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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:21):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Three, starting your morning off right, A new way of talk,
a new way of understanding because we're in this stage.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
This is your morning show with Michael del Jong six
minutes after the hour. Thanks for waking up with your
morning show on the Aaron, streaming live on your iHeartRadio app.
And welcome to Wednesday, the second of October. I'll admit
our plate is full. The search and rescue and recovery
continues from Hurricane Helene, especially in Western Carolina. The Iran

(00:59):
bombing of Israel and the awaiting of a retaliation the
port strike enters day two, and we had a veep
debate last night with a lot of highlights and low
lights to share with you, so where to keep your
eye first. An estimated one hundred and sixty people are
now reported dead as a result of Hurricane Helene. Rescue
teams are still searching for survivors in North Carolina towns

(01:22):
devastated by the hurricane. President Biden's scheduled to visit parts
of western Carolina today. This is Bunkcom County authorities reported
Tuesday the death toll has risen to sixty, with property
damage estimated in the billions. It's day two of the
dock workers strike again. If this lingers days, not so

(01:44):
big of a deal. I mean it's there is a
big deal for some people immediately, but this lingers for
weeks or months, it could become an economic crisis. And
then the VEEP debate overall impressions, well, for one, I
think America saw a much different They saw an actual debate,

(02:05):
a substantive civil debate. Now that'll be very interesting to
see how America perceives that. David Sanati, who's a regular
contributor here on your morning show, often talks about America
wants either a talk show host, which you kind of
got in jd vance.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Last night, and a.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Former marine and a senator and a yll graduate, but
somebody that can really discuss the issues in depth, or
they want a movie star. Well you didn't get movie
star looks per se from either, but especially from walls.
But walls, of course can get substantive. Now, look, it's

(02:47):
okay if you're watching a debate and people have two
completely different views. That's why they're debating, That's why you're watching.
So I think overwhelming would be irresponsible for anybody not
to say the obvious. The big winner are the American voters.
But do they perceive that as a win. Did less

(03:10):
people watch as long as the presidential because it's not
as consequential it's the vice presidential debate? Or were they
turned off by the civility, turned off by the substantive nature?
Do we like a freak show more? In my mind,
and this is my complete analysis. Both of those men

(03:32):
last night, that wasn't an act. They know what they're
talking about. Now, I agreed with one, I disagreed with
the other. Hey, that's debates, but both of them were substantive.
Both of them are not faking it. In fact, both
of them were far more substantive than the top of
the ticket. What's America's response to that interesting to watch

(04:01):
and see the civility or do we like World Wrestling
Federation Reality TV nastiness because you didn't get it. Now
getting more substantive, both wanted to focus on not necessarily

(04:25):
us or them, people that have already made up their mind,
but undecided, especially in swing state voters. Now it gets
a little bit more specific, and the Tim Walls needs
to bridge a gap with men. JD fans has to
bridge a gap that they're bleeding with with women. So

(04:47):
for JD undecided swing state voters and primarily women. That
is why when you go back, I'm unapologetically pro life,
and I wouldn't let anybody call it a human right
because there's another individual involved, and that's the baby, and
it too should have the right to life, liberty, and

(05:08):
a pursuit of happiness. That baby was never even discussed
last night, but that wasn't the goal of the debate.
So if you'r JD vance, you're reaching undecided primarily women
in swing states. He answered flawlessly. He stayed on target
more where Walls didn't do anything to close the gap

(05:29):
with men. I didn't hear anything that was specific to
swing states. In fact, to not acknowledge that there's been
a border crisis, not a solution already might not play
well in the swing state of Arizona.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
He tended to not.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
And again I think he defended a lot in quantity
and quantity, it was all there and pointing to Kamala Harris.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
He was dutiful in that.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
But in real push comes to shove, he always came
back to Minnesota. Now there's a reason, and I think JD.
Vance pointed that out. Most brilliant thing JD. Van said
was my candidate doesn't have a plan, he has a record.
That was a huge line because that's in the back

(06:18):
of everybody's mind. The question that Kamala Harris can't answer
and hasn't been answering, is how's your life compared to
four years ago? Because everybody knows the answer. So that's
a strength to bring up record over plan. And he

(06:39):
kept with the she's been there three and a half years.
I think, subtly be interesting to see what the other
contributors say. Subtly JD. Vance's greatest victory he kept referring
to the Harris administration. First of all, I wish you
had a Biden administration. I don't even know he's home,

(07:04):
and knowing John Podesta and George Soros and everybody that's
really behind this, you don't even have that. You have
an administrative state with a couple of puppets by name
hiding it.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
You're living Dave the movie. But I digress.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
But to continue to refer to it, to make the
put Governor Walls in the uncomfortable position of having to
either distance her from this administration. Well, she was just
the vice president. She didn't do anything, oh okay, and

(07:40):
he chose to just let it be there. And then
the subtle or even in some cases subliminal effect was
they're the incumbent. Trump's the challenger. Trump is changed, They're
more of the same. That's the knockout blow. The punch
you never really saw Land was the knockout blow. And

(08:05):
I think his handling of abortion for women, suburban women
and some of these key areas of swing states, those
are the big wins. When asked direct questions, well, let's
start with Minnesota Governor Tim Walls. The question was, all

(08:27):
these programs you're talking about, even if you got Congress
to pass and would add over a trillion dollars to
the debt.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
How do you plan to pay for it?

Speaker 4 (08:33):
Kamala Harris has said, to do the things she wants
to do, We'll just ask the wealthiest to pay their
fair share. When you do that, our system works best.
More people are participating in it, and folks have the
things that they need.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
You could tax all the richest one hundred percent. That
wouldn't pay for that. It's not a trillion dollars in
taxation to gain. That's dancing around it. Most uncomfortable, but
hands down was when they brought up his misspeak he
was not in China during the deadly Teneman Square protest

(09:08):
in nineteen eighty nine, when CBS held them accountable that
here's how we responded.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
All I said on this was is I got there
that summer and misspoke on this.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
So I will just That's.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
What I've said, a lot of awkward faces, a lot
of awkward moments, China, Hong Kong, give it a free ride.
On other things, it was difference between being a coach
led a team to a high school state championship and
being a volunteer linebacker, coach, assistant or your rank or

(09:46):
were you served. There's more of a trend with him
now a Jade Vance. They wanted to hold him accountable
for previous statements he had made about Donald Trump.

Speaker 5 (09:54):
And sometimes, of course I've disagreed with the President, but
I've also been extremely open about the fact that I
was wrong about Trump.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
And of course by just bringing up one each very
clever for CBS to do, make them like both of
them equally have a problem. Well, no they don't. One
has an ongoing in real time. He may have even
had a new one. I thought it was. People will
keep pointing to this as the real human moment for
Jade Vance.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
I did not know your son witness to shooting, and
he may have. And then again.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Tim Wall says, there's proof Kamala harris economic policies work.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
Really, Kamala Harris has said, to do the thing she
wants to do, We'll just ask the wealthiest to pay
their fair share. When you do that, our system works best.
More people are participating in it, and folks have the
things that they need.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Of course, Donald Trump's somewe with the record. Vance pointed
to Harris has done nothing positive for the economy.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
She's been the vice president for three and a half years.
She had the opportunity to enact all of these great policies,
and what she's actually done instead is drive the cost
of food higher.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
When it came to the border. First of all, let
me just start on the issues alone.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
And on down to one minute.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
CBA. You know I was talking about media bias. Media
bias is carried out by the stories you cover, the
stories you ignore, the angles you choose, the angles.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
You know you ignore.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
The people you talk to, the people you don't. The
questions you ask, the questions you don't, the clips and
quotes you use, the clips and quotes you don't. That's
kind of what they did last night. I mean, the
second overall question was climate change. Dat evance didn't go
there with Biden's at his retreat, not at the White

(11:52):
House when a hurricane is arriving and people are dying
and suffering, but they don't even address any of that leadership,
the things that presidents really do, or that Kamala was
off campaigning. At least get right to global warming. Nobody suffered.
Nothing's really going on. Don't worry at all about Eastern Tennessee, Carolina, Georgia.

(12:16):
By the way, Georgia and North Carolina are the two
biggest swing states, Donald Trump must secure and last night,
if they watched, didn't help them. Jade Vance seemed far
more compassionate, and the American people are already concerned with
the a wallness of this president and vice president. But
they made the second question about climate change. Overall, there

(12:45):
was ever even a question on Ukraine, barely touched on Israel,
and not a mention of a port strike CBS was
no that it came to Hong Kong, China, but no
question about military ranking, serving in battle coaching other examples

(13:06):
of truth telling challenges. For Canada walls, there was nuances
of bias. So probably the biggest one you're gonna hear
about today this is kind of a look for was
how they used the mic mute, and that did not
play well with independent voters and focus groups. So here's
the problem for all of this charade. It worked in

(13:28):
twenty twenty when America was distracted and afraid from COVID.
You can hide a guy in a basement, you can
scare him to death, you can change election laws, catch
every legislature asleep at the state level, and governor's spooning
right next to them. But it's four years later and

(13:51):
America is wiser for being duped, not distracted by COVID,
not afraid of anything, frustrated, and you can't hide a
candidate like Kamala Harris in plain sight. I think both
veeps upstage the top of the ticket. You got an
actual debate, and it was substantive and it was civil.

(14:12):
One was a little more laser focused on who he
was talking to, which wasn't me. Could have defended the
life issue better, but he defended it perfectly for undecided
women in swing states. And that's his job to help
Donald Trump get elected. I think he did that better
than Walls and the biggest knockout punch nobody even saw.
He even got walls to allow him to position. It

(14:35):
is three and a half years of the Harris administration,
when it was really Joe Biden. We'll see what our
panel of contributors think. And you keep in mind all
morning long. If you're listening on the iHeartRadio app, there's
a little microphone you can hit it. It's a talkback button.
What you say comes to us immediately. When get your questions,

(14:56):
when get your opinions. Obviously, today's question of the day
is either what should Israel do next and should America
stand by no matter what? Or your other question is
who won the debate last night? Love to see what
the your morning audience thinks.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
This is your Morning Show with Michael del Chona.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Talk back button on your iHeartRadio app. It's a little
microphone press it. Who do you think won the debate?
Give us your answer we can share with the class.
We've talked a little bit about media bias and CBS
and I think everybody today is going to be talking
about how they said, well, we're not going to fact check,
and then they did, and Jadvance did exactly what you
should do, pointed out as it's happening. Then they muted
the mics. And it's interesting in some of the focus

(15:38):
groups you could see, in particular how much it turned
off independent voters. America ceased through all this nonsense. But
make no mistake about it, last night was a CBS
targeted debate to Democrat leaning undecided voters. Laser focused on

(16:02):
those that are about to hold their nose and vote
for Donald Trump because the economy is just too much,
the border's just too much, the wars breaking out are
just too much, and the a wall when you need
leadership is just too much. Maybe that's why climate was
the second question. Guns was heavily featured democracy, heavily featured abortion,

(16:25):
heavily featured, very little on the economy but some, very
little on the border but some hardly nothing on Israel.
No mention of the port strike, and no mention of
the Ukrainian Russian war. CBS was the loser of the night.
Both candidates were civil, Both candidates were substantive. For me,

(16:48):
I agreed with one, disagreed pretty much with the other. Visually,
I imagine if you were listening only it sounded a
lot more even than it looked, and both candidates were
far more versed civil and substantives on the top of
the ticket, Hey, gang, it's me Michael. You can listen

(17:10):
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have you listen live, but are grateful you're here now

(17:32):
for the podcast. Enjoy I could do all three hours
if I was on Middays just on Helen or just
on Aron bombing Israel and what Israel should do next,
or just on the Port strike, or just on the
veep debate, and here we are this morning, needing to
understand all of them. I would put them in orders
of priority. I always say, the epicenter of the world

(17:53):
is not America. It's the Middle East, and the epicenter
of the epicenter is Israel. I don't know about you all.
I imagine some of you will dis greed. Many of you
have been very effectively indoctrinated by Hollywood, by documentaries, by textbooks,
by curriculum and common education and higher education. I'm an
old school person. I am faith, then I'm family, and

(18:16):
then I'm country, and so that always makes Israel a priority.
I have a past with Israel, I have a present
with Israel, and I have a future with Israel. Christianity
is the fulfillment of the Old Covenant with the New Covenants.
So I always stand with Israel. They're also a very
trusted friend. They're alone democracy in the region, and they

(18:38):
are the first line of attack but you're right after that.
So you need to understand when these radical Islamis. First
comes Saturday Israel, the destruction of Israel and the killing
of every Jew. Then comes Sunday, the destruction of America
and the killing of all Christians. Why so they hidden
emom can appear, They live a few years under peaceful

(19:00):
a La rule, and then he comes and judges everybody.
That's what they're playing out, and they are a theocracy.
We said from the very beginning that this administration has
an Israel problem, and they do because most of their
party is pro Palestinian and not really very pro America,
let alone Israel. So that makes them say one thing politically,

(19:23):
and then you have to hold your breath. There will
come a day, or there could come a day when
America will not stand by Israel, and then you get
to the Book of Genesis, and then you get to
being cursed, and maybe that day comes. I don't know,
but it's not here yet.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
For me.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
They talk the political game they must because their party
is so divided. But in the end, Israel does what
she must and America does stand by. I don't know
if that changes, if it's Kamala Harris but for Joe
Biden or whoever's really running the Biden administry, they stand by.

(20:02):
It makes their rhetoric look really silly. I mean, whether
it's Hezballah, the Houthis, or there's been over eight thousand
rockets fired at Israel with the world telling Israel not
to do anything. We're coming up on one year since
their nation was invaded, their sovereignty was invaded. Their people

(20:23):
were tortured, raped, killed, kidnapped. Now what has Israel been doing?
This's brilliant targeted strikes, whether it's beepers blowing up, walkie
talkie's blowing up, taking out heads, targeted air strikes, taking
out leaders of these proxy organizations doing the dirty work
for Iran. What was significant about yesterday that I don't

(20:50):
want your morning show listeners to miss. This is Iran
crossing a line. This isn't Hamas doing it for them.
This isn't this Ballad doing it for them. This isn't
the Houthi's doing it for them. This is them launching
one hundred and eighty one missiles at Israel. Now, thanks

(21:12):
to the Iron Dome, thanks to David Sling and the
different systems, and even some assistants from the USS coal.
The one person killed was a Palestinian that got hit

(21:34):
with some trap. Most of these were destroyed before impact,
many landing in the Mediterranean Sea and across the Syrian border. Now,
just because Israel survived, it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
JD.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Vans tried to bring it up last night in the debate.
But a lot of sanctions that lifted have enriched Iran
to spend this money through these surrogates. But this was
a ran directly, not through a proxy, directly launching one
hundred and eighty one missiles at Israel. You will now
get an Israeli response, not on proxies, but on Iran

(22:18):
as you should. Is it escalation, yes, but it's necessary
and it may be the fastest. You know, sometimes in
life the only way out is through. And so for
Israel to continue targeted strikes, and I think this time

(22:41):
could be oil. They've been selling a lot of oil
to China. That would not be good if they were
taken out with strikes. Their crown jewel, what they cherish
the most is their nuclear facilities. They could be taken out.
They may continue with precision strikes to take out leadership.

(23:04):
But it won't be Hamas leadership, won't be Houthy leadership,
won't be Hesbalah leadership. It's gonna be Irani leadership. Will
the Iranan people to decide? Is this really where they
want to go? Nobody instinctively wants war, but sovereign nations

(23:26):
have a right to protect themselves and restore their way
of life. Do you think for one minute if Iran
launched one hundred and eighty one missiles at the United States,
we would do nothing. That's insane.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Now.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
I can't help but look at these things through a
biblical lens, through a geopolitical lens, and through a historic lens,
and all three tell me Israel will be fine. I
can't say the same for Iran. And we haven't even
gotten to the port strike. Day two. We haven't even
gotten the search and recovery for Helene. I mentioned it's

(24:12):
going to be a busy day today, all right, if
you're just waking up, it's forty two minutes after the hours,
and these are your top five stories of the day.
And estimated one hundred and sixty people are now reported
dead as a result of Hurricane Helene. Rescue teams are
still searching for survivors in North Carolina towns devastated by
flooding from Helene. President Biden is scheduled to visit parts

(24:35):
of western Carolina today. This is Bunkhom County authorities reported
yesterday the death toll has risen to almost sixty in
that county alone, with property damage estimated in the billions.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
In that county alone.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
The White House says Iran's attack on Israel appears to.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
Have been defeated. Mark Mayfield has more.

Speaker 6 (24:56):
National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan said the US help defend Israel,
and can continues to work with Israel to assess the
impact of Iran's attack.

Speaker 7 (25:03):
The United States military coordinated closely with the Israeli defense
forces to help defend Israel against this attack. US naval
destroyers joined Israeli air defense units in firing interceptors to
shoot down inbound missiles.

Speaker 6 (25:18):
Iran launched nearly two hundred missiles at Israel on Tuesday.
Solomon and of the US will continue to monitor for
further threats from Iran. Following the attack, Iran warned Israel
that a crushing response would follow any retaliation. I'm Marknyfield.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
A debate an actual civil, substantive debate actually happened last night.
Wonder how that's going to go over, Brian shook. As
our road to the White House.

Speaker 8 (25:44):
Road to the White House twenty twenty four, the vice
presidential debate between Ohio Senator jd Vance and Minnesota Governor
Tim Walls gave the candidates a chance to display their
policy differences.

Speaker 5 (25:57):
We don't want to blame immigrants for higher housing prices,
but we do want to blame Kamala Harris for letting
in millions of illegal aliens into this country, which does
drive up cost him.

Speaker 8 (26:07):
The two also discussed topics that included abortion, the economy, inflation,
Middle East conflicts, and more. They squared off at the
CBS event in New York City and their first and
perhaps only had to head clash of the twenty twenty
four election. It was much more low key than the
Donald Trump Kamala Harris debate in Washington. I'm Brian Shuck.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
The story you're gonna hear about throughout the day is
Donald Trump backing out of a sixty minutes interview in
primetime Special President Trump Up. By the way, if you
were Donald Trump or jd Vance, your trust of CBS
would be far less this morning than it even was
last night. But Donald Trump making clear I never accepted

(26:51):
an invitation. No, I'm not going to be there, So
sixty minutes plans to go forward alone. As far as
another debate between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump, I think
last night there's no incentive for Donald Trump to give
anybody any last taste in their mouth. A strike by
dock workers at fourteen ports from Maine to Texas could
end up crossing the US economy about a billion dollars

(27:13):
a day. Mark Mayfield is back to fill us in.

Speaker 6 (27:15):
University of Miami Economics chair David and Devanto says that
the union's request of a seventy seven percent pay raise
over the six year length of the contract seems steep,
but it compensates for inflation.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
They lost a lot of ground, like a lot of
people did during the recent inflation. You know, it reached
seven eight percent for a couple of years, and wages
for a lot of people didn't keep up.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
So there's a little bit of catch up in that.

Speaker 6 (27:38):
The union also wants a complete ban on automation, but
he says the fact is robots are coming. It wasn't
clear just how far apart both signs are. I'm Mark Mayfield.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Did anybody get the irony?

Speaker 1 (27:48):
I have a guy talking about robots with a name
like that that makes you think of mister Robotso I did?

Speaker 3 (27:54):
Oh you did? Okay? I thought I was hoping it
wasn't just me. Didn't love that show? JJ Walker, you
know who? Wilson said that Dad Jackson was petty. Actor
John Amos played the grumpy Father. He passed away at
the age of eighty four. He was known for his
roles on Good Times.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
He was also on The Mary Tyler Moore Show, in
the movie Coming to America, and West Wing. He received
an Emmy nomination for his performance in the nineteen seventy
seven ABC mini series Roots. His son announced he died
of natural causes in Los Angeles. By the way, we're
just getting word in October. His death was in August,

(28:34):
and I did not know this, although looking at him
I can see it. Amos played football for Colorado State University.
He had a triout with the Kansas City Chiefs and
the Denver Broncos. John Amos was eighty four years old.
In sports. What a shock, right, all right?

Speaker 3 (28:49):
So, first dr Eiser on the Mets and.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
The Braves because they had that unfortunate because of weather doubleheader.
How would they then finish that doubleheader, get on planes
with no rest and be able to perform Mets, no rest,
no problem. Outslugged the Brewers eight to four. They take
game one of that series. Not so much for the
Braves to fly all the way out west to take
on the Padres. Padre's up one game to nothing after

(29:18):
shutting out the Braves four to nothing, and then a
couple of shockers Royals won nothing over the O's.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
They lead one.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Game to nothing, and the Tigers beat the Astros three
to one on the road. They lead that series now
one game to nothing. Birthdays today, I don't think you
just say polices sting. Sting is just dings. Some people
get away with just one word, yes, sting. Yeah, seventy
three years old, I would have said the voice sting.
TV host Kelly Rippa fifty four and long long time ago.

(29:47):
Don McClean, singer of American Pie was born. He's seventy
nine years old today. And if it's your birthday, happy birthday.
We're so glad you were born. And thanks for waking
up with your morning show.

Speaker 4 (29:59):
I'm Joe Big and my morning show is Your Morning
Show with Michael Bill Jorno the.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Talk back button where we find Vince Hey.

Speaker 9 (30:07):
Good morning, Michael. This is Vince Jeerdanel from The Treasure.
Because I just wanted to say I thought JD. Vance
was spectacular last night. I thought that Tim Walls had
a couple of good moments as he got a little
bit more calm. But I'd love it if we as
a society could agree that a misspeak is when you
say the word nuclear wrong. It's not when you say

(30:30):
you were in Tianamen Square when you weren't actually there,
or when you say you were in combat and you weren't, or.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
What your rank was, or whether you coached a team
to a state championship or a volunteer. Leah one has
a lagora problem, if you will, And that certainly came
out last night. Very clever of CBS to do one
for Vance, one for him, like they're equal misspeakers when
one seems to have a problem getting excited and exaggerating

(30:57):
the truth. All right, we're not exaggerating on this one
national course. On an Aaron Rayal was joining us the
latest it's day two of the port shutdown and strike
with an estimate of costing US a billion dollars a day.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
That's not good.

Speaker 10 (31:12):
No, it is not good at all. And frankly, get
this stat if you want to hear another one that's
kind of concerning. For each day of the strike, it
takes nearly a week to get ports operating at normal levels. Again,
welcome day two. Here we are. We didn't have a
lot of progress yesterday. We know that the alliance that
is representing the carriers, the maritime carriers, they offered fifty
percent raises over a six year contract, but leadership of

(31:36):
the union, the Longshoreman Junion, said no, we don't want that.
They're sticking to their initial demand of seventy seven percent
pay increases over six years and then also automation. And
in some ways, Michael, the automation component might be a
harder one to square in the sense that the carriers
have had record profits. It's been exceptional. Money is money.

(31:56):
It's a lot of money, as seventy seven percent raise,
but it's money. They cannot not participate in automation when
the rest of the globe is doing it.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Seventy seven percent is a big increase, a huge increase,
you know, I mean I if I could go for that,
you know, if I want to strike to try to
get a seventy seven percent increase of what would happened,
you'd have somebody different hosting differently tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
All right. So that's a huge win.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
And of course that's more than they were willing to
give them, but there's room for that to be negotiated.
It's really the automation that's the sticking point. And even
in that and people think we're taking a side with this,
we're not. You already have a high cost of living,
a country and an economy that is fighting inflation, salaries,

(32:44):
stagnant wages, a home crisis, of border crisis, I mean,
you're teetering from inflation into recession, and something like this
it could create, if it goes on for weeks or months,
a literal crisis that becomes the story. It's not that
we're taking sides one over the other. And of course,

(33:04):
as Americans, we should take sides with our family, which
is we can't have a complete shutdown of the ability
to commerce. So, you know, it does seem like they're
getting a bit high in their demands for money. Where
I don't see any ground to be made is on automation.
And even if you want a quick wave of it now,
it's just going to keep coming.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
You know, I don't have the answer for that one.

Speaker 10 (33:28):
Yeah, listen, that's coming. And like if you're like, okay, sure,
seventy seven percent wage in grease, you acquiesced to that,
But at the same time, you might not have a
job in five years because you you decided that you
were going to allow automation. I get it, Like I
understand where they're coming from. But if you look at
this on a global scale, you mentioned the wage increases,
like this could have serious inflationary pressure. We just got

(33:48):
that under control. But you know this huge wage increase
for thousand and tens of thousand, forty five thousand strong,
that's how big a union is. That's going to add
to some to shoose the Fed. Obviously we're gonna we're
going to hear from them. The jobs report comes out Friday,
that's a big one, first Friday of every month. That
will be indicative of what happens at the next policy meeting.

(34:12):
And then this is going to be influenced by this strike.
And then finally the supply chain that will get listen,
it's been sucked out. Supply chains are humming. But so
longer this goes on, the more likely they're to be affected,
and perishables will be the first to go. Those bananas
obviously not going to be great. But yeah, so this
will be interesting to see how this went.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
And we talked, we talked yesterday. Could this be the
big October surprise. I don't know if it's going to
be an October surprise. It depends. I mean, that's if
the President continues to choose to not intervene and delay
this so cooler heads can come, you know, can get
a hold of themselves up at least till after the election.
It could cost Kamala Harris the election, and that could
be by spite and design. I don't know if this

(34:53):
is an October surprise.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
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