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December 26, 2024 32 mins

Has the Democrat party collapsed, become rudderless, and does it need a rebranding?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:46):
One season here. Well, it's up at cheer Phone that
we were Fielding the.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
Raising the Sole, people singing songs up at Christmas song
Christmas on the end with the day be sweet, seem
to say away Miss.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Dot and the down is the song once interview birds
from everywhere.

Speaker 5 (01:20):
Fielding's sound crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Sound.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Well, people saying songs of the Christmas Christmas on the send, Don.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
Without Day, Jule Don on the without.

Speaker 5 (01:38):
And let me Yes Indie Anna Sorry guys, Oh yeah,
the Indiana University chorl. I'll tell you what a capella too,

(01:58):
and that's not that's not tonics.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
I know people are like, I love this. That was
something else.

Speaker 5 (02:05):
And Merry Christmas to all of you and welcome to
your morning show with Michael Del Jorno, Jamie Allman here
with you and privileged to be so, and Marry Christmas
to all of you. It's just beginning, and I hope
you're diving in. Well, I know a lot of people
are like, back to work already. You're already in traffic again.

(02:26):
You're thinking, wait a minute, whatever, what happened?

Speaker 2 (02:28):
What happened? Well, you know, yeah, just hopefully you're able to.

Speaker 5 (02:32):
Kind of ease into everything and enjoy the beginning of
the true Christmas season.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
So Happy Christmas to all of you.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
And happy Hanukkah to all of our Jewish brothers and
sisters out there, because for the first time, I give
a long time, we actually had a Hanukkah and Christmas
starting on the same day, December twenty five, So.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Christmas is in a happy Hanukkah to all of you
out there.

Speaker 5 (03:02):
Also another record set, and this was during the football game,
the Ravens game, and I think I saw this pop
up on the screen.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
It was like seventeen to two at some point.

Speaker 5 (03:14):
It was the first time in NFL history that that
score ever appeared in a game.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
So I'm like, wow, that's crazy. Plus is it my
understanding that I'm thinking.

Speaker 5 (03:27):
To myself, well, how come there's a lot of stuff
going on on Christmas Day? Back in my day, you know,
you weren't. There wasn't football, But people are all at
the stadiums, all the announcers, everybody's having their football time.
And I'm like, they're playing football on Christmas Day. Like
I I sometimes feel kind of weird with my kids.

(03:49):
I'm like a crazy man, and like, well, if you
were making seventeen million dollars a year, would you play
football on Christmas Day?

Speaker 2 (03:59):
I'm thinking, yeah, yeah, sure would. I think I'd probably
do that. All right.

Speaker 5 (04:05):
President Trump just absolutely going gangbusters on Christmas Day, because
after all right, he's tweeting at or I'm sorry truth
socially at about one o'clock in the afternoon, and first
he has a whole paragraph about how he wants to
take back Greenland, and he congratulates the Chinese troops who

(04:27):
are now guarding the Panama Canal, and we want that back,
and he's gonna rename mout McKinley.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
He's going to bring that back.

Speaker 5 (04:38):
And so he's getting into all these really great meat
and potatoes type of trolling on Christmas but I'm thinking, well,
if people can watch football at one o'clock in the afternoon,
President Trump, sure as heck, can go ahead and start
truth socially at one o'clock in the afternoon on something
not Christmas y. That's fine, that's great because people by
that time are kind of done with that part of

(04:58):
the day.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
And you know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 5 (05:01):
Then he decides he's going to truth social about Canada.
And so this is about a half hour later, and
he's suggesting that Wayne Gretzky run for the prime minister
spot there in Canada.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
And this is what he said. This is too crazy.
Although I have to tell you I.

Speaker 5 (05:24):
Like Pierre the common sense conservative who apparently is doing.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Very rare well in Canada.

Speaker 5 (05:31):
And I let you hear him on Monday when I
was filling in for Michael and he's a great guy.
So I probably prefer him over Wayne Gretzky. But still
for the purposes of just kind of having a little fun,
he says, I just left Wayne Gretzky, the great One,
as he is known in ice hockey circles. I said, Wayne,

(05:54):
why don't you run for Prime minister of Canada? Soon
to be known as the governor of Canada. You'd win easily.
You wouldn't even have to campaign. He had no interest.
But I think the people can should start a draft
Wayne rescue movement.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
It would be so much fun to watch.

Speaker 5 (06:11):
And of course, you know, I don't know how that
makes the current common sense conservative feel, but it's not.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
It's not really beyond the rible of comprehension.

Speaker 5 (06:22):
But it's something that you kind of, you kind of
are going to get from President Trump, who is having
fun and not all of this has to be brain surgery.
Let's fool around a little bit. Let's let's play a
little game here and there. Let's relax a little bit.

(06:42):
So you know, even when he suggested that the possibility
that Elon Musk could be house speaker, it's like.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Oh, how could you say that?

Speaker 5 (06:50):
It's terrible? It's like, well, first of all, it's you
can be house speaker. You and me could be house
speaker if the Founding Fathers had their way. You don't
have to be an elected politician. But it's not that
big of a deal. Well, it's not very proper. It's
not how we do things. And I love how he
exposes all the dinosaur type approaches to life that we've

(07:17):
bought into and politics that we have bought into, and
sometimes I realize he's, you know, the president elect, and
you know, the job of being commander in chief and
president is a is a serious one, but you can
have a little fun too at the same time. And
that's what I really am enjoying. As we head into

(07:39):
this beautiful Christmas season, onto Epiphany and into January, there
seems to be a level of lightness that I had
not seen for a while, and I don't think it's
as hoppity and hippity for people who voted for Kamala.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
This is your morning show with Michael del Chno.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Maybe you can decide this for me.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
I'm trying to think of like the twelve Days of
Christmas they begin on the twenty sixth, or to begin
on Christmas Day.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
That that I can't figure out, and I'm not really
good at math.

Speaker 5 (08:21):
I think I got a three ninety on my SAT
back in the day, back when they took SAT.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
So if you let me know you can.

Speaker 5 (08:29):
You can hit the talk back button on the iHeart
app and there's a microphone there and you could clear
it up for me.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
That would be great and ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 5 (08:39):
I don't know whether or not I feel like I'm
I I know what's wrong with me, because first I
was just talking to Red.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Was the off the air I did?

Speaker 5 (08:48):
Is it my imagination or did the Christmas football thing
just come out of nowhere?

Speaker 6 (08:55):
Do?

Speaker 1 (08:55):
I mean?

Speaker 5 (08:56):
I don't know where I was last Christmas because I
don't remember football being on or watching football or whatever.
And then suddenly fast forward, like everything is fun now,
and I don't know whether that's just because we're in
a new day. And of course, you guys know I
love Donald Trump, so I'm just kind of that. I

(09:18):
don't want to be too much of a fanboy on that,
but you know what I mean, I'm thinking like everything
is kind of changing. It seems a little bit like
everybody seems to be happier and things start to be
a little looser and people aren't taking everything so darn seriously.
And I don't know if it's getting that vibe. And
maybe it's just because I'm a happy he got reelected.
I don't know. But anyway, we have the two football games,

(09:42):
and you know it's Baltimore Knisey Chiefs. Of course I'm
a big fan of them and seventeen to two, first
time in history that score ever showed up. And then
they had the halftime show, and I'm thinking to myself,
wait a minute, am I watching the Super Bowl here?
Because first of all, I'm the only one in the
house watching the halftime show.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
So I've got a in the house.

Speaker 5 (10:07):
I have a twenty year old son in a house
who's home from college, my seventeen year old daughter, and
my fourteen year old daughter, and I'm the only one
watching the halftime show. And it's Beyonce and Post Malone,
Shaboozie and Blue Ivy. And I'm fascinated by this. And

(10:28):
of course it's not because I'm some dirty old man,
look at it beyond, That's not what it is. I'm
just fascinated by the pageantry of the halftime show on
a Christmas Day football thing. I'm like, I don't even
know where I am. I'm like, wait a minute, It's
Christmas Day. Is one o'clock of the afternoon, I'm watching football,

(10:49):
and then I'm watching a halftime show that's like the
Super Bowl, Like, is what is happening here?

Speaker 2 (10:56):
And how great is that? And I happen to like
Beyonce they have a lot of respect for me. I
don't care whatever. I don't know. I can't keep up
with these people.

Speaker 5 (11:03):
I don't know what a Postable all I love, and
Shaboozie's outstanding, and Blue Ivy I don't really know much about.
But and Postable Loan's cool. If you've ever if you
look at him, he's got one of these guys like
you look at him and he's got tattoos all over
his face and all over his body everything else. And

(11:25):
when you see him interviewed, he's always like yes, ma'am, no, ma'am, yes, sir, no, sir, well, sir.
He's like the most polite, engaging guy on the planet.
Not that I stereotype people with tattoos, but I'm just
saying that generally, if people were a little judgie, they
would be like, damn, that guy looks rough whatever, and

(11:47):
the guy's like the sweetest guy on the planet. Postable
Hone is so plus. I love his music. But I
was just amazed by the joyfulness and the pageantry of football.
And like I said, at one point, I was like, well,
it's Christmas, what are they doing playing football? Look at
those people at the stadium, like, well, maybe they love it,
like oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, I think they

(12:10):
probably do. Never mind, and maybe making fourteen million dollars
a year. I played football too, and maybe I just
have Christmas because it is, after all, Christmas for the
next few days until January sixth, until Epiphany. It's fine,
but I was just mesmerized. It was just kind of
like a whole New ballgame, pardon the pun. And then

(12:34):
you know, this is right after Elon Musk is the
posting Ronald Reagan's stuff on X I'm thinking, wait a minute,
you mean to tell me people are suddenly bringing back
Ronald Reagan?

Speaker 2 (12:48):
I mean, could could life be any more fun?

Speaker 6 (12:50):
You and I were boys back in the Midwest. Right,
government's federal, state, and local. We're only taking about fifteen
cents out of every dollar earned. Today, they're taking almost
half every dollar.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Earned in the United States.

Speaker 6 (13:02):
Most people don't realize it because the taxes are hidden
in the so called business taxes. You know, the politician
that stands up and yells, oh, let's save the little man,
let's tax business, and everybody yell's are ray.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
They haven't figured.

Speaker 6 (13:13):
Out that every tax on business is just a part
of the cost of production and the customer winds up
paying it when he buys the product.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
It's a hidden sales tax. There's one hundred and sixteen
of them in the suit of clothes that each one of.

Speaker 7 (13:27):
Us has ever suppose A lot of the economists have suggested,
and that I don't know there'll ever come to be
in this country, that they're if they closed all of
the loopholes and corporations and maybe tax loopholes and even
on their rich certain loopholes, and made a percentage income
and made a flat fee without all of the deductions,
that the government might raise as much money as they

(13:48):
do now.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Oh sure, And really the loopholes.

Speaker 6 (13:52):
This has been overdone by the politicians too, the bulk
of the money that has taken. But what are called
loopholes are the legitimate deductions with which the people didn't
have them, they couldn't pay their income.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Text.

Speaker 5 (14:02):
Yeah, and just even him talking in this Calvin Coolidge
esque manner, and Elon Musk reposting this, this is a
Johnny Carson and Ronald Reagan. The way he was talking
then is so simple and it is so amazing. And

(14:23):
by the way, Calvin Coolidge, who is my hero aside
from Ronald Reagan. Calvin Coolidge back in nineteen twenty four,
it was the first time a president had ever been
recorded on both film and audio. You can look it up,
and I want you to listen to that great speech

(14:45):
that he gave. That's only a few minutes, but he
talks about this is about ten years after the diabolical
federal income tax was passed, and that was in nineteen thirteen,
and Coolidge is, I'm noticing something here that isn't good.
We're starting to balloon the federal government, which was never

(15:09):
intended to balloon. The founding fathers all never envisioned a
direct federal income taxes. Is why they had to change
the constitution and ripped at the shreds. It was always
the stage collecting taxes and putting the federal government on
a diet. And Cooler was like, you know, we're continuing

(15:31):
to grow the federal government at rates that are untenable
for normal, average, everyday people.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
And he said, you know, sooner or later, what.

Speaker 5 (15:43):
We're going to be in a situation is that we're
going to have we're going to be working a certain
portion of our week just for the federal government and
what's like Reagan just indicated here on the Johnny Carson Show,
businesses were being affected because they were they rose, the
costs of doing business became untenable, the taxes became untenable

(16:10):
for all these people creating and.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Producing This is your Morning Show with Michael Deltno.

Speaker 5 (16:26):
So the Democrat Party has a problem on its hands.
And I don't know whether you care one way or
the other. It's kind of like it's almost like we've
we've already done that. We've been there, done that in
the I'm a common sense conservative, so I you know,
I'm I generally have had a few issues with the

(16:49):
Republican Party much like I have with the Democrat Party,
and not all the time do these two parties really
truly represent common sense so to speak? But I will
tell you that the Republican Party has transformed.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
There was a time.

Speaker 5 (17:04):
When people were thinking, well, maybe Trump should just run
as an independent and forget about the Republican Party that
actually helped ruin him in his first term, which it
actually did. So, but what is the what is the
philosophy here in terms of transforming the Republican Party?

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Is it worth saving?

Speaker 5 (17:29):
Should it just go the way of the Whigs should
just Romney take it and go Romney Lindsey. You guys,
you can take your Republican Party, have it, and Trump
will just run as an independent whatever. President Trump did
something that I think is gracious to the Republican Party, and.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
That is he saved it.

Speaker 5 (17:53):
He reformulated it, he rebranded it. He made it completely
different than the Republican Party that we once knew, but
a Republican Party that we did once to know. If
you're old enough to remember, I'm talking about Ronald Reagan
and not Calvin Coolidge.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Okay, you're if you're one hundred and fifty, maybe you
remember that.

Speaker 5 (18:17):
But I'm just saying that he took the party and
within the structure of that party built something completely different,
but still kept the body of the party itself, which
was a wise move because at that point, you know
you're changing an independent you get so now, the Republican Party.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Is a very broad based party.

Speaker 5 (18:43):
In fact, it's weird because a lot of traditional Republicans
are not identifying with the party as it is right now,
and that's kind of tough luck.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
I mean, you're gonna have to figure out something else.
I don't know what you're gonna do.

Speaker 5 (18:57):
But it's not identified liably Republican as we once knew it.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
It's obviously reagan Esque.

Speaker 5 (19:07):
And I mean a lot of the people who didn't
like Donald Trump were always talking about Ronald Reagan.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Ronald Reagan.

Speaker 5 (19:12):
It's like, well, he's probably closer to Reagan than any
of these other goofballs were. And so I don't know,
I don't know what your problem is with him, nor
is with with creating a bigger tent. And so that's
the Republican Party now, and Donald Trump is saving it,
and he's got some really great people who are embracing it.

(19:35):
He's got people who are from reaches that generally were
not really identified as Republicans. He's got people who are
in inner city Chicago, people like Steven A. Smith, RFK Junior,
all these people Elon Musk, all these people who have
gravitated towards it and and feel safe inside of a

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party that otherwise, really, when it was identified with McCain
or Romney or even GW. Bush, really was not a
comfortable place to be. And so the Democrats are now
in a real pickle themselves. They have to find out
what they're going to do. And I'm no fan of

(20:21):
Occasial Cortes. I'm really not necessarily, but do you see
what happened with her? And you know, he's here's a
Democrat party that prides itself on being this kind of open, liberal,
take all comers, woke kind of atmosphere, and she gets

(20:42):
a chance to be on the Oversight Committee and they
choose an old white dude. Now I have no problems
with old white dudes because I happened to be a
white dude, so I don't really have.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Any puzzles it.

Speaker 5 (20:56):
But it is funny how they talk this game about
being so open and so modern and everything else, and
then when they have a chance to kind of rebrand
themselves and change their tune a little bit, they go
the opposite direction.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
And so now they're really in shambles. I don't know
what they're gonna do.

Speaker 5 (21:19):
I mean, you've got Biden, You've got Pelosi, you've got
watch his face.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Who's now the OVERSEEC commanded even know his name? Who
do you have?

Speaker 5 (21:29):
James Carville who decided his main contribution to a post
mortem on the election is to yell and cuss about
twenty three year olds. And this was obviously in the
context of well they didn't, they recommended she not go
on podcasts or whatever it. Listen, believe me, first of all,

(21:51):
you have two problems here. You're attacking young people who
are working for the Democrat Party and are investing in
the Democrat Party. And second you're insinuating that Kamala Harris
listened to twenty three year olds instead of herself or whatever.
And either way, it's a land mine that only blows
up when you step off of it. It's bad news

(22:13):
either way.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
So then when you have this.

Speaker 5 (22:18):
Interesting little bit here with a woman who is a
former state senator from California, and she basically her name
is Gloria Romero, and she said, listen, Democrat Party, you're
on the verge of extinction.

Speaker 8 (22:37):
That in history, we are seeing a major inflection point,
the complete collapsing of the Democratic Party. This party refuses
to recognize that it has lost its way. It's a chapter,
it's gone with the wind. And basically we are seeing
the end of this. Whether a new party emerges, that.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Will wait to be and quite possibly that might have
to happen.

Speaker 5 (23:06):
But the Democrats need to take a page from what
the Republicans found and that was a new avenue of enlightenment.
Now I'm not quite sure how this is going to
work for the Democrat Party because basically what happened is
and Trump's talent here was that he basically turned the
Republican Party into both Republican and Democrat. I mean, I

(23:31):
don't know how much more independent you can get as
a party right now than the Republican Party is. So
I don't know what the Democrat Party, what are you
going to come up with? How are you going to
to morph and how are you going to change? And
who are you going to appeal to. I mean, there's
still obviously some people out there who are going to
be in that category where they they still think Trump's

(23:54):
a fascist and all this other stuff, but.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
They're not many.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
This is your Morning Show with Michael Deltona.

Speaker 5 (24:10):
I am Jamie Allman, pleased and privileged to be with
you on this day and interesting enough, So this was
the first time in a long time where Hanikkah and
Christmas started on the same day and fifth, so happy
Hanukah to all of our Jewish friends out there, and
Merry Christmas to.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
All of you as well.

Speaker 5 (24:29):
So interesting enough, this is a great time to talk
about what's happening with the Church of England.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
So what the Church of England did, and this is
what happens when I.

Speaker 5 (24:42):
Was just talking about the Democrat Republican Party, this is
what happens when you don't stand for anything and you
just sit there and basically water yourself down to where
you're unidentifiable as really anything. And the branding element that

(25:03):
President Trump gave to the Republican Party was really great.
It would otherwise cost millions of dollars if you were
trying to be a product on the store shelves. And
that's make America great again, common sense revolution. All those

(25:23):
things that President Trump talked about were branding mechanisms and
nobody knows branding and marketing better than President Trump. And
so that really gave the Republican Party a brand new identity.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
So back to the Church of England.

Speaker 5 (25:41):
What they decided to do was they issued a proclamation
to the clergy in this case it was in Birmingham
in the United Kingdom, and to watch out for problematic
words in Christmas carols and impliedge Jesus is the true Messiah,

(26:05):
or other religions aren't valid or what have you, and
I don't know one Christmas carol that says other religions
are aren't valid. If there is one and I'm missing it,
I'm sorry, but I don't really recall any Christmas carol
insinuating other religions are not valid.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
But the Church of England believes that simply calling.

Speaker 5 (26:31):
Jesus the true Messiah is therefore invalidating other religions, which
actually isn't true. So if you believe that Jesus is
the true Messiah, that doesn't mean that you don't respect
Jewish people or Muslim people or what have you. It's
what you believe in. And if that's what you believe

(26:54):
in and that is working for you, I happen to
believe it. But that's what you believe in and it's working,
and knock yourself out, enjoy it, but don't water down
your brand. And so this is what happens to political parties,
This is what happens to people, This is what happens

(27:14):
to countries. When you basically start to stand for nothing,
you fall for everything right. And so when you don't
even respect your own self and what you're made of
and who you are and your identity, then are you
How is it possible that anybody else is going to

(27:35):
respect any part of you or any level about you.
And so the Church of England is doing really a
strange thing here, and I think this is the avenue
where individuals then decide they're just going to move in takeover.
And I think the UK has a real problem on
its hands, much like the Democrat Party, because they really

(27:58):
don't stand for you don't know who they are, you know,
you don't they're they're non identifiable. And I know that
people on the Republican side have always said, oh, I
envy the Democrats because they always seem to be on
the same page.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
But when you're on the same page and.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
You your page is blank, then you're it's kind of
a useless endeavor in that sense, I would think.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
And so a lot of I don't I think the Republican.

Speaker 5 (28:28):
Party when people are fighting in it and at odds
and different that's why I loved I'm not quite sure
I'm a big fan of the Next House Speaker fight,
but when McCarthy was I thought that this is good,
This is good for our republic to have these kinds
of exercises and this kind of division, because division is
a good thing in a lot of ways, because it
builds character and it builds identity. And as long as

(28:52):
you're not doing it at the expense of somebody, or
you're not burning things down just to burn them down,
I think, uh sometimes division is good.

Speaker 7 (29:02):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (29:03):
And division built this country to a certain degree because
you gotta have figure out like who you're gonna be,
what you're gonna be.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
And that's okay when you're in a situation like that.

Speaker 5 (29:14):
As long as you're not stepping on people or taking
away other people's rights and and and you're joyful about it,
then it's great. And and you know, it's one of
the things that I always was so amazed when people
were crapping all over Donald Trump and saying he's a
fascist and he's this and this, and I got the

(29:35):
guy is like.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
As loose as you could possibly get.

Speaker 5 (29:38):
Sometimes too loose for some of the other Republicans who
thought he was a little too coarse for them.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
You know, they're the pearl clutchs out there.

Speaker 5 (29:45):
Because I've actually got a pretty good sense of humor
sometimes And I remember this like it was yesterday. Don't
have to play this for you tomorrow, because I because
it's a great speech, one of his greatest speeches, I think.
And no, it wasn't the speech that he gave in Pole,
which I thought was awesome. It wasn't the speech he
gave to the Muslim world. It was a speech he

(30:07):
gave to a bunch of fans where he said, you know, uh,
people are like Obama had a dog, and people.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Want me to have a dog.

Speaker 5 (30:15):
And he said, I know you all love your dogs, Like,
what do you think I would look like walking a
dog or playing with a dog on the lawn?

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Right?

Speaker 5 (30:25):
And this is the guy who never is without a
tie except when he plays golf maybe, and and and
he was being honest and authentic about that, saying, you know,
I it's not what people expected me.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Is that what people would think of me? And can
you envision it?

Speaker 4 (30:43):
Now?

Speaker 5 (30:43):
You think Donald Trump? What do you think he would
look like walking a dog or playing with a dog.
I can't explain why it's not his brand, but that
but he said that, And I was like, wow, you know,
you're right. I don't know how, but so he knows
who he is at least, and he knows who Barack
Obama isn't. And he trolled Barack Obama on the True

(31:08):
Social yesterday on Christmas and it was like it was divine.
And he put a picture up of him at the
inauguration smiling in Obama because when you see the guy
who said you'll never be president at your inauguration, we'll go.

Speaker 9 (31:24):
Down as perhaps the worst president in the history of
the United States exclamation point at real Donald Trump, at
the real Donald Trump.

Speaker 5 (31:35):
At least I will go down as a president.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
He'll never be president, said Barack Obama.

Speaker 5 (31:42):
And it's so interesting because at the time Obama was like,
you know, this presidency thing, it's pretty serious business. I mean,
you just can't just it's not marketing.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
It's not this, it's not that.

Speaker 5 (31:52):
And actually Donald Trump said, yeah, it is marketing, but
it's authentic marketing. It's authentic branding. It's believing in the
country and more importantly, believing in the people. So maybe
that's a lesson. But I'll tell you what, Hey, UK,
love you. I wouldn't want to be a but stand
for something or stand for nothing.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
People.

Speaker 5 (32:14):
I am so happy that you've been with me here
on your morning show with Michael del Journo. I am
Jamie Allman, wishing you a rest of your day. That
is blessed and joyful. I'll see you tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
We're all in this together. This is Your Morning Show
with Michael Ndheld journo
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