If
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you go back and listen to rollo tapes on Obama's
first turn with McCain, there wasn't anything about you know,
gay marriage or any of his other stuff. The thing
I love about this election is that what these people
plan to do is openly on the table. Biden because
we've seen it. Trump, both because we've seen what he
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did in his first term, but also because he's very
explicit about his plans for many of these key issues.
And you know, those are really the best, the best
kind of elections, and the great danger is when you
have an election and the people that you elect do
the thing to do things that have nothing to do
with whether you elected them to do. And that's also
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why people are turning out of office. Plan Honestly, you know,
there are concerned. You know, there's a rise of conservative
governments all over the world. Some of them fail, and
the reason why they fail is once they get in office,
they don't governess conservatives, and then people go they vote
for you, why do they put you there to begin with?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
That may not be the case, Donald Trump, I think I'm.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
The sovereignty So I'm sorry. I just got to say.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
So.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
You know, some of the most liberal governments of the
world are in Europe and they're building walls that tail
on the wall that Trump built in the border with Mexico.
So all these people that say laws are evil, all
this is, you know, liberal governments are doing this, and
the reason why they're doing it is for their own survival,
their own sovereignty. So somehow that building the wall or
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protecting your border, so it's like an evil conservative thing.
Not in Europe, it's not.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
And we all lock our front doors and it's not
because we're evil or trying to protect something evil. We're
trying to protect people we love from evil that might
try to enter. I think the d in Houston nail
that he said our immigration system is broken, and if
there was ever a case that reflected that, it's this one,
a twelve year old and Wou's done to this twelve
year old girl before her life was taken? No father
(14:03):
listening to me could bear to hear the details of
that story. But we dare go beyond our narrative bubbles
and solve this problem once and for all, and hopefully
this will be a resurgence towards that in the twenty
twenty four election. Lieutenant Colonel James Carafano with the Heritage Foundation.
You can read his work and his colleagues great work
at Heritage dot org. Thank you so much for your time.
I value it every week.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
This is your morning show with Michael del Chona for
just waking up. The heat wave continues.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Primary elections set today for Colorado, Utah, and New York
and Panthers and Balls are champions.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I think Aaron Rayal is joining us.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
I got fleased and I can't remember the country artist,
but I was like four hundred dollars for both my
kids to go see this act. If you've been to
a concert lately, you know the tickets are through the roof.
But people are kind of turning this around and making
it more than just a concert experience.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Tell us about it.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
Indeed, And actually the venues and the promoters are really
leaning into that corporate ticket, the wealthy concert goer. They
are juicing their offerings. Let me give you an example.
In Colorado Springs at the Ford Amphitheater at Nice Theater,
for two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, you can buy
eight seats around a fire pit. That sounds lovely. You
(15:18):
are securing a lifetime ticket to any event that you
want to go to. There you get VIP parking, you
get premiere bathroom use, you get Hawaiian short ribs, you
get Bulgogi tacos, you get craft cocktails. But you are
literally buying real estate at this venue. And now the
Reason Live Nation, the Reason Note Live, which is another
company that offer these loves. This is because the ROI
(15:42):
is about twenty to thirty percent on their investments, which
they are very happy about, so they say, sure, yeah,
we'll build these. But at the same time, when you
see concert tickets doubling over the past decade, and then
forty percent of that increase coming in the past five years,
as you know from buying your kids tickets so recently.
This is a difficult one to contend with. And I
have to tell you about La because that is like
the most incredible one to me. Bootsy Bellows, the posh
(16:04):
night club in West Hollywood, opened a invite only speakeasy
at Sofi Stadium and.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I was like, Oh, that's cool.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
It's on the stage. You can stand on the stage. Wow,
I would love that. No, it's not. Apparently you don't
even have a line of sight of the stage. You
are behind the stage. I'm like, then why would you
go to the concert? They did a soft launch at
luke Combe's last week. But yeah, this is how bonkers
it's getting.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Well, we covered this, I think a couple of weeks ago,
that it was actually cheaper to go see Taylor Swift
in Europe than when she comes to your town.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Get a trip to Britain in the boat to boat
or France or something like that.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
Right, I get it, And that's incredible. I actually know
like several people that have seen her in Europe and
not here which is pretty nutty. And they're doing this
all over the Montro Jazz Festival that's in Leake, Geneva, Switzerland.
This one's pretty funny. Tell me how you would like this, Michael.
Apparently for twenty k they will pick you up from
a chartered flight in Geneva or Zurich. You get a
(17:00):
Porsche Electric ride, a luxury suite and then you have
access to this special area next to the stage during
the performance.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
You would need the artist's income to be able to
ford that kind of concert package.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I yeah, Hi, I'm Michael.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
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morning show and I'm Michael del Jornam.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
That was a close call.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
I was doing Bruce Springsteen during the break and my
jaw got stuck.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
What happened? My tin got stuck. It's not good, but
I got it back in time to talk to Rory O'Neil.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
All Right, we got sizzling heat for the Southern Plains
and the southeast again today the Panthers involves their champions
after championship games last night in NHL and college baseball, respectively,
and then of course the attention of the entire week
is a debate Thursday night, and Roy O'Neil our national
Your Morning Show correspondents here just days away from the debate.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
What are Trump and Biden doing to prepare?
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Well, I know from an ABC report one of the
things they're working out with Biden is the ability to
stand up for ninetyasterve minutes.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Well we saw him do that during.
Speaker 7 (18:22):
The State Union, so yeah, and there will be a
lector and that they can lean on.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
So it is two very different ways of preparing.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Though.
Speaker 7 (18:31):
We see President Biden sort of locked down at Camp
David for a week getting ready for this debate, whereas
President Trump, former President Trump, is I mean a typical
campaign week, I'd say, rallies, fundraisers and the like, but
he has stepped up his briefings with some.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Policy advisors as of late. Now. You never know quite
how to read that, do you.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I'll never forget the Tulsa Golden Hurricanes made it all
the way to the Elite Eate in college basketball March Madness,
and we were in Austin for the Sweet sixteen in
the Elite eight game, and we weren't out late like partying.
We had gone to San Antonio on a little little
road trip on the night off and we watched the
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San Antonio Spurs play and then we took the drive
back to Austin to be there for the game the
next day. So we didn't arrive home, I say, home
to our hotel in Austin till about midnight, and I
remember seeing I can't remember the guy's name now, but
he was very recognizable, big tall power forward for the
North Carolina Tower Heels, and he and a bunch of
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the players were out walking in the streets after midnight,
and I looked at my wife and I said, hey, man,
if they're out partying not taking tell sasirius, maybe we're
going to shock the world to make it to the
Final four.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
No, they killed us.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
But the presumption would be Donald Trump, I know, is
he just business as usual, He's that up, he's that
ready for this. That's the difference between him and Biden,
or is he taking Biden too lightly? And you might
see him not prepared well enough. I think a lot
of Trump's preparation was last week too with Rubio, more
so than this week could be part of it.
Speaker 7 (20:05):
I think that you know that President Trump's concern should
bet the clock and those little lights that go from
green to red. And that's something he may not be
used to, is timing out his answers. You know, he's
great at rallying a crowd as well. That won't be
there in the room either. So yeah, it'll be interesting
to see which strategy works best.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
That's a great point, by the way, Roy O'Neil join us,
because when you're a riffer, your free thoughts and your
thoughts lead you to places this is I got X
amount of time I got to get right there. It's
more narrativized in messaging. That's going to be difficult for
Donald Trump, for Joe Biden. And there was a piece
in CNN about this, you know, the freezes, the loss
(20:54):
of train of thought, those would be bad moments for him,
and I don't think there's any way to prepare for that.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
It just happens.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Hey, it happens to me at fifty nine every now
and then it happens to Joe Biden pretty regularly. Those
will be magnified greatly, I would think.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
I think my.
Speaker 7 (21:07):
Ultimate prediction though, is that both guys will do fine,
and that'll be so I think we're all going to
be tuning in like it's a NASCAR race.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
We all want to see the rest.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
No wreck, Oh all right, I mean I guess the yell.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Well, if the year, if past is prologue, this is
where I was at for a long time. I'm beginning
to agree with you now, just the way I'm seeing
them perform. But if past his prolog, what have we seen.
We've seen the guy that doesn't come to the debate
has always been the big winner.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
So my suspicion along is that both.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Might not do very well, or both might look old
or Donald Trump may be very contentious, Biden very old,
but both kind of negative, and RFK will be the
benefactor for having not been there the way Trump was
a benefactor for not being in into the primaries. But
I suspect you're right, maybe both will exceed our ex
I think Donald Trump has less pressure because I think
(22:05):
there's way more for Joe Biden to lose.
Speaker 7 (22:08):
I'm concerned they'll both meet our expectations.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yeah, and then the final aspect of this is that
and which I think it was you and I that
talked about this earlier in the week, so you got
these new rules. They might be refreshing. They're not there
to return to Kennedy Nixon nostalgia. They're there to benefit
Joe Biden, but not talking over each other, no studio audience,
no temptation to play the studio audience.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
It might actually get substantive and be meaningful.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
The one thing they haven't addressed to make this more
like a debate is the moderators, because I don't think
anybody thinks Jake Tapper and Dana Bash are.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Unbiased typical moderators.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
But let me ask you this, do you think there's
a lot for CNN to lose if they handle this wrong?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
I think that's already biged into the cake as well.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
That if you love CNN you won't even notice it,
and if you already hate them, you're gonna find it
whether they do it or not.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yep, no win, no win, there no right and then
that comes out as a draw.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
The last thing is what might be the biggest topic
that doesn't come up an opinion piece, And of all places,
the Washington Post, who's trying to change its tone, don't
waste this Biden Trump debate. Make sure they answer the
big question, and that's the single word of debt, and
both are responsible for a lot of it. Do you
think debt will come up?
Speaker 7 (23:25):
I certainly hope so after that report came out just
last week from the CBO saying that fifty trillion dollar
mark is looming, So hopefully that will be a top
of mind issue that the moderators can address.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Roy O'Neil as the prep continues, T minus forty eight hours, another.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Great day of reporting, where you have a great day.
We'll talk again in the morning, y'all.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Waking out forty one minutes after the hour, these are
your top five stories of the day.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
To be or not to be nice? That's the big question.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Donald Trump was asking supporters, and Brian shook me all
night long. Is here with our road to the White House,
Road to the White House twenty twenty four. President Biden
and Donald Trump are preparing for the first debate of
the twenty twenty four presidential election. Trump has been hitting
the campaign trail, asking his supporters how he should handle it.
Speaker 8 (24:18):
Should I be tough and nasty and just say you're
the worst president in history?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Or should I be nice and let him speak.
Speaker 8 (24:27):
Trump has also been meeting with senators and allies to
go over policies likely to come up when the two
political rivals face off. Trump has met with Senators jd
Vance of Ohio and Marco Rubio of Florida, among others,
in recent days. Meanwhile, Biden is hunkering down with top
aids and advisors at Camp David in Washington. I'm Brian shook.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Wickie League's founder Julian Nsange has reached a plea deal
with the US Justice Department. He may be a free
man very soon. Mark Mayfield fills US in.
Speaker 9 (24:58):
According to unsealed court documents, Assage plans to plead guilty
to a single felon account of conspiring to unlawfully obtain
and disseminate classified information. The US charges were part of
one of the biggest publications of classified info in history,
with some of the classified and military diplomatic materials leaked
showing possible war crimes committed by American forces in Iraq.
(25:19):
Assange has been held in a high security prison in
London for the last five years and should now be
free to return to Australia.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
I'm Mark Neefield.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Talking last half hour with Aaron Reale about ridiculous concert prices.
Not the case in the Big Apple tonight, Not with
Justin Timberlake, Lisa GB reports.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
So foggous.
Speaker 10 (25:37):
Timberlake is set to play two shows Tuesday and Wednesday
at Madison Square Garden. His performances come after his drunk
driving arrest and sag harbor last week. Well, it might
be easier for you to afford a ticket to see
one of his shows. As of Monday afternoon, tickets were
going for as low as one hundred and three dollars.
Well back on June third, they were selling for one
(25:57):
hundred and eighty six bucks. Meantime. This past weekend, while
performing in Chicago, the forty three year old addressed his
d WI arrest when he told the audience it's been
a tough week. Lisa G NBC News Radio, New.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
York and the attorneys wearing referee striped jerseys come out
for the booth. After further review, Hunter Biden would like
a new trial. Lisa Taylor has More.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
The president's son, submitted his motion today. He previously submitted
an appeal in a Delaware federal court last week, then
quickly withdrew it without explanation. Hunter was found guilty for
unlawfully purchasing a gun while addicted to drugs. He faces
up to twenty five years in prison when he sentenced.
I'mly sa tailor.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Oh Bo.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Bum bumm bom Bompu surfing icon is dead after a
shark attack in Hawaii.
Speaker 11 (26:45):
Michael Kastner with the report Tomayo Perry was attacked Sunday
off a wahoo. The forty nine year old's body was
found near a beach, missing an arm and a leg.
First responders attempted to resuscitate him, but it was no use.
Perry had also worked as an appearing in the Pirates
of the Caribbean franchise, Blue Crush Lost, and a number
of other productions.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
I'm Michael Kasner.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Tennessee Valls are men's NCAA College Baseball World Series champions,
winning seven to six last night over the Aggies of Texas,
A and M. It is the first baseball national championship
in university history. And for the Florida Panthers, they got
their first championship in thirty year franchise history. Two to
one over Edmonton they take Game seven, they hoist the
(27:28):
Lord Stanley Cup and the Oilers Connor McDavid won the
Consmoit Trophy for the MVP of all the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Cities of your.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Morning show, Interest in Baseball, cards won Raise one, Guardians.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
One, Mariners lost, Nats lost, Rangers lost, d Backs were off.
And birthdays.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Supreme Court Justice Sonya Soda Mayor is seventy years old today.
Comedian Ricky Gervais is sixty three and second record I
ever bought. Daughter of Simon, of Simon, Simon and Schusta.
Thank you, Carly Simon eighty one years old today. And
if it's your birthday, Happy birthday. We are so glad
you were born.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Hi, this is Jimmy Bourne, my morning show. This is
your morning Show with Michael Joe Jorno.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Thanks for waking up with us, and welcome to Tuesday,
June fifth, twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Good morning, I'm Michael del Jorna.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
We have the Florida Panthers Stanley Cup champions We have
the volunteers of the University of Tennessee men's baseball National
Championship that's their first ever. Got the heat wave continuing
in the plains in the southeast, and it's actually a
primary election day. We talk about being too late to
be relevant Colorado, Utah, New York. Although there is a
(28:38):
big race in New York in the House of Representatives
that could kick out a squad member, Jamal Bowman, who
is facing losing today for his stance against Israel. So
that's kind of some of the big stories waking up
Vice President. First of all, I think, you know, the
(28:58):
top of the ticket is what matters, and there is
a good portion of America thinks the top of the
ticket for the left is a guy that's not cognitively
up for the job. That's a problem. His stance against
Israel is a problem. The border chaos and crisis is
a problem in the economy, and inflation is a problem
for Donald Trump. The top of the ticket is pretty solid.
(29:19):
In fact, I think, you know, made short work of
the primary process. All the gag orders seem to kind
of you know, give us just the right amount of
Donald Trump. So I think it might have actually helped him,
and then all the surrogates to get around the gag
order had a uniting effect. The more they do lawfare
and persecute him, the more they seem to unite behind him.
(29:40):
So I think my first question for Supreme Court bar
attorney and White House correspondent John Decker is how big
of a deal is this for Donald Trump?
Speaker 4 (29:49):
How what is this? Say?
Speaker 3 (29:51):
How big?
Speaker 2 (29:51):
How big of a deal is is VP?
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Oh, it's a big deal.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
It's it's the.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Big unknown that we don't know.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Well, we won't know actually for a few more weeks.
He's going to this out for a few more weeks
leading up to the Republican Convention, which happens in mid
July in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. So he said over the weekend
that he's already settled on his running mate, has not
indicated to that person who it is. There have been
hints that the person may indeed be at the Republican
(30:19):
debate in Atlanta on Thursday night. I don't think that's
necessarily the case. And there's a report, Michael that three
people have made the shortlist, and let me tell you
who they are. Jd Vance, freshman senator from Ohio, Marco Rubio,
senior Senator from Florida, and Doug Bergham, the Republican governor
from North Dakota. I don't think it's going to be
(30:40):
any of those individuals. That's just one report I think
coming from CNN. I think that Donald Trump has had
that name on his mind for quite some time. In fact,
he indicated he knew who his running mate's going to
be way back in January of this year. He said,
that's Fox News.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Well, that's got to be Senator Scott No.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
I like the speculation, but when you think about January
Senator Scott, who was actually still in the race for
the Republican nomination back in January, He's not going to
choose someone like that. I think he's choosing someone who
did not run against him in the twenty twenty four
election cycle. I think the number one criteria for Donald
(31:21):
Trump this go around is loyalty. Who has demonstrated loyalty
to Donald Trump?
Speaker 3 (31:27):
You're looking for.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Jen who's that saying?
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Who is.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
He's loyal?
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Well, I guess he was loyal.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
He didn't say anything negative about Donald Trump. What does
he bring to the equation.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
He is someone on the male side.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Who is a lightning rod. You either like him or
you dislike him. I don't think he brings anything to
the table. Quite frankly, it depends John.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
What If you're most interested in the future of Trump
is and within the Republican Party, then he brings.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
The most, then you go with Donald Trump Junior. If
that's the case, you go with Donald Trump Junior. As
you're running man, you have not four years of Donald Trump,
you have twelve years of the Trump legacy and guarantees loyalty.
As far as this is concerned, is you just raised
something really important? Michael? How important his VP is this
particular cycle more than any other cycle I can think
(32:16):
of in recent memory. Because Donald Trump only has four
years and whoever he chooses as his running mate has
a running head start for the Republican nomination in twenty
twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
This is a real gift.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
That he's going to bestow upon someone when he names
that person as his running mate.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
If I were to say, let's look at the past,
you know, of all the people he chose Mike Pence,
who's the Mike Pence now? Probably North Dakota Governor Doug Burgham.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Right, why do you say that just because it just
well no.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Well, yeah, yeah, a governor be kind of bland, you know,
is more than he says, kind of a thing.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
It kind of fits the bill I wanted to see
Telsey Gabbard.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
But to me, what makes what made Mike Pence Mike
Pence in twenty sixteen was the fact that he not
only served as governor, but he also had experience serving
in concert. So knew the people to help govern if
you're elected to the White House, and that's not anything
that Doug Burghram. Doug Burgham is going to be a
fish out of water if he is the running mate
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if Donald Trump gets elected, He's going to be introducing
literally himself to everyone he meets. That was not the
case with Mike Pence.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
White House correspondent John Decker, So, John, if we know
that the President saying, I've made my choice. Not going
to tell you yet, but I've made my choice. In fact,
I kind of made it up in January. There is
one we can eliminate as the South Dakota Governor, Christy
Nome because she says she's never been vetted.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Well, you shout your dog, you shoot yourself in the foot.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Yeah, I mean I think that she was certainly if
you're looking for gender balance in that top two of candidates,
But that talk about a self inflicted wound.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
This biography that she put.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Out, autobiography really damaging to her prospects in terms of
being Donald Trump's running mate. I think that the fact
that she said she's not been vetted, and vetting is
a real important part in modern politics. She is not
a consideration for Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Turns out, turns out, shooting your dog is deplorable.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
All right, great reporting as always, John Decker, one of
my favorites White House correspondent, Thank you so much for
your time today. I'm gonna go with I'm still holding
out hope for Avec or Telsey Gabbard for two different
I don't think it's Nicky Haley. I suspect it's Burghum.
I'm gonna go with Senator Tim Scott South Carolina. That's
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going to be the pick and see what the odds are.
Final answer there, I hit my buzzer.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
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