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The new devil is RFK Jr…why the left is demonizing him more than Trump now

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I'm Michael del Jono.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Jeffrey Lyon's got the controls and if you're just waking
up at seven minutes after the hour, it's on. I
get it out. We're going to have a debate September
tenth in Pennsylvania. It's going to be the same style
of debate that we had between Trump and Biden. No
student audience, microphones muted when not speaking. I think it's
going to be good for the American people. Vice President

(01:04):
Harris is finally going to do an interview coming up
on forty days. She comes out of the desert and
she's bringing Tim with her, her emotional support candidate. It'll
be CNN a joint interview with Dana Bash and former
President Donald Trump. Adds our FK Junior and former Democratic
congresswoman and Democratic presidential candidate and the one who knocked

(01:27):
Kamala Harris out of the race in twenty twenty. He
invites both of them to be a part of his
presidential transition team, meaning they'll have a say in policy
and cabinet choices. That's how much Donald Trump thinks of
our FK Junior and Telsea Gabbard. So this vision of
enough of the two parties, how about we be American

(01:48):
citizens and they serve American people, you might be having
the formation of the first bipartisan presidency. That and more
gives us a lot to talk about. Probably the one
ailing question, will the Democrats orchestration of the Biden to
Harris betrayal of the primary process cost them more than
just this election? And that kind of leads into our

(02:11):
second big question, how low will the Democrats and the
leftist media go to demonize our FK Junior now and
by doing so, take their eye off demonizing the great Boogeyman,
Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
And then I can't.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Help but be distracted by the sounds of car noise,
which tells me that I got a beautiful note from
Scott Hamilton this morning.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
It's his birthday.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
I'm wishing him happy birthday, and he's talking about my
birthday in two days. Then we're both going back and
forth as to what our friendship means to each other.
And then it's time to do my interview with David Sinati,
and I can hear that he's in the car, which
tells me he's on his way here for my birthday.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
And listen, I don't.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Want to cry on the air, but when you have
a momentous birthday and I know you want to probably
surprise me the notion that you might be driving towards
Tennessee right now, while it's distracting me from the content
of what I hoped we would discuss today, I'm just
so thrilled you're going to be here. He's probably on

(03:11):
his way to McDonald's.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Right Actually, I'm on my way to Youngstown, Ohio right now,
which exactly the wrong direction.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
I was just gonna say, that's not on the way
to hear all right, I'll t tried to Italian guilt
you here. No, seriously, take that, take the set up
and run. Donald Trump seems to be very serious, not
about using our FK Junior and Telsey Gabber to win
this election, but to show the American people once and
for all. I think the first campaign was about the
failures of the Republican Party, this time the Democrat Party,

(03:42):
perhaps the two party system and the two parties. Two
hundred Republicans speaking out against Trump, and then what the
DNC is doing to demonize Trump. Take them back to court,
and now RFK, we got ourselves a two party war,
don't we?

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Welsa Michael and I think it's responded that we're here
about k JR R K Junior was not substantive if
his move to Trump Camp is endorsement from about Trump
and his.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
Room was not thro a tooral hope of them wouldn't
be demonizing him.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
But James Carville yesterday said if America was a benevolent society,
we would take Bobby Kennedy off the streets and put
him in a home where he couldn't hurt people. That's
what Carville said, and he said it out loud, and
he said it in front of a camera, and then
another of us the thing was for him, ikened Bobby

(04:49):
Kennedy Junior to Jeffrey Domino. Now, these are so far
over the top statements that you've got to know they
realized he's a thresh and is a massive key's a
massive threat from sure boats.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yeah, we you know, everybody was kind of scratching our
head and saying, by the way, your phone is cutting
out bad.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
I don't know if you can hit a rest area.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
But we always said from the very beginning, is RFK
more of a threat to them as a spoiler or
getting out of the race. And I think interestingly enough,
RFK has some polling that would suggest, beyond what our
polling can see, some very specific polling that him out
of the race is a two to one benefit to

(05:39):
Trump in the race not as much, which is why
you see him taking himself off the ballot in the
five swing states but leaving himself on elsewhere where it
doesn't really matter.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Thus it's just a suspended campaign. But that would.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Suggest that RFK, unlike Ross Perrot, I might add has
looked at this and said, I told you if the
role was I wouldn't stay in. I'm in this to
win it, and the moment I don't think I can
win it and only be a spoiler, I'll get out,
and he did. It also shows an alliance with Donald
Trump over his old party and perhaps some of his

(06:12):
family members is real. And if those numbers are true,
it sounds like RFK has seen him and maybe Carvel
and a few others have seen them as well well.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
And it also proves that Kennedy's in it because of
the things he believes. At the age of seventy, he's
not trying to make a name for himself. That was
something he's been trying to shepherd and rightly steward. And
he's embraced a number of issues, and not all of
which Donald Trump agrees with. Certainly not all of us
I agree with. But I notice every time Bobby Kennedy
starts talking about a healthy America, I see people start

(06:45):
shaking their heads in affirmation. He's onto some things. And
we start talking. When Donald Trump starts talking about the
Assassinations Commission and investigations, people are saying it's about time,
so I think they're onto something. Gabbert is all so
a significant game. So this changes everything. Michael. The numbers.
If you go back to the twenty twenty numbers, we

(07:06):
talked about this yesterday, let me reaffirm that you're looking
at four states that were one by zero percent to
two percent. Joe Biden. I mean, these numbers are not
hard to flip. They flipped them on Trump, but it
was a massive effort for them to get those numbers
to flip. They had to have a pandemic and everything

(07:27):
else in that mail in Avalanche. Now that we've gotten
things set up in a way that people understand how
they work, we're in a position where if the Republicans
do their job, with the momentum they have right now,
they can win this election.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
David's not He's the CEO of the American Powace to
Round Table. He's also the host of The Public Square
heard on two hundred stations. You can hear it and
demand at public square dot com the public Square dot Com.
He also hosts eighteen fifty And he's definitely not driving
towards me on my birthday? Do you understand why I
asked the question the way I did. Will this entirely
revealed and obvious Democrat Party orchestration of Biden out Harrison coronated,

(08:10):
the throwing away of all the primary votes, and really
the destruction of the primary process. Look, the Shadow campaign
in twenty twenty disrespected the American voters and the right
and Republicans. This is disrespecting their own Could this cost
them more than just this election? Because something tells me
that this is now the focus. This is the mission

(08:31):
of our FKA Junior and Telsea Gabbard to reveal this
to Democrats as only they can.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Well, this is a question you've been raising on the
radio for over ten years. The question that you're really
asking is when you hit this piece of glass and
it starts to crack, how far is it going to fracture?
The defact party has been hollowed out by special interest organizations,
most importantly John Podesta, George Soros, and the and the

(09:00):
Center for American Progress. This cobbled together coalition that masquerades
as a party every four years is really a network
of billionaires and agendas and narratives put together at the
help of American corporate media. If this blows apart for them,
if they lose this, and they lose this significantly, and

(09:21):
they lose this to Donald Trump. How are they going
to recover? That's the question you're asking, And it's a
fair question. It's too soon to know, but it's certainly
a fair question.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
How low will they go with RFK? I mean, for
somebody to somebody, I'm thinking about Jesse Waters, and I've
watched the video over and over again, and I know
Jesse can go too far, but in this particular case,
he was just talking about, we don't know anything about
Kamala Harris. She won't tell us where she stands. She's
going to get in a situation room in freeze, and
these generals are going to I forgot how he said

(09:53):
it be all over.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
The way with her, their way with her.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
And then suddenly everybody asks like he was making some
kind of sexual and appro remark. I'm thinking, we're gonna
split hairs like that. And then you got somebody on
a liberal media outlet calling RFK junior Jeffrey Dahmer And
that's not even in the news.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
I mean, come on.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
You talk about how they control the narrative, and it's
a weapon, and one they can use on others, but
it never gets used on themselves. I mean goose mean gander,
Gander say hello to goose. But how low I mean
this is this the beginning or is this as low
as it gets?

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Well, it's a very significant point that you're bringing up,
and it's a question of how do you treat your enemies.
I'd like to believe that Republicans, I'm not one, I'm
an independent. I'd like to believe that Republicans will have
more grace. I certainly think RFK Junior has had more grace.

(10:49):
I'd like to believe that one of the witnesses that
people can see in this campaign is that people who
are trying to do the right thing for America don't
have to hate their enemies and call them serial killers.
That's not the way you build a party of common
interest for the common good. Hopefully this is a window

(11:13):
of opportunity. Hopefully this will not be a tit for
tat response return that sort of situation.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Closing moments, So, David Sanaudi, you know, we talk about
the numbers, and again I want to be crystal clear,
OURFK is signified. He has polling, the shows getting out
of the race is enough to give Trump the victory,
so he's giving up his race to do that, something
ross Pero wouldn't do in the past. And then you
have these kinds of reactions make me think the polls
we see aren't the real polls, and the real polls

(11:42):
suggest what RFK says, and that's why they fear him
so much. But I would introduce my thesis, which is
they got something greater to fear than the numbers.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
You have the ability beyond the numbers game and.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
The polls which could hold and could not hold depending
on what happens between now and then, there is something
bigger and that You've got RFK Junior and Telsea Gabbert
that can now focus on the Democrats, prosecute a party
that has abandoned its principles and people, and now Donald
Trump can be presidential. They've got a lane's opportunity that's
even bigger than the numbers, especially for how they govern

(12:17):
after a victory. I hope they're seeing that too.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
I think it's lined up.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Michael. I hope they're seeing it as well. I think
your vision is crystal clear. They can get out about
solving problems for everybody and get away from all of
this nonsense. There's a great amount of exposure going on
to people who are praying about this. Pray that the
lights come on, Pray that we're able to see this
on both sides for what it is. Certainly Donald Trump

(12:44):
has been uncovered for the last four years of every
legal discovery mechanism. I mean, they've gone through everything he's got,
including literally going through his bedroom clousets. Let's pray that
the lights come on and we get to see everything
that's out.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Last question, We've had a January surprise, February surprise, a
marg surprise. I'll spare everybody all twelve months, and now
here comes September and after that October. I mean, what
could possibly be the October surprise. I will throw one
out there that you brought up earlier, and that is
and this is what I said yesterday. They should be

(13:22):
having irritable bowel over this issue. The Republicans and the
Democrats are standing by partisan in their investigation. It really
isn't just being led by Republicans, it is truly bipartisan.
That assassination attempt stinks to high heaven and beyond a
twenty year old kid, and nobody is letting go of
that bone, and we might have some definitive leaks and

(13:45):
or conclusions prior to the election. In fact, maybe the
October surprise itself still to play out. Crazy Year is
about to get crazier.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
It is now. The other one that people are talking
about is Biden will suddenly this here and the presidency
will become Kamala Harris's and that would upset the apple
carte completely. But the question becomes, how did the deal
get constructed for him to walk away from the nomination
And what people are saying that I'm hearing all the
fountain behind the scenes is Biden won't leave because he's

(14:18):
got to stay in office to pardon his son. And
therefore that surprises off the table. But who knows.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Time will tell, and we'll be here throughout time to
describe each and every event in the attempt to understand it.

Speaker 5 (14:34):
All.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Right, I guess you're not driving here, so go focus
on the road. This is your morning show with Michael
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Vice President Harrison are Emotional Support Veep Little Timmy are
set to sit down with CNN for their first joint interview.
Her first interview. Brian Shook has more.

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The pair will be interviewed by CNN's chief political correspondent
and anchored Dana Bash in an interview to air at
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to be the first time Harris has sat down with
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Or President Donald Trump says he's reached an agreement with
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Mark Mayfield has the details.

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Republican National Committee coachair Laura Trump since the former president
can't wait to freeze Harris.

Speaker 9 (15:41):
My understanding is that they have agreed to the exact
same terms that the Democrats dictated for the June twenty
seventh debate. They were very emphatic that Donald Trump agreed
to those rules.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
He said, okay.

Speaker 8 (15:50):
In a truth social post, Trump said the debate will
be home on ABC News and the rules will be
the same as the debate between him and President Biden.
The former president said it'll be a stand up debate
and they can't bring any notes. CNN reports that microphones
will be muted when the other candidate speaks, and there'll
be no studio audience. This comes as the Trump and
Harris camps have been going back and forth over the

(16:11):
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Speaker 3 (17:19):
I'm Jim Filton in Tampa, and my morning show is
your morning show.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
I am Michael del Journal along with Jeffrey Lyons. And
if you're just waking up, President Trump has reached an
agreement for the September tenth debate in Pennsylvania. It's on
Harris will finally, after thirty something days, sit down and
do an interview. But she's bringing Timmy with her. And
former President Trump is adding RFK Junior and Telsey Gabber
to his presidential transition team. That means they'll have to

(17:44):
say in policy and cabinets elections if Donald Trump goes
on to win the election. And I now know what
the wordle of the day is, but I will not
share it with anyone after all, I got a threatening
text from my wife and Rory is on Double Bull
Secret Watch right now.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Well, we'll talk about it tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
After historical eye inflation. How much does it cost to
live let alone, the American dream?

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Let alone?

Speaker 2 (18:12):
How would we even begin to discuss what the American
dream is?

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Rory?

Speaker 4 (18:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (18:16):
Well, USA Today sets down some pretty broad parameters when
they rank this, but they have found that the cost
of getting that American dream I like to call it
keeping up with the Joneses, you know, because it.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Really, well, it really is about.

Speaker 11 (18:28):
You have your house, you have your car, The kids
college tuition is getting paid for. You are putting away
money for retirement. You go away on a nice vacation.
You spend a few thousand dollars on clothes every year.
So yeah, I mean this is not this isn't bare
bone stuff. This is you know, you're doing it right,
But yeah, it's awfully expensive.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
USA Today says, on.

Speaker 11 (18:47):
Average, nationally, it's one hundred seventy eight two hundred and
sixty eight dollars seventy eight.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
I'm just gonna say, if one hundred and seventy eight
K is the national average, oh my gosh, what's it costing,
you know in places like New York, San Francisco and
so on.

Speaker 11 (19:06):
Right, and so the ten years ago, by the way,
it was one hundred and thirty thousand.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
What's the point I wanted to make.

Speaker 11 (19:11):
So that's gone up in ten years from one thirty
to one seventy eight the most expensive state. And when
you think about it, it makes sense because of the
real estate costs. Hawaii two hundred and sixty thousand dollars
to sixty.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Seven thirty four.

Speaker 11 (19:24):
California, though is not far behind, to two forty five,
and Massachusetts to forty two, three bright blue states.

Speaker 12 (19:33):
I see.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Had I done that, I might have gotten yelled at.
But yeah, that's pretty Uh. Their policies have consequences, and
the consequences are everything that they are pandering to get
votes is really unsustainable and unaffordable. All right, you hit
the nail right on the head.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
So in a decade we go from one hundred and
thirty K to one hundred and seventy eight K. And
can you imagine if we did the previous two decades what.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
What the rise would be.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
I mean, really, you could look at the last twenty
five years, and not just for the federal government. In
the last twenty five years alone, you have more debt
than you had in the first two hundred and something years.
It's starting to be paid for by the American people.
But here's what's scary, Rory. If it goes from one
hundred and thirty thousand to one hundred and seventy eight
thousand on average in a decade, what does a decade

(20:22):
from now look like out of reach?

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Right?

Speaker 5 (20:25):
Well?

Speaker 11 (20:25):
Right, but you know, when you break it down, it's
still only about three percent inflation of the year over
ten years, right.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
I don't know with COVID, is it this last decade?

Speaker 11 (20:34):
Well, if you say, well, one seventy eight versus one thirty,
if you had ten percent, if you had three percent
a year over ten years, that's.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Gonna you know, you know, And again I don't know
what the American dream is. You know, sometimes they define
poverty and it still involves a three bedroom home with
two baths, two cars, right, phones, cable. So the line
between poverty in the American you know, to me, the
American dream, or at least the dream of my life

(21:04):
is I married my best friend who's gorgeous, and I'm
just as happy today as I was twenty five years ago,
and I have three healthy children, and you know, all
this other stuff really doesn't matter what car we're driving.
But so I don't know how they define that, but
I can tell you that it's it's noticeably more.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Expensive today than I ever remembered my history.

Speaker 11 (21:23):
Yeah, USA today, it's their study.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
They run the numbers, they break.

Speaker 11 (21:26):
It all down as to how they got to some
of these figures, adding in healthcare and taxes and everything
else along the way. So it's a it's a good
read to see if it applies to your household.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
All right, And I know we're down to thirty seconds.
You did the top three states? Did they also rank
the most affordable states for the American Dream?

Speaker 1 (21:42):
They did?

Speaker 11 (21:43):
They ranked all fifty states. As a matter of fact,
after I closed that window, Mississippi, Mississippi is number fifty,
And even then it comes in, it's still more than
one hundred and eight thousand. It's one oh nine five
sixteen from Mississippi, Arkansas, Mississippi and Kentucky.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
You are the least expensive in there.

Speaker 11 (22:01):
Alabama's at forty seven, West Virginia forty six.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Sarah portion is in northwest Arkansas. I could be talked into,
so that might be significant. All right, you got a
rock good reporting today. Rory gives us our biggest financial
regrets and how the American dream is slipping out of
our fingertips. Boy, he's the Aaron Reyal today with all
the bad news.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
If you're just waking.

Speaker 12 (22:20):
Up what you don't need to know?

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Donald Trump, I guess he's the big rules winner. We'll
see who wins the debate. On September tenth, Brian Shook
as our road to the debate, I mean the road
to the White.

Speaker 7 (22:34):
House, Road to the White House. Twenty four. Former President
Trump says he's reached an agreement with Vice President Kamala
Harris related to the September tenth debate in Pennsylvania. Republican
National Committee coachair Laura Trump says the former president can't
wait to face Harris.

Speaker 9 (22:51):
My understanding is that they have agreed to the exact
same terms that the Democrats dictated for the June twenty
seventh debate. They were very emphatic that Donald Trump agreed
to those rules.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
He said, okay.

Speaker 7 (23:01):
In a truth social post, Trump said the debate will
be held on ABC News and the rules will be
the same as the debate between he and President Biden.
CNN reports that microphones will be muted when the other
candidate speaks, and there'll be no studio audience in Washington.
I'm Brian Shook, and.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
In honor of the debate rules, I want ahead and
muted Brian's.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Microphone for two seconds just to get people you know,
it's accustomed to the practice. Former President Donald Trump is
adding RFK Junior and former Democrat congressman from Hawaii and
presidential candidate Telsea Gabbard, once a Democrat, now has left
the party and is supporting Donald Trump. Both RFK Junior
and Telsea Gabbard join the presidential transition team for Team Trump.

(23:45):
That according to a Trump spokesperson, Kennedy Junior and Gabbard
both endorsed the former president recently in his bid for
the White House. The transition team's responsibilities to make policies
and staffing decisions if Trump should defeat Kamala Harrison November.
This is very significant. This shows that this campaign is

(24:06):
about more than Donald Trump defeating Kamala Harris. It's about
revealing to the American people how much this Democrat Party
has changed and what it did in twenty twenty and
what it did to its own people in a primary
this year. This becomes a prosecution of not just democracy,
but the Democrat Party and its failure while it's preserving

(24:29):
democracy to preserve it for itself. This gets very interesting. Meanwhile,
former President Trump is offering a chance to own pieces
of his suit that he wore during the debate with
Joe Biden. It's all a part of a new digital
trading cards Trump announced on truth social to trading card
series called America. First collection includes fifty new Trump images. Okay,

(24:58):
I'm done editing, he said. People who buy fifteen or
more of the ninety nine dollars digital cards will receive
a physical one, and this one will include a little
piece of the suit he war during the Biden debate
in June. If someone wore were to purchase seventy five cards,
they even get an opportunity to join Trump for dinner
at his country club in Florida. Our email of the

(25:20):
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Speaker 1 (26:23):
I'm Michael Castler.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
So we had Walter Cronkite, Johnny Carson, David Letterman, you
know iconic people. Now it's Joe Rogan and the Kelsey Brothers.
Did you catch it?

Speaker 1 (26:38):
One hundred million dollars podcast deal old?

Speaker 2 (26:45):
At times, they are a changing Hey, it's me Michael.
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In the meantime, enjoy the podcast. Thanks for waking up
with your morning show. Can't have your morning show without
your voice. We got this email at Michael D at

(27:20):
iHeartMedia dot com. Tom writes, Oh, so we now have
Trump jersey cards.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Yeah, we do.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
That's why I paused for eight seconds editing myself. In
addition to that, apparently Trump has reached an agreement. We're
going to have the same style debate we had with
Trump and Biden, no audience muted mics. I think you
know what we discovered is probably the only way to
really have a substantive debate where it's not influenced by

(27:49):
crowds or playing to the crowd.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
They're talking to us. I don't expect to.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Have some kind of a meltdown moment like we did
with Biden. But that's the rules they set, and that's
the rules they eventually had to cave to. So Trump
gets his way and the debate is on September tenth
in Pennsylvania. Meanwhile, Kamala Harris, after thirty seven days or
whatever it's been, is finally going to sit down and
do an interview. And apparently she looked across the conference
room table and said, cannot bring Timmy with me, and

(28:16):
she's going to So the emotional support Vice President will
join Kamala Harris for a first interview, and it turns
out it'll be the unbiased CNN and Dana.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Bash that will conduct the hard hitting interview.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
And Trump is adding RFK Junior and Telsea Gabber to
his presidential transition team. This is getting more and more
interesting by the moment. We also have a White House correspondent,
John Decker. The presidential race could affect the makeup of Congress,
and Johnson been taking a long, hard look at what
could happen. I guess if Kamala Harris wins and how

(28:50):
that would impact They set it in house races below,
and I presume you took a peek at what if
Trump wins, what kind of impact that would have. But yeah,
I'm more interested really in the makeup of Congress. That's
who makes the laws rather than who executes them. So
tell me how does the race impact lower down the ticket.

Speaker 12 (29:11):
Well, you know, this is one of those election cycles
in which I don't think you're going to see, for
the most part, a lot of coattails. Regardless of who
wins the presidential race. Individual voters make individual choices, and
so that means that you could have a Senator like
Sharon Brown in Ohio winning another six year term in

(29:32):
the Senate at the same time that Donald Trump wins
the state of Ohio. That could also be the case
in Montana with John Tester. Donald Trump most certainly will
win the state of Montana. John Tester is someone that
is trying to survive E's deactually a red wave in Montana,
and we'll see if he is successful in that regard.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Well, you bring up Tester, I think that's really the
story today. He is not going to endorse Kamala Harris.
He does not want Kamala is coming anywhere near the
campaign trail with him, so he's trying to distance himself.
I think there's a lot of skeptics out there that
would say if if they pull off that mirage, great,
but if he gets elected, he's going to be a
stamp for her. But yeah, that's the kind of jockey

(30:14):
that's going on. But what you're pointing out is the
differential that there are states where so and so will
win and it's not. I mean, I think in the
case of Ohio that's probably both are almost a certainty
that Donald Trump will carry Ohio. But there's no way
Brown's losing in a while. So, you know, that part
is interesting. You know, I had kicked around something I
wanted to run by you. And we've had waves, right

(30:37):
We had the wave when it looked like, oh, it's
gonna be a really close race and we won't known
till the end. And I was going, it's not gonna
be Joe Biden. People were saying I was crazy. Better
get used to it. It's gonna be a rematch Joe Biden. Well,
Joe exits. I never saw Kamala Harris being the one
I thought they would go with Gavin Newsom, but then
you had the wave after the debate with Biden, where oh,
Trump's gonna win. And then you have the wave of

(30:58):
the Democrat convention where the narrative perceived, oh, Harris has
this in a runaway They've never been more. This is
like Barack Obama kind of unity when you kind of
don't know how does that affect the bottom of the ticket.
Because America loves checks and balances, and if it looks
like a foregone conclusion, Trump's going to win, I say,

(31:18):
advantage of the Democrats. If it looks like Kamala Harris
is going to win, advantage of the Republicans. You can't
have it both ways there either well.

Speaker 12 (31:27):
It's one of those elections as things stand right now,
and you might do right but as things stand right now,
we don't know who's going to win, So you can't
really make that kind of determination if you're a voter
in one of those states. Let me give you one
other state that doesn't get mentioned that often. It's a
blue state. It's Maryland, where you have the former governor
who's a Republican running essentially a dead heat with the

(31:49):
Democratic nominee for the US Senate. That's remarkable and that
could be, indeed be the race that determines who controls
the Senate after the November election. So keep your eye
on that race as well.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
We said yesterday, and I think I might put it
on my most memorable quotes list. Ever, you know, you
really don't know what the game changer is until you
have the game's results, Because if Kamala goes down to win,
we'll say, well, the game changer was Trump never should
have debated Biden in June because Biden would have about it.
But you don't know until the results come in. But
there are always something that becomes the game changer.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
I wonder what it is now in this race.

Speaker 12 (32:29):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know, none of us know. It
could be that second debate, you know, the debate that
will happen, will happen. I'm almost certain on September the
tenth in Philadelphia, we saw how the debate changed the
entire dynamic of this race. Back on June the twenty seventh.
This is another event that we know of that's on
the calendar that could indeed change the dynamics for the

(32:51):
rest of this election cycle.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
If you have a narrative.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
And by the way, we had this with Joe Biden, right,
Joe Biden gets elected, doesn't a press conference for sixty
four days? Then he finally did. So everybody's counting the days.
When is Kamala going to do an interview? I mean,
I almost got to be ridiculous, right, I mean, can't
you get people around a conference table and rightly assess
a moment in a presidential campaign. So now here we
are thirty seven, thirty eight, whatever days it is, and

(33:16):
we finally get the announcement she's going to sit down
with Dana Bash at CNN, right, and she's bringing the
vice president with her. I mean, how did that get
through the conference room?

Speaker 12 (33:26):
Well, she indicated that when she spoke about the idea
of doing an interview by the end of the month,
at the end of the month being August, that it
would be a joint interview. I have no problem with that.
I think I mentioned this who yesterday and Michael, as
long as you also do a solo interview, and that
is something that is not on the schedule right now.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
I don't want to do that because that'll put you
in an awkward position. But things started getting weird with
news conferences. I think in the Obama administration where they
started pre assigning questions and then if you didn't play along,
you didn't get a question.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
But there's people like you out there that are White.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
House correspondents, and if this candidate is unaccessible, you've got
to be scratching your head wondering how accessible, if president,
they will be. I think it's a major unforced error
to use a tennis term. But we'll see. She's bringing
her emotional support VEEP coach Tim with her for her
first interview. You have a great day, John, appreciate our
visits every day. Thank you so much.

Speaker 12 (34:18):
Always appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Thank you, you got it. John Decker, Whitehouse correspondent. You're
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