June 27, 2024 • 34 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
This is your morning show with Michael del Trump and
welcome one and all to Thursday, June the twenty seventh,
Hell Lord, twenty twenty four. It's Debate Day. I am
Michael del Journo, and this is your morning show. I
wonder what we'll all be talking about exactly at this
time tomorrow. Well, it all depends on what happens tonight
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in the debate. I know a lot of people have
already made their mind up, but they still want to
watch a lot of people want to see a car wreck.
It's like watching a race and wanting to see a wreck. Well,
Joe Biden Freese, will he get too tired? Will he
be sleepy? Will Donald Trump say something outrageous, will all
happen Tonight, nine Eastern, eighth Central From this Quiet CNN studio,
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David Bonson is joining us. He is a market money whiz.
And if the economy is in the economy and border
continue to be number one and number two issues that
are most important to those who plan to vote. If
that's the case this election cycle, what should we be
listening for in tonight's debate, David.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Well, we should be listening for this, even if it
isn't what ends up being most important to people. It
would be fascinating if these candidates would be willing to
have a debate, and if it gets into those issues, yes, immigration, yes,
the economy, but all sorts of issues. My concern would
be that it will be very little about issues. And
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my bigger concern is that that's going to be just
fine for everyone that most people themselves.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
You you just said something really brilliant, because let's say
it is substantive. Let's say both do perform substanatively well
and they don't give you any clown show freak show.
I think the viewers will be disappointed.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Well, I think you're right. For a certain portion of
the population, and it's there. It's it's a predominant portion
that they want a food fight, they want entertainment, that
there's something performative. I think that the issue around issues
is that this election, even when people say immigration's most important,
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or maybe people on the left say abortions most important,
then fundamentally they're not totally being honest with themselves. That
there is a sort of personal component, taking sides component
that is really embedded with about ninety percent of the
voting population. And then there are a fair amount of
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people that are what they call so called independent moderates
sometimes they call them double haters, that they're not real
fond of buy the candidate, and then there's going to
be something that pushes those people over the edge, and
that that thing is going to be what really determines
the outcome of the election. That is my opinion, Michael.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I believe that there is some middle.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Segment of the population in about three or four states
it will determine the election. And that's why I actually
think the behavior and temperament matters, because if you're a
big issues of immigration, you already support Trump unless you're
an idiot. If he's an issue is you want the rights.
If you want the right to an abortion, then you
already support Biden unless you're an idiot. But if your
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issue is you want to see candidates act a certain way,
then Biden's senility and health and Trump's maturity and the behavior,
those things end up mattering more side.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I often talk about the parallels to nineteen sixty eight,
right all the way to the convention being in Chicago.
But how divided America is. How you have somebody in
office it's refusing to leave at the moment and seemingly
can't win. You even have OURFK junior where OURFK once occupied.
But remember what Nixon coined, and I think it was
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a game changer. While they were having riots in Chicago,
Nixon was talking about the silent center, and I think
the silent center is what you were just describing. And
they'll be watching. But you know, this kind is more
of the theologian you than the money with you. There
are two kinds of people, people that are emotional and
people who are intellectual and factual. If you bring up
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an issue right away, the room's divided. If you just
played the feelings game, which some people play, you know
you can nuance and maybe win a debate and not
really impact a vote. It'll be interesting see how that
plays out. If they do bring up the economy, the
one word they both need to address and both are
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responsible for debt, that I would think that would be
the thing you would be most interested in hearing about
that really impacts the economy.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well, I suppose that theory I would be, except for
in my case, I wouldn't believe anything either of them
said anyways, and so it wouldn't be all that interesting
to me.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
But yes, you're right, that is so s important.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Issue and it ought to be addressed, and I would
add to the debt. Another part of it that they
both they both said they're not going to address is
entitlements because at the end of the day, when we
are talking about thirty four trillion of debt, we're not
even referring to the unfunded viability going forward to Medicare
and social security commitments.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
And that we have an election in which the.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Largest fiscal issue in the country that everybody involved is
willing to ignore it and say it's off life. I
think it's both economically but also morally unforgivable.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Well, you remember that was the big argument between Gore
and Bush. Bush won by a hanging chad later determined
by courts. Then nine to eleven happened, and we have
never since come back to the unsustainable entitlement trajectory and
social security and lock boxes, you know, and everything has
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never even been discussed since. Well, and we're twenty four
years down the road.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yeah, but Michael, here's what I will say. President Obama
appointed a bipartisan commission. And it wasn't just Social Security
and Medicare, but it was the overall fiscal state.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
And it was the Simpson Bulls Commission.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
So Alan Simpson, Republicans Wyoming Erskine Bulls, you know, kind
of centrist democrat from North Carolina, led the commission.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
It was very.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Substantive, very meaty, very impressive, and the people that got
before him put things together, made recommendations, made proposals. They
worked for months. I followed it closely. They came to
President Obama with a series of recommendations. Some of them
were sort of Paul Ryan like, some of them were
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pretty democrat like.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
There were small tax.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Increases on certain things, and ultimately President Obama threw it all.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Out, Yeah, because it would it would have died a.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Political own commission, his own commissions recommendations.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah, because anybody that would have dared to lead and
take those actions would have played would have paid huge
political prices, especially with the way they would have been portrayed.
All right, final question with David Bonson Bonson Financial Group.
By the way, he's got a great book called Full Time,
Full Time Book dot com if you want to buy that.
Final question is the open ended, most important question I
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could ask you? Does it really from an economic standpoint
the future of our economy? Uh, the dangerous future aspects
of our economy? Does it really matter which one of
these two win? Well? I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Upset people because look, the answers know. But the way
in which it doesn't matter changes with each candidate. In
other words, each candidate represents certain things that will be
problematic in a different way, and that net, everybody has
a right to believe who they net net think is
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less bad than the other. But to the point you're
asking me, Michael about the economy, is there a congressional
appetite for cutting spending regardless of who is the White House?
Of course not? Is there an actual leadership determination from
either of these candidates? To reform social security, medicare, to
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right size government of corpse. Not so in that shind
it doesn't make a difference. But that's different than saying
it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Matter at all.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
There's a lot of prosent cons to everything going on.
I won't get into the specifics of why I am
so personally disappointed in what we face here, but I
think you asked a very important question. Should people wake
up the day after the election, no matter who wins,
and think, oh, now the economy is going to get better? No,
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it should not be.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
David bonson Money Wiz, Market Wiz, treasured friend of the show.
Appreciate our weekly visits. Have a great weekend you too,
Thanks so much. This is your morning show with Michael
del Tumo look debates tonight, Bill. There will be expectations.
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I think, you know, if everybody looked in the mirror
and was honest with themselves. Do you really want to
see a meet the press, substantive issue oriented debate breakout?
You really want to see adults talk policy? Or do
you want a Jerry Springer show to break out? And
it will people be disappointed? Well we'll all find out tonight, Atlanta.
It's a series of firsts. Tonight's presidential debate between Biden
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and Trump will be unlike any other in history. We've
got to go back to nineteen sixty and the first
debate ever JFK and Richard Nixon. Because there won't be
a single voter in the studio, no live audience. The
candidate's mics will be muted when the opponent is speaking.
It'll be the first presidential debate. John Decker maybe can
correct mend this. I think since nineteen eighty eight that
the Commission on Presidential Debates has not sponsored because they
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couldn't come to terms with some of the rules. And
the debate is also the earliest in history. I think
we did this yesterday, but let's start here again today, John,
of all those first which do you think is the
most significant and impactful.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
It's a great question. I think that the fact that
the mic is turned off when the other candidate is
speaking is something that we haven't seen before in any
other presidential debate. You know, the fact that it's in
a television studio with no audience. We've seen that part
of the equation before, but we've never seen an instance
where an opponent's microphone is turned off when the other
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opponent is speaking. And I saw an example of how
this works yesterday on CNN. It really is effective. You
really cannot hear the other candidates speaking if they're trying
to talk and have whatever they're saying bleed into the
other candidate's microphone.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
And what's the impact of that? If you're looking for
a fistfight, that kind of keeps it from happening. That's
like a referee in a boxing MAT's constantly separating you. Yeah,
but then I think the crowd is the other one
because I think some of I think for Donald Trump,
this could be significant. You can't draw energy from that,
and that's something that you know, I think might have
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an impact.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
Well, that's right.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
You know, he does derive.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Energy when he does those campaign rallies from this crowds,
and his crowds do react to the sometimes bombastic way
that he presents his policy positions. So yeah, I mean
that is a disadvantage you could argue for Donald Trump.
But they're both are operating under the same rules. They're
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both I would imagine preparing for that, and it's easier
to prepare for, by the way, when you don't have
to worry about the external factor of an audience. You
can just prepare of what you want to say, how
you want to say it, without worrying about whether an
audience is going to react to what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
And probably what you would like the most is that
it'll force them to communicate with each other and rather
than play to the crowd, which could be good for
those of us watching at home, but it may not
give us the Jerry Springer show we're kind of wanting.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Yeah, well, you never know. We'll see what happens. We'll
see how the moderators deal with that aspect of things.
We've seen moderators like Chris Wallace, for instance, not being
well to handle that or calm things down in that
first presidential debate that happened in the last election cycle.
Clearly CNN didn't want that, and that's the reason why
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they had these rules put in place, agree to by
botholitical campaigns. In fact, the rules are such that there
won't even be other journalists in the room from other
news organizations, which is typically the case while this debate
goes on, they'll be literally watching it on you know,
television screens across the street from the CNN studios where
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this debate will take place.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
With a nice tall, frosty beer in hand. I would
presume we're visiting with John Decker, White House correspondent and attorney.
You know, for me, out of all of those, the
one that might play the biggest role that no one
is talking about. There is no coaching. There's not gonna
be what two commercial brings and no coaching in between.
So if one of these candidates is making you know,
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continually going in a wrong direction or making a big mistake,
there's no one. There's no ding ding ding, and you
come back and you can coach a little bit that
a guy gets off target, he's going to stay off target.
That may be the one that looms the greatest.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
Well, that's right. You know, if Joe Biden continually says
a phrase that I'm being honest or really folks, or
you know, one of the other items not kidding, there's
no one to say, hey, Joe, stop with the not kidding.
You know, this is that they know you're not kidding.
This is this is this is you fighting it out
for your political survival. And the same thing can be
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said for Donald Trump. No one to say, hey, mister President.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Calm down.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
He measured. I mean, they can make that motion, of course,
but you know they can't instruct the former president how
to comport himself if indeed, after thirty minutes he goes
off the rails.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
And for Donald Trump, his lead has expanded, especially in
the Swing states. There was a new poll that suggests
eighteen percent of Biden voters in swing states who voted
for him in twenty twenty don't plan to support him
in twenty twenty four. It's Joe Biden that really kind
of needs to turn things around. He's lost a lot
of black vote, youth vote, Hispanic vote. He's losing on
the two big issues, the border and the economy. I
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think the pressure is on the sitting president, not the
former president tonight. But how do you see it?
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (15:05):
I agree, you know, I think the focus really is
on the incumbent, as it always is. By the way,
people forget that. Think it back to twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
When you are the incumbent and.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
You are asking voters for another four years in office,
you have to make the case. You have to demonstrate
to those voters why you deserve another four years, and
as a result, the focus is on the incumbent. The
focus was on Donald Trump in debates one and two
in the twenty twenty election cycle, and this particular debate,
the focus is on the incumbent asking for four more years.
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Joe Biden rightly should have the focus on him if
he's asking for another four years in.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Office in the end, Is there anything Joe Biden can
do to get somebody on the right or the middle
to vote for him? Is there anything Donald Trump can
do to get the far left to vote for him?
Is there anything CNN can do that can make people
trust them and not appear to be biased. Who's got
the toughest toughest call tonight? I think it's CNN.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Actually, well, let's CNN. Obviously a lot of focus for
some will be on them and how the moderators deal
with each of these candidates, if they're fair to both,
if they're fact checking one or they fact checking the other.
But yeah, Joe Biden, if he can be sharp over
the course of the ninety minutes, he wins people over
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who are undecided, who are on the fence. We're uncertain
going into the debate, whether we're not at eighty one
years old, he can be the commander in chief for
another four years and for Donald Trump, same thing. He
can win some people who are undecided over not those
far left people that you describe, Michael, but people on
the fence saying okay. Is he more measured now than
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he was when I watched him during the course of
his time in office when it was chaotic? Is he
more measured as a president? More presidential? That I think
is what he wants to get across. Over the course
of the ninety minute long debate, White.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
House correspondent and attorney John Decker pleasure every day, have
a great day. We'll talk again tomorrow. Holpelly, Michael, I'd
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It's a car. It is transportation. You don't have to
live in it. You don't have to be luxurious in it.
I drive a sixteen year old Honda. I turn my
head to back out of parking spaces and change lines.
I use a key to start it. It runs beautifully,
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it is dependable, it's paid for.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
We were talking earlier with Aaron Reale and now's a
good time to buy a car. And I was like,
you know, some of these things that you call high
tech and stuff, I don't know that I can live
without anymore. I mean, I like that little backup camera.
I like the little blinking light when there's somebody in
the blind spot. I love the heads up display.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
My wife's truck has to have a key, and every
time I get in it, I try to push the
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this antique.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
But when we were doing the conversation, remember what Aaron said,
Oh there's people screaming at the radio right now, Well
she was one of them, taking sides with Aaron. One,
you scare me. Two. I love your voice, and I
love your attitude, and I'm very interested in you being
a co host.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Three.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
You obviously don't live in Nashville, because we do live
in our car. Actually we're in our car more than
we're in our house when you add up your drive
to work, rotting in traffic home, the amount of time
at work. But that's that debate, all right, big debate
tonight between Biden and Trump. We kind of talked that
to death. I want to do all the things that
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I find most interesting today that aren't debate related, and
the podcast will give you everything debate related. I thought
this was a huge story. A new Rasmussen Report national
telephone and online survey. It found that eighty percent of
likely US voters say Trump's choice of vice presidential running
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mate will not make a difference and whether they vote
for him or not. In fact, only thirteen percent think
Trump's VP even matters and would actually impact whether they
vote or not. Eighty to thirteen, so there has much
to do about nothing. And we talked about what what
do you do with the traditional v McCain thought he
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had a game changer with Sarah Palin because McCain just
wasn't very electric and wasn't viewed as conservative enough. So
they thought they found a a woman be a true
conservative three a very electric public speaker, and early on
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she was than some disasters on television, not being very
versed on the issues. So it backfired. But traditionally you
want somebody that a is qualified to be president. They
are heartbeat away, especially with two people over eighty two.
Maybe they can bring a key state that makes all
the difference in the electoral college puzzle and delivers the
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victory or c unites the party. Shouldn't surprise you these
numbers because Donald Trump is kind of an entity of himself. Now,
what's at stake is trump Ism and how it lives
even if he wins after four years from now. There's
no easier way to say it than the Reagan Revolution
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was far more powerful and influential and consequential than Ronald
Reagan's eight years in office. So is Donald Trump going
to pick somebody that A is of course a heartbeat
away and ready to be president. B going to keep
trump Ism alive, unite the party, or deliver a key state.
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And there's very few that even matter. This is a
top of the ticket race between Biden, if it remains
Biden and Donald Trump. Of those they would like to see,
the overwhelming winner was Ron DeSantis. And isn't that interesting
because Ron de Santis, I think is new more Uno
to be the next to keep trump Ism alive. Very
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interesting story that no one's going to be talking about. Also,
polling going into this debate, one poll clearly suggests that
eighteen percent of people that voted for Joe Biden in
the swing state that matter, that voted for Joe Biden
twenty twenty do not plan to vote for him in
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twenty twenty four. That's an erosion of your base. And
in laser thin margins like Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania, that's
your whole kit and kaboodle, whatever the expression is, I mean,
that's the race. How do you overcome that with him?
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Paul suggests that not just in swing states where it's
five to six points, but overall, Donald Trump has opened
up a lead heading into this first debate on Joe Biden.
At what point does nineteen sixty eight rear its head.
I think the DNC already gets it as of June
twenty seventh, and we'll see if the debate changes anything.
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This guy can't win. But if I'm like LBJ, he
refuses to step aside, well we're gonna run him and
lose and hopefully steal the House and Senate. Joe Biden
suddenly come to the conclusion, maybe even more so after
a bad debate performance, that it's over. Then if nineteen
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sixty eight is it's head, it's Kamala Harris, not Gavin Newsom.
But this is the drip, drip, drip of and I
think the media was first. I think the DNC and
the handlers are probably already there. But what more does
it take for Joe Biden to see on paper it's
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very difficult, if not impossible, to win. Third and final
key story this comes from Axios. There's a trusted name
of news. Sixteen Nobel Prize winning economists are jumping into
the presidential campaign with a stark warning former President Donald
Trump's plan would reignite inflation and cause lasting harm to
the global economy if he wins in November, the global
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economy or the US economy, Yeah, never mind why it mattered.
The Nobel laureates are lending their academic prestige to a
political argument that the Biden administration has been making for weeks.
Inflation would be worse under Trump. What are they not
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telling you? What are they purposely omitting from this story? Well,
the story is not even twenty four hours old on
the vine, and it's already been revealed. Ten of the
sixteen are donors to Biden. One of the economists is
married to a top Biden official and donated twenty five
(24:38):
thousand dollars to the Biden victory flood bias much and then,
of course there is the news itself, your top three
stories of my interest that aren't of the news, and
then the top five stories that are the news.
Speaker 8 (24:58):
Rock and roll Shalli will obviously no more Ordo. And
number one, far and away is the eyes in the
ears of the political world will shift to Atlanta tonight
in a CNN studio for the presidential debate, Mark Mayfield
as our Today in Politics.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
President Biden and former President Donald Trump are set to
face off on the debate stage this evening. House Speaker
Mike Johnson toroll reporters yesterday that Americans will see a
sharp contrast between the two candidates.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Everybody wants to know which Joe Biden's going to show up.
Speaker 10 (25:25):
And look, my summary is this, it doesn't matter if
he drinks a whole gallon of energy drinks, He's not
going to be able to.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Match the readiness of Donald Trump. And that's what we expect.
Speaker 9 (25:32):
The two candidates will debate tonight in Atlanta, with the
event hosted by CNN, and A new poll released on
the eve of the first presidential debate says former President
Trump has taken the lead over President Biden nationally.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
With all eyes on the first debate.
Speaker 9 (25:45):
A new Quinnipiat pole says seventy three percent of voters
will likely watch the debate, and sixteen percent say each
candidate's performance in the debate could lead them to changing
their vote. The poll also finds that Trump now leads
President Biden forty nine to forty five percent head to hand.
In a six way that includes RFK Junior. The poll
finds Trump's lead increases to six percentage points, meeting Biden
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forty three to thirty seven percent.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
That's politics. Mark Mayfield, NBC News Radio.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
And then there's a guy that's been left out, Robert F.
Kennedy Junior. He plans to respond in real time to
the Trump Biden debate on Thursday. He'll simply answer every
question asked Trump and Biden on his own online stream.
Kennedy accused Biden and Trump campaigns, along with CNN, of
colluding to keep him out of the debate. CNN says
he failed to meet the criteria to qualify for the event.
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Speaker 4 (28:33):
No word on whether or.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Not Willie will be there. AI is going to rear
it sat in the Olympics. It's going to use an
AI version of Al Michaels to provide Olympic recaps for peacocks.
Michael's approved of the plan, adding he was astonished after
hearing a sample broadcast. You know Al's still around. Why
not the real Al Michaels. He's been involved in Olympic
(28:55):
coverage since twenty ten. Now just AI version.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
I'm Daniel Colsey and Tampa and my morning show is
your Morning Show with Michael Bill.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Joram Bill writes, Decker makes a great point about shutting
off the mites. But you know who can hear it,
the other candidate. That will be interesting. Yeah, that's true.
It may not come over the air, but Donald Trump
could be rattling Joe Biden and distracting Joe Biden and
nobody knows what's causing it. That's a great point, Bill,
you are our emailer of the day. All right, Roy
(29:26):
O'Neil is joining us. I'm not going to break out
into song, although I am tempted to sing feelings all
three verses. You got the new poll that shows how
America's really feeling about this election, the debate, but beyond that,
the Supreme Court, social media, smartphones, classrooms, everything, But it's
kind of the whole. It's the gist of it all.
Speaker 11 (29:44):
Well, I think the first one that's most relevant is
that seventy three percent of those polled in this Quinnipiac
poll said they're going to tune into tonight's debate.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
So there's a lot of interest going on here.
Speaker 11 (29:54):
I think a lot of Americans just don't want the
talking heads and want to see the two guys go
toe to toe and keep the rest of the spin
room out of it. But overall, when it comes to
the election in November, in a head to head match up,
Donald Trump gets forty nine percent to Joe Biden's forty
five percent. That's a bit of flip because last month
Joe Biden had a forty eight to forty seven edge,
(30:15):
And when you mix the pot up and have a
six way race, it goes Trump forty three, Biden thirty seven.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
RFK Junior at eleven.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
You know, I looked at that entire piece of polling
and I will tell you, and I kind of juxtapositioned
it with some other things that I've been looking. There
is a lane, a lane that will widen between now
and November for RFK. I don't think RFK ends at eleven.
I think he ends closer. But you know, when you
start combining that with the eighteen percent of Biden voters
(30:47):
who voted for him in twenty twenty in swing states
now leaning towards Trump, I mean, in a it's razor's
edge in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania. That's Joe Biden losing his
young voters, black voters. That's a real problem. And if
there's any room, because when you look at all these numbers,
Rory everybody's kind of made their mind up or you
have famously said it's all baked into the cake when
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it's Biden and Trump. So if there's any leeway for
anyone to grow, it's RFK and there's a glimpse of that,
but definitely at least plays a spoiler role.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
He does certainly a disruptor in this.
Speaker 11 (31:21):
And you know, keep in mind, we were still seeing
Nicky Haley perform very well after she dropped out of
the race. Trump does seem to have this forty three
percent floor, but you know, forty three is forty three,
and that's a challenge for him.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
So the state, the state poling.
Speaker 11 (31:36):
Does look good for him, and when it comes to
those swing states, but you know, there is a floor there.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
We saw Van Jones yesterday. We've seen this from strange
places like CNN, MSNBC, Washington Post. You know, I think
the media is caught on things look bad for Joe Biden.
I think the DNC and his handlers have caught on
things look bad. Do you think it's dawn on Joe?
Just what attack up against from his approval rating to
(32:03):
people believing America is going in the right direction, to
all these polls to his base, eighteen percent who voted
for him four years ago not ready to vote for
him again in these swing states. I mean, at what point,
like LBJ, does he take a look at this and
say I can't win.
Speaker 11 (32:17):
Well, I don't think he's at that point. I mean,
what do I know from the outside here, but the
people around him. I think it's interesting that when they
were talking around some of the topics that Biden wants
to discuss, and it's going to be about abortion and democracy.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
I forgot what the other one was. But there it's
not a lot of pocketbook issues.
Speaker 11 (32:34):
You know, it's not the stuff that we're all hearing,
all this angst and how much it cost to go
to the grocery store. But you know, we are still
seeing all of these economic contradictions out there. Look, I
go to the grocery store, I WinCE when I get
to the checkout lane and say I double checked the register.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
I get that. But at the same time, record travel
numbers three million people.
Speaker 11 (32:54):
This is today, will be the busiest travel day everywhere.
Somebody's got money out there and somebody still spending it.
So there is the disconnect. Up, Oh, it's the worst
economy ever.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
See you later. I'm off to the Taylor Swift concert
in London. What which, What's going on?
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Out of all of them that I thought was the
most bizarre when it comes to those that believe the
democracy is best in the hands of Trump's even leading
on that topic. Voters in key states who will likely
decide the election trust Donald Trump to protect the democracy
(33:30):
more than Joe Biden. I mean, at some point I
would say, gee, you know, Joe's been pounding away at
Trumps the boogeyman. Democracy's at stake, abortion, abortion, abortion, and
that's what's got I'm trailing by five. He's got to
bring something fresh and new to the table or it's
going to continue in the direction it's going to continue.
Speaker 11 (33:47):
Yeah, I just don't think so. The campaign has started
for most Americans. I mean, you and I pay attention
to this every day, and we're already sick of it,
sick of it probably eighteen months ago. But I just
don't think that most Americans are really paying attention.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
I do expect a record Nielsen rating for this debate,
and that much creates a huge opportunity for CNN. Let's
see if they make the most of it. That everyone
who is watching will be paying attention to another great
day of reporting.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Roy O'Neil.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
We'll talk again tomorrow. Have a great day. Fifty eight
minutes after the hour.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
All right.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
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Hell Lord, twenty twenty four. It's Debate Day. I am
Michael del Journo, and this is your morning show. I
wonder what we'll all be talking about exactly at this
time tomorrow. Well, it all depends on what happens tonight
(00:50):
in the debate. I know a lot of people have
already made their mind up, but they still want to
watch a lot of people want to see a car wreck.
It's like watching a race and wanting to see a wreck. Well,
Joe Biden Freese, will he get too tired? Will he
be sleepy? Will Donald Trump say something outrageous, will all
happen Tonight, nine Eastern, eighth Central From this Quiet CNN studio,
(01:14):
David Bonson is joining us. He is a market money whiz.
And if the economy is in the economy and border
continue to be number one and number two issues that
are most important to those who plan to vote. If
that's the case this election cycle, what should we be
listening for in tonight's debate, David.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Well, we should be listening for this, even if it
isn't what ends up being most important to people. It
would be fascinating if these candidates would be willing to
have a debate, and if it gets into those issues, yes, immigration, yes,
the economy, but all sorts of issues. My concern would
be that it will be very little about issues. And
(01:55):
my bigger concern is that that's going to be just
fine for everyone that most people themselves.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
You you just said something really brilliant, because let's say
it is substantive. Let's say both do perform substanatively well
and they don't give you any clown show freak show.
I think the viewers will be disappointed.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Well, I think you're right. For a certain portion of
the population, and it's there. It's it's a predominant portion
that they want a food fight, they want entertainment, that
there's something performative. I think that the issue around issues
is that this election, even when people say immigration's most important,
(02:45):
or maybe people on the left say abortions most important,
then fundamentally they're not totally being honest with themselves. That
there is a sort of personal component, taking sides component
that is really embedded with about ninety percent of the
voting population. And then there are a fair amount of
(03:07):
people that are what they call so called independent moderates
sometimes they call them double haters, that they're not real
fond of buy the candidate, and then there's going to
be something that pushes those people over the edge, and
that that thing is going to be what really determines
the outcome of the election. That is my opinion, Michael.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I believe that there is some middle.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Segment of the population in about three or four states
it will determine the election. And that's why I actually
think the behavior and temperament matters, because if you're a
big issues of immigration, you already support Trump unless you're
an idiot. If he's an issue is you want the rights.
If you want the right to an abortion, then you
already support Biden unless you're an idiot. But if your
(03:51):
issue is you want to see candidates act a certain way,
then Biden's senility and health and Trump's maturity and the behavior,
those things end up mattering more side.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I often talk about the parallels to nineteen sixty eight,
right all the way to the convention being in Chicago.
But how divided America is. How you have somebody in
office it's refusing to leave at the moment and seemingly
can't win. You even have OURFK junior where OURFK once occupied.
But remember what Nixon coined, and I think it was
(04:26):
a game changer. While they were having riots in Chicago,
Nixon was talking about the silent center, and I think
the silent center is what you were just describing. And
they'll be watching. But you know, this kind is more
of the theologian you than the money with you. There
are two kinds of people, people that are emotional and
people who are intellectual and factual. If you bring up
(04:47):
an issue right away, the room's divided. If you just
played the feelings game, which some people play, you know
you can nuance and maybe win a debate and not
really impact a vote. It'll be interesting see how that
plays out. If they do bring up the economy, the
one word they both need to address and both are
(05:07):
responsible for debt, that I would think that would be
the thing you would be most interested in hearing about
that really impacts the economy.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well, I suppose that theory I would be, except for
in my case, I wouldn't believe anything either of them
said anyways, and so it wouldn't be all that interesting
to me.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
But yes, you're right, that is so s important.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Issue and it ought to be addressed, and I would
add to the debt. Another part of it that they
both they both said they're not going to address is
entitlements because at the end of the day, when we
are talking about thirty four trillion of debt, we're not
even referring to the unfunded viability going forward to Medicare
and social security commitments.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
And that we have an election in which the.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Largest fiscal issue in the country that everybody involved is
willing to ignore it and say it's off life. I
think it's both economically but also morally unforgivable.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Well, you remember that was the big argument between Gore
and Bush. Bush won by a hanging chad later determined
by courts. Then nine to eleven happened, and we have
never since come back to the unsustainable entitlement trajectory and
social security and lock boxes, you know, and everything has
(06:25):
never even been discussed since. Well, and we're twenty four
years down the road.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yeah, but Michael, here's what I will say. President Obama
appointed a bipartisan commission. And it wasn't just Social Security
and Medicare, but it was the overall fiscal state.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
And it was the Simpson Bulls Commission.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
So Alan Simpson, Republicans Wyoming Erskine Bulls, you know, kind
of centrist democrat from North Carolina, led the commission.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
It was very.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Substantive, very meaty, very impressive, and the people that got
before him put things together, made recommendations, made proposals. They
worked for months. I followed it closely. They came to
President Obama with a series of recommendations. Some of them
were sort of Paul Ryan like, some of them were
(07:12):
pretty democrat like.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
There were small tax.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Increases on certain things, and ultimately President Obama threw it all.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Out, Yeah, because it would it would have died a.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Political own commission, his own commissions recommendations.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah, because anybody that would have dared to lead and
take those actions would have played would have paid huge
political prices, especially with the way they would have been portrayed.
All right, final question with David Bonson Bonson Financial Group.
By the way, he's got a great book called Full Time,
Full Time Book dot com if you want to buy that.
Final question is the open ended, most important question I
(07:48):
could ask you? Does it really from an economic standpoint
the future of our economy? Uh, the dangerous future aspects
of our economy? Does it really matter which one of
these two win? Well? I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Upset people because look, the answers know. But the way
in which it doesn't matter changes with each candidate. In
other words, each candidate represents certain things that will be
problematic in a different way, and that net, everybody has
a right to believe who they net net think is
(08:24):
less bad than the other. But to the point you're
asking me, Michael about the economy, is there a congressional
appetite for cutting spending regardless of who is the White House?
Of course not? Is there an actual leadership determination from
either of these candidates? To reform social security, medicare, to
(08:46):
right size government of corpse. Not so in that shind
it doesn't make a difference. But that's different than saying
it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Matter at all.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
There's a lot of prosent cons to everything going on.
I won't get into the specifics of why I am
so personally disappointed in what we face here, but I
think you asked a very important question. Should people wake
up the day after the election, no matter who wins,
and think, oh, now the economy is going to get better? No,
(09:16):
it should not be.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
David bonson Money Wiz, Market Wiz, treasured friend of the show.
Appreciate our weekly visits. Have a great weekend you too,
Thanks so much. This is your morning show with Michael
del Tumo look debates tonight, Bill. There will be expectations.
(09:39):
I think, you know, if everybody looked in the mirror
and was honest with themselves. Do you really want to
see a meet the press, substantive issue oriented debate breakout?
You really want to see adults talk policy? Or do
you want a Jerry Springer show to break out? And
it will people be disappointed? Well we'll all find out tonight, Atlanta.
It's a series of firsts. Tonight's presidential debate between Biden
(10:03):
and Trump will be unlike any other in history. We've
got to go back to nineteen sixty and the first
debate ever JFK and Richard Nixon. Because there won't be
a single voter in the studio, no live audience. The
candidate's mics will be muted when the opponent is speaking.
It'll be the first presidential debate. John Decker maybe can
correct mend this. I think since nineteen eighty eight that
the Commission on Presidential Debates has not sponsored because they
(10:25):
couldn't come to terms with some of the rules. And
the debate is also the earliest in history. I think
we did this yesterday, but let's start here again today, John,
of all those first which do you think is the
most significant and impactful.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
It's a great question. I think that the fact that
the mic is turned off when the other candidate is
speaking is something that we haven't seen before in any
other presidential debate. You know, the fact that it's in
a television studio with no audience. We've seen that part
of the equation before, but we've never seen an instance
where an opponent's microphone is turned off when the other
(11:01):
opponent is speaking. And I saw an example of how
this works yesterday on CNN. It really is effective. You
really cannot hear the other candidates speaking if they're trying
to talk and have whatever they're saying bleed into the
other candidate's microphone.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
And what's the impact of that? If you're looking for
a fistfight, that kind of keeps it from happening. That's
like a referee in a boxing MAT's constantly separating you. Yeah,
but then I think the crowd is the other one
because I think some of I think for Donald Trump,
this could be significant. You can't draw energy from that,
and that's something that you know, I think might have
(11:38):
an impact.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
Well, that's right.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
You know, he does derive.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Energy when he does those campaign rallies from this crowds,
and his crowds do react to the sometimes bombastic way
that he presents his policy positions. So yeah, I mean
that is a disadvantage you could argue for Donald Trump.
But they're both are operating under the same rules. They're
(12:02):
both I would imagine preparing for that, and it's easier
to prepare for, by the way, when you don't have
to worry about the external factor of an audience. You
can just prepare of what you want to say, how
you want to say it, without worrying about whether an
audience is going to react to what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
And probably what you would like the most is that
it'll force them to communicate with each other and rather
than play to the crowd, which could be good for
those of us watching at home, but it may not
give us the Jerry Springer show we're kind of wanting.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Yeah, well, you never know. We'll see what happens. We'll
see how the moderators deal with that aspect of things.
We've seen moderators like Chris Wallace, for instance, not being
well to handle that or calm things down in that
first presidential debate that happened in the last election cycle.
Clearly CNN didn't want that, and that's the reason why
(12:55):
they had these rules put in place, agree to by
botholitical campaigns. In fact, the rules are such that there
won't even be other journalists in the room from other
news organizations, which is typically the case while this debate
goes on, they'll be literally watching it on you know,
television screens across the street from the CNN studios where
(13:18):
this debate will take place.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
With a nice tall, frosty beer in hand. I would
presume we're visiting with John Decker, White House correspondent and attorney.
You know, for me, out of all of those, the
one that might play the biggest role that no one
is talking about. There is no coaching. There's not gonna
be what two commercial brings and no coaching in between.
So if one of these candidates is making you know,
(13:40):
continually going in a wrong direction or making a big mistake,
there's no one. There's no ding ding ding, and you
come back and you can coach a little bit that
a guy gets off target, he's going to stay off target.
That may be the one that looms the greatest.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
Well, that's right. You know, if Joe Biden continually says
a phrase that I'm being honest or really folks, or
you know, one of the other items not kidding, there's
no one to say, hey, Joe, stop with the not kidding.
You know, this is that they know you're not kidding.
This is this is this is you fighting it out
for your political survival. And the same thing can be
(14:17):
said for Donald Trump. No one to say, hey, mister President.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Calm down.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
He measured. I mean, they can make that motion, of course,
but you know they can't instruct the former president how
to comport himself if indeed, after thirty minutes he goes
off the rails.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
And for Donald Trump, his lead has expanded, especially in
the Swing states. There was a new poll that suggests
eighteen percent of Biden voters in swing states who voted
for him in twenty twenty don't plan to support him
in twenty twenty four. It's Joe Biden that really kind
of needs to turn things around. He's lost a lot
of black vote, youth vote, Hispanic vote. He's losing on
the two big issues, the border and the economy. I
(14:58):
think the pressure is on the sitting president, not the
former president tonight. But how do you see it?
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (15:05):
I agree, you know, I think the focus really is
on the incumbent, as it always is. By the way,
people forget that. Think it back to twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
When you are the incumbent and.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
You are asking voters for another four years in office,
you have to make the case. You have to demonstrate
to those voters why you deserve another four years, and
as a result, the focus is on the incumbent. The
focus was on Donald Trump in debates one and two
in the twenty twenty election cycle, and this particular debate,
the focus is on the incumbent asking for four more years.
(15:36):
Joe Biden rightly should have the focus on him if
he's asking for another four years in.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Office in the end, Is there anything Joe Biden can
do to get somebody on the right or the middle
to vote for him? Is there anything Donald Trump can
do to get the far left to vote for him?
Is there anything CNN can do that can make people
trust them and not appear to be biased. Who's got
the toughest toughest call tonight? I think it's CNN.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Actually, well, let's CNN. Obviously a lot of focus for
some will be on them and how the moderators deal
with each of these candidates, if they're fair to both,
if they're fact checking one or they fact checking the other.
But yeah, Joe Biden, if he can be sharp over
the course of the ninety minutes, he wins people over
(16:19):
who are undecided, who are on the fence. We're uncertain
going into the debate, whether we're not at eighty one
years old, he can be the commander in chief for
another four years and for Donald Trump, same thing. He
can win some people who are undecided over not those
far left people that you describe, Michael, but people on
the fence saying okay. Is he more measured now than
(16:40):
he was when I watched him during the course of
his time in office when it was chaotic? Is he
more measured as a president? More presidential? That I think
is what he wants to get across. Over the course
of the ninety minute long debate, White.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
House correspondent and attorney John Decker pleasure every day, have
a great day. We'll talk again tomorrow. Holpelly, Michael, I'd
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(17:37):
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Speaker 6 (17:42):
It's a car. It is transportation. You don't have to
live in it. You don't have to be luxurious in it.
I drive a sixteen year old Honda. I turn my
head to back out of parking spaces and change lines.
I use a key to start it. It runs beautifully,
(18:03):
it is dependable, it's paid for.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
We were talking earlier with Aaron Reale and now's a
good time to buy a car. And I was like,
you know, some of these things that you call high
tech and stuff, I don't know that I can live
without anymore. I mean, I like that little backup camera.
I like the little blinking light when there's somebody in
the blind spot. I love the heads up display.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
My wife's truck has to have a key, and every
time I get in it, I try to push the
button and I'm like, why don't you get rid of
this antique.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
But when we were doing the conversation, remember what Aaron said,
Oh there's people screaming at the radio right now, Well
she was one of them, taking sides with Aaron. One,
you scare me. Two. I love your voice, and I
love your attitude, and I'm very interested in you being
a co host.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Three.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
You obviously don't live in Nashville, because we do live
in our car. Actually we're in our car more than
we're in our house when you add up your drive
to work, rotting in traffic home, the amount of time
at work. But that's that debate, all right, big debate
tonight between Biden and Trump. We kind of talked that
to death. I want to do all the things that
(19:06):
I find most interesting today that aren't debate related, and
the podcast will give you everything debate related. I thought
this was a huge story. A new Rasmussen Report national
telephone and online survey. It found that eighty percent of
likely US voters say Trump's choice of vice presidential running
(19:29):
mate will not make a difference and whether they vote
for him or not. In fact, only thirteen percent think
Trump's VP even matters and would actually impact whether they
vote or not. Eighty to thirteen, so there has much
to do about nothing. And we talked about what what
do you do with the traditional v McCain thought he
(19:52):
had a game changer with Sarah Palin because McCain just
wasn't very electric and wasn't viewed as conservative enough. So
they thought they found a a woman be a true
conservative three a very electric public speaker, and early on
(20:12):
she was than some disasters on television, not being very
versed on the issues. So it backfired. But traditionally you
want somebody that a is qualified to be president. They
are heartbeat away, especially with two people over eighty two.
Maybe they can bring a key state that makes all
the difference in the electoral college puzzle and delivers the
(20:35):
victory or c unites the party. Shouldn't surprise you these
numbers because Donald Trump is kind of an entity of himself. Now,
what's at stake is trump Ism and how it lives
even if he wins after four years from now. There's
no easier way to say it than the Reagan Revolution
(20:58):
was far more powerful and influential and consequential than Ronald
Reagan's eight years in office. So is Donald Trump going
to pick somebody that A is of course a heartbeat
away and ready to be president. B going to keep
trump Ism alive, unite the party, or deliver a key state.
(21:21):
And there's very few that even matter. This is a
top of the ticket race between Biden, if it remains
Biden and Donald Trump. Of those they would like to see,
the overwhelming winner was Ron DeSantis. And isn't that interesting
because Ron de Santis, I think is new more Uno
to be the next to keep trump Ism alive. Very
(21:44):
interesting story that no one's going to be talking about. Also,
polling going into this debate, one poll clearly suggests that
eighteen percent of people that voted for Joe Biden in
the swing state that matter, that voted for Joe Biden
twenty twenty do not plan to vote for him in
(22:05):
twenty twenty four. That's an erosion of your base. And
in laser thin margins like Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania, that's
your whole kit and kaboodle, whatever the expression is, I mean,
that's the race. How do you overcome that with him?
(22:26):
Paul suggests that not just in swing states where it's
five to six points, but overall, Donald Trump has opened
up a lead heading into this first debate on Joe Biden.
At what point does nineteen sixty eight rear its head.
I think the DNC already gets it as of June
twenty seventh, and we'll see if the debate changes anything.
(22:47):
This guy can't win. But if I'm like LBJ, he
refuses to step aside, well we're gonna run him and
lose and hopefully steal the House and Senate. Joe Biden
suddenly come to the conclusion, maybe even more so after
a bad debate performance, that it's over. Then if nineteen
(23:09):
sixty eight is it's head, it's Kamala Harris, not Gavin Newsom.
But this is the drip, drip, drip of and I
think the media was first. I think the DNC and
the handlers are probably already there. But what more does
it take for Joe Biden to see on paper it's
(23:30):
very difficult, if not impossible, to win. Third and final
key story this comes from Axios. There's a trusted name
of news. Sixteen Nobel Prize winning economists are jumping into
the presidential campaign with a stark warning former President Donald
Trump's plan would reignite inflation and cause lasting harm to
the global economy if he wins in November, the global
(23:55):
economy or the US economy, Yeah, never mind why it mattered.
The Nobel laureates are lending their academic prestige to a
political argument that the Biden administration has been making for weeks.
Inflation would be worse under Trump. What are they not
(24:17):
telling you? What are they purposely omitting from this story? Well,
the story is not even twenty four hours old on
the vine, and it's already been revealed. Ten of the
sixteen are donors to Biden. One of the economists is
married to a top Biden official and donated twenty five
(24:38):
thousand dollars to the Biden victory flood bias much and then,
of course there is the news itself, your top three
stories of my interest that aren't of the news, and
then the top five stories that are the news.
Speaker 8 (24:58):
Rock and roll Shalli will obviously no more Ordo. And
number one, far and away is the eyes in the
ears of the political world will shift to Atlanta tonight
in a CNN studio for the presidential debate, Mark Mayfield
as our Today in Politics.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
President Biden and former President Donald Trump are set to
face off on the debate stage this evening. House Speaker
Mike Johnson toroll reporters yesterday that Americans will see a
sharp contrast between the two candidates.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Everybody wants to know which Joe Biden's going to show up.
Speaker 10 (25:25):
And look, my summary is this, it doesn't matter if
he drinks a whole gallon of energy drinks, He's not
going to be able to.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Match the readiness of Donald Trump. And that's what we expect.
Speaker 9 (25:32):
The two candidates will debate tonight in Atlanta, with the
event hosted by CNN, and A new poll released on
the eve of the first presidential debate says former President
Trump has taken the lead over President Biden nationally.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
With all eyes on the first debate.
Speaker 9 (25:45):
A new Quinnipiat pole says seventy three percent of voters
will likely watch the debate, and sixteen percent say each
candidate's performance in the debate could lead them to changing
their vote. The poll also finds that Trump now leads
President Biden forty nine to forty five percent head to hand.
In a six way that includes RFK Junior. The poll
finds Trump's lead increases to six percentage points, meeting Biden
(26:05):
forty three to thirty seven percent.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
That's politics. Mark Mayfield, NBC News Radio.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
And then there's a guy that's been left out, Robert F.
Kennedy Junior. He plans to respond in real time to
the Trump Biden debate on Thursday. He'll simply answer every
question asked Trump and Biden on his own online stream.
Kennedy accused Biden and Trump campaigns, along with CNN, of
colluding to keep him out of the debate. CNN says
he failed to meet the criteria to qualify for the event.
(26:32):
Cancer centers are reporting drug shortages. Tammy Trihila has that story.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Among twenty eight centers across the US, eighty nine percent
reported that at least one drug used treat cancer, its symptoms,
or treatment side effects was in short supply. That's according
to a survey by the National Comprehensive Cancer Network. The
problem is reportedly fueled by a combination of supply chain
issues and oversees companies cutting back on unprofitable drug manufacturing.
(26:57):
I'm Tammy TRIHEO.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
We all know the substance that took the l life
of Matthew Perry, but who all is involved in getting
him that substance? Well, the investigation into his death is
nearing its end, Michael Cassner reports.
Speaker 7 (27:07):
Sets According to ABC News, citing sources within the Los
Angeles Police Department and US Attorney's Office, investigators are working
to determine who supplied the ketamine that led to the
fifty four year old Perry's death at his home in
Pacific Palisades last October. The DEA and US Postal Service
are also involved in the investigation. I'm Michael Casson federal authorities.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
They are now handling the investigation into an attempted fraudulent
foreclosure of Graceland. Lisa Taylor has more.
Speaker 10 (27:36):
The Tennessee Attorney General's office said the investigation is best
suited for federal law enforcement, adding they have faith in
our federal partners and know they will handle this appropriately.
An identity thief from Nigeria may be behind the attempt
to auction off Elvis Presley's famed estate. Graceland is the
second most visited home in the United States, with only
the White House receiving more visitors on a yearly basis.
(27:58):
I'mly s Taylor.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Not exactly well. He Nelson is going to miss another
date of his Outlaw Music Festival tour. The ninety one
year old country music legend, will not perform at the
tours stop in Virginia Beach tonight. It was announced last
week that Nelson had been ordered by doctors to rest
wasn't feeling well. That forced him to miss the first
three dates of the tour. Touring with Bob Dylan, Robert
Plant and Alison Krause. That's quite a that's quite a
(28:25):
great show. I'd like to see those and all the
different fans of them mingling together. Next stop on the
tour is Friday night in Syracuse, New York.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
No word on whether or.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Not Willie will be there. AI is going to rear
it sat in the Olympics. It's going to use an
AI version of Al Michaels to provide Olympic recaps for peacocks.
Michael's approved of the plan, adding he was astonished after
hearing a sample broadcast. You know Al's still around. Why
not the real Al Michaels. He's been involved in Olympic
(28:55):
coverage since twenty ten. Now just AI version.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
I'm Daniel Colsey and Tampa and my morning show is
your Morning Show with Michael Bill.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Joram Bill writes, Decker makes a great point about shutting
off the mites. But you know who can hear it,
the other candidate. That will be interesting. Yeah, that's true.
It may not come over the air, but Donald Trump
could be rattling Joe Biden and distracting Joe Biden and
nobody knows what's causing it. That's a great point, Bill,
you are our emailer of the day. All right, Roy
(29:26):
O'Neil is joining us. I'm not going to break out
into song, although I am tempted to sing feelings all
three verses. You got the new poll that shows how
America's really feeling about this election, the debate, but beyond that,
the Supreme Court, social media, smartphones, classrooms, everything, But it's
kind of the whole. It's the gist of it all.
Speaker 11 (29:44):
Well, I think the first one that's most relevant is
that seventy three percent of those polled in this Quinnipiac
poll said they're going to tune into tonight's debate.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
So there's a lot of interest going on here.
Speaker 11 (29:54):
I think a lot of Americans just don't want the
talking heads and want to see the two guys go
toe to toe and keep the rest of the spin
room out of it. But overall, when it comes to
the election in November, in a head to head match up,
Donald Trump gets forty nine percent to Joe Biden's forty
five percent. That's a bit of flip because last month
Joe Biden had a forty eight to forty seven edge,
(30:15):
And when you mix the pot up and have a
six way race, it goes Trump forty three, Biden thirty seven.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
RFK Junior at eleven.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
You know, I looked at that entire piece of polling
and I will tell you, and I kind of juxtapositioned
it with some other things that I've been looking. There
is a lane, a lane that will widen between now
and November for RFK. I don't think RFK ends at eleven.
I think he ends closer. But you know, when you
start combining that with the eighteen percent of Biden voters
(30:47):
who voted for him in twenty twenty in swing states
now leaning towards Trump, I mean, in a it's razor's
edge in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania. That's Joe Biden losing his
young voters, black voters. That's a real problem. And if
there's any room, because when you look at all these numbers,
Rory everybody's kind of made their mind up or you
have famously said it's all baked into the cake when
(31:10):
it's Biden and Trump. So if there's any leeway for
anyone to grow, it's RFK and there's a glimpse of that,
but definitely at least plays a spoiler role.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
He does certainly a disruptor in this.
Speaker 11 (31:21):
And you know, keep in mind, we were still seeing
Nicky Haley perform very well after she dropped out of
the race. Trump does seem to have this forty three
percent floor, but you know, forty three is forty three,
and that's a challenge for him.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
So the state, the state poling.
Speaker 11 (31:36):
Does look good for him, and when it comes to
those swing states, but you know, there is a floor there.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
We saw Van Jones yesterday. We've seen this from strange
places like CNN, MSNBC, Washington Post. You know, I think
the media is caught on things look bad for Joe Biden.
I think the DNC and his handlers have caught on
things look bad. Do you think it's dawn on Joe?
Just what attack up against from his approval rating to
(32:03):
people believing America is going in the right direction, to
all these polls to his base, eighteen percent who voted
for him four years ago not ready to vote for
him again in these swing states. I mean, at what point,
like LBJ, does he take a look at this and
say I can't win.
Speaker 11 (32:17):
Well, I don't think he's at that point. I mean,
what do I know from the outside here, but the
people around him. I think it's interesting that when they
were talking around some of the topics that Biden wants
to discuss, and it's going to be about abortion and democracy.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
I forgot what the other one was. But there it's
not a lot of pocketbook issues.
Speaker 11 (32:34):
You know, it's not the stuff that we're all hearing,
all this angst and how much it cost to go
to the grocery store. But you know, we are still
seeing all of these economic contradictions out there. Look, I
go to the grocery store, I WinCE when I get
to the checkout lane and say I double checked the register.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
I get that. But at the same time, record travel
numbers three million people.
Speaker 11 (32:54):
This is today, will be the busiest travel day everywhere.
Somebody's got money out there and somebody still spending it.
So there is the disconnect. Up, Oh, it's the worst
economy ever.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
See you later. I'm off to the Taylor Swift concert
in London. What which, What's going on?
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Out of all of them that I thought was the
most bizarre when it comes to those that believe the
democracy is best in the hands of Trump's even leading
on that topic. Voters in key states who will likely
decide the election trust Donald Trump to protect the democracy
(33:30):
more than Joe Biden. I mean, at some point I
would say, gee, you know, Joe's been pounding away at
Trumps the boogeyman. Democracy's at stake, abortion, abortion, abortion, and
that's what's got I'm trailing by five. He's got to
bring something fresh and new to the table or it's
going to continue in the direction it's going to continue.
Speaker 11 (33:47):
Yeah, I just don't think so. The campaign has started
for most Americans. I mean, you and I pay attention
to this every day, and we're already sick of it,
sick of it probably eighteen months ago. But I just
don't think that most Americans are really paying attention.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
I do expect a record Nielsen rating for this debate,
and that much creates a huge opportunity for CNN. Let's
see if they make the most of it. That everyone
who is watching will be paying attention to another great
day of reporting.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Roy O'Neil.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
We'll talk again tomorrow. Have a great day. Fifty eight
minutes after the hour.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
All right.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
I don't know where time goes, it flies, but if
you missed a little, you missed a lot. We're all
amiss together. This is your morning show with Michaeldenhild shown up.
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