September 16, 2024 • 34 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Two three starting your morning off right, A new way
of talk, a new way of understanding because we're in
this together. This is your Morning Show with Michael del john.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Six minutes after the hour. Thanks for waking up with
your morning show on the air and streaming live on
your iHeartRadio app. I am Michael del Jorno, Happy to
serve you. Jeffrey Lyons got the board and real in
a moment, A suspect is in custody after what the
FBI is calling an apparent assassination attempt on former President
Donald Trump. That makes two. An original member of the
Jackson five is dead. Tito at the age of seventy
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after an apparent heart attack. The Bear Hacks and Showgun
the big winners last night at the Emmy Awards, and
despite a third concussion to us as he's going nowhere.
He will return as the quarterback of the Miami Dolphins.
And former President Donald Trump reportedly has a road map
for taking woke out of the American education system. Well,
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it has become more in doctrination than an education, and
it has certainly been failing for decades in preparing kids
for the workforce or for higher education. But wokeness and
what is the plan? That's what we need to hear.
And Aaron Rayal is here with that reality. Good morning, Aaron.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Hi.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Yes, wokeness out, at least when it comes to the
Trump administration and the Education Department. In fact, in speeches,
Trump has repeated the pledged to abolish the Education Department.
So one strategy that he would use he would launch
a civil rights investigation into schools that have supported transgender rights,
racial diversity programs. And he also wants to use the
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college accreditation system and scale back its diversity goals. A
popular one which is less less of an impact, but
also a profound impact. Let me just get to it.
The universal school choice. This is interesting. This has support
on both sides, which is why I think it's the
most interesting. So it's basically giving money to parents to
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send their kid wherever they want. It's very popular in Arizona.
It takes federal funding dollars away from the public school system.
But there is a large and strong argument to be
made that not every child learns the same way, so
having a one size fit all education system will not work.
But giving the people the money to make the power,
it puts the power in their hands and make decisions
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for what's right for their Family's popular on both sides
of the aisle.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, you'd be surprised how many Republicans, though especially moms,
have a problem with this one. And again yes, yeah,
because it ends up being okay. Well, we normally say
competition breeds excellence, but not here. And if you start
doing this and people start, I would do it. I
would cut to the chase this way. One of the
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biggest problems, bigger than the problems that we discuss and
try to solve, is the extreme division in this country
far left far right. There's no middle anymore, and the
two can't even communicate. Wouldn't this even create that more.
And I have been a long proponent for school choice,
for competition, and for fairness. But there are a lot
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of things involved here. If you live in a great city,
you probably live in that city because it has good schools,
it has a good police department in low crime, and
it has a lot of affordable, great neighborhoods to live in,
and it's near a lot of jobs. So you know,
can you achieve that? You would think that the fixing
and getting there was a time before nineteen seventy nine
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where the federal government didn't have its fingers in education,
and I think its fingers have caused a lot of problems.
I think we need to get its fingers out of
it without necessarily doing this and it. But this is
a debate. My main point is that hasn't been hashed
out at a lot of levels. And so anybody saying
I'm just going to completely get rid of it or
I'm going to do nothing, is the only two unacceptable things.
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Does that make sense? Okay?
Speaker 5 (04:14):
No?
Speaker 4 (04:14):
But that's like, this is the thing that bugs most people,
Like I truly believe this. I think most people are reasonable.
I know, crazy, mind boggling, but I think that if
you like, give them the sides of both things. They
just want it to work. We just want to have
to work, man.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
But it's not working. It's not worth it's not working.
In terms of graduation level, we're not getting smarter, we're
getting dumber. We're falling behind the rest of the world.
Kids are not prepared for higher education of post COVID,
they won't be prepared at all. They're going to be
living in remedial courses. So it is failing and that
needs to be addressed. Wokeness is a part of that.
They should be about education and not in doctrination. And
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I would warrn everybody, especially people even your age. If
you think when your kids start school it's going to
be the same textbooks and the same curriculum and the
same ex experience as you had, you might want to
think again. It's unrecognizable. So it does need to be addressed,
and needs to be addressed by all and collectively. That's
something that we're only like Aaron I say this all
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the time and nobody likes hearing it. But we're narrative repeaters,
that's all we are. And if we've got a problem,
it's not so much what we're sending to Washington. It's
who's sending it to Washington. We should look in the
mirror because we haven't tackled this in the meantime. You know,
people make tough choices like, well, my taxes go to
the public school that's failing. My kids with my extra
money and the sacrifices that we're making are going to
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a private school. That's kind of where we're at. Is
there a better place? Besides wokeness is in the eye
of the beholders. So how's America going to decide what's woke?
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Yeah, listen, I agree with you on everything you just said.
And as a mother with kids going to school, I
don't know how to fix this one. Like education is
so hard because not everyone is the same. And if
you're not, like, let's take woke out of it, let's
take transgender out of it, to hyperbolic it gets people
too fired up. Let's just think about educating the populace
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so that we're better on a global stage, like know
this stuff type like that, Let's let's talk about arithmetic
more than like gender identity, because in so many ways,
like we're just getting lost.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
But Karon, this this applies to education. This applies to business,
this applies to faith, This applies to every aspect of life.
Passion equals focus. We will focus on what we're passionate about.
So passion equals focus. Focus leads to action. Action, set
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in motion, a direction. A direction arrives at a destination.
If your passion. And there's a lot of people whose
passion is wokeness and social engineering, not preparing for college,
not preparing for citizenship, not preparing for the workforce. It
leads to to conflicting actions. But how do you eat
an elephant one bite at a time. But you got
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to decide the right first bite. Everybody goes to the
dramatic last bite to try to sell the first bite,
and that never works. So all this chaos just leads
to no action, which leads to continued failed education and
along the way, continued WOCs and chaos. Too tough one,
tough one you had today, But at least it wasn't
bad news. It was reality news. M H.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
Very true.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
In action, of course is the bad news, Aaron real
great reporting today. We'll talk again tomorrow thirteen minutes after
the hour. Joining us now is Chris Walker, who is
the consultant and analyst for the Republican Party and a
Your Morning Show contributor. Well, now a second, I guess,
you know, unless the people that are splitting hairs, I
guess you have to shoot the president for it to
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be called an assassination attempt. This was clearly an attempt.
It was just thwarted before he got a shout off,
which thank god for. But this is a second now
against Donald Trump. It begs the question is there going
to be a third? Is there going to be a fourth?
Is it possible to keep this man healthy and protected
until election day?
Speaker 6 (08:01):
Yeah, morning, Michael, it's uh, you know, it's definitely a.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
You know it.
Speaker 6 (08:06):
It was a bad day yesterday. But thank going to
Secret Service not waiting until shots were fired, but you know,
taking taking the initiative this time, which is you know,
a a positive step, but unfortunately a very very you know,
four steps back in terms of the rhetoric and the
uh you know, kind of willingness of some of these
folks to kind of go to the most extreme level
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to try to affect politics.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Well, the name of the show is your Mind Show,
and I'm just the host. But let me be the
bad guy. So let me get this straight twice. Now
somebody's tried to kill former President Donald Trump, and we
think we got to beef up security for everybody. I
think the priority should be Donald Trump. That's who everybody
keeps aiming guns at. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
We we've we hadn't had a shot taken a president
of forty plus years, and now you've had two and
two months. You know, this is this is just completely unsustainable.
I think it just it goes to show that you know,
when you when you threatening somebody and say that they
are next essential threat to democracy, you know somebody's some
folks are going to listen to that and not see
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it as hyperbole.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
But as oh, I've been told, I've been told nuts
is nuts, and we don't know what motivates nuts. Sometimes
don't take anything to motivate nuts. So it doesn't matter
if you call him a dictator, a friend of a dictator,
a tyrant, an insurrectionist, a rapist to fell in, a
threat to democracy itself. That doesn't have any role in this.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Well.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
I mean, you know, I think you're being facetious, but.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Uh, oh, I'm being facetious.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
I know, I know I'm kidding.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I just the others aren't though. And by the way,
since when does the left not focus on the gun.
Here's a guy in two thousand and two arrested for
having a weapon of mass destruction in a in a shootout,
barricaded stand off with police. He's convicted, and nobody's saying,
how do he get a gun? They never care about
how these people get guns if they're aimed at Trump. There,
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I said that out loud. Let me be the bad guy.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
Yeah, I think the uh, the rhetoric yesterday was particularly loathsome,
just in terms of, you know, this is somehow Trump's fault,
for the for the for the temperature being raised, and
this is what happens. And you know, you've seen a
bunch of Democrats saying just ridiculously bad things that you know,
almost like that he brought this on himself. You know,
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it's just it's it's gross, it's evil, it's uh, it's
it's the raw and you know, unabashed pursuit of power
with uh, with with nothing getting in standing in the
way of their efforts to to try to acquire power.
It's it's gross and it needs to stop. But again,
thank goodness for the Secret Service. And you know, maybe
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this time, we could see a little bit of a
decline of the rhetoric overall. But I'm not holding my
breath this. We're fifty days out from an election and
there's a lot more ads than other stuff to come out.
So because we're not going to do interviews or anything else.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
So Republican consultant analyst Chris Walker, our weekly visit. Uh,
this is this is projectile vomiting inducing during breakfast time.
But here's the headline in the Washington Post. Can you
imagine if one of their candidates had been shot at once,
let alone twice attempted assassinations? Headline, Washington Post FBI investigating
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Trump golf course episode as a potential assassination attempt. Like,
all we can confirm is it was an episode, you know,
like a double bogie, triple bogee, a gun pointed at
you an episode. I mean, this is And by the way,
Joe Biden over the weekend talking to the Congressional Black
Caucus once again stating that the soul of democracy is
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at stake at this election. Now nobody wants to play that.
Sound clips are playing obscure, ridiculous clips from Kamala Harris instead.
But I think rhetoric matters. I think it's not a
coincidence that there's been two attempts on a candidate's life
and they've both been Donald Trump, And it makes me
very curious and worried that there's a third and a
fourth coming.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
I mean, I love you, but I hope you're wrong.
But I mean you may not be, but you know,
I hope that this can somehow lead to some soul searching.
And frankly, it'd say soul searching on both sides. Let's
not let's all kind of take a step back and
not let politics be the end all be all here. Like,
there's a lot of things that need to be addressed
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in this country, but a lot of it has to
do with the kind of the inability of either side
to talk to each other and have an honest or
you know, just kind of a you know, a loving
conversation without it turning into this kind of rhetoric driven
I mean, this is this is not I don't want
to both sides it because it's not a both sides
of that situation, but we have to we both need
to take stock and figure out how to lower the
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temperature in this country. We're tearing each other apart, and
I think that's what our enmities really want us to
be doing. Well.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah, and right now it's leading to dysfunction, chaos, and
two assassination attempts, but it could still lead to a
true a real not what they create a January sixth,
but a real insurrection or a real civil war, which
is even more than the killing.
Speaker 6 (13:02):
Which is exactly what China and Russia would love to
see happen. So I mean, in some regards, let's look
inward and decide no, you know, no moths as mikes.
You know, let's figure out how to do it.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
The only other thing I had that I was going
to kick around with you prior to the assassination attempted
some new polling coming out of Iowa. They're making a
big deal out of it in the leftist media. The
reality is Donald Trump still leads in Iowa by five
six points, and that's with the margin of ERA four
or five points. But the tightening of a race in
a place where people would have thought was solid for
Donald Trump, well, I could say the same for Virginia.
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I could say the same for I could say the
same for New York and New Jersey. I think people
are going to be a shocked at how close this
is a lot of places.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
Yeah, I mean, you know, anyone trying to make Iowa
into a swing state is silly. And that's that's that.
I did not see the poll certificate, but I did
see the headline kind of percolating on social media a
little bit over the weekend. You know, look, Pennsylvania is
it's you know, Michigan and Wisconsin are basically tied. Georgia
North Carolina are ties, So that's where the real efforts
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going to be. You know, I would like North sclining
to be a little more red, but right now it's not.
So you know, we got it. We got to focus
on those and you know, figure out how we win
and ultimately that that leads to talking about and I
hate to say it today after yesterday, but I mean
again this you kind of have to litigate the policy,
not the person. And so from a standpoint of the
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of the failures that we've seen from the Biden Hairs administration,
you know, take the personal out, fine, still a lot
of failures. I mean, you know, I see my credit
card statement and my grocery bills going up remarkably high
over the last three years compared to three years ago,
and you know, those are the things that people need
to decide. This is what we're voting on, this is
what we care about, and you know, without anger or hostility,
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but just you know, a sober realization that this these
decisions really matter, and you can you can vote for
someone who will make your life better and more free,
or you could vote for someone who you know continues
to have a top down government, solution oriented administration. And
we just which one is not.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
This is laughable right out loud to discuss school choice
in thirty seconds. But did you hear any of what
Aaron and I were going over.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
I've listened a little bit of the end, yes, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
The point being that this is a very complex topic.
We're always trying to eat the elephant one bite at
a time, but we always start with the last bite,
not the first bite. There's a lot of things that
have gone wrong since the government, federal government got its
fingers in the education plate back in nineteen seventy nine.
Wokeness is just one of the many things that have
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gone wrong. But to just go to abolish or just
go to something big, that's not the way to have
the discussion, not if you really plan to move forward
in a direction that's going to do right by our kids.
And I'm for school I agree with you, but.
Speaker 6 (15:52):
I also have to consider, well, I agree with you
in the sense you said like you've always been in
favor of school choice, to introduce competition. I agree with that.
You know the devil's and the details as it isn't
in every situation. But you know, in fay the idea
of bringing stuff out of the federal government and out
of centralized control and more localizing it, which has been
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against the trend in the last forty years, is a key.
When education is producing worse and worse outcomes, you have
to start figuring out how to do it again. This
the generation that produced the Man on the Moon. You
know the majority of them study in single room classrooms
in the you know, the thirties and twenties. You know,
the bureaucraization of education has not made a better.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Product, no, no question. What I'm saying LOCALI well, how
did we get to the moon with a clear vision?
How did we get to the moon? Explaining every step
of that vision and why that needs to be done.
You can't cut right to abolish or end right, or
that just gets everybody's fears up and nothing happens. That
was going to be my main point.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
This is your Morning Show with Michael Del Trono.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Can I start with a different twist. I want to
thank God for protecting Donald Trump again yesterday as a
suspect is in custody after the FBI is calling it
an apparent assassination attempt on Donald Trump. An original member
of the Jackson five is dead. I won't leave you
hanging as Tito and Bear hacks and showguns the big
winner at the Emmys, and I've watched all three of
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his concussions. My advice for TWOA would be to retire.
He says, no way, I'm going to play. And that's
just some of the top stories. I can't disguise this.
Kent Evans is what I would call a dear friend,
a voice and a sea of voices that must be heard.
He does tremendous work with fathers. This latest book is
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not geared just to fathers. In fact, it's geared to
everyone listening. Don't bench yourself. It's his fourth book, How
to stay in the game even when you want to quit,
because sometimes when you quit, you think you're punishing yourself,
but you're really punishing those who need you most. Kent,
Good morning, and welcome to your morning show. And tell
us why you wrote the book. Are you seeing a
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lot of people benching themselves?
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Man, Michael, First, thank you for having me on. Brother,
It's always a pleasure to talk with you. And yes,
I and myself and a lot of people that I
know are tempted to withdraw from critical areas of life
because of the pressures and the challenges around them. They
get kind of swallowed up by the game of life
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and then they want to just walk off the field.
And we got to help them stop doing that.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah, and I listen. I think there are a lot
of people right now listening. I would my guests would
be and you're the author. I'll just be the host.
But they're getting sick of politics and their involvement. Of course,
in a nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice
for all, you have to stay engaged as a citizen.
You cannot, my favorite scripture, grow weary in doing good.
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But I think what we're more concerned about here is
people that are giving up on their marriage, people that
are giving up on their children, people that gave up
on their vocation. I know I have felt that way
about talk radio in the past. What's most common, It
really depends on each individual, because it's all the above, right.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Well, there are several reasons we tend to do it right.
One is fear. We're afraid of being called on to
maybe the bigger field. Maybe you just became a dad
and you think, man, I can never do this dad thing.
Or you just got married and you think I don't
know how to be a good wife, and so you
get concerned. Or maybe you feel shameful. Maybe you tried
and it didn't work out great, and so you've made
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some errors in the game of life and you figure
you'll quit. Or criticism got to you. You took too
much criticism, or maybe it's impatience. That's me, right, I
want to put in effort on a Monday and get
all my results on a Tuesday. And when those things
don't work out right, we tend to just walk off
the field. We go to hobbies. To your point, we
get instead of becoming a certain concerned citizen, which is
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a good thing, we become just swallowed by the politics
of the day, even the stuff we can't control.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
It's an out of proportion of obsession at that point.
Shame's a big one, especially in this perfection culture. Listen,
if we take our definition of love from God's plan
the Bible, it's patient, it keeps no record of wrong. Well,
our culture is very tolerant for sin, very intolerant for
anybody that fails a godly standard, and then shame comes in.
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I would think this is the toughest generation for shame ever.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
I would not disagree at all. I think, in fact,
today your mistakes get kind of broadcast on the internet
faster than you can keep up with. But even smaller
scale than that, it's really those people nearest to you, right.
I remember hearing an author one time saying I want
to be famous in my own home, and I just
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love that line, that line. But it's hard. It's hard
when we feel like those around us the closest our life,
our children or your husband if you're married, they see
us every day, and every day we do something that
probably wants us to be convinced we should just give
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up and go dive into something meaningless, and it can
be hard to stay in the game.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
The book is called Don't Bench yourself, how to stay
in the game even when you want to quit. Don't
bench yourself. You can get it at Amazon dot com.
We're also going to tell you how you can get
it in other places as well, and more information. All right,
So fear, shame, criticism, impatience, probably failure, probably conforming to
the patterns of this world quite frankly, might be a
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big part of it. To use church lingo, all right,
how do we avoid this? What are the four steps
that we can take to get off the bench.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
The first one may seem counterintuitive because it's going to
sound a little rough, and it is. First, we've got
to call it out. Recently, my twelve year old son
did not want to tell me about something it happened
in our home that was broken because he was concerned
about how I might react. And you know what, I've
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got to look at that as a dad and say, man,
that stinks. That's me being a lousy father. That's me
creating an environment where my own kids don't feel safe
to tell me things because of how I'm gonna react,
rather than just sweep it under the rug and go, well,
sometimes I can be a little overzealous, you know, I
got to be able to call it out and just say, man,
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sometimes I can be a jerk. And that may sound
very judgy, that may sound very not appropriate in our
sensitivity based culture, but bottom line is that is the
language of liberation. When I can say, man, I can
be a jerk, dad, then I can start working on it.
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It's just like health. If you went in with a
cancer problem and your doctor called it a boo boo
and gave you a band aid, you'd sue him for malpractice,
and just like that. To get rid of some of
these enemies, we've got to be able to call it
out blaytant, straight up main Street, howd it really go?
We've got to be honest with ourselves.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Well, that makes me think of standing in my front
yard where I could see the perfect cartoon imprint of
my son's jeep wrangler in my garage door as he's
denying it was him who ran into it. I actually
kind of thought that one might have been Nick's failure.
You know, the big picture is we see it. We're
the worst to view ourselves, all right, because we don't
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live well in a mirror. I so love what you said.
I have a lot of listeners who give me a
lot of praise, and trust me, I'm not all that.
I'm not any better. I'm the same person. You are,
struggling to be godly in the midst of an ungodly world,
you know, struggling to be an American citizen in a
country that's losing its identity. I mean all of that stuff.
But when I talk to my adult children and I
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jokingly asked them questions about, you know, as they're telling
a horse story, Well, you know, aren't you glad your
dad isn't that way? And then they seriously open up
about the kind of parent I was. But I bring
it up this way. If you'd have asked me in
real time for eighteen years, Michael, how you did well
you did? And I would tell you, oh, I'm terrible
at this. I don't know what I'm doing. I clam up,
I get silent. The only thing and I would tell
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you the only thing I do and I do well
is I love unconditionally. Well, that's a lot. Apparently that
accounts for a lot. There's a lot more we're doing
right than we give ourselves credit for too right.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
That's right, well, and right after we can call it
out absolutely because it's the again. It's the language of liberation.
If we know that, we can move forward, and then
we don't live under that guilt of having done it
wrong in the past, and then we can move on
to step two, which is to make it right. One time, Michael,
my wife and I went on a trip to Israel
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and we brought home these nativities hand carved out of
olive wood for all of the people who watched our
kids while we were on our trip. And my thirteen
year old son at the time saw them in a
big white bag and threw them all in the garbage.
I'm no joke. One hundred percent of all that work
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and all that money went in the garbage. And then
he came to me later and said, Dad, I know
I didn't do that on purpose, but how can I
make it right? And I said, well, you can buy
some new ones and you can pay for international shipping
to get them here by Christmas. And he did not blink.
He goes get him here.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
I'll do it.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
And I just remember that being this moment where my
teenage kid was like, you know what, I'm going to
own this problem and I'm going to fix it. And
neither of the things.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
I hate to interrupt you. Ken, I hate to interrupt you,
but Jeffrey, could you please contact Dylan. I'd like to
adopt his child and trade it for that. Yeah, I'll
get right on that right now. Okay, thanks, he's going
to work on that. I have met your children. They
are remarkable and they're not normal. All right. So, by
the way, Kent runs Manhood j but you can learn
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Speaker 3 (26:24):
And you said it a minute ago when you alluded
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Speaker 1 (26:57):
Go do it, because we tend to. You know, first
of all, the Bible doesn't say it unless it's true.
We all, by nature grow weary in doing good if
we don't get what we think are the results we deserve.
So there's always a scoreboard. But would you be willing
to do good and continue to do good and never
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I want to know? All these people? Am I still?
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Way to go, Michael, I finally made something. What was
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Speaker 2 (29:08):
And Frank in Tennessee.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
My morning show is your morning show with Michael Deltrono.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
This is your morning show. Humbly thrilled to serve you.
I am Michael Deldrono. Jeffrey Lyon dealing with a mess
in the studio, and Roory O'Neill just another hour of broadcast. Excellent.
Sorry if you're just waking up despite three concussions. Miami
Dolphins starting quarterback Tua, I hate doing this. You're from Florida.
Do it for me, Rory to a tongue of ioloa.
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There you go. He's planning on not retiring. I think
he should probably consider it strongly. The Bear Hacks and
Showgun big winners at the Emmy's last night. An original
member of the Jackson five is dead Tito at seventy,
and a suspect is in custody after what the FBI
is calling a second assassination attempt on President Trump. Rory's
here with the latest on that, which is not a
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lot more than we knew an hour ago, right Rory.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Yeah, we're still trying to put together the background of
this suspected gunman.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I guess we call him at this point.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
As you know, he was stopped on I ninety five,
pretty far north of where this had all unfolded the
next county up there in Florida. It was license plate
reader technology that was used to track down his truck
as it went up the highway. You know, a passer
by or someone in the area actually saw him jump
out of the bushes into the truck and speed away
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from the Trump International Club. Took the picture and sent
that license tag to law enforcement. They're the ones that
put it in the computer, and that's how they were
able to make the arrest so quickly.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
He had an AK forty seven style rifle, but he
also had a GoPro. This guy planned on filming and
posting it, didn't he that seemed to be the plan.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
He was pretty active on social media, not something we
normally see from someone of that generation.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
I suppose he'd say, but yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
So he was also a self published author who said
some pretty derogatory things about former President Trump. I think
once or twice he said some nice things, but mostly negative,
especially more recently, a staunch advocate for Ukraine. Had gone
to Ukraine we think twice at least, and posted videos,
did some international media interviews trying to get more support
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for Ukraine and its fight against the Russian invasion. We
know he spent time in North Carolina and Hawaii. He
didn't pay taxes, was a deadbeat, hauled into court civil
court many times, and also had this incident twenty years
ago involving either holding a gun and being held up
for a while in almost a standoff with police for
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a time. And that's also part of his background, which
they're really focusing I think now on his mental health
moving forward.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
By the way, the charges in two thousand and two
were possession of a weapon of mass destruction. We presume
that was what some sort of a pipe bomb I'm
assuming really Yeah, all right, so this is a strange character.
Moved to Hawaii. We know in twenty sixteen he voted
for Trump. We know in twenty twenty supported Tel Gabbert,
and we know he voted most recently in North Carolina
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in a Democrat primary. Pretty disturbing. He was about four
hundred and fifty yards away. Good work by the Secret
Service to catch him before the President was within firing range.
They fired on him, he never not got any shots off,
and then later was apprehended. I want to share an
email with you. I think you'll get a kickout of
this comes from Ohio. The reason people are shooting at
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Trump is because he's the world's biggest a hole, only
interested in himself, always talking about his hatred and grievance
of everyone and everything, including the United States. His hate
against others breeds hate against him, and in this case,
Trump's siding with Putin, which is a perception his opponents
are making that's not a reality. Remember during the debate
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when Trump got his butt kicked by Harris, he twice
refused to say if he wants Ukraine to win the war.
He twice said that if he was president, the invasion
never would have taken place, and when he becomes president elect,
he'll end it before even the inauguration. That's his solution him.
But again, you should not create any false conspiracy theory
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about why people don't like Donald Trump. You're smart, you're talented,
but you cannot see through your own political conservative bias.
That's the way you can earn your money, but your
bias is harming the US. So apparently, if you disagree
with Donald Trump, voting for his opponent is not the solution.
It's reasonable to take a shot at him. I about
secret Service would love that email, to be honest with you.
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I mean, most people get it right. The difference. How
important is all this division and rhetoric in all of
this thirty seconds?
Speaker 5 (33:39):
I'm just sad, and it's a more reflection of where
we are today, and sadly, you know, we don't certainly
don't want this to become the norm and acceptable. I
mean so thankful that in both cases, you know, President
Trump is here to.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Talk about these things today, and it's troubling. Yeah, we
don't know if there's going to be another attempt. What
we know is they must keep him safe. We're all
in this together.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
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Speaker 1 (00:40):
Six minutes after the hour. Thanks for waking up with
your morning show on the air and streaming live on
your iHeartRadio app. I am Michael del Jorno, Happy to
serve you. Jeffrey Lyons got the board and real in
a moment, A suspect is in custody after what the
FBI is calling an apparent assassination attempt on former President
Donald Trump. That makes two. An original member of the
Jackson five is dead. Tito at the age of seventy
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after an apparent heart attack. The Bear Hacks and Showgun
the big winners last night at the Emmy Awards, and
despite a third concussion to us as he's going nowhere.
He will return as the quarterback of the Miami Dolphins.
And former President Donald Trump reportedly has a road map
for taking woke out of the American education system. Well,
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it has become more in doctrination than an education, and
it has certainly been failing for decades in preparing kids
for the workforce or for higher education. But wokeness and
what is the plan? That's what we need to hear.
And Aaron Rayal is here with that reality. Good morning, Aaron.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Hi.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Yes, wokeness out, at least when it comes to the
Trump administration and the Education Department. In fact, in speeches,
Trump has repeated the pledged to abolish the Education Department.
So one strategy that he would use he would launch
a civil rights investigation into schools that have supported transgender rights,
racial diversity programs. And he also wants to use the
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college accreditation system and scale back its diversity goals. A
popular one which is less less of an impact, but
also a profound impact. Let me just get to it.
The universal school choice. This is interesting. This has support
on both sides, which is why I think it's the
most interesting. So it's basically giving money to parents to
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send their kid wherever they want. It's very popular in Arizona.
It takes federal funding dollars away from the public school system.
But there is a large and strong argument to be
made that not every child learns the same way, so
having a one size fit all education system will not work.
But giving the people the money to make the power,
it puts the power in their hands and make decisions
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for what's right for their Family's popular on both sides
of the aisle.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, you'd be surprised how many Republicans, though especially moms,
have a problem with this one. And again yes, yeah,
because it ends up being okay. Well, we normally say
competition breeds excellence, but not here. And if you start
doing this and people start, I would do it. I
would cut to the chase this way. One of the
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biggest problems, bigger than the problems that we discuss and
try to solve, is the extreme division in this country
far left far right. There's no middle anymore, and the
two can't even communicate. Wouldn't this even create that more.
And I have been a long proponent for school choice,
for competition, and for fairness. But there are a lot
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of things involved here. If you live in a great city,
you probably live in that city because it has good schools,
it has a good police department in low crime, and
it has a lot of affordable, great neighborhoods to live in,
and it's near a lot of jobs. So you know,
can you achieve that? You would think that the fixing
and getting there was a time before nineteen seventy nine
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where the federal government didn't have its fingers in education,
and I think its fingers have caused a lot of problems.
I think we need to get its fingers out of
it without necessarily doing this and it. But this is
a debate. My main point is that hasn't been hashed
out at a lot of levels. And so anybody saying
I'm just going to completely get rid of it or
I'm going to do nothing, is the only two unacceptable things.
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Does that make sense? Okay?
Speaker 5 (04:14):
No?
Speaker 4 (04:14):
But that's like, this is the thing that bugs most people,
Like I truly believe this. I think most people are reasonable.
I know, crazy, mind boggling, but I think that if
you like, give them the sides of both things. They
just want it to work. We just want to have
to work, man.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
But it's not working. It's not worth it's not working.
In terms of graduation level, we're not getting smarter, we're
getting dumber. We're falling behind the rest of the world.
Kids are not prepared for higher education of post COVID,
they won't be prepared at all. They're going to be
living in remedial courses. So it is failing and that
needs to be addressed. Wokeness is a part of that.
They should be about education and not in doctrination. And
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I would warrn everybody, especially people even your age. If
you think when your kids start school it's going to
be the same textbooks and the same curriculum and the
same ex experience as you had, you might want to
think again. It's unrecognizable. So it does need to be addressed,
and needs to be addressed by all and collectively. That's
something that we're only like Aaron I say this all
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the time and nobody likes hearing it. But we're narrative repeaters,
that's all we are. And if we've got a problem,
it's not so much what we're sending to Washington. It's
who's sending it to Washington. We should look in the
mirror because we haven't tackled this in the meantime. You know,
people make tough choices like, well, my taxes go to
the public school that's failing. My kids with my extra
money and the sacrifices that we're making are going to
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a private school. That's kind of where we're at. Is
there a better place? Besides wokeness is in the eye
of the beholders. So how's America going to decide what's woke?
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Yeah, listen, I agree with you on everything you just said.
And as a mother with kids going to school, I
don't know how to fix this one. Like education is
so hard because not everyone is the same. And if
you're not, like, let's take woke out of it, let's
take transgender out of it, to hyperbolic it gets people
too fired up. Let's just think about educating the populace
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so that we're better on a global stage, like know
this stuff type like that, Let's let's talk about arithmetic
more than like gender identity, because in so many ways,
like we're just getting lost.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
But Karon, this this applies to education. This applies to business,
this applies to faith, This applies to every aspect of life.
Passion equals focus. We will focus on what we're passionate about.
So passion equals focus. Focus leads to action. Action, set
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in motion, a direction. A direction arrives at a destination.
If your passion. And there's a lot of people whose
passion is wokeness and social engineering, not preparing for college,
not preparing for citizenship, not preparing for the workforce. It
leads to to conflicting actions. But how do you eat
an elephant one bite at a time. But you got
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to decide the right first bite. Everybody goes to the
dramatic last bite to try to sell the first bite,
and that never works. So all this chaos just leads
to no action, which leads to continued failed education and
along the way, continued WOCs and chaos. Too tough one,
tough one you had today, But at least it wasn't
bad news. It was reality news. M H.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
Very true.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
In action, of course is the bad news, Aaron real
great reporting today. We'll talk again tomorrow thirteen minutes after
the hour. Joining us now is Chris Walker, who is
the consultant and analyst for the Republican Party and a
Your Morning Show contributor. Well, now a second, I guess,
you know, unless the people that are splitting hairs, I
guess you have to shoot the president for it to
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be called an assassination attempt. This was clearly an attempt.
It was just thwarted before he got a shout off,
which thank god for. But this is a second now
against Donald Trump. It begs the question is there going
to be a third? Is there going to be a fourth?
Is it possible to keep this man healthy and protected
until election day?
Speaker 6 (08:01):
Yeah, morning, Michael, it's uh, you know, it's definitely a.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
You know it.
Speaker 6 (08:06):
It was a bad day yesterday. But thank going to
Secret Service not waiting until shots were fired, but you know,
taking taking the initiative this time, which is you know,
a a positive step, but unfortunately a very very you know,
four steps back in terms of the rhetoric and the
uh you know, kind of willingness of some of these
folks to kind of go to the most extreme level
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to try to affect politics.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Well, the name of the show is your Mind Show,
and I'm just the host. But let me be the
bad guy. So let me get this straight twice. Now
somebody's tried to kill former President Donald Trump, and we
think we got to beef up security for everybody. I
think the priority should be Donald Trump. That's who everybody
keeps aiming guns at. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
We we've we hadn't had a shot taken a president
of forty plus years, and now you've had two and
two months. You know, this is this is just completely unsustainable.
I think it just it goes to show that you know,
when you when you threatening somebody and say that they
are next essential threat to democracy, you know somebody's some
folks are going to listen to that and not see
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it as hyperbole.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
But as oh, I've been told, I've been told nuts
is nuts, and we don't know what motivates nuts. Sometimes
don't take anything to motivate nuts. So it doesn't matter
if you call him a dictator, a friend of a dictator,
a tyrant, an insurrectionist, a rapist to fell in, a
threat to democracy itself. That doesn't have any role in this.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Well.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
I mean, you know, I think you're being facetious, but.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Uh, oh, I'm being facetious.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
I know, I know I'm kidding.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I just the others aren't though. And by the way,
since when does the left not focus on the gun.
Here's a guy in two thousand and two arrested for
having a weapon of mass destruction in a in a shootout,
barricaded stand off with police. He's convicted, and nobody's saying,
how do he get a gun? They never care about
how these people get guns if they're aimed at Trump. There,
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I said that out loud. Let me be the bad guy.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
Yeah, I think the uh, the rhetoric yesterday was particularly loathsome,
just in terms of, you know, this is somehow Trump's fault,
for the for the for the temperature being raised, and
this is what happens. And you know, you've seen a
bunch of Democrats saying just ridiculously bad things that you know,
almost like that he brought this on himself. You know,
(10:22):
it's just it's it's gross, it's evil, it's uh, it's
it's the raw and you know, unabashed pursuit of power
with uh, with with nothing getting in standing in the
way of their efforts to to try to acquire power.
It's it's gross and it needs to stop. But again,
thank goodness for the Secret Service. And you know, maybe
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this time, we could see a little bit of a
decline of the rhetoric overall. But I'm not holding my
breath this. We're fifty days out from an election and
there's a lot more ads than other stuff to come out.
So because we're not going to do interviews or anything else.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
So Republican consultant analyst Chris Walker, our weekly visit. Uh,
this is this is projectile vomiting inducing during breakfast time.
But here's the headline in the Washington Post. Can you
imagine if one of their candidates had been shot at once,
let alone twice attempted assassinations? Headline, Washington Post FBI investigating
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Trump golf course episode as a potential assassination attempt. Like,
all we can confirm is it was an episode, you know,
like a double bogie, triple bogee, a gun pointed at
you an episode. I mean, this is And by the way,
Joe Biden over the weekend talking to the Congressional Black
Caucus once again stating that the soul of democracy is
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at stake at this election. Now nobody wants to play that.
Sound clips are playing obscure, ridiculous clips from Kamala Harris instead.
But I think rhetoric matters. I think it's not a
coincidence that there's been two attempts on a candidate's life
and they've both been Donald Trump, And it makes me
very curious and worried that there's a third and a
fourth coming.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
I mean, I love you, but I hope you're wrong.
But I mean you may not be, but you know,
I hope that this can somehow lead to some soul searching.
And frankly, it'd say soul searching on both sides. Let's
not let's all kind of take a step back and
not let politics be the end all be all here. Like,
there's a lot of things that need to be addressed
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in this country, but a lot of it has to
do with the kind of the inability of either side
to talk to each other and have an honest or
you know, just kind of a you know, a loving
conversation without it turning into this kind of rhetoric driven
I mean, this is this is not I don't want
to both sides it because it's not a both sides
of that situation, but we have to we both need
to take stock and figure out how to lower the
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temperature in this country. We're tearing each other apart, and
I think that's what our enmities really want us to
be doing. Well.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah, and right now it's leading to dysfunction, chaos, and
two assassination attempts, but it could still lead to a
true a real not what they create a January sixth,
but a real insurrection or a real civil war, which
is even more than the killing.
Speaker 6 (13:02):
Which is exactly what China and Russia would love to
see happen. So I mean, in some regards, let's look
inward and decide no, you know, no moths as mikes.
You know, let's figure out how to do it.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
The only other thing I had that I was going
to kick around with you prior to the assassination attempted
some new polling coming out of Iowa. They're making a
big deal out of it in the leftist media. The
reality is Donald Trump still leads in Iowa by five
six points, and that's with the margin of ERA four
or five points. But the tightening of a race in
a place where people would have thought was solid for
Donald Trump, well, I could say the same for Virginia.
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I could say the same for I could say the
same for New York and New Jersey. I think people
are going to be a shocked at how close this
is a lot of places.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
Yeah, I mean, you know, anyone trying to make Iowa
into a swing state is silly. And that's that's that.
I did not see the poll certificate, but I did
see the headline kind of percolating on social media a
little bit over the weekend. You know, look, Pennsylvania is
it's you know, Michigan and Wisconsin are basically tied. Georgia
North Carolina are ties, So that's where the real efforts
(14:06):
going to be. You know, I would like North sclining
to be a little more red, but right now it's not.
So you know, we got it. We got to focus
on those and you know, figure out how we win
and ultimately that that leads to talking about and I
hate to say it today after yesterday, but I mean
again this you kind of have to litigate the policy,
not the person. And so from a standpoint of the
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of the failures that we've seen from the Biden Hairs administration,
you know, take the personal out, fine, still a lot
of failures. I mean, you know, I see my credit
card statement and my grocery bills going up remarkably high
over the last three years compared to three years ago,
and you know, those are the things that people need
to decide. This is what we're voting on, this is
what we care about, and you know, without anger or hostility,
(14:51):
but just you know, a sober realization that this these
decisions really matter, and you can you can vote for
someone who will make your life better and more free,
or you could vote for someone who you know continues
to have a top down government, solution oriented administration. And
we just which one is not.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
This is laughable right out loud to discuss school choice
in thirty seconds. But did you hear any of what
Aaron and I were going over.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
I've listened a little bit of the end, yes, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
The point being that this is a very complex topic.
We're always trying to eat the elephant one bite at
a time, but we always start with the last bite,
not the first bite. There's a lot of things that
have gone wrong since the government, federal government got its
fingers in the education plate back in nineteen seventy nine.
Wokeness is just one of the many things that have
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gone wrong. But to just go to abolish or just
go to something big, that's not the way to have
the discussion, not if you really plan to move forward
in a direction that's going to do right by our kids.
And I'm for school I agree with you, but.
Speaker 6 (15:52):
I also have to consider, well, I agree with you
in the sense you said like you've always been in
favor of school choice, to introduce competition. I agree with that.
You know the devil's and the details as it isn't
in every situation. But you know, in fay the idea
of bringing stuff out of the federal government and out
of centralized control and more localizing it, which has been
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against the trend in the last forty years, is a key.
When education is producing worse and worse outcomes, you have
to start figuring out how to do it again. This
the generation that produced the Man on the Moon. You
know the majority of them study in single room classrooms
in the you know, the thirties and twenties. You know,
the bureaucraization of education has not made a better.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Product, no, no question. What I'm saying LOCALI well, how
did we get to the moon with a clear vision?
How did we get to the moon? Explaining every step
of that vision and why that needs to be done.
You can't cut right to abolish or end right, or
that just gets everybody's fears up and nothing happens. That
was going to be my main point.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
This is your Morning Show with Michael Del Trono.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Can I start with a different twist. I want to
thank God for protecting Donald Trump again yesterday as a
suspect is in custody after the FBI is calling it
an apparent assassination attempt on Donald Trump. An original member
of the Jackson five is dead. I won't leave you
hanging as Tito and Bear hacks and showguns the big
winner at the Emmys, and I've watched all three of
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his concussions. My advice for TWOA would be to retire.
He says, no way, I'm going to play. And that's
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He does tremendous work with fathers. This latest book is
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everyone listening. Don't bench yourself. It's his fourth book, How
to stay in the game even when you want to quit,
because sometimes when you quit, you think you're punishing yourself,
but you're really punishing those who need you most. Kent,
Good morning, and welcome to your morning show. And tell
us why you wrote the book. Are you seeing a
(18:00):
lot of people benching themselves?
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Man, Michael, First, thank you for having me on. Brother,
It's always a pleasure to talk with you. And yes,
I and myself and a lot of people that I
know are tempted to withdraw from critical areas of life
because of the pressures and the challenges around them. They
get kind of swallowed up by the game of life
(18:24):
and then they want to just walk off the field.
And we got to help them stop doing that.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah, and I listen. I think there are a lot
of people right now listening. I would my guests would
be and you're the author. I'll just be the host.
But they're getting sick of politics and their involvement. Of course,
in a nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice
for all, you have to stay engaged as a citizen.
You cannot, my favorite scripture, grow weary in doing good.
(18:51):
But I think what we're more concerned about here is
people that are giving up on their marriage, people that
are giving up on their children, people that gave up
on their vocation. I know I have felt that way
about talk radio in the past. What's most common, It
really depends on each individual, because it's all the above, right.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Well, there are several reasons we tend to do it right.
One is fear. We're afraid of being called on to
maybe the bigger field. Maybe you just became a dad
and you think, man, I can never do this dad thing.
Or you just got married and you think I don't
know how to be a good wife, and so you
get concerned. Or maybe you feel shameful. Maybe you tried
and it didn't work out great, and so you've made
(19:30):
some errors in the game of life and you figure
you'll quit. Or criticism got to you. You took too
much criticism, or maybe it's impatience. That's me, right, I
want to put in effort on a Monday and get
all my results on a Tuesday. And when those things
don't work out right, we tend to just walk off
the field. We go to hobbies. To your point, we
get instead of becoming a certain concerned citizen, which is
(19:52):
a good thing, we become just swallowed by the politics
of the day, even the stuff we can't control.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
It's an out of proportion of obsession at that point.
Shame's a big one, especially in this perfection culture. Listen,
if we take our definition of love from God's plan
the Bible, it's patient, it keeps no record of wrong. Well,
our culture is very tolerant for sin, very intolerant for
anybody that fails a godly standard, and then shame comes in.
(20:23):
I would think this is the toughest generation for shame ever.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
I would not disagree at all. I think, in fact,
today your mistakes get kind of broadcast on the internet
faster than you can keep up with. But even smaller
scale than that, it's really those people nearest to you, right.
I remember hearing an author one time saying I want
to be famous in my own home, and I just
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love that line, that line. But it's hard. It's hard
when we feel like those around us the closest our life,
our children or your husband if you're married, they see
us every day, and every day we do something that
probably wants us to be convinced we should just give
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up and go dive into something meaningless, and it can
be hard to stay in the game.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
The book is called Don't Bench yourself, how to stay
in the game even when you want to quit. Don't
bench yourself. You can get it at Amazon dot com.
We're also going to tell you how you can get
it in other places as well, and more information. All right,
So fear, shame, criticism, impatience, probably failure, probably conforming to
the patterns of this world quite frankly, might be a
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big part of it. To use church lingo, all right,
how do we avoid this? What are the four steps
that we can take to get off the bench.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
The first one may seem counterintuitive because it's going to
sound a little rough, and it is. First, we've got
to call it out. Recently, my twelve year old son
did not want to tell me about something it happened
in our home that was broken because he was concerned
about how I might react. And you know what, I've
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got to look at that as a dad and say, man,
that stinks. That's me being a lousy father. That's me
creating an environment where my own kids don't feel safe
to tell me things because of how I'm gonna react,
rather than just sweep it under the rug and go, well,
sometimes I can be a little overzealous, you know, I
got to be able to call it out and just say, man,
(22:28):
sometimes I can be a jerk. And that may sound
very judgy, that may sound very not appropriate in our
sensitivity based culture, but bottom line is that is the
language of liberation. When I can say, man, I can
be a jerk, dad, then I can start working on it.
(22:51):
It's just like health. If you went in with a
cancer problem and your doctor called it a boo boo
and gave you a band aid, you'd sue him for malpractice,
and just like that. To get rid of some of
these enemies, we've got to be able to call it
out blaytant, straight up main Street, howd it really go?
We've got to be honest with ourselves.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Well, that makes me think of standing in my front
yard where I could see the perfect cartoon imprint of
my son's jeep wrangler in my garage door as he's
denying it was him who ran into it. I actually
kind of thought that one might have been Nick's failure.
You know, the big picture is we see it. We're
the worst to view ourselves, all right, because we don't
(23:34):
live well in a mirror. I so love what you said.
I have a lot of listeners who give me a
lot of praise, and trust me, I'm not all that.
I'm not any better. I'm the same person. You are,
struggling to be godly in the midst of an ungodly world,
you know, struggling to be an American citizen in a
country that's losing its identity. I mean all of that stuff.
But when I talk to my adult children and I
(23:56):
jokingly asked them questions about, you know, as they're telling
a horse story, Well, you know, aren't you glad your
dad isn't that way? And then they seriously open up
about the kind of parent I was. But I bring
it up this way. If you'd have asked me in
real time for eighteen years, Michael, how you did well
you did? And I would tell you, oh, I'm terrible
at this. I don't know what I'm doing. I clam up,
I get silent. The only thing and I would tell
(24:18):
you the only thing I do and I do well
is I love unconditionally. Well, that's a lot. Apparently that
accounts for a lot. There's a lot more we're doing
right than we give ourselves credit for too right.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
That's right, well, and right after we can call it
out absolutely because it's the again. It's the language of liberation.
If we know that, we can move forward, and then
we don't live under that guilt of having done it
wrong in the past, and then we can move on
to step two, which is to make it right. One time, Michael,
my wife and I went on a trip to Israel
(24:51):
and we brought home these nativities hand carved out of
olive wood for all of the people who watched our
kids while we were on our trip. And my thirteen
year old son at the time saw them in a
big white bag and threw them all in the garbage.
I'm no joke. One hundred percent of all that work
(25:12):
and all that money went in the garbage. And then
he came to me later and said, Dad, I know
I didn't do that on purpose, but how can I
make it right? And I said, well, you can buy
some new ones and you can pay for international shipping
to get them here by Christmas. And he did not blink.
He goes get him here.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
I'll do it.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
And I just remember that being this moment where my
teenage kid was like, you know what, I'm going to
own this problem and I'm going to fix it. And
neither of the things.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
I hate to interrupt you. Ken, I hate to interrupt you,
but Jeffrey, could you please contact Dylan. I'd like to
adopt his child and trade it for that. Yeah, I'll
get right on that right now. Okay, thanks, he's going
to work on that. I have met your children. They
are remarkable and they're not normal. All right. So, by
the way, Kent runs Manhood j but you can learn
more about at Manhood Journey dot org. And guys, we've
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got fathers. Fathers is what can make the measurable difference
in our culture today collectively, but it has to begin
in our home, and it has to begin today. Here's
a resource for dads out there to help you Manhood Journey.
But this book in particular, Don't Bench Yourself is for everyone.
What are you hoping to accomplish with the book?
Speaker 3 (26:24):
And you said it a minute ago when you alluded
to the verse Galatians six ' nine. If you're out
there and you're a Bible reader at all or open
to hear this word, it says, do not grow weary
in doing well, for in due time you will reap
a harvest if you don't give up. And that's what
I hope. I hope someone reads this book. And at
the end of this book, and it takes them an
(26:45):
hour or two to read, it's very short. They can
decide I will not give up, or I'm on the
bench and that's it. I'm dusting off my glove and
my cleats and I'm going to get back in the
game of life.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Go do it, because we tend to. You know, first
of all, the Bible doesn't say it unless it's true.
We all, by nature grow weary in doing good if
we don't get what we think are the results we deserve.
So there's always a scoreboard. But would you be willing
to do good and continue to do good and never
grow weary in doing good even if you lose an election,
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even if your kid's still not home, even if he's
still in rehab, even if your wife does leave you.
That's the point of this I endorse this book. I
read every word of it. I think it will change
the way you see things. I think it could revolutionize
your marriage, your family, your work, and collectively our country.
But tell them who else says endorse this book. It's
(27:40):
pretty impressive list. I'm the least impressive.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
My wife actually made fun of me a little bit
because She said, I was compensating for my own insecurities
by the number of people who endorse this book, and
we actually had to shorten them and not put the
full endorsement in the book. We had We had women
leaders in the world, Tina Griffin, Brandon Carls. We had
CEOs Greg Didrich, Scott McClellan. We had authors Jeff Kemp,
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Pat Coombs. We had preachers like Chip Ingram, Robert Lewis,
Jamal Williams. We just had a collection of people who
wanted to get behind this message.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Did I get bumped off the back cover? That's what
I want to know? All these people? Am I still?
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I got to know? Is Michael del Jorno? He is
on the back cover.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Way to go, Michael, I finally made something. What was
my quote? Do you remember it? Do you have it
in front of you?
Speaker 3 (28:32):
I think it was this book doesn't totally suck. You
should probably get ten copies like that.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
No, it was not that. The name of the book
is don't bench yourself. How would to stay in the
game when you want to quit? Don't grow weary in
doing good? And if you've grown weary, whether it's as
an American citizen involved in politics, whether it's as a
father not knowing what you're doing and then Seemanhood Journey
dot org for that, or in marriage or in work
or invocation. I highly recommend this book. Don't bench yourself.
(28:59):
Go to Amazon dot com and order a copy today.
You can learn more at manhood Journey dot org. As
always love you, my brother, what.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
And Frank in Tennessee.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
My morning show is your morning show with Michael Deltrono.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
This is your morning show. Humbly thrilled to serve you.
I am Michael Deldrono. Jeffrey Lyon dealing with a mess
in the studio, and Roory O'Neill just another hour of broadcast. Excellent.
Sorry if you're just waking up despite three concussions. Miami
Dolphins starting quarterback Tua, I hate doing this. You're from Florida.
Do it for me, Rory to a tongue of ioloa.
(29:35):
There you go. He's planning on not retiring. I think
he should probably consider it strongly. The Bear Hacks and
Showgun big winners at the Emmy's last night. An original
member of the Jackson five is dead Tito at seventy,
and a suspect is in custody after what the FBI
is calling a second assassination attempt on President Trump. Rory's
here with the latest on that, which is not a
(29:56):
lot more than we knew an hour ago, right Rory.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Yeah, we're still trying to put together the background of
this suspected gunman.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I guess we call him at this point.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
As you know, he was stopped on I ninety five,
pretty far north of where this had all unfolded the
next county up there in Florida. It was license plate
reader technology that was used to track down his truck
as it went up the highway. You know, a passer
by or someone in the area actually saw him jump
out of the bushes into the truck and speed away
(30:26):
from the Trump International Club. Took the picture and sent
that license tag to law enforcement. They're the ones that
put it in the computer, and that's how they were
able to make the arrest so quickly.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
He had an AK forty seven style rifle, but he
also had a GoPro. This guy planned on filming and
posting it, didn't he that seemed to be the plan.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
He was pretty active on social media, not something we
normally see from someone of that generation.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
I suppose he'd say, but yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
So he was also a self published author who said
some pretty derogatory things about former President Trump. I think
once or twice he said some nice things, but mostly negative,
especially more recently, a staunch advocate for Ukraine. Had gone
to Ukraine we think twice at least, and posted videos,
did some international media interviews trying to get more support
(31:15):
for Ukraine and its fight against the Russian invasion. We
know he spent time in North Carolina and Hawaii. He
didn't pay taxes, was a deadbeat, hauled into court civil
court many times, and also had this incident twenty years
ago involving either holding a gun and being held up
for a while in almost a standoff with police for
(31:36):
a time. And that's also part of his background, which
they're really focusing I think now on his mental health
moving forward.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
By the way, the charges in two thousand and two
were possession of a weapon of mass destruction. We presume
that was what some sort of a pipe bomb I'm
assuming really Yeah, all right, so this is a strange character.
Moved to Hawaii. We know in twenty sixteen he voted
for Trump. We know in twenty twenty supported Tel Gabbert,
and we know he voted most recently in North Carolina
(32:03):
in a Democrat primary. Pretty disturbing. He was about four
hundred and fifty yards away. Good work by the Secret
Service to catch him before the President was within firing range.
They fired on him, he never not got any shots off,
and then later was apprehended. I want to share an
email with you. I think you'll get a kickout of
this comes from Ohio. The reason people are shooting at
(32:26):
Trump is because he's the world's biggest a hole, only
interested in himself, always talking about his hatred and grievance
of everyone and everything, including the United States. His hate
against others breeds hate against him, and in this case,
Trump's siding with Putin, which is a perception his opponents
are making that's not a reality. Remember during the debate
(32:48):
when Trump got his butt kicked by Harris, he twice
refused to say if he wants Ukraine to win the war.
He twice said that if he was president, the invasion
never would have taken place, and when he becomes president elect,
he'll end it before even the inauguration. That's his solution him.
But again, you should not create any false conspiracy theory
(33:09):
about why people don't like Donald Trump. You're smart, you're talented,
but you cannot see through your own political conservative bias.
That's the way you can earn your money, but your
bias is harming the US. So apparently, if you disagree
with Donald Trump, voting for his opponent is not the solution.
It's reasonable to take a shot at him. I about
secret Service would love that email, to be honest with you.
(33:30):
I mean, most people get it right. The difference. How
important is all this division and rhetoric in all of
this thirty seconds?
Speaker 5 (33:39):
I'm just sad, and it's a more reflection of where
we are today, and sadly, you know, we don't certainly
don't want this to become the norm and acceptable. I
mean so thankful that in both cases, you know, President
Trump is here to.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Talk about these things today, and it's troubling. Yeah, we
don't know if there's going to be another attempt. What
we know is they must keep him safe. We're all
in this together.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
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