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San Francisco to the Your Morning Show Table. If we're
just waking up, let's start with the debate. Yeah, an
actual debate where people remain civil, were substantive and went
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back and forth making their case. There was a lot
of CBS that made it feel like three on one.
But I think for a lot of people waking up
this morning, the taste in their mouth should be different. Now,
biggest problem. Did every American dutifully watch it? No, we
have spin rooms which make me ill. I mean you
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talk about debauchery, I mean everything that is dysfunctional about
the media. Oh, they know more than you. They'll tell
you what happened. Never mind your eyes, never mind your ears.
Let us spin and tell you what really happened. That's
something you have to watch and decide for yourself. Now,
presuming you watched it, let's have a conversation. David's and aat.
(01:58):
He's the CEO of the American Policy Roundtable, host the
Public Square, which I think is the Crown Jewels. Heared
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dot comed He's a senior contributor to your morning show, David,
Let's do big picture first, an actual civil debate. Wonder
if America likes that or do they like a reality
World Wrestling Federation freak show? More?
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Excellent question, Michael. I would love to see the click
rates as far as the turn ons and the turnofs,
because I usually have to turn the debates off in about,
you know, within five minutes. I got to turn them
off for a second and get my breath back and
get my mind back because they just go from zero
to obscene in about sixty seconds. This debate actually drew
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me in. I got more curious as it went on. Now,
it started off in a very bad mode. There was
a plastic feeling about the entire CBS approach to this.
It was words like plasticized robotist time out.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
As I was watching, this is what went through my mind.
This is gonna sound like I'm being hypercritical. I'm not.
This literally came right to my mind. It looked more like,
and I'm not familiar with all of CBS's talent pool
because I don't want CBS, NBC, ABC, they lost my
trust a long time ago. But they looked like two
Saturday Night Live characters portraying fake moderators on a network.
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Then they did seem like perceived real moderators. I actually
thought that that's how over the top it was. Yeah,
I had a different way of describing it to my
wife that I can't use on the air, but that's
what it looked like to me. It was weird, So
it started off weird.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
And then I would suggest to you that you and
I have talked about this for a long time. I mean,
we're really blessed to be in the mission field of
public policy, and it's extraordinary to be doing this for
forty four years, which means this is the eleventh time
we've been through a professional review and analysis of presidential
and vice presidential debates. I look at their eyes, I
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look at the eyes of the moderate. I look as
long as I can into the eyes of the people
who are responding, and eventually you come to a place
where you realize who believes what they're saying and who's
searching for the index cards in the back of their head.
And I will tell you that a debate is one
or lost in the first two minutes based simply on
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who's more comfortable.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Than their own skin. Jd.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Vance was a walk away, mike drop period, end of
conversation to your question. Specifically, people watch when they're being
made more comfortable with the conversation, not when they're freaking
out and jd Vance walked through this with a certain
amount of enthusiasm. We haven't seen it a long time now.
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Walls wasn't awful.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I won't you know. Walls wasn't awful. He had some
awful moments, but he got better at the end. And
that doesn't mean it changed my mind on anything. It
just means, you know, he got on a roll. I
mean a good debate. I think should leave us all going.
I gotta go back and research this. That's a good debate. Yes,
and if anyone does, Walls has got real problems. We
can get him. I've tried to.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I'm doing a big picture right now. But as far
as big picture goes, it's visual. Like you were talking
about earlier this morning. America's Americans want either a talk
show host in the Phil Donahue line, or they want
a movie star somehow. Jd Vance's, well, he's made a movie. Yeah,
he's got this unusual, but it's not an act with
jd Vance. Like the person he's working for. He also
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has a record, right, and his life record shows he's
lived this stuff for real, not pretend.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I thought he did three things, very brilliant. One clip.
I just played a few minutes ago. But when he
said Donald Trump doesn't have a plan, Donald Trump has
a record, that was a really good moment. When he
talked about you're always quoting experts and relying on experts, Well,
experts are wrong on this, this, this, this, this, We
didn't rely on leadership and common sense. That was a
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strong woman. But I thought the most subliminal knockout punch
you never saw throne. He referred over and over again
to the Harris administration. David, we don't live in a democracy,
and this is not the Harris administration. We live in
a constitutional republic with three branches of government where the
people are king number one, number two. This is the
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Biden administration, though I don't think Biden is there now.
There's a lot of people that But by the way,
if once you establish it's the Harris administration and nobody
corrects that, then she owns inflation, she owns cost of living,
she owns poorest, border crisis, she owns the housing crisis.
Donald Trump is the proven change, she's the incumbent and
more of the same. That's a huge victory. And he
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never threw the punch. He just did that. And Walls
wasn't smart enough to correct him. But I thought the
biggest nuance of it all is the way he kept
not going to the obvious. You're a chronic liar, you
got a lying problem, you got an exaggeration problem, or
attacking you know your candidate didn't do this, didn't do that.
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He kept it all positive because he was focused on
the undecided woman in a swing state, and he never
budget to the point where on abortion, I was kind
of mad at him. Are you kidding me? You're going
to allow him to get away with abortion is a virtue.
Abortion is a right that baby has no say, that
baby has no right to life, liberty and a pursuit
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of happiness. We should all start paying for everybody's in vitro.
I mean, I was like yelling, or even on the
border that bill wasn't flawed. That bill wasn't gonna make
what we're doing wrong permanent and lawful. But it was
brilliant because for those that he's trying to reach, mainly female,
mainly in swing precincts, swing the districts and swing states
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that could likely swing the election, he said what was
right for them to hear, not me. He's already got me.
And in that very nuanced sense. I tell you he
won the debate unarguably. Yes he looked better, Yes he
sounded better. Yes he was eloquent, he was smart, he
was all those things. But that's why he won the debate.
Tim Wall started talking more about Minnesota than Kamala Harris's record.
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He got very out of focus.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Well, staying with the big picture as we are here,
let's also say that, in my opinion, the big winner
of the debate was Donald Trump, because what it proved
was that Donald Trump was not.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Afraid to higher up. JD.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Vance is clearly a much better debater than Donald Trump
ever will be, and JD. Vance probably has a much
firmer grip on the nuances and the practicalities of how
public policy and the law works than Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
And Donald Trump's not intimidated by that. He put CBS
at their place when he explained how a law worked.
They were trying to get a snide fact half you
know what, fact check in, and he came back and
gave him with the law really states. I think I
think he could have been tougher on whether or not
Tim Walls a son, ever, was a witness to a shooting.
I sense that, but he took the high road on that.
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He could have been tougher on a couple of issues
and he let them go. But I'm gonna say it
a different way Donald Trump. I mean, he makes cases
better than Donald Trump. But Donald Trump can get elected
better than he can making those cases. So I get that.
But Donald Trump's weakness is he's not that substantive. But
he's a leader. He doesn't have to be. He delegates,
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he surrounds himselves with good people. To your point, he'll
hire up and surround himself and then he trusts them.
John F. Kennedy did the same, but when they misled him,
John F. Kennedy had discernment and just as great as
understanding to stop it. Donald Trump didn't, and Fauci led
him into his own demise. So it's the strength and
of weakness I think for Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Well, and it's clear that in the case of Kamala Harris,
there was a lot of people asked questioning her choice
last night. Now it's not to say Tim Wallas is
a bad guy. No one's saying that. It's just that
Tim Walls is over his head. The water's too deep. Yeah, Now,
stage that's a big.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
For him too.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, and that's okay, that's okay, and he's being pretty
dog on honest about it in a lot of ways.
But he also gets very confused in regards to the
reality of the issues versus what he wants us to understand.
No more amplified than in the China moment. I will
give CBS credit. They did call the question on Walls
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lying about where he was in regards to Tieneman Square,
but I'll give jd Vance even more credit. He didn't
call him a liar. And if you notice, after Walls
made his defense, jd Vance looked at the camera, looked
into the eyes of the viewer at home, as if
to say, did you hear that? And then he said nothing.
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He just let it hang there.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Visiting with David's Andati on the debate last night, which
we hope you watched for yourself. So this isn't spin,
This is just conversation. One of our callers, Vins said earlier,
there's a difference between misspeaking, mispronouncing nuclear or as often
as done fentanyl instead of fentanyl and lying. This is
a man that has a liagra issue, all right. He's
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always exaggerating and they're longer, stronger lies. So the bottom
line is he has exaggerated his rank where he served.
He was never a coach of a championship football team.
He was a volunteer linebacker assistant. I mean, this guy
has a Na Tienaman square. This guy has a problem ongoing.
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But the American people can figure that out, and they
didn't need JD. Vance to make that uncomfortable. What CBS
tried to do clever is one for Vance, and they
could have been harsher. They could have brought up eating
cats and dogs. They didn't. They brought up what he
has said about Donald Trump. But isn't it funny how
that folded in with obviously all the prep of Tim Walls.
But they had kind of scheduled as if both are
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bumbling idiots who have misspoke. That's not the case. One
has a problem exaggerating and lying. The other had an
opinion about Donald Trump that he has since changed. That's
kind of but I think trusting the voter to sort
that out is very smart to do, and not to
name call. I agree, Well, I.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Could get myself in real trouble here today, and it's
been a while since the editions to talk, So why.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Not get me canceled in San Francisco. I have to
be honest.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
This is my eleventh time in this in this phony show.
There's no question that either one of these two candidates,
if they had been forfeit had been a four person debate,
that either one of these two candidates might have outshown
the people at the top of the ticket.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
They did did a good job, or they both did.
They were both Look. JD Vance was way better than
Donald Trump. Tim Walls was way better than Kamala Harris.
And the narrative is she did good and Trump did bad.
They both did bad compared to these two. How do
I know that JD Vance won. I'll turn on CNN
and even CNN whether by the way, a bunch of operatives.
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So you got Axel Rod obama right hand man and strategist.
You got a U can't remember his name now, Van
Jones who was his little henchman, and and Mini Meat
both saying oh that was a fake. Yeah, that was
a great performance by JD. Vans. But that's not JD
Van That's that's your clue. But watching when we go
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to the moderators of the previous debate and their conversation David,
everything you just said is not controversial. In fact, they're
admitting it right out loud right after the debate from
the spin room. I think we shouldn't lose track. Okay.
I think even in.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
The civility of the fact that jd Vance came to
this debate to land a bunch of punches, and he did.
He landed a lot of punches in between all the niceties.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
And all of that.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
And the thing that really stood out to me was
that Tim Walls did not seem prepared for it.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
They know he lost, they know, Oh my god, him
a bad guy. No, no, no, not at all, No,
not at all. And and and by the way, for Jadvance,
we created the little Boogeyman, the little paw watch, the
little tyrant, the little monster, the little weird, the little
crazy to Donald Trump, which is the big and guess
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what it didn't show up last night. That was a
nightmare for them, if anybody watched. And I don't think
it's going to be much easier for him to spend.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
This is Your Morning Show with Michael del Jonah.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Welcome to Wednesday, October the second, twenty twenty four. It's
really a four front war on understanding this morning. Search
and recovery continues for Halen victims. The death toll is
up to one hundred and sixty nationwide, in Asheville alone
now approaching a death toll of sixty. President Joe Biden
planning to visit the area today. I've said this over
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and over again. This is not a proxy war any longer.
This isn't the Houthis or Hesba Llah or Hamas attacking
Israel and doing the dirty work of Iran. This was
Iran firing one hundred and eighty one missiles at a
sovereign nation, Israel. And thank God for the Iron Dome,
the Earo three system and the David Sling and the
support of US ships and interceptors. It was ineffective. But
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you can expect now not a retaliation against Thomas has
Belah or the Houthis, but you can expect an Israeli
response on Iran. And I will say that the good
news is, while the Democrats have a political problem with Israel,
it has an impact of the United States and the
administration's ability to stand by Israel. And they were supporting
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in defense yesterday. That tells me it's a political problem,
but not a military problem yet and that's good news.
And then the port strike enters its second day at
a billion dollars a day, and then a lot of
attention on the debate last night because I think it
was a return to civility, a return to substantive issues
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and understanding and conversation and debate, and I think that
resonated with a lot of people that watched. If there
was one area that was difficult for me, this gets
to the nuance. Jade Vance was laser focused on undecided
voters in swing states and primarily women. Wall should have
been doing the same thing with men in swing states.
I think JD. Walls did a better job. Abortion was
one of those areas. If you're talking to women who
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have been freaked out about this issue, you want a
nuance your responses. So it might have been the wise
thing for a woman, it wasn't the wise thing for me.
I think the unborn child has a right to life,
liberty and a pursuit of happiness too, and its death
is not a virtue, nor is it a right, a
constitutional right. David, I want to just start with Tim Walls,
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and again they get into this whole division. Twenty twenty
five which has nothing to do with this administration. The
Heritage Foundation has been doing this for decades and decades
and decades. These are a lot of policy wonks kicking
around ideas. They keep trying to attribute this to a
Donald Trump plan that simply doesn't exist. I hope voters
can see through that. But here's the conversation on abortion
that I want to get your take on it.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Their Project twenty twenty five is going to have a
registry of pregnancies. It's going to make it more difficult,
if not impossible, to get contraception, and limit access, if
not eliminate access to infertility treatments.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Well said, infant mortality has skyrocketed. Women are dying because
they're not getting access to reproductive healthcare or even at hospitals.
And then he just kind of ultimately made this statement
about reproductive rights, not abortion, and it being a human right.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
That's nobody else's business.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
But those things are being proposed.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
And the catch all on this is is, well, the
states will decide what's right for Texas might not be
right for Washington.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
That's not how this works. This is basic human rights.
My problem with this, of course, is it is women's
rights and baby rights together being ignored. It is women
through pharmaceuticals that are going to be dying and dying
a lot. The two cases that have been most misrepresented.
These are women that took the abortion drug. They didn't
have any kind of FDA oversight, They didn't know to
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get ultrasounds and to see their doctor, and then the
babies did not release, and then they ended up sepsius
in dead. There weren't a lot of defenses for all that,
and abortions are not down, They're actually up, And that
proves Donald Trump's point. This should go to the states
and let the people decide. How did the whole abortion
thing fare out? From your mind? David Sonati joining us
from the public square.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Well, Michael, I'd be remiss if I didn't answer with
a road answer. Please visit Life dot AP roundtable dot org.
Life dot AP roundtable dot org because we've spent the
last year researching every one of the questions you just
put forward. And I can tell you that we are
going to do the best we can to reach both
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Governor Walls and Senator Vance today and ask them to
visit this site and we will send them a print
edition of this forty page research paper. What we have
discovered across this country over the last year is that
most of the people were talking authoritatively about abortion don't
know the facts about what abortion actually looks like on
the ground in America and how the laws actually work
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life dot AP, roundtable, dot org.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Now that's not nineteen seventy three anymore, nineteen sixty five,
nineteen seventy three anymore.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
And to the specific point, Governor Walls walked away from
his track record as governor when he signed a law
that basically removed six articles of Minnesota legislation that protected
a child born through an abortion process. In other words,
they survived the abortion and were there on the table.
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This happens, Michael, it happens in Florida, it happens.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
In j JD made that painful for him and said,
what am I misunderstanding? He said, it's just not there,
and it's been debunked. It's been he walked in previous debate. No,
misrepresenting the law. No, he's not. We've fact checked this one.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
The Born Infants a Live Protection Act, which was passed
in twenty fifteen in Minnesota, Governor Walls signed a bill
bas retracting those measures so that today Minnesota has one
of the most radical abortion policies in the country. Now,
the people of Minnesota have the right to that. They
chose it, and and Governor Wallis does not want anyone
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to take it away from him. But what he wants
to do is he wants to force that Minnesota law
upon everyone else through a federal mandate.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
That's not fair, that's not right.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
We've tried that for fifty years and it doesn't work. Now,
if Governor Wallas really wants to do that, and he
really believes there should be a national centralized mandate, then
I encourage him to have the courage to propose a
constitutional amendment to do that, and not hope to pack
the court so that he can get that policy adopted
through the court for the sake and the benefit of
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the abortion industry, not for the sake of the American.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Public, because that's who he's shilling for right there. It's
all a projection. Donald Trump is going to outlaw abortion
when he said he would not before a federal mandate.
Number one. Number two, he did the president former president
in crystal clear. He did what he wanted to do.
Send the standing where it belonged at the states and
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let the people vote. You happen to live part of
the year in Ohio that chose to be abortion. Most
of them are siding with abortion. Abortions are actually way up.
I mean, nothing is as it seems. The part that
bothers me the most is nobody addresses abortion today that
it will mainly be pharmaceutical, it's mainly not overseen, and
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it's mainly going to lead to a lot of women's
death and those.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Partific specific instances that Governor Walls was clearly trained to embellish.
First off, we're talking about over a million abortions a
year in the United States of America. These several cases
where the abortion pills failed and the women had not
been given the proper cure to know what to do next.
That's a tragedy that's not to be put to blame
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upon the state laws. It's upon the practice of the
abortion industry and their allies.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
That's crystal clear.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
And there's been doctor after doctor have come out to
in North Carolina, one a state rep. One of the
United States congressmen who are are medical doctors in emergency
care facilities saying this doesn't happen this way.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
That's a narrative that is a lie. It doesn't work
that way.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
And if Kamala Harris was really concerned about what Tim
Walls said, she'd have the Justice Department on the front
steps of that hospital today to solve that.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Civil suits already filed to rich rhetoric. Michael and JD.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Vance caught him on it, but in a two minute format,
he couldn't do what you and I just took five
minutes to because it takes more time. And that's that's
where this is unfair. But what's really important to note
is that Tim Walls does not understand what he's asking for.
He's actually bringing back the question that split this country
wide open in regards to the slavery issue, and he's
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basically calling for a uniform standard implemented by dictator the
Supreme Court that would basically take the choices away from
everyone and put it right back where it was. We
fought that fight for fifty years. Walls wants to go
back to a court ordered edict and to take the
rights away from everyone who disagrees with him. And there
are still a lot of people, Michael, who are not
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happy that, for example, in Minnesota, their tax dollars go
to pay for abortions.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
It is a divided issue, and when you start tyrannically
leading from either side, there's always half the room that's
not with you. That's right, yeah, so, but I don't
like how the unborn child had no voice and no
say and no standing. But I think nuanced for the
debate and who they were reaching that could make a difference.
That may have been the wise choice for Jdevance. I
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suspect he understands the things at Life dot ap, Roundtable
dot org as well as we do, but chose not
to go there last night. All right, I want to
look at the impact. First of all. I don't know
if America likes what they saw in the presidential debate
more than this civil, substantive debate. I sure hope they
liked last night better. I thought both outshine both tops
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of the tickets and their previous debate. I don't expect
any more debates because this is the taste in the
mouth Donald Trump would want, and he certainly doesn't want
to give a Kamala Harris a second chance with a
three on one with a bias network to give a
bad taste. Again, By the way, I look at the
map today. Here's the latest polling, David. And this is
all prior to this debate, which if it has any impact,
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I doubt it's going to do. And they would make
people feel better about where they're already leaning. Wisconsin is
now being led by Trump forty seven to forty six.
And I'll also mentioned in that Senate race, Baldwin's lead
is down to two. In North Carolina, Trump is now
up by two. In Georgia, he's now up by five.
Michigan is down to two. And we know how Trump
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under poles, So is he really up by one? Pennsylvania
Trump is now up by one. Arizona, Trump is now
up by three. Nevada, I have three poles that have
Trump up by one. By the way that Montana race,
Trump is up by seventeen. You wonder if that's going
to put Tester over the top. He's already doing well.
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I mean if I if I drank well, that will
put Hi over the time. I mean she he over
the top on test. Uh. Thanks for correcting me. All right,
Now we go to the map. Let's say I'm gonna
go ahead and say, of all of them, Nevad I'll
make it blue, Arizona, looks strong. Georgia and North Carolina
looks strong. Pennsylvania is probably leaning Trump right now, as
is Wisconsin. I'm gonna leave Pennsylvania off the table if
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I flip Wisconsin. If I just do the poll as
it is today, Donald Trump is two eighty five, the
Democrats have two thirty four. And then if you take
Pennsylvania and it goes red, it's three oh four to
two thirty four. And then if I give Nevada to Trump,
which is probably how it's going to turn out, three
ten to two twenty eight. This map is breaking towards
Donald Trump, and I don't think anything bridge that gap.
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Last night for.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Sure, Well, at this stage in the game, we've got
about thirty five days till it's.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Over, and the voting has already begun.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
So momentum is critical now the big question, and I'm
sure if you're not to it by the end of
this broadcast, she'll be it.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
You'll be at it.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
First thing tomorrow is if they feel that momentum is
shifting away, what will the Democrats do next? They will
make one more play to try to claim that momentum back.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
If in fact it is shifting at that level, their
problem might be the October surprise. Is this port strike
and what that would do to the economy on their watch.
And it's Joe Biden that is simply not intervening. He
could have held this off with the Taft Hartley till
after the election. He's choosing not now. Is that union Joe?
Or is that you know what, Matt Joe a spiteful
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Joe for what they did to him, Because I think
it could tip the scale of this election. It could
be the ultimate October surprise they can't overcome.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
As possible are or they might yet be the transition
from the vice president to the presidency. We don't know,
We don't know how desperate the team that's really running
this which is Podesta and Soros and Sandler as well.
Because remember the article that came out that blew up
everything on the abortion question that was quoted by Tim
Wallas last night, came out from Pro Publica, which is
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an organization very closely aligned to John Podessa and George Soros.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Who are really running the country. By the way, if
you take Nevada, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania put them undecided, you
give the red where the red is and the blue
where the blue is it's already two seventy five, David,
They're already at that desperate point if they've got another
more optimistic than me. But I love I love your
I can't fault your logic. At the moment. I can
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make all those blue Wisconsin blue, Pennsylvania blue, Nevada blue.
It's still to eighty one to two fifty seven. If
they got a card if their sleeve, they're getting ready
to play it. I think that's right, all right, David, fascinating.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
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Speaker 1 (27:48):
The big story yesterday in the big visual was one
hundred and eighty one rockets being fired at Israel. And
now the world awaits what Prime Minister bb Net and
Yaho will do next, says Iran will pay. I have
made this point pretty crystal clear. Up until now, it's
been a proxy war, and we all know it's been
about Iran. But they've been using proxies, whether it's Huthi's
(28:10):
Hesblah or Amass, and the retaliations and responses have been
towards the proxies. But this was Aran firing directly from
Iranian soil on israel I suspect the response will be
directed towards them. Jack Crowley is joining us, Jack Boy,
kudos to the Iron Dome and the Arrow three system
(28:32):
and David Sling and assistance of US battle carriers. No harm.
But that was one hundred and eighty one missiles. There's
going to be a response, right without a doubt.
Speaker 6 (28:42):
The question is going to be, like you said, to
what degree the response will be, what's going to be targeted,
Whether there would be things targeted directly in Iran with
a public attack, or you know, maybe something a little
more secretive like what we saw with the pagers exploding,
or potentially some sort of cyber hack to further affect
Iran's nuclear capability. Least, it's really a lot of question
marks right now.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
So what have they done so far? They've addressed the
proxies and so the pagers in the walking talks which
sends a message. Israel's been sending constant messages even with
the flying of its planes, to show them we can
get to you with the precision air strikes, with the
walkie talkies, with the pagers, we can decapitate your leaderships,
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and we can even do it on your soil. Then
they have the ground force movement. I mean, what could
we expect targeted air strikes on Iran? What might that be? Well,
their crown jewel is their nuclear development. You could take
those out. They're oil that they've been selling to China,
you could take that out. Sanctions have been lifted, they
could be reinstated. But targeted air strikes is what I
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suspect is coming. The question is where or all I'm thinking.
I'm thinking either oil or nuclear refinement centers are indeed
dodo right now.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
Yeah, I mean maybe a little bit from column may,
a little bit from column be. You know, certainly, if
there was any effort made to impede Iran's oil capabilities,
that's going to have some larger global implications. Both Brent
crude and WTI, which is the US benchmark, both closed
about two percent higher yesterday after the missile attack. It's
a lot of weight and seeing right now, there is
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a starting to be a little bit of consensus among experts,
at least as far as what Iran's intent was with
that missile attack yesterday, was that it was a relatively
measured I mean, again, we're talking about nearly two hundred
ballistic missiles, which is different than drones that have rocket
powered you know, grenades and traditional missiles. But the idea
that it was maybe more of a measured response that
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was specifically there to send a message that look, here's
what we can do. Iran knows that it can't beat
Israel in an ad ad war, but Iran wanted to
at least be able to reflect and show here's what
we can do. And it's a little bit better than
what you thought.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Yeah, I think you know, everything's about managescalation, managescalation. Israel's
determined to eliminate threat to secure its way of life
and the security of its people. That's one hundred and
eighty one missiles not fired by proxies. That was the
terrorist attack in the north that was done by proxies.
There's going to be a direct response and it's going
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to be on Iran, and I think if people want
to view that as escalation, view it as that. One
thing I will say about the United States, they've got
a political problem supporting Israel, but they don't have a
military problem. The United States was there and this administration
was there. When push comes to shove to stand by Israel.
That was encouraging to me, but all eyes would be
on the Middle East and when
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San Francisco to the Your Morning Show Table. If we're
just waking up, let's start with the debate. Yeah, an
actual debate where people remain civil, were substantive and went
(01:16):
back and forth making their case. There was a lot
of CBS that made it feel like three on one.
But I think for a lot of people waking up
this morning, the taste in their mouth should be different. Now,
biggest problem. Did every American dutifully watch it? No, we
have spin rooms which make me ill. I mean you
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talk about debauchery, I mean everything that is dysfunctional about
the media. Oh, they know more than you. They'll tell
you what happened. Never mind your eyes, never mind your ears.
Let us spin and tell you what really happened. That's
something you have to watch and decide for yourself. Now,
presuming you watched it, let's have a conversation. David's and aat.
(01:58):
He's the CEO of the American Policy Roundtable, host the
Public Square, which I think is the Crown Jewels. Heared
on two hundred stations on demand anytime at the Public Square,
dot comed He's a senior contributor to your morning show, David,
Let's do big picture first, an actual civil debate. Wonder
if America likes that or do they like a reality
World Wrestling Federation freak show? More?
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Excellent question, Michael. I would love to see the click
rates as far as the turn ons and the turnofs,
because I usually have to turn the debates off in about,
you know, within five minutes. I got to turn them
off for a second and get my breath back and
get my mind back because they just go from zero
to obscene in about sixty seconds. This debate actually drew
(02:43):
me in. I got more curious as it went on. Now,
it started off in a very bad mode. There was
a plastic feeling about the entire CBS approach to this.
It was words like plasticized robotist time out.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
As I was watching, this is what went through my mind.
This is gonna sound like I'm being hypercritical. I'm not.
This literally came right to my mind. It looked more like,
and I'm not familiar with all of CBS's talent pool
because I don't want CBS, NBC, ABC, they lost my
trust a long time ago. But they looked like two
Saturday Night Live characters portraying fake moderators on a network.
(03:24):
Then they did seem like perceived real moderators. I actually
thought that that's how over the top it was. Yeah,
I had a different way of describing it to my
wife that I can't use on the air, but that's
what it looked like to me. It was weird, So
it started off weird.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
And then I would suggest to you that you and
I have talked about this for a long time. I mean,
we're really blessed to be in the mission field of
public policy, and it's extraordinary to be doing this for
forty four years, which means this is the eleventh time
we've been through a professional review and analysis of presidential
and vice presidential debates. I look at their eyes, I
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look at the eyes of the moderate. I look as
long as I can into the eyes of the people
who are responding, and eventually you come to a place
where you realize who believes what they're saying and who's
searching for the index cards in the back of their head.
And I will tell you that a debate is one
or lost in the first two minutes based simply on
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who's more comfortable.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Than their own skin. Jd.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Vance was a walk away, mike drop period, end of
conversation to your question. Specifically, people watch when they're being
made more comfortable with the conversation, not when they're freaking
out and jd Vance walked through this with a certain
amount of enthusiasm. We haven't seen it a long time now.
(04:42):
Walls wasn't awful.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I won't you know. Walls wasn't awful. He had some
awful moments, but he got better at the end. And
that doesn't mean it changed my mind on anything. It
just means, you know, he got on a roll. I
mean a good debate. I think should leave us all going.
I gotta go back and research this. That's a good debate. Yes,
and if anyone does, Walls has got real problems. We
can get him. I've tried to.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I'm doing a big picture right now. But as far
as big picture goes, it's visual. Like you were talking
about earlier this morning. America's Americans want either a talk
show host in the Phil Donahue line, or they want
a movie star somehow. Jd Vance's, well, he's made a movie. Yeah,
he's got this unusual, but it's not an act with
jd Vance. Like the person he's working for. He also
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has a record, right, and his life record shows he's
lived this stuff for real, not pretend.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I thought he did three things, very brilliant. One clip.
I just played a few minutes ago. But when he
said Donald Trump doesn't have a plan, Donald Trump has
a record, that was a really good moment. When he
talked about you're always quoting experts and relying on experts, Well,
experts are wrong on this, this, this, this, this, We
didn't rely on leadership and common sense. That was a
(05:58):
strong woman. But I thought the most subliminal knockout punch
you never saw throne. He referred over and over again
to the Harris administration. David, we don't live in a democracy,
and this is not the Harris administration. We live in
a constitutional republic with three branches of government where the
people are king number one, number two. This is the
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Biden administration, though I don't think Biden is there now.
There's a lot of people that But by the way,
if once you establish it's the Harris administration and nobody
corrects that, then she owns inflation, she owns cost of living,
she owns poorest, border crisis, she owns the housing crisis.
Donald Trump is the proven change, she's the incumbent and
more of the same. That's a huge victory. And he
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never threw the punch. He just did that. And Walls
wasn't smart enough to correct him. But I thought the
biggest nuance of it all is the way he kept
not going to the obvious. You're a chronic liar, you
got a lying problem, you got an exaggeration problem, or
attacking you know your candidate didn't do this, didn't do that.
(07:05):
He kept it all positive because he was focused on
the undecided woman in a swing state, and he never
budget to the point where on abortion, I was kind
of mad at him. Are you kidding me? You're going
to allow him to get away with abortion is a virtue.
Abortion is a right that baby has no say, that
baby has no right to life, liberty and a pursuit
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of happiness. We should all start paying for everybody's in vitro.
I mean, I was like yelling, or even on the
border that bill wasn't flawed. That bill wasn't gonna make
what we're doing wrong permanent and lawful. But it was
brilliant because for those that he's trying to reach, mainly female,
mainly in swing precincts, swing the districts and swing states
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that could likely swing the election, he said what was
right for them to hear, not me. He's already got me.
And in that very nuanced sense. I tell you he
won the debate unarguably. Yes he looked better, Yes he
sounded better. Yes he was eloquent, he was smart, he
was all those things. But that's why he won the debate.
Tim Wall started talking more about Minnesota than Kamala Harris's record.
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He got very out of focus.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Well, staying with the big picture as we are here,
let's also say that, in my opinion, the big winner
of the debate was Donald Trump, because what it proved
was that Donald Trump was not.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Afraid to higher up. JD.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Vance is clearly a much better debater than Donald Trump
ever will be, and JD. Vance probably has a much
firmer grip on the nuances and the practicalities of how
public policy and the law works than Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
And Donald Trump's not intimidated by that. He put CBS
at their place when he explained how a law worked.
They were trying to get a snide fact half you
know what, fact check in, and he came back and
gave him with the law really states. I think I
think he could have been tougher on whether or not
Tim Walls a son, ever, was a witness to a shooting.
I sense that, but he took the high road on that.
(09:02):
He could have been tougher on a couple of issues
and he let them go. But I'm gonna say it
a different way Donald Trump. I mean, he makes cases
better than Donald Trump. But Donald Trump can get elected
better than he can making those cases. So I get that.
But Donald Trump's weakness is he's not that substantive. But
he's a leader. He doesn't have to be. He delegates,
(09:22):
he surrounds himselves with good people. To your point, he'll
hire up and surround himself and then he trusts them.
John F. Kennedy did the same, but when they misled him,
John F. Kennedy had discernment and just as great as
understanding to stop it. Donald Trump didn't, and Fauci led
him into his own demise. So it's the strength and
of weakness I think for Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Well, and it's clear that in the case of Kamala Harris,
there was a lot of people asked questioning her choice
last night. Now it's not to say Tim Wallas is
a bad guy. No one's saying that. It's just that
Tim Walls is over his head. The water's too deep. Yeah, Now,
stage that's a big.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
For him too.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, and that's okay, that's okay, and he's being pretty
dog on honest about it in a lot of ways.
But he also gets very confused in regards to the
reality of the issues versus what he wants us to understand.
No more amplified than in the China moment. I will
give CBS credit. They did call the question on Walls
(10:22):
lying about where he was in regards to Tieneman Square,
but I'll give jd Vance even more credit. He didn't
call him a liar. And if you notice, after Walls
made his defense, jd Vance looked at the camera, looked
into the eyes of the viewer at home, as if
to say, did you hear that? And then he said nothing.
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He just let it hang there.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Visiting with David's Andati on the debate last night, which
we hope you watched for yourself. So this isn't spin,
This is just conversation. One of our callers, Vins said earlier,
there's a difference between misspeaking, mispronouncing nuclear or as often
as done fentanyl instead of fentanyl and lying. This is
a man that has a liagra issue, all right. He's
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always exaggerating and they're longer, stronger lies. So the bottom
line is he has exaggerated his rank where he served.
He was never a coach of a championship football team.
He was a volunteer linebacker assistant. I mean, this guy
has a Na Tienaman square. This guy has a problem ongoing.
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But the American people can figure that out, and they
didn't need JD. Vance to make that uncomfortable. What CBS
tried to do clever is one for Vance, and they
could have been harsher. They could have brought up eating
cats and dogs. They didn't. They brought up what he
has said about Donald Trump. But isn't it funny how
that folded in with obviously all the prep of Tim Walls.
But they had kind of scheduled as if both are
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bumbling idiots who have misspoke. That's not the case. One
has a problem exaggerating and lying. The other had an
opinion about Donald Trump that he has since changed. That's
kind of but I think trusting the voter to sort
that out is very smart to do, and not to
name call. I agree, Well, I.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Could get myself in real trouble here today, and it's
been a while since the editions to talk, So why.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Not get me canceled in San Francisco. I have to
be honest.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
This is my eleventh time in this in this phony show.
There's no question that either one of these two candidates,
if they had been forfeit had been a four person debate,
that either one of these two candidates might have outshown
the people at the top of the ticket.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
They did did a good job, or they both did.
They were both Look. JD Vance was way better than
Donald Trump. Tim Walls was way better than Kamala Harris.
And the narrative is she did good and Trump did bad.
They both did bad compared to these two. How do
I know that JD Vance won. I'll turn on CNN
and even CNN whether by the way, a bunch of operatives.
(12:54):
So you got Axel Rod obama right hand man and strategist.
You got a U can't remember his name now, Van
Jones who was his little henchman, and and Mini Meat
both saying oh that was a fake. Yeah, that was
a great performance by JD. Vans. But that's not JD
Van That's that's your clue. But watching when we go
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to the moderators of the previous debate and their conversation David,
everything you just said is not controversial. In fact, they're
admitting it right out loud right after the debate from
the spin room. I think we shouldn't lose track. Okay.
I think even in.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
The civility of the fact that jd Vance came to
this debate to land a bunch of punches, and he did.
He landed a lot of punches in between all the niceties.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
And all of that.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
And the thing that really stood out to me was
that Tim Walls did not seem prepared for it.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
They know he lost, they know, Oh my god, him
a bad guy. No, no, no, not at all, No,
not at all. And and and by the way, for Jadvance,
we created the little Boogeyman, the little paw watch, the
little tyrant, the little monster, the little weird, the little
crazy to Donald Trump, which is the big and guess
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what it didn't show up last night. That was a
nightmare for them, if anybody watched. And I don't think
it's going to be much easier for him to spend.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
This is Your Morning Show with Michael del Jonah.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Welcome to Wednesday, October the second, twenty twenty four. It's
really a four front war on understanding this morning. Search
and recovery continues for Halen victims. The death toll is
up to one hundred and sixty nationwide, in Asheville alone
now approaching a death toll of sixty. President Joe Biden
planning to visit the area today. I've said this over
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and over again. This is not a proxy war any longer.
This isn't the Houthis or Hesba Llah or Hamas attacking
Israel and doing the dirty work of Iran. This was
Iran firing one hundred and eighty one missiles at a
sovereign nation, Israel. And thank God for the Iron Dome,
the Earo three system and the David Sling and the
support of US ships and interceptors. It was ineffective. But
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you can expect now not a retaliation against Thomas has
Belah or the Houthis, but you can expect an Israeli
response on Iran. And I will say that the good
news is, while the Democrats have a political problem with Israel,
it has an impact of the United States and the
administration's ability to stand by Israel. And they were supporting
(15:31):
in defense yesterday. That tells me it's a political problem,
but not a military problem yet and that's good news.
And then the port strike enters its second day at
a billion dollars a day, and then a lot of
attention on the debate last night because I think it
was a return to civility, a return to substantive issues
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and understanding and conversation and debate, and I think that
resonated with a lot of people that watched. If there
was one area that was difficult for me, this gets
to the nuance. Jade Vance was laser focused on undecided
voters in swing states and primarily women. Wall should have
been doing the same thing with men in swing states.
I think JD. Walls did a better job. Abortion was
one of those areas. If you're talking to women who
(16:15):
have been freaked out about this issue, you want a
nuance your responses. So it might have been the wise
thing for a woman, it wasn't the wise thing for me.
I think the unborn child has a right to life,
liberty and a pursuit of happiness too, and its death
is not a virtue, nor is it a right, a
constitutional right. David, I want to just start with Tim Walls,
(16:37):
and again they get into this whole division. Twenty twenty
five which has nothing to do with this administration. The
Heritage Foundation has been doing this for decades and decades
and decades. These are a lot of policy wonks kicking
around ideas. They keep trying to attribute this to a
Donald Trump plan that simply doesn't exist. I hope voters
can see through that. But here's the conversation on abortion
that I want to get your take on it.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Their Project twenty twenty five is going to have a
registry of pregnancies. It's going to make it more difficult,
if not impossible, to get contraception, and limit access, if
not eliminate access to infertility treatments.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Well said, infant mortality has skyrocketed. Women are dying because
they're not getting access to reproductive healthcare or even at hospitals.
And then he just kind of ultimately made this statement
about reproductive rights, not abortion, and it being a human right.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
That's nobody else's business.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
But those things are being proposed.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
And the catch all on this is is, well, the
states will decide what's right for Texas might not be
right for Washington.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
That's not how this works. This is basic human rights.
My problem with this, of course, is it is women's
rights and baby rights together being ignored. It is women
through pharmaceuticals that are going to be dying and dying
a lot. The two cases that have been most misrepresented.
These are women that took the abortion drug. They didn't
have any kind of FDA oversight, They didn't know to
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get ultrasounds and to see their doctor, and then the
babies did not release, and then they ended up sepsius
in dead. There weren't a lot of defenses for all that,
and abortions are not down, They're actually up, And that
proves Donald Trump's point. This should go to the states
and let the people decide. How did the whole abortion
thing fare out? From your mind? David Sonati joining us
from the public square.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Well, Michael, I'd be remiss if I didn't answer with
a road answer. Please visit Life dot AP roundtable dot org.
Life dot AP roundtable dot org because we've spent the
last year researching every one of the questions you just
put forward. And I can tell you that we are
going to do the best we can to reach both
(18:44):
Governor Walls and Senator Vance today and ask them to
visit this site and we will send them a print
edition of this forty page research paper. What we have
discovered across this country over the last year is that
most of the people were talking authoritatively about abortion don't
know the facts about what abortion actually looks like on
the ground in America and how the laws actually work
(19:07):
life dot AP, roundtable, dot org.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Now that's not nineteen seventy three anymore, nineteen sixty five,
nineteen seventy three anymore.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
And to the specific point, Governor Walls walked away from
his track record as governor when he signed a law
that basically removed six articles of Minnesota legislation that protected
a child born through an abortion process. In other words,
they survived the abortion and were there on the table.
(19:37):
This happens, Michael, it happens in Florida, it happens.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
In j JD made that painful for him and said,
what am I misunderstanding? He said, it's just not there,
and it's been debunked. It's been he walked in previous debate. No,
misrepresenting the law. No, he's not. We've fact checked this one.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
The Born Infants a Live Protection Act, which was passed
in twenty fifteen in Minnesota, Governor Walls signed a bill
bas retracting those measures so that today Minnesota has one
of the most radical abortion policies in the country. Now,
the people of Minnesota have the right to that. They
chose it, and and Governor Wallis does not want anyone
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to take it away from him. But what he wants
to do is he wants to force that Minnesota law
upon everyone else through a federal mandate.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
That's not fair, that's not right.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
We've tried that for fifty years and it doesn't work. Now,
if Governor Wallas really wants to do that, and he
really believes there should be a national centralized mandate, then
I encourage him to have the courage to propose a
constitutional amendment to do that, and not hope to pack
the court so that he can get that policy adopted
through the court for the sake and the benefit of
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the abortion industry, not for the sake of the American.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Public, because that's who he's shilling for right there. It's
all a projection. Donald Trump is going to outlaw abortion
when he said he would not before a federal mandate.
Number one. Number two, he did the president former president
in crystal clear. He did what he wanted to do.
Send the standing where it belonged at the states and
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let the people vote. You happen to live part of
the year in Ohio that chose to be abortion. Most
of them are siding with abortion. Abortions are actually way up.
I mean, nothing is as it seems. The part that
bothers me the most is nobody addresses abortion today that
it will mainly be pharmaceutical, it's mainly not overseen, and
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it's mainly going to lead to a lot of women's
death and those.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Partific specific instances that Governor Walls was clearly trained to embellish.
First off, we're talking about over a million abortions a
year in the United States of America. These several cases
where the abortion pills failed and the women had not
been given the proper cure to know what to do next.
That's a tragedy that's not to be put to blame
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upon the state laws. It's upon the practice of the
abortion industry and their allies.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
That's crystal clear.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
And there's been doctor after doctor have come out to
in North Carolina, one a state rep. One of the
United States congressmen who are are medical doctors in emergency
care facilities saying this doesn't happen this way.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
That's a narrative that is a lie. It doesn't work
that way.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
And if Kamala Harris was really concerned about what Tim
Walls said, she'd have the Justice Department on the front
steps of that hospital today to solve that.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Civil suits already filed to rich rhetoric. Michael and JD.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Vance caught him on it, but in a two minute format,
he couldn't do what you and I just took five
minutes to because it takes more time. And that's that's
where this is unfair. But what's really important to note
is that Tim Walls does not understand what he's asking for.
He's actually bringing back the question that split this country
wide open in regards to the slavery issue, and he's
(22:47):
basically calling for a uniform standard implemented by dictator the
Supreme Court that would basically take the choices away from
everyone and put it right back where it was. We
fought that fight for fifty years. Walls wants to go
back to a court ordered edict and to take the
rights away from everyone who disagrees with him. And there
are still a lot of people, Michael, who are not
(23:08):
happy that, for example, in Minnesota, their tax dollars go
to pay for abortions.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
It is a divided issue, and when you start tyrannically
leading from either side, there's always half the room that's
not with you. That's right, yeah, so, but I don't
like how the unborn child had no voice and no
say and no standing. But I think nuanced for the
debate and who they were reaching that could make a difference.
That may have been the wise choice for Jdevance. I
(23:35):
suspect he understands the things at Life dot ap, Roundtable
dot org as well as we do, but chose not
to go there last night. All right, I want to
look at the impact. First of all. I don't know
if America likes what they saw in the presidential debate
more than this civil, substantive debate. I sure hope they
liked last night better. I thought both outshine both tops
(23:56):
of the tickets and their previous debate. I don't expect
any more debates because this is the taste in the
mouth Donald Trump would want, and he certainly doesn't want
to give a Kamala Harris a second chance with a
three on one with a bias network to give a
bad taste. Again, By the way, I look at the
map today. Here's the latest polling, David. And this is
all prior to this debate, which if it has any impact,
(24:18):
I doubt it's going to do. And they would make
people feel better about where they're already leaning. Wisconsin is
now being led by Trump forty seven to forty six.
And I'll also mentioned in that Senate race, Baldwin's lead
is down to two. In North Carolina, Trump is now
up by two. In Georgia, he's now up by five.
Michigan is down to two. And we know how Trump
(24:40):
under poles, So is he really up by one? Pennsylvania
Trump is now up by one. Arizona, Trump is now
up by three. Nevada, I have three poles that have
Trump up by one. By the way that Montana race,
Trump is up by seventeen. You wonder if that's going
to put Tester over the top. He's already doing well.
(25:01):
I mean if I if I drank well, that will
put Hi over the time. I mean she he over
the top on test. Uh. Thanks for correcting me. All right,
Now we go to the map. Let's say I'm gonna
go ahead and say, of all of them, Nevad I'll
make it blue, Arizona, looks strong. Georgia and North Carolina
looks strong. Pennsylvania is probably leaning Trump right now, as
is Wisconsin. I'm gonna leave Pennsylvania off the table if
(25:23):
I flip Wisconsin. If I just do the poll as
it is today, Donald Trump is two eighty five, the
Democrats have two thirty four. And then if you take
Pennsylvania and it goes red, it's three oh four to
two thirty four. And then if I give Nevada to Trump,
which is probably how it's going to turn out, three
ten to two twenty eight. This map is breaking towards
Donald Trump, and I don't think anything bridge that gap.
(25:45):
Last night for.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Sure, Well, at this stage in the game, we've got
about thirty five days till it's.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Over, and the voting has already begun.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
So momentum is critical now the big question, and I'm
sure if you're not to it by the end of
this broadcast, she'll be it.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
You'll be at it.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
First thing tomorrow is if they feel that momentum is
shifting away, what will the Democrats do next? They will
make one more play to try to claim that momentum back.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
If in fact it is shifting at that level, their
problem might be the October surprise. Is this port strike
and what that would do to the economy on their watch.
And it's Joe Biden that is simply not intervening. He
could have held this off with the Taft Hartley till
after the election. He's choosing not now. Is that union Joe?
Or is that you know what, Matt Joe a spiteful
(26:31):
Joe for what they did to him, Because I think
it could tip the scale of this election. It could
be the ultimate October surprise they can't overcome.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
As possible are or they might yet be the transition
from the vice president to the presidency. We don't know,
We don't know how desperate the team that's really running
this which is Podesta and Soros and Sandler as well.
Because remember the article that came out that blew up
everything on the abortion question that was quoted by Tim
Wallas last night, came out from Pro Publica, which is
(27:01):
an organization very closely aligned to John Podessa and George Soros.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Who are really running the country. By the way, if
you take Nevada, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania put them undecided, you
give the red where the red is and the blue
where the blue is it's already two seventy five, David,
They're already at that desperate point if they've got another
more optimistic than me. But I love I love your
I can't fault your logic. At the moment. I can
(27:27):
make all those blue Wisconsin blue, Pennsylvania blue, Nevada blue.
It's still to eighty one to two fifty seven. If
they got a card if their sleeve, they're getting ready
to play it. I think that's right, all right, David, fascinating.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Listen or the yard Boy and my morning show is
your morning Show with my buddy Michael del Jorno for.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
The big story yesterday in the big visual was one
hundred and eighty one rockets being fired at Israel. And
now the world awaits what Prime Minister bb Net and
Yaho will do next, says Iran will pay. I have
made this point pretty crystal clear. Up until now, it's
been a proxy war, and we all know it's been
about Iran. But they've been using proxies, whether it's Huthi's
(28:10):
Hesblah or Amass, and the retaliations and responses have been
towards the proxies. But this was Aran firing directly from
Iranian soil on israel I suspect the response will be
directed towards them. Jack Crowley is joining us, Jack Boy,
kudos to the Iron Dome and the Arrow three system
(28:32):
and David Sling and assistance of US battle carriers. No harm.
But that was one hundred and eighty one missiles. There's
going to be a response, right without a doubt.
Speaker 6 (28:42):
The question is going to be, like you said, to
what degree the response will be, what's going to be targeted,
Whether there would be things targeted directly in Iran with
a public attack, or you know, maybe something a little
more secretive like what we saw with the pagers exploding,
or potentially some sort of cyber hack to further affect
Iran's nuclear capability. Least, it's really a lot of question
marks right now.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
So what have they done so far? They've addressed the
proxies and so the pagers in the walking talks which
sends a message. Israel's been sending constant messages even with
the flying of its planes, to show them we can
get to you with the precision air strikes, with the
walkie talkies, with the pagers, we can decapitate your leaderships,
(29:23):
and we can even do it on your soil. Then
they have the ground force movement. I mean, what could
we expect targeted air strikes on Iran? What might that be? Well,
their crown jewel is their nuclear development. You could take
those out. They're oil that they've been selling to China,
you could take that out. Sanctions have been lifted, they
could be reinstated. But targeted air strikes is what I
(29:45):
suspect is coming. The question is where or all I'm thinking.
I'm thinking either oil or nuclear refinement centers are indeed
dodo right now.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
Yeah, I mean maybe a little bit from column may,
a little bit from column be. You know, certainly, if
there was any effort made to impede Iran's oil capabilities,
that's going to have some larger global implications. Both Brent
crude and WTI, which is the US benchmark, both closed
about two percent higher yesterday after the missile attack. It's
a lot of weight and seeing right now, there is
(30:19):
a starting to be a little bit of consensus among experts,
at least as far as what Iran's intent was with
that missile attack yesterday, was that it was a relatively
measured I mean, again, we're talking about nearly two hundred
ballistic missiles, which is different than drones that have rocket
powered you know, grenades and traditional missiles. But the idea
that it was maybe more of a measured response that
(30:39):
was specifically there to send a message that look, here's
what we can do. Iran knows that it can't beat
Israel in an ad ad war, but Iran wanted to
at least be able to reflect and show here's what
we can do. And it's a little bit better than
what you thought.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Yeah, I think you know, everything's about managescalation, managescalation. Israel's
determined to eliminate threat to secure its way of life
and the security of its people. That's one hundred and
eighty one missiles not fired by proxies. That was the
terrorist attack in the north that was done by proxies.
There's going to be a direct response and it's going
(31:12):
to be on Iran, and I think if people want
to view that as escalation, view it as that. One
thing I will say about the United States, they've got
a political problem supporting Israel, but they don't have a
military problem. The United States was there and this administration
was there. When push comes to shove to stand by Israel.
That was encouraging to me, but all eyes would be
on the Middle East and when
Speaker 3 (31:31):
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