September 26, 2024 • 31 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:39):
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the twenty sixth, the Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty four,
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is your morning show. I'm Michael, that's Jeffrey. You're just
waking up. All eyes are on Hurricane Helene forecast to
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make landfall in Florida's big Ben. Isn't it interesting? Florida's
Big Ben Indiana South Bend right should have been the other.
The way around right runs by the Big Lake and
the others the south. That makes perfect sense. The problem
with that arrival when you're a cat for storm with
outer bands already over the Georgia border. When you make landfall,
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this becomes a hurricane event. For non traditional hurricane places
like Atlanta and as far north as Atlanta, storm surge
is the big concern. This is a deadly storm surge
making landfall in the Big Bend area. Then you've got
the winds, the power outages, the tornadoes that can be
associated with it. A weather event is coming, and you
say walls of water earlier, and that's crazy. Can you
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imagine there's a scene in San andreas the movie right,
and they have the tsunami that hits after the earthquakes.
But I mean, you know, twenty feet is two full stories.
That's four me of water coming at you. And I
can tell you after her King Katrina, my dad had
a place in Bay Saint Louis, which is right on
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the Gulf coast and maybe I don't know, half a
mile from shoreline or less, and after Katrina, because that
initial storm surge, everything's gone, and I mean gone, like
it was never there. It doesn't look like you know,
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oh you'll see a pipe here and there. I mean
even the slab was like clean. They found some of
their stuff fifteen miles as far as fifteen miles away.
It's just unthinkable. But yeah, wall of water is it's
tough to survive. So it's a cat for that's big.
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The trajectory I think makes it an inland problem more.
But that storm surge is a headline in and of itself.
Former First Lady Milania Trump is going to sit down
with Fox and Friends. She's not just talking about her book.
She addresses the assassination attempt on her husband. Meanwhile, Joe
Biden was on the View yesterday, a very relaxed Joe Biden,
very probably the most lovable I've seen Joe ever, maybe
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because when he was younger he was very much a senator,
very much a club of one hundred Scranton. Joe got
blades rising and a little squirrely, but I was tough.
I was tough. I always fighting fighting Joe. This was
a really peaceful I'd almost say charming, wouldn't you. Some
people think the portion where he addressed Kamala Harris has
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had a lot of power as vice president, was purposely
linking her to the administration. Maybe even a little chop
across the knees that will leave in the eye of
the beholder. It was certainly a love fest on the view,
I will tell you that. And then there's Kamala, all right,
so we know they're hiding Kamala and plain sight. I
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think when I say we, I mean the American people.
I think the American people have connected that dot. They
may just they were honest with themselves with a lie
detector on. They just hate They hate Donald Trump so
much they're willing to buy it and play long.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Now.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
I don't know how that translates in terms of energy
on election day. Unity and energy is what drives turn out.
And I don't think it's real. And I don't know
hating somebody or being afraid of somebody is enough to
motivate all could be poles suggest it is, could be
in reality, and could be enough in waves for early voting.
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But there's no genuine enthusiasm for her. There's no one
believing the storylines. Translation, they haven't been getting away with it,
but they might. They hit Joe in a basement during
COVID and got away with it. They're hiding Kamala in
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plain sight. Will they get away with it? Time will tell?
Are your Morning sho Bookie from the sports book chimed
in earlier and the odds are all flowing in Donald
Trump's favor. So the more the betting community looks at this,
the more Donald Trump is the favorite. But here's the
bottom line. Normally, what would happen is if you had
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a puppet candidate, the media would expose it. They would
make sure you don't miss it, because a puppet candidate
becomes a puppet office holder. Now that almost doesn't even
apply in twenty twenty four because most of America doesn't
buy Joe Biden's really running the presidency because he's not.
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Probably John Podesta when he's not fighting with Joe Biden
when Joe's up, That's who ran Obama for eight years,
That's who ran Clinton for eight years. That's probably who's
been running the country the last four years. But if
you remember Sarah Palin, she sits down with Katie Kirk
and Katie ends it before the election, which even happens.
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This woman doesn't know what she's talking about. She's not
ready to be a heartbeat away from the president presidency.
But that hasn't happened with Kamala Harris. Softball after softball,
loss of credibility, loss of ratings, be damned, they give
her a free ride until yesterday. MSNBC's Stephanie Rule calls
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out Harris for dodging how she'd raise taxes twofold One
asks her the tough questions, when she doesn't answer them,
cross examines her, redirects her, eventually gives up, but then
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does interviews on how this woman can't answer a direct question.
I like to call that she katy character. And a
preview clip of her interview with The Democrat Now Need
that aired on Wednesday, Rule pressed where Harris would get
the money to fund her pricey economic proposals if let's
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say the Republicans control the House or the Senate and
block her quote if the GOP is controlling the Senate,
if she can't raise corporate taxes, or is she getting
the money to expand child tax credits for the working
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class that she once was, or do anything else that
she wants to do, and her answer is, we just
have to do it. Translation, I'm asking specific questions, I
want specific answers, and you're giving lines out of a speech.
So Rule interviews her, is frustrated, then goes down to
(07:52):
Cole Wallace's show and blasts CRT smitherines, that's a great
campaign promise, but the issue is if it means we're
going to just borrow again, then what we're doing is
we're just never going to address the deficit and ultimately
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the debt. Well, Stephanie, welcome to that party. You can't
spend your way out of a spending problem. You can't
debt your way out of a debt problem. Barack Obama
proved it. Trump proved it, Biden proved it. Apparently not
to Kamala Harris. Just days ago, Rule argued that Harris
didn't have to answer tough policy questions because she wasn't
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running for perfect she was running against Donald Trump. Now,
if the nuance is I don't have to win votes,
I just need to scare people from Donald Trump. Well
that's a tragic strategy and that's certainly in play. But
she certainly changed her tune and now she's basic outing her.
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You ask her a direct question. If she doesn't answer, so,
what's the difference up until now? And I always say,
never underestimate the American people, especially you and I. Just
when we get so frustrated and so afraid, the American
people remind us and never let us down. They see
through it. They're always smarter than the politicians think. They
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know you're hiding her in plain sight. They know she's
a puppet, and they know she'll be a puppet as
a president. They know she's clueless, they know she would
be potentially the most weakest resume and president ever. It's
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just measuring and weighing fear of Trump versus fear of her.
And that's why it's a close race. But this is
the first time or maybe the seed of the media
or a few in the media with some journalistic integrity
for her grace period in honeymoon ending. In other words,
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maybe a shot across the bow. We don't think she
can win being hit in plain sight. Somebody teach this
woman how to answer a direct question and a redirect question,
a cross examination question. For God's say she's a prosecutor.
Have her memorize some answers. Because Stephanie Rule just buried
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her But it begs the question when even the most
liberal media outlet like MSNBC is questioning how Kamala Harris
will administer policy in a divided government and she can't
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answer the question, what on earth would that administration look like?
If a candidate can't answer a question, Now, are they
going to answer questions and news conferences if they can't
be trans parent now as a candidate, are they gonna
be transparent as president? If they can't lead their party
in a race, how they going to lead their party
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in governing? Rule later suggested that the idea of Harris
sitting down for a tough interview that would extract specific
policy proposals is as out of reach as nirvana. I mean,
why is commonly even running for president? He's not a
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very artful dodger. So whether a member of the press
points it out or not, the American people can connect
the dots. The question is, in this particular case, is
there time running out or beginning to collectively run out
with an already biased dead journalism. Well, that just depends
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on if Stephanie Rule is the tip of the ice
or the beginning of a trend or just an isolated
case and a shot across the bow of those who
are running this campaign to step it up, because you're
gonna lose if you don't. There was a line in
what was the movie? Where it was the breakthrough for
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Ben Affleck and what was it called? Robin Williams? Do
you remember the name of it?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Now?
Speaker 1 (12:33):
My brain? But he's just staring off into space while
Robin Williams is counseling and he's just staring at what
are you looking at? All these books? We got all
these books. Nobody's reading the right ones. There's a lot
of noise, there's a lot of voices, there's a lot
of information, just isn't often a lot of understanding. And
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in the end, even without it, I think people are
starting to figure it out. It was a good will hunting, right,
good will hunt? Yeah, good will hunting. Get distracted. I
get lost in everything today. I don't know what you know.
You're right, I'm not doing good. It's been very busy today. Well,
I'm having a tech day where nothing works and it's
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distracting me. So the question is is this the tip
of the iceberg or an isolated incident? And will they
step up per game? It doesn't seem like it's capable
of stepping up. It really doesn't. And that's shocking to
me because you would think anybody could be a better
puppet than that.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
If you will, this is your morning show with Michael Deltno.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Remember, if it's your morning show, it's got to have
your voice. We had your morning show. Bookie call in
earlier with the latest odds on the presidential race. Never
mind polling. Talk to my bookie.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Do we have the latest I just have to give
you these morning betting odds on the presidential race. She's
down a minus one oh two. Trump is plus one
oh five. I'm predicted by Monday, Trump will be a
betting favorite.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Right now, it's a push. Do people really bet this time?
They must have to? Yeah, yeah, there's somebody online right now.
Give me a Trump tester two tem Barley, give me
a three te dser and ad Cruise. I mean, this
is sick. How do you play that stuff? But isn't
it funny? The polls and the betting odds all have
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this a push right now, but trending towards Trump and
away from Kamala Harrison. I don't think yesterday's interview on MSNBC,
did Harris any favors. Meanwhile, Biden was on the view.
Some took a certain section of it as kind of
a little uh, what do they call it in prison?
A shank when they shank you for the knife. At
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least that's how some have taken it, the links to
Kamala Harris and the amount of control she was given
by Biden, and how that could be construed as really
support for Donald Trump. Here's how Dana Prino put it
on The Five.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
I never thought that Joe Biden would make a political
contribution to the Trump campaign, but he did so today
because I don't think there's anyway the Harris people thought
that this was going to be a good idea, he says.
As vice president, there wasn't a single thing that I
did that she couldn't do, and I was able to
delegate her responsibility on everything from for a policy to
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domestic policy.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Other than that, it was just a big love fest
in general. Of course, all eyes are and Hurricane Helen
forecasted to be a cat for and she makes land
for landfall in Florida's Big Ben later tonight. But because
of the trajectory, because of the intensity of the storm surge,
eyes are on Florida and beyond even into Atlanta. And
we're sorry to see the drop in interest rates fueling
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some mortgage refinancing. I guess that's some good news. And
Kamala Harris is unveiling a new plan that sheie holds
will sway businesses away from Trump. Not a lot of
specifics as usual, but always specific. Is Aaron Rayale joining us?
Speaker 5 (16:12):
Good morning, Aaron, Good morning, Michael. How are you, my friend?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
My guests would be These are the people that didn't
have any choice, they were stuck at I don't know
what was the highest. Some people might have had close
to seven right.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
On mortgages exactly.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
And so now that we're seeing them refinance, I don't
think there's anybody sitting with obviously twos and threes refinancing
yet or but how much of this is people? Okay?
I think now I'd be willing to pay this interest
rate and move. So are we seeing moving or refinancing
from those with high ones?
Speaker 5 (16:46):
We're moving from refinancing with us with high ones. And
while like if you look at the numbers, the surge
is twenty percent from last week, but like last week,
no one was getting a new mortgage. So like these
numbers are kind of deceding. They say that that demand
was one hundred and seventy five percent higher than a
year ago the same week. Yeah, of course, because they
were like seven percent a year ago. But if you
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they say not to refily unless you're going to get
seventy five basis points cut off because there's a lot
of fees that are associated with thirty five. So like,
unless you're going to get enough to justify the fees,
and if you are, then you should for sure. Because
but outside of that, wait, wait, and while we do
know that the REFI was up twenty percent, this is
for the thirty year fixed mortgage. Actual applications for new
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homes up just one percent last week. So what that
tells us, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
What I was just going to say is, and I'm
going I like to do this because then you go,
that's very good because I'm a good guess. But I
see all that somewhere around six point twenty five or higher,
you should be looking at it.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and right yeah, listen, and currently, right now,
the decrease for the fixed rate conforming loan with a
balance of like around seven hundred thousand or less, that's
gone down to six point one.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Okay, well then I am then I'm off. Then that
wouldn't be good enough. I would say sit tight on
that unless you were seven, and i'd say seven or higher.
So we're getting closer because we're all trying to figureut
what that magic number is. It gets this thing really moving.
I don't think we're there yet. There's some movement for
people in really bad situations in the sevens. And do
you think anybody's sitting with an eight?
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Uh yeah, someone with bad not bad guarded but yes, all.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Right, so yeah, so something the sevens and eights might
see this as a good time to move. But that's it.
We're not really getting to what's really holding up most
of the inventory. And I still think that magic numbers
under five are right at five.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Yeah, but listen, and here's the thing. We don't know
if it's going to go under five because we know
that that's the thirty year fix is very much tied
to the ten year treasury. The ten year treasury today
like right now, is treating at three point seven percent.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
So add three six and a half.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And if you look at that compared
to like let's say July middle of the summer, it
was trading at four point four percent.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
I was the yield.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
So what that tells us is that in July, that's
when Jerome Powell Fedshair said I'm going to lower rates.
So what the market did was kind of start baking
in that rate lowering earlier, which is why rates began
to come down at the end of the summer, because
they knew it was coming. They knew that we weren't
going to stay in the five and a half five
and a quarter percent forever. So knowing that, the yield
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began to decrease, and the yield on the thirty year
treasury got a little bit better for people. Excuse me,
the thirty year fix got a little bit better for people.
So again, this isn't going to drop massively below like
five percent anytime soon. It's going to continue to trickle down.
It will come down more. But I think if you're
hoping for like I'm going to enter the market when
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it hits like three and a half percent.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
I don't think that's ever going to happen. Period. But
I'm looking for the del Jarno real index number, and
I really think if somebody's thinking about, gee, you know,
the refinancing is a personal thing. Everybody's going to have
to answer themselves because it just depends where you're at.
If you're sitting with a good portion or all of
your mortgage in the twos or threes, you're you're just done.
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It's never you should never leave. I mean for that reason.
But if you got stuck with a high interest rate
and you're wondering where to refinance for right now, everybody
in the in the sevens to eight you should I
think by spring everybody probably six enough should have done
it by then. But under six, I don't know that
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you're ever going to.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
I don't know that you're ever going to. And also,
let's not call it the del giorno.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
The reason I'm.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
Gonna see us. We're not giving investment advice.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
I want to know.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
I'm joking, you know what I'm getting at now, everybody's
looking for what that number is. Anyway, it's a step
in the right direction, but it's an exaggerated looking step
because it's coming from no movement whatsoever. All right, let's
go to Kamala Harris, just no specifics at all in
this plan. And then if you ask her any kind
of tough questions, like stephaniewhere Old did on MSNBS, she
just simply doesn't answer, We wait a minute, if you
don't have control of the House in Congress, how are
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you going to get any of this these tax increases
passed to pay for all these things you're promising, and
just completely dodged. And for some reason MSNBC finally got
tired with the hiding and plane sight and dodging. Was
she any more specific or better as she did her
big unveiling in Pittsburgh of how she's going to be
the business president?
Speaker 5 (21:24):
So her specifics, we're investment in the future of commerce. Essentially,
she wants to invest in sectors that are going to
define the next century, not this one, things like biomanufacturing, aerospace, AI, blockchain,
quantum computing. Like Trump wants to bring all the manufacturing
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jobs back from Mexico, she is taking a different position.
She's like, we don't need those, we need investment in
new jobs. And it's interesting that you said that. Like
when Stephanie Rroll asked the question, what are you going
to do if you don't have the House in Congress?
I think the answer is I can't do much. No
one's like you like, that's the reality, Like you're not
like being you've anymore.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
It's called pivot. It's called it's called pivoting. And you go, well,
obviously not much. That's why these House and Senate races
are important. And then even know what states to say.
But you know, it's kind of like the raising of taxes.
You know if and she asked the question, you know, well,
you think these people are going to be excited about
you raising them their taxes and when they just potentially
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pass it out to consumers or take those jobs out
of the country, And doesn't that impact your vision for
ultimately getting manufacturing jobs brought back here and created here?
No answer, I mean, I I don't know, Aaron, and
I won't call this an index either and get a sued,
but I don't know if this is an MSNBC shot
across the bow door handlers, would you please prepare your
candidate to answer some questions because we think America is
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figuring out she's a dense done.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Also, it's not a big like, it's not a big question.
It's it's not like a you know how they used
to say, like like I remember it was Paline who
was always like those gotcha questions. They love asking me
the gotcha question. Not a gotcha question because it got you.
It's it's a it's a question. And I think that
this wasn't even this was a friendly question. It wasn't
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a gotcha question. It was just it got her. You
know that's the difference.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Well, what's sticking is you ask her a specific question
and you don't get an answer. And America's figured that
out now. The question is is MSNBC the first to
get frustrated and say enough, she's a Sarah Palin, I'm
Katie Kirkinger Or is this a message to her handlers?
Would you prep her a little better? This is embarrassing
and we're going to lose, and.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
They're a betty woman. I'd say the latter. But I
don't even think that they were like trying to like
be in an upper hand. I actully think they were
just writing a question, like I don't think this is
a hard question because the answer is not much, which
is why those Senate races are important. That's it, Like
every like this isn't a trick question. That's the answer
to the question, Like this is a simple one to answer,
and no one's mad at you for saying that.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
And sometimes Aaron, isn't the simple answer the right answer. Yeah,
this is why more and this is why they hide her.
This is why she doesn't do interviews. Kamala a disaster.
Biden kind of charming on the view though the view
has no credibility, and it was a big love fest,
and he kind of did shank Kamala a little bit.
But I think that's the right trying to see that
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more than the American people are going to connect that.
I have a suspicion of these three. Milania might be
the story today on Fox and Friends, but time will tell,
all right, for sure, more platitudes, no specifics. Is the
media getting frustrated or trying to get her handlers to
get her better prepared, We'll never know. But she unveiled
her new plan for businesses. But I don't even know
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how to assess it because it ain't much of a plan.
I don't get it.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
There is an eighty two page policy blueprint. It does
summarize for economic proposal. It has been put up on
the website. I've gone through it. It is a lot
of the big points we've been talking about. She also
wants to offer tax credits to extend, like union jobs
for iron steel obviously all very important to Pennsylvania. So
I just want to like throw that out there that
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like this isn't.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
That was more campaigning, vague campaign not leadership, and certainly
nothing that would make you feel that this person's ready
to govern and make it so, not say it make
it so. I don't think there was any of that,
And I'm trying to play it straight and in the middle,
but it's frustrating. Maybe we should run for president after
we're done getting sued for our new del Jorna reality
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Aaron Ram great reporting, we'll talk again.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
Well, they're just waking up all eyes throughout Hurricane Heleen
or cast to make landfall in Florida's Big Ben region
late Thursday as a Cat four and because of its trajectory,
could be a weather occurrence quickly for even as far
north as Atlanta, Georgia.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
The storm surge a great concern for the Florida coastline.
As I mentioned, former First Lady Milania Trump is going
to sit down a rare interview with Fox and Friends.
This was taped yesterday, I believe to air today. I
don't think it's so much about her book coming out
on October eighth as an assassination attempt on her husband.
I since there could be some surprises in this interview,
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I'm putting an asterisk by it and saying it might
be mussy TV. We'll certainly have the highlights for you tomorrow.
Vice President Harris discussing the economy and an exclusive interview
with MSNBC didn't go very well. The very person interviewing
went on another show on MSNBC bashing her for not
answering direct questions, and federal prosecutors are expected to unseal
a criminal indictment against the New York City Mayor Eric Adams.
(26:36):
I think the technicality of the indictment is going to
probably have to do with money from Turkey. But is
this really about him exposing the reckless Democrat policies on
the border and immigration and the havoc It's reeking in
his city and not playing long well. So the party
itself turned on him, just asking and tonight the Cowboys,
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which will play the Giants? Which a good game could
break out on Thursday Night football. He got very speed
with the top stories. It could be garbage, very likely
to be garbage too. Ukrainian President Zelensky's going to be
meeting with President Biden today. I wonder what they're going
to talk about. John Decker, white House correspondent for Your
Morning Show, joins us.
Speaker 7 (27:22):
Next this esteem the wrestler, a refugee from the People's
Republic of Minnesota, and my morning show is your Morning
Show with Michael del John.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
I was doing great this morning until Jeffrey goes, are
you okay? And then my whole day collapsed. Well, I mean,
you know, I will creak. It is Hurricane Helena immediately
became a cat too, on its way to being a
cat for I know, I'm gonna cut myself shaving today
because everything's gone wrong since you said that to me.
I can only imagine what's going to happen to John
Decker today. All Right, the Ukrainian president is going to
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be meeting with President Biden. I think I know what
they're going to talk about. But you're the your Morning Show,
White House correspondent and Supreme Court bar attorney. What do
you think is going to be the fly on the
wall chatter today?
Speaker 8 (28:11):
Well, it's no secret that the President of Ukraine recognizes
that things will look a lot different as it relates
to US policy concerning Ukraine's war that it is having
with Russia. If Donald Trump is elected the next president,
and so he's having two separate meetings today, one with
President Biden his national security team, as well as a
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separate one with the Vice president. She could become the
next president, the next commander in chief, and what he
will talk about is what his war aims are, what
he would like from the United States between now and
the time that President Biden leaves office, and that commitment
I think is really important to him. That being said,
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you know what President Biden has said, Michael, is that
all of the appropriated funds, all of the assistant for
Ukraine will be out the door before President Biden leaves office.
But things could change dramatically if Donald Trump becomes the
next president, the next commander in chief.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
All Right, I'm not going to play the sounder that goes.
Let's get it down because I don't want I don't
mean this to be a fight. I mean this to
be a question. All right. If if you were going
to be suspicious of Jade Vance, that'd be one thing,
because he's taken some pretty strong stance about wars abroad.
I don't know that that's accurate for Donald Trump. Donald
Trump's statements in context are this war would have never
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happened if I were president, and if I'm elected president,
I promise I'll end this war before I even take
the oath of office, meaning that he would get on
the phone with Putin and negotiate an end. So it
hasn't really been a I'm not going to support you.
It's if I'm elected, I will end it. I would
think Zelenski wouldn't mind an end of the war, would he?
Speaker 8 (29:55):
Well, how does the war end?
Speaker 3 (29:57):
You know?
Speaker 8 (29:57):
Is Ukraine's seating territorial sovereignty to Russia. Is that how
the war ends? I think that you have to dig
a little bit deeper. Oh absolutely, I agree with the
way of knowing whether or not Donald Trump, if he
was president, which he wasn't, whether the war would have happened,
whether Russia would have invaded the territorial sovereignty of Ukraine.
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And you know, I got a bridge to sell you
if you believe that the war but in all fairness.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
But an all fairness. I just want to interject it
because I want I have to represent everybody here in
the room. If if we don't know that. We also
don't know that if Putin doesn't end the war, that
Donald Trump wouldn't choose sides with a sovereign not just
for the sovereignty of Ukraine, but for the stability of
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the Eastern Bloc and Poland and other nations. We don't
know that he wouldn't support it either.
Speaker 8 (30:50):
Okay, I don't know what to tell you. So we
know that that the foreign policy of the US government's
going to look different if Donald Trump becomes an next
president that we can all agree on, and I think
that those are the strong backers of Ukraine in Congress,
including many Republicans, recognize that the kind of support that
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Ukraine has received for the past two and a half
plus years would likely change dramatically if Donald Trump becomes
the next president. You know, I think that the policy
continues if Harris is elected president in November. But you know,
this is an important meeting for President Zelensky because you know, look,
he has to think about what the future looks like
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for his country.
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Speaker 1 (00:39):
All right, time to put that snooze alarm behind you,
Rise and shine early bird gets the worm. Don't be
the sleepy squirreling miss the not. Welcome to Thursday, September
the twenty sixth, the Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty four,
on the air and streaming live on your iheartradiof This
is your morning show. I'm Michael, that's Jeffrey. You're just
waking up. All eyes are on Hurricane Helene forecast to
(00:59):
make landfall in Florida's big Ben. Isn't it interesting? Florida's
Big Ben Indiana South Bend right should have been the other.
The way around right runs by the Big Lake and
the others the south. That makes perfect sense. The problem
with that arrival when you're a cat for storm with
outer bands already over the Georgia border. When you make landfall,
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this becomes a hurricane event. For non traditional hurricane places
like Atlanta and as far north as Atlanta, storm surge
is the big concern. This is a deadly storm surge
making landfall in the Big Bend area. Then you've got
the winds, the power outages, the tornadoes that can be
associated with it. A weather event is coming, and you
say walls of water earlier, and that's crazy. Can you
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imagine there's a scene in San andreas the movie right,
and they have the tsunami that hits after the earthquakes.
But I mean, you know, twenty feet is two full stories.
That's four me of water coming at you. And I
can tell you after her King Katrina, my dad had
a place in Bay Saint Louis, which is right on
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the Gulf coast and maybe I don't know, half a
mile from shoreline or less, and after Katrina, because that
initial storm surge, everything's gone, and I mean gone, like
it was never there. It doesn't look like you know,
(02:29):
oh you'll see a pipe here and there. I mean
even the slab was like clean. They found some of
their stuff fifteen miles as far as fifteen miles away.
It's just unthinkable. But yeah, wall of water is it's
tough to survive. So it's a cat for that's big.
(02:50):
The trajectory I think makes it an inland problem more.
But that storm surge is a headline in and of itself.
Former First Lady Milania Trump is going to sit down
with Fox and Friends. She's not just talking about her book.
She addresses the assassination attempt on her husband. Meanwhile, Joe
Biden was on the View yesterday, a very relaxed Joe Biden,
very probably the most lovable I've seen Joe ever, maybe
(03:13):
because when he was younger he was very much a senator,
very much a club of one hundred Scranton. Joe got
blades rising and a little squirrely, but I was tough.
I was tough. I always fighting fighting Joe. This was
a really peaceful I'd almost say charming, wouldn't you. Some
people think the portion where he addressed Kamala Harris has
(03:33):
had a lot of power as vice president, was purposely
linking her to the administration. Maybe even a little chop
across the knees that will leave in the eye of
the beholder. It was certainly a love fest on the view,
I will tell you that. And then there's Kamala, all right,
so we know they're hiding Kamala and plain sight. I
(03:55):
think when I say we, I mean the American people.
I think the American people have connected that dot. They
may just they were honest with themselves with a lie
detector on. They just hate They hate Donald Trump so
much they're willing to buy it and play long.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Now.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
I don't know how that translates in terms of energy
on election day. Unity and energy is what drives turn out.
And I don't think it's real. And I don't know
hating somebody or being afraid of somebody is enough to
motivate all could be poles suggest it is, could be
in reality, and could be enough in waves for early voting.
(04:32):
But there's no genuine enthusiasm for her. There's no one
believing the storylines. Translation, they haven't been getting away with it,
but they might. They hit Joe in a basement during
COVID and got away with it. They're hiding Kamala in
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plain sight. Will they get away with it? Time will tell?
Are your Morning sho Bookie from the sports book chimed
in earlier and the odds are all flowing in Donald
Trump's favor. So the more the betting community looks at this,
the more Donald Trump is the favorite. But here's the
bottom line. Normally, what would happen is if you had
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a puppet candidate, the media would expose it. They would
make sure you don't miss it, because a puppet candidate
becomes a puppet office holder. Now that almost doesn't even
apply in twenty twenty four because most of America doesn't
buy Joe Biden's really running the presidency because he's not.
(05:39):
Probably John Podesta when he's not fighting with Joe Biden
when Joe's up, That's who ran Obama for eight years,
That's who ran Clinton for eight years. That's probably who's
been running the country the last four years. But if
you remember Sarah Palin, she sits down with Katie Kirk
and Katie ends it before the election, which even happens.
(06:03):
This woman doesn't know what she's talking about. She's not
ready to be a heartbeat away from the president presidency.
But that hasn't happened with Kamala Harris. Softball after softball,
loss of credibility, loss of ratings, be damned, they give
her a free ride until yesterday. MSNBC's Stephanie Rule calls
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out Harris for dodging how she'd raise taxes twofold One
asks her the tough questions, when she doesn't answer them,
cross examines her, redirects her, eventually gives up, but then
(06:46):
does interviews on how this woman can't answer a direct question.
I like to call that she katy character. And a
preview clip of her interview with The Democrat Now Need
that aired on Wednesday, Rule pressed where Harris would get
the money to fund her pricey economic proposals if let's
(07:08):
say the Republicans control the House or the Senate and
block her quote if the GOP is controlling the Senate,
if she can't raise corporate taxes, or is she getting
the money to expand child tax credits for the working
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class that she once was, or do anything else that
she wants to do, and her answer is, we just
have to do it. Translation, I'm asking specific questions, I
want specific answers, and you're giving lines out of a speech.
So Rule interviews her, is frustrated, then goes down to
(07:52):
Cole Wallace's show and blasts CRT smitherines, that's a great
campaign promise, but the issue is if it means we're
going to just borrow again, then what we're doing is
we're just never going to address the deficit and ultimately
(08:16):
the debt. Well, Stephanie, welcome to that party. You can't
spend your way out of a spending problem. You can't
debt your way out of a debt problem. Barack Obama
proved it. Trump proved it, Biden proved it. Apparently not
to Kamala Harris. Just days ago, Rule argued that Harris
didn't have to answer tough policy questions because she wasn't
(08:37):
running for perfect she was running against Donald Trump. Now,
if the nuance is I don't have to win votes,
I just need to scare people from Donald Trump. Well
that's a tragic strategy and that's certainly in play. But
she certainly changed her tune and now she's basic outing her.
(09:00):
You ask her a direct question. If she doesn't answer, so,
what's the difference up until now? And I always say,
never underestimate the American people, especially you and I. Just
when we get so frustrated and so afraid, the American
people remind us and never let us down. They see
through it. They're always smarter than the politicians think. They
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know you're hiding her in plain sight. They know she's
a puppet, and they know she'll be a puppet as
a president. They know she's clueless, they know she would
be potentially the most weakest resume and president ever. It's
(09:46):
just measuring and weighing fear of Trump versus fear of her.
And that's why it's a close race. But this is
the first time or maybe the seed of the media
or a few in the media with some journalistic integrity
for her grace period in honeymoon ending. In other words,
(10:07):
maybe a shot across the bow. We don't think she
can win being hit in plain sight. Somebody teach this
woman how to answer a direct question and a redirect question,
a cross examination question. For God's say she's a prosecutor.
Have her memorize some answers. Because Stephanie Rule just buried
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her But it begs the question when even the most
liberal media outlet like MSNBC is questioning how Kamala Harris
will administer policy in a divided government and she can't
(10:47):
answer the question, what on earth would that administration look like?
If a candidate can't answer a question, Now, are they
going to answer questions and news conferences if they can't
be trans parent now as a candidate, are they gonna
be transparent as president? If they can't lead their party
in a race, how they going to lead their party
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in governing? Rule later suggested that the idea of Harris
sitting down for a tough interview that would extract specific
policy proposals is as out of reach as nirvana. I mean,
why is commonly even running for president? He's not a
(11:34):
very artful dodger. So whether a member of the press
points it out or not, the American people can connect
the dots. The question is, in this particular case, is
there time running out or beginning to collectively run out
with an already biased dead journalism. Well, that just depends
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on if Stephanie Rule is the tip of the ice
or the beginning of a trend or just an isolated
case and a shot across the bow of those who
are running this campaign to step it up, because you're
gonna lose if you don't. There was a line in
what was the movie? Where it was the breakthrough for
(12:23):
Ben Affleck and what was it called? Robin Williams? Do
you remember the name of it?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Now?
Speaker 1 (12:33):
My brain? But he's just staring off into space while
Robin Williams is counseling and he's just staring at what
are you looking at? All these books? We got all
these books. Nobody's reading the right ones. There's a lot
of noise, there's a lot of voices, there's a lot
of information, just isn't often a lot of understanding. And
(12:58):
in the end, even without it, I think people are
starting to figure it out. It was a good will hunting, right,
good will hunt? Yeah, good will hunting. Get distracted. I
get lost in everything today. I don't know what you know.
You're right, I'm not doing good. It's been very busy today. Well,
I'm having a tech day where nothing works and it's
(13:19):
distracting me. So the question is is this the tip
of the iceberg or an isolated incident? And will they
step up per game? It doesn't seem like it's capable
of stepping up. It really doesn't. And that's shocking to
me because you would think anybody could be a better
puppet than that.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
If you will, this is your morning show with Michael Deltno.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Remember, if it's your morning show, it's got to have
your voice. We had your morning show. Bookie call in
earlier with the latest odds on the presidential race. Never
mind polling. Talk to my bookie.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Do we have the latest I just have to give
you these morning betting odds on the presidential race. She's
down a minus one oh two. Trump is plus one
oh five. I'm predicted by Monday, Trump will be a
betting favorite.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Right now, it's a push. Do people really bet this time?
They must have to? Yeah, yeah, there's somebody online right now.
Give me a Trump tester two tem Barley, give me
a three te dser and ad Cruise. I mean, this
is sick. How do you play that stuff? But isn't
it funny? The polls and the betting odds all have
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this a push right now, but trending towards Trump and
away from Kamala Harrison. I don't think yesterday's interview on MSNBC,
did Harris any favors. Meanwhile, Biden was on the view.
Some took a certain section of it as kind of
a little uh, what do they call it in prison?
A shank when they shank you for the knife. At
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least that's how some have taken it, the links to
Kamala Harris and the amount of control she was given
by Biden, and how that could be construed as really
support for Donald Trump. Here's how Dana Prino put it
on The Five.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
I never thought that Joe Biden would make a political
contribution to the Trump campaign, but he did so today
because I don't think there's anyway the Harris people thought
that this was going to be a good idea, he says.
As vice president, there wasn't a single thing that I
did that she couldn't do, and I was able to
delegate her responsibility on everything from for a policy to
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domestic policy.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Other than that, it was just a big love fest
in general. Of course, all eyes are and Hurricane Helen
forecasted to be a cat for and she makes land
for landfall in Florida's Big Ben later tonight. But because
of the trajectory, because of the intensity of the storm surge,
eyes are on Florida and beyond even into Atlanta. And
we're sorry to see the drop in interest rates fueling
(15:59):
some mortgage refinancing. I guess that's some good news. And
Kamala Harris is unveiling a new plan that sheie holds
will sway businesses away from Trump. Not a lot of
specifics as usual, but always specific. Is Aaron Rayale joining us?
Speaker 5 (16:12):
Good morning, Aaron, Good morning, Michael. How are you, my friend?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
My guests would be These are the people that didn't
have any choice, they were stuck at I don't know
what was the highest. Some people might have had close
to seven right.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
On mortgages exactly.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
And so now that we're seeing them refinance, I don't
think there's anybody sitting with obviously twos and threes refinancing
yet or but how much of this is people? Okay?
I think now I'd be willing to pay this interest
rate and move. So are we seeing moving or refinancing
from those with high ones?
Speaker 5 (16:46):
We're moving from refinancing with us with high ones. And
while like if you look at the numbers, the surge
is twenty percent from last week, but like last week,
no one was getting a new mortgage. So like these
numbers are kind of deceding. They say that that demand
was one hundred and seventy five percent higher than a
year ago the same week. Yeah, of course, because they
were like seven percent a year ago. But if you
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they say not to refily unless you're going to get
seventy five basis points cut off because there's a lot
of fees that are associated with thirty five. So like,
unless you're going to get enough to justify the fees,
and if you are, then you should for sure. Because
but outside of that, wait, wait, and while we do
know that the REFI was up twenty percent, this is
for the thirty year fixed mortgage. Actual applications for new
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homes up just one percent last week. So what that
tells us, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
What I was just going to say is, and I'm
going I like to do this because then you go,
that's very good because I'm a good guess. But I
see all that somewhere around six point twenty five or higher,
you should be looking at it.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and right yeah, listen, and currently, right now,
the decrease for the fixed rate conforming loan with a
balance of like around seven hundred thousand or less, that's
gone down to six point one.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Okay, well then I am then I'm off. Then that
wouldn't be good enough. I would say sit tight on
that unless you were seven, and i'd say seven or higher.
So we're getting closer because we're all trying to figureut
what that magic number is. It gets this thing really moving.
I don't think we're there yet. There's some movement for
people in really bad situations in the sevens. And do
you think anybody's sitting with an eight?
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Uh yeah, someone with bad not bad guarded but yes, all.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Right, so yeah, so something the sevens and eights might
see this as a good time to move. But that's it.
We're not really getting to what's really holding up most
of the inventory. And I still think that magic numbers
under five are right at five.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Yeah, but listen, and here's the thing. We don't know
if it's going to go under five because we know
that that's the thirty year fix is very much tied
to the ten year treasury. The ten year treasury today
like right now, is treating at three point seven percent.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
So add three six and a half.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And if you look at that compared
to like let's say July middle of the summer, it
was trading at four point four percent.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
I was the yield.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
So what that tells us is that in July, that's
when Jerome Powell Fedshair said I'm going to lower rates.
So what the market did was kind of start baking
in that rate lowering earlier, which is why rates began
to come down at the end of the summer, because
they knew it was coming. They knew that we weren't
going to stay in the five and a half five
and a quarter percent forever. So knowing that, the yield
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began to decrease, and the yield on the thirty year
treasury got a little bit better for people. Excuse me,
the thirty year fix got a little bit better for people.
So again, this isn't going to drop massively below like
five percent anytime soon. It's going to continue to trickle down.
It will come down more. But I think if you're
hoping for like I'm going to enter the market when
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it hits like three and a half percent.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
I don't think that's ever going to happen. Period. But
I'm looking for the del Jarno real index number, and
I really think if somebody's thinking about, gee, you know,
the refinancing is a personal thing. Everybody's going to have
to answer themselves because it just depends where you're at.
If you're sitting with a good portion or all of
your mortgage in the twos or threes, you're you're just done.
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It's never you should never leave. I mean for that reason.
But if you got stuck with a high interest rate
and you're wondering where to refinance for right now, everybody
in the in the sevens to eight you should I
think by spring everybody probably six enough should have done
it by then. But under six, I don't know that
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you're ever going to.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
I don't know that you're ever going to. And also,
let's not call it the del giorno.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
The reason I'm.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
Gonna see us. We're not giving investment advice.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
I want to know.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
I'm joking, you know what I'm getting at now, everybody's
looking for what that number is. Anyway, it's a step
in the right direction, but it's an exaggerated looking step
because it's coming from no movement whatsoever. All right, let's
go to Kamala Harris, just no specifics at all in
this plan. And then if you ask her any kind
of tough questions, like stephaniewhere Old did on MSNBS, she
just simply doesn't answer, We wait a minute, if you
don't have control of the House in Congress, how are
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you going to get any of this these tax increases
passed to pay for all these things you're promising, and
just completely dodged. And for some reason MSNBC finally got
tired with the hiding and plane sight and dodging. Was
she any more specific or better as she did her
big unveiling in Pittsburgh of how she's going to be
the business president?
Speaker 5 (21:24):
So her specifics, we're investment in the future of commerce. Essentially,
she wants to invest in sectors that are going to
define the next century, not this one, things like biomanufacturing, aerospace, AI, blockchain,
quantum computing. Like Trump wants to bring all the manufacturing
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jobs back from Mexico, she is taking a different position.
She's like, we don't need those, we need investment in
new jobs. And it's interesting that you said that. Like
when Stephanie Rroll asked the question, what are you going
to do if you don't have the House in Congress?
I think the answer is I can't do much. No
one's like you like, that's the reality, Like you're not
like being you've anymore.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
It's called pivot. It's called it's called pivoting. And you go, well,
obviously not much. That's why these House and Senate races
are important. And then even know what states to say.
But you know, it's kind of like the raising of taxes.
You know if and she asked the question, you know, well,
you think these people are going to be excited about
you raising them their taxes and when they just potentially
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pass it out to consumers or take those jobs out
of the country, And doesn't that impact your vision for
ultimately getting manufacturing jobs brought back here and created here?
No answer, I mean, I I don't know, Aaron, and
I won't call this an index either and get a sued,
but I don't know if this is an MSNBC shot
across the bow door handlers, would you please prepare your
candidate to answer some questions because we think America is
(22:50):
figuring out she's a dense done.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Also, it's not a big like, it's not a big question.
It's it's not like a you know how they used
to say, like like I remember it was Paline who
was always like those gotcha questions. They love asking me
the gotcha question. Not a gotcha question because it got you.
It's it's a it's a question. And I think that
this wasn't even this was a friendly question. It wasn't
(23:14):
a gotcha question. It was just it got her. You
know that's the difference.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Well, what's sticking is you ask her a specific question
and you don't get an answer. And America's figured that
out now. The question is is MSNBC the first to
get frustrated and say enough, she's a Sarah Palin, I'm
Katie Kirkinger Or is this a message to her handlers?
Would you prep her a little better? This is embarrassing
and we're going to lose, and.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
They're a betty woman. I'd say the latter. But I
don't even think that they were like trying to like
be in an upper hand. I actully think they were
just writing a question, like I don't think this is
a hard question because the answer is not much, which
is why those Senate races are important. That's it, Like
every like this isn't a trick question. That's the answer
to the question, Like this is a simple one to answer,
and no one's mad at you for saying that.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
And sometimes Aaron, isn't the simple answer the right answer. Yeah,
this is why more and this is why they hide her.
This is why she doesn't do interviews. Kamala a disaster.
Biden kind of charming on the view though the view
has no credibility, and it was a big love fest,
and he kind of did shank Kamala a little bit.
But I think that's the right trying to see that
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more than the American people are going to connect that.
I have a suspicion of these three. Milania might be
the story today on Fox and Friends, but time will tell,
all right, for sure, more platitudes, no specifics. Is the
media getting frustrated or trying to get her handlers to
get her better prepared, We'll never know. But she unveiled
her new plan for businesses. But I don't even know
(24:42):
how to assess it because it ain't much of a plan.
I don't get it.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
There is an eighty two page policy blueprint. It does
summarize for economic proposal. It has been put up on
the website. I've gone through it. It is a lot
of the big points we've been talking about. She also
wants to offer tax credits to extend, like union jobs
for iron steel obviously all very important to Pennsylvania. So
I just want to like throw that out there that
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like this isn't.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
That was more campaigning, vague campaign not leadership, and certainly
nothing that would make you feel that this person's ready
to govern and make it so, not say it make
it so. I don't think there was any of that,
And I'm trying to play it straight and in the middle,
but it's frustrating. Maybe we should run for president after
we're done getting sued for our new del Jorna reality
(25:30):
Aaron Ram great reporting, we'll talk again.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
Well, they're just waking up all eyes throughout Hurricane Heleen
or cast to make landfall in Florida's Big Ben region
late Thursday as a Cat four and because of its trajectory,
could be a weather occurrence quickly for even as far
north as Atlanta, Georgia.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
The storm surge a great concern for the Florida coastline.
As I mentioned, former First Lady Milania Trump is going
to sit down a rare interview with Fox and Friends.
This was taped yesterday, I believe to air today. I
don't think it's so much about her book coming out
on October eighth as an assassination attempt on her husband.
I since there could be some surprises in this interview,
(26:14):
I'm putting an asterisk by it and saying it might
be mussy TV. We'll certainly have the highlights for you tomorrow.
Vice President Harris discussing the economy and an exclusive interview
with MSNBC didn't go very well. The very person interviewing
went on another show on MSNBC bashing her for not
answering direct questions, and federal prosecutors are expected to unseal
a criminal indictment against the New York City Mayor Eric Adams.
(26:36):
I think the technicality of the indictment is going to
probably have to do with money from Turkey. But is
this really about him exposing the reckless Democrat policies on
the border and immigration and the havoc It's reeking in
his city and not playing long well. So the party
itself turned on him, just asking and tonight the Cowboys,
(27:03):
which will play the Giants? Which a good game could
break out on Thursday Night football. He got very speed
with the top stories. It could be garbage, very likely
to be garbage too. Ukrainian President Zelensky's going to be
meeting with President Biden today. I wonder what they're going
to talk about. John Decker, white House correspondent for Your
Morning Show, joins us.
Speaker 7 (27:22):
Next this esteem the wrestler, a refugee from the People's
Republic of Minnesota, and my morning show is your Morning
Show with Michael del John.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
I was doing great this morning until Jeffrey goes, are
you okay? And then my whole day collapsed. Well, I mean,
you know, I will creak. It is Hurricane Helena immediately
became a cat too, on its way to being a
cat for I know, I'm gonna cut myself shaving today
because everything's gone wrong since you said that to me.
I can only imagine what's going to happen to John
Decker today. All Right, the Ukrainian president is going to
(27:58):
be meeting with President Biden. I think I know what
they're going to talk about. But you're the your Morning Show,
White House correspondent and Supreme Court bar attorney. What do
you think is going to be the fly on the
wall chatter today?
Speaker 8 (28:11):
Well, it's no secret that the President of Ukraine recognizes
that things will look a lot different as it relates
to US policy concerning Ukraine's war that it is having
with Russia. If Donald Trump is elected the next president,
and so he's having two separate meetings today, one with
President Biden his national security team, as well as a
(28:32):
separate one with the Vice president. She could become the
next president, the next commander in chief, and what he
will talk about is what his war aims are, what
he would like from the United States between now and
the time that President Biden leaves office, and that commitment
I think is really important to him. That being said,
(28:54):
you know what President Biden has said, Michael, is that
all of the appropriated funds, all of the assistant for
Ukraine will be out the door before President Biden leaves office.
But things could change dramatically if Donald Trump becomes the
next president, the next commander in chief.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
All Right, I'm not going to play the sounder that goes.
Let's get it down because I don't want I don't
mean this to be a fight. I mean this to
be a question. All right. If if you were going
to be suspicious of Jade Vance, that'd be one thing,
because he's taken some pretty strong stance about wars abroad.
I don't know that that's accurate for Donald Trump. Donald
Trump's statements in context are this war would have never
(29:32):
happened if I were president, and if I'm elected president,
I promise I'll end this war before I even take
the oath of office, meaning that he would get on
the phone with Putin and negotiate an end. So it
hasn't really been a I'm not going to support you.
It's if I'm elected, I will end it. I would
think Zelenski wouldn't mind an end of the war, would he?
Speaker 8 (29:55):
Well, how does the war end?
Speaker 3 (29:57):
You know?
Speaker 8 (29:57):
Is Ukraine's seating territorial sovereignty to Russia. Is that how
the war ends? I think that you have to dig
a little bit deeper. Oh absolutely, I agree with the
way of knowing whether or not Donald Trump, if he
was president, which he wasn't, whether the war would have happened,
whether Russia would have invaded the territorial sovereignty of Ukraine.
(30:19):
And you know, I got a bridge to sell you
if you believe that the war but in all fairness.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
But an all fairness. I just want to interject it
because I want I have to represent everybody here in
the room. If if we don't know that. We also
don't know that if Putin doesn't end the war, that
Donald Trump wouldn't choose sides with a sovereign not just
for the sovereignty of Ukraine, but for the stability of
(30:44):
the Eastern Bloc and Poland and other nations. We don't
know that he wouldn't support it either.
Speaker 8 (30:50):
Okay, I don't know what to tell you. So we
know that that the foreign policy of the US government's
going to look different if Donald Trump becomes an next
president that we can all agree on, and I think
that those are the strong backers of Ukraine in Congress,
including many Republicans, recognize that the kind of support that
(31:10):
Ukraine has received for the past two and a half
plus years would likely change dramatically if Donald Trump becomes
the next president. You know, I think that the policy
continues if Harris is elected president in November. But you know,
this is an important meeting for President Zelensky because you know, look,
he has to think about what the future looks like
(31:31):
for his country.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
We're all in this together. This is your Morning Show
with Michael Nil Join up.
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