July 23, 2024 • 34 mins
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This is your Morning Show with Michael O'Dell JOHNO.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Thank you, Mike McCann.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Six minutes after the hour, thanks for waking up with
your morning show. I am Michael del Jorno on the
air and streaming live on your iHeartRadio app if you're
just waking up. Well, we said from the very beginning,
was it poor advance planning? Was it lack of personnel?
Or was it something worse? After six hours of testimony
before the House Oversight Committee, and after listening to the
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non transparency and evasive answers of Director Kimberly cheedl, I'm
beginning to think it's worse. Listen, AOC hit it right
on the head. Had that shot worked, we might have
had chaos, civil unrest, or worst civil war, and that
threat still remains if something should happen to Trump or
Kamala moving forward, or any other candidate. Is this failure
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and unresolved failure of secret Service a clear and present
national security crisis? We ask Lieutenant Colonel James Carafano this morning.
Good morning, James, good to talk to you.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Well, you know, we have we have two failures. Now,
we have the failure to protect a presidential candidate, which
it's indisputely a complete and under failure. I mean literally
the guy came almost had his head blown off. And
then we have the failure of accountability, which is I mean,
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what was that yesterday? I mean who walks days after
an assassination, I mean, you know, and walked into a
congressional hearing with no explanation, no transparency, knows nothing, It's
just it's beyond rational.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
If they thought that they were going to get a
free ride from the Democrats, they thought wrong.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
If they thought we'd all.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Be focused on Biden dropping out of the race and
Kamala beginning her campaign, they thought wrong. If they thought
social media would focus on that and not this hearing,
they were wrong. Everybody watched Democrats and Republicans, be Americans,
everybody watched in horror because I got news for you.
I'll say the unthinkable right out loud. This is beyond
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bad advance planning. This is beyond bad judgment. This is
beyond lack of personnel. I mean, every attempt was made
to make sure Donald Trump didn't leave alive. I think
a lot of people are horrified at what this is
looking like.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Well, this is Harris is already first failed test of leadership.
So as the presumptive presidential candidate and as the vice president,
she should have turned to Biden and said, this woman
has to go today. We have to clear the decks.
And the other thing is is you're for president. You
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don't want to be guarded by a secret service like that.
But so failing to throw this person overboard on really
a first day of national leadership was her first failure.
And then not meeting with Natan Yahoo, not presiding over
the congressional I mean that's a double failure. I mean,
so she's she's literally got two strikes, and she hasn't
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been the presumption. She's she hasn't been the presumptive candidate
for forty eight hours. Yet again not political I'm not
a Republicans, not Democrats, you know. Dog here, I'm just saying,
you know, the objective analysis if if you're if you're gonna,
if you want to show leadership, you have to leave.
And these are just both bonehead errors.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
And the Oversight committee representing the People's House showed that
virtual unanimous American common sensical. I mean, we finally found
something they all agree on. This woman's got to go.
I think new information. I loved the way Representative Pat
Fallon of Texas brought out how she has yet to
visit that site. The shooter visited it two times with
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a drone. She is the Secret Service director nine days
after an assassination attempt and a debacle and a disgrace,
has yet to visit the site. She waited seventy two
hours to talk to the agents that were on hand.
The whole Slope Group thing was dismantled. Lee Harvey Oswald
said he was a patsy. This woman looked like a
patsy yesterday.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Well, you know, it's funny because you remember when you know,
Kelly was Sectory of Homeland Security briefly under Trump, and
which I thought, by the way, he did a great
jobacter a Homeland Security as a postori and sup of staff.
But you know, right after he took over, you know,
somebody jumped the fence at the White House, and the
next morning Kelly and the Secret Service Director together walked
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the entire ground right to understand what happened here and
why did this fail? And that was not a presidential
assassination to them, that was just a yahoo jumping. The
fencer never got close to the president.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
All right, the lack of personnel came out, the DEI
focus came out. But what struck you? I played three.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
I mean, I think the number one thing is the
lack of personnel on site and the lack of an
of a of planning right to cover the roof, to
share you know, probably the single greatest failure, which is
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completely inexcusable, is you know, you've got a thread on site.
Why would you put a president on stage? That just
makes no sense whatsoever. And and let's not forget this
is not about oh my god, well, you know people,
a guy died and two guys went up in the hospital.
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They got a guy killed out of incompetence. I mean,
somebody should This is almost borders on criminal behavior. Criminal endangerment.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
So let me ask you this, Could any director be
this bad? Could any regional director be this bad? Can
any site team.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Be this bad?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I mean, is this really indicative of the failures from
leadership at the Secret Service?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Or was this something worse?
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Well? You know, you know again, I you know, I
don't you know me. I only speak from the facts
I know and and then make reasonable assumptions on this.
Here's what I will say. If somebody was in the
Army for twenty five years and saw all kinds of
military organizations, good and bad, I don't care how great
an organization is, if they have bad leaders, that organization
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is going to crumble. You know, I saw it in
the military after Vietnam. We saw it happen in the
FBI in or Obama, and we're seeing it happen in the
Secret Service. The reality is, is you put corrupt, incompetent
leaders in charge an organizational effect that this is going
to crumble?
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Now?
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Is there something deeper and more sinister? I don't know.
I haven't seen evidence for that, or you know, I mean,
but but can we can we conclude not just in
this at the NIH, at other organizations, Department of transportation.
We have seen grossly incompetent leaders be put in charge,
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and shockingly, those organizations have dissolved in their in their
effective ability to serve the public. Look at Look at Homeland, sir,
Look at the Border Patrol and and Ice completely incapable
of doing their jobs. Now that was just the rank
and file those organizations. We were exactly the same people
that were there when Trump was there. What changed the
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leadership change? You know, I've said this a million times.
You cannot create a government that is people proof. If
you put stupid people and incompetent people and hyper partisan
people in charge of government and the public good and
expect good outcomes, you're you're just you're just smoking something
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to you know, not a Marlborough.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
To your to your initial point, if you were serious
about Kamala Harris, this is low hanging fruit and a
no brainer right to have her call for her resignation
today and then to indicate you.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
No, no, no, no fire her.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Or for the she would go to the president demanding
that she'd be fired. So, I mean, this whole rise
is looking a little strange, like they wanted to rise
and fall by the convention and get who they really
want or this is crazy that they don't get this
all right. I want to ask you about because I
think I think Representative Fallon did a great job of
showing that she's a poor leader in dere election of duty.
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I think Nancy Mace did a great job of dissecting
how uncooperative she has been.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
But AOC hit the nail right on the head.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
And all of this elusiveness is to buy you sixty
days to give us your findings. In sixty days, Trump
could still be killed, Kamala could be killed, bb NET
and yeah, who could be killed. We could go into
civil unrest or civil war. This is a national security issue.
In sixty days is simply unacceptable.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Do you agree with her?
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Well, look, the protecting national leaders is quintessential to governors.
I mean we've only known this since Abraham Lincoln. But
the instability that is created when you kill a national
leader is this is why we invest and spend all
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this money in protecting them. So you know, it's like
so many things. You know, we have a border patrol
to secure the border, and we spend billions of dollars
and we don't let them do that. So now apparently
we have a secret service to protect critical political leaders,
and they're incapable of doing that. You know, when you
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agree with AOC, you got to know there's really something
strange planet Earth. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
How important is this meeting with Bbnett? Yeaho, he will
now surpass Churchill in the most joint Session of Congress speeches,
as well as how secure is he going to be
while he's here? And then thirdly, they're busting them in
from all over the country, many of them probably well
paid to protest. This is a precursor of what we'll
see in Chicago at the DNC convention. What do you
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make of this week and how important is it?
Speaker 5 (10:58):
Well?
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Look, I mean, look, it's very very simple. Hamas is
our enemy, Israel is our ally, and we have a
US government that can't pick sides. I mean what else
is there to say?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Well, I could say, if you're really serious about Kamala Harris,
why doesn't she meeting with Yahoo?
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Well, this is because this is the problem. They can't
pick sides, and so this is this is And again
I'm not political, but you know, what are you telling
the American people? I'm I want to be your president
and I can't pick sides between allies and enemies. You know,
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they want to draft women. They can't tell you what
a woman is, but they want to draft them. I mean,
this is this is decisive leadership. What can I tell you?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Do you think?
Speaker 5 (11:59):
I mean?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I want everybody to know that I am, as a host,
keenly aware of what's buzzing on social media, and that
is that Joe Biden has now reached the terminal portion
of his dementia. That that would speak to how long
they concealed this. There have been some on on on
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social media suggesting he is dying or will be dead
very very soon. You've been you're a student of history,
You've taught history at West Point, You're a lieutenant colonel
who has served in the military for decades. What do
you make of the moment we're living right now? Because
I think a crazy year isn't even done getting crazy?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Yeah, well, you know, actually we've had lots of crazy
things in our history, and you know this is one
of them. And so there's two things you can do
when anybody can lead when everything's fine, but to lead
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in a period of crisis like FDR waking up one
morning and finding the Japanese at Barn Pearl Harbor, or
you know, waking up in the middle of the tet
offensive or waking up and finding your presence assassinated. That's
when that's when real leadership comes out, you know. It's
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just it's like when if you think back of when
do you most remember and admire your parents, and and
often it's in the steadfast thing. You know, when your
parents were there, I mean they were the adult and
I mean literally the adult in the room when it's
incredibly tough things happened, and and and and and the
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people who really can't leave, they just fall apart. And
so getting on the phone and telling Dolensky to you know,
get on a flight out of Ukraine, that's an example
of that moment failure at a critical moment, and Dolinsky
saying no, I'm going to stay here and fight. That's
an example of real leadership. And and and this and
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I'll just end on this because as I said this before,
so people are probably telling you hear it, there's a
difference between characteristics and character. Characteristics are I'm black, I
have orange hair, I'm nice Uncle Joe, right. Character is
what's beneath that layer the underlying willingness to serve and
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the strength of character. You know, a lot of people
didn't like MacArthur because he was vain and you know,
and and and pompus. But underneath there there was a
leader of character who led people in more a critical moments.
And if you want because you are when in politics,
you know, unlike the military, you get to pick your leader.
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If you want a leader of character, you have to
have the self discipline to look below the things like
I like their uniforms, you know, I like you.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Know, we had it, neighbor.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
We had it in Abraham Lincoln for such a time
as that, We had it in FDR for such a
time as that we had it and John F. Kennedy
for such a time as the Cuban missile crisis. And
we had it in George W. Bush for such a
time as nine to eleven, for whatever's coming ahead.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Do we have it in Kamala Harris?
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Oh my hope, a different example. Right. So FDR was made,
you know, was born in steel. You know, nobody elected
him to fight World War Two. Nobody elected Lincoln to
fight the Civil War. Nobody elected John Kennedy to lead
through the Cuban missile crisis. They proved that they were
leaders in a time of crisis. But let me give
you a contrasting and two contrasting examples. Well, our Reagan
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and Dwight Eisenhower. Those were people that got elected because
there were men leaders of character to fix a problem.
And I think this is the moment in this election,
you get to pick. We have two leaders with very
different visions for the country, which I think is fabulous.
That's exciting because you get real choices and both are
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going to tell you we're going to fix the country America.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
I have I have a heart I have a heartbreak.
I have a heartbreak.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I can't believe I'm interrupting a lieutenant colonel who I
love and I only get to talk to once a week.
But if I don't say good bye to you right now,
we won't even be back by the end of the break.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
We'll talk more about this. We'll talk more about this
next week. The American people have a very clear choice.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Hopefully they can make the obvious right choice.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
This is your morning show with Michael del Chono.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
If you're just waking up.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Top lawmakers are calling on the Secret Service to Director
Kimberly Cheetle to resign. That's Democrats and Republicans alike. Still
no word from Biden or Harris. The rise of Kamala Harris.
That's awful, meteoric and fast, going to be too fast.
We'll talk to White House Correspondent John Decker about that,
and also Roy O'Neil with the latest on the congressional
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testimony that took place in the House Oversight Committee yesterday
with the Secret Service Director. And then finally, we're very,
very aware of all of the rumors that Joe Biden
is dying, maybe in a terminal state of his dementia
or whatever. We're not being told he's been diagnosed with.
We're aware of those social media rumors and we'll trust.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Those when we come back. Hey, it's me Michael.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
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Enjoy the podcast. This is your morning show.
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I am Michael del Journal on the air and streaming
live on your iHeart app. Speaking of things that we're
aware of in Nashville, there's been a lot of trouble
being on and off the air.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
We're aware of it, people are working on it.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Also, the Internet and social media is a buzz with
the rumors and or unconfirmed reports that Joe Biden is
near death. We're aware of that. We don't have anything
really to report that has been confirmed at this point.
Could that, for example, explain the rush to coronate Kamala
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Harris before such a time of uncertainty.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
We'll see.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
At this point there is nothing to with credibility confirm,
but we are aware and we're We're getting a ton
of talkbacks. I could do a whole segment with just talkbacks,
and then unfortunately we have a lot of things scheduled,
so we'll try to get a couple of them in
before the end of the show, and then Roy O'Neil
will talk about the disastrous interrogation that took place in
the House Oversight Committee. We finally found something Republicans and
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Democrats can agree on, and that is Kimberly Cheatle needs
to go and the lack of leadership at Secret services
are clear and present. National security issue. John Decker is
our White House correspondent. He's joining us with the latest
on Kamala Harris's presidential campaign. And for those that were
curious if the President was even aware that he had
stepped out of the race or if he was alive,
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we heard him by phone.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Anyway, yesterday we've still not seen and heard him both.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
We will see him today. He's coming back from a
Delaware today to the White House. Tomorrow, he's got a
meeting at the White House with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin
net Yahova. Yesterday, you're right, calling into what was formerly
known as the Biden Harris campaign, now it's the Harris campaign.
She's inherited all of the campaign apparatus in Wilmington, Delaware,
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and she was paying her first a visit to the
people who will be instrumental in this run for the
White House. And as you point out, a President Biden
calling in from his home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware to
the campaign and showing his support once again to Kamala Harris,
his vice president, who is now the likely Democratic presidential nominee.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
This time yesterday we talked about how they would transfer
the money. There was some ninety six million dollars on
hand at the end of June. Now Kamala herself has
raised eighty one million dollars since announcing access to the
money previously raised. Talked about the FEC being kind off feckless.
The chairman, Sean Cooksy was on with Laura Ingram on
Fox and basically admitted there's not much we can do
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other than find them later, but that they have yet
to even get FEC inform them or try to get
their approval. So what he's encouraging is are their interest
file lawsuits. So it'll be interesting to see. But with
eighty one million dollars, she's got plenty of money to
get started. What do you make of this meteorc rise?
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Yeah, tremendous head start. Eighty one million dollars in twenty
four hours. That sets a new one day record. And
you know, it's clearly a sign that Democrats steel re
energized now that Joe Biden is not their standard bearer.
Now they have Kamala Harris gives them they believe a
fighting chance to beat Donald Trump in November. Still unknown
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as who will be Kamala Harris's running mate. That will
be an important decision. It's her first important decision now
that she is the likely Democratic presidential nominee, she will
likely look to choose someone who can help her get
to two hundred and seventy Electoral College votes, and that
means someone who can potentially deliver a battleground state that
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each side will be fighting over between now and November
the fifth, John.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
I'm gonna do it now so I don't have to
do it awkwardly later. How many minutes do we have together?
Speaker 5 (21:21):
We have as many minutes as you want. Oh, really,
all the time that you want.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Well, we'll be opening up the phones and talking tennis.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
No.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
So, by the way, John Decker is not only the
white host correspondent, he is also a bar attorney. One
day after Joe Biden drops out of the race, here's
the quick Quinnipiac University poll and it shows Donald Trump leading.
Now this is overall, and as you just mentioned, swing
states are going to decide this, but overall, Donald Trump
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leads forty nine to forty seven percent over Harris. Now
that's without third party candidates involved, looking at party lines,
and this is what I think the point you were making,
or so the appearances Republicans ninety three percent behind Trump independence.
This will be the challenge for Kamala Harris. It was
going to be the challenge for Joe Biden. Fifty five
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percent support Trump, forty one percent support Kamala Harris. And
by the way, disenfranchised Democrats might give RFK Junior a
big bump.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Does it look early on and it is early on
that there's much there.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Ninety seven percent of Democrats in this poll support Kamala Harris.
So if nothing else in Kamala Harris and getting Joe
out of the way, it seems to be a solution.
Early she hasn't performed yet, but early for Democrats, certainly
for most of the grasstops and the money donors and bundlers,
she's raised over eighty million dollars. That much has rolled
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out well. Now add in third party in the lead
is much bigger going to swing states, and that's where
we would start talking about running mates, and that's where
we start talking about, well, would with somebody like Josh
Shapiro from Pennsylvania tidy things up. Gretchen Whitmer would be
difficult because that'd be two women, but she's got a
key choice. If she's it and This isn't some big
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rise to create an early fall. If she's it, her
VP choice is going to become very very important.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Well it is, you know, it's his first choice. You know,
we get to see, you know now that Kamala Harris
is her own person. She's not in the shadow of
Joe Biden anymore. And this is her first big decision
that she will be making that will send a clear
message to the country about the way she will govern
and the types of policies that she will pursue. If
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she chooses someone who is considered to be a favorite
of progressives, that sends a certain message. If she chooses
someone who works alongside Republicans on various issues, that will
send a certain message, you know. And also you always
have to factor in choosing a running mate who are
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you comfortable with? So if you win, who can you
govern with? All of those factors come into play when
you choose a running mate.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
There's also the key issues that she seems to you
would call them strengths. One would be abortion and she's
out and out early with that, women's rights, in climate
change of course, you know, heading into this shift in
politics or people, those aren't at the top of the
list of what voters are concerned about. So that'll be
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a challenge. And then I guess what, either lay low
or don't make any big mistakes between now in convention
and at least she got a shot at putting on
a show anyway.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
Well, that's right, you know, And I think that the
Vice president, she is very skillful in terms of controlled settings.
And what I mean by that is she is really
adept at reading from a teleprompter. She did that yesterday
when she addressed that campaign staff in Delaware. She's as
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good as anybody. The trick for her, though, how do
you fare in interviews? How do you fare when it's
a debate if there is a debate. We don't know
if there's going to be a debate between or off
tellentprompter Kamala Harris. I would hope that there would be one,
but you know, that will be another test for her
going forward.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Did you get to watch much of the testimony yesterday
because Lee Harvey Oswald said I was a patsy. We
never got to figure out what he meant by that
this woman was just awful or a patsy one or
the other. But whether it was patsy or failure. It's
the one thing even AOC gets. It's unacceptable, and it's
unacceptable moving forward, and it needs to be resolved quickly.
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Is Kamala Harris missing an opportunity to make a first
really obvious low hanging fruit decision.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Yeah, that is an obvious low hanging fruit decision. And
in fact, within the past hour, the two leaders in
the House, Keen Jeffries and Speaker Johnson, they announced a
joint commission to examine all of what went wrong on
July the thirteenth in western Pennsylvania. So you see some
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bipartisanship on this issue. Certainly the Vice president could weigh
in on this as well. And as it relates to
the current Secret Service Director, I think her days are number.
You know, you had the two leading lawmakers on the
House Oversight Committee jointly say she needs to go. They
are calling for her resignation. President Biden ought to step in,
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after all, the Secret Service Director serves at the pleasure
of the President and clearly and he appointed her of
pretty much every member of Congress.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
And he appointed her, he should be the one to
fire her.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
But I mean, if I'm managing Kamala Harris, I would
I would make a public statement that she plans to
visit with the president upon return. This woman needs to
if she's not going to issue her resignation, needs to
be fired immediately. I mean, if you're Kamala's score those points,
it's so obvious, right, I agree.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
You would think.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
All right, John Decker, our White House correspondent and attorney,
thanks for joining us. Appreciate it very much and for
staying longer. All right, if you're just waking up from
the top stories of the day, Well, Kamala Harris has
raised a lot of money, that's for sure, eighty one
million dollars in twenty four hours.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Brian Shook reports.
Speaker 6 (27:18):
That amount includes money raised across the campaign, the Democratic
National Committee, and joint fundraising committees. The Harris campaign noted
that more than eight hundred eighty eight thousand grassroots donors
donated over that period, with sixty percent making their first
contribution of the twenty twenty four campaign cycle. I'm Brian Shook.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
You know the NFL is gonna have pregame preseason games
starting relatively shortly. I think for protesters, paid, organized and
busted in this is their preseason game for the convention
coming in Chicago. The Prime Minister bb net Yah who
is coming to DC, and the protesters are ready. Mark
Mayfield reports the.
Speaker 7 (27:58):
Groups are organizing bus trips cities like Boston, New York, Atlanta, Chicago,
and Philadelphia in a bid to surround the US Capitol Building.
Protesters are being told to wear red to symbolize a
red line against genocide. Net Ya, who is set to
address a joint session of Congress on Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
I'm Mark Meefield, so social media as a buzz.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yes, Joe Biden had a medical emergency that took him
off the campaign trail and took him out of the race.
But it wasn't COVID that he's terminal final stages of
his dementia battle. No idea if that's true or if
they will ever admit it.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
But for those that.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Thought he might be already dead or not aware that
he dropped out of the race, he did pop up
on the phone at a Kamala Harris event yesterday.
Speaker 7 (28:41):
I know yesterday's news was surprising and I'm so har
art for you to.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Hear, but it was the right thing to do, and
he gave his full faith endorsement to Kamala Harris so.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
I'm hoping you'll give every bit of your heart and
soul that you gave to me to Kama.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Meanwhile, if you're not fit to ron, you're not fit
to serve. Brian Shuok's back with our Road to the
White House.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
Road to the White House twenty twenty four. House Republicans
are calling on President Biden to resign now. Congressman Tony
Gonzalez says, if he cannot run for office, then he
cannot run the country effectively.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
We don't swear in a new president until January. That's
six months from now. You know who's taking care of
the country now.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
The Texas border lawmaker says the nation is facing many threats, and.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Top lawmakers all grilled the Secret Service director yesterday.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Lisa Taylor has there.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
A conclusion and by partisan unanimous decision.
Speaker 8 (29:43):
Kentucky Republican James Comer and Maryland Democrat Jamie Raskin released
a rare joint letter calling on Director Kimberly Cheatle to
resign for failing to protect Donald Trump from an assassination
attempt that ultimately killed one rally goer and injured at
least two others. The lawmaker said Cheatle failed to provide
answers to base questions today that led to the shooting.
During a congressional hearing, congress members on both sides of
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the aisles took turns grilling Cheetle over the security lapses.
Finally see Taylor.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
Hey, everybody's John Port Coley of England, Dan and John
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with Mint Cordell drawn.
Speaker 9 (30:20):
So the idea that a report will be finalized in
sixty days, let alone prior to any actionable decisions that
would be made, is simply not.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Acceptable when AOC gets it. You know, it's obvious representative fallon.
Speaker 8 (30:38):
Just telling as it is chilling.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
We have satellite images from the Butler Fairgrounds. Have you
visited the site?
Speaker 5 (30:46):
No? I have not.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Nine days and you have not visited the site. I mean,
it just got worse and worse and worse. Of questions,
was this a colossal failure?
Speaker 5 (30:55):
Yes or no?
Speaker 4 (30:56):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Was this tragedy preventable?
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Yes or no?
Speaker 7 (31:02):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (31:02):
All right?
Speaker 1 (31:03):
So Roy O'Neil always gets the final story with Rory.
Could it have gone any worse for Kimberly Cheetle yesterday?
Speaker 10 (31:11):
Yeah? I just can't see how she's in the job
too much longer. Maybe there'll be an announcement when Joe
Biden gets back to the White House today after his
COVID break. But yeah, it was disastrous, and again bipartisan
calls now for her to be fired or resigned.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Yeah, it's just at the clock is ticking, missed opportunity
for Kamala Harris not to say, well, this is a disaster,
because I can tell you if if Joe Biden dropping
out of the race and Kamala having her first big
campaign stop and then him on the phone was to
distract us, it didn't. All the networks were on it,
all social media was on it. Everybody was watching. Democrats
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and Republicans alike were horrified by the lack of transparency,
lack of answers, and the obvious failures.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
I mean this, I would suspect this will be addressed today.
Speaker 10 (32:02):
You I would think so after what happened yesterday, and
you know, try to rip the band aid off. It's
just it's a very busy time with the Secret Service though.
They've just added two new protectees last week, adding one more.
When Harris makes her announcement, They've got net and Yahoo
was in town this week planning for the DNC in
a couple of weeks in Chicago, they got a full
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play right now.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Yeah, and I have to take my hat off to Democrats.
They did not.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
I mean there were a couple that did anti gun grandstanding,
but by and large, Democrats and Republicans together were horrified
by this testimony and unanimous, in nearly unanimous, in calling
for her resignation. All right, so we start this whole
thing off, and this would be a high point for
Kamala Harris because a Joe's gone, there's eighty one million dollars,
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there's everybody in the Democrat Party support behind her.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
But she still trails by two.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Well, I assume George Coloney is happy, but she still
trails by two.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (32:58):
He just put out a press release saying he's endorsing COMA.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
So he's endorsing. Well, that makes all the difference.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
In the world.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Right, Well, if you put RFK in there, the lead
is more like four or five, and then there's a
whole month to go.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Is she rising too fast?
Speaker 10 (33:14):
I don't think so. I think it's all gonna you know,
meet her out. I think I think things will start
to level off. We'll get into a campaign routine soon enough.
But yeah, I don't they're too fast. I don't think so.
But you know, we are going to get another spike
when she names that running mate, and the calculus in
that is going to be interesting.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Yeah, because somebody's got a dress Michigan and one can't
really imagine they'll go with two women. Somebody's got to
then address Pennsylvania and there you got Josh Shapiro and
that could make sense.
Speaker 10 (33:51):
Do you bring in military and this is where you
know Arizona and that can come in and get marked
in there and planking on his last name, Kelly Kelly. Yeah,
so there are a lot of different calculations. The governor
of Kentucky bipartisan, but it's Kentucky, so that doesn't get
you anything. Yeah, there's a lot going on.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
There is a crazy year.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
They can only get What do you make of all
the rumors on social media that Joe Biden is dying?
Speaker 3 (34:17):
I mean, other than no, it's just whatever.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
I would I would think he's got six months left
in him.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
All right, he's a big deal. He's Rory O'Neil.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
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Speaker 1 (00:32):
Six minutes after the hour, thanks for waking up with
your morning show. I am Michael del Jorno on the
air and streaming live on your iHeartRadio app if you're
just waking up. Well, we said from the very beginning,
was it poor advance planning? Was it lack of personnel?
Or was it something worse? After six hours of testimony
before the House Oversight Committee, and after listening to the
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non transparency and evasive answers of Director Kimberly cheedl, I'm
beginning to think it's worse. Listen, AOC hit it right
on the head. Had that shot worked, we might have
had chaos, civil unrest, or worst civil war, and that
threat still remains if something should happen to Trump or
Kamala moving forward, or any other candidate. Is this failure
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and unresolved failure of secret Service a clear and present
national security crisis? We ask Lieutenant Colonel James Carafano this morning.
Good morning, James, good to talk to you.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Well, you know, we have we have two failures. Now,
we have the failure to protect a presidential candidate, which
it's indisputely a complete and under failure. I mean literally
the guy came almost had his head blown off. And
then we have the failure of accountability, which is I mean,
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what was that yesterday? I mean who walks days after
an assassination, I mean, you know, and walked into a
congressional hearing with no explanation, no transparency, knows nothing, It's
just it's beyond rational.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
If they thought that they were going to get a
free ride from the Democrats, they thought wrong.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
If they thought we'd all.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Be focused on Biden dropping out of the race and
Kamala beginning her campaign, they thought wrong. If they thought
social media would focus on that and not this hearing,
they were wrong. Everybody watched Democrats and Republicans, be Americans,
everybody watched in horror because I got news for you.
I'll say the unthinkable right out loud. This is beyond
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bad advance planning. This is beyond bad judgment. This is
beyond lack of personnel. I mean, every attempt was made
to make sure Donald Trump didn't leave alive. I think
a lot of people are horrified at what this is
looking like.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Well, this is Harris is already first failed test of leadership.
So as the presumptive presidential candidate and as the vice president,
she should have turned to Biden and said, this woman
has to go today. We have to clear the decks.
And the other thing is is you're for president. You
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don't want to be guarded by a secret service like that.
But so failing to throw this person overboard on really
a first day of national leadership was her first failure.
And then not meeting with Natan Yahoo, not presiding over
the congressional I mean that's a double failure. I mean,
so she's she's literally got two strikes, and she hasn't
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been the presumption. She's she hasn't been the presumptive candidate
for forty eight hours. Yet again not political I'm not
a Republicans, not Democrats, you know. Dog here, I'm just saying,
you know, the objective analysis if if you're if you're gonna,
if you want to show leadership, you have to leave.
And these are just both bonehead errors.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
And the Oversight committee representing the People's House showed that
virtual unanimous American common sensical. I mean, we finally found
something they all agree on. This woman's got to go.
I think new information. I loved the way Representative Pat
Fallon of Texas brought out how she has yet to
visit that site. The shooter visited it two times with
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a drone. She is the Secret Service director nine days
after an assassination attempt and a debacle and a disgrace,
has yet to visit the site. She waited seventy two
hours to talk to the agents that were on hand.
The whole Slope Group thing was dismantled. Lee Harvey Oswald
said he was a patsy. This woman looked like a
patsy yesterday.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Well, you know, it's funny because you remember when you know,
Kelly was Sectory of Homeland Security briefly under Trump, and
which I thought, by the way, he did a great
jobacter a Homeland Security as a postori and sup of staff.
But you know, right after he took over, you know,
somebody jumped the fence at the White House, and the
next morning Kelly and the Secret Service Director together walked
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the entire ground right to understand what happened here and
why did this fail? And that was not a presidential
assassination to them, that was just a yahoo jumping. The
fencer never got close to the president.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
All right, the lack of personnel came out, the DEI
focus came out. But what struck you? I played three.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
I mean, I think the number one thing is the
lack of personnel on site and the lack of an
of a of planning right to cover the roof, to
share you know, probably the single greatest failure, which is
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completely inexcusable, is you know, you've got a thread on site.
Why would you put a president on stage? That just
makes no sense whatsoever. And and let's not forget this
is not about oh my god, well, you know people,
a guy died and two guys went up in the hospital.
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They got a guy killed out of incompetence. I mean,
somebody should This is almost borders on criminal behavior. Criminal endangerment.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
So let me ask you this, Could any director be
this bad? Could any regional director be this bad? Can
any site team.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Be this bad?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I mean, is this really indicative of the failures from
leadership at the Secret Service?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Or was this something worse?
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Well? You know, you know again, I you know, I
don't you know me. I only speak from the facts
I know and and then make reasonable assumptions on this.
Here's what I will say. If somebody was in the
Army for twenty five years and saw all kinds of
military organizations, good and bad, I don't care how great
an organization is, if they have bad leaders, that organization
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is going to crumble. You know, I saw it in
the military after Vietnam. We saw it happen in the
FBI in or Obama, and we're seeing it happen in the
Secret Service. The reality is, is you put corrupt, incompetent
leaders in charge an organizational effect that this is going
to crumble?
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Now?
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Is there something deeper and more sinister? I don't know.
I haven't seen evidence for that, or you know, I mean,
but but can we can we conclude not just in
this at the NIH, at other organizations, Department of transportation.
We have seen grossly incompetent leaders be put in charge,
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and shockingly, those organizations have dissolved in their in their
effective ability to serve the public. Look at Look at Homeland, sir,
Look at the Border Patrol and and Ice completely incapable
of doing their jobs. Now that was just the rank
and file those organizations. We were exactly the same people
that were there when Trump was there. What changed the
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leadership change? You know, I've said this a million times.
You cannot create a government that is people proof. If
you put stupid people and incompetent people and hyper partisan
people in charge of government and the public good and
expect good outcomes, you're you're just you're just smoking something
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to you know, not a Marlborough.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
To your to your initial point, if you were serious
about Kamala Harris, this is low hanging fruit and a
no brainer right to have her call for her resignation
today and then to indicate you.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
No, no, no, no fire her.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Or for the she would go to the president demanding
that she'd be fired. So, I mean, this whole rise
is looking a little strange, like they wanted to rise
and fall by the convention and get who they really
want or this is crazy that they don't get this
all right. I want to ask you about because I
think I think Representative Fallon did a great job of
showing that she's a poor leader in dere election of duty.
(09:19):
I think Nancy Mace did a great job of dissecting
how uncooperative she has been.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
But AOC hit the nail right on the head.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
And all of this elusiveness is to buy you sixty
days to give us your findings. In sixty days, Trump
could still be killed, Kamala could be killed, bb NET
and yeah, who could be killed. We could go into
civil unrest or civil war. This is a national security issue.
In sixty days is simply unacceptable.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Do you agree with her?
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Well, look, the protecting national leaders is quintessential to governors.
I mean we've only known this since Abraham Lincoln. But
the instability that is created when you kill a national
leader is this is why we invest and spend all
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this money in protecting them. So you know, it's like
so many things. You know, we have a border patrol
to secure the border, and we spend billions of dollars
and we don't let them do that. So now apparently
we have a secret service to protect critical political leaders,
and they're incapable of doing that. You know, when you
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agree with AOC, you got to know there's really something
strange planet Earth. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
How important is this meeting with Bbnett? Yeaho, he will
now surpass Churchill in the most joint Session of Congress speeches,
as well as how secure is he going to be
while he's here? And then thirdly, they're busting them in
from all over the country, many of them probably well
paid to protest. This is a precursor of what we'll
see in Chicago at the DNC convention. What do you
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make of this week and how important is it?
Speaker 5 (10:58):
Well?
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Look, I mean, look, it's very very simple. Hamas is
our enemy, Israel is our ally, and we have a
US government that can't pick sides. I mean what else
is there to say?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Well, I could say, if you're really serious about Kamala Harris,
why doesn't she meeting with Yahoo?
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Well, this is because this is the problem. They can't
pick sides, and so this is this is And again
I'm not political, but you know, what are you telling
the American people? I'm I want to be your president
and I can't pick sides between allies and enemies. You know,
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they want to draft women. They can't tell you what
a woman is, but they want to draft them. I mean,
this is this is decisive leadership. What can I tell you?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Do you think?
Speaker 5 (11:59):
I mean?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I want everybody to know that I am, as a host,
keenly aware of what's buzzing on social media, and that
is that Joe Biden has now reached the terminal portion
of his dementia. That that would speak to how long
they concealed this. There have been some on on on
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social media suggesting he is dying or will be dead
very very soon. You've been you're a student of history,
You've taught history at West Point, You're a lieutenant colonel
who has served in the military for decades. What do
you make of the moment we're living right now? Because
I think a crazy year isn't even done getting crazy?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Yeah, well, you know, actually we've had lots of crazy
things in our history, and you know this is one
of them. And so there's two things you can do
when anybody can lead when everything's fine, but to lead
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in a period of crisis like FDR waking up one
morning and finding the Japanese at Barn Pearl Harbor, or
you know, waking up in the middle of the tet
offensive or waking up and finding your presence assassinated. That's
when that's when real leadership comes out, you know. It's
(13:23):
just it's like when if you think back of when
do you most remember and admire your parents, and and
often it's in the steadfast thing. You know, when your
parents were there, I mean they were the adult and
I mean literally the adult in the room when it's
incredibly tough things happened, and and and and and the
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people who really can't leave, they just fall apart. And
so getting on the phone and telling Dolensky to you know,
get on a flight out of Ukraine, that's an example
of that moment failure at a critical moment, and Dolinsky
saying no, I'm going to stay here and fight. That's
an example of real leadership. And and and this and
(14:07):
I'll just end on this because as I said this before,
so people are probably telling you hear it, there's a
difference between characteristics and character. Characteristics are I'm black, I
have orange hair, I'm nice Uncle Joe, right. Character is
what's beneath that layer the underlying willingness to serve and
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the strength of character. You know, a lot of people
didn't like MacArthur because he was vain and you know,
and and and pompus. But underneath there there was a
leader of character who led people in more a critical moments.
And if you want because you are when in politics,
you know, unlike the military, you get to pick your leader.
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If you want a leader of character, you have to
have the self discipline to look below the things like
I like their uniforms, you know, I like you.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Know, we had it, neighbor.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
We had it in Abraham Lincoln for such a time
as that, We had it in FDR for such a
time as that we had it and John F. Kennedy
for such a time as the Cuban missile crisis. And
we had it in George W. Bush for such a
time as nine to eleven, for whatever's coming ahead.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Do we have it in Kamala Harris?
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Oh my hope, a different example. Right. So FDR was made,
you know, was born in steel. You know, nobody elected
him to fight World War Two. Nobody elected Lincoln to
fight the Civil War. Nobody elected John Kennedy to lead
through the Cuban missile crisis. They proved that they were
leaders in a time of crisis. But let me give
you a contrasting and two contrasting examples. Well, our Reagan
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and Dwight Eisenhower. Those were people that got elected because
there were men leaders of character to fix a problem.
And I think this is the moment in this election,
you get to pick. We have two leaders with very
different visions for the country, which I think is fabulous.
That's exciting because you get real choices and both are
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going to tell you we're going to fix the country America.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
I have I have a heart I have a heartbreak.
I have a heartbreak.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I can't believe I'm interrupting a lieutenant colonel who I
love and I only get to talk to once a week.
But if I don't say good bye to you right now,
we won't even be back by the end of the break.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
We'll talk more about this. We'll talk more about this
next week. The American people have a very clear choice.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Hopefully they can make the obvious right choice.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
This is your morning show with Michael del Chono.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
If you're just waking up.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Top lawmakers are calling on the Secret Service to Director
Kimberly Cheetle to resign. That's Democrats and Republicans alike. Still
no word from Biden or Harris. The rise of Kamala Harris.
That's awful, meteoric and fast, going to be too fast.
We'll talk to White House Correspondent John Decker about that,
and also Roy O'Neil with the latest on the congressional
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testimony that took place in the House Oversight Committee yesterday
with the Secret Service Director. And then finally, we're very,
very aware of all of the rumors that Joe Biden
is dying, maybe in a terminal state of his dementia
or whatever. We're not being told he's been diagnosed with.
We're aware of those social media rumors and we'll trust.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Those when we come back. Hey, it's me Michael.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
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Enjoy the podcast. This is your morning show.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I am Michael del Journal on the air and streaming
live on your iHeart app. Speaking of things that we're
aware of in Nashville, there's been a lot of trouble
being on and off the air.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
We're aware of it, people are working on it.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Also, the Internet and social media is a buzz with
the rumors and or unconfirmed reports that Joe Biden is
near death. We're aware of that. We don't have anything
really to report that has been confirmed at this point.
Could that, for example, explain the rush to coronate Kamala
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Harris before such a time of uncertainty.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
We'll see.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
At this point there is nothing to with credibility confirm,
but we are aware and we're We're getting a ton
of talkbacks. I could do a whole segment with just talkbacks,
and then unfortunately we have a lot of things scheduled,
so we'll try to get a couple of them in
before the end of the show, and then Roy O'Neil
will talk about the disastrous interrogation that took place in
the House Oversight Committee. We finally found something Republicans and
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Democrats can agree on, and that is Kimberly Cheatle needs
to go and the lack of leadership at Secret services
are clear and present. National security issue. John Decker is
our White House correspondent. He's joining us with the latest
on Kamala Harris's presidential campaign. And for those that were
curious if the President was even aware that he had
stepped out of the race or if he was alive,
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we heard him by phone.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Anyway, yesterday we've still not seen and heard him both.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
We will see him today. He's coming back from a
Delaware today to the White House. Tomorrow, he's got a
meeting at the White House with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin
net Yahova. Yesterday, you're right, calling into what was formerly
known as the Biden Harris campaign, now it's the Harris campaign.
She's inherited all of the campaign apparatus in Wilmington, Delaware,
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and she was paying her first a visit to the
people who will be instrumental in this run for the
White House. And as you point out, a President Biden
calling in from his home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware to
the campaign and showing his support once again to Kamala Harris,
his vice president, who is now the likely Democratic presidential nominee.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
This time yesterday we talked about how they would transfer
the money. There was some ninety six million dollars on
hand at the end of June. Now Kamala herself has
raised eighty one million dollars since announcing access to the
money previously raised. Talked about the FEC being kind off feckless.
The chairman, Sean Cooksy was on with Laura Ingram on
Fox and basically admitted there's not much we can do
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other than find them later, but that they have yet
to even get FEC inform them or try to get
their approval. So what he's encouraging is are their interest
file lawsuits. So it'll be interesting to see. But with
eighty one million dollars, she's got plenty of money to
get started. What do you make of this meteorc rise?
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Yeah, tremendous head start. Eighty one million dollars in twenty
four hours. That sets a new one day record. And
you know, it's clearly a sign that Democrats steel re
energized now that Joe Biden is not their standard bearer.
Now they have Kamala Harris gives them they believe a
fighting chance to beat Donald Trump in November. Still unknown
(20:49):
as who will be Kamala Harris's running mate. That will
be an important decision. It's her first important decision now
that she is the likely Democratic presidential nominee, she will
likely look to choose someone who can help her get
to two hundred and seventy Electoral College votes, and that
means someone who can potentially deliver a battleground state that
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each side will be fighting over between now and November
the fifth, John.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
I'm gonna do it now so I don't have to
do it awkwardly later. How many minutes do we have together?
Speaker 5 (21:21):
We have as many minutes as you want. Oh, really,
all the time that you want.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Well, we'll be opening up the phones and talking tennis.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
No.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
So, by the way, John Decker is not only the
white host correspondent, he is also a bar attorney. One
day after Joe Biden drops out of the race, here's
the quick Quinnipiac University poll and it shows Donald Trump leading.
Now this is overall, and as you just mentioned, swing
states are going to decide this, but overall, Donald Trump
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leads forty nine to forty seven percent over Harris. Now
that's without third party candidates involved, looking at party lines,
and this is what I think the point you were making,
or so the appearances Republicans ninety three percent behind Trump independence.
This will be the challenge for Kamala Harris. It was
going to be the challenge for Joe Biden. Fifty five
(22:10):
percent support Trump, forty one percent support Kamala Harris. And
by the way, disenfranchised Democrats might give RFK Junior a
big bump.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Does it look early on and it is early on
that there's much there.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Ninety seven percent of Democrats in this poll support Kamala Harris.
So if nothing else in Kamala Harris and getting Joe
out of the way, it seems to be a solution.
Early she hasn't performed yet, but early for Democrats, certainly
for most of the grasstops and the money donors and bundlers,
she's raised over eighty million dollars. That much has rolled
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out well. Now add in third party in the lead
is much bigger going to swing states, and that's where
we would start talking about running mates, and that's where
we start talking about, well, would with somebody like Josh
Shapiro from Pennsylvania tidy things up. Gretchen Whitmer would be
difficult because that'd be two women, but she's got a
key choice. If she's it and This isn't some big
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rise to create an early fall. If she's it, her
VP choice is going to become very very important.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Well it is, you know, it's his first choice. You know,
we get to see, you know now that Kamala Harris
is her own person. She's not in the shadow of
Joe Biden anymore. And this is her first big decision
that she will be making that will send a clear
message to the country about the way she will govern
and the types of policies that she will pursue. If
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she chooses someone who is considered to be a favorite
of progressives, that sends a certain message. If she chooses
someone who works alongside Republicans on various issues, that will
send a certain message, you know. And also you always
have to factor in choosing a running mate who are
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you comfortable with? So if you win, who can you
govern with? All of those factors come into play when
you choose a running mate.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
There's also the key issues that she seems to you
would call them strengths. One would be abortion and she's
out and out early with that, women's rights, in climate
change of course, you know, heading into this shift in
politics or people, those aren't at the top of the
list of what voters are concerned about. So that'll be
(24:30):
a challenge. And then I guess what, either lay low
or don't make any big mistakes between now in convention
and at least she got a shot at putting on
a show anyway.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
Well, that's right, you know, And I think that the
Vice president, she is very skillful in terms of controlled settings.
And what I mean by that is she is really
adept at reading from a teleprompter. She did that yesterday
when she addressed that campaign staff in Delaware. She's as
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good as anybody. The trick for her, though, how do
you fare in interviews? How do you fare when it's
a debate if there is a debate. We don't know
if there's going to be a debate between or off
tellentprompter Kamala Harris. I would hope that there would be one,
but you know, that will be another test for her
going forward.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Did you get to watch much of the testimony yesterday
because Lee Harvey Oswald said I was a patsy. We
never got to figure out what he meant by that
this woman was just awful or a patsy one or
the other. But whether it was patsy or failure. It's
the one thing even AOC gets. It's unacceptable, and it's
unacceptable moving forward, and it needs to be resolved quickly.
(25:42):
Is Kamala Harris missing an opportunity to make a first
really obvious low hanging fruit decision.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Yeah, that is an obvious low hanging fruit decision. And
in fact, within the past hour, the two leaders in
the House, Keen Jeffries and Speaker Johnson, they announced a
joint commission to examine all of what went wrong on
July the thirteenth in western Pennsylvania. So you see some
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bipartisanship on this issue. Certainly the Vice president could weigh
in on this as well. And as it relates to
the current Secret Service Director, I think her days are number.
You know, you had the two leading lawmakers on the
House Oversight Committee jointly say she needs to go. They
are calling for her resignation. President Biden ought to step in,
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after all, the Secret Service Director serves at the pleasure
of the President and clearly and he appointed her of
pretty much every member of Congress.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
And he appointed her, he should be the one to
fire her.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
But I mean, if I'm managing Kamala Harris, I would
I would make a public statement that she plans to
visit with the president upon return. This woman needs to
if she's not going to issue her resignation, needs to
be fired immediately. I mean, if you're Kamala's score those points,
it's so obvious, right, I agree.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
You would think.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
All right, John Decker, our White House correspondent and attorney,
thanks for joining us. Appreciate it very much and for
staying longer. All right, if you're just waking up from
the top stories of the day, Well, Kamala Harris has
raised a lot of money, that's for sure, eighty one
million dollars in twenty four hours.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Brian Shook reports.
Speaker 6 (27:18):
That amount includes money raised across the campaign, the Democratic
National Committee, and joint fundraising committees. The Harris campaign noted
that more than eight hundred eighty eight thousand grassroots donors
donated over that period, with sixty percent making their first
contribution of the twenty twenty four campaign cycle. I'm Brian Shook.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
You know the NFL is gonna have pregame preseason games
starting relatively shortly. I think for protesters, paid, organized and
busted in this is their preseason game for the convention
coming in Chicago. The Prime Minister bb net Yah who
is coming to DC, and the protesters are ready. Mark
Mayfield reports the.
Speaker 7 (27:58):
Groups are organizing bus trips cities like Boston, New York, Atlanta, Chicago,
and Philadelphia in a bid to surround the US Capitol Building.
Protesters are being told to wear red to symbolize a
red line against genocide. Net Ya, who is set to
address a joint session of Congress on Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
I'm Mark Meefield, so social media as a buzz.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yes, Joe Biden had a medical emergency that took him
off the campaign trail and took him out of the race.
But it wasn't COVID that he's terminal final stages of
his dementia battle. No idea if that's true or if
they will ever admit it.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
But for those that.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Thought he might be already dead or not aware that
he dropped out of the race, he did pop up
on the phone at a Kamala Harris event yesterday.
Speaker 7 (28:41):
I know yesterday's news was surprising and I'm so har
art for you to.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Hear, but it was the right thing to do, and
he gave his full faith endorsement to Kamala Harris so.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
I'm hoping you'll give every bit of your heart and
soul that you gave to me to Kama.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Meanwhile, if you're not fit to ron, you're not fit
to serve. Brian Shuok's back with our Road to the
White House.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
Road to the White House twenty twenty four. House Republicans
are calling on President Biden to resign now. Congressman Tony
Gonzalez says, if he cannot run for office, then he
cannot run the country effectively.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
We don't swear in a new president until January. That's
six months from now. You know who's taking care of
the country now.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
The Texas border lawmaker says the nation is facing many threats, and.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Top lawmakers all grilled the Secret Service director yesterday.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Lisa Taylor has there.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
A conclusion and by partisan unanimous decision.
Speaker 8 (29:43):
Kentucky Republican James Comer and Maryland Democrat Jamie Raskin released
a rare joint letter calling on Director Kimberly Cheatle to
resign for failing to protect Donald Trump from an assassination
attempt that ultimately killed one rally goer and injured at
least two others. The lawmaker said Cheatle failed to provide
answers to base questions today that led to the shooting.
During a congressional hearing, congress members on both sides of
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the aisles took turns grilling Cheetle over the security lapses.
Finally see Taylor.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
Hey, everybody's John Port Coley of England, Dan and John
Ford Coley and my morning show is your morning show
with Mint Cordell drawn.
Speaker 9 (30:20):
So the idea that a report will be finalized in
sixty days, let alone prior to any actionable decisions that
would be made, is simply not.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Acceptable when AOC gets it. You know, it's obvious representative fallon.
Speaker 8 (30:38):
Just telling as it is chilling.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
We have satellite images from the Butler Fairgrounds. Have you
visited the site?
Speaker 5 (30:46):
No? I have not.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Nine days and you have not visited the site. I mean,
it just got worse and worse and worse. Of questions,
was this a colossal failure?
Speaker 5 (30:55):
Yes or no?
Speaker 4 (30:56):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Was this tragedy preventable?
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Yes or no?
Speaker 7 (31:02):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (31:02):
All right?
Speaker 1 (31:03):
So Roy O'Neil always gets the final story with Rory.
Could it have gone any worse for Kimberly Cheetle yesterday?
Speaker 10 (31:11):
Yeah? I just can't see how she's in the job
too much longer. Maybe there'll be an announcement when Joe
Biden gets back to the White House today after his
COVID break. But yeah, it was disastrous, and again bipartisan
calls now for her to be fired or resigned.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Yeah, it's just at the clock is ticking, missed opportunity
for Kamala Harris not to say, well, this is a disaster,
because I can tell you if if Joe Biden dropping
out of the race and Kamala having her first big
campaign stop and then him on the phone was to
distract us, it didn't. All the networks were on it,
all social media was on it. Everybody was watching. Democrats
(31:51):
and Republicans alike were horrified by the lack of transparency,
lack of answers, and the obvious failures.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
I mean this, I would suspect this will be addressed today.
Speaker 10 (32:02):
You I would think so after what happened yesterday, and
you know, try to rip the band aid off. It's
just it's a very busy time with the Secret Service though.
They've just added two new protectees last week, adding one more.
When Harris makes her announcement, They've got net and Yahoo
was in town this week planning for the DNC in
a couple of weeks in Chicago, they got a full
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play right now.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Yeah, and I have to take my hat off to Democrats.
They did not.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
I mean there were a couple that did anti gun grandstanding,
but by and large, Democrats and Republicans together were horrified
by this testimony and unanimous, in nearly unanimous, in calling
for her resignation. All right, so we start this whole
thing off, and this would be a high point for
Kamala Harris because a Joe's gone, there's eighty one million dollars,
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there's everybody in the Democrat Party support behind her.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
But she still trails by two.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Well, I assume George Coloney is happy, but she still
trails by two.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (32:58):
He just put out a press release saying he's endorsing COMA.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
So he's endorsing. Well, that makes all the difference.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
In the world.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Right, Well, if you put RFK in there, the lead
is more like four or five, and then there's a
whole month to go.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Is she rising too fast?
Speaker 10 (33:14):
I don't think so. I think it's all gonna you know,
meet her out. I think I think things will start
to level off. We'll get into a campaign routine soon enough.
But yeah, I don't they're too fast. I don't think so.
But you know, we are going to get another spike
when she names that running mate, and the calculus in
that is going to be interesting.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Yeah, because somebody's got a dress Michigan and one can't
really imagine they'll go with two women. Somebody's got to
then address Pennsylvania and there you got Josh Shapiro and
that could make sense.
Speaker 10 (33:51):
Do you bring in military and this is where you
know Arizona and that can come in and get marked
in there and planking on his last name, Kelly Kelly. Yeah,
so there are a lot of different calculations. The governor
of Kentucky bipartisan, but it's Kentucky, so that doesn't get
you anything. Yeah, there's a lot going on.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
There is a crazy year.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
They can only get What do you make of all
the rumors on social media that Joe Biden is dying?
Speaker 3 (34:17):
I mean, other than no, it's just whatever.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
I would I would think he's got six months left
in him.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
All right, he's a big deal. He's Rory O'Neil.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
We're all in this together. This is your Morning Show
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