08-13-24 Your Morning Show Hour 2

When they say they fighting to protect democracy, they’re really attacking it!

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Speaker 2 (00:39):
Welcome to Tuesday, the thirteenth of August twenty twenty four,
on the air and streaming live on your iHeart app.
This is your morning show. I'm Michael del Jorno. Six
minutes after the hour, despite some well a technical attack
to block it Elon Musk, conversation went on for two
hours with Donald Trump, US continues to strengthen forces in
the Middle East due to escalating region tensions. We're going

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to visit Lieutenant Colonel James Carafundo to kick off our
third Hour Next Hour on that and other foreign policy questions.
Protesters against Israel and the United States are expected to
be outside the DNC convention in Chicago next week. It's
nineteen sixty eight, where's its ugly head? In twenty twenty
four once again and RFG Junior being denied from the

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New York presidential ballot. More on that in moments from now.
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Speaker 1 (01:50):
Well on chill, did you hear Trump is the ultimate unifier?
Kamo is now agreeing with him on saving on taxes
for all those hospitals.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah, if you know I mentioned earlier, if Elon Musk
would ever extend the invitation out of Kamala Harris. Let's
see if she's interested in a two hour open conversation,
a substantive conversation, because it might come up it. Look,
I think for those that are in her matrix, this

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would be welcome news that suddenly Kamala Harris is for
not taxing tips. I think even they would probably acknowledge, well,
she's stile that from Donald Trump. But okay, but they
she already had their votes. It's the people whose votes
she'll never get and those in between trying to decide
that can see she's copied, and that makes this relevant.
This is what my father used to call bigger than

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a giraffe. On August seventh of twenty twenty two, two
years ago, the vice president of the United States, Kamala
Harris is now candidate for president, now suddenly interested in
no longer taxing tips, She cast the tie breaking vote

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to pass the Inflation Reduction Act that provided eighty billion
dollars in additional funding to the Internal Revenue Service, which
then got to work cracking down on service industries reporting tips.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Now I have the entire.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
IRS mandate that I could read you word for word,
and its specifically targets those in the service industry not
reporting tips properly, and here she is now saying she
champions it. Or how about yesterday Carringean Pierre defending how

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the President has always fought for work.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
If you think about what the President has talked about
the last three and a half years, making sure that
we have an economy that works for all, not leaving
anybody behind, an economy that's built from the bottom up,
middle out, the President has been fighting and the Vice
president is of fighting to do just that.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Never mind that final vote that targeted tips and those
in the service industry.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
This is something that the President supports. He supports eliminating
taxes on tips for service and hospitality workers, while also
raising minimum wage and preventing the wealthy from gaining the system.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Perhaps the President is not aware of it was in
his own Inflation Reduction Act. By the way, I'll remind
you inflation hasn't been reduced, But in that eighty billion
dollars was the irs funding to go target those that
were getting tips? Can she get away with this copycat

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when she was the deciding vote? Well, anybody and stinking, decaying,
smelling death of journalism. Never a holder accountable for it?
Don't hold your breath. Another talk backwards, this one from
we Don't Know.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Some One comes from w l A. C here in Nashville, Okay.

Speaker 5 (05:17):
On Good Morning, Michael Jared really enjoying a conversation about RFK.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Hello, Hello, Hello Sleep.

Speaker 5 (05:34):
I was just wondering, do you know if the Krispy
Kreme Fresh Light is on?

Speaker 2 (05:41):
I just yeah, it is. I just checked it a
few minutes ago. Glad I could help you with that,
the story he's referring to when he's not thinking about donuts.
A New York judge ruled Monday that independent presidential candidate
Robert F. Kennedy Junior will not be allowed so far
to appear in the state's ballot in November, claiming he

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falsely claimed that he lived at a friend's house in
New York on his qualifying petition. The ruling comes after
the Democratic aligned Clear Choice Superpack challenged Kennedy's application for
ballot access in New York as well as other states.

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But you know how New York goes. You saw what
they've done with Donald Trump. This becomes a fascinating story.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Robert F.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Kennedy Junior is registered to vote in New York.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
He has had a.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Primary primary residence in New York since nineteen sixty four,
as long as I've been alive. He pays taxes in
New York, he has a New York state driver's license.
He's even got a legal license to practice law in

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New York. But in this judge's mind, that's not enough
proof that he's a New York citizen. Let that soak
In registered to vote there, primary residence there for fifty
nine years, pays taxes there, driver's license there, law practice
license is there, and the ruling is he's not a residence. Well,

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the Kennedy quote was, the Democrats are showing contempt for democracy.
They're not confident they can win at the ballot box,
so they're trying to stop voters from having a choice.
We will appeal and we will win. What a stunning
example we talked about this last hour. This is classic

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Saul Alynsky, the mentor of Barack Obama, who has now
made a classic Barack Obama. Then Podesta and the Democrat
operatives in George Soros made a classic Democrat party. Whatever
you're accusing, you're confessing you're doing. Whatever you're accusing, you're

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actually confessing what you're doing. The fact that they are
out there telling you they're going to save democracy means
they are toppling it. Classic example number one RFK. I've
talked about the two silent factors that apparently nobody else

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in the media is smart enough to bring up Elon
Musk because the last time they pulled off a shadow
campaign to hide Joe in a basement and steal the election,
which they confess to, and a Time magazine shadow campaign
to save the democracy.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Piece.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Google it February fifteenth, Time Magazine shadow campaign. It'll pop
right up and it's a manifesto. They controlled the narrative
through the media they control. It's just a mouthpiece for
the Democrat Party. Journalism is dead. And then they controlled

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any opposing views and thoughts by controlling social media. Then
they weaponized COVID, Then they changed election laws. Then they
harvested ballots used in mail and votes to steal the
election in swing precincts at swing states. And they tell
you if it hadn't worked, they were going to do
an insurrection, which they were conditioning you for with all
of the Antifa and Black Lives Matter protests. In the article,

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they talk about how they just scramble to call down
the dogs. It begs the question if they don't, if
Kamala doesn't win, do they plan an insurrection this time?

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Maybe? If the sololenskyism is true.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
When they say Donald Trump won't leave, it's because they
don't plan to leave, but they are in fact the
ones attacking democracy. Their problem this time. The media is
less relevant, less watched, lest listened to, less red than ever.

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It's less influential than ever. Social media is more influential.
Podcasts are more influential. Where's Kennedy, Where's Trump? On Joe
Rogan and on X with its new owner Elon Musk,
they can't do it the way they did it four
years ago. Elon Musk is a silent thing they didn't

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plan for. Rfk Junior is a silent thing they didn't
plan for. Because as this gets worse and it will
sugar highs end and they crash low and I don't
have to tell you sooner or later. She's got to
do an interview sooner or later. She's got a debate,

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sooner or later. A lot in her party are going
to come back to the conclusion they once had.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
She's the only thing worse than Joe.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
And they're not going to look to switch to Trump,
but they might look to switch to Kennedy, which could
in fact insure Trump. And Elon Musk went a long
way to ensuring Trump last night. Let's talk about that
for a second. We said there are two things to notice. One,
this is bigger than any Oprah Barbara Walters Walter Cronkite

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exclusive and this day and age. You can go add
up all the ratings at you take last night's Fox, CNN, MSNBC, ABC,
NBCCBS Nightly News, add all the ratings up. It couldn't
even come halfway close to how many people listen to

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Donald Trump have a conversation with Elon Musk live on
a social media platform last night. That's how different the
times are. Kamala is playing a weapon. Well that's obsolete
Donald Trump, RFK Junior with Rogan and Elon Musk on

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next that's the latest weapon. So Hollywood can play out
this illusion. They do it with great theater, great writing,
great visuals, great artificial intelligence.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
But is it real?

Speaker 2 (12:41):
This is gonna make me a minute late, but it's
worth it because people are waking up. This is the
beginning of Elon Musk. He just got through explaining how
their site was attacked. Somebody tried to block this interview
from happening, and I think you're gonna a pretty good
idea who might be blocking it in the next clip.
But in this clip, he just gets through explaining that,
and then he explains what they're about.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
To do.

Speaker 6 (13:04):
As this, uh, this massive attack illustrates there's a lot
of opposition to people just hearing what President Trump has
to say.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
In a democracy, we don't want to hear what a
candidate and a former president has to say.

Speaker 6 (13:18):
And so but I'm honored to have this conversation. I
want emphasize it's a it's a conversation, and it's really
intended to just get a feel for what Donald Trump is.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Just like in a conversation.

Speaker 6 (13:32):
So it's hard to catch a vibe about someone if
you just don't hear them talk in a normal way.
And when you know, when when there's an adversarial interview,
it's like no one's themselves in adversarial interview?

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Is this the new debate?

Speaker 2 (13:47):
He's so right, You can't get to know somebody in
an adversarial conversation.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
You got to have trust to be yourself.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Two hours substantive on every issue, on every plan, with
them over a million people watching it live. Can you
only imagine when it bounces around on social media with
that number turns to and who would want to block it?
We talk about the days of the Washington Post and
the New York Times, in the LA Times and the

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Chicago Tribune and those days being over, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS,
those days being over. Well, here's a Washington Post reporter.
Watch his question to the White House Press Secretary John Crimpierre.

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Listen to the words in this question.

Speaker 7 (14:42):
Elon Musk is slated to interview Donald Trump tomorrow tonight
on on X.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
I don't know if the President is going today go
for to say he is or not. But I think
that misinformation on Twitter is not just a campaign issue.
It's a you know, it's a market issue. What role
does the White House or.

Speaker 8 (15:04):
The President have in sort of stopping that, or stopping
the spread of.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
That, or sort of intervening in that. Some of that
was about campaignless information, but you know.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
It's a wider payer Ah like how dairy Elon Musk
have a conversation with the presidential candiate. By the way,
I hope he goes on to have one with Kamala
Harris that might be even more effective. But there's the
Washington Post saying, what's the president plan to do to
stop it? Maybe it was the administration that created all
the technical difficulties last night, but they didn't stop it.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
This is more than your Sound of the Day. This
is the problem of the hour.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
This is your morning show with Michael Del Torono.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
The US is strengthening its forces in the Middle East
due escalating regional tensions. We're going to visit with Lieutenant
Colonel James Carafano about that next hour. Protests against Israel
and the US expected outside the DNC convention in Chicago.
Here comes nineteen sixty eight again in twenty twenty four.
RFK Junior being denied the New York ballot. So far

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it'll be under appeal. How they can prove he's not
a New York RESI resident where he's been since nineteen
sixty four is beyond me. In sports, well, the Dbacks
won last night five to four over the Rockies. The
Guardians won nine to eight in a slugfest with the
Chicago Cubs, but everybody else lost. Rais lost six to

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one to the Astros. Rangers lost five to four to
the Red Sox. Our Cardinals lost six to one to
the Reds, and the Mariners and Nationals were off birthdays.
We had no significant birthdays today, not a single celebrity
or athletic birthday. Really, so I've decided to wish our
listener's happy birthday.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Oh what a swell thing.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Realtor and former morning host Rick Marino, who invented the
talkback pot, was fixing to say, born on this day.
Joe Anne Skidmore, a faithful listener, born on this day,
Amy Martin Molina, and Paul Goody all born on this day.

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For goodness sakes, get a beat. We're so cleuch you
were born.

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This is your Morning Show, Good Morning. I'm Michael del
Jorno along with Jeffrey Lyon, pressing all the buttons despite
some technical attacks, I guess you would say that tried

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and attempted to block it. Elon Musk had his long
conversation with Donald Trump lasted for about two hours. At
one point, over a million people live Your Morning show
correspondent Roory O'Neil is joining us at RORYO. I can
only imagine what that million will turn into bouncing around
on social media all week, well exactly, And you.

Speaker 9 (17:54):
Know you don't need an audience tuning in when these
things happen live anymore, with them either available for delayed
broadcast or US talking about it, with all the clips
certainly making a splash on all the headlines today.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
But it went on for two hours last night.

Speaker 8 (18:10):
A lot of it very familiar territory, a lot of
it sounding like a pretty typical Trump rally, But you
know it also felt a little voyeuristic as we leaned
in and heard these two men and have a conversation.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
I'm going to spare everybody that's been listening to the clip.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
You can go to the podcast if you want to
hear what I played but Elon must talks about the
attack and how they it delayed, but they and it
showed how a lot of opposition doesn't want people to
hear conversations like that. And then he went on to
explain really what his motive and intent was, not so
much for those that are already in a right silo
or a left silo, but for curious, independent thinkers to

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have an opportunity to hear a conversation. And he stressed conversation,
and then he talked about something that I know as
a very highly decorated and accomplished reporter, you can appreciate
that people only feel we are only going to be
themselves as they feel comfortable. And so he talked at
the outset, how you can't expect It's as if there

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are people that want us to know there's a side
of Donald Trump you don't get to hear because he's
always interacting with people attacking him, and that's what you're overhearing.
What we want to do is have a conversation, a
substantive conversation where the real Donald Trump can explain to
you what's happening, what he plans to do. And I
wonder at some point because there's a changing of guard

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in the media. If this isn't the new effective debate.

Speaker 8 (19:31):
Well, but Elon Musk is also paying forty five million
dollars a month for this, right, you know, by you know,
donating that much money to Donald Trump packs. So, you know,
I'm not sure how genuine this conversation was. There was
a lot of back and forth about your great no no, no,
your great No, no, no, your great.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
So there's a lot of that back in that sounds
like you and me talking. No, it's always one side
of it. It's it certainly is sat you say, I talk.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 8 (19:55):
Yeah, So you know, I don't think it's I'm not
sure how genuine it is or they as he may
try to portray it. But you know, towards the end
he did just say, hey, look, I'm not this is
Musk talking. I'm not a right wing whatever he says,
I make an electric car company. I'm you know, I
gave I waited six hours to shake Barack Obama's hand,

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So it Musk was saying, this is something. This was
a decision he came around to after you know, a
lot of consideration and thought. By the way, Musk also
talked I mean, the part that bothered me was Musk
talking about the need for deregulation.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
We've got to have deregulation. Deregulation.

Speaker 8 (20:35):
You know, this from a guy giving forty five million
dollars a month to the next possible president.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
You're like, Okay, this may be crossing a line a bit.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Well, yeah, I mean, but it would be very very interesting,
and I don't think she would. But he should extend
the same invitation to Kamala Ras.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Should he not? Absolutely?

Speaker 8 (20:52):
Because you know, the questions are going to be terrible,
because they certainly were last night. There was no follow
up questions and Elon Musk was just sort of working
off an odd list of topics to discuss, because he
even said, I, you know, I guess we should talk
about you know, and then you know, try to bring
up another item for discussion. But so it wasn't really
a great conversation. Donald Trump, you know, took over most

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of it, as you would expect you would, and again
a lot of it was what we hear in the
stump speeches pretty typically. But look, you know, if if
it helps rally the Trump crowd and it gets the
Trump faithful out there, and it motivates them to get
to the polls all the better.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
All right, you have no problem, and you didn't hear
me interrupt you and defend it. There's no question that
Elon Musk clearly has made his choice Donald Trump. I
you don't, you would never do this. I don't mind
my listeners knowing I've made my choice. I'm rooting for
Donald Trump. I plan to vote for Donald Trump. But
I can still have objective conversations. But I get that

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if people want to say that. But you realize the
mainstream media has become just what you're describing every day,
disguised as news, and they're not any more genuine.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
My counter with that would be that, you know, we
use the word the media.

Speaker 8 (22:07):
Are just thrown around a lot, and then you know,
we'll wait a minute, now, do we mean Kelly Clarkson?

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Do we mean you know, the Evening News.

Speaker 8 (22:14):
Or you know, you go and I think it's just
too broad Well, I know, but I just think it's
too broad a discussion. And look, I'm sure Kamala Harris
is going to show up on Kelly Clarkson and do
some softball nonsense and share a cooking recipe, and you
know that will also be an insult to my intelligence.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
What about there's a there's a Fox story today Disney
executives close friendship and and it outlines the executives close
friendship with Kamala and their husband's close friendship that it's,
you know, a massive conflict of interest. Look, there's no
question ABC, NBCCBS, MSNBC, CNN they're biased. There's no question

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in my mind and in most of American people mind.
And yet that's the only debate that's agreed upon. So
you know, once you're at that level, what's the difference
between Elon Musk having a conversation and ABC having a
debate trust wise?

Speaker 8 (23:12):
Well, look at the last debate with Joe Biden and
Donald Trump. I mean most everyone had good things to
say about the moderators in that debate, right, Well that
was so that one didn't come.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Most of the moderators are not moderators. First of all,
they're former operatives and or key personalities from the networks.
They all focus way too much on themselves. I think
Megan Kelly, you know, was most reactive and oh my gosh,
if I become the story. Well, yeah, when you phrase
the opening question like that to Donald Trump at a debate,
you're going to become the story, so they make it
about them, and it's supposed to be about us.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
I'd like to see a debate.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
I don't know why David Sanati invented this style of debate,
and I'd love to see it take place where if
you bring up your opponent in any way, your time
is up. If you do it twice, you're dismissed. Everybody's
asked the same question, everybody's given the same amount of time,
and the only thing is you can't say anything about
your opponent. You have to talk to the voters about

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your view of that issue and what you plan to do.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Why can't we just have a debate like that?

Speaker 8 (24:17):
Yeah, Well, because they're all out for the gotcha moment
rather than Zach talking about policy.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Well, there was definitely no gotcha moments with Elon Musk.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
No, I guess the first forty five minutes were the
gotcha moment. All right, So a million people were listening live.
That million will probably be close to a billion probably
by the time it bounces around all over social media.
How effective could this be? And can Elon Musk achieve
his goal? His goal stated at the beginning was this
is not for the people that are decidedly left or
decidedly right. It's for the curious in between that are

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still deciding.

Speaker 8 (24:50):
I think if he does these again, he needs a
third person in the room because Elon is not very
good at this.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
And see, that's the only thing you and I disagree
with it. I know you like to bully.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
I'm older and you're disrespectful. That's fine, No, but I
actually like that. I like that he's not a professional.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Yeah, but can you well you are? You have dedicated
your entire life to this craft. Are you sure?

Speaker 2 (25:15):
When you're listing it's not like, well, you know, because
everybody I do that with podcasts. Everybody thinks they're a
podcaster now and that makes them a broadcaster.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Well you're not. But well, I would say that, and
I do have to go. But I would say that the.

Speaker 8 (25:28):
Musk has so many irons in the fire boring company
SpaceX teslah blah blah blah blah blah, that he can't
focus on organizing himself for a two hour interview. Well,
and I think that there could be someone there to
help facilitate things with him.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Eight aides that producer I will talk next hour, Rory's
going to be back. We're going to do the United
States is moving more military hardware, ships at sea, submarines
into the Middle East region. We're going to have a
kind of book ended for you. We're going to start
with Lieutenant Colonel James Carafano. With an Iranian attack on
Israel imminent and US forces moving into place, is there

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any way to avoid this escalating into a direct war
between Iran and Israel? Right now it's been a proxy
war with Israel and Hamas and hezbe Llah proxies of Iran,
but a direct war, and as I always remind people,
it's a very chilling moment. Don't forget Israel and Iran
are a proxy war that could lead to a world

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war between the United States, China, and Russia.

Speaker 10 (26:28):
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Speaker 1 (26:35):
Several states holding primaries today. Mark Mayfield has details.

Speaker 11 (26:39):
Mooners will go to the polls Tuesday in Connecticut, Minnesota, Vermont,
and Wisconsin. In Minnesota, Progressive congress woman Elin Omar will
defend her seat against former Minneapolis City council member Don Samuels.
The contest comes after two other members of the so
called Progressive Squad, Jamal Bowman and Corey Bush, lost their
Democratic primaries to this cycle. In Wisconsin, Republicans will choose

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as a candidate to run against Democratic Senator Tammy Baldwin,
who is running for a third Senate term. I'm Mark
Neefield well.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
New York Courts majored and harassing Donald Trump yesterday, I
did a good job with RFKGE Junior Andrew Whitman reports.

Speaker 10 (27:12):
The judge ruling Monday that the Kennedy campaign used a
sham address to maintain state residency. Kennedy claimed to live
in Westchester County's Katona on state election forms and in
recent mailers, but that address is actually owned by a
Kennedy pale. Before running for president, Kennedy had been living
in la with wife Cheryl Hines. Kennedy has three days

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to appeal. Andrew Whitman NBC News Radio New.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
York, and I'm confident Andrew would want you to know
that the ruling came in spite of the fact that
Kennedy is registered to vote in New York, has a
primary residence, and has had a primary resident since nineteen
sixty four in New York, has a New York State
driver's license and his license to practice law in New York,
but somehow is not a New York resident qualified to

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be on the ballot. Residents felt the earth move under
their feet in southern California. Who better to report on
an earthquake than Brian Shook.

Speaker 12 (28:08):
The magnitude four point four quake was centered in South Pasadena,
and Eric says he was having lunch when it hit.
It was really quick and it was it felt like
something fell.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
It didn't feel like the earth was taken. It was
more like a whambam.

Speaker 12 (28:22):
It hit at twelve twenty Monday afternoon local time. The
USGS sent out an automated warning to cell phone seconds
before the earthquake hit. There are no reports of injuries.
I'm Brian Shook.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Well after an attack that they finally got worked out
in forty five minutes. Donald Trump did have about a
two hour conversation that a million people watch live on
x is the former president Donald Trump strang too far
off message. Some of his advisors are telling him to
stick to the issues. White House correspondent John Decker is
joining us and I know a lot of my listener's
gonna be like ready to pounce on you.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
No, this is a legitimate question.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
I mean, you could make a case Donald Trump should
never the message of border or economy, Perry detective story,
or maybe just the simple Reagan question. Compare your life
four years ago to today. That's what they mean about
staying on message.

Speaker 7 (29:12):
What do you think, Well, it's not what I think,
it's what other allies of Donald Trump thinks. You look
at the current House Speaker who chastised one of his
fellow House Republicans for calling Kamala Harris a DEI candidate.
You have the former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy who is
imploring Donald Trump to stay on message. And the reason

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being is because those allies of Donald Trump believe that
they have good issues to run on. They have better
issues to run on than Kamala Harris and the Democrats.
But as you know, Donald Trump at campaign rallies, even
at his speech in which he accepted the Republican presidential nomination.
Verer's off script often and veers into territory that has

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nothing at all to do with trying to win an election.
You know, when you talk about another candidate's identity when
you talk, when you chastise another candidate based upon their appearance,
that's not winning over voters. That may appeal to certain
parts of the MAGA Republican base, but it doesn't do
anything in terms of trying to win over undecided voters

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in battleground states in particular.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
All Right, two questions.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Because you have covered a lot of presidents as a
White House correspondent, I tend to agree with these people
to some degree, but by the same token, I mean,
this is Donald Trump, and this has always been Donald Trump,
and this got Donald Trump a record amount of votes
in twenty twenty, and it got him to defeat Hillary Clinton.
So it's kind of hard to argue with that, though.

(30:43):
I have been one who has said the most powerful
thing for Donald Trump would be a Donald Trump two
point zero, which was kind of created when he was
tied up in court because when he riffs, he gets
off topic and he pretty much gives them something to
go with, which in the end ends up kind of
playing their distraction game. And now you're off the topic
of the border and off the topic of the economy,

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which would be a great strength and advantage for him.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
We see that in the polls, right, those are.

Speaker 7 (31:11):
Winning issues Republicans feel for them in November, and Donald
Trump doesn't always stick to those winning issues. And to
the point that you make you know that you know
sometimes this works or had had not. Sometimes it worked
for Donald Trump, but it worked for him in twenty sixteen.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Think about it this way.

Speaker 7 (31:28):
Did you ever see the movie which is one of
my favorite movies, The Hangover?

Speaker 1 (31:33):
That movie, great movie. How about the Hangover two? Now?

Speaker 7 (31:36):
What Hangover three?

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Do you like to Hangover three?

Speaker 7 (31:38):
They're getting worse and worse as they make them, and
that's the reason why the box office numbers really were
not like they were with the first Hangover, the original,
And that's what we're seeing essentially with Donald Trump. Yes,
he won in twenty sixteen, but that same Donald Trump
didn't really play well with the audience in twenty twenty
and it's not playing well least if you look at

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polling in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Well, we say it doesn't play well. But the truth
of the matter is within the center of his base.
I mean, those that are very far right, very very
much believe more in Donald Trump, sometimes conceivably than they
do the Republican Party or America for that matter, It
plays to them, and that's usually who's at the rally,

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and I think that's what makes him feel like he's
doing something really effective for the room that isn't necessarily
as effective for those that are watching. These are a
group of individuals telling Donald Trump to get back on
message that I want to disagree with, but at the
end of the day, I think they're right. I mean, really,
can you think of anything more powerful for Donald Trump
to say, over and over again, forget Kamala, forget me,

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forget the Internet, forget politics, forget your friends and fights
at the water cooler. How's your life compared to four
years ago? What do you feel at the gas station?
What do you feel at the groceries store? What do
you feel about your kid's future and the ability to
have the dream to own a home? Does it feel
better today? That's what Ronald Reagan did. And Ronald Reagan
did it honestly and didn't answer it. He left it there. Look,

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and if your life is better, vote for Jimmy Carter.
If not, here's me, here's what I can do for you.
That's what I think, Donald, I mean, that's the moment
I think we're in and he's just being that. You
are correct to say he's being vintage Donald Trump twenty sixteen,
twenty twenty unfitunately, it's twenty twenty four, right.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Well, that's right.

Speaker 7 (33:32):
Sometimes candidates and not sometimes again, Oftentimes candidates live in bubbles.
You know, they don't know that there's another world out there,
in the case of Donald Trump, beyond the maga Republican base.
They don't realize that there's a percentage of Americans that
may not view the world that they do. When you're
in this bubble, you know, you feel like you're winning

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over everybody. And that's how Donald Trump, I think, feels
when he goes to those campaign rallies.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
You know, the other side everybody loves me.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
The other side isn't lily white either. I mean Hillary
with deplorables, and I don't have to tell you how
Joe Biden and you know they've been hurling them as well.
So it doesn't seem to be the same scorekeeping, that's
for sure. But great insights, great reporting is always John Decker,
our White House correspondent. We'll talk again tomorrow.

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