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waking up, Welcome to Tuesday, July, the second year of
our Lord, twenty twenty four. And you know it's interesting
I plan to discuss do we really understand and therefore
authentically celebrate Independence Day or is it just another Fourth

(01:06):
of July three or four day weekend? And then I'm
looking down at the latest Gallup poll, which by the way,
trends for the last fifteen years almost mirrored now. The
difference is prior to nine to eleven, the center and
the left was fifty five percent very proud, the right

(01:30):
was eighty eight to ninety percent very proud. Today it
just they go up and down together. Today, sixty seven
percent of Republicans are extremely or very proud, only forty
one percent of Democrats. Partisan politics impacting our view of

(01:51):
independence and liberty. And if you go back to the
heightened point, it was about ninety three percent very or
extremely proud if you were a Republican and seventy percent
if you were a Democrat. But that was after nine
to eleven. It takes something like nine to eleven to
unite us. That's what patriotism looks like in the divided

(02:15):
States of America, in the matrix death of journalism and
polarized partisan political America. What a shame. Lucky for you,
we have Stephen Bouchie filling in for Lieutenant Colonel James
Carafinal today. Booch, it's been too long, so good to
hear your voice.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Gosh's good to be back on the show. Thank you
for having me.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
It's a really important question to all of my your
morning show listeners. Are you going to celebrate Independence Day
or the fourth of July a date on a calendar.

Speaker 5 (02:49):
Oh, I believe I celebrate Independence Day.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
That's sort of.

Speaker 5 (02:55):
I spent my entire adult life being ready to give
my life to defend that independence.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
So I think I have the right attitude.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
You know, a lot of our founding fathers felt like,
give me liberty or give me death. As the famous
quote goes, what have we lost in terms of appreciation
for independence, liberty and this great experiment we call a republic.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
Well, I think for a lot of folks, just you
get used to all the freedoms we have, the opportunities
we have in America.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
It's not a perfect place.

Speaker 5 (03:27):
It's filled with human beings, and human beings kind of
screw things up every time they get involved in it.
But you know, for the most part, it's a heck
of a lot better than every other country I've been in,
and I've probably been.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
In more countries than most people listening.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
But you take things for granted, you believe it's always
going to be there. You don't recognize the truth that
you've got to work to keep what we have. And
by work, it's not just go out and do physical labor.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
It's thinking.

Speaker 5 (04:01):
It's it's being able to have a conversation with people
with whom you disagree, and even if when you're you
walk away still disagreeing, it doesn't mean you've got to
hate the person. But that requires two folks with that
same mindset.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
And when you don't think like that, you end up.

Speaker 5 (04:21):
You know, you have Michelle Obama saying, well, I've never
been proud of America.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (04:27):
You were in the White House at the time you
said that. That's a pretty big deal. I think we
made a big step forward with that. So you're now
saying there's nothing to be proud of here, there's nothing
worth celebrating here.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
I'm sorry. That's a that's a really bizarre attitude, and
it's a dangerous narrative.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
It's a dangerous narrative. You know, I think I never
ran track. A it wasn't that fast, and B. I
always went from football season to basketball season straight to
the baseball field when others went to track. But I've
I watched a few relays and it doesn't matter how
good the first leg is you've got to hand that
paton off to the next and then the next, and
then the next, and any one of those four legs

(05:10):
can ruin the race for everyone. Every generation is past
the baton to honor the generation before and to ensure
a better tomorrow for the future generations. This is a
generation that markedly feels differently about the country. And it's fine,
it's founding. I think we got to look at education
and in doctrination over decades. I think we got to

(05:30):
look at a biased media. We got to look at
a biased Hollywood. All of these things have conditioned the
mind to think America is flawed, always has been, always
will be. No wonder the numbers look the way they do,
and one side's buying it and the other isn't.

Speaker 5 (05:49):
Yeah, it's kind of an amazing thing. And you realize
that some of those influences are not even Americans, you know,
they're they're people who grew up in other countries, grew
up in other cultures and perspectives, and they come here
and they they enjoy the benefits of living here, they

(06:11):
enjoy the freedoms that are available, but then they for
some reason, just feel compelled to tear things down.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
You know, I'm thinking of.

Speaker 5 (06:20):
The George Soros's the world, who you know, are really
just bent on destroying the Western culture that they have
grown fat on and it's an amazing phenomenon, but it's
there and other people who you know, they screen bloody murder.

(06:43):
You know, you think of Britney Grinder, who are Grinder
who before she went and got arrested in Russia, you know,
didn't think very much of America.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Well now because America took the time in the for
to get her out of the Russian prison for by
the way, actually breaking their rules.

Speaker 5 (07:06):
You know, it wasn't a setup like it's been journalists
and other people.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
She changed her tune a little bit. I don't know
if it's changed it completely, but you know, I don't
think she wants to live in Russia. So people just
that their expectations are unrealistic. Their expectations are not by
to history.

Speaker 5 (07:30):
And their knowledge of history, frankly, is really poor, and
that's what they're saying. They're basing these opinions on. But
if you ask them about the facts of our.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
History, they really don't know it.

Speaker 5 (07:44):
They know some slogans, they've heard some rants while in
high school or university, and that's.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
What they're basing it on.

Speaker 5 (07:54):
They've never done the research, they've never really done the
intellectual lifting to frankly.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Be able to hold those opinions.

Speaker 5 (08:04):
But that doesn't stop them from doing it, because you
know what, they're in America. They could think and say
whatever they want. But is that really what they should
be doing, or should they do the work and come
to their own conclusions based on real facts. I'm leaning
towards the latter myself.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Military foreign policy expert Stephen Buchi from the Heritage Foundation,
one of the largest think tanks in the world. You
can read their great work at Heritage dot org joining us.
We're kind of pondering the question in general, do we
plan to celebrate Independence Day or is it just the
fourth of July? And what independence and liberty means today
versus the past. I know you specialize the military and

(08:43):
foreign policy, and I can think of some pretty great
threats from Iran to terrorism, to Russia to China to
North Korea. But I still think what our founding fathers
sensed all along is true. Our greatest enemy is within
How big of a is this that we're talking about.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
Well, it's you know, there are some people within our
country who are actually actively seeking to destroy what you
and I recognize as as the foundations of the American
culture of the American nation. But there's a lot of
other people and probably the more dangerous threat because we

(09:25):
have law enforcement, intelligence and military to go after the
people who are actively trying to to hurt us.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
But it's the people who.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Are are apathetic.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
They're they're just giving up. They don't care.

Speaker 5 (09:46):
You know, they sit there with their beer in their
hand on the fourth of July say yeah, this country
really sucks. The whole time, they're they're making a stake.
You know, they're sitting on a beach somewhere. It's a
terrible place. Is we need to change this, And it's like, dude,
you look like you're enjoying the situation here.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
That to me, that apathy.

Speaker 5 (10:08):
And that ignorance, not that they're intellectually you know, broken,
They just don't have the facts and they never bother
to get them.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
That's the real danger to me. Yeah, ignorant.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
By the way, ignorancy, ignorant has been given a bad word.
Ignorant doesn't mean stupid, just means you're ignoring something while
focusing on something else. I think of all the young
liberal women on campuses that are supporting tolerance in Islam,
and they have no idea if if Islam had its way,

(10:41):
it is a form of government, it is a system
of life, one that doesn't recognize them as a whole person.
They don't have rights to vote, they don't have rights
to dress any way they want. They don't have freedom
of speech, freedom of religion, or freedom to ignore religion.
I guess they just don't take an honest look at
how it could be, let alone, how good it is,
and it gets out of whack. Bottom line is, you know,

(11:07):
if we focus on narratives rather than history and truth
and liberty and freedom, you're going to get an ignorant view.
And that's kind of what we're living in right now,
this notion that we need a republican or we're going
to lose a republic, a democrat, or we're going to
lose democracy or an independent because everything's going to What

(11:29):
America needs more than ever is America and a return
to its intent and founding and its principles rather than
our fights. Do you have any hope that we'll get there?
I'm seeing some glimpses of it. I see a biased
media and a death of journalism that's been exposed and
is no longer influential. I don't know that I see
anything changing as far as education versus indoctrination and common

(11:52):
education or higher education, I can tell you since COVID
Hollywood's not very relevant, nor are its stars and those
that want to get too politically involved. But what glimmers
of hoped do you see? Is there a chance to
avoid this depth from within?

Speaker 1 (12:05):
I think there is.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
I have worked with lots of young people in the military,
in the business world.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
In the think tank community that that I'm a part
of now, and I have to tell you, while there
are a lot of.

Speaker 5 (12:21):
Young people who are saying and doing things that just
sort of baffle me. You know, the ones that chant,
you know, from the river to the sea, but they
can't tell you which.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
River or which sea, uh, you know, stuff like that.
There's a lot of them. They might even be the majority.
I hope not. But I've seen enough of the good ones, ones.

Speaker 6 (12:43):
With the right you know, ethos, the right work, ethic,
the right you know, use of their intellect, that I
think there's.

Speaker 5 (12:53):
A remnant there, enough of a remnant that.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
I don't think America is going to disappear yet.

Speaker 5 (13:00):
I mean, we could screw it up some more our
generation before we actually hand them that baton you were
referring to earlier, and perhaps it would be too late,
but I am still optimistic.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
This is a very resilient country. I think.

Speaker 5 (13:15):
You know, when my dad's generation, the World War two generation,
looked at the Baby Boomers and went, boy, what a
bunch of knuckleheads.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
I can't believe that. Boy, what are we gonna do?

Speaker 5 (13:26):
But they saw enough of the other kind of no
people to think, Okay, there's some that have this and
I think will be okay. So I think that's probably
happened every generation. And I hope I'm not just being Pollyanna,
and I hope that I'm right in that estimate.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
But we'll see.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Well, human nature is human nature. It took a lot
to create the founding generation. I don't have to tell
you it was the generation of the depression that created
the greatest generation that liberated the world during World War Two.
We don't do very well in times of prosperity. It
creates soft generations, ignorant generations. We saw nine to eleven

(14:08):
kind of reawaken people to American not Republican versus democrat,
us versus them, but just us. We're all in this together.
It's sad that it takes tragedy and great attacks to
unite our country. Let's hope it doesn't take that. And
for everybody listening, we're hoping you celebrate Independence Day. It's worthy.
Liberty is worthy and freedom is worthy, and it wasn't

(14:30):
free of your celebration and Steven, I appreciate your insights
as we head into the fourth of July. Great to
talk to you, old friend. Have a great weekend you
as well.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
Have a great one and have a blessed Independence Day
you too.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Happy Independence Day. Stephen Bouchie from the Heritage Foundation. You
can read his work and others great work at Heritage
dot org. This is your morning show with Michael Deltona.
If you're just waking up, well, we've kind of unpacked
a lot of things. A Supreme Court ruling which was
kind of constitutionally common sense protecting presidential immunity, not a

(15:08):
blank check for immunity on individual acts, but for presidential acts.
That is the constitutional story. Then there's the political reaction story,
which is the fantasy, the narrative and the political weapon
of the left has been diffused. So once again narrative

(15:30):
dies cause of death law and reality. So a big
headline today is law air from the left to try
to remove Donald Trump rather than defeat him in an
election has failed again and we want more specifically into that.
What we see as a media that's one of the
big legs of the stool. Media controls the narrative. That's

(15:50):
how they control narrative in election cycles to steer election
outcomes than any opposing views are all blocked by social
media that they also control through technocracy, and then we
weaponize something to harvest ballots in swing swing states. Well,
looks like the media, and we did a long look
at the Washington Post, Axios and others. We saw it

(16:13):
was CNM the night of the debate. They've lost the media.
The media is no longer on the Biden team, so
they can't create in twenty to twenty four what they
created in twenty twenty without the media controlling the narrative
for them. And in the Axios story, you get to
see two Biden's one they've been hiding and one you
finally saw an election night, and the media has now
turned their.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Back on him.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Now the party itself is standing behind him, his family
standing behind him. Will donors, will polls, Time, will tell Hi,
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(16:52):
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It's Milton Burrel.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
It's Murle?

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Why is it a Burrel? Whatever his name is. Hurricane
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I think they're worried more about more than just debt
and a number of US military bases in Europe on
heightened alert over possible terror attacks. Thanks for waking up
with your morning show. All right, so Erin's here. One

(17:26):
of the things we consistently see is people are willing
to have experiences more so than objects, and when it
comes to experiences. Travels very expensive, which means we're headed
more in debt. Is that a good thing? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (17:40):
This is an interesting one short answer. Debt never a
great thing, never makes you feel great. But life is
not all about the grind, so you want to get
out there and travel. But thirty six percent of Americans
say that they're willing to take on debt in order
to do it this summer. This is according to Bank Rate.
Of those summer travelers, twenty six percent are using a
credit card. And this is brutal, Michael is because credit

(18:02):
cards are charging about twenty percent interest at the moment.
So this is the type of debt that experts say
really lingers.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
It causes serious.

Speaker 7 (18:10):
Pain for the long term, and we tend to use
money while on vacation like monopoly money.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
I myself included.

Speaker 7 (18:18):
You're just like, it's fine, Well.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
You do spend completely different, don't you completely different?

Speaker 7 (18:23):
And then there's always the vacation justification and the debt
accumulation for that justification. So like millennials and Gen z ers,
they are the ones that are most likely to plan
to go into debt to vacation, but they're also the
most likely to have kids.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
Right now.

Speaker 7 (18:38):
And often the justification there is like, I'm creating this
seminal childhood memory. We've got to do it. And that's
and I get it, And that's you're trying to be
a good parent. You're not doing this selfishly. When you're young,
you're like, Yolo, let's let's go spend the money, do
the thing. And when you're a boomer, a lot of
them are like, time's a ticken, let's let's make it happen.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
And I get it. I guess one of these are bad.
I guess one way to have handled it was okay, kids,
here's the these are tough times. People's income isn't keeping
up with inflation. All right, we got a choice to make.
Do we want to make a memory as a family
and go on a vacation, or do we want to
have a Christmas tree with a bunch of presents under it?
That would be one way to handle it. Another way
to handle it might be Okay, the hotel is on

(19:19):
the credit card, the flights are on the credit card,
But we got an envelope with travelers checks or does
anybody even use travelers checks anymore? Or cash to limit?
You know, it's like there's the reason why you go
to a casino and nobody's throwing cash on the table
because you're playing differently with a chip, and we do
differently with credit cards. And at the end of the day,
we don't view credit cards as a problem until they're

(19:40):
maxed out. But then all your credit cards minimum payments,
which are getting you nowhere in them everywhere, is taking
up a good sizeable portion of your take home pay.
That's when, like government, it's a problem at home. So ah, yeah,
it's a tough one.

Speaker 7 (19:55):
It's a really tough one. And how do you justify,
you know, what's worth it or not. I loved your
story about your Christmas when things were lean, I think,
and I also like the idea of like, okay, maybe
no big presence under the tree, and maybe no presence
at all, but we're all going to go do this
thing together, Like I don't. I will never be the
one to say travel is bad. It's life enriching, it's

(20:15):
like soul enriching. It's all great, but it is expensive.
And you know, there are ways experts say to plan
ahead and you can affordification. Like let's say you get
an airbnb cooking at that Airbnb as opposed to eating out.
You're gonna save hundreds and hundreds of dollars depending on
how big your family is.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
There's a good first step.

Speaker 7 (20:34):
So it's like it's little things you don't necessarily and
it doesn't necessarily ruin the vacation. Now, for some people,
cooking is a burden. So that's not the one you're
going to do. Maybe it's the transportation you change. Maybe
it's where you like, there's everyone's different. So looking at
your budget, sticking to it, and then kind of just
planning ahead so you're not like, oh, we're all starving.
I guess we're eating out.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
That helps.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yeah, we failed miserably, so I'll just confess that right
now up front. But like you know, we thought we
were being sensible. We went to Sandusky, Ohio. Now Cedar
Point is it is the Rolls Royce, especially if you
love roller coasters. It's the Rolls Royce of amusement parks.
So we love to go to the mountains. They have
a billboards here that say the mountains are calling. That's
all I need. I want to go to the Smokies

(21:15):
because Dollywood is is great. Well this is and Dollywood
is a great place to go. Don't get me wrong.
They got great roller coasters, but nothing like Cedar Point.
So then it becomes, oh, do we stay at the
Breakers right on the water that is kind of right
connected to the park, or could we stay somewhere more
affordable off park and you know, just drive there in park. Well,
next thing, you know, you compromise. You want to be
at the Breakers, you want the water view, you want

(21:36):
to be on the water, you want to be near
the park. Well, we want to have park tickets or
do you want.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
To have a fan?

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Next thing, I want to even a fast pass, and
then an express fast pass. And now you don't wait
in any lines. And next thing you know, you're eating dinners,
you're eating lunches, you're you know, and then you know
you don't just stop and fill up the gas tank.
Everybody runs in and gets food and you know, back
into the car. So even sometimes when you think you're
making compromises, you tend to overspend. And that's even in
San Dusky, Ohio. Are there any great bargains out there?

(22:01):
We talked about Europe as it's a good time to
travel Europe. If you wanted to travel to Europe, remember
memories or memories. They don't have to be universal at
a high end hotel to have a memory.

Speaker 7 (22:12):
Oh no, not at all. Like some of the best
memories are, you know, sitting in a public park. And
whether that public park be in the mountains or the
beach or a lake, it doesn't it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
There are many Wait, I don't want to interrupt, but I'm
trying to think. No, I have no public park memories.
Oh really, well, Central.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Park, I guess yeah.

Speaker 7 (22:29):
I'm like being in New Yorker, I have spent a
tremendous amount of time in public parks, and they're like,
our country has beautiful public parks, whether it's Central Park
or you know, they're and by public parks, I mean campgrounds.
Like we do a pretty good job there for the
most part.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah, you know what we don't do anymore. That was cheaper.
But when I was growing up, we went to Disneyland, once,
went to a Dude ranch, once we went to Wisconsin Dell's,
once went to Sheboygan a lot, had braughts, fished and
hung out on the beach. But what we used to
do a lot when we were kids that we don't

(23:06):
do anymore is go visit other relatives or friends and
cities we used to live in. Nobody does that anymore
and makes real memories. That's kind of been lost.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
It's so true.

Speaker 7 (23:16):
I actually so I had, you know, I had cousins
in New Hampshire that we would go visit every summer,
and I have the happiest memories as a little girl
being in New Hampshire, which, by the way, no one's like,
let's go to New Hampshire.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
This part.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
I've always wanted to go to New Hampshire. It strikes me,
is it it'd beautiful?

Speaker 7 (23:33):
It is, and it's a lovely New England, but like
it's kind of like not, you know, it's Florida. It
is not in the sense that where people generally want
to go. I loved it, and it's exactly to your point.
I loved it because my big cousins were there and
I thought they were so cool, and and we would
go in the woods and we'd go in the pool,
and I just have like the happiest memories. So your
your point is absolutely correct that visiting family.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
But no, what's interesting.

Speaker 7 (23:56):
Family is shrinking.

Speaker 4 (23:57):
My kids only have two cousins.

Speaker 7 (23:59):
And I had eight, and I don't necessarily have a
big family. It's just more people are having less children,
thus making less cousins around to go visit or aunts
or uncles.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Throwing a couple of fights and estrangements and they have
even Yep, it's all over the bottom line is we'd
like to solve things here at your morning show. So Aaron,
get the guest room ready, all of your morning show
audience and Dell journers are on their way. We've decided
to visit relatives in Connecticut. You yay, come to do
no talking? Yeah, wait to see you Ellen. All right,

(24:32):
Eric Greg reporting today. We'll talk again tomorrow one more
time before the fourth of July holiday. If you're just
you two, all right, if you're just waking up sixteen
minutes to be to work on time, and these are
your top five stories of the day. And I gotta
go quick because roy O'Neil's gonna have more on our
top story, which is there's only one way to stop
them now in a free, fair election, what the heck
is wrong with that?

Speaker 8 (24:52):
America Fed must decide they want to entrust the president
once again, the presidency to Donald Trump now knowing he'll
leave more emboldened to do whatever he sees whenever he
wants to do it.

Speaker 9 (25:06):
Former President Trump's partial victory in the Supreme Court over
the question of immunity has big political implications. Trump advisor
Elena hamas as the ruling means Trump's election interference case
has hit a roadblock.

Speaker 8 (25:17):
I don't see how this case could go forward before
the election.

Speaker 9 (25:21):
Ham appraise the Supreme Court's decision.

Speaker 10 (25:23):
I've argued on immunity for President Trump, and I think
they did get right that they recognize absolute immunity exists.

Speaker 9 (25:29):
A further delay in the case will mean Trump will
be free to campaign and not behold up in a courtroom. However,
the ruling does not impact Trump's upcoming sentencing in his
New York hush money case on July eleventh. The judge
in that case could sentence Trump to prison or home confinement.
The Justice has ruled six to three on Monday, handsome
immunity from prosecution.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
I'm Mark Mayfield.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Bottom line lawfair failed again. Bottom line a fantasy, a narrative,
a political weapon has been diffused and died once again
because of death, the law and reality. Speaking of reality,
a number of US military bases in Europe are on
heightened alert over a possible terror attack.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Michael Kasner reports the bases include US European Command in Germany.
It's not clear what exactly caused the alert to be
raised to the second highest level. That European authorities have
been tightening security ahead of the Paris Olympics and the
ongoing European Football Championships. I'm Michael Casner. The cost of
celebrating freedom is anything but free. In fact, that's gone

(26:30):
up again this year. More from USDA economist Megan Sweitzer.

Speaker 11 (26:34):
All in total, the price of our our burger rose
by four cents, two dollars and twenty two cents per burger.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
So what's it going to cost us this sport of
July versus last year?

Speaker 11 (26:45):
Prices for our four ounces of ground beef rose by
five cents, prices for our two ounce slice of tomato
rose by one cent, and then our one ounce of
cheddar cheese declined by two cents, and prices of bread
and lettuce stayed largely the same.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
So what's summer? What's the fourth of July? What's vacations?
Without a dip in the water? Pre Tennis is busting
some of the pool myths.

Speaker 10 (27:09):
If you were blonde and go in the pool. The
chlorine will turn your hair green. That's true, but it's
not from the chlorine, it's from the copper in the water.
Or you have to wait thirty minutes after eating before swimming.
That's also been proven false by Olympic swimmers. And there's
a special dye you can add to the water that
will turn a color if someone urinates. Ultra modern pool
supply says no such chemical exists. They say, as long

(27:32):
as the pool is properly maintained, you're free to jump in.

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I'm pre tennis, and then there's treading water, which I
can't do in sports. The Nats lost yesterday nine to
seven to the Mets. Bad news for our freedom. One
oh four point seven listeners in Washington, DC. As for
the rest of your morning show, cities, all were off. Cardinals, Rangers, Dbacks, raised, Guardians,
and Mariners all in action.

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Today.

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Birthdays Richard Petty, it's goodies for his birthday. He's eighty
seven years old today, Curb your enthusiasm. Larry David is
seventy seven years old. Today. Barbie actress Margot Robbie is
thirty four and whole number thirteen My favorite US women's
soccer star Alex Morgan is thirty five. If it's your birthday,
Happy birthday. We're so glad you were born. And thanks

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for waking up with your morning show.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Hi.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
I'm Dennis people of Mississippi, and my morning show is
your morning show, Michael till Jorn if you're just waking
up this from the home Awfish and my wife Andrea.
It's Beryl like Meryl Streep, not Burrell like Milton Burrell
spelled differently. Well, don't I feel stupid. You got all

(28:43):
the bees to pick from. Just name it Hurricane Bob.
All right, So it's not Burrell, it's Beryl, but it
is still Rory. Rory O'Neil, your morning show correspondent here
with reaction on the Supreme Court's decision yesterday, which turns
out to be not so much a legal political discussion
as a political reaction. Your take and what happened yesterday?

Speaker 12 (29:05):
Yeah, by the way, the UN has a weather panel
that comes up with the name, so those by the way.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Bob Dyl something I could pronounce would have been a
better Yeah, Bob's in the mix they had I think
they were retired about but anyway, Yeah, So I don't know.

Speaker 12 (29:19):
It's like watching tennis the left, the right, the left,
the right, the left, the right, as you try to
get all the understandings as to what this ruling from
the Supreme Court means yesterday.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
I think it leaves a lot of uncharted territory.

Speaker 12 (29:31):
Even Justice Sammy Komy Barrett had some issues with this
idea that you can't even bring into evidence some of
the protected actions of a president. She was concerned about
bribery cases in particular. But yeah, it's a lot of
uncharted territory now that gets shifted down to the lower
courts for them to decide.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Which the Trump law team wasted no time in looking
into having a New York kush money case thrown out
now because after all, some of the things and the
evidence that was introduced is now protected. So and the
letter also asked for the July eleventh sentencing to be delayed.
But let's talk about it from a legal standpoint. Was

(30:12):
this a victory for Donald Trump? Well, I think that's
political in and of itself. It's a victory for what
has always been and for presidents past, president and future
and everything else just becomes narrative. Like the Washington Post
telling you now presidents can have other opponents killed. I mean,
that's just taking everything to the wildest extreme. I mean,
what did the ruling actually mean legally?

Speaker 4 (30:34):
That also?

Speaker 12 (30:34):
I mean that argument about having your opponents killed, that
did come up in the oral arguments back in April
in the court. So it's not like it's been made
up of whole cloth out of the past twenty four hours.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
That was specifically talked about in the court.

Speaker 12 (30:47):
But yeah, you know, I think that there are some
troubling signs here when you give this presumptive immunity to
a president and how you define what is an official
act versus what is a personal one?

Speaker 4 (31:00):
That gets very hazy.

Speaker 12 (31:02):
This January sixth speech on the ellipse was that personal
presidential political Where does that fall?

Speaker 4 (31:08):
And things like that are going to be difficult to parse.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
But everybody seems to want to view it as to
how it pertains to Donald Trump. What about how it
pertains to Bill Clinton, how it pertains to Richard Nixon,
how it pertains to Joe Biden or Barack Obama. I
mean that's where the narrative kind of it's like the
tennis match you're describing left right left right left. Right.

Speaker 12 (31:29):
Well, you had Dean, the former Nixon attorney, saying that
now that that ruling that you know Nixon wouldn't have
been charged.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
With anything or convicted of anything that would have been protected.

Speaker 12 (31:39):
You know, I don't like this whole idea where a
president's communication with the Justice Department is completely protected. Then
you know, then Joe Biden gets to say turn off
the Hunter investigation right now, banks don So you know,
there are other ways that this pendulum can swing and
or you know, what kind of confirmation or conversation could

(32:00):
a president have with the Justice Department ordering the FBI
to conduct some kind of surveillance on people.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
And then there is just facing the political weaponry straight
on and and that would be well, here's another attempt
at with the right is calling lawfare that has failed.
And so there's no question this delays things. Donald Trump,
they can't stop them. Now they're gonna have to beat
him in November, right, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
But the court left so much up to the lower courts.

Speaker 12 (32:29):
Now, you know, even the issue now see the documents
case out of mar A Lago. So he was president
when he sent the documents to mar A Lago. Taking
the documents would have been protected, but he didn't return
them when.

Speaker 4 (32:42):
The Archives asked.

Speaker 12 (32:43):
So is that protected initially and then not now because
he refused to return them.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Yeah, it's but nobody's chopping at the bits with that
clarification to go to court, that's.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
Well, I mean, but that's what's going to have to happen.
And then it goes to Judge Cannon in that.

Speaker 12 (32:57):
Case, you know, And we've already heard from Justice Thomas
or already sort of stepping out of bounds a bit
to talk about how she should rule in this.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
So it's it's been interesting signaling from the court as well.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
I think here's my final thing, and then I want
to get your impression. I think this is certainly a
law fair failure in terms of stopping him from being
in the election, but it doesn't mean it's going to
stop them from harassing him once he's elected. This this is
setting the tone for how they're going to go after
him all while he's president again. I mean, we can

(33:32):
expect that. Other words, if you want relief from all
of this nonsense, don't look for it anytime soon.

Speaker 4 (33:38):
Well, who's going to go after him?

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Well, that would just be the narrative of the left
to just attack him all throughout. He's going to be
just as they're you know, presenting him in throughout the campaign.
He's a dictator, he's a devil, he breaks the law,
he's a convicted felon. And then they're going to just
use all of these extraneous cases to keep going after
him while he's in office as a way of distract department.

Speaker 12 (34:01):
Obviously, you know it'll be, but it'll be toothless, like
AOC saying she's going to impeach the Supreme Court. You're like, okay,
have a seat, nice lady.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Roy O'Neil, great reporting as always. We'll talk again tomorrow
one last time before the rest of us enjoyed the
fourth of July and you get into full fill in modes. O'Neil,
are your morning show national correspondent. We're all in this together.
This is your morning show with Michaeldenhild showing no
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