July 3, 2024 • 33 mins
Where are we, what’s next, what’s the left’s next move? Do they even know???
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, two three, starting your morning off right, a new
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
This is your Morning Show with Michael O'Dell Trump.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
On the air and streaming live on your iHeart app.
Good morning, it's seven minutes after the hour. I am
Michael del Jordan. If you're just waking up. Barack Obama
privately shared his concerns about President Biden's debate, told allies,
Biden's already on a tough path, and it just got
a whole lot tougher. Meanwhile, just let the headlines tell
(00:36):
you the story. Remember Nancy Pelosi on Sunday, just a
bad debate has nothing to do with a great presidency.
Now suddenly a shift. Well, it's a legitimate question whether
or not it was a bad debate as a condition,
or was it just an episode. Exasperated Ragent Cage and
(01:01):
James Carville demanding Democrats nominate someone other than Joe Biden.
Remember twenty four hours ago when they told you everything
was fine, we did internal polling. Well the polling leaked
and it's not fine. And solid blue states are now
swing states. Swing states are now solid for Donald Trump.
They got big problems. A CNN poll shows most voters
(01:26):
I think the Democrats have a better chance of keeping
the White House if Biden isn't the nominee. But Rasmussen
shows you that Kamala Harris doesn't offer much better. And
the big solution Joe Biden to meet with governors today
and then sit down with George Stepanopholis. That'll make it better.
(01:51):
And I guarantee it'll be done between ten am and
four pm, the only time he's ever really operational.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Question of the day. Has Joe Biden finally reached the
sixth sense stage? I see dead people and they're everywhere
and they don't know they're dead. Is Joe Biden politically dead?
And he's the only one that doesn't know it? Where
are we? Where is this crazy political year headed? What's next?
(02:24):
What is the next play for the left? And do
they even know? Chris Walker is an analyst and a
consultant with the GOP and he joins us every Wednesday. Chris,
where are we? Where are we headed? And what is
the Left's next play? And do they know?
Speaker 4 (02:41):
They don't know?
Speaker 5 (02:42):
I mean with the an any headline on a headline.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Over the last week has been panic in the Democrat Party,
and we see why.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Ironically, this isn't We talked about this a little bit
on Friday. This isn't a surprise to those of us
who have been paying attention. I mean, they tried to
line out everyone and tell us that, you know, the
videos that we saw that we've seen Biden over the
last three years, we're all chute bakes and other types
of things in the media. My favorite is the New
York Times saying, you know, one video from two weeks
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ago was a cheap bake, and now it's used as
an example of Joe Biden's dementia in the story yesterday.
So you know, again, it's just the amount of falsehoods
from the media is something to behold. But your point
on on the swing.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
States is really important.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
When New Mexico, Virgila, New Hampshire, Colorado are all in
potential play.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
In this election.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
Now this is a This becomes mandate territory for Trump
if it continues, and the Democrats can't let that continue.
And you know, just as much as Biden would agreed
to the debate because he was losing and people were
seeing it that Biden, that debate solidified in everyone's mind
that he can't win and can't.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
You know, be a nomination.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Now the question is for the like, how do you
keep this from becoming the actual wave that didn't manifest
in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
So they're trying to figure out whether to punt or
go for it on fourth and thirty seven. Probably the
lowest the lowest moment would be representative Jared Golden. By
the way, Maine is in play, Nebraska's in play, Minnesota
is in play, Michigan, Wisconsin's in play.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I don't think we can say.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Virginia, Pennsylvania, Nevada, and Arizona in play because there's solid
Trump now. But this may just kind of summarize everything.
Here's Jared Golden and an op ed piece a Democrat
from Maine saying, you know what, Biden's gonna lose. Trump's
gonna win and I'm okay with that.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
That's a whole new level. Not only is he gonna
lose and we're okay with that? Go figure. I mean,
these are these are tough times. But you know, I
think one thing that's obvious is, you know they needed
the media to control narratives. They did it in twenty
twenty it worked.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
They needed technocracy to block any opposition opinion. They needed
COVID to be weaponized to change election laws for harvesting
and mail in votes.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
They don't have any of that, nor can they hide
them in a basement. And the media has clearly turned
against them.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
And X now owned by the Elon Musk half of
the ability, and we saw that with a Elon Musk holding.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Kamala Harris accountable for lies. You know, you can't get
away with this stuff anymore. It's a new battleground. This
is going to be I don't know how they can
pull this off. They got a punt, but I don't know.
I don't know how to make a long interview out
of the obvious.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
Well, I mean, you know, a lot of the chattering
class has been talking about how Biden has to agree
to step.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Down to do it.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
I mean, you know what I don't like about what
some of our side is saying is, you know, it
upsets the democratic process that they replaced Biden.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Well, that's just not true.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
I mean, ultimately, a political party is sole purpose is
to put forth to Canada that can win an election.
The Democrats are in a position now where the person
out of their primary is incapable of winning the election.
You know, Gretchen Whitner said Michigan is unwinnable. From if
he can't win Michigan, he's certainly not going to win Virginia,
you know, just like there's so many dominoes that fall
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from that statement alone.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
So, I mean, he clearly will not win in November.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
So the party has to decide who they're going to
put up that has a fighting chance. And there's nothing
undemocratic about that from a standpoint of a political process.
Undemocratic would be a November election situation. But the primary
process is its whole purpose is to put forth to
Canada that can win. So it is not democratic in
the sense of the people voting. The people voting don't
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care about partisan politics, and frankly shouldn't. They should have
the best candidates for the jobs to help govern the
country or the state or the locality. So in a way,
the partisan process of it is somewhat of a sideshow whatever.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
They decide to do. You know, the Republicans clearly.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Want to run against Biden, so they have to say
what they want to say. But if there's a little
bit of honesty there, you know. Let's let's let's just
be clear of the.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Well wait a minute, wait a minute. Now, you opened
up a fascinating can of Williams Chris Walker joining us
GOP analyst and consult. All right, so let's take your
first statement. It's not true that Joe Biden would need
to step aside. That's the quickest way. He owns the delegates.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Only he can decide, like LBJ in sixty eight, not
to run and turn his delegates over. There is another path,
and the other path is the twenty fifth Amendment, and
the Democrats turn on him, or at least threatened that
they'll turn on him and impose that maybe force the
cognitive test and other things in that process. But you
just open up another can of worms. And the Republicans
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who would want to beat Joe Biden, well, then you
would oppose that twenty fifth Amendment to keep him on
the ticket. I'll do you want even better, which is legally,
even if you do replace him now in three very
key swing states, the laws of Ohio, Pennsylvania, and some
other places Georgia won't allow you to take them off
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other than death. So you may not be able to
even be on every ballot. If you make the switch
now you've let so much time pass.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
What a mess, total mess.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
It could couldn't happen to better people.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I mean to the circus music.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Well, let's just go back to twenty twenty and Biden
limiting his choices to a woman of color being his
his VP nominee. Not merit, not quality, not electability, just
two innocuous definitions that really mean nothing about quality. And
we've seen Kamala Harris be almost unpopular vice president's history.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
So not only are.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
They in the process of trying to figure out Biden's
cognitive problems, they don't have a vice president that they
trust even to be remot good in the job that
they have or when November as well. So all this
talk of Newsom or whittmore other people are, you know,
ignoring the blatant fact that the most important decision that
Joe Biden made in his political career was a terrible one.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
And you know they're still running from that.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
I've run a political campaign, not for myself, for someone else.
You've run political campaigns. At this point, I think this
is me. I think their only move is to stick
with Joe and loose and try to play upon the
American people's obsession with the presidency and get a low
turnout and steal the House and Senate. That's your only play.
(09:39):
And quite frankly, who cares who the next president is.
It's only a one term presidency and you got your bench.
And I don't think it's Gavin Newsom. I think it's
a governor in Maryland that you plan for four years
from now.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Anyway, that's right. I think you're right on that.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
The question is though the national Your point about the
f on the presidency's important, and I think it's something
to remind.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
You know, North Carolina is a place. You know, Trump's
a plus.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
Eleven now and there's a serious governor's race in North
Carolina where a lot of people think the Republican wouldn't
win under normal circumstances. But Trump out of plus eleven
Mark Robinson will win that race in North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Government not so fast, you know, because now you're ignoring
Trump is In other words, there are people passionate and
they will show up to vote for Donald Trump because
they this whole notion that well, maybe they'll get lax
and not show up because the poll show they're gonna
win easy, and they'll be as dumb as Hillary was
and be lazy and not show up. No, a Trump
voter will show up. They want a landslide.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
They want to mandate victory over Republicans as much as Democrats.
It doesn't mean necessarily they're ten point passionate uh in
a governor's race or a Senate race or a House race,
but close.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I get your point.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
I wouldn't say that's a ten point win for Robinson,
but it could be an extra three and not could
push them over the line. It could put David McCormick
in a position to win a Senate seat in Pennsylvania.
They probably wouldn't win an under un normal circumstances. The
reason why the Democrat Party is freaking out isn't because
of Joe Biden, per se.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
For themselves.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
You know, the House seats that we've talked about several
times that are in play, the Senate seats that are
in play. Like again, from a standpoint of a Democrat,
if Trump is the biggest existential threat that they have,
how about Trump with you know, a thirty seat majority
in the House and a seven seat majority in the
Senate with a mandate to undo so much. I mean,
we saw Chevron last week, but like, imagine what he
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can do if he's really curious about eliminad the income
tax or at all kind of changing the administrative state
in Rollerdwood Will ways, that's that's the bigger thing for
them that they have to fight against.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
And this could be very good for our republic, and
that I you know, I've always felt like if if
we want to see the biggest change in our country,
you want to see the Democrat Party returned to center
or right center. That will make the biggest back on America.
They've gone so far left and taken America to the
left with it that you know, even a very conservative
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Donald Trump presidency doesn't pull us back to the right.
But if they come out of this having lost the
presidency to Trump again, losing the Senate and losing big
control in the House and it's no longer close, they're
going to be looking at reinventing themselves. And then the
argument's going to be do we go to the center
or do we go further to the left. And now
they're in the heart of their own civil war with
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the Squad and other elements within their party. They would
face irrelevancy with that kind of a landslide. So that's
probably something they're kicking around the conference room table as well.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Of course, I mean they have to you know, well
my sense is it would bear leftward because just the
loudest voice tends to you know, kind of win in
those circumstances.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
But we'll see. But you know this this.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Is you mentioned Elon and Twitter, and I don't want
to overstate one social media platform, you know, influence. But
look at what's happening in France. You know La Penn
La Penn's party had one seat in the legislature or
you know, in the France's parliament, uh, you know, twenty
years ago.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Now they have a majority.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
You know, look what's happening in Argentina and across the
across the globe that you know, the stuff that Tucker's
been doing in Australia, like there was a huge kind
of wave of anti you know, globalist mentality that's happening
right now. And part of that is of social media,
but part of because all of these failures have been
accumulative and we're seeing that manifested someone like Joe Biden,
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who's been you know, a partisan liberals whole life and
people are seeing this for what it is. It's alive,
and so I think it's stuff.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
It's gonna be huge.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
It's death by reality and consequence, all right. So their
worldviews and policies have failed. That's a problem.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I also think there's a death of wokeness going on.
And I don't know what the final straw was. Men
competing with women.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
I don't know, but it's all gotten a little too crazy,
and that's having an influence as well, I believe. Is
there any way you can hold for the break and
just do one more segment?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Or do you need to go?
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:31):
We're having a conversation with Chris Walker, a GOP analyst
and consultant. The question for most of America is did
Joe Biden have a bad night? Or is it good night?
He's cognitively impaired, he see now. Uh, well, it's one
of the quickest deaths in narrative history. Yesterday they were
telling you the polls, We did some internal polling.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Everything looked fine, and we suspect the polling will continue
to look fine.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Well, then that poll leaked and in it is a disaster.
So now what do they do in what's next. How
much of this Chris, and we only have two minutes
unless we want to hold off to the next segment.
But how much of this is our primary process is failing?
And how much of this is the two party system
is failing? And how much of this is power that
doesn't care about any of these candidates or the people
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but maintaining deep state control.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
Well, I mean, the primary process is certainly failing, and
in both parties. Let's let's be franked, you know, not
in the sense of, you know, we obviously like where
some of this is going as a win, but you know,
on the whole, when the state is basically funding you know,
political processes for political parties to you know, to kind
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of pick their nominee as kind of a broken process.
State parties have you know, kind of discounted rates for
direct mail and other things, while outside groups do not.
I mean, you know, let's be talking about you know, McCain,
Feineld and other things. I mean, there's just a lot
of things that have happened of the last twenty thirty
years that benefit you know, consultants and you know, the
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partisanship of politics rather than kind of good governance, and
you know, the like better results. So you know, it's
something I've been kind of thinking about for a while
and seeing this kind of happen in real time, where
the Democrats have kind of rigged their primary process to
favor their incumbent, you know, and they're they're stuck with
this now and they're trying to figure out what to do.
It's a big part of the problem.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Yeah, and because of this historic nightmare, maybe they will
historically solve this.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
But what I'm hearing you say is.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Free and fair elections, well not so much with primaries.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
They're very tipped towards incumbents.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Good morning, thirty six minutes after the hour on this Wednesday,
July the third, you have our load twenty twenty four
the proverbial twenty four minutes to be to work on time. Warning,
we're visiting with the Chris Walker. You know, Chris, I
did something I guess because of the subconsciously because of
the news, because of the chaos. I think what finally
sent me over the edge was the new Gallup poll numbers.
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America has never been less proud to be an American
than right now. And it's very partisan, so Republicans are
far more proud to be Americans far more patriotic, and
the center and left far less, but all are actually down.
I thought, you know, I'm going to do some research.
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I want to find something new to focus on so
that I have an Independence Day and not a fourth
of July, if you're following me.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
And believe it or not. In all of my rabbit hole,
I found about five or six things I didn't know, Like,
did you know the Liberty bell rings thirteen times every
fourth of July for the thirteen original colonies. I did
not know that.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
The one that's in the museum or a different bell.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I assumed the one that's still operational.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Yeah, that's interesting. I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I mean, I don't think they can ring the one
in the museum, can they?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
I don't think so either.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
I mean I wouldn't have seen it, So, I mean,
that's that's fascinating.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
All right, I can tell you. But trust me, they
get better, all right.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Even though we celebrate Independence Day on the fourth of
July now most call it fourth of July. The declaration
itself has dated the fourth of July, but it was
actually voted on July second.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
We could be doing second of July.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
In fact, all didn't sign it until August second, we
could be celebrating the second of August instead of the
fourth of July.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
To July season.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I'm a Yankee noodle Danny born on the second of All.
I guess it wouldn't have had the same ring to it.
This one I found fascinating. Did you know that three
signers of the Declaration of Independence died on the fourth
of July? And two of them died Jefferson.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
I don't know the other two, well.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Only one, James Monroe. I did not know that.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
John Adams and Thomas Jefferson, two of my top five
presidents ever, both died on the fourth of July.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I didn't know that. And James Monroe died.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
On the same day. It wasn't even the fourth of July.
They died on the same fourth of July.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Wait, it gets even better.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Fifty years after the signing of the Declaration, Oh man.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
You're doing good.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
On the fiftieth anniversary of the fourth of July. Thomas Jefferson,
who is credited with writing the Declaration of Independence, and
John Adams are second president. Both died in the fiftieth
anniversary on the fourth of July. In eighteen twenty six.
Five years later, in eighteen thirty one, James Monroe also
a signer of the Declaration of Independence. I think everybody
knows John Hancock is so big because he was the first,
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and I don't think.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
He had an idea of how many names had to
fit on it. You ever have people like in the
office they passed around a birthday card, And if you're first,
you know you're real huge and you didn't leave room
for everybody else.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Did you know who the youngest? I mean, I'm ready
to make a quiz out of it. You're so good.
Do you know who the youngest signer was?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Barlett? No? No, no, no, no, no no sorry, South Carolina Rutledge.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yes, you're impressive. Wow.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
I did not I would have not been able to
know that. Edward Rutledge, twenty six years old, the youngest
to sign the Declaration of Independence South Carolina. The first
ever Fourth of July celebration at the White House was
eighteen oh one with Thomas Jefferson. Do you know what
the population was in seventeen seventy six, roughly the size.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Of Nashville un now fifty thousand.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
No, it's two point five million. That did strike me high.
In the country, Yeah, in the country, it was.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Two point five million, and now it's three hundred and
fifty million. I'm trying to think we import a loan
six hundred million dollars worth of fireworks, which kind of
brings up John Adams had written a letter to his
wife on the occasion of the Declaration of Independent He said,
this is a big deal. They're going to celebrate this
for many, many centuries to come, and they'll celebrate with parades,
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bonfires and fireworks. Boy was he right about parades and fireworks.
Do you know the oldest Fourth of July parade? If
you know this, I'm going to fall over.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
The oldest Fourth of July parade, I would have to
say it would be in Massachusetts. I'm gonna go with Concord, Massachusetts.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Probably wrong, but that's what i'm gonna go with.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Yeah, Massas would have been a good That would have
been a good guest. Maybe Philadelphia, where it was signed,
would be No, it was Bristol, Rhode Island, seventeen eighty five.
And the longest Fourth of July parade is Alameda, California,
three point three miles. Anyway, just some things I did,
you know, interesting thing, but I did not believe it
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or not. I didn't know that John Adams and Thomas
Jefferson died in the same day, let alone on the
fourth of July, let alone on the fiftieth anniversary of
the signing.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
All right, I want to know what Adams? Do you
know what?
Speaker 5 (22:11):
Adam's last words were, independence for all and Jefferson survives.
Is what he said is last words something up to
that effect. I may be butchering a little bit, but
independence for all and Jefferson survived.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Wow, all right, if you're just waking up one of
the quickest narrative depths in political history. So remember, right
after the debate, it was, oh, that was a bad
performance by Joe Biden, but it's Donald Trump that you
step down. He's a serial liar. Then by Sunday it
was Okay, that's a bad performance, but a bad performance
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doesn't erase a great presidency.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Then the narrative shifted to, oh, he had a cold.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Then it was he had a cold, but then Biden says,
it's because I did so much world traveling and I
was sleepy. Then the White House and the administration says
we did some internal polling. There is no negative polls
since the debate, and we suspect that that's how all
the polls will look. The biggest problem is that internal
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memo of polling leaked and in it there's some disastrous results.
Forty percent of those who supported Joe Biden in twenty
twenty do not plan to support him this time around.
He's lost forty percent of his base. That's a crisis.
Then the next big thing takeaway is swing states all
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lost irreparably, but now you've got a lot of solid
blue states that are now up for grabs. I mean
not just swing states. They are coin tosses. Colorado. Prior
to the debate, Biden led by three point seven percent.
That's down to one point nine percent. And that's as
good as it gets Colorado. Minnesota, which I said was
in play and I expect RFK to have a very
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significant influence here. Two point four percent was the lead
for Biden in Minnesota prior to the debate. Now it's
down to zero point four percent. It's a toss up.
Main Biden was leading by two point two percent. Now
he leads by just zero point two percent. It's a
coin toss. New Mexico. He was leading by two percentage points.
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Now he's trailing by a half a percentage point. Virginia.
By the way, this may be their pre debate poll,
but we've seen other polling that had the president former
president Donald Trump up in Virginia by a point. Theirs
had Biden leading by a point and a half. Now
he's trailing by point six. Maybe it just caught up
New Hampshire.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Well, yeah, you can chime out on any of these.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
What if he picks Youngkin as his VP nominee. They
we think about what that does for Virginia and frankly Maryland.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
I mean, but yes, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Here's New Hampshire where the president, former president Donald Trump
was up by half a point, Now he's up by three.
Wisconsin he was trailing by two prior to the debate.
Now he's trailing by four point two percent, beyond the
margin of air. Nebraska, he was trailing by two and
a half points. Now he's trailing almost double by four
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point three percent. Now it gets really ugly. Michigan, where
he was trailing by five percent. The governor came out
and said, we can't win Michigan anymore. He now trails
by seven. Pennsylvania, considered a swing state, not so much anymore.
Trump was leading by five point one percent. Now he
leads by seven point three percent. This is the White
House's own polling. Nevada, Arizona, the two West Coast swing states,
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Trump was leading by six point nine percent and seven
point six percent, respectively. Now he leads by eight point
eight and nearly double digits nine point seven percent. Georgia,
North Carolina double digit leads for Trump ten point one
percent in Georgia, ten point six percent in North Carolina.
Number One, they lied and their life is exposed. Within
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twenty four hours we did pauling doesn't show any losses
after the debate shows massive loss is a massive problem.
So number one, they lied. What else are they lying about?
Maybe it's cognitive ability?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (26:13):
And then secondly, how do you win with a map
that looks like this? Swing states are all dominated by
Trump and now solid blue states or swing states.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
That's a problem.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
They can't, you know, they absolutely can't. And let's you know,
unpackaging that a little bit. Let's I mean Nebraska.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
You mentioned Nebraska, that's actually the blue congressional district, So
I mean that's the Omaha area, and they're down there,
which is you know, kind of blue city, think about
like a like the cities, and you know, you and
I live in Tennessee. Like that's like the city of
Nashville going Republican and you know that's that's the only
blue part of the state. So that's an interesting piece
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of it as well.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Yeah, and that's one that will be split on the
electoral cultually.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
So you know what I find is fascinating about this Again,
I think there's a couple of points that I'd like
to make. Just one that's a flashpoll immediately after the debate, right, so, yes,
it leaked, And I think that's a very interesting point
in its own right that you know, people on the
campaign or having to like like send stuff or reports
to raise the flag of concern. But I don't think
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we've even seen the full impact of the debate outcome yet,
because we've had a full almost a week now of
Biden's incognitive decline.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Biden is incapable of doing the job people like.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
Openly and brazenly talking brazenly just like seriously having to
say the words of like twenty fifth Amendment. So like
an internal poll that was conducted on the friday after
the debate, is not taking into account how many people
are continuing to jump. That seventy three percent number of
Democrats that want to see someone else win isn't even.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Included in some of these numbers yet.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
So I think we're at the beginning of what we're
going to see as a pretty negative moment for Biden.
I think those numbers are only going to get worse.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
The CNN poll that you're referencing is registered voters, by
the way, twenty five percent to seventy five percent say
someone else, an alternate presidential candidate, would do better than
Joe Biden. So there's a loss of trust and belief,
and it seems insurmountable.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
By the way, if they.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Turn to Kamala Harris, the rest muse some pole suggests
it won't go much better. Forty one percent of likely
US voters have a favorable impression of Kamala Harris, including
twenty percent very favorable.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
She doesn't pull much better than Donald Trump does.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
So, you know, we celebrate Independence Day, we come back
from the holiday. I suspect the Democrats don't know what
to do. Let's see if they have a plan. We
get back from the holiday and visit next week because
right now I don't think they know what to do.
One thing's for sure, the media is turned against it.
These leaks are a good sign of that. The polling
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number suggests he can't win. I think they're looking at
whether or not to punt or go for it. On
fourth and thirty seven, bad night or good night to
Joe Biden. I think the people are saying good night,
and the administration still trying to and Democrats are desperately
still trying to point to bad night, but nobody's buying
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it yet.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
Well, and again, I just I would reiterate how much
this impact Senate races. I mean, every one of those
swing states Michigan, Nevada, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin all have Senate
races this year. And you know, Debbie Sabine is not
running for election in Michigan, that's an open seat. You
know McCormick, and Pennsylvania has deep pockets. You know Eric
(29:41):
Hovedy and Wisconsin has deep pockets. Carrie Lake can be competitive.
I mean, if Trump is winning by nine in Arizona,
that brings carry Lake potentially across the finish line in Arizona.
So you know what we were talking about a month ago,
which is just two or three Senate seats potentially picking
up are now becoming six or seven, which is a
complete disaster for the Democrats. So they have to they
(30:03):
have to say, as you say, good night, because and
I suspect too much for them, And.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
I suspect that's what the governors may say to him today. Uh.
And then of course a lot will be hinged on
his his interview with George Stephanopolis, which is supposed to
fix all this, or maybe ABC and going to turn
on them too, and think about this.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
Jamie Prisker was going to zoom in He's coming to DC.
Gavin Newsom is coming to DC for this meeting to
this afternoon. It's not a zoom call. These people are
coming straight to his face and they're going to say,
is this is becoming untenable?
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Yeah? Because a very interesting position.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Because and I'll just and I will give you the
closing remark, but I would say, if the strategy is
we go with Biden and lose, who cares it's a
one term presidency.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
We're going to focus.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Well, now you got to get all your money that
would have gone to Biden to go to these other
candidates to try to lose the presidency but secure the
Senate and House seats. That's a rough patch. I still
think that even points so there's got to be people
sitting around the conference room table saying, we got to
make a switch. If nothing else, even if we make
a switch and lose, make enough of a switch to
create some momentum to protect these Senate House seats.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
That's where I think you're right on the money.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
I think, you know, be prepared to hear a lot
of you know, our good friend Jim Carafano and heritage,
they're going to be They're just gonna be. He'll need
our support as much as ever because you're gonna hear
Project twenty twenty five and the boogeyman of all of
the bad things that Republicans and Conservatives want to do
they've been talking about for four years but actually have
the potential to do now if all of this continues
(31:33):
to hold, you know, they're going to try to make
every single effort to improve the lives of people with
you know, less government in their lives will be.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Looked as boogeymen.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
So, you know, even if all this campaign stuffesn't matter,
they're going to have to figure out some way to
do it. I would imagine that Project twenty twenty five
and other things like that are going to be even
more at a high pitch volume of saying the sky's
falling when it won't.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
So there's gonna be a lot of vigilance on our
end that we need to do.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
And remember too, Erica's proclivity to want checks and balances.
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express concern. We have governors coming to express concern. Everybody's
trying to position this is a bad night but the
polls suggest, and a lot of Democrats suggest it's goodbye.
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Not a bad night, it's goodbye for Joe Biden. We'll
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Well, two three, starting your morning off right, a new
way of talk, a new way of understanding, because we're
in this to give it.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
This is your Morning Show with Michael O'Dell Trump.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
On the air and streaming live on your iHeart app.
Good morning, it's seven minutes after the hour. I am
Michael del Jordan. If you're just waking up. Barack Obama
privately shared his concerns about President Biden's debate, told allies,
Biden's already on a tough path, and it just got
a whole lot tougher. Meanwhile, just let the headlines tell
(00:36):
you the story. Remember Nancy Pelosi on Sunday, just a
bad debate has nothing to do with a great presidency.
Now suddenly a shift. Well, it's a legitimate question whether
or not it was a bad debate as a condition,
or was it just an episode. Exasperated Ragent Cage and
(01:01):
James Carville demanding Democrats nominate someone other than Joe Biden.
Remember twenty four hours ago when they told you everything
was fine, we did internal polling. Well the polling leaked
and it's not fine. And solid blue states are now
swing states. Swing states are now solid for Donald Trump.
They got big problems. A CNN poll shows most voters
(01:26):
I think the Democrats have a better chance of keeping
the White House if Biden isn't the nominee. But Rasmussen
shows you that Kamala Harris doesn't offer much better. And
the big solution Joe Biden to meet with governors today
and then sit down with George Stepanopholis. That'll make it better.
(01:51):
And I guarantee it'll be done between ten am and
four pm, the only time he's ever really operational.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Question of the day. Has Joe Biden finally reached the
sixth sense stage? I see dead people and they're everywhere
and they don't know they're dead. Is Joe Biden politically dead?
And he's the only one that doesn't know it? Where
are we? Where is this crazy political year headed? What's next?
(02:24):
What is the next play for the left? And do
they even know? Chris Walker is an analyst and a
consultant with the GOP and he joins us every Wednesday. Chris,
where are we? Where are we headed? And what is
the Left's next play? And do they know?
Speaker 4 (02:41):
They don't know?
Speaker 5 (02:42):
I mean with the an any headline on a headline.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Over the last week has been panic in the Democrat Party,
and we see why.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Ironically, this isn't We talked about this a little bit
on Friday. This isn't a surprise to those of us
who have been paying attention. I mean, they tried to
line out everyone and tell us that, you know, the
videos that we saw that we've seen Biden over the
last three years, we're all chute bakes and other types
of things in the media. My favorite is the New
York Times saying, you know, one video from two weeks
(03:12):
ago was a cheap bake, and now it's used as
an example of Joe Biden's dementia in the story yesterday.
So you know, again, it's just the amount of falsehoods
from the media is something to behold. But your point
on on the swing.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
States is really important.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
When New Mexico, Virgila, New Hampshire, Colorado are all in
potential play.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
In this election.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
Now this is a This becomes mandate territory for Trump
if it continues, and the Democrats can't let that continue.
And you know, just as much as Biden would agreed
to the debate because he was losing and people were
seeing it that Biden, that debate solidified in everyone's mind
that he can't win and can't.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
You know, be a nomination.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Now the question is for the like, how do you
keep this from becoming the actual wave that didn't manifest
in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
So they're trying to figure out whether to punt or
go for it on fourth and thirty seven. Probably the
lowest the lowest moment would be representative Jared Golden. By
the way, Maine is in play, Nebraska's in play, Minnesota
is in play, Michigan, Wisconsin's in play.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I don't think we can say.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Virginia, Pennsylvania, Nevada, and Arizona in play because there's solid
Trump now. But this may just kind of summarize everything.
Here's Jared Golden and an op ed piece a Democrat
from Maine saying, you know what, Biden's gonna lose. Trump's
gonna win and I'm okay with that.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
That's a whole new level. Not only is he gonna
lose and we're okay with that? Go figure. I mean,
these are these are tough times. But you know, I
think one thing that's obvious is, you know they needed
the media to control narratives. They did it in twenty
twenty it worked.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
They needed technocracy to block any opposition opinion. They needed
COVID to be weaponized to change election laws for harvesting
and mail in votes.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
They don't have any of that, nor can they hide
them in a basement. And the media has clearly turned
against them.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
And X now owned by the Elon Musk half of
the ability, and we saw that with a Elon Musk holding.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Kamala Harris accountable for lies. You know, you can't get
away with this stuff anymore. It's a new battleground. This
is going to be I don't know how they can
pull this off. They got a punt, but I don't know.
I don't know how to make a long interview out
of the obvious.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
Well, I mean, you know, a lot of the chattering
class has been talking about how Biden has to agree
to step.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Down to do it.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
I mean, you know what I don't like about what
some of our side is saying is, you know, it
upsets the democratic process that they replaced Biden.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Well, that's just not true.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
I mean, ultimately, a political party is sole purpose is
to put forth to Canada that can win an election.
The Democrats are in a position now where the person
out of their primary is incapable of winning the election.
You know, Gretchen Whitner said Michigan is unwinnable. From if
he can't win Michigan, he's certainly not going to win Virginia,
you know, just like there's so many dominoes that fall
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from that statement alone.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
So, I mean, he clearly will not win in November.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
So the party has to decide who they're going to
put up that has a fighting chance. And there's nothing
undemocratic about that from a standpoint of a political process.
Undemocratic would be a November election situation. But the primary
process is its whole purpose is to put forth to
Canada that can win. So it is not democratic in
the sense of the people voting. The people voting don't
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care about partisan politics, and frankly shouldn't. They should have
the best candidates for the jobs to help govern the
country or the state or the locality. So in a way,
the partisan process of it is somewhat of a sideshow whatever.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
They decide to do. You know, the Republicans clearly.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Want to run against Biden, so they have to say
what they want to say. But if there's a little
bit of honesty there, you know. Let's let's let's just
be clear of the.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Well wait a minute, wait a minute. Now, you opened
up a fascinating can of Williams Chris Walker joining us
GOP analyst and consult. All right, so let's take your
first statement. It's not true that Joe Biden would need
to step aside. That's the quickest way. He owns the delegates.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Only he can decide, like LBJ in sixty eight, not
to run and turn his delegates over. There is another path,
and the other path is the twenty fifth Amendment, and
the Democrats turn on him, or at least threatened that
they'll turn on him and impose that maybe force the
cognitive test and other things in that process. But you
just open up another can of worms. And the Republicans
(07:46):
who would want to beat Joe Biden, well, then you
would oppose that twenty fifth Amendment to keep him on
the ticket. I'll do you want even better, which is legally,
even if you do replace him now in three very
key swing states, the laws of Ohio, Pennsylvania, and some
other places Georgia won't allow you to take them off
(08:09):
other than death. So you may not be able to
even be on every ballot. If you make the switch
now you've let so much time pass.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
What a mess, total mess.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
It could couldn't happen to better people.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I mean to the circus music.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Well, let's just go back to twenty twenty and Biden
limiting his choices to a woman of color being his
his VP nominee. Not merit, not quality, not electability, just
two innocuous definitions that really mean nothing about quality. And
we've seen Kamala Harris be almost unpopular vice president's history.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
So not only are.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
They in the process of trying to figure out Biden's
cognitive problems, they don't have a vice president that they
trust even to be remot good in the job that
they have or when November as well. So all this
talk of Newsom or whittmore other people are, you know,
ignoring the blatant fact that the most important decision that
Joe Biden made in his political career was a terrible one.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
And you know they're still running from that.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
I've run a political campaign, not for myself, for someone else.
You've run political campaigns. At this point, I think this
is me. I think their only move is to stick
with Joe and loose and try to play upon the
American people's obsession with the presidency and get a low
turnout and steal the House and Senate. That's your only play.
(09:39):
And quite frankly, who cares who the next president is.
It's only a one term presidency and you got your bench.
And I don't think it's Gavin Newsom. I think it's
a governor in Maryland that you plan for four years
from now.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Anyway, that's right. I think you're right on that.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
The question is though the national Your point about the
f on the presidency's important, and I think it's something
to remind.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
You know, North Carolina is a place. You know, Trump's
a plus.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
Eleven now and there's a serious governor's race in North
Carolina where a lot of people think the Republican wouldn't
win under normal circumstances. But Trump out of plus eleven
Mark Robinson will win that race in North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Government not so fast, you know, because now you're ignoring
Trump is In other words, there are people passionate and
they will show up to vote for Donald Trump because
they this whole notion that well, maybe they'll get lax
and not show up because the poll show they're gonna
win easy, and they'll be as dumb as Hillary was
and be lazy and not show up. No, a Trump
voter will show up. They want a landslide.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
They want to mandate victory over Republicans as much as Democrats.
It doesn't mean necessarily they're ten point passionate uh in
a governor's race or a Senate race or a House race,
but close.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I get your point.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
I wouldn't say that's a ten point win for Robinson,
but it could be an extra three and not could
push them over the line. It could put David McCormick
in a position to win a Senate seat in Pennsylvania.
They probably wouldn't win an under un normal circumstances. The
reason why the Democrat Party is freaking out isn't because
of Joe Biden, per se.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
For themselves.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
You know, the House seats that we've talked about several
times that are in play, the Senate seats that are
in play. Like again, from a standpoint of a Democrat,
if Trump is the biggest existential threat that they have,
how about Trump with you know, a thirty seat majority
in the House and a seven seat majority in the
Senate with a mandate to undo so much. I mean,
we saw Chevron last week, but like, imagine what he
(11:36):
can do if he's really curious about eliminad the income
tax or at all kind of changing the administrative state
in Rollerdwood Will ways, that's that's the bigger thing for
them that they have to fight against.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
And this could be very good for our republic, and
that I you know, I've always felt like if if
we want to see the biggest change in our country,
you want to see the Democrat Party returned to center
or right center. That will make the biggest back on America.
They've gone so far left and taken America to the
left with it that you know, even a very conservative
(12:07):
Donald Trump presidency doesn't pull us back to the right.
But if they come out of this having lost the
presidency to Trump again, losing the Senate and losing big
control in the House and it's no longer close, they're
going to be looking at reinventing themselves. And then the
argument's going to be do we go to the center
or do we go further to the left. And now
they're in the heart of their own civil war with
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the Squad and other elements within their party. They would
face irrelevancy with that kind of a landslide. So that's
probably something they're kicking around the conference room table as well.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Of course, I mean they have to you know, well
my sense is it would bear leftward because just the
loudest voice tends to you know, kind of win in
those circumstances.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
But we'll see. But you know this this.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Is you mentioned Elon and Twitter, and I don't want
to overstate one social media platform, you know, influence. But
look at what's happening in France. You know La Penn
La Penn's party had one seat in the legislature or
you know, in the France's parliament, uh, you know, twenty
years ago.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Now they have a majority.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
You know, look what's happening in Argentina and across the
across the globe that you know, the stuff that Tucker's
been doing in Australia, like there was a huge kind
of wave of anti you know, globalist mentality that's happening
right now. And part of that is of social media,
but part of because all of these failures have been
accumulative and we're seeing that manifested someone like Joe Biden,
(13:37):
who's been you know, a partisan liberals whole life and
people are seeing this for what it is. It's alive,
and so I think it's stuff.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
It's gonna be huge.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
It's death by reality and consequence, all right. So their
worldviews and policies have failed. That's a problem.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I also think there's a death of wokeness going on.
And I don't know what the final straw was. Men
competing with women.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
I don't know, but it's all gotten a little too crazy,
and that's having an influence as well, I believe. Is
there any way you can hold for the break and
just do one more segment?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Or do you need to go?
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:31):
We're having a conversation with Chris Walker, a GOP analyst
and consultant. The question for most of America is did
Joe Biden have a bad night? Or is it good night?
He's cognitively impaired, he see now. Uh, well, it's one
of the quickest deaths in narrative history. Yesterday they were
telling you the polls, We did some internal polling.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Everything looked fine, and we suspect the polling will continue
to look fine.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Well, then that poll leaked and in it is a disaster.
So now what do they do in what's next. How
much of this Chris, and we only have two minutes
unless we want to hold off to the next segment.
But how much of this is our primary process is failing?
And how much of this is the two party system
is failing? And how much of this is power that
doesn't care about any of these candidates or the people
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but maintaining deep state control.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
Well, I mean, the primary process is certainly failing, and
in both parties. Let's let's be franked, you know, not
in the sense of, you know, we obviously like where
some of this is going as a win, but you know,
on the whole, when the state is basically funding you know,
political processes for political parties to you know, to kind
(15:42):
of pick their nominee as kind of a broken process.
State parties have you know, kind of discounted rates for
direct mail and other things, while outside groups do not.
I mean, you know, let's be talking about you know, McCain,
Feineld and other things. I mean, there's just a lot
of things that have happened of the last twenty thirty
years that benefit you know, consultants and you know, the
(16:05):
partisanship of politics rather than kind of good governance, and
you know, the like better results. So you know, it's
something I've been kind of thinking about for a while
and seeing this kind of happen in real time, where
the Democrats have kind of rigged their primary process to
favor their incumbent, you know, and they're they're stuck with
this now and they're trying to figure out what to do.
It's a big part of the problem.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Yeah, and because of this historic nightmare, maybe they will
historically solve this.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
But what I'm hearing you say is.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Free and fair elections, well not so much with primaries.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
They're very tipped towards incumbents.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Good morning, thirty six minutes after the hour on this Wednesday,
July the third, you have our load twenty twenty four
the proverbial twenty four minutes to be to work on time. Warning,
we're visiting with the Chris Walker. You know, Chris, I
did something I guess because of the subconsciously because of
the news, because of the chaos. I think what finally
sent me over the edge was the new Gallup poll numbers.
(17:23):
America has never been less proud to be an American
than right now. And it's very partisan, so Republicans are
far more proud to be Americans far more patriotic, and
the center and left far less, but all are actually down.
I thought, you know, I'm going to do some research.
(17:43):
I want to find something new to focus on so
that I have an Independence Day and not a fourth
of July, if you're following me.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
And believe it or not. In all of my rabbit hole,
I found about five or six things I didn't know, Like,
did you know the Liberty bell rings thirteen times every
fourth of July for the thirteen original colonies. I did
not know that.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
The one that's in the museum or a different bell.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I assumed the one that's still operational.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Yeah, that's interesting. I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I mean, I don't think they can ring the one
in the museum, can they?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
I don't think so either.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
I mean I wouldn't have seen it, So, I mean,
that's that's fascinating.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
All right, I can tell you. But trust me, they
get better, all right.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Even though we celebrate Independence Day on the fourth of
July now most call it fourth of July. The declaration
itself has dated the fourth of July, but it was
actually voted on July second.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
We could be doing second of July.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
In fact, all didn't sign it until August second, we
could be celebrating the second of August instead of the
fourth of July.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
To July season.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I'm a Yankee noodle Danny born on the second of All.
I guess it wouldn't have had the same ring to it.
This one I found fascinating. Did you know that three
signers of the Declaration of Independence died on the fourth
of July? And two of them died Jefferson.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
I don't know the other two, well.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Only one, James Monroe. I did not know that.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
John Adams and Thomas Jefferson, two of my top five
presidents ever, both died on the fourth of July.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I didn't know that. And James Monroe died.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
On the same day. It wasn't even the fourth of July.
They died on the same fourth of July.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Wait, it gets even better.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Fifty years after the signing of the Declaration, Oh man.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
You're doing good.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
On the fiftieth anniversary of the fourth of July. Thomas Jefferson,
who is credited with writing the Declaration of Independence, and
John Adams are second president. Both died in the fiftieth
anniversary on the fourth of July. In eighteen twenty six.
Five years later, in eighteen thirty one, James Monroe also
a signer of the Declaration of Independence. I think everybody
knows John Hancock is so big because he was the first,
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and I don't think.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
He had an idea of how many names had to
fit on it. You ever have people like in the
office they passed around a birthday card, And if you're first,
you know you're real huge and you didn't leave room
for everybody else.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Did you know who the youngest? I mean, I'm ready
to make a quiz out of it. You're so good.
Do you know who the youngest signer was?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Barlett? No? No, no, no, no, no no sorry, South Carolina Rutledge.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yes, you're impressive. Wow.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
I did not I would have not been able to
know that. Edward Rutledge, twenty six years old, the youngest
to sign the Declaration of Independence South Carolina. The first
ever Fourth of July celebration at the White House was
eighteen oh one with Thomas Jefferson. Do you know what
the population was in seventeen seventy six, roughly the size.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Of Nashville un now fifty thousand.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
No, it's two point five million. That did strike me high.
In the country, Yeah, in the country, it was.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Two point five million, and now it's three hundred and
fifty million. I'm trying to think we import a loan
six hundred million dollars worth of fireworks, which kind of
brings up John Adams had written a letter to his
wife on the occasion of the Declaration of Independent He said,
this is a big deal. They're going to celebrate this
for many, many centuries to come, and they'll celebrate with parades,
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bonfires and fireworks. Boy was he right about parades and fireworks.
Do you know the oldest Fourth of July parade? If
you know this, I'm going to fall over.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
The oldest Fourth of July parade, I would have to
say it would be in Massachusetts. I'm gonna go with Concord, Massachusetts.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Probably wrong, but that's what i'm gonna go with.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Yeah, Massas would have been a good That would have
been a good guest. Maybe Philadelphia, where it was signed,
would be No, it was Bristol, Rhode Island, seventeen eighty five.
And the longest Fourth of July parade is Alameda, California,
three point three miles. Anyway, just some things I did,
you know, interesting thing, but I did not believe it
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or not. I didn't know that John Adams and Thomas
Jefferson died in the same day, let alone on the
fourth of July, let alone on the fiftieth anniversary of
the signing.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
All right, I want to know what Adams? Do you
know what?
Speaker 5 (22:11):
Adam's last words were, independence for all and Jefferson survives.
Is what he said is last words something up to
that effect. I may be butchering a little bit, but
independence for all and Jefferson survived.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Wow, all right, if you're just waking up one of
the quickest narrative depths in political history. So remember, right
after the debate, it was, oh, that was a bad
performance by Joe Biden, but it's Donald Trump that you
step down. He's a serial liar. Then by Sunday it
was Okay, that's a bad performance, but a bad performance
(22:48):
doesn't erase a great presidency.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Then the narrative shifted to, oh, he had a cold.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Then it was he had a cold, but then Biden says,
it's because I did so much world traveling and I
was sleepy. Then the White House and the administration says
we did some internal polling. There is no negative polls
since the debate, and we suspect that that's how all
the polls will look. The biggest problem is that internal
(23:16):
memo of polling leaked and in it there's some disastrous results.
Forty percent of those who supported Joe Biden in twenty
twenty do not plan to support him this time around.
He's lost forty percent of his base. That's a crisis.
Then the next big thing takeaway is swing states all
(23:36):
lost irreparably, but now you've got a lot of solid
blue states that are now up for grabs. I mean
not just swing states. They are coin tosses. Colorado. Prior
to the debate, Biden led by three point seven percent.
That's down to one point nine percent. And that's as
good as it gets Colorado. Minnesota, which I said was
in play and I expect RFK to have a very
(24:01):
significant influence here. Two point four percent was the lead
for Biden in Minnesota prior to the debate. Now it's
down to zero point four percent. It's a toss up.
Main Biden was leading by two point two percent. Now
he leads by just zero point two percent. It's a
coin toss. New Mexico. He was leading by two percentage points.
(24:21):
Now he's trailing by a half a percentage point. Virginia.
By the way, this may be their pre debate poll,
but we've seen other polling that had the president former
president Donald Trump up in Virginia by a point. Theirs
had Biden leading by a point and a half. Now
he's trailing by point six. Maybe it just caught up
New Hampshire.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Well, yeah, you can chime out on any of these.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
What if he picks Youngkin as his VP nominee. They
we think about what that does for Virginia and frankly Maryland.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
I mean, but yes, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Here's New Hampshire where the president, former president Donald Trump
was up by half a point, Now he's up by three.
Wisconsin he was trailing by two prior to the debate.
Now he's trailing by four point two percent, beyond the
margin of air. Nebraska, he was trailing by two and
a half points. Now he's trailing almost double by four
(25:16):
point three percent. Now it gets really ugly. Michigan, where
he was trailing by five percent. The governor came out
and said, we can't win Michigan anymore. He now trails
by seven. Pennsylvania, considered a swing state, not so much anymore.
Trump was leading by five point one percent. Now he
leads by seven point three percent. This is the White
House's own polling. Nevada, Arizona, the two West Coast swing states,
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Trump was leading by six point nine percent and seven
point six percent, respectively. Now he leads by eight point
eight and nearly double digits nine point seven percent. Georgia,
North Carolina double digit leads for Trump ten point one
percent in Georgia, ten point six percent in North Carolina.
Number One, they lied and their life is exposed. Within
(26:01):
twenty four hours we did pauling doesn't show any losses
after the debate shows massive loss is a massive problem.
So number one, they lied. What else are they lying about?
Maybe it's cognitive ability?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (26:13):
And then secondly, how do you win with a map
that looks like this? Swing states are all dominated by
Trump and now solid blue states or swing states.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
That's a problem.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
They can't, you know, they absolutely can't. And let's you know,
unpackaging that a little bit. Let's I mean Nebraska.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
You mentioned Nebraska, that's actually the blue congressional district, So
I mean that's the Omaha area, and they're down there,
which is you know, kind of blue city, think about
like a like the cities, and you know, you and
I live in Tennessee. Like that's like the city of
Nashville going Republican and you know that's that's the only
blue part of the state. So that's an interesting piece
(26:53):
of it as well.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Yeah, and that's one that will be split on the
electoral cultually.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
So you know what I find is fascinating about this Again,
I think there's a couple of points that I'd like
to make. Just one that's a flashpoll immediately after the debate, right, so, yes,
it leaked, And I think that's a very interesting point
in its own right that you know, people on the
campaign or having to like like send stuff or reports
to raise the flag of concern. But I don't think
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we've even seen the full impact of the debate outcome yet,
because we've had a full almost a week now of
Biden's incognitive decline.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Biden is incapable of doing the job people like.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
Openly and brazenly talking brazenly just like seriously having to
say the words of like twenty fifth Amendment. So like
an internal poll that was conducted on the friday after
the debate, is not taking into account how many people
are continuing to jump. That seventy three percent number of
Democrats that want to see someone else win isn't even.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Included in some of these numbers yet.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
So I think we're at the beginning of what we're
going to see as a pretty negative moment for Biden.
I think those numbers are only going to get worse.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
The CNN poll that you're referencing is registered voters, by
the way, twenty five percent to seventy five percent say
someone else, an alternate presidential candidate, would do better than
Joe Biden. So there's a loss of trust and belief,
and it seems insurmountable.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
By the way, if they.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Turn to Kamala Harris, the rest muse some pole suggests
it won't go much better. Forty one percent of likely
US voters have a favorable impression of Kamala Harris, including
twenty percent very favorable.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
She doesn't pull much better than Donald Trump does.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
So, you know, we celebrate Independence Day, we come back
from the holiday. I suspect the Democrats don't know what
to do. Let's see if they have a plan. We
get back from the holiday and visit next week because
right now I don't think they know what to do.
One thing's for sure, the media is turned against it.
These leaks are a good sign of that. The polling
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number suggests he can't win. I think they're looking at
whether or not to punt or go for it. On
fourth and thirty seven, bad night or good night to
Joe Biden. I think the people are saying good night,
and the administration still trying to and Democrats are desperately
still trying to point to bad night, but nobody's buying
(29:15):
it yet.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
Well, and again, I just I would reiterate how much
this impact Senate races. I mean, every one of those
swing states Michigan, Nevada, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin all have Senate
races this year. And you know, Debbie Sabine is not
running for election in Michigan, that's an open seat. You
know McCormick, and Pennsylvania has deep pockets. You know Eric
(29:41):
Hovedy and Wisconsin has deep pockets. Carrie Lake can be competitive.
I mean, if Trump is winning by nine in Arizona,
that brings carry Lake potentially across the finish line in Arizona.
So you know what we were talking about a month ago,
which is just two or three Senate seats potentially picking
up are now becoming six or seven, which is a
complete disaster for the Democrats. So they have to they
(30:03):
have to say, as you say, good night, because and
I suspect too much for them, And.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
I suspect that's what the governors may say to him today. Uh.
And then of course a lot will be hinged on
his his interview with George Stephanopolis, which is supposed to
fix all this, or maybe ABC and going to turn
on them too, and think about this.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
Jamie Prisker was going to zoom in He's coming to DC.
Gavin Newsom is coming to DC for this meeting to
this afternoon. It's not a zoom call. These people are
coming straight to his face and they're going to say,
is this is becoming untenable?
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Yeah? Because a very interesting position.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Because and I'll just and I will give you the
closing remark, but I would say, if the strategy is
we go with Biden and lose, who cares it's a
one term presidency.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
We're going to focus.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Well, now you got to get all your money that
would have gone to Biden to go to these other
candidates to try to lose the presidency but secure the
Senate and House seats. That's a rough patch. I still
think that even points so there's got to be people
sitting around the conference room table saying, we got to
make a switch. If nothing else, even if we make
a switch and lose, make enough of a switch to
create some momentum to protect these Senate House seats.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
That's where I think you're right on the money.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
I think, you know, be prepared to hear a lot
of you know, our good friend Jim Carafano and heritage,
they're going to be They're just gonna be. He'll need
our support as much as ever because you're gonna hear
Project twenty twenty five and the boogeyman of all of
the bad things that Republicans and Conservatives want to do
they've been talking about for four years but actually have
the potential to do now if all of this continues
(31:33):
to hold, you know, they're going to try to make
every single effort to improve the lives of people with
you know, less government in their lives will be.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Looked as boogeymen.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
So, you know, even if all this campaign stuffesn't matter,
they're going to have to figure out some way to
do it. I would imagine that Project twenty twenty five
and other things like that are going to be even
more at a high pitch volume of saying the sky's
falling when it won't.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
So there's gonna be a lot of vigilance on our
end that we need to do.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
And remember too, Erica's proclivity to want checks and balances.
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We got some special programming for you on Thursday and Friday,
and we'll see you Monday after the holiday. Right back
slaving over a hot microphone, if you're just waking up
the big story. Former President trump sentencing in the New
York hush money case has been postponed to mid September, and,
according to Judge Marsha, on September eighteenth, if it's still necessary,
(32:42):
they may lose the whole case, the only law fair
victory they had. Well, they won't get their sentencing right
before the Republican Convention. They may not even hang onto
the conviction. Meanwhile, a mad scramble. We know Barack Obama's
express concern. We have governors coming to express concern. Everybody's
trying to position this is a bad night but the
polls suggest, and a lot of Democrats suggest it's goodbye.
(33:07):
Not a bad night, it's goodbye for Joe Biden. We'll
see how that plays out over the long holiday weekend.
We do have a hurricane to keep our eye on,
and we don't know exactly how this is going to
fare out. Forecasters are watching Hurricane Barrel and its impact
on the US. It's a Category four, now expected to
(33:28):
decrease in intensity as it heads through the Caribbean.
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