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Speaker 1 (00:37):
That ticket is ZET. Donald Trump and his running mate,
Ohio Senator jd Vance. Republican delegates formally nominated Trump. He
will formally accept in a speech Thursday night, though he
made a triumphant appearance last night in nine one Night One,
and he has one less legal worry with the huge
dismissal of the federal classified documents case. Meanwhile, the director

(00:59):
of the Secret Service as Saturday shooting in Pennsylvania was
unacceptable and the buck stops with her, So will she
step aside and resign? Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:08):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
In fact, the very person who led the unacceptable protection
of a former president and a commander in chief, says
she wants to be the one to investigate it. I
think this falls under foreign policy and certainly military jurisdiction.
After all, the protection of a former commander in chief

(01:29):
and by polls, the next commander in chief would certainly
fall under national security. Lieutenant Colonel James Carafana was joining
us James those buildings one hundred and thirty yards away
with a straight line shot at the stage. How on earth?
And now reports that they knew he was there thirty
minutes prior to the shooting. I guess the opening question

(01:52):
is does this look like lack of personnel, lack of planning,
or something worse?

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Here Harris Wood was indisputable and actually this hasn't changed
in the last seventy two hours. I mean, this is
I think a parent within the first hour. One end, obviously,
the shooter getting to that elevation, having the line fire
to the president, that is just a total operational failure.

(02:24):
That's completely, unarguably inexcusable. And the other one is is
you you pick your timeline if it's five minutes or
thirty minutes or or more, if there's a known threat
or a suspected threat, not communicating that to the President's
detail and not immediately evacuating him from the stage until

(02:47):
the situation is cleared up. That's an inexcusable failure of communications,
because I seriously doubt that they say, hey, we think
we have a shooter in the audience, and then the
agents would just let the president kind of stand there
in public. So there these are total operational failures. Now.
I know a lot of people have talked about the

(03:07):
problems within the Secret Service DEI having Secret Service agents
appointing to the president who are half the size of
the president, so they can't actually and and did they
lead to an operational failure? I don't think we know that.

(03:29):
Here's what we do know for a fact. I mean,
this isn't Republican spin or conservative paranoia. All the three
letter initials D, SG, ESG, CRT, wherever they have been
applied in academia, in business, and in government, they have

(03:50):
delivered poorer outcomes, less effectiveness. And they've all served both
the members of the organization, customers, employers, employees, and and
and the and the and the and the people they're serving.
There's no question that that these programs lower operational effectiveness. Now,

(04:18):
whether they contributed to this failure or not doesn't matter.
They're bad. They're hurting the Secret Service and they should
be stopped. But you know, look to your early comment,
which I know wasn't good. Why why is the director
of the Secret Service still there? Why did she not resign?
Because she should resign because this is this is a

(04:39):
complete operational failure under her watch. I mean, who who
is going to take responsibility for this? And this has
been a consistent theme, and democratic government says when there
is failure, the one thing we can count on is
that nobody in charge is held accountable.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
You know, there is cases that are based on DNA
and heard evidence and they speak for themselves. And then
there are circumstantial cases where the art of prosecution really
takes place. In a circumstantial case, you could make this
is somebody they have tried to character assassinate when he

(05:19):
was president, and after he was president, they tied him
up with law fare and tied him up in courtrooms
and tried to disqualify them so they wouldn't have to
face them. I mean, there's a lot of things that
lead to and then when none of that worked, you know,
would you go the next step? And then this level
of dereliction of duty and mystery, I mean, how do
you get on the roof? And you know, was he

(05:41):
walking around with a ladder? Nobody knows. But unlike Daily Plaza,
we have a bunch of phones. We know with a
timeline when he was first noticed, how law enforcement was notified,
how no one got on their radio and notified the
Secret Service, how the snipers didn't make note of him
or take him out early, or take the president off
the stage until they resolved it. I mean, you could

(06:02):
make a circumstantial case. It'd be pretty open and shut
in the courtroom.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Well, it wouldn't be open and shut in the courtroom,
and you can make a circumstantial case. And you know,
we've had these conversations over the years on so many
different issues, and you know me as my instinct is
always to go with the simplest, most logical explanation in
an absence of fact, and then the additional facts come
in then we adjust. So, you know, could COVID have spawned?

(06:30):
You know, sure in nature we have we have lots
of that disease that actually comes out of nature, that
was the logical explanation didn't preclude the fact that it
might have come out of a Chinese lot. But the
simplest explanation was that didn't matter. I mean, the Chinese
are responsible for a global spread of COVID, that those
are relevant. More facts come out now, I think the

(06:53):
light not only the likely, the only plausible explanation is
that this originated from a Chinese lab which was doing
gain a functional research and and and that is you know,
part of the reason why the Chinese covered it up here. Look,
the simple explanation is this is a coloss of operational failure.

(07:15):
The facts fit that now are if additional facts come out,
an actual like proof of Malfeves's and that been asked,
okay to look at. But if you think about this,
most actually every assassination attempt and I would include Lee,
Hobby Oswald and this the guys girls that the ones

(07:39):
that worked and failed were more lucky than good. And
what I mean is that is if you were if
you were Carlos the jackal, right, and you would say
that is not how they would do that. All these
people were stupid and and did things that should have failed.
Whether you're Sirhan, Sirhan, or or you of You're You're

(08:01):
only lucky because because there were were or Lincoln, because
there were operational failures that allowed stupid, crazy people to
get lucky and kill people. This guy's whole strategy for
shooting the president was stupid, including his choice of weapon,
even at that range. If you were really serious about

(08:24):
trying to assassinate the president, you would you would have
a sniper rifle and uh, and well there's a whole
bunch of other things you wouldn't do. So I would
say right now, the root of this is an operational failure. Now,
if you want to tell me that that that they

(08:45):
the Secret Service, could have cared less about Donald Trump
and and through you know, because we know for a
fact that that he didn't have a full deal deal
of secret Service, that they did sort change his his coverage,
and that that is unbelievably dangerous in these kind of events,

(09:07):
like so last night at the Republican Convention, Donald Trump
walks on stage and he's surrounded by the Roman legion,
I mean twelve foot tall guys. You know, they'll all
look like football players. Okay, well, that's in a secure environment, right,
wrong place, for that right. But but but in an
open field with almost no time to set up security,

(09:29):
and the president's got known death threats against him, not
having air time, that's just an excuse.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
I always say there are three. There are three. President.
You're a historian and taught history, but there are three
presidents in my opinion, that we're never supposed to be, Lincoln, JFK,
and Trump. Lincoln and JFK both assassinated, and Trump about
about a centimeter away if he didn't tilt his head
from being assassinated in any of the pre planning, knowing

(09:56):
that field, knowing where the stage is, looking at those
buildings one hundred and thirty miles away, how was that
ever considered out a perimeter? And why wasn't there a
man on the roof? I mean no, I.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Don't think The one thing that no one will claim
is that the roof should not have been secured and
that somehow you know that was fine inside or outside.
The nobody would argue.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
That, what about thirty minutes to act and nobody got
on a two way I got the again, President, Nobody.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
That is indefensible, right. That is the number one thing
you do is if you have a known or suspected threat.
You immediately communicate that to the detail so they can
secure the president until that's result. That is that is
more than I mean, that's just freaking common sense. That
that didn't happen is also an indisputable failure. So this

(10:48):
is the problem that they have. They have two completely
indisputable operational failures.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
And what about the shooter, I mean, no real social
media in presence, there's no real narrative behind him in
terms of radicalization. He's a bit of a strange mystery too,
isn't he.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
You know, before the days of social media, right when
we all put all of our lives on online in
our phones and stuff. If you look at a lot
of these folks, they were on nobody's radar screen, you know,
Sarah huntster On. I mean, you know, the only reason
why we know so much about Lehavey Oswald is he
was actually a communist. He actually made contact with the

(11:33):
Russian government. You know, he had kind of a really
bizarre footprint for a crazy shooter. But a lot of
nobody can even tell you who Henry Harrison's you know,
who shot Harrison or who shot teddy Rosa. Nobody remembers
these people, so it's it's it's not unusual that they

(11:54):
that they don't have big footprints. But you know, I know, look,
any in the absence of evidence, you can fill in
the blank whatever you want, but it doesn't make whatever
you want more reasonable and more likely and more logical.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
I mean, I think you'll agree with me though, that
she should be gone. The fact that absolute Biden hasn't
done anything, the fact that we don't have a narrative
anti gun narrative after this attempt, I think is strange. Uh,
And I think we would agree she should not be
the one to investigate her failure.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
And the fact that we went what was like seventy
two hours before they gave RFK secret service protection.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
That's yeah, really inexplicable. And by the way, we've we've
got his phones, his computers, and we still don't have
any idea what his motive was. Are we even have
we even gotten into the I don't know. An FBI
was seventy two hours ish and they still hadn't gotten
into his phone. I don't know what that what took
so long with that as well? There's more to come
on this, and it's not going to be good.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
I don't. Yeah, look, here's here and then again, you know,
I mean, I don't do politics, but here here's my
assessment of how this impacts the race. It has really
dampened down the calls to replace by and I think

(13:22):
the reason for that is as this is, his chances
of winning are so low that they don't want to
go through the pain of replacing him and losing anyway.
I mean, here's the real and look and protect.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Whoever they're going to run in four years too, and
not have them run and loose.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Right, all they have even now, all they have is
hate and anger. Right, there's no vision, there's no defense
of their agenda. It's just these evil Republicans. And now
they're just trying to figure out how to say these
guys are evil, you know, and not and not right.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Well, it's it's hard to say it's time to you know,
dampen things down, cool off the rhetoric and the vitriol. Uh,
and unite when you know you can't unite, You can't
even unite your own party over your your your your
sitting president and nominee. It's a difficult position for them
to be in.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
If you look at the Lester Holton interview. Right, Biden
had the same talking points. Nothing changed. There was no
you know, we're going to rise above this and talk
about He kept saying we should talk about policy.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
His inaugural address, his inaugural His inauguration address was on unity,
and then he walked across the street and failed it.
His address Sunday was on unity, and he got Molester Holton.
Failed it. But everything would have changed if that shot
would have hit. That's the circumstantial case. All right, great visit.

(14:48):
We'll talk again next week. Lieutenant Colonel James Carafano with
the Heritage Foundation. You can read his work and his
colleagues great work at Heritage dot org. Love you, my friend.
This is your Morning Show with Michael Detona Well. A
triumphant opening night for the RNC Convention, highlighted of course,
by the announcement of the running mate, JD. Vance, the

(15:12):
return of Donald Trump didn't speak, but made an appearance.
It was electric. Amber Rose in the Everyday American segment,
telling what I think is a brilliant strategy being woven
throughout this campaign, and I think it's woven into the JD.
Van story. It's okay to have been wrong on Trump
on the past and get on board. That's the kind
of message you can make a difference, just as JD.

(15:33):
Van's camp in Michigan, Wisconsin, across the border from Ohio
and Pennsylvania and deliver for Donald Trump. Meanwhile, for Joe Biden,
think about this disastrous debate the mate good with Stephanopoulos.
That was a disaster. Now the sit down with Lester

(15:54):
Holt also a disaster. In it, he fails his pledge
Sunday night in less than forty eight hours. In it,
he admits shouldn't have said bullseye.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
It was a mistake to use where I didn't say crosshairs, bulls.

Speaker 5 (16:09):
I'm going to focus on it.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah. Unfortunately, after initially saying it was a mistake to
use the word, he continued on saying he hasn't engaged
in that type of vitriol and rhetoric and then accused
Trump of using questionable language. So much for lowering the temperature,
so much for unity. Now Donald Trump is responsible for

(16:31):
his own assassination attempt. This is interesting from this standpoint,
and this isn't my opinion. This was what they said
in the shadow campaign to Save the Democracy. The strategist
of twenty twenty in Time magazine was to hide Joe
Biden in a basement, weaponize COVID, change election laws, and
save the democracy, and that hinged on hiding him in

(16:53):
a basement. Can't hide when you're on the campaign trail gaffing,
can't hide when you're fall asleeping, falling asleep during speeches
or the debate or with Stepanofos. Why do they keep
pushing him out front and center. That's a strategy to
push him out So far Joe is in budget and
the failed assassination isn't helping him. Budge Hi, It's Michael.

(17:14):
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We'd love to be a part of your morning routine,
but we're happy you're here now. Enjoy the podcast. The
ticket is set. Trump picked Ohio Senator jd Vance. JD
has a brilliant, amazing life story. He's very eloquent, a Yale,

(17:37):
top of his class after graduating from Ohio State and
serving in the Marine Corps. Even better, this guy can
go right across the border from Ohio and reach people
in Pennsylvania or handle Michigan, Wisconsin. I'd even throw Minnesota,
very key to Donald Trump's map and strategy. And while
the left is chomping at the bit, Oh, we got

(17:58):
a guy that one's called Trump Pittler, I mean he
was the never of never trumpers. Well, that was a
part of the message that I think was really brilliantly
delivered by Hamber Rose last night and the Everyday American segment,
which is it's okay to have bought the narratives, the demonization,
or to have been wrong about Trump in the past,
and it's okay to like him now. I think that's
built into jd Vance's story as well. Also, one less

(18:20):
worry for Donald Trump the huge dismissal of his federal
classified documents case joining us now is a Supreme Court
bar attorney as well as your morning show White House
correspondent John Decker lots to cover. Let's start with the
dismissal of this case. I know it'll be appealed, but
how big of a moment was this for Donald Trump.

Speaker 6 (18:38):
Well, it's a big moment. Right at the start of
the Republican National Convention, caught a lot of people by surprise,
including myself. It was a long shot legal theory, and
sometimes Michael longshot's win, as that's what happened here. Now,
as you point out, it will be appealed to the
Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals. Whoever loses at that level

(18:58):
will likely appeal it to the US Supreme Court. But regardless,
what it means is that the classified documents case against
Donald Trump will not happen before the November election. So
huge victory yesterday for Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
He was supposed to be sentenced before the convention. He
survives an assassination attempt. Now this is dismissed. The other
case was it was postponed until September. Is thirty four convictions.
But then Judge Marshaun was quick to point out, and
that's if it's necessary based on a Supreme Court ruling
about immunity. So yeah, things couldn't be going better for

(19:34):
Donald Trump. You've been in Milwaukee for the convention. How
electric were things yesterday with Donald Trump surviving assassination attempt
and then making an appearance?

Speaker 6 (19:42):
Oh huge, thunderous applause. You know I have video that
I took and everyone had their phones out. The video
as he entered into the convention hall last evening, the
Fizer for him, that's where the Milwaukee Bucks played basketball,
and there were for some delegate tears in their eyes.
I mean, this is a person who just survived a

(20:03):
brush with death. So he came in towards the conclusion
of the convention state for the remainder of it, sat
next to his vice presidential running mate jd. Vance. Big
moment on the first night of the convention for all
of those delegates in attendance, and for Donald Trump as well.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
I think for Republicans that was a huge emotional moment.
I think jd Vance turned out to be a highlight.
I think Tim Scott had some great moments. I would
point to was probably had the Democrats going oh poo poo.
The most was Amber Rose reaching young people, telling the story.

(20:44):
I believed narratives, I believe demonizations. I hated Trump. My
father challenged me why I did research. I came to
this conclusion that's an old poop moment and they're having
trouble with young voters. And then to have Sean O'Brien,
the president of the Teamsters union, out and deliver the
speech that he delivered the notion that the Democrats could
be losing the working classmen and women of America and

(21:06):
the Teamsters Union. Those were poopoo moments for the Democrats.
I think if this is a boxing match, those were
the knockouts. Not so much Lee Green, would Donald Trump, JD.
Vance and some other really really good moments for the party.

Speaker 6 (21:20):
Well as far as the team Stress president, and a
reminder he did not endorse stuff.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
He did not.

Speaker 6 (21:25):
If you're waiting for that, that didn't happen. And he
lost the audience because he was saying things so at
odds with the Republican Party platform about organized labor, just
lost them. In fact, you know, I have a nice
spot inside the convention Center, inside the arena. I always
bring binoculars, always bring binoculars to these events, and I'm

(21:46):
one of the few that remembers to do that. And
I'm watching that box where Donald Trump is, and I'm
looking at all of those individuals in the box, Tucker
Carlson and jd Vance, the Trump family. They don't know
what to make of this speech because it is so
at odds with everything within the Republican Party platform. He
lost a good number of those delegates last night they

(22:08):
didn't know whether to clap to not clap anything. I
think he went on too long. Also, that's another thing
that I think was, Yeah, no, I had and I
gave the audience it's time to wrap things up.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Well, yeah, but I would say this, it's brilliant for
those independents you're trying to reach in key battleground states,
and even the notion that this convention will at least
allow me to come. He didn't make any promises or
any or lose to any deals that had been made,
and I thought that made it strong. Amber Rose, to me,
was the was the most damaging for the Democrats speech

(22:40):
of the night, and then of course the Trump moment
any other moment. I mean, they kind of buried Katie
Britt as they should, Marjorie Taylor Green as they should,
Christy I shot my puppy Gnome as they should, Charlie
Kirk as they should. And I think that well, they
got in there, they got him out of the way.
They went mostly unnoticed, I thought. But the whole messaging

(23:00):
of it was it's okay to be wrong about Trump,
or it's okay to not like him, but you can't
argue his policies. Are right for America again today. I
think that's a brilliant strategy and I think that's where
Sean O'Brien falls in and reaching out to those undecided voters,
independent voters, or normal Democrat voters. It may not have

(23:21):
been a good night in the building for them having
Sean speak, but it's an oh, by the way, for
moving the needle in these swing states. I thought messaging
was was really strong.

Speaker 6 (23:33):
Well, I'll tell you there was a speech that was
delivered not by someone well known, not by an influencer,
not by a politician. It was by, you know, just
a regular voter who indicated her speech. She voted for
Joe Biden in twenty twenty, and she was there and
she explained that she made a mistake. She explained that

(23:54):
she intends to vote for Donald Trump in twenty twenty four. That,
to me, even though she's so unknown, was the most
effective speech if you're trying to reach out to those
people who did not vote for Donald Trump in twenty twenty,
but you want their vote in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Oh and oh, by the way, she's a legal immigrant
whose kids have two three jobs now and spoke against
illegal immigrants, which made it extra powerful. I thought the
whole segment with Everyday Americans was the most powerful and
scored the most political points last night. We're agreement on that.
You be watching tonight from the floor. I'll be watching
from home, and we'll talk about it again tomorrow. John Decker,

(24:34):
White House Correspondence. Love our time together, all right. Can't
have your morning show without your voice.

Speaker 7 (24:41):
Time moving a Catherine Kim.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
Finish again. Cath writes Michael, I think Trump should open
his speech on Thursday night with my fellow Americans. Lend
me your ear. Yeah, perhaps too soon, dear Michael. My
husband and I watched the R and C last night
and heard the speech from the president of the Teamsters. However,

(25:24):
the one thing he needed to express is there are
jobs out there. People who get hired need to show
up for work. We saw a sign of Pigeon Forge,
Tennessee on an ihop that said hiring anyone who will
actually show up for work. Those are everywhere. Uh yeah,
I've seen signs all the time of people saying, please

(25:47):
be nice to the host because they showed up for
work today. That is a part of the equation that
isn't being discussed. Michael This is Jim. I emailed you
shortly after you started your morning show last fall. That email,
I called myself a recovering talk radio junkie and said
you were the only person that ever gave the legendary
Rush Limbaugh competition in the same time slot. This morning,

(26:11):
you have fully replaced him as the best friend I
never met. I found myself over the weekend anxious to
hear your commentary on the assassination attempt, just as I
used to do with Rush Limbaugh. The one thing I
failed to mention in that first note was why you
gave him a run. Your combination of information, humor, and
faith is unmatched. You displayed that beautifully on the morning

(26:34):
after the presidential assassination attempt. Keep up the great work,
both politically and for the kingdom. There is a reason
bigger than your talent that you are in twenty plus markets. Jim,
I knew Rush Limbaugh. He was a friend of mine.
I am no Rush Limbaugh, but thank you you are
too kind. Keep the emails coming, Michael did at iHeartMedia

(26:57):
dot Com. Hi, I'm Keith Andrews and Mobile, Alabama, and
my morning show is your morning show with Michael del
jarn the Republican National Convention made plenty of headlines in
its first day. President Trump picked Ohio Senator JD. Vance
as his running mate, and he was officially nominated on

(27:17):
the convention floor.

Speaker 6 (27:18):
It is therefore my honor to nominate Ohio Senator JD.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Vance for the office.

Speaker 7 (27:25):
Of Vice President of the United.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
States of America. Meanwhile, Trump won the Republican Party's nomination
for president. He officially accepted the nomination in a speech
on Thursday. Trump made a triumphant early visit to the
convention on Night one. Rob Dawson begins our team coverage.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
The Republican nominee in twenty twenty four has made an
appearance into the five Serve Forum, lifting his fists.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Up and now the chance of fight, fight, fight, as everyone.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
Looks towards the former president and shouts those words, those
same words that Trump shouted after he was shot on Saturday.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
And Trump under the Republican National Convention Monday evening to
a live performance of League green Wood Gone Bless the
USA and widespread applause from the crowd. The crowd also
chanted fight, Fight, Fight as Trump appeared in the arena
and took a seat in the vip box alongside his
running made Ohio Senator JD. Vance, his sons Donald Trump
Junior and Eric Trump, and House Speaker Mike Johnson. He

(28:24):
was sporting on bandage on his ear where he was
hit with a bullet. Trump on Monday officially secured the
GOP nomination for president.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
I'm Mark Neyfield, roy O'Neil, of course, is in Milwaukee
for the Republican Convention. Was on the floor, Rory. Give
us a sense of what it was like to be there.
What do you sense were the big moments and low moments?

Speaker 5 (28:41):
Well, obviously the appearance of Donald Trump last night was
a highlight. I think that we had known throughout the
day that he was going to be at the convention.
Didn't know exactly how, whether there would be a speech,
if you would be with.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
His vice presidential candidate.

Speaker 5 (28:57):
Obviously the day had started, we didn't even know who
the was going to be here. So pretty transformational day.
And that's got to be a pretty good day in
Donald Trump's book. When you add in the court ruling
out on the mar Lago documents case to wrapping the
day piketting the Republican nomination.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
To be president, I mean that is running the gamut.
You talk about us not knowing Donald Trump had made
his decision when the morning started. In fact, it came
down to Vance and Marco Rubio, and Vance admitted with
Sean Hannity he didn't get the call till about ten thirty.
That's why there's no Trump Vance signs that are made
that were making it with lipstick instead. What do you

(29:34):
think made the final decision?

Speaker 5 (29:36):
Well, as I said before, I think it was that
the way that JD. Vance coordinated the event in East Palestine,
Ohio following that train derailment. I think that's Axios has
reporting saying that's really where Donald Trump was first really
impressed by J. D.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Vance.

Speaker 5 (29:53):
Keep in mind, you know, not too many years prior
to that, Vance had been a top line never Trumper
and highly critical of the former president. But after the
East Palestine trained derailment, Trump started to take a different
look at Vance. Vance started to take a different look
at Trump, and here we are today.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
I think that's part of it. My theory, of course,
is that Donald Trump Junior is who finally helped his
father break the tie. And we talked about you pick
somebody that's ready to be president, and I think jd Vance,
The president feels the former president feels comfortable that he
is can bring a key state, can unite the party.
How do you think he fares on those scorecards? Yeah,

(30:34):
he'll do well.

Speaker 5 (30:34):
And I think as I spoke to last hour, I said,
my immediate reaction was, oh boy, jd Vance versus Ron
DeSantis in four years, because it really does show that
the party is going to be in the following Trump's ideals.
This is not the party of George Bush and Mitt
Romney and even Mitch McConnell. The GOP is a different thing.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Yeah, and trump Ism protecting trump Ism in the field,
not allowing it to be absorbed like the Tea Party,
but become like a Reagan revolution that moves forward with
Jade Vans. And I think there's an open door for
somewhere for Donald Trump Junior. The true future of Trump
is to be a part of that as well. In
four years after Donald Trump serves, if he wins, all right,

(31:17):
those are the high moments I would throw in all
of the EDAs the everyday Americans. Those were powerful, more
powerful that I thought than any other speaker on the night.
And Amber Rose brilliant to have somebody with young appeal,
talk to young people about how she believed the simple
narratives donald Trump is evil, donald Trump is that. Mentioned
it to her father, and then her father challenged her

(31:39):
on it. She did research, and then she changed her
mind and then explains to the American people why she
supports Donald Trump. It sounded like this.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
My message tonight comes from a humble place.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
The left told me to hate Trump and even.

Speaker 6 (31:54):
Worse, to hate the other side, the people who support him.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
When you cut through the lies, you realize the truth.

Speaker 6 (32:00):
American families were better when Donald Trump was president.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
This is messaging for young people, for swing voters in
swing states. I think it's brilliant. I think it's folded
into jd Vance's story. I was wrong in twenty sixteen.
He was a great president. That's why I'm here. It
says a lot about Donald Trump that somebody the ones
called him hitler, is now on the ticket with him.
This is messaging that can fit with hope and unity.

(32:26):
I think it's brilliant stuff.

Speaker 5 (32:28):
Yeah, as to Amber Rose, but it can't be a
one shot deal, right. You have to make this a
consistent part of the campaign because the people you're trying
to reach were tuned in last night, you know, they
were watching the home run derby. So you've got to
do well, you know, So you've got to do more
of this in more targeted ways where you can reach

(32:49):
that demographic. But I agree with you, it's a smart
way to try to expand the base.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
And you got Katie Brick, you got Marjorie Taylor Green,
you got Christy No my shot, my puppy, and Charlie
Kirk Kirk already out of the way. Nobody or noticed
him as little as possible any low moments, and he
missed opportunities. Nothing that jumps to mind.

Speaker 5 (33:07):
I mean, it was such an extraordinary day again to
start with the legal ruling out of mar A Lago
and to move on.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
I mean, that's a pretty head spinning day, all right.

Speaker 5 (33:16):
So the one sad thing no presence of Malania Trump, which.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Is you know, you hope the best for them both. Well,
I think she'll be there Thursday, and I think her
message after the assassination attempt shows that she's standing by
her husband. But I don't know that was the whole
way they orchestrated him in dvance making their appearance. I
would have personally, I would have not shown him in
the concourse before I would have had Lee Green would

(33:42):
sing the entire song and then out of nowhere have
him walk out with JD. Vance. They kind of intermingled it,
and then they intermingled it with a family moment. You know,
the biggest question mark is Tucker Carlson. What was he
doing in the family section. Does that mean Trump Media
is eventually going to do a news network. Is he's
still sitting out there a free agent? Is there a
place for him in the cabinet? Probably the most personal

(34:03):
emotional moment was having all of his children representing Florida
and putting them over the top of the nomination. That
was a great moment as well. What do we have
to look forward to tonight? Anything in ten seconds? Not
too much. Nikki Haley and Laura Trump.

Speaker 5 (34:17):
So you'll get those two women as the theme of
the evening is make America Safe again, focusing on the
southern border and the fentanyl crisis.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
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