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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:41):
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Speaker 3 (00:51):
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Speaker 1 (00:52):
FBI director Christopher Ray has resigned, paving the way for
Cash Bettel.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
That's a big.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Story Donald Trump and may I say the picture they
have chosen. They have now revealed the cover of Time
magazine Person of the Year Donald Trump, one of the
best pictures of Donald Trump I've ever seen. Who else
would have been Person of the Year twenty twenty four? Right,
and he'll ring in the bell, the opening bell of
the New York Stock Exchange on Wall Street today.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
And speaking of money.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
And we are America clearly has a spending problem. We've
had record revenue, but that can't offset the huge deficits
and debts. And at the end of the day, energy
is a big part of that. That's how goods and
services are moved. Giving money unearned is a big reason.
You know, got to address manufacturing, got to address regulations.

(01:41):
But make a long story short, America has a spending problem.
And here comes Doge and it's a great start, don't
get me wrong. But how much of a solution alone,
in and of itself is cutting waste and cutting spending?
The ultimate question never asked and therefore never answered. What

(02:05):
is the proper size and role of the government? What
is the job of the government? Is the goal a
big government? Should the best jobs and the most secure
jobs be government jobs? Economists of Money was David Bonson
is joining us from the Bonson Financial Group. Good warning, David,
how good of a start is Doze? And how much
of a solution ultimately could it be in and of itself.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
You know, it's funny.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
I think you kind of hit the real important point
at the end there, which is the question about the
size of government, the question about the function of government.
So let's say Doze is there to take out fraud, waste,
and corruption and it doesn't, and then everyone's going to
say that's a success, and I would agree. I bet
there's a bunch of fraud, wasting, corruption, And if you
save a few hundred billion dollars, that's a ton of money.

(02:53):
And I don't know that they'll do that, and I
don't know they find that much, and I don't know
that they do find that much. It's able to be addressed,
but I'm pretty competent some of that will happen, and
I am really competent.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
That would be a great thing.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
But I don't think that has anything to do with
the biggest issue on the table, which is do we
want a government that is responsible for the entirety at
a federal level of a social safety net. That's the
real multi trillions of spending that we're doing. If we're

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spending about six trillion and about four trillion of it
is going to Medicaid, Medicare, social Security, Obamacare, snap, the
various forms of income support a whole bunch of which,
by the way, society is deemed to be a legitimate
responsibility in government, some of which probably not. But either way,

(03:53):
those things are not really with Dolagi is about. In
other words, doges are going to come back and say, hey,
we decided we don't want to do Obamacare.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
That's been passed.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
Into law by legally elected legislators.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
So we have a couple of things on the table.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
I hope those should take small bites because they're a
little more limited than the big.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Bites, right.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
I mean, that's why I say great start, But the
most it can do is find efficiency and eliminate waste
in an already broken system. Let me get back to this,
because I know I want to speak to the economist
in you, not that theologian. Although there is a moral
portion to this equation. I look at two pivotal historic moments,

(04:34):
being the New Deal, and then keep in mind John F.
Kennedy was shot and killed and Lyndon Johnson comes into office.
Thus you get the Vietnam War, and you also get
the New society, the New Deal and the Great Society.
That's the really bookend that created this mentality is if
there's a hurricane, see the government. If there's an economic crisis,

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see the government. If you're having a financial problem at
because of a risk you took, or even a student loan,
see the government. That the government must always be the
solution that goes well beyond intent priority and safety net. Right,
And the two of the two proven biggest failures were
on poverty.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
What a failure, Well, war on poverty is definitely a failure.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
I think that a lot of Americans view some of
the New Deal programs as a success, which is a
problem because I don't think that they were.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
But that's why history is.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
So important to me, is I think that you know,
he who wins these battles gets to write the history books,
and things like what happened in the Great Depression matter
because then you get to suggest what the right prescriptions were.
And so out of the New Deal people said these
big government spending programs became.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
A solution to some of the problems. And that's either
true or not true. And you have to figure out
what standard you want to use to look at it.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
The only thing I want to say is that I
am not convinced that the New Deal in Great Society
just happened out of nowhere. They are the pivotal moments
that redefined the American government's relationship with the citizenry.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
They are the two big.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
Steps forward in moving past a more limited constitutional, federalist
form of government.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
But why what happened?

Speaker 4 (06:26):
I believe they both followed a period of the church
and civil society taking a lower place in society. In
other words, the church do not take a lower place
in society because government took a bigger one. The government
took a bigger one because self governance in church and
community took a lower one.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Darkness is what simply the absence of light. In other words,
the government never should have had that opportunity, and it
never should beat the church to the poor.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
Right, that would be my view for a number of reasons.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
I don't think that the government can leave anybody, and
I think the job of helping the poor is supposed
to come from love, and also happen to think it's
more efficiently done at a local level. Communities, private charity,
you know, elements of virtue.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
There's nothing virtuous about what is compulsory.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
And so if the poor are being helped because at
the threat of imprisonment, taxes are confiscated and then redistributed
to go help the.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Poor, you may have helped the poor. You may not.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
By the way, as you point out, we have more
poverty now than we started with trillions of dollars ago.
But even apart from the inefficiency argument, you certainly haven't
done anything virtuous. Whereas when there's a big hurricane in
North Carolina and the citizens across the country get together
to pool money, you know, when Walmart is donating goods

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and services, when churches and communities and relief centers.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Are coming to I mean versus FEMA. That says, if
there's a Trump side, to keep ignoring them, right.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Well, exactly exactly.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
And so you just there, we have to decide what
our vision of society is. The original vision of the
Founders was not one in which Washington, DC bureaucrats defined virtue,
defined a charity. And I think that's what we've gone
severely astray.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Yeah, I you know, I kind of view life through
three prisms. One is a biblical worldview, which gives me
access to past, present, and future eternal wisdom through God's word.
I also look at it historically, and I also look
at it geopolitically, because not all policies are the same,
and some are proven failures. Studying the great, the New Deal,

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and the Great Society is a great eye opener. Studying
the history of taxation is a great eye opener. And
the reason I bring it up is in addition to
making the ridiculous statement that, of course, who are against
all violence, Elizabeth Warren then goes on to say, but
you can only push people so far, thus justifying Luigi

(09:07):
Mangione's shooting of a CEO. It's one of the most
despicable things I've ever heard come out of a United
States Senator's mouth. But prior to that, by about fifteen seconds,
she's making the point one of the greatest things that
have preserved freedom and America over the decade, over the
centuries is taxation, that the rich are a little less
rich and prop up the poor. By the way, the

(09:28):
history of taxation didn't happen until war, and they were
temporary taxes twice. Then after World War Two it became permanent,
and then it grew from there. So you know obviously
that was never our intent, and it's all based on envy,
which I think then makes it very much a moral conversation.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
John F.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Kennedy in sixty two when he was talking about the
tax cuts that Reagan would later do, that w would
later do Trump famously would later do. When he made
the case, he said, first of all, morally, it's your
money when you work, that's your money, not the government's money.
And they decide how much you get to he have,
that's the moral obligation one. And then secondly, morally, the
government trusts how you'll spend it. And then I think

(10:07):
you know also of like the Nashville Rescue mission and
what we're able to do for the homeless in restoring
a life to purpose and hope and self sufficiency versus
just giving them money for nothing. There is when the
body of Christ meets the need, It meets the need,
and it changes the heart and the not only eternal destiny,

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but restores the purpose and process of self sustainability on earth.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
That's what makes it all more effectively.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
You're right to point the finger that if the Body
Christ would rise up and do its calling and its job,
government wouldn't have these opportunities to get out of its lane. Well,
at that point even will never cover Oh it can't.

Speaker 4 (10:51):
But you know, I want to point out that your
primis to this it has got to be rooted in
too a biblical worldview, because one of the point you're
making is that it isn't their money, it's our money,
and that presupposed is something that may not be true.
You're presupposing the value of the individual. Well, I believe
in the value of the individual, the right of the

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individual to hold their own liberty and to hold their
own private property, because I believe that they are individuals
made in the image of God, and that they do
not derive their value from belonging to the nation state,
or belonging to any other collective for that matter. But
in fairness to those who want to take all of
our money, some like Marx were is very clear in

(11:36):
communists China, they're very clear that no, your value is
because you belong.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
To a collective.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
This is the fundamental difference between individualists and collectivists. We
actually do believe in the value of the individual and
they do not. And to the extent that our value
is only connected to our belonging to a given community
or a given nation state. I guess they do have
a right to compass our money because it isn't our money,

(12:03):
it belongs to the collective. But we believe in something
very different, and we believe it because God said it,
that God made us individual, and.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
Our nation was formed around those principles.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
The people formed the government to secure these rights. That
worldview derived in the Judeo Christian ethic has to be
front and center once.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Once we flee from.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
Our own worldview, our own presuppositions about how we view
the world in society and mankind's sort of purpose here
on earth, then you're going to get really high taxes
and people are going to go, oh, it's just a
disagreement of economic policy.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
No it's not. It's a disagreement about philosophy of life.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Wrapping up with David bonson form the Bonce and Financial Group.
He is our economist and your morning show contributor and
money with all right, So if doge is a great start,
If doge is nice, first bites, I think you just
said it, but kind of reached so people are clear
before we go, what is the ultimate solution.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Well, the ultimate solution is not happening in four years.
Because it can't happen.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
You can't take four decades or eight decades of eroding
and certain things and fix it in four years as
an incremental solution. But if you're talking about just what
the big low hanging through to public policy needs to be,
I think things like those to try to right size
some of these inefficiencies. But then really he can take

(13:30):
a pretty big bite of the apple. On taxes, there's
a lot that can be done. He did a pretty
good tax bill on the corporate tax side in his
first term, and there's a chance to do some big,
meaningful things there. And you supplement that with energy policy,
energy independence, and then you just pray that they get

(13:51):
a little bit more wisdom on the spending side. If
you come out of another four year presidential term with
a diminished tax rate scenario and you know, more inefficiencies
removed from government with DOGE and energy independence, that's a
very profoundly successful presidency.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
That's the best I'd be.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Hoping for for And I might add he hasn't even
take office, though he seems to be running things already.
The latest CNN poll sixty five percent of the American
people are confident in the job Donald Trump will do
with the economy. It's as if there's something in the air,
something's kind of shifted, something's kind of healed before the

(14:34):
actual healing has taken place already, and we're seeing that
he was touted as a tyrant, as a dictator, as
an insurrectionist, and sixty five percent of the country, by
the way, I'm remember the whole thing about being a
tyrant and a dictator using his power responsibly fifty four
percent or confident he will narratives have died of reality.

(14:56):
That gives us a lot of hope. Betting into the
new year and knowing going to be here in the
new year gives us a lot of hope as well.
Though I think we have one more visit next week.
David Bonson, thanks so much for joining us.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Always a pleasure, my friend.

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From Mary, You have to remember that Senator Elizabeth Warren,
while running for president in twenty twenty, celebrated her birthday
at planned parentid. Yeah, you really have to stop and
let that one so get the virtue of killing a child.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
That's what they've turned abortion into. There was a time it.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Was, you know, at least something people would be ashamed
of you would. I mean, just think of the narcissism, pride.
Think of how much you're missing worldview. There is no God.
He is not sacred you. His create is not sacred.
You weren't created in his image. You're celebrating your birth

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at a place where others don't get the right to
be born. You're right, that is tough to top. But
yesterday basically saying we never promote violence, but you can
only push people so far and they take action to
in any way justify and validate Luigi Mangione's actions in

(18:27):
killing another individual. It's one of the most despicable things
I've ever heard come out of the mouth of a
United States senator. But you're right, I did forget she
celebrated her birthday planned parenthood. She also intimates that it's
fine to target billionaires, but why not millionaires? Oh, because
she's now one of them. Bill and Russellville great, great email, Michael.

(18:52):
I agree that we needed to determine the proper size
and role of government, but the question kind of reminds
me of that program. We're very obese. People try to
lose weight. Some of the people on the program weigh
upwards of seven eight hundred pounds. Well, it is called
my six hundred pound life. So the initial objective should
be to lose weight, a lot of weight. But the

(19:15):
question of what the person's proper weight should be isn't
one we need to worry much about for quite some time, Robin,
and we're Justster, Massachusetts. Yeah, well but I do think that.
You know, look, we all love Dosh because you know,
one of my favorite I'm almost tempted to buy it.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Have you guys been? I happen to play a lot
of spades on my phone. I'm not really proud of
that impact. I'm quite embarrassed and ashamed.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
But one of the ads I see a lot is
this new app that turns out it costs money, but
it will clean up your phone.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
And what does it do.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
It goes and finds all your duplicate pictures delete them,
so you have a just one all the things that
gradually over time grow and waste your storage space, and
it cleans it up. That's what Doze is going to do,
but it's not going to address the ultimate problem of
how you got there. So yeah, I mean, if you're

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a five foot two girl, your ultimate weight should probably
be one hundred and twenty pounds.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Now we're starting at eight hundred. Dose could get us
down to six fifty.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
But I mean, ultimately the standard of our intent, what
the role of government actually is and isn't, what our
role as self governing individuals is and isn't, and our
responsibility that's relevant. We got to start having that conversation.

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Two poles, not polls of plenty, but two very significant
polls today. I wanted to share before we move on one,
the pardoning of Hunter Biden. I found this fast. Now
my take on this has been Joe Biden didn't just
partn his son. He used his son to line his pockets.
He's partning so his son because he's ultimately partning himself

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and his brother. But just the view of partning his son,
how Americans view the partning of his son, twenty two
percent to prove, fifty one percent over double disapprove, eighteen
percent said neither, no real opinion, eight percent don't know.

(21:32):
We slap the eight percent that don't know. If you
don't have an opinion on this, you're just so out
of the No. Ignorance is bliss, of course, until consequence arrives.
Slapp in the face. But The fascinating part of the
poll was when you break it out partisanly, so Republicans,
this wouldn't shock you. Seven percent approve of the pardon,

(21:53):
eighty percent disapprove. Independence, only twelve percent of Independence approve
of this, fifty one percent disapprove. Even among his own
party Democrats, just thirty eight percent approved of impardoning his son.
That's how out of touch he is. That's how to
touch the party is, that's how to touch the view is.

(22:16):
And narrowly twenty seven percent disapproved. Then you had a
little bit higher twenty three percent neither twelve percent don't know, of.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Course, but barely.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
You can't find over thirty eight percent Democrat, Republican or
Independence that approved of it.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
You know, just as we've talked.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
About things, just to move on to Donald Trump and
powerfully look at this poll. This is CNN's latest poll
on optimism over the Trump presidency. No one's thinking about
Kamala Harris, nobody's thinking about Joe Biden. Donald Trump perceivably
is already running the world in the country, and he

(22:58):
hasn't even taken the second oath of office. And here's
the perceptions of the American people. Has delivered live on CNN.
This is how wrong CNN was, This is how out
of touch with America CNN was throughout the.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
First eleven months of this.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Year, and then they got the call to stand there
on camera and report this.

Speaker 7 (23:17):
Listen President, A majority of Americans fifty four percent, say
they expect him to do a good job as president.
And we asked specifically, do you have confidence in all
of these areas about how Trump will perform in his
ability to handle it? And once again, as we saw
throughout the campaign, the economy is issue number one of
his strength. Sixty five percent, two thirds of Americans in

(23:38):
this poll say they have some or a lot of
confidence in Trump's ability to manage.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
And handle the economy. Now, he's going to go down
the list, but think about that. There's not many things
left in America today that you can find two thirds
of us agreeing on, and it's a Donald Trump's going
to fix the economy.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
They're confident.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
They're not regretting something happened and Kamala didn't win, or
Joe was forced out and he didn't win. They know
the economy's broke, and sixty five percent are confident he'll
fix it. Next at sixty two percent is Russia Ukraine.
You often hear Donald Trump say that Ward never would
have started if I was president. Well, they're confident he's

(24:25):
going to resolve it. He may already have immigration. Sixty
percent are confident in his ability to fix our immigration
problem and restore law and order and secure safety, providing
leadership fifty nine percent, Foreign affairs fifty five percent. All

(24:46):
this talk about Tulsey, Gabbert or you know, other appointees,
Fifty four percent think he's appointing the best people. The
last one is jaw dropping using his power responsibly. Think
of the CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBCCBSAP, Axios, the Atlantic Nightly News,

(25:11):
all the constant attacks, all the narrativization. The man's a tyrant,
the man's a dictator, he's a hitler. He should be arrested.
They may have even tried to kill him. He's an
insurrectionist and a tyrant. That's what was drilled into their head.
And fifty four percent of the American people believe he

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will use his power responsibly. They've all underestimated the intelligence
of the American people. Elizabeth Warren, your time is up, AOC,
Your time is up. Nancy Pelosi, your time is up.
Chuckie Schumer, your time is up. And if you don't
all start waking up like Fetterman, your whole party's time

(25:56):
may be up. The Democrats aren't out of touch with
the American people. They're even out of touch with their
own party, and they're becoming as irrelevant as their candidates.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
This is Your Morning Show with Michael Deltono.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
President elect Trump reportedly has invited Chinese President She to
his inauguration.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
Mark Mayfield has that story.

Speaker 6 (26:24):
CBS News cites multiple sources who also stay officials are
making plans for other foreign dignitaries to attend the January
the twentieth swearing in ceremony.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
The report.

Speaker 6 (26:33):
Since Trump invited She shortly after winning the November election,
it's not clear if the Chinese president has accepted the invite.
State Department records dating back to eighteen seventy four show
that a foreign leader has never attended an inauguration by
Mark Mayfield, and the.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Good news is Donald Trump has been named Time magazine
Person of the Year. The cover is spectacular, maybe the
best picture I've ever seen of him. Meanwhile, he gets
more good news that FBI director Christopher Wade doesn't want
to be fired. He's already stepping aside and resigning clears
the way for Cash Pattel to head the agency.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
Brian Shook reports.

Speaker 8 (27:03):
Trump recently told NBC News that Patel is perfect for
the job.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Cashel, I'll tell you, I thought Cash may be difficult
because he's, you know, a strong conservative voice, and I
don't know if anybody that's not saying his praises.

Speaker 8 (27:19):
Patel is a former Justice Department prosecutor. Ray was under
increasing pressure from Republicans to quit now rather than force
Trump to replace him. Ray was appointed by Trump in
twenty seventeen. I'm Brian Shuk.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
President Biden is reportedly warning the incoming Trump administration an
administration of a national security issue in a new classified
memo so classified, Michael Kasner reports.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
Reuter says.

Speaker 9 (27:45):
The document was described by administration officials who did not
want to be identified to reporters in general terms, but
has not been independently reviewed. National security memo reportedly states
that Russia is giving fighter jets, missile defense, and space
technology to a Run in exchange for helping Russia in
its fight against Ukraine.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Reuter says.

Speaker 9 (28:05):
It also states that Russia is giving fuel, money, and
technology to North Korea and is conducting joint patrols with
China in the Arctic. I'm Michael Kasner.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Well, we're deep into the gift giving time of the year.
But if your list includes someone's Santa may call naughty,
there is an out, Pretenna says more.

Speaker 10 (28:24):
Miss Manners says gift giving is a two part process.
The giver chooses something based on need and want and
delivers that gift out of pleasure and kindness. Then comes
part two. The recipient is expected to show gratitude. But
if that doesn't happen over and over, there's an out.
Miss Manners. The Authority on Etiquette says you have permission
to stop gift giving because 'tis the season to be generous,

(28:47):
not crazy. She says, you're opting out of gift giving,
not the holiday. I'm pre tennis.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Two of our biggest markets clash in the National Football
League tonight Thursday Night Football has the Los Angeles Rams
and it's six in San Francisco to take on the
forty nine Ers six and seven. And that's your top
five stories of the day. So, who's flying drones over
New Jersey? Are they actually really drones? Are they from Iran?
Rory O'Neill is here. He always gets the final story, Rory,

(29:14):
what's in the sky above New Jersey?

Speaker 11 (29:16):
Now we know something's up there, we're not exactly sure
what it is. Some witnesses have shown some video that
suggests these drones are about six feet across. I mean,
these are not just little hobby things. These are significant.
But other video out there has been confused with the
airplanes and helicopters and the like.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
Still, the FBI is probably leading the investigation here.

Speaker 11 (29:39):
The Pentagon dismissing claims by New Jersey Congressman Jeff Van
Drew that these are launched by some Iranian mother ship
off the Atlantic coastline.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
So the Pentagon says that's not the case.

Speaker 11 (29:52):
But the governor of New Jersey says he's taken this
very seriously, especially complaints from residents who say these things
are just no easy and aggravating.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
All right, So you pointed out, first and foremost, a
lot of times when these kinds of drone reports come out,
they turn out to be helicopters. So they turn out
to be aircraft. So we don't know for sure that
they are drones. That's number one. Number two, you can't
just shoot them down. Now, that wouldn't stop us here

(30:21):
in Tennessee, I don't think. But there are FAA laws
against doing such a thing. But it ought to be
a no brainer and everyone should agree whatever it is,
it should be investigated immediately. I mean, I like to
think that if iron was flying drones, we would we
would catch it before they started taking out homes. I mean,

(30:42):
what's so hard about figuring out what it is?

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Yeah, that's that's really the struggle here.

Speaker 11 (30:48):
It's also there's a lot of confusion about who's in charge.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
If you see this, who do you call? The FAA?
Not much they can really do about it.

Speaker 11 (30:57):
The Pentagon, well, as you said, they're not going to
shoot it down for fear that you miss and you
hit some house on the ground, or you send the
drone debris smashing into someone's bedroom. Or do you call
the Coastguard, the state police, the local police or ayah?
Are they going to shoot it with a handgun, you know,
a shoulder mounted rocket? Who responds to that and who's

(31:19):
equipped for it? And this is probably something that there
needs to be clear guidelines about because this is a
technology that's not going away, and very soon this is
going to be Amazon is delivering this thing or Dominoes,
and you don't want to be shooting down someone's delivery
of a pizza.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
You know, we did feature you earlier in our Top
Stories of the day covering to do iHeart App. They
went to their best reporter to outline the no. But
it's really neat. They're going to have lyrics so when
you're listening to music you can see the lyrics. I
like the whole thing's kind of being designed kind of
like what we grew up and used to our radio.
So your iHeart app will now have like presets, kind

(31:55):
of like the car.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
It really is going to be neat, Right.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
How is is that rolling out softly now and everyone
by the end of the year.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
How does that work?

Speaker 11 (32:02):
I think one, I think we're one percent of users
are getting the upgrade or eligible for it now, but
they hope to do it all by Christmas. I said
by the end of the year, just to be on
the safe side, but I think they're really targeting the
nineteenth to be honest, that's the secret date.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
But I think they were comfortable with saying by Christmas
now the most important question of the day.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Will your morning show qualifies one of your presets?

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Ooh, there you go. What is it about you?

Speaker 11 (32:30):
I like to be insulted by I'm on the air
when you have like wow, okay, I guess.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
You do you like hearing yourself?

Speaker 1 (32:38):
By the way, No, I never uh huh never listen.
But I listen to a lot of our heart stuff
and you can mix, you know. So I'll put three
of my favorite podcasts there. I'll put three of my
favorite radio stations there, and then I'll lock in your
morning show.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
And you're doing yeah.

Speaker 11 (32:53):
And then they're doing the thing like when you log
into your Netflix or your Hulu when they're showing you
the top ten trending shows. So it'll show you the
top ten trending your grandfather's.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
Application, is it? Yeah? I new iHeart app. All right, right,
we'll talk again tomorrow. We're all in this together. This
is Your Morning Show with Michael del Joano.
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