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to sit down and figure out what's on the breakfast plate.
For this morning, we have Hurricane Francine Now, a tropical
storm north of New Orleans, arrived as a Category two

(01:11):
when making landfall in Louisiana, leaving four hundred thousand plus
without power. So far, it's just a power event. Neilsen reports.
Sixty seven million people watch the showdown Tuesday night between
former President Donald Trump and Vice President Kamala Harris. I
think this is extra interesting because Megan Kelly was probably,

(01:34):
i mean, her career completely changed based on a first
question she asked Donald Trump in a primary debate. And
here's her analysis of what she saw on ABC Tuesday night.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
I'm disgusted.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
I'm disgusted.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
I'm ashamed of those moderators at ABC News. They did
exactly what their boss was wanted them to do. The
person who runs ABC News is a close personal friend
of Kamala Harris, that is responsible for Kamala Harris and
her husband meeting, and they did Dana Walden's bidding tonight.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Is this excuses to make up for Donald Trump's performance?
Or is this another orchestrated event like Lawfair potentially even
assassination attempt like impeachments. Chris Walker is a GOP consultant
and one of our your morning show contributors in joining
us didn't get a chance to get your immediate reaction yesterday,
so let's get it today. My personal opinion, Donald Trump

(02:40):
lost a debate. He was poorly prepared. He got many
he took many many baits, and he had many, many opportunities.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
He didn't seize much of any of them. Uh your
what was your.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Take, Moran, Michael? I couldn't. I couldn't agree more.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
I love him, still going to vote for him, but
you know, I mean I can't see what I didn't see.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
He did not win.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yeah, I mean it was he was angry. I mean,
you know, when we talked about what he needed to
do before the debate, he did none of them. I mean,
he was not focused, he was not disciplined. He did
not talk about the economy. You know, when you're media
bias is not a new thing, right. This is not
some brand new, you know, formula or idea that you

(03:24):
know came out of nowhere. It's part of the equation.
He knew that going in. Everyone on the Republican side
talks about this like ABC News is going to be
an unfair thing. And I think Megan is being a
little hysterical I mean no offense to Megan on the
idea of it, because ultimately that this isn't new information.
It doesn't excuse them, but it also shows that like

(03:44):
from a Republican standpoint, you have to be more disciplined.
You have to understand and the three against one and
not give your opponent's opportunities to take advantage of you.
And and Trump didn't seize that instead of, you know,
kind of being disciplined and talking about social he tried
to a couple of times, but you know, just there

(04:05):
was not an effort to try to not give your
opponents things to use.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
I will say this, you know, I will say this
in defensive reality, and not just Megan Kelly, who, by
the way, is one of the voices I spend a
lot of time listening to.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
She's actually earned that. She's a different Megan Kelly today, and.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
She's every time my wife forces around me sometimes, but
every time I listen, I'm not sorry for it, and
it never wastes my time. Her and Tucker Carlson may
be the only two people I spend any time with
that's out there still speaking. Oh and we brought up
Mike Row. I love micro too, but in her defense,
but more so in the defense of reality.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
This was a new low.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
That was I mean, I talk about in coined the
phrase death of journalism. This was a stinking corpse like
I've never witnessed before. That was the worst example ever.
I mean, I can take you through twenty five lies,
easy lies that they could have picked two three of
them to press Kamala Harris w with and didn't, and
yet took every opportunity to press Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
So I do think this was a new low.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
I don't disagree, but again, you know, you've got to
be able to You've got to be able to get through.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
That, you know.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
I think Jade Vance does a good job sometimes of
going into these hostel interviews and and not taking the
question as asked and being able to kind of pivot
to what you want to talk about. I mean, you know, again,
yes they were unfair, but instead of of you know,
calmly and you know, uh, cogently and and and and

(05:44):
trying to actually like make the case, you know, we're
just kind of swinging at pitches in the dirt, and
you know, that's just not the way to win a debate.
You know, Ultimately the question becomes does it matter. You know,
I think you have an impact a little bit. I mean,
you know, when you're The biggest tiece to me is

(06:04):
the you know, you know, like swinging into some of
the areas of you know, issues and things that we're
talking about, trying to win over moderates and people who
haven't made up their mind in these swing states, you know,
talking about their issues is more important than talking about
Twitter issues. And you know, if you're going to kind

(06:24):
of delve into Twitter territory, you know, I think some
folks are.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Going to go.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
I don't know if that's going to be what I
want to want to be, want to have in my
you know, my living room for the next four years.
I think it will have an impact. I hope that's
not the case.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Strategy when strategizing radio stations and coaching talk show hosts,
I always talked about you got to be unique. If
you're not unique, you're nothing. So be unique and be
true to that uniqueness. Understand that uniqueness and use it.
You have to be entertaining, and you have to be
based in key benefit. The based and key benefit was
the key. If you're on a music station, limit your talk,
make it count, but limit it because their main expectation

(06:58):
is music. The one what you just made is very
very astute. There are two worlds right now, and I'm
not certain that the Internet world isn't worth more. In
other words, it has more influence, i think on voters
than ABCNBCCBS, Fox News, MSNBC and CNN combined. But when
you're on those networks and performing, you have to be

(07:19):
based in that key benefit. And he played an internet
cycle game on a three against one commercial network game.
You're smart to point that out, all right, The question
is what effect will it have? Well, this is interesting
because this is Reuters. Chris Reuters has this story. Kamala
Harris was widely seen as dominating Tuesday's presidential debate against
Republican President Donald Trump, but a group of undecided voters

(07:42):
remained unconvinced that the Democrat Vice president was the better candidate,
even in her good performance, even in his awful performance.
Ten people who were unsure heading into the election, six
afterwards said they would vote for Trump or were leaning
towards Trump. Three said they were now leaning towards That's
a two to one margin in favor of Trump, and

(08:02):
that's while losing a debate, and one still remained hopelessly undecided,
and that's Reuter's And I know it's one group, but
think about that, and I think it's influenced in this way.
I'm voting for Donald Trump, but I thought he was
terrible and I thought ABC was despicable, and I still
planned to vote for Donald Trump had I been even a.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Little bit undecided.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
That probably sublimately is what would have pushed me, even
though he had a bad performance. But never underestimate the
American people, and never underestimate that what this was. No
way donald Trump losing like Joe Biden lost. I think
I hope you agree with that. He may not even
have lost much.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
I mean, I don't think any of it was catastrophic.
And I think, you know, what is it that people
remember from that Candy Crowley debate in twenty twelve, Not
much of the discussion between Bromney and Obama, but more
Dandy Crowley's you know, outrageous fact checking of a Republican
in the middle of the eight I think people will,

(09:02):
you know, over time, you know, remember how unfair ABC was.
I got text from a lot of my family members,
who you know, are obviously voting for Trump and and
you know, are big fans of his saying like they
were being completely unfair and rude to M. It was
a new low. But again, I think you've got to
focus on winning, and winning means, you know, not not

(09:25):
falling into traps being laid to you by people who
want you to lose. I mean, spending ten minutes on abortion,
all on the basis of the Democrat's point of view
and not having a good answer on that is is
a self inshlifted problem that this campaign continues to seem
to find ways to try to not bus solve. And
you picked that, you should say, God.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
I was just gonna say, you picked that one.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
We could have picked fifteen right where he was served
up what I would call softballs and he could not
return it. It's a terrible performance. I don't think it
affected him with his supporters. I think those that are
you know, calling foul on a BC it can be
perceived in an excuse. It's really just their solidarity with Trump.
And for those that turn a blind eyed ABC, which
would be just as ridiculous, they were probably already solid.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Harris. All that matters is what the in between thinks.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Consultant GOP consultant and your Morning show correspondent Chris Walker continuing,
all right, so a second debate. I think if you think,
if Donald Trump really is tired and Donald Trump really
is weakening at debating, I think you leave it up
to JD Vance and you don't want another one? Is
that possibly the strategy here?

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Probably, because he's gonna now this one. I can say
confidently he's gonna eat Walls's lunch.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
I know you're good.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
I know you're gonna say.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah, that's gonna be an ugly debate.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
I mean again, everyone loves to trash Tim Woltz in
the meat. I'm sorry trash jd Vance in the media.
But Tim Waltz is single handled of the worst VP
pick I have ever seen in modern politics. You know,
Kamala picking him because she was afraid to pick Jos
Sapiro because of her left lank of Palestinian Farriss sympathizers

(11:11):
is a real albatross around her. That is, again shows
her lack of qualifications to actually be present. So, you know,
the distractions of the debate and all the other things.
And I think it goes to your point on voiters.
You know, yeah, Trump had a bad debate, but you
know the strength that Trump emotes and the you know
seriousness with which which we have problems facing the country.

(11:34):
You know Trump, uh for pardon the pun, you know,
any kind of style points on a on a rig
debate for lack of a better words. So you know, yes,
we can you know, kind of look at it and say, goodness,
gracious when I missed opportunity. But you know, keep her
eye on the prize here. Let's get votes out to
win this election is ultimately that's what's going to have
to happen. And frustration from it is it's like this

(11:57):
is a it's an easy layup and I hate seeing
easy lamps getting missed because anybody could see this coming
from a mile away, and yet we seem to like
not be able to like take advantage of it. That's
a frustrating part to me about it.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah, I think somebody felt like they didn't need to
prepare and could just show up and they were wrong.
All right, So yeah no, But I mean but here's
my final say, and that is it doesn't seem to
me like there needs to be a second debate because
the runway is so short. There really isn't a lot

(12:33):
of time for it, and I think the time is
better spent. I mean to really move people in those states.
For me, If i'm camp Trump, I'm using RFK Tulsea
Gabbard in jd Vance and the President and I am
laser focused on North Carolina and Georgia, maybe even conceding
Pennsylvania and securing Nevada and Arizona. But North Carolina has

(12:59):
a lot of my attention. And I think I let
for a national TV debate, let jd vance because keep
this in mind, jd Vance. It used to be the
natural trajectory was governor to president. Jack Kennedy was the
rare exception as a senator. But the way things have
gone today, governors have really sunk in terms of notoriety

(13:21):
and leadership and understanding and quality. Quite frankly, an average
senator every day is up to date on all the
issues that are going to be brought up in this debate.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
A governor is not. It's a huge advantage. Let alone,
it's a.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Yale law graduate who is very skilled at arguing it
should be, it should be, it should be so ugly,
I would let that be the only national TV event left.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah, and I mean it's just like an other thing
numbers because at the end of the day, it's VP,
and it just it just doesn't matter nearly as much as.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Well, sixty seven million watch this and it doesn't seem
to matter for ten and a panel even though he
did bad.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
So, you know, fair fair enough. I mean I think
that the the viewership numbers are lower. I mean, VP
debates generally just don't have the same op because people
are voting for president. So, you know, I think that's right.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
The way President Trump performed Tuesday night, I don't give
him a second chance to perform that bad two could
be enough to swing it.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
This is Your Morning Show with Michael del Chuna.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Donald Trump says the moderators during the ABC debate in
Philadelphia helped Kamala Harris, Mark Mayfield has more.

Speaker 6 (14:26):
Trump said he won the debate.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
But this one was stacked.

Speaker 6 (14:31):
I figured it would be after watching one hundred percent
positive coverage of her. He added, he's getting great reviews.
He said that because he won, he's not sure if
he should do another debate with Harris or Mark Mayfield.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Well, he thinks he won the debate, his shareholders didn't win. Apparently,
Trump Media stock shares in the company that owns the
former president's True social platform plummeted seventeen percent after the debate.
It increased after the debate with Joe Biden, perhaps honestly
an indication maybe things didn't go so well. About one

(15:05):
in four Gen Z and Millennial adults say in a
new survey they will not be having children.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Tammy Tricheo has.

Speaker 7 (15:11):
More they're citing financial reasons. A new survey from mass
Mutual claims twenty three percent of adults ages eighteen to
forty three find to remain childless because they're concerned about
their ability to afford children. Many also claim they like
the financial freedom of not having kids. It's the first
survey from mass Mutual to ask millennials and Gen Z
adults there are reasons for not having children, So it's

(15:34):
not clear yet if it's a trend. I'm Tammy Triheo.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Well, it's been a long trend. Let's hope it's just
their age. They'll change their mind when they get a
little bit older. New Yorkers founded the twenty third anniversary
of September eleventh, and gree committed themselves to never forget
Natalie Migliori reports.

Speaker 8 (15:49):
Gabriel Gabrieli walked up to the nine to eleven Memorial
with a bouquet of flowers as she and thousands of
others went to honor the victims lost in the nine
to eleven terrorist attacks. She brought sun flowers to her
godfather and her uncle who died that day.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
So sunflowers to me bring me joy, and they also
are a symbol of spirituality and finding the light when
there's so much darkness.

Speaker 8 (16:12):
Seemingly setting aside their differences, to honor the victims of
nine to eleven, President Biden, Vice President Harris, former New
York City Mayor Bloomberg, and former President Trump all sat
in the same row. I'm Natalie Magliori, NBC.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Three supposed to be a had a bad day politically
endorsing Magena fig Knight. At the MTV Video Music Awards
in New York, Swift won the award for Video of
the Year for Fortnite featuring post Malone. She directed the
video and won Best Direction, and her and post Malone
also won Best Collaboration. In addition, Swift took home the
award for Artist of the Year and Best Pop Artist

(16:48):
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right thirty five minutes after the hour if you're just
waking up. Francene did make landfall and made landfall as
a category two. Now just a tropical storm north of
New Orleans with a lot of rain headed to the
middle of the country. Nielsen reports sixty seven million people
watch the show down between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris.

(17:38):
Of course it was hosted by ABC and on the
ABC network, but all the major networks and all the
cable networks, and it looks like election officials across the
country are very concerned that changes at the US Postal Service.
Couldn't delay ballots all Could the election come down to Pennsylvania?
Could have come down to North Carolina? Could it come
down to the US post Office? Royo Neil very tall,

(18:00):
six ' six. I wonder how he would have looked
in a Postal Service pair of shorts, probably dashing Rory's
here because our hopes are dimming for a more aggressive
FED rate cut. You're pulling an Aaron Ray out today, Hui.
You're leading with the bad news.

Speaker 9 (18:14):
What but honest, well, I'm trying not to. It's still
a rate cut. Let's look at the positive side that way, right.
Most had expected that perhaps the Fed would try to
be a bit aggressive with a half point cut next
week instead, after seeing the I won't call it hot,
let's call it warm inflation numbers yesterday with the CPI,
they're thinking, okay, maybe probably just a quarter point. But

(18:35):
look the Dow tank down six hundred points yesterday for
a time before rebounding to close up nearly seventy.

Speaker 6 (18:42):
So you can see.

Speaker 9 (18:43):
September is always a month of uncertainty, and there's more now,
all right.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
So I don't think anybody would have prognosticated that rate cuts,
significant rate cuts, the feeling of happy days are here again,
and movement in the house market would help any other
one candidate over another, so to speak.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
But it will be no influence between now and November.

Speaker 9 (19:06):
Doesn't look yeah, especially if it's only a quarter point.
I think that's going to be more temperate.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
But definitely going in the right direction. All right.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
So there's all this squabble, by the way, and I
do want to clarify something. I'm not making fun of
postal workers. I'm one of the few Italians, full blooded Italians,
with a middle name Howard. How that happened because my
my grandmother's second husband, which was necessary, was Howard Elmer
and he was German, and that's and I am proud

(19:37):
to have that middle name. And he spent his entire
life after World War Two in the United States post office.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
So every time I mom and the postman.

Speaker 9 (19:46):
So okay, now.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
That was Rory, No, that was the milkman. But anyway,
so I love postal workers. It's is this election is
just getting so crazy, and the notion that you know,
we get all we dodg.

Speaker 9 (20:00):
Watched the space walk Did you just watch the spacewalks?

Speaker 3 (20:03):
No?

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Because I'm on the air, and I should turn my
TV on. Did the millionaire go the billionaire go yet?

Speaker 9 (20:09):
Yep, they just did. They just and they both came
back inside. So they're repressurizing as we speak.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
So that just happened. Can you imagine.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Do you think there's somebody somewhere saying that's all a hoax?

Speaker 9 (20:21):
Probably probably is, but yeah, and there, and they're saying
it on X the platform owned by the guy who
paid for that would be.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
The irony of it, all right, So I just wanted
to get because I'm not sure sure if you have
a heart out at thirty nine, so I want to
get this in. So now both sides are arguing over
who won the debate. Look, I'm honest, I think all
you do good Kamala clearly won and ABC was clearly
purely despicable and helping her win. So I don't know

(20:50):
that that's much of a fight. What do you make
of all this battle now over who won and battle
over whether or not to have a second debate?

Speaker 9 (20:57):
Well, I think it's all of it's going to die
off starting tomorrow in that we're still you know people
that was sixty seven million watched. Then it was all
in our social media feeds yesterday, and I think we're
just going to start moving on after that. Yeah, I
think I move findential debate. I just don't think this.
I mean, yes, I agree with your assessment there, but

(21:18):
it also doesn't I don't think have legs well.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
No, And because the majority of voices, this is what
I never hear anybody say. This is kind of smart stuff.
Normally you bring up but you know they've got a
firm opinion. All right, So you're already for Kamala Harris,
You're already for Donald Trump. So you're sharing all the
clips of Donald Trump doing well and not the ones
that I'm doing poorly.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
If you love Kamala Harris.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
You're showing those clips if we're talking about abortion in
a woman's body. And of course, if you're Trump fan,
you're wishing Trump would have said, oh, but you have
no problem taking our gun away or telling us where
we can live or what we can drive, or whether
we can work when you shut us down.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
But none of that happened.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
So it really is in life anymore, it's not about
the event. It's about that spin room that I hate
and what it spins up.

Speaker 9 (22:03):
Well, and I think that, you know, these other ballot
issues I think are going to be very important. You know,
we're seeing the race clothes in Florida. I still think
Donald Trump is going to win Florida. But you've got
marijuana an abortion on the ballot, that may you throw
a wren shit. So I think it's issues like that,
or a hot congressional race or a race for governor.
I think that and then whether or not that makes

(22:23):
people go vote, because as we've talked about before, especially
when it was Trump Biden and no one wanted anything
to do with this election and we're just going to
stay home. But now, if abortion is on the ballot,
if marijuana is on your ballot, if there's a hot
race for a city council or a bond reference, that
may actually make people go out to vote more so
than the top of the ticket.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Your morning show correspondent Roy O'Neil, I got the two
seventy to win MAP up and now this much I
will tell you. I'm not a Republican or a Democrat.
By the way, I think both parties are a big
part of the problem. I am going to vote for
Donald Trump. I'm not going to lie to you about that.
But I'm looking at this map, and I will say this.
I always respect Democrats. They play the ground game very smart.

(23:06):
And I noticed the debate's over Trump's over on the
west coast in Arizona, and you know, obviously he needs Arizona, Nevada.
But I'm looking for them to use Telsea Gabbard, JD Vance,
RFK Junior as well as Trump and sprawl out, where
do the Democrats go?

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Straight to North Carolina?

Speaker 1 (23:25):
If I give North Carolina to Kamala Harris, she gets
to two seventy eight, you can give Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania
all to her, and then you end up with that
two sixty nine versus two sixty nine and Nebraska decides it.
But if she takes North Carolina, it's over. It seems
like people aren't paying enough attention. This race is Pennsylvania,

(23:48):
North Carolina.

Speaker 9 (23:51):
And yeah, certainly Pennsylvania, and yeah, okay, I'll.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Live there, live there. I mean, why aren't they living there?
I mean, yeah, you got to sure up Arizona. But
look at where they both go after the debate. One
goes to North Carolina, one goes to Arizona. I'd have
our FK I'd have JD Vance back and forth between
Michigan and Pennsylvania, Telsey Gabbard and OURFK in North Carolina, Arizona, Nevada.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
And then I'd have I'd have.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
The president living in Pennsylvania, North Carolina because there's in Georgia.
I mean, it's necessary, but I don't know, I don't know,
maybe I'm overthinking at all.

Speaker 9 (24:23):
But then but this distraction of the cats and the
dogs and the Springfield and I mean, what are we
doing well again? I mean, I will give Mickey Haley credit.
She said, you know, talk about the issues, because when
you talk about the issues, you win on the issues.
And you know, I just think all this other distraction
stuff and then JD Vance doesn't back that, like change

(24:45):
the topic. Why are we talking about that? My whole
social media themes are filled with jokes about dogs and
cats leaving Springfield. And you know, my favorite one I
did laugh out loud was the picture of the cat
and knocking of GOP logo off a shelf. If that
was funny, Oh.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
No, mine was Donald Trump, you know, looking like you know,
Arnold Schwartzen, nigger Sylvester Stallone with two cats. I'm telling
you and I felt that way watching watching that debate.
How many times did you think, oh my god, this
is a joke. Okay, you know I told David Zanatti,
look how far we've come from Fdr Truman, Kennedy, Reagan.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Look I said it this way.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Look how far we've come from Gerald Ford and Barack Obama.
I mean, I don't know what this. There's probably a
general disgust in both.

Speaker 9 (25:33):
I would think, bring back Admiral Stockdale. I know Ross
Peron was the was the level head of one of
that those debates.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
Remember Stockdale. Oh my gosh, bad memories all right now?

Speaker 1 (25:44):
And all I can do is I can't get two
things out of my head one and then we googled it.
My wife and I used to do this google crazy
things to think, just to see if we were the
first that ever thought of it.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
And it's always there.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
So somebody's got a sicker mind than wherever our sick
mind goes. But the whole time I'm watching the debate,
I could not get over. And by the way, and
I don't mean this because I know you get the
misogynist radar. I thought Kamra Harris was very, very attractive
her first round I think she's had some surgeries that
have changed her appearance a little bit. And the whole
time during that debate, all I could see was Caesar Romero,

(26:18):
the joker from the Batman TV series.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
And then we googled it and it's a thing.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
It's already out there people that find her looking just
like Caesar Romero. So, but there are two worlds, the
Internet and then the mainstream media, and you can't play
Internet crazy stuff, even though it may be more influential
in these days, you can't play that when you're on
major networks doing a debate.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Thank you for this sound effect.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
All right, Rory, I know you want to distance yourself
from me right now with that Caesar Romero.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
I'll give you that chance. All right, Roan to.

Speaker 9 (26:52):
Join those astronauts.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
Yeah, what does a.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Six foot six guy and male shorts look like orbiting
the Earth?

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Orri Oneil will.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Be back to talk about Hurricane Franccene in an hour, first.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
Type of your top five stories of the day. Well,
it's not misogynistic. She does look like you got a
Mitch this like SE's a Romero. It's uncanny, isn't it.
I don't mean I thought I was the only one
that was seeing it. I wasn't gonna say it out loud.
And then we google and there's like videos on Yeah,
there's a video out there. Hey look he he's a
good looking guy. He's a romero and he was a
great joker. He was a great joker. Uh.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Top five stories of today. Well, clearly the debate now
is over a who won the debate? And b whether
we'll debate again. They were even fighting about fighting. Mark
Mayfield has Today in politics.

Speaker 6 (27:42):
A rematch between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris is up
in the air. Shortly after Tuesday's debate, the Harris campaign
called for another, but as of late Wednesday, Trump was
still on the fence.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
We won the debate according to every poll, every single poll.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
I think that are we going to do a rematch?

Speaker 9 (27:57):
I just don't know.

Speaker 6 (27:58):
Nearly every poll indicated that Harris won the debate. Trump
says a fighter who loses always immediately asks for a rematch.
A swipe of the Harris campaign. There are several debates
on the table being offered by NBC, Fox and others.
An initial viewership number show ratings soared for the first
debate between Vice President Harris and former President Trump. Nielsen
reports more than sixty seven million people watched the showdown

(28:20):
on Tuesday across the four major networks and four cable
news channels. In comparison, just over fifty one million tune
in for the June debate between Trump and President Biden.
The final total for the Harris Trump debate is unlikely
to break records. However, the most watched debate ever was
the first between Trump and Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen,
which drew eighty four million viewers. That's politics, I'm Mark Mayfield.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
New Yorkers and even political leaders showed great solidarity and
recommitted themselves to never forgetting September eleventh attacks, and the
names were read by a new generation. Natalie Migliori reports, this.

Speaker 8 (28:53):
Couple has come to ground zero to commemorate the loved
ones and coworkers they lost. Never missing a year.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
Three years, We're here every time, every time.

Speaker 8 (29:02):
Twenty three years later, and names are read by children
who never met their parent or grandparent, aunt or uncle.
Some family members still too emotional to give interviews. But
Mary Ellen, who lost her brother Thomas, says lawmakers have
taken long enough to make nine to eleven a national holiday.

Speaker 6 (29:19):
The fact that our government and our country doesn't recognize
this day as a solemn day of morning like many
other holidays, just makes no sense to me.

Speaker 8 (29:28):
I Natalie Migliori, NBC News Radio, New York.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Well, there's nothing I cherish more than life, So a
great life story is always worth our time. Tennessee police
are praising singer John bon Jovi for helping save a
woman's life this week. Bon Jovi was in Nashville filling
a music video on a bridge. He noticed a woman
holding on to the outside of the rail, possibly ready
to jump. Bon Jovin, a member of his team approached

(29:53):
the woman, talked to her for several minutes before helping
her back on the sidewalk. She and bon Jovi embrace
before leaving the bridge together. Police confirm she was taken
to a local hospital for treatment. Nashville metropd thanked bon Jovi,
saying it takes all of.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
Us to help keep each other safe. What a great story.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Hey, this is Top Cop Kathy Hinters, and my morning
show is your morning show with Michael dale Jorno.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
All that matters not where you're at, but that we're
here together.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Hurricane Francine arrived at category two now a tropical storm
north of Nola, and Nielsen reports sixty seven million people
watched Tuesday Night's debate, and now the big fight is
who won and will there be another? I think I
know who won, and I really don't care if there
is another. But this poor guy's gotta follow whoever wins.

(30:45):
John Decker is a White House correspondent, he is a
Supreme Court bar attorney, and he is a valued Your
Morning show correspondent.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
John.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Anybody think there's going to be a second debate because
I can't fathom it from either side.

Speaker 5 (30:59):
Yeah, I don't think there's going to be a second debate.
And I think that the only time we'll see Donald
Trump and Kamala Harris on the same stage at the
same time is what we saw on Tuesday night. That's
it for the remainder of this campaign. Donald Trump is
indicated that he thinks he won. That's what he says publicly.
What's the point in having another debate? That's his attitude.

(31:22):
Although he said he'd be open took potentially to doing
a debate on NBC or Fox, But I think that's
just talk. I think that what we saw is what
we saw on Tuesday night, and as you point out,
fifty seven million people or whatever, the number was pretty Yeah,
number saw the debate and will make their own determinations
as to whether or not that will impact their decision

(31:44):
in terms of who they vote for for this presidential election.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
By the way, that's a first. I got to correct
John Decker. It was sixty seven million.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
John.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
I've never corrected a bar juja. All right, so let
me ask you this. You said you were in Philadelphia
and there was the entire prep debate team for Kamala Harris,
of which you're terrible at eavesdropping. I mean, you didn't
hear a thing, but they looked very confident. Well, they
had reason to for Donald Trump. I mean, we do

(32:15):
the Donald Trump side, let's do the Kamala Harris side.
I smelled a rat yesterday. There's no way she wanted
a second debate, act like it, taunt him like it,
just to you know, build the momentum of a debate victory.
The reality is she's got everything to lose and nothing
to win having a second one. So I don't think
there's any interest for her, but there might be, because

(32:36):
they don't probably won't be watched as much, granted, but
they probably don't like the matchup with Walls versus JD.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
Vance. Oh.

Speaker 5 (32:44):
I don't know. We'll see, you know. I mean they
have different styles for sure. That's coming up October the first,
in New York City, hosted by BBS News. You know,
you never can predict what's going to happen. I didn't
predict what was going to happen in terms of Tuesday Night.
I was surprised, you know. I think that the Vice

(33:04):
President far exceeded expectations. So I can't tell you what's
going to happen when it's JD. Vans against Tim Walls
on October the first. We'll just have to wait and
see what that matchup looks like.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
We have one minute, but I want to get you
to chime in on this. I got my two seventy
to win map out and I am giving Kamala Harris Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania.
And once I do that, just to show you, I
really think that this race. I nobody's ready to concede
Pennsylvania yet.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
I get that.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
But presuming I give it to her, it really is
crystal clear that it becomes and this assumes that Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
Can Cary Novat in Arizona. I will give that to
him and the rest to Kamala Harris. I got news
for you. North Carolina is huge and that's whe Kamala's headed.

Speaker 4 (33:51):
Well.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
North Carolina at that point is the game changer.

Speaker 5 (33:55):
Well, to me, you know, I do that map I
several times a day. It's like one of.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
My It's too fun.

Speaker 5 (34:03):
Yeah, it's too fun. And you know, I think it's
way too early personally, Michael, to fill in that map
as it relates to the state of Pennsylvania in particular.
I mean to me, you know, maybe you had a
gun to your head and you said, I gotta fill
it out.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Well, that's what you do with the map. But I'm
saying I think she's smart. We're down to ten seconds.
I think she's very smart to go to North Carolina.

Speaker 5 (34:24):
Yeah, well, I agree, and North Carolina really quickly was
a state that Donald Trump thought at the convention was
a slam dunk for him and changed dramatically.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
We're all in this together. This is your Morning Show
with Michael Nhelchow and No
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