November 4, 2024 • 33 mins
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Seventy two million people have already early voted, nearly a
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Lac in Nashville. Daniel from Nashville, Welcome morning, Michael John.
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Decker's electoral college map is exactly the kind I would
expect from the mainstream media. He is in fact a
reporter after all, and has to stay in those circles.
Take care well, someone's streak is going to end because
Decker has called the last two elections. His electoral college
map has Kamala Harris winning. Mine has said Donald Trump
winning rather decidedly. So one of us is going to
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be wrong for the first time in about twelve years.
I sure hope it's him, that's for sure. Next Gabriel,
KTLK Gabe and kt okay, that'd be sat there you go.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Voted, I would tell you I'm voting for the outlaw
and Billy.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
And the hell Billy. That echo you heard was the
arch he must be calling from under the arch. Next one,
all right, this is Michelle W.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
H l O Jill for Macron, Ohio, and I think
win or lose, Kamala Harris is going to be the
first female president of the United States. I think if
she loses, they're finally going to depose of Joe Biden
and make her president for the remainder of the term.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I've heard this a I don't think Joe will do it.
I'd be shocked if Joe did it. Secondly, don't forget
the Kamala Harris Joe Biden ticket is both the Biden
I mean, the Obama and the Clinton apparatus. And I'm
not so certain that the Clinton apparatus wants that. If
Hillary couldn't be president, they certainly want somebody a little
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bit grander than her. Last one's go out to the
West Coast.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
Good morning America, Keith West Coast Trucker and my morning show.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Is your Morning Show with Michael del Jarno. We got
a toot to boot like that, all right? Ten minutes
after the hour, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan. This is the path.
I mean, I can tell you what the path is
for Donald Trump. He just needs to win one of
those three, preferably Wisconsin or Michigan, so we don't have
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to wait days for Pennsylvania. He needs to win one
of the two between Arizona and Nevada. I actually believe
he's going to win both, but it's not going to
matter as long as he hangs on to Arizona, North
Carolina and Georgia. He just needs one of those three.
That's his pathway as of today, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania
could go either way. Which way do they break? And
what will cause him to break blue or red? Republican consultant,
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Chris Walker, and one of our your Morning show correspondents
is joining us to kate with me or how is
to go? And I guess the first factor is polls.
The second factor would be how many have early voted?
And what does that mean is left for election day?
I mean, what kind of things are flowing through your
mind a day before?
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Yeah, good morning, Michael.
Speaker 7 (04:16):
You know, I think really it's looking like the early voting,
particularly in Pennsylvania, is in such a kind of a
position that it wasn't, you know, kind of in favor
of Republicans, and it was in twenty twenty that barring
some really strong kind of election day turnout, that Democrats
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just aren't nearly as good at or known for as
they are kind of what the early ballot harvesting that
they do.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
You know, I think that they're you know, Republicans are
in relatively good shape right now. I think something Ultimately,
you know.
Speaker 7 (04:52):
We've got to get out and vote, and a lot
of the Republicans who are waiting to vote should make
sure that they're prepared tomorrow for lines and Shenanigans and
all the rest. But you know, ultimately, it seems like
Pennsylvania is in really good shape for Trump and GP
and that is.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
That equal to win.
Speaker 7 (05:09):
You know, a lot of other things have to happen,
and usually my sense is that these states, you know,
if they're close like this, if they break, they're all
going to break kind of in the same direction. So
I think it's entirely possible that you know, the winner
will get you know, over three hundred electoral votes, because
they're going to tend to kind of break the same way,
depending on kind of bottom the final you.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Just said it, I've been saying it. David and I
talked about it this morning, and the Washington Post just
released an op ed piece this morning on their email list,
and it basically says exactly that the election is uncertain,
but it might not be close. And that's the notion. Now,
my take is to reiterate what you were saying at
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the at the beginning. Take Pennsylvania on November seventh, twenty sixteen.
Donald Trump would go on to take pennsylv He went
into election day trailing by two point one percent. Biden
in the COVID mail in shadow campaign was up two
point six, half a point higher than Hillary, and went
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on to win. Donald Trump is up zero point three
percent this time. That's much different. Wisconsin. Hillary was up
six and a half and Trump went on to win.
He's up She's only up zero point three today. So
almost six point two percent lower today is Harris than
Clinton was, and he beat Clinton. Joe Biden was at
six point seven, so he's got to feel good that
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Wisconsin's within three tenths. Michigan, for example, on election day,
Hillary was up three point six, Biden was up five
point one. Harris is only up zero point nine this time. Arizona.
Trump was up four, Today's up two point six. Biden
was up point nine in the one year that they
won Arizona. No, that is an interesting one. Trump was
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up zero point eight, went on to win. He's up
one right now, And when Biden won, Biden was up
three point three. In other words, if he was if
he was going to lose Nevata, you show him losing
it right now. Same thing is true in North Carolina
and in Georgia. I actually think it's going to be
a very close race, but I think it's not going
to be a close electoral College map. I happen to
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think everything points to Donald Trump. But that is an
interesting thing that nobody has come right out and say
said until right now, oh it's too close to call,
but it's not going to be close to when it's over.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Yeah, I mean I.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Think that's right.
Speaker 7 (07:34):
And you know, everyone is afraid to be wrong on
their you know, prediction meter, you know, particularly for polsters
and others who kind of have a lot of their
career based on credibility of being able to say they
were right on the election.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
But you know, my sense is generally, you know.
Speaker 7 (07:52):
There are intangibles that aren't in polls, and let's not
forget I mean, there's some really garbage poles that came
out this week. I mean there was one that said
that you know, Common was in striking distance in Iowa
when you look at the cross tabs, I mean they
were just ridiculously you know, over Town County Democrats, and
it just you know, you can't just necessarily see a
poll and say like.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Oh this is this is accurate.
Speaker 7 (08:14):
But you know, ultimately, at the end of the day,
there's momentum, there's there's excitement, there's enthusiasm, and those aren't
really miserable in numbers, but they're very clearly in pointing
towards Trump in terms of people excited to vote for
their candidate and Democrats trying everything they can to prop
up a candidate that.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
I'm not excited about.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
I would say, unless we forget try go ahead. No,
I was just gonna say, I would say one rule
of thumb in doing the map, there is no path
for Donald Trump without North Carolina and Georgia. So he's
got to secure that. We'll know that relatively early. He
only needs one of the two out west, and I
think he'll get Arizona pretty easily. He really doesn't need
Nevada quite frankly. Then it comes down to the corridor.
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As Pennsylvania goes, usually so Michigan goes. So this is
this is right to the point that the Washington Post
is making, that we're making that me and David were making.
If Donald Trump, if she takes Pennsylvania, she's probably gonna
take Michigan two, but all he needs is Wisconsin. And
if he takes Wisconsin, he's at two seventy eight. I
happened to believe, and I struggled over this because I
just didn't want it to be so outrageous. Build me up, Buttercup,
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I've got Donald Trump at two twelve or three twelve
or three h six at the lowest. And that's just
because as they flow, they will flow. But I mean,
in fact, even if I give her Pennsylvania and Michigan
and Nevada, she's only at two sixty six, And if
he takes Wisconsin, he's at two seventy two. And then
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Pennsylvania really doesn't matter because even if she gets it
two days three days from now, it's still going to
come up short at two sixty six. I really think
that's the way it's going to play. But I do
have a sense that they've got everybody prime maybe that's
why they're putting up of all these barricades. They're waiting
for some kind of insurrection, and I wonder if it'll
come from the left to the right or what they're
they're primeing more for an insurrection in our nation's capital
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than they are an election day. But that's really how
it's going to break out, I think.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
I mean, you know, the biggest.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
Number that it will kind of let you know why
I feel fairly strongly for Trump, you know, is in
his favor. The Pennsylvania ballots returned. You know, as of yesterday,
Democrats are below their twenty twenty numbers by about seven
hundred and thirty thousand votes.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
And so when you're looking at the majority.
Speaker 7 (10:27):
Of their votes are this early vote and.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
This ballot harvesting that they do.
Speaker 7 (10:32):
For them to be that far behind their numbers in
twenty twenty, trouble, you would have to say seven hundred
thousand people getting on an election day, which is I
just don't think is a realistic number of a surge
based on what they've.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Done in the past, so at a time with the
unpopular of an administration, at a time where about seven
and ten think we're heading in the wrong direction at
a time where even unions have been somewhat split between
their members and their leaders. I mean every other indicator
where Trump stands today versus where he stood in history
in twenty sixteen and twenty twenty. I mean, I wouldn't
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know where now. I granted I may be wrong, and
it may be three hundred plus for Kamala, because whoever's
right's going to be really right. Whoever's wrong is going
to be really wrong because it's going to be a
tight race, but not the electoral college map is going
to be either way above three hundred. I just can't
find a way to cut it her way. I would
be very, very shocked. I would just say that. I mean,
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that's I've seen Samon swim upstream. But this has just
not been a very good candidate.
Speaker 7 (11:34):
I mean I have woken up on I mean two
years ago, woke up to the idea that you know,
Republicans were going to have a really good day and
come to find out that the returns really weren't going
our way in multiple states and multiple elections.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
So yeah, but seventy two million people didn't early vote
all basis on going to vote.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
I mean, if you'll have to go vote. And that's
the simple, simple truth of it. So if you want,
if you want more of the same, you know you
don't vote.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
But if you, I hope you don't.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
And I hope you want people to kind of change
up what's going on in Washington right now. I mean,
then get out on both. That's the only key thing
to do here.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
I had somebody email me that they were very nervous,
and this is going to sound very pious, and I
didn't really mean it that way, but somebody needs to
speak these truths out loud. I said, I'm not nervous.
There is a throne and it's not in the White House,
and it's not subject to mob rule, and the Christ
is sitting on that throne next to his father. We're
going to be eternally victorious. In fact, we are already
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and hopefully walking in that victory here on earth, as
we are in this world, but not of this world.
I'm also very confident that Donald Trump's going to win
and he won't even need Pennsylvania to do it. I mean,
that's just kind of either way. I'm fine. I wanted
to run this by you because I think some people
think I'm crazy if I'm John Podessa and I'm George Soros.
I don't want Kamala Harris to win. I want control
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of the Congress. And I don't mind the Republicans having
a two person advantage in the Senate because that's really
newtered quite frankly with Collins and Murkowski. I want the House,
and I want to wreak havoc on Donald Trump, make
them a lame duck from day one, and make them
prosecuted and pestered and harassed from day one. And I
think they'll play this circus all the way to a
civil war if they have to. What they don't want
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is to be stuck with Kamala Harris for four years
or eight years, when they've got Wes Moore and Shapiro
and others waiting in the wings. Am I crazy?
Speaker 7 (13:21):
No?
Speaker 4 (13:22):
I mean I think that's the key to it. And
what's like and look at what's happening.
Speaker 7 (13:27):
I mean, Kamin is key voter person that's campaign with
her is Liz Chady, not Gavin Newsom, not brushing with
murv not you know, Shapiro in Pennsylvania and Westmore They're
all waiting this one out.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
I mean Joe Biden's garbage comment Joe Biden's I want
to slap Republicans on the ass comment. It's like every
time it turned the Saturday Night Live. I mean, that
would show either how desperate they are, how much they
want to put a sour taste in everybody's mouth right
before election day. I mean it's as if they're trying
to sabotage this selection. I mean, I wouldn't go that far.
Speaker 7 (14:00):
I mean, obviously they want to win, and they're putting
up they're pulling out boats to try to win.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I mean, let's not you know, they want the House.
Speaker 7 (14:06):
They would rather be in power than out of power.
But there are a lot of people in the Democrat Party,
you know, like again Gavin Newsom and others who would
very much like to run against Trump on day one
and will plan to do so, and so would not
be a disappointed in Akama loss at all. So, but
you know, the machine behind them is still working over
time to try to win, because because the machine knows
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if she wills millions of dollars behind.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
It, the machine knows if she wins their dead meat
for eight to sixteen years in terms of controlling the
White House, after that, I'm telling you, I'm going to
stand on the record. I will never know, because it's
not like George Soros or John Podesta would ever admit it.
I guarantee you. They are laser focused on control of
the House and minimizing the loss in the Senate, keeping
it neutered, if you will, with Collins and Marskowski. That's
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what they want and Wes Moore in Shapiro four years
from now, and if they get it, they may hang
out of the White House for another eight to sixteen years.
Oh I know, John Podesta, he's will only give up
four years, especially when is Kamala Harris. You don't want
to defend her for four years and miss out on
Wes Moore. I don't know. Well, we'll see it. Certainly
hasn't been a very effective campaign, that's for sure. Short
Field and all right, I mean I can't I can't
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think of you know, playing any worse. But I guess,
you know, it's kind of like one of those football
games you're watching. They couldn't have played worse and there's
still a one score game.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
So I mean, that's awesome by watching Tennessee on Saturday.
But yeah, you know, Ultimately, I think I think there.
Speaker 7 (15:30):
Is certainly a.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
It's been a bad campaign.
Speaker 7 (15:34):
It's a candidate that can't do the simplest interviews. Tell
Joe Rogan that she can't go to Austin, She's only
give him forty minutes. But yet you know, rushless to
Saturdaynight Live on a Saturday. You know, just there's there's
so many things about her that are inauthentic and not
real and unqualified, and you know that's going to bear
not a lot of fruit for her.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
And you know that's the question. Like the excitement level
and the push.
Speaker 7 (15:57):
Level towards towards a win all seem to point towards
sald Trump. And you know, everyone who kind of follows
this and watches this day in and day out just
are kind of living and dying by polling and other
things just kind of have to take a step back
and say, look, you know, there are a lot of
people in this country that are hurting that are you know,
looking at the crime rates, the immigration, you know the
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things that this that the Harris you know, Biden administration
have done on purpose, and there has to be kind
of a political consequence to that. And I think you're
going to see a lot of people come up and
say no more to that.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Tomorrow I'll take the final say, if Kamala Harris can
get elected president after this year and this performance and
this strategy, we got bigger problems than Kamala Harris being
president for four years because the American electric right is
really in trouble.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
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Speaker 3 (17:19):
Dential election election polling numbers, you know pretty much are
showing Donald Trump in much better standing than he was
even in twenty sixteen when he won in the Swing States.
We have one odd poll from the New York Times.
It doesn't seem to make sense. Another odd poll from
the Des Moines Register, which is about ten points off
other polls and very heavily weighted with Democrats. And then
probably the biggest uncertainty that we don't know is how
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many of early voted. I mean, are we headed to
some kind of real election day record or is it
a zero sum game and people just shifted and voted early.
We said two things that I think if you missed
any of the show would summarize it. One, this is
either going to be known as It's definitely gonna be
known as the early voting election. It may be known
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as the Joe Rogan podcast election. Especially if Donald Trump
wins and we broke down all the numbers, you could
add up all of their campaign appearances and it wouldn't
add up to who they reached with those two interviews.
And Kamal Airas chose not to fly there, but she
had tied to fly to Saturday Night Live, so some
of the stuff has to wait till after the election.
But it's definitely gonna be known as the early voting election,
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and what does that lead for election daytime will tell.
The other thing is it is obviously very close in
the polls, but this is not going to be close
in the electoral college one way or another. The New
York Times is right, she's going to win with over
three hundred electoral votes. Close, but it's not going to
finish close. Too close to call. Not going to finish close,
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one way or another. Somebody's going to win with over
three hundred. I happen to think it's Donald Trump. Aaron
Rayal is joining us. Young men, they could be the
difference for Donald Trump. Break that down for us. Where'd
Aaron go? I watched Aaron? I don't know. Ericly, don't
hear you? Are you, Michael? Can you hear me?
Speaker 7 (19:13):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (19:13):
You had? Utahan, I was. I actually had a couple
of applications open, and I'm sorry, you know what, I'm
just glad it wasn't me for a change, No, it
was me.
Speaker 8 (19:24):
Sorry, I'm doing this. I'm speaking into like the good
mic in my computer and as a result, there's a
lot going on on the computer. But know what, you're
getting all the good the good sounds.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
So there we go. Yeah, so you've got young men
that could boost Donald Trump over the victory line. Indeed.
Speaker 8 (19:40):
Yeah, So now here's the thing. It's a huge if
in the sense that if if the young men come
out to vote, and they do not historically, but Trump
could do five to seven points better among the young
men than he did in twenty twenty. He won them
in twenty twenty again if they show up. But what's
interesting is Harris leads Trump by twenty points a mon
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registered voters under thirty the ones who do vote, and
then women, the female peers of these younger generations.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
They go out and vote much more than.
Speaker 8 (20:08):
The male peers. But again it's like about half that
vote if you're looking at it under under thirty, particularly
eighteen to twenty four. Now, Trump has been at sneaker conventions,
in UFC Championships and the Joe Rogan podcast. He has
a Jake Paul endorsement. And if I mean you mentioned
not classy. I don't know if did anyone see the
mic thing over the weekend that he did. This might
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appeal to some very young boys, doesn't necessarily appeal to
independent voters or women.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Well, Satay and Lighte featured that, of course in the
weekend update. Was he meaning to do that? By the way,
it was disgusting?
Speaker 8 (20:43):
Yeah, and not okay, And like I was just like, really,
is this what you want to put out in your
final like to everyone, like, really, this is a reminder
of what bothers people about Trump, and this isn't you know.
You might love JD. Vance and you might love RFK,
you might love everyone around him, but then something like that,
Really that.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
That was not a good moment. Now, the joke thing
with the media, I actually felt like, I mean, again,
you got to discern this stuff. But he's talking about
where there's glass and where there is in glass and
I think he was going somewhere different. And then he
stumbled on that, you know, kind of ad libbed punchline
that you know, the thing in front of this glass
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is the mainstream media. You'd have to shoot a shooter
or have to shoot through them. I have the clip.
I don't want to waste the time to play it. Yeah,
I know, Donald Trump. Donald Trump has had some really
really really good smart moves and really really good moments,
and then he has his bad moments too. Kind of
like a comedian, you know, you can go too far.
You know, as long as you're you're perceived is overall funny.
But that doesn't mean you don't have jokes that don't land.
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But that one in particular, I don't know what he
was thinking. And you're and I would imagine I'm a
man and I thought it was Yeah.
Speaker 8 (21:52):
My husband said the same thing. It's like, what, like
it's not And he's like, also, it's not like really funny.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
It just looks like stupid.
Speaker 8 (21:59):
Where like your buddy is doing that, you'd be like,
what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Stop? When my son does things like that, he gets
a smack in the back of the way exactly like.
Speaker 8 (22:07):
If you're a parent, you're like, knock it off, And
if you're a friend, you're like, if you look you
look stupid.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
That's one for the right. But but the bottom line is,
you know, because they talk about gender gap all the time,
and yeah, there's a gender gap if they show up
and we don't know how much the abortion issue is
driving women to vote over the grocery store costs and
so on and so forth. I would presume among younger
women abortion would probably have a little bit more influence,
but there's a gender gap for men too for Donald Trump,
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So you know, it all comes down to turn out
and then the other big questions. We don't know who's
already voted versus exactly.
Speaker 8 (22:41):
And then also the abortion thing. I want to bring
this up. It's not like only women are, you know,
pro choice. There's men that feel that way too. And
it really what it comes down to more than gender
is age. If you look at the age or and
then of course I'm you know, that was the part.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
I was making younger women more likely. You get above
fifty three years old and there's more pro there's more
pro life women even especially about sixty five exactly.
Speaker 8 (23:06):
Yeah, like it's an age thing, not a gender thing,
almost where it's like young men are all four pro
choice there like.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Yeah, no. But what I think is interesting that you
bring up is of all the things we have discussed
at nauseum. Uh, you know, wouldn't it be funny if
it's something like that never mind Joe Rogan or though
it could be Joe Rogan, never mind early voting, never
mind just you know, it had to do with men,
young men eighteen to twenty five showing up on election day.
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That was the decider.
Speaker 8 (23:32):
I mean, and I mean it might be this is
do I think, I don't know, it's it's.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
All of the above, Aaron, So it's not but you know,
we can pick any one of these in post to
ornament and make a big deal a lot of them,
I agree with you.
Speaker 8 (23:43):
And then also the early voting, This is going to
be the election known for like early movieing.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
I agree.
Speaker 8 (23:48):
I'm like, there's just so many people early voting, and
I think that that is going to have a profound
impact because it just it just gives you more of
an opportunity to vote. Think it's going to bring out
more people how they choose to and you know, pull
the lever is going to be indicative of so many things.
But again, if you're pinning your your political future on
young men, here's one you'll.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Find interesting and feel free to steal it when you're
in your meetings with Chris later, because I think this
would be a good one for you or Rory to
do tomorrow. The Joe Rogan issue, the podcast issue. First
of all, you know, we're making a big deal out
of Saturay Night Live, as if Saray Night Live or
CNN or MSNBC have that kind of an influence. But
let me put into perspective for you ready, so we
know that the if, and I don't think you know,
(24:29):
in the case of Kamala Harris, she doesn't average thirty
thousand live attendees. I think Donald Trump might. But either way,
let's say the average rally gets thirty thousand live attendees.
If you compare that to the views by Trump and
jd Vance on Joe Rogan, it would be the equivalent
of four hundred and ninety two events for jd Vance.
It would be the equivalent of one thousand, four hundred
(24:51):
and seventy nine rallies for Donald Trump. You know, if
you start putting into perspective the thirteen and a half
million that watched Joe Rogan seven thousand comments or the
forty four and a half million that watched Donald Trump
and the over half a million comments, I mean, you
could you could see a case where her decision, never
mind getting on a plane going to Saturday Night Live,
(25:13):
in some type of FCC violation. Her inability to show
up on Joe Rogan both of their three hour appearances
on Joe Rope for all we know, that may be
the difference at a time where television and mainstream media
is just not where it's at and social media podcast is.
I mean, we're going to be able to cut this
a million ways afterwards, but.
Speaker 8 (25:33):
I couldn't agree with you more about the Joe Rogan thing,
and if like, I also fundamentally believe, like if you,
I'm a huge Joe Rogan fan. I've listened for over
a decade, and if you listened, really, the only place
they truly connected, I felt was that UFC.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
They had like a fundamental.
Speaker 8 (25:48):
Bond there, and then everything else. I do not think
Rogan they gave him any layups.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
I think he liked JD.
Speaker 8 (25:53):
Vansmore than Trump. Frankly, I have listened to both of them,
and well, the.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
JD Vance one was barely It was all just you know,
two guys talk to him very yeah, if anything was issues,
but not politics and not this election exactly.
Speaker 8 (26:06):
And then my whole point that I'm just trying to
make here is like, whoever told Kamala Harris you shouldn't
show it doesn't matter is dead wrong.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
They blew it.
Speaker 8 (26:15):
You have to show up for that for no other
reason than a Joe Rogan isn't a jerk.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
He's He's just not. He wouldn't be.
Speaker 8 (26:22):
He wouldn't make anyone want to look like a jerk.
And I believe he fundamentally want to talk to her.
And it also leaves people puzzled like, well, wait, why
can't you talk to like are you really?
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Can you really talking to many and by the way,
got to run. But there's too many of those that
are puzzling to the point where I think John Podesta
doesn't want to be stuck with Kamala Harris and defending
her for four to eight years. He wants control of
the House and if he can get that in a
close Senate, he'd gladly give up the White House for
four years to come back with Wes Moore, Shapiro or
others and control it from eight to sixteen. I don't
(26:52):
think they want to win the White House, to be
honest with you, I'd be shocked if they do. But
they do want the House, and they want it bad,
and that's where the circus will really begin. Great reporting.
Appreciate it, Aaron.
Speaker 9 (27:04):
Hey, everybody's John Ford Coley of England, Dan and John
Ford Coley and my morning show is your Morning Show
with Michael del Jorno.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
The final day before election day, Monday, November fourth, Quincy
Jones has passed away at the age of ninety one.
As I said, just a shameless plug. If you've never
seen the what was it called again. The documentary and
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Look for it on Netflix is really spectacular. Great from
(27:34):
a line Richie Michael Jackson perspective, But boy, if you
want to see Quincy Jones at his best with the
leading voices in all of music, and he's heard in
the Cats and Making Magic, Quincy Jones gone at the
age of ninety one. Poles are showing a tight race.
What was it? Greatest Night and Pop? Yeah, Greatest Night
and Pop. You'll love it. Oh the Linel Richie stories
about Michael Jackson's home, that that alone is a must see.
(27:56):
Falls showing a tight race, but not many people think
this is going to end up tight. In other words,
if Kamala wins or Donald wins and it's too close
to call, one of them is going to win by
over three hundred Electoral College votes and millions of seventy
two million ballots already cast, eighty percent of the Georgia
ballots already cast, forty eight percent of all ballots cast.
And that's assuming that it's not a zero sum game
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and we're going to have a load turnout on election day.
And Roy O'Neil's here with the latest polls that there
may be some shifts in key states. Which ones are
you looking at, Rory?
Speaker 6 (28:26):
Well, this Iowa poll that came out this weekend suddenly
shows Iowa in play. I mean, I don't think anyone
saw that coming. But the woman behind the poll, and
Seltzer has got a heck of a track record there
in Iowa. She predicted Donald Trump would win the last
two cycles there in Iowa, which he did, and she
was off by about two points I think. And right
(28:46):
now she's got Harris up forty seven to forty four.
Now that's like a seven point swing since she lasted
a poll in September. But new abortion laws have taken
effect in Iowa in the meantime, and she thinks that's
what may be driving more women to come out to vote.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Well, what makes this difficult is Donald Trump won Iowa
by nine and twenty sixteen over Hillary came back in
twenty twenty during the mail in COVID election and still
won Iowa by eight. The last poll that we had seen,
Donald Trump was up by ten, and then this one
comes out and he's trailing by three it's even a
seven point swing for her. It seems to be a
(29:25):
bit of a reach, but like you said, her track
record and the abortion laws could be driving that. Do
you buy into the And The New York Times came
out with an outbed piece this morning that was saying
very much the same thing. Too close to call, and
I can run down now Donald Trump's in a better
position in all the swing states than he was in
twenty twenty or twenty sixteen. But having said that, it
(29:46):
is too close to call. But no matter how it goes,
it's probably going to go big. Do you buy into that?
I can see that happening.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
If there is this trend of say Trump women Pennsylvania
and then he can capture more of what was the
blue Wall, then yeah, it's gonna go fall like dominoes.
But same in the other direction, is exactly And that
was what some of the Democrats are trying to read
a lot more into this Iowa poll, saying, you know,
if this is what the women are thinking in Iowa,
(30:14):
I bet it's pretty much the same nearby Wisconsin and
in nearby Michigan. And that's some of the reasons they're
trying to translate these Iowa numbers to other parts of
the country.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Yeah. When I was doing my electoral college map, my
problem is, if let's say Kamala takes Pennsylvania, she's gonna
take Michigan too. They tend to fall together, not so
much Wisconsin. I think Donald Trump is assuming that he's
hanging on to North Carolina and Georgia, and assuming gets
at least Arizona on the west coast. He just needs
Wisconsin or Pennsylvania or Michigan. I tend to think they
(30:48):
may all go in one direction. So you know, John
Decker's always on it. It sounds like a cop out,
but I always got what he meant. I could see
Donald Trump winning this with over three hundred electoral votes.
I could see Kamala Harris with over three hundred elect troubles.
It could go either way. And it sounds like it's noncommittal,
but it really is the reality. The other big question
is we just don't know who has voted already. Are
(31:10):
we headed for some kind of a record number still
to come on election day or has it been a
zero sum game and they just voted early and it
shifted right.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
I think I just looked, We've got fifty six percent
already voted here in Florida. I'm also the curious as
to why Trump is in North Carolina so much in
these closing days. I thought that was much more for
him in his back pocket. I would have expected to
see him not leave Pennsylvania. But he's doing what three
stops in two days and now well because he can't.
There is no path outs if you look. If he
(31:39):
doesn't win both Georgia and North Carolina, there is no
path for him.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
He's got to live there. I think he should feel
comfortable with Arizona, and I think he knows he's got
to take Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, or Michigan one of those three.
I know, I think he's played his game right. What
do you make of the you know, because I just
like to be fair like you do, We're going to say,
all right, that's Saturday Live, Shenanigan. There's two ways to
(32:03):
look at that. Is it class list a little bit?
It could have showed sign of desperation maybe, But by
the same token, you know, we could reverse that and say, well,
Nicki Haley coming out and being very strong speaking to
people in a Wall Street journal out ed posts right,
get out there and vote for Donald Trump. You're trying
(32:25):
to mend that fence. Could that be a sign of
desperation that they know those those never Trumper votes and
that push or are concerned that Nicky's people might not
vote like they didn't in the primary forum. I think
they addressed that.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
So I don't know everybody's kind of doing anything smart
And my Florida mentioned again, where has Ron Desanta's been
to help out Donald Trump?
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Well, I don't think Flora does anybody really think Flora's does? No,
But but we haven't seen Desanta's on the trail.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
He hasn't campaigned with him, He hasn't gone out to yeah,
do anything to support the former president.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
He defended them on a couple of issues. Yeah, no,
it's been. It's been much more. To your point, it's
been much more Marco Rubio much more, RFK much more,
Tulsa Gabbard, much more of it back Ramaswami. Maybe that's
for what's what happens in four years from now on
Casey loses? Right, who knows? Time will tell? All Right, Well,
guess what best of all election days tomorrow? And this
(33:20):
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(01:28):
Decker's electoral college map is exactly the kind I would
expect from the mainstream media. He is in fact a
reporter after all, and has to stay in those circles.
Take care well, someone's streak is going to end because
Decker has called the last two elections. His electoral college
map has Kamala Harris winning. Mine has said Donald Trump
winning rather decidedly. So one of us is going to
(01:51):
be wrong for the first time in about twelve years.
I sure hope it's him, that's for sure. Next Gabriel,
KTLK Gabe and kt okay, that'd be sat there you go.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Voted, I would tell you I'm voting for the outlaw
and Billy.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
And the hell Billy. That echo you heard was the
arch he must be calling from under the arch. Next one,
all right, this is Michelle W.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
H l O Jill for Macron, Ohio, and I think
win or lose, Kamala Harris is going to be the
first female president of the United States. I think if
she loses, they're finally going to depose of Joe Biden
and make her president for the remainder of the term.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I've heard this a I don't think Joe will do it.
I'd be shocked if Joe did it. Secondly, don't forget
the Kamala Harris Joe Biden ticket is both the Biden
I mean, the Obama and the Clinton apparatus. And I'm
not so certain that the Clinton apparatus wants that. If
Hillary couldn't be president, they certainly want somebody a little
(03:02):
bit grander than her. Last one's go out to the
West Coast.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
Good morning America, Keith West Coast Trucker and my morning show.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Is your Morning Show with Michael del Jarno. We got
a toot to boot like that, all right? Ten minutes
after the hour, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan. This is the path.
I mean, I can tell you what the path is
for Donald Trump. He just needs to win one of
those three, preferably Wisconsin or Michigan, so we don't have
(03:33):
to wait days for Pennsylvania. He needs to win one
of the two between Arizona and Nevada. I actually believe
he's going to win both, but it's not going to
matter as long as he hangs on to Arizona, North
Carolina and Georgia. He just needs one of those three.
That's his pathway as of today, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania
could go either way. Which way do they break? And
what will cause him to break blue or red? Republican consultant,
(03:56):
Chris Walker, and one of our your Morning show correspondents
is joining us to kate with me or how is
to go? And I guess the first factor is polls.
The second factor would be how many have early voted?
And what does that mean is left for election day?
I mean, what kind of things are flowing through your
mind a day before?
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Yeah, good morning, Michael.
Speaker 7 (04:16):
You know, I think really it's looking like the early voting,
particularly in Pennsylvania, is in such a kind of a
position that it wasn't, you know, kind of in favor
of Republicans, and it was in twenty twenty that barring
some really strong kind of election day turnout, that Democrats
(04:38):
just aren't nearly as good at or known for as
they are kind of what the early ballot harvesting that
they do.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
You know, I think that they're you know, Republicans are
in relatively good shape right now. I think something Ultimately,
you know.
Speaker 7 (04:52):
We've got to get out and vote, and a lot
of the Republicans who are waiting to vote should make
sure that they're prepared tomorrow for lines and Shenanigans and
all the rest. But you know, ultimately, it seems like
Pennsylvania is in really good shape for Trump and GP
and that is.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
That equal to win.
Speaker 7 (05:09):
You know, a lot of other things have to happen,
and usually my sense is that these states, you know,
if they're close like this, if they break, they're all
going to break kind of in the same direction. So
I think it's entirely possible that you know, the winner
will get you know, over three hundred electoral votes, because
they're going to tend to kind of break the same way,
depending on kind of bottom the final you.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Just said it, I've been saying it. David and I
talked about it this morning, and the Washington Post just
released an op ed piece this morning on their email list,
and it basically says exactly that the election is uncertain,
but it might not be close. And that's the notion. Now,
my take is to reiterate what you were saying at
(05:53):
the at the beginning. Take Pennsylvania on November seventh, twenty sixteen.
Donald Trump would go on to take pennsylv He went
into election day trailing by two point one percent. Biden
in the COVID mail in shadow campaign was up two
point six, half a point higher than Hillary, and went
(06:15):
on to win. Donald Trump is up zero point three
percent this time. That's much different. Wisconsin. Hillary was up
six and a half and Trump went on to win.
He's up She's only up zero point three today. So
almost six point two percent lower today is Harris than
Clinton was, and he beat Clinton. Joe Biden was at
six point seven, so he's got to feel good that
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Wisconsin's within three tenths. Michigan, for example, on election day,
Hillary was up three point six, Biden was up five
point one. Harris is only up zero point nine this time. Arizona.
Trump was up four, Today's up two point six. Biden
was up point nine in the one year that they
won Arizona. No, that is an interesting one. Trump was
(06:57):
up zero point eight, went on to win. He's up
one right now, And when Biden won, Biden was up
three point three. In other words, if he was if
he was going to lose Nevata, you show him losing
it right now. Same thing is true in North Carolina
and in Georgia. I actually think it's going to be
a very close race, but I think it's not going
to be a close electoral College map. I happen to
(07:19):
think everything points to Donald Trump. But that is an
interesting thing that nobody has come right out and say
said until right now, oh it's too close to call,
but it's not going to be close to when it's over.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Yeah, I mean I.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Think that's right.
Speaker 7 (07:34):
And you know, everyone is afraid to be wrong on
their you know, prediction meter, you know, particularly for polsters
and others who kind of have a lot of their
career based on credibility of being able to say they
were right on the election.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
But you know, my sense is generally, you know.
Speaker 7 (07:52):
There are intangibles that aren't in polls, and let's not
forget I mean, there's some really garbage poles that came
out this week. I mean there was one that said
that you know, Common was in striking distance in Iowa
when you look at the cross tabs, I mean they
were just ridiculously you know, over Town County Democrats, and
it just you know, you can't just necessarily see a
poll and say like.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Oh this is this is accurate.
Speaker 7 (08:14):
But you know, ultimately, at the end of the day,
there's momentum, there's there's excitement, there's enthusiasm, and those aren't
really miserable in numbers, but they're very clearly in pointing
towards Trump in terms of people excited to vote for
their candidate and Democrats trying everything they can to prop
up a candidate that.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
I'm not excited about.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
I would say, unless we forget try go ahead. No,
I was just gonna say, I would say one rule
of thumb in doing the map, there is no path
for Donald Trump without North Carolina and Georgia. So he's
got to secure that. We'll know that relatively early. He
only needs one of the two out west, and I
think he'll get Arizona pretty easily. He really doesn't need
Nevada quite frankly. Then it comes down to the corridor.
(08:54):
As Pennsylvania goes, usually so Michigan goes. So this is
this is right to the point that the Washington Post
is making, that we're making that me and David were making.
If Donald Trump, if she takes Pennsylvania, she's probably gonna
take Michigan two, but all he needs is Wisconsin. And
if he takes Wisconsin, he's at two seventy eight. I
happened to believe, and I struggled over this because I
just didn't want it to be so outrageous. Build me up, Buttercup,
(09:18):
I've got Donald Trump at two twelve or three twelve
or three h six at the lowest. And that's just
because as they flow, they will flow. But I mean,
in fact, even if I give her Pennsylvania and Michigan
and Nevada, she's only at two sixty six, And if
he takes Wisconsin, he's at two seventy two. And then
(09:39):
Pennsylvania really doesn't matter because even if she gets it
two days three days from now, it's still going to
come up short at two sixty six. I really think
that's the way it's going to play. But I do
have a sense that they've got everybody prime maybe that's
why they're putting up of all these barricades. They're waiting
for some kind of insurrection, and I wonder if it'll
come from the left to the right or what they're
they're primeing more for an insurrection in our nation's capital
(09:59):
than they are an election day. But that's really how
it's going to break out, I think.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
I mean, you know, the biggest.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
Number that it will kind of let you know why
I feel fairly strongly for Trump, you know, is in
his favor. The Pennsylvania ballots returned. You know, as of yesterday,
Democrats are below their twenty twenty numbers by about seven
hundred and thirty thousand votes.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
And so when you're looking at the majority.
Speaker 7 (10:27):
Of their votes are this early vote and.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
This ballot harvesting that they do.
Speaker 7 (10:32):
For them to be that far behind their numbers in
twenty twenty, trouble, you would have to say seven hundred
thousand people getting on an election day, which is I
just don't think is a realistic number of a surge
based on what they've.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Done in the past, so at a time with the
unpopular of an administration, at a time where about seven
and ten think we're heading in the wrong direction at
a time where even unions have been somewhat split between
their members and their leaders. I mean every other indicator
where Trump stands today versus where he stood in history
in twenty sixteen and twenty twenty. I mean, I wouldn't
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know where now. I granted I may be wrong, and
it may be three hundred plus for Kamala, because whoever's
right's going to be really right. Whoever's wrong is going
to be really wrong because it's going to be a
tight race, but not the electoral college map is going
to be either way above three hundred. I just can't
find a way to cut it her way. I would
be very, very shocked. I would just say that. I mean,
(11:28):
that's I've seen Samon swim upstream. But this has just
not been a very good candidate.
Speaker 7 (11:34):
I mean I have woken up on I mean two
years ago, woke up to the idea that you know,
Republicans were going to have a really good day and
come to find out that the returns really weren't going
our way in multiple states and multiple elections.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
So yeah, but seventy two million people didn't early vote
all basis on going to vote.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
I mean, if you'll have to go vote. And that's
the simple, simple truth of it. So if you want,
if you want more of the same, you know you
don't vote.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
But if you, I hope you don't.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
And I hope you want people to kind of change
up what's going on in Washington right now. I mean,
then get out on both. That's the only key thing
to do here.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
I had somebody email me that they were very nervous,
and this is going to sound very pious, and I
didn't really mean it that way, but somebody needs to
speak these truths out loud. I said, I'm not nervous.
There is a throne and it's not in the White House,
and it's not subject to mob rule, and the Christ
is sitting on that throne next to his father. We're
going to be eternally victorious. In fact, we are already
(12:28):
and hopefully walking in that victory here on earth, as
we are in this world, but not of this world.
I'm also very confident that Donald Trump's going to win
and he won't even need Pennsylvania to do it. I mean,
that's just kind of either way. I'm fine. I wanted
to run this by you because I think some people
think I'm crazy if I'm John Podessa and I'm George Soros.
I don't want Kamala Harris to win. I want control
(12:49):
of the Congress. And I don't mind the Republicans having
a two person advantage in the Senate because that's really
newtered quite frankly with Collins and Murkowski. I want the House,
and I want to wreak havoc on Donald Trump, make
them a lame duck from day one, and make them
prosecuted and pestered and harassed from day one. And I
think they'll play this circus all the way to a
civil war if they have to. What they don't want
(13:12):
is to be stuck with Kamala Harris for four years
or eight years, when they've got Wes Moore and Shapiro
and others waiting in the wings. Am I crazy?
Speaker 7 (13:21):
No?
Speaker 4 (13:22):
I mean I think that's the key to it. And
what's like and look at what's happening.
Speaker 7 (13:27):
I mean, Kamin is key voter person that's campaign with
her is Liz Chady, not Gavin Newsom, not brushing with
murv not you know, Shapiro in Pennsylvania and Westmore They're
all waiting this one out.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
I mean Joe Biden's garbage comment Joe Biden's I want
to slap Republicans on the ass comment. It's like every
time it turned the Saturday Night Live. I mean, that
would show either how desperate they are, how much they
want to put a sour taste in everybody's mouth right
before election day. I mean it's as if they're trying
to sabotage this selection. I mean, I wouldn't go that far.
Speaker 7 (14:00):
I mean, obviously they want to win, and they're putting
up they're pulling out boats to try to win.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I mean, let's not you know, they want the House.
Speaker 7 (14:06):
They would rather be in power than out of power.
But there are a lot of people in the Democrat Party,
you know, like again Gavin Newsom and others who would
very much like to run against Trump on day one
and will plan to do so, and so would not
be a disappointed in Akama loss at all. So, but
you know, the machine behind them is still working over
time to try to win, because because the machine knows
(14:28):
if she wills millions of dollars behind.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
It, the machine knows if she wins their dead meat
for eight to sixteen years in terms of controlling the
White House, after that, I'm telling you, I'm going to
stand on the record. I will never know, because it's
not like George Soros or John Podesta would ever admit it.
I guarantee you. They are laser focused on control of
the House and minimizing the loss in the Senate, keeping
it neutered, if you will, with Collins and Marskowski. That's
(14:52):
what they want and Wes Moore in Shapiro four years
from now, and if they get it, they may hang
out of the White House for another eight to sixteen years.
Oh I know, John Podesta, he's will only give up
four years, especially when is Kamala Harris. You don't want
to defend her for four years and miss out on
Wes Moore. I don't know. Well, we'll see it. Certainly
hasn't been a very effective campaign, that's for sure. Short
Field and all right, I mean I can't I can't
(15:15):
think of you know, playing any worse. But I guess,
you know, it's kind of like one of those football
games you're watching. They couldn't have played worse and there's
still a one score game.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
So I mean, that's awesome by watching Tennessee on Saturday.
But yeah, you know, Ultimately, I think I think there.
Speaker 7 (15:30):
Is certainly a.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
It's been a bad campaign.
Speaker 7 (15:34):
It's a candidate that can't do the simplest interviews. Tell
Joe Rogan that she can't go to Austin, She's only
give him forty minutes. But yet you know, rushless to
Saturdaynight Live on a Saturday. You know, just there's there's
so many things about her that are inauthentic and not
real and unqualified, and you know that's going to bear
not a lot of fruit for her.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
And you know that's the question. Like the excitement level
and the push.
Speaker 7 (15:57):
Level towards towards a win all seem to point towards
sald Trump. And you know, everyone who kind of follows
this and watches this day in and day out just
are kind of living and dying by polling and other
things just kind of have to take a step back
and say, look, you know, there are a lot of
people in this country that are hurting that are you know,
looking at the crime rates, the immigration, you know the
(16:18):
things that this that the Harris you know, Biden administration
have done on purpose, and there has to be kind
of a political consequence to that. And I think you're
going to see a lot of people come up and
say no more to that.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Tomorrow I'll take the final say, if Kamala Harris can
get elected president after this year and this performance and
this strategy, we got bigger problems than Kamala Harris being
president for four years because the American electric right is
really in trouble.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
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de Truno.
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Speaker 3 (17:19):
Dential election election polling numbers, you know pretty much are
showing Donald Trump in much better standing than he was
even in twenty sixteen when he won in the Swing States.
We have one odd poll from the New York Times.
It doesn't seem to make sense. Another odd poll from
the Des Moines Register, which is about ten points off
other polls and very heavily weighted with Democrats. And then
probably the biggest uncertainty that we don't know is how
(17:42):
many of early voted. I mean, are we headed to
some kind of real election day record or is it
a zero sum game and people just shifted and voted early.
We said two things that I think if you missed
any of the show would summarize it. One, this is
either going to be known as It's definitely gonna be
known as the early voting election. It may be known
(18:05):
as the Joe Rogan podcast election. Especially if Donald Trump
wins and we broke down all the numbers, you could
add up all of their campaign appearances and it wouldn't
add up to who they reached with those two interviews.
And Kamal Airas chose not to fly there, but she
had tied to fly to Saturday Night Live, so some
of the stuff has to wait till after the election.
But it's definitely gonna be known as the early voting election,
(18:27):
and what does that lead for election daytime will tell.
The other thing is it is obviously very close in
the polls, but this is not going to be close
in the electoral college one way or another. The New
York Times is right, she's going to win with over
three hundred electoral votes. Close, but it's not going to
finish close. Too close to call. Not going to finish close,
(18:48):
one way or another. Somebody's going to win with over
three hundred. I happen to think it's Donald Trump. Aaron
Rayal is joining us. Young men, they could be the
difference for Donald Trump. Break that down for us. Where'd
Aaron go? I watched Aaron? I don't know. Ericly, don't
hear you? Are you, Michael? Can you hear me?
Speaker 7 (19:13):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (19:13):
You had? Utahan, I was. I actually had a couple
of applications open, and I'm sorry, you know what, I'm
just glad it wasn't me for a change, No, it
was me.
Speaker 8 (19:24):
Sorry, I'm doing this. I'm speaking into like the good
mic in my computer and as a result, there's a
lot going on on the computer. But know what, you're
getting all the good the good sounds.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
So there we go. Yeah, so you've got young men
that could boost Donald Trump over the victory line. Indeed.
Speaker 8 (19:40):
Yeah, So now here's the thing. It's a huge if
in the sense that if if the young men come
out to vote, and they do not historically, but Trump
could do five to seven points better among the young
men than he did in twenty twenty. He won them
in twenty twenty again if they show up. But what's
interesting is Harris leads Trump by twenty points a mon
(20:00):
registered voters under thirty the ones who do vote, and
then women, the female peers of these younger generations.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
They go out and vote much more than.
Speaker 8 (20:08):
The male peers. But again it's like about half that
vote if you're looking at it under under thirty, particularly
eighteen to twenty four. Now, Trump has been at sneaker conventions,
in UFC Championships and the Joe Rogan podcast. He has
a Jake Paul endorsement. And if I mean you mentioned
not classy. I don't know if did anyone see the
mic thing over the weekend that he did. This might
(20:29):
appeal to some very young boys, doesn't necessarily appeal to
independent voters or women.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Well, Satay and Lighte featured that, of course in the
weekend update. Was he meaning to do that? By the way,
it was disgusting?
Speaker 8 (20:43):
Yeah, and not okay, And like I was just like, really,
is this what you want to put out in your
final like to everyone, like, really, this is a reminder
of what bothers people about Trump, and this isn't you know.
You might love JD. Vance and you might love RFK,
you might love everyone around him, but then something like that,
Really that.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
That was not a good moment. Now, the joke thing
with the media, I actually felt like, I mean, again,
you got to discern this stuff. But he's talking about
where there's glass and where there is in glass and
I think he was going somewhere different. And then he
stumbled on that, you know, kind of ad libbed punchline
that you know, the thing in front of this glass
(21:24):
is the mainstream media. You'd have to shoot a shooter
or have to shoot through them. I have the clip.
I don't want to waste the time to play it. Yeah,
I know, Donald Trump. Donald Trump has had some really
really really good smart moves and really really good moments,
and then he has his bad moments too. Kind of
like a comedian, you know, you can go too far.
You know, as long as you're you're perceived is overall funny.
But that doesn't mean you don't have jokes that don't land.
(21:44):
But that one in particular, I don't know what he
was thinking. And you're and I would imagine I'm a
man and I thought it was Yeah.
Speaker 8 (21:52):
My husband said the same thing. It's like, what, like
it's not And he's like, also, it's not like really funny.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
It just looks like stupid.
Speaker 8 (21:59):
Where like your buddy is doing that, you'd be like,
what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Stop? When my son does things like that, he gets
a smack in the back of the way exactly like.
Speaker 8 (22:07):
If you're a parent, you're like, knock it off, And
if you're a friend, you're like, if you look you
look stupid.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
That's one for the right. But but the bottom line is,
you know, because they talk about gender gap all the time,
and yeah, there's a gender gap if they show up
and we don't know how much the abortion issue is
driving women to vote over the grocery store costs and
so on and so forth. I would presume among younger
women abortion would probably have a little bit more influence,
but there's a gender gap for men too for Donald Trump,
(22:35):
So you know, it all comes down to turn out
and then the other big questions. We don't know who's
already voted versus exactly.
Speaker 8 (22:41):
And then also the abortion thing. I want to bring
this up. It's not like only women are, you know,
pro choice. There's men that feel that way too. And
it really what it comes down to more than gender
is age. If you look at the age or and
then of course I'm you know, that was the part.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
I was making younger women more likely. You get above
fifty three years old and there's more pro there's more
pro life women even especially about sixty five exactly.
Speaker 8 (23:06):
Yeah, like it's an age thing, not a gender thing,
almost where it's like young men are all four pro
choice there like.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Yeah, no. But what I think is interesting that you
bring up is of all the things we have discussed
at nauseum. Uh, you know, wouldn't it be funny if
it's something like that never mind Joe Rogan or though
it could be Joe Rogan, never mind early voting, never
mind just you know, it had to do with men,
young men eighteen to twenty five showing up on election day.
(23:31):
That was the decider.
Speaker 8 (23:32):
I mean, and I mean it might be this is
do I think, I don't know, it's it's.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
All of the above, Aaron, So it's not but you know,
we can pick any one of these in post to
ornament and make a big deal a lot of them,
I agree with you.
Speaker 8 (23:43):
And then also the early voting, This is going to
be the election known for like early movieing.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
I agree.
Speaker 8 (23:48):
I'm like, there's just so many people early voting, and
I think that that is going to have a profound
impact because it just it just gives you more of
an opportunity to vote. Think it's going to bring out
more people how they choose to and you know, pull
the lever is going to be indicative of so many things.
But again, if you're pinning your your political future on
young men, here's one you'll.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Find interesting and feel free to steal it when you're
in your meetings with Chris later, because I think this
would be a good one for you or Rory to
do tomorrow. The Joe Rogan issue, the podcast issue. First
of all, you know, we're making a big deal out
of Saturay Night Live, as if Saray Night Live or
CNN or MSNBC have that kind of an influence. But
let me put into perspective for you ready, so we
know that the if, and I don't think you know,
(24:29):
in the case of Kamala Harris, she doesn't average thirty
thousand live attendees. I think Donald Trump might. But either way,
let's say the average rally gets thirty thousand live attendees.
If you compare that to the views by Trump and
jd Vance on Joe Rogan, it would be the equivalent
of four hundred and ninety two events for jd Vance.
It would be the equivalent of one thousand, four hundred
(24:51):
and seventy nine rallies for Donald Trump. You know, if
you start putting into perspective the thirteen and a half
million that watched Joe Rogan seven thousand comments or the
forty four and a half million that watched Donald Trump
and the over half a million comments, I mean, you
could you could see a case where her decision, never
mind getting on a plane going to Saturday Night Live,
(25:13):
in some type of FCC violation. Her inability to show
up on Joe Rogan both of their three hour appearances
on Joe Rope for all we know, that may be
the difference at a time where television and mainstream media
is just not where it's at and social media podcast is.
I mean, we're going to be able to cut this
a million ways afterwards, but.
Speaker 8 (25:33):
I couldn't agree with you more about the Joe Rogan thing,
and if like, I also fundamentally believe, like if you,
I'm a huge Joe Rogan fan. I've listened for over
a decade, and if you listened, really, the only place
they truly connected, I felt was that UFC.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
They had like a fundamental.
Speaker 8 (25:48):
Bond there, and then everything else. I do not think
Rogan they gave him any layups.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
I think he liked JD.
Speaker 8 (25:53):
Vansmore than Trump. Frankly, I have listened to both of them,
and well, the.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
JD Vance one was barely It was all just you know,
two guys talk to him very yeah, if anything was issues,
but not politics and not this election exactly.
Speaker 8 (26:06):
And then my whole point that I'm just trying to
make here is like, whoever told Kamala Harris you shouldn't
show it doesn't matter is dead wrong.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
They blew it.
Speaker 8 (26:15):
You have to show up for that for no other
reason than a Joe Rogan isn't a jerk.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
He's He's just not. He wouldn't be.
Speaker 8 (26:22):
He wouldn't make anyone want to look like a jerk.
And I believe he fundamentally want to talk to her.
And it also leaves people puzzled like, well, wait, why
can't you talk to like are you really?
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Can you really talking to many and by the way,
got to run. But there's too many of those that
are puzzling to the point where I think John Podesta
doesn't want to be stuck with Kamala Harris and defending
her for four to eight years. He wants control of
the House and if he can get that in a
close Senate, he'd gladly give up the White House for
four years to come back with Wes Moore, Shapiro or
others and control it from eight to sixteen. I don't
(26:52):
think they want to win the White House, to be
honest with you, I'd be shocked if they do. But
they do want the House, and they want it bad,
and that's where the circus will really begin. Great reporting.
Appreciate it, Aaron.
Speaker 9 (27:04):
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Ford Coley and my morning show is your Morning Show
with Michael del Jorno.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
The final day before election day, Monday, November fourth, Quincy
Jones has passed away at the age of ninety one.
As I said, just a shameless plug. If you've never
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(27:34):
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want to see Quincy Jones at his best with the
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the Cats and Making Magic, Quincy Jones gone at the
age of ninety one. Poles are showing a tight race.
What was it? Greatest Night and Pop? Yeah, Greatest Night
and Pop. You'll love it. Oh the Linel Richie stories
about Michael Jackson's home, that that alone is a must see.
(27:56):
Falls showing a tight race, but not many people think
this is going to end up tight. In other words,
if Kamala wins or Donald wins and it's too close
to call, one of them is going to win by
over three hundred Electoral College votes and millions of seventy
two million ballots already cast, eighty percent of the Georgia
ballots already cast, forty eight percent of all ballots cast.
And that's assuming that it's not a zero sum game
(28:17):
and we're going to have a load turnout on election day.
And Roy O'Neil's here with the latest polls that there
may be some shifts in key states. Which ones are
you looking at, Rory?
Speaker 6 (28:26):
Well, this Iowa poll that came out this weekend suddenly
shows Iowa in play. I mean, I don't think anyone
saw that coming. But the woman behind the poll, and
Seltzer has got a heck of a track record there
in Iowa. She predicted Donald Trump would win the last
two cycles there in Iowa, which he did, and she
was off by about two points I think. And right
(28:46):
now she's got Harris up forty seven to forty four.
Now that's like a seven point swing since she lasted
a poll in September. But new abortion laws have taken
effect in Iowa in the meantime, and she thinks that's
what may be driving more women to come out to vote.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Well, what makes this difficult is Donald Trump won Iowa
by nine and twenty sixteen over Hillary came back in
twenty twenty during the mail in COVID election and still
won Iowa by eight. The last poll that we had seen,
Donald Trump was up by ten, and then this one
comes out and he's trailing by three it's even a
seven point swing for her. It seems to be a
(29:25):
bit of a reach, but like you said, her track
record and the abortion laws could be driving that. Do
you buy into the And The New York Times came
out with an outbed piece this morning that was saying
very much the same thing. Too close to call, and
I can run down now Donald Trump's in a better
position in all the swing states than he was in
twenty twenty or twenty sixteen. But having said that, it
(29:46):
is too close to call. But no matter how it goes,
it's probably going to go big. Do you buy into that?
I can see that happening.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
If there is this trend of say Trump women Pennsylvania
and then he can capture more of what was the
blue Wall, then yeah, it's gonna go fall like dominoes.
But same in the other direction, is exactly And that
was what some of the Democrats are trying to read
a lot more into this Iowa poll, saying, you know,
if this is what the women are thinking in Iowa,
(30:14):
I bet it's pretty much the same nearby Wisconsin and
in nearby Michigan. And that's some of the reasons they're
trying to translate these Iowa numbers to other parts of
the country.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Yeah. When I was doing my electoral college map, my
problem is, if let's say Kamala takes Pennsylvania, she's gonna
take Michigan too. They tend to fall together, not so
much Wisconsin. I think Donald Trump is assuming that he's
hanging on to North Carolina and Georgia, and assuming gets
at least Arizona on the west coast. He just needs
Wisconsin or Pennsylvania or Michigan. I tend to think they
(30:48):
may all go in one direction. So you know, John
Decker's always on it. It sounds like a cop out,
but I always got what he meant. I could see
Donald Trump winning this with over three hundred electoral votes.
I could see Kamala Harris with over three hundred elect troubles.
It could go either way. And it sounds like it's noncommittal,
but it really is the reality. The other big question
is we just don't know who has voted already. Are
(31:10):
we headed for some kind of a record number still
to come on election day or has it been a
zero sum game and they just voted early and it
shifted right.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
I think I just looked, We've got fifty six percent
already voted here in Florida. I'm also the curious as
to why Trump is in North Carolina so much in
these closing days. I thought that was much more for
him in his back pocket. I would have expected to
see him not leave Pennsylvania. But he's doing what three
stops in two days and now well because he can't.
There is no path outs if you look. If he
(31:39):
doesn't win both Georgia and North Carolina, there is no
path for him.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
He's got to live there. I think he should feel
comfortable with Arizona, and I think he knows he's got
to take Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, or Michigan one of those three.
I know, I think he's played his game right. What
do you make of the you know, because I just
like to be fair like you do, We're going to say,
all right, that's Saturday Live, Shenanigan. There's two ways to
(32:03):
look at that. Is it class list a little bit?
It could have showed sign of desperation maybe, But by
the same token, you know, we could reverse that and say, well,
Nicki Haley coming out and being very strong speaking to
people in a Wall Street journal out ed posts right,
get out there and vote for Donald Trump. You're trying
(32:25):
to mend that fence. Could that be a sign of
desperation that they know those those never Trumper votes and
that push or are concerned that Nicky's people might not
vote like they didn't in the primary forum. I think
they addressed that.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
So I don't know everybody's kind of doing anything smart
And my Florida mentioned again, where has Ron Desanta's been
to help out Donald Trump?
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Well, I don't think Flora does anybody really think Flora's does? No,
But but we haven't seen Desanta's on the trail.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
He hasn't campaigned with him, He hasn't gone out to yeah,
do anything to support the former president.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
He defended them on a couple of issues. Yeah, no,
it's been. It's been much more. To your point, it's
been much more Marco Rubio much more, RFK much more,
Tulsa Gabbard, much more of it back Ramaswami. Maybe that's
for what's what happens in four years from now on
Casey loses? Right, who knows? Time will tell? All Right, Well,
guess what best of all election days tomorrow? And this
(33:20):
is all behind us, at least we think it is.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
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