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Speaker 2 (00:17):
This is your Morning Show with Michael del jorn O
Jamie Alman here really happen to be filling in some
of you going back to work, if only for a
few hours, right, because you took all week off whatever,
and now you're kind of ready to go back. Just
to kind of give a nod to the time clock,
so to speak. Speaking of time clocks, we're going to
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get into the H one B visa debate, and it's
a really good one to have. The way it is
being processed is totally and completely unnecessary. We're in a situation,
I think where you know, Elon Musk over the weekend
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tweets out this profane and ridiculous statement about people who
are concerned about the expansion of the H one B
visa program and insinuates that people who are against the
program or raising questions about it are racists, and it
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just is not a good look.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
And it is also.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Then paving the way for a more serious question about
whether or not President Trump has to rain a guy
like this in. And President Trump winds up then kind
of reiterating, although he doesn't address it, the importance of
the H one B program, which.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Isn't the question.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
So it was a little frustrating over the weekend if
you are someone who was looking forward to the.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Brand New Day.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Twenty twenty five and the make America Great Again movement,
when you've got a couple of guys Vivek and Elon
out there gunslinging and calling people racist because they have
legitimate concerns about the H one B visa program that
Trump had in twenty twenty. So it's and again, I
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was so glad when Elon Musk he opined about the
budget situation and everything else. He's not an elected officially,
he shouldn't be doing that. I'd say, well, that's really
actually not a reason. He absolutely should be speaking about it.
I'm glad he was. And this isn't about freedom of speech.
It's about whether or not you really want to get
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into something that is unnecessarily alienating everybody one way or
the other. And you see these fights on Facebook, You've
probably seen him on Twitter or x and debates all
around about the H one B program and Elon Musk,
and at some point, at this point, I'm gonna be
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honest with you. I'm just gonna be absolutely honest with you.
I didn't vote for Elon Musk. So that's just where
it's at right now. I didn't vote for him, and
so I wanted to speak. I want him to be formidable.
He is obviously a big part of the Trump administration,
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but I didn't vote for him, and so I voted
for Donald Trump and I did. And that's where I'm
kind of drawing the line in my the likability factor
of Elon Musk. I'm like, dude, I like you, but
I would like you to take your place in the
scheme of things, if you don't mind, and especially on
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a really big issue like this, not create problems and
put your boss in a bad position, because that's actually
one of the worst things you could do do normally.
And you guys know this, and all you people know
this in your daily lives. Is when you suddenly put
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your boss in an uncomfortable situation publicly, it doesn't usually
work out really super well for you. But of course
President Trump has no choice at this point. He's not
going to fire Elon Musk or do any of that.
So Musk is taking full advantage of that, which bothers me.
And if you want to just go back to the
basics on the H one B visa program, I think
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we all can agree that it has legitimate purposes, has
in all likelihood in many ways, and you could probably
list them. Benefited our country, benefited our industry, particularly the
tech industry. I don't think that the value of the
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H one B VISA program by itself is in dispute here.
The disputed part is unfortunately coming from the opinions of
Vivak and Musk, and that is that if you're cautious about.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Expanding the program, you're a racist.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
And the reason why we need to expand the program
is because American workers are stupid. Those two things do
not work in Trump world, they do not work in magaworld,
and they actually don't work anywhere, and they're provably false.
So the racism part is ridiculous and that's just that's
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the game of amateurs, is calling people racist and doing
that kind of thing. But to the reality about the
intelligence of the American worker, you have to understand that
a government that funds educational institutions who then turn around,
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after being taxpayer funded, slot out thirty percent of their
tech school slots to Chinese and Indian foreigners. That's not
a legitimate use of taxpayer dollars. And that's not legitimate
in any way, shape or form. So if taxpayers are
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funding these institutions that are locking out thirty percent of
Americans from even having a chance of getting a tech education,
that's something that needs to change. That has to change.
That is not legit. That's not cool. The elementary and
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secondary education Science and Technology curriculum STEM is being artificially
suppressed by our Department of Education. You guys realize you
remember back in the day, like eight years ago, you were, hey,
whatever happened to STEM education? Yeah, just came and went,
didn't it. It used to be like a big deal
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in all the and now all these private entities are
having to kind of push it forward. I know a
couple of entities like that because the public schools there's
taxpayer funded school systems are not supporting it that they're
they're suppressing it. And I think it's it's a cultural
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and political type of conspiracy to kind of keep the
American worker down in a certain way and uneducated in
a certain way, because industry and others pursue it through
their politicians who they're funding, who are more than happy
to go ahead and get them the cheap labor that
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they really want out of this. And that's really the problem.
The H one bv VISA program is violated routinely by
many organizations who are not abiding by the law which
says you have to prove that this job is not
wanted or being pursued by an American worker before you
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get an H one B visa. That doesn't happen anymore
they would abide by that. We've got temp agencies who
have stacks in H one B visas who are just
simply shuttling people in.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
We'll have more on this on the other side of.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
This is Your Morning Show with Michael Deltrono.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I gotta tell you, packers fans are some of the
nicest people. I was at a place yesterday and a
bunch of people watching the Packers.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Game, and they lost a brutal game.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
But you know Packers fans when they lose, well, maybe
you know other Packers fans that are more Forloren or
rougher like Bills fans might be, but Packers fans when
they lose, they just couldn't know. Well, better luck next time.
It must be the Wisconsin thing. I have no idea
when they lost that game twenty seven to twenty five,
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and probably should have won the game, and I was
watching the Commanders beat the Falcons, and speaking of technological
wizardry and technological acumen, I have none of that.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
And I watched the game in.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Spanish solely because I could not operate the remotes.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
There are two of them, and I have two teenage
daughters at home who I could have asked, but that
would have required me to go upstairs and knock on
doors and do all this kind of stuff. And maybe
it was also not only lack of intelligence but also
a innate, built in laziness that just made me just
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sit there because actually I got I finally got the
Spanish version of the game, and then I was actually
intrigued by it because it was kind of fun to
watch and fun to hear there's guys rule there are
is and get excited. It was almost like watching soccer
to a certain degree, and you can kind of tell
what was going on. And since Spanish is really not
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too hard to understand necessarily, I took seven years of it,
but I still can't speak it, but I can read
and understand it when you're talking, and so to me
that was a little bit easier.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
But I just sat there and I was like, oh,
this is interesting.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
It's kind of like what you all do when you're
clicking around aimlessly and you stop by the Hallmark channel
and there you are in deep in a Hallmark Christmas
movie or something.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Because I did that one time with Murder, she wrote.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I love Murder, she wrote, And one time I just
was clicking around when actually it was easier to operate
the remote because there was an easier system on the TV.
Landed on a murder, she wrote, episode, and stayed up
till like two in the morning watching one murder, she
wrote after another. I don't know what channel this was,
and I don't know how it happened, but it was
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like it was like murder. She wrote, Palooza for some reason,
and that's all there was. I couldn't stop, couldn't stop
watching it. Anyway, back to the technological discussion the H
one B visa program. And here's Eric Schmid. He's from Missouri,
he's a senator. He was on Fox News Sunday and
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talked to I mean, and this is where we're supposed
to have serious discussions. I don't believe that Elon Musk
and Vivek Ramaswami are engaging in serious intellectual discussions about
an issue that is really super important to Americans. And
the America First agenda is super important to people who
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voted for Donald and so people who promote the America
Second agenda don't come across very well. Regardless of whether
I have they have good points, because we know the
H one B program is a decent program, has been
used effectively whatever. But center Schmidt points out it's been
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abused problems.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
Well, I think there's been a lot of abuse. And
that's what's driving Shannon a lot of this discussion right
now is the abuse that's happened with this where you
see qualified Americans being denied a lot of these jobs
because a company can go out and hire cheaper labor
from a foreign country, right, That is really the abuse.
And so the reforms that President Trump put forward in
twenty twenty, which by the way, we're canceled by Joe Biden,
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canceled by Joe Biden, had to do with right now,
it's a lottery. There's really no merit to this. It's
just a lottery.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
So you see.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Companies trying to gain the system it companies sometimes putting
thirty thousand applications in hoping to get ten thousand from
a random lottery.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
That is a system.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
I think that needs to be reform. President Trump's to
about that. And then also undercutting wages by bringing in somebody,
you know under a loophole, for example, you can't have
it be the same employer, but it's a consulting firm.
So those are the kinds of things, and I think
the starting point that President Trump articulated when he wanted
to reform this very broken system back in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
And do you notice how Senator Schmid is kind of
subtly reminding even President Trump that there was a time
when there was a serious discussion about this program and
the abuses of it.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
There was a time when you stood up.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Against the powers it be who were abusing the American worker,
the American system, undercutting wages, and bastardizing a program that
was legitimately originated but now is illegitimately used.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
And you don't want.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
To go ahead and hand this over to a couple
of people who are calling Americans racist and dumb and
uneducated because they don't understand the system and are part
of it. That doesn't make any sense. That is you
handing over a really super crucial important issue to individuals
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who don't appear to have the appreciation for intellectual discussion
about this that I think is required. And President Trump
is the bigger man here. I think Senata Schmidt is
encouraging him to remember when he actually talked about this
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issue and he's not a racist. And you just have
to pull back the reins on Musk and Ramaswami, as
good guys as they are, because I really have a
ton of respect for them. At some point you have
to be taking the leadership role on this, and certainly
you don't want your employees running around and calling decent
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Americans racists and especially using the F word and all
this kind of stuff when they have legitimate concerns about
the trajectory of the H one B program. You have
to stay with your America First agenda because people voted
for you. They did not vote for Elon Musk and
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Vivek Ramaswami. And this is a really big deal. And
the civil war is absolutely unnecessary and can be avoided.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
And I think Senator Schmid did that.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
This is your Morning Show with Michael Deltno.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
If you are the Department of Education, you should not
be suppressing elementary and secondary education and even the higher
education pursuits as it relates to STEM, which is the
science technology focus. And so that's what's happening though, because
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they're too busy focusing on other things in your public
schools as opposed to STEM education. The people who are
doing well with education are private schools or even entities
clubs and things like that that focus on STEM. But
you'll notice a really intense lack of focus on science
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and technology curriculum in public schools. And when I say
public schools, they are public schools, taxpayer supported schools. So
that's not the fault of dumb Americans. That's the fault
of a government that is not utiling the brains of Americans.
And then you also move on to taxpayer funded educational
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institutions that automatically give thirty percent of their seats in
the classroom to Chinese and Indian students thirty percent, and
MIT does that, So you have to ask.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
For some accountability on that level.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Now, as to just the relative intelligence of American workers
versus Indian workers, let's say that's completely off base. There's
no factual basis on which to say that. And in fact, anecdotally, yes,
Americans had made mistakes before. But let's just go to
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the Boeing seven thirty seven max. And the reason why
the Boeing seven thirty seven max is no more and
why Boeing wound up in tatters is because of glitch
is and problems with the software on the plane. That
software was developed by subcontractors in India, and that software
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was developed by nine dollars an hour Indian technicians. And
that's a matter of fact. So recent college graduates employed
by the software developer HCl Technologies were actually right across
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from Saddles the Seattle's Boeing field. So there's a whole
place filled with them who were working on this technology
nine dollars an hour and they were subcontracted, and Cenator
Schmidt pointed out a lot of these what happens is
that to get around the H one B visa program,
these people hire subcontractors that employ the individuals. So the
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actual business it's elf like Boeing doesn't can skirt around
a H one B VISA program by hiring subcontractors who
have H one B visas like one would have playing cards.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
It's all the same.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
And so if that they were supposed to be developing
and testing the software and wound up boning the whole thing,
and the rest is history. That's just the bottom line,
and there are there's anecdotal evidence all over the place
about that. Now. I understand that American companies and American
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workers can make mistakes too, but if we're going to
get into that debate over whether or not American workers
are less intelligent than Indian workers, it's absolutely not true.
And many American kids growing up aren't even given a
fighting chance to compete with those workers. And then you
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have to go back to the original thing, the original reality,
and that as they're just cheaper. I mean, nobody's kidding
anybody over this whole thing. So President Trump needs to
basically take back the leadership on this role. The vacan
elon Musk need to kind of take their place on this.
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And we voted for Donald Trump, or some of us
did for a reason, and that's because he's Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
We knew his stance on the H one B VISA program.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
And we do not appreciate being called racists or xenophobes
or anything else.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
By people we thought too hard for this.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
We're not We don't want to go back to being
called names by people who actually work for the guy
that we elected. That's not going to go over very
well in no matter how you slice it. So an
intelligent conversation is warranted. Speaking of airplanes, and this is
something I think that we need to talk about here
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in the US, because you know that South Korean airliner
two hundred and seventy something, people dying, and there is
evidence that it might have been a bird strike as
the plane was coming in and making its approach.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Apparently a bird might have struck.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
The engine area there and maybe disrupted the hydraulics, so
the airplane did not have the landing gear, couldn't come down,
and they were so distracted they were speeding into the
landing and then wound up not able to stop, and
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these poor people all died, with the exception of a
couple who survived in the back of the plane. And
there's some discussion about technology that will disperse birds. There
are in London, for instance, a Heathrow airport, they will
actually use technology to disperse birds around landing strips and
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at airport runways, and sometimes airports here in the US
will use dogs, or they'll blare music or do something.
But it's a big deal, and I'm sure something like
that is going to be revisited as a discussion because
you just I mean, obviously, accidents do happen, Unfortunate things
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do happen. There's only so much you can manage, as
nature and the common world unite. But some things can
be avoided if you take the right steps. And apparently
this has been a problem at this particular airport for
a long time because they haven't necessarily remedied the whole situation.
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So maybe we can get somebody working on that pronto.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
This is Your Morning Show with Michael Deltona.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Among so many of the serious subjects that we are
dealing with these days, there is some room for a
level of frivolity. Sometimes that frivolity does not end up well.
I'll give you a couple of examples. One is this guy,
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Magnus Carlson. He is the reigning World Rapid and Blitz Champion.
This is a chess deal, and I defy you. You
can find rapid and blitz and search for it all
you want, and they're never going to tell you really
to what it was. But as long as you hear
the word chess, then you're fairly certain that you're kind
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of on the right path. And this guy, Magnus Carlson
is the reigning world champions. He's at this championship held
in New York City, and he's from Norway, and he
is a chess icon and chess I do all play
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chess because I love to play chess. And I'm not
particularly intelligent mathematically or even for that matter, strategically, but
I'm really not a bad chess player. I don't know
how that part of my brain is working so well,
but I'm a pretty good chess player, and I tend
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to be. I triend to play the Queen rather assertively,
and some could even say aggressively, because I wander that
queen out there and then take her back in. But
I love her and I take full advantage of the
power of the queen. Sometimes I get trapped and caught,
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but other times I've so mesmerized and hypnotized my opponent
because they're like, why would you do that?
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Nobody ever does that.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
It's like, well, there you go, that's because the queen's
awesome anyway. So Magnus Carlson, this must be a millennial thing.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
But on the one hand, I kind of thuck. I
think I like the guy for taking his stance that
he's taking. But the other hand, you know, I'm also
rules are rules, and they do it for a reason.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
When have you.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
So they have a dress code at the place that
is organizing this this chess championship, and you can't wear jeans.
So he was find two hundred bucks for wearing jeans
in round eight and then they disqualified him because he
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refused to comply with the dress code. And it's interesting
because on the one hand, it's like, well, why do
you have why can't you wear jeans? But you know,
on the other hand, we get it right, we're old
school in that way. It's not beyond the realm of
comprehension that you would have those kinds of rules.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
There are certain you know, clubs and places and.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Certain where where they just say no, you can't, you
can't wear jeans, and you and you absolutely understand that.
So anyway, he decides he's going to take the stance
that he's going to refuse to change his clothes. Some
guy wore tennis shoes or something, which is also against
the rules. He changed his into regular shoes and they
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let him continue to play. He's and this is kind
of I think this is a millennial thing, and nothing
against millennials, but he's, you know, thirty something, and I
think it's a thing. And maybe you can tell me
with the talkback feature there on the iHeartRadio app. Anyway,
I do kind of like his position on this to
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a certain degree because, and I'll relate it to you here.
He said, I said I'd changed tomorrow, but they said
I had to change now, and it became a matter
of principle for me, honestly, And this is where I
kind of empathize with him. I'm too old at this
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point to care too much. If this is what they
want to do, I'll probably set off to somewhere where
the weather is a bit nicer. So on the one
hand he comes across as kind of a spoiled dude,
you know, But on the other hand, he's like, all right,
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Get into a battle over this.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
And by the way, if you go to the organization's website,
it's five fide, you'll notice, because I did, because Heaven knows,
I don't have anything to do, right, No, I go
to a website just to see what's up, and he's
all over the website like he's still being promoted, his
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pictures up there, his names all over the thing.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
So these people.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Were benefiting from his appearance there, and so I think
he just figured, well, you know, I'm making this place.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
I you know, I'm the star here.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
So I'm going to test them and see whether or
not they're gonna go for it. And they wound up
booting him, but not without deciding they're going to keep
him up on the website so that people still think
he's in the tournament anyway, just so you know, just
in case you're worrying about things at work or around
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the world or World War three or whatever else. Just
know that there were people that had the luxury of
spending time on this kind of stuff. To wear genes
or to not wear genes stand on your principle of
wearing jeans, regardless of the rules. But I do like,
I do like his comment that I'm too old for
this stuff and I'll just go someplace where there's a beach.
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I'm like, I got you, buddy, I got you on
that absolutely. And this one, the story doesn't really end
very positively, and I'm sorry about that.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
But I didn't know this was a thing.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
But apparently in Oregon, and these two guys from Oregon,
there's a Washington State wilderness area where people are convinced
that Bigfoot is hanging around in there. So this fifty
nine year old guy and a thirty seven year old
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guy were reported missing on Christmas morning a family member
and basically, these two guys were going out and looking
for Bigfoot. They were that convinced that Bigfoot was there,
and they're not the only ones, and of course, just
the end of the story is they're dead. But I
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just I didn't want to bum me out. I'm just
saying that, yes, there are still things going on, and
they apparently weren't too far off in their thinking about
all this, because apparently back in the sixties there were
so many reported sightings of bigfoot in this Schimania County, Washington,
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and also they were looking at Yanni or whatever they
called him, and the county commissioners passed an ordinance to
protect bigfoot seekers from you know, keep them from possibly
shooting like an elk hunter or whatever else, because if
some guy walks around he happens to have certain look
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or whatever, you don't want them to think he's bigfoot
and shoot him, because that's of course what Americans do
is instead of you know, trapping bigfoot, they just kill
him like they do like giant squid and that kind
of thing. That's why Martians don't land here because they
know what we'll do with him, and because that's apparently
what happens when something exotic is found. It's killed and
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then put on a hook and then photographed. And that's
just not an inviting type of tone.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
The law was.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Originally passed in nineteen sixty nine and basically saying that
you're going to get a year of jail time or
one thousand dollars fine if you are wandering around in
this area and trespassing. Basically, it's that serious.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
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This is your Morning Show with Michael del jorn O
Jamie Alman here really happen to be filling in some
of you going back to work, if only for a
few hours, right, because you took all week off whatever,
and now you're kind of ready to go back. Just
to kind of give a nod to the time clock,
so to speak. Speaking of time clocks, we're going to
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get into the H one B visa debate, and it's
a really good one to have. The way it is
being processed is totally and completely unnecessary. We're in a situation,
I think where you know, Elon Musk over the weekend
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tweets out this profane and ridiculous statement about people who
are concerned about the expansion of the H one B
visa program and insinuates that people who are against the
program or raising questions about it are racists, and it
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just is not a good look.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
And it is also.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Then paving the way for a more serious question about
whether or not President Trump has to rain a guy
like this in. And President Trump winds up then kind
of reiterating, although he doesn't address it, the importance of
the H one B program, which.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Isn't the question.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
So it was a little frustrating over the weekend if
you are someone who was looking forward to the.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Brand New Day.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Twenty twenty five and the make America Great Again movement,
when you've got a couple of guys Vivek and Elon
out there gunslinging and calling people racist because they have
legitimate concerns about the H one B visa program that
Trump had in twenty twenty. So it's and again, I
(02:24):
was so glad when Elon Musk he opined about the
budget situation and everything else. He's not an elected officially,
he shouldn't be doing that. I'd say, well, that's really
actually not a reason. He absolutely should be speaking about it.
I'm glad he was. And this isn't about freedom of speech.
It's about whether or not you really want to get
(02:47):
into something that is unnecessarily alienating everybody one way or
the other. And you see these fights on Facebook, You've
probably seen him on Twitter or x and debates all
around about the H one B program and Elon Musk,
and at some point, at this point, I'm gonna be
(03:09):
honest with you. I'm just gonna be absolutely honest with you.
I didn't vote for Elon Musk. So that's just where
it's at right now. I didn't vote for him, and
so I wanted to speak. I want him to be formidable.
He is obviously a big part of the Trump administration,
(03:30):
but I didn't vote for him, and so I voted
for Donald Trump and I did. And that's where I'm
kind of drawing the line in my the likability factor
of Elon Musk. I'm like, dude, I like you, but
I would like you to take your place in the
scheme of things, if you don't mind, and especially on
(03:53):
a really big issue like this, not create problems and
put your boss in a bad position, because that's actually
one of the worst things you could do do normally.
And you guys know this, and all you people know
this in your daily lives. Is when you suddenly put
(04:14):
your boss in an uncomfortable situation publicly, it doesn't usually
work out really super well for you. But of course
President Trump has no choice at this point. He's not
going to fire Elon Musk or do any of that.
So Musk is taking full advantage of that, which bothers me.
And if you want to just go back to the
basics on the H one B visa program, I think
(04:36):
we all can agree that it has legitimate purposes, has
in all likelihood in many ways, and you could probably
list them. Benefited our country, benefited our industry, particularly the
tech industry. I don't think that the value of the
(04:57):
H one B VISA program by itself is in dispute here.
The disputed part is unfortunately coming from the opinions of
Vivak and Musk, and that is that if you're cautious about.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Expanding the program, you're a racist.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
And the reason why we need to expand the program
is because American workers are stupid. Those two things do
not work in Trump world, they do not work in magaworld,
and they actually don't work anywhere, and they're provably false.
So the racism part is ridiculous and that's just that's
(05:40):
the game of amateurs, is calling people racist and doing
that kind of thing. But to the reality about the
intelligence of the American worker, you have to understand that
a government that funds educational institutions who then turn around,
(06:02):
after being taxpayer funded, slot out thirty percent of their
tech school slots to Chinese and Indian foreigners. That's not
a legitimate use of taxpayer dollars. And that's not legitimate
in any way, shape or form. So if taxpayers are
(06:24):
funding these institutions that are locking out thirty percent of
Americans from even having a chance of getting a tech education,
that's something that needs to change. That has to change.
That is not legit. That's not cool. The elementary and
(06:44):
secondary education Science and Technology curriculum STEM is being artificially
suppressed by our Department of Education. You guys realize you
remember back in the day, like eight years ago, you were, hey,
whatever happened to STEM education? Yeah, just came and went,
didn't it. It used to be like a big deal
(07:06):
in all the and now all these private entities are
having to kind of push it forward. I know a
couple of entities like that because the public schools there's
taxpayer funded school systems are not supporting it that they're
they're suppressing it. And I think it's it's a cultural
(07:26):
and political type of conspiracy to kind of keep the
American worker down in a certain way and uneducated in
a certain way, because industry and others pursue it through
their politicians who they're funding, who are more than happy
to go ahead and get them the cheap labor that
(07:47):
they really want out of this. And that's really the problem.
The H one bv VISA program is violated routinely by
many organizations who are not abiding by the law which
says you have to prove that this job is not
wanted or being pursued by an American worker before you
(08:09):
get an H one B visa. That doesn't happen anymore
they would abide by that. We've got temp agencies who
have stacks in H one B visas who are just
simply shuttling people in.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
We'll have more on this on the other side of.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
This is Your Morning Show with Michael Deltrono.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I gotta tell you, packers fans are some of the
nicest people. I was at a place yesterday and a
bunch of people watching the Packers.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Game, and they lost a brutal game.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
But you know Packers fans when they lose, well, maybe
you know other Packers fans that are more Forloren or
rougher like Bills fans might be, but Packers fans when
they lose, they just couldn't know. Well, better luck next time.
It must be the Wisconsin thing. I have no idea
when they lost that game twenty seven to twenty five,
(09:08):
and probably should have won the game, and I was
watching the Commanders beat the Falcons, and speaking of technological
wizardry and technological acumen, I have none of that.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
And I watched the game in.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Spanish solely because I could not operate the remotes.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
There are two of them, and I have two teenage
daughters at home who I could have asked, but that
would have required me to go upstairs and knock on
doors and do all this kind of stuff. And maybe
it was also not only lack of intelligence but also
a innate, built in laziness that just made me just
(09:57):
sit there because actually I got I finally got the
Spanish version of the game, and then I was actually
intrigued by it because it was kind of fun to
watch and fun to hear there's guys rule there are
is and get excited. It was almost like watching soccer
to a certain degree, and you can kind of tell
what was going on. And since Spanish is really not
(10:20):
too hard to understand necessarily, I took seven years of it,
but I still can't speak it, but I can read
and understand it when you're talking, and so to me
that was a little bit easier.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
But I just sat there and I was like, oh,
this is interesting.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
It's kind of like what you all do when you're
clicking around aimlessly and you stop by the Hallmark channel
and there you are in deep in a Hallmark Christmas
movie or something.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Because I did that one time with Murder, she wrote.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I love Murder, she wrote, And one time I just
was clicking around when actually it was easier to operate
the remote because there was an easier system on the TV.
Landed on a murder, she wrote, episode, and stayed up
till like two in the morning watching one murder, she
wrote after another. I don't know what channel this was,
and I don't know how it happened, but it was
(11:15):
like it was like murder. She wrote, Palooza for some reason,
and that's all there was. I couldn't stop, couldn't stop
watching it. Anyway, back to the technological discussion the H
one B visa program. And here's Eric Schmid. He's from Missouri,
he's a senator. He was on Fox News Sunday and
(11:36):
talked to I mean, and this is where we're supposed
to have serious discussions. I don't believe that Elon Musk
and Vivek Ramaswami are engaging in serious intellectual discussions about
an issue that is really super important to Americans. And
the America First agenda is super important to people who
(11:59):
voted for Donald and so people who promote the America
Second agenda don't come across very well. Regardless of whether
I have they have good points, because we know the
H one B program is a decent program, has been
used effectively whatever. But center Schmidt points out it's been
(12:19):
abused problems.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
Well, I think there's been a lot of abuse. And
that's what's driving Shannon a lot of this discussion right
now is the abuse that's happened with this where you
see qualified Americans being denied a lot of these jobs
because a company can go out and hire cheaper labor
from a foreign country, right, That is really the abuse.
And so the reforms that President Trump put forward in
twenty twenty, which by the way, we're canceled by Joe Biden,
(12:43):
canceled by Joe Biden, had to do with right now,
it's a lottery. There's really no merit to this. It's
just a lottery.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
So you see.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Companies trying to gain the system it companies sometimes putting
thirty thousand applications in hoping to get ten thousand from
a random lottery.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
That is a system.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
I think that needs to be reform. President Trump's to
about that. And then also undercutting wages by bringing in somebody,
you know under a loophole, for example, you can't have
it be the same employer, but it's a consulting firm.
So those are the kinds of things, and I think
the starting point that President Trump articulated when he wanted
to reform this very broken system back in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
And do you notice how Senator Schmid is kind of
subtly reminding even President Trump that there was a time
when there was a serious discussion about this program and
the abuses of it.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
There was a time when you stood up.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Against the powers it be who were abusing the American worker,
the American system, undercutting wages, and bastardizing a program that
was legitimately originated but now is illegitimately used.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
And you don't want.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
To go ahead and hand this over to a couple
of people who are calling Americans racist and dumb and
uneducated because they don't understand the system and are part
of it. That doesn't make any sense. That is you
handing over a really super crucial important issue to individuals
(14:23):
who don't appear to have the appreciation for intellectual discussion
about this that I think is required. And President Trump
is the bigger man here. I think Senata Schmidt is
encouraging him to remember when he actually talked about this
(14:47):
issue and he's not a racist. And you just have
to pull back the reins on Musk and Ramaswami, as
good guys as they are, because I really have a
ton of respect for them. At some point you have
to be taking the leadership role on this, and certainly
you don't want your employees running around and calling decent
(15:12):
Americans racists and especially using the F word and all
this kind of stuff when they have legitimate concerns about
the trajectory of the H one B program. You have
to stay with your America First agenda because people voted
for you. They did not vote for Elon Musk and
(15:36):
Vivek Ramaswami. And this is a really big deal. And
the civil war is absolutely unnecessary and can be avoided.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
And I think Senator Schmid did that.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
This is your Morning Show with Michael Deltno.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
If you are the Department of Education, you should not
be suppressing elementary and secondary education and even the higher
education pursuits as it relates to STEM, which is the
science technology focus. And so that's what's happening though, because
(16:18):
they're too busy focusing on other things in your public
schools as opposed to STEM education. The people who are
doing well with education are private schools or even entities
clubs and things like that that focus on STEM. But
you'll notice a really intense lack of focus on science
(16:43):
and technology curriculum in public schools. And when I say
public schools, they are public schools, taxpayer supported schools. So
that's not the fault of dumb Americans. That's the fault
of a government that is not utiling the brains of Americans.
And then you also move on to taxpayer funded educational
(17:06):
institutions that automatically give thirty percent of their seats in
the classroom to Chinese and Indian students thirty percent, and
MIT does that, So you have to ask.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
For some accountability on that level.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Now, as to just the relative intelligence of American workers
versus Indian workers, let's say that's completely off base. There's
no factual basis on which to say that. And in fact, anecdotally, yes,
Americans had made mistakes before. But let's just go to
(17:46):
the Boeing seven thirty seven max. And the reason why
the Boeing seven thirty seven max is no more and
why Boeing wound up in tatters is because of glitch
is and problems with the software on the plane. That
software was developed by subcontractors in India, and that software
(18:11):
was developed by nine dollars an hour Indian technicians. And
that's a matter of fact. So recent college graduates employed
by the software developer HCl Technologies were actually right across
(18:31):
from Saddles the Seattle's Boeing field. So there's a whole
place filled with them who were working on this technology
nine dollars an hour and they were subcontracted, and Cenator
Schmidt pointed out a lot of these what happens is
that to get around the H one B visa program,
these people hire subcontractors that employ the individuals. So the
(18:58):
actual business it's elf like Boeing doesn't can skirt around
a H one B VISA program by hiring subcontractors who
have H one B visas like one would have playing cards.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
It's all the same.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
And so if that they were supposed to be developing
and testing the software and wound up boning the whole thing,
and the rest is history. That's just the bottom line,
and there are there's anecdotal evidence all over the place
about that. Now. I understand that American companies and American
(19:38):
workers can make mistakes too, but if we're going to
get into that debate over whether or not American workers
are less intelligent than Indian workers, it's absolutely not true.
And many American kids growing up aren't even given a
fighting chance to compete with those workers. And then you
(20:01):
have to go back to the original thing, the original reality,
and that as they're just cheaper. I mean, nobody's kidding
anybody over this whole thing. So President Trump needs to
basically take back the leadership on this role. The vacan
elon Musk need to kind of take their place on this.
(20:23):
And we voted for Donald Trump, or some of us
did for a reason, and that's because he's Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
We knew his stance on the H one B VISA program.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
And we do not appreciate being called racists or xenophobes
or anything else.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
By people we thought too hard for this.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
We're not We don't want to go back to being
called names by people who actually work for the guy
that we elected. That's not going to go over very
well in no matter how you slice it. So an
intelligent conversation is warranted. Speaking of airplanes, and this is
something I think that we need to talk about here
(21:08):
in the US, because you know that South Korean airliner
two hundred and seventy something, people dying, and there is
evidence that it might have been a bird strike as
the plane was coming in and making its approach.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Apparently a bird might have struck.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
The engine area there and maybe disrupted the hydraulics, so
the airplane did not have the landing gear, couldn't come down,
and they were so distracted they were speeding into the
landing and then wound up not able to stop, and
(21:51):
these poor people all died, with the exception of a
couple who survived in the back of the plane. And
there's some discussion about technology that will disperse birds. There
are in London, for instance, a Heathrow airport, they will
actually use technology to disperse birds around landing strips and
(22:16):
at airport runways, and sometimes airports here in the US
will use dogs, or they'll blare music or do something.
But it's a big deal, and I'm sure something like
that is going to be revisited as a discussion because
you just I mean, obviously, accidents do happen, Unfortunate things
(22:38):
do happen. There's only so much you can manage, as
nature and the common world unite. But some things can
be avoided if you take the right steps. And apparently
this has been a problem at this particular airport for
a long time because they haven't necessarily remedied the whole situation.
(23:00):
So maybe we can get somebody working on that pronto.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
This is Your Morning Show with Michael Deltona.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Among so many of the serious subjects that we are
dealing with these days, there is some room for a
level of frivolity. Sometimes that frivolity does not end up well.
I'll give you a couple of examples. One is this guy,
(23:36):
Magnus Carlson. He is the reigning World Rapid and Blitz Champion.
This is a chess deal, and I defy you. You
can find rapid and blitz and search for it all
you want, and they're never going to tell you really
to what it was. But as long as you hear
the word chess, then you're fairly certain that you're kind
(23:57):
of on the right path. And this guy, Magnus Carlson
is the reigning world champions. He's at this championship held
in New York City, and he's from Norway, and he
is a chess icon and chess I do all play
(24:18):
chess because I love to play chess. And I'm not
particularly intelligent mathematically or even for that matter, strategically, but
I'm really not a bad chess player. I don't know
how that part of my brain is working so well,
but I'm a pretty good chess player, and I tend
(24:40):
to be. I triend to play the Queen rather assertively,
and some could even say aggressively, because I wander that
queen out there and then take her back in. But
I love her and I take full advantage of the
power of the queen. Sometimes I get trapped and caught,
(25:01):
but other times I've so mesmerized and hypnotized my opponent
because they're like, why would you do that?
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Nobody ever does that.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
It's like, well, there you go, that's because the queen's
awesome anyway. So Magnus Carlson, this must be a millennial thing.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
But on the one hand, I kind of thuck. I
think I like the guy for taking his stance that
he's taking. But the other hand, you know, I'm also
rules are rules, and they do it for a reason.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
When have you.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
So they have a dress code at the place that
is organizing this this chess championship, and you can't wear jeans.
So he was find two hundred bucks for wearing jeans
in round eight and then they disqualified him because he
(25:58):
refused to comply with the dress code. And it's interesting
because on the one hand, it's like, well, why do
you have why can't you wear jeans? But you know,
on the other hand, we get it right, we're old
school in that way. It's not beyond the realm of
comprehension that you would have those kinds of rules.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
There are certain you know, clubs and places and.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Certain where where they just say no, you can't, you
can't wear jeans, and you and you absolutely understand that.
So anyway, he decides he's going to take the stance
that he's going to refuse to change his clothes. Some
guy wore tennis shoes or something, which is also against
the rules. He changed his into regular shoes and they
(26:41):
let him continue to play. He's and this is kind
of I think this is a millennial thing, and nothing
against millennials, but he's, you know, thirty something, and I
think it's a thing. And maybe you can tell me
with the talkback feature there on the iHeartRadio app. Anyway,
I do kind of like his position on this to
(27:04):
a certain degree because, and I'll relate it to you here.
He said, I said I'd changed tomorrow, but they said
I had to change now, and it became a matter
of principle for me, honestly, And this is where I
kind of empathize with him. I'm too old at this
(27:24):
point to care too much. If this is what they
want to do, I'll probably set off to somewhere where
the weather is a bit nicer. So on the one
hand he comes across as kind of a spoiled dude,
you know, But on the other hand, he's like, all right,
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Get into a battle over this.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
And by the way, if you go to the organization's website,
it's five fide, you'll notice, because I did, because Heaven knows,
I don't have anything to do, right, No, I go
to a website just to see what's up, and he's
all over the website like he's still being promoted, his
(28:06):
pictures up there, his names all over the thing.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
So these people.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Were benefiting from his appearance there, and so I think
he just figured, well, you know, I'm making this place.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
I you know, I'm the star here.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
So I'm going to test them and see whether or
not they're gonna go for it. And they wound up
booting him, but not without deciding they're going to keep
him up on the website so that people still think
he's in the tournament anyway, just so you know, just
in case you're worrying about things at work or around
(28:43):
the world or World War three or whatever else. Just
know that there were people that had the luxury of
spending time on this kind of stuff. To wear genes
or to not wear genes stand on your principle of
wearing jeans, regardless of the rules. But I do like,
I do like his comment that I'm too old for
this stuff and I'll just go someplace where there's a beach.
(29:06):
I'm like, I got you, buddy, I got you on
that absolutely. And this one, the story doesn't really end
very positively, and I'm sorry about that.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
But I didn't know this was a thing.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
But apparently in Oregon, and these two guys from Oregon,
there's a Washington State wilderness area where people are convinced
that Bigfoot is hanging around in there. So this fifty
nine year old guy and a thirty seven year old
(29:39):
guy were reported missing on Christmas morning a family member
and basically, these two guys were going out and looking
for Bigfoot. They were that convinced that Bigfoot was there,
and they're not the only ones, and of course, just
the end of the story is they're dead. But I
(29:59):
just I didn't want to bum me out. I'm just
saying that, yes, there are still things going on, and
they apparently weren't too far off in their thinking about
all this, because apparently back in the sixties there were
so many reported sightings of bigfoot in this Schimania County, Washington,
(30:22):
and also they were looking at Yanni or whatever they
called him, and the county commissioners passed an ordinance to
protect bigfoot seekers from you know, keep them from possibly
shooting like an elk hunter or whatever else, because if
some guy walks around he happens to have certain look
(30:44):
or whatever, you don't want them to think he's bigfoot
and shoot him, because that's of course what Americans do
is instead of you know, trapping bigfoot, they just kill
him like they do like giant squid and that kind
of thing. That's why Martians don't land here because they
know what we'll do with him, and because that's apparently
what happens when something exotic is found. It's killed and
(31:06):
then put on a hook and then photographed. And that's
just not an inviting type of tone.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
The law was.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Originally passed in nineteen sixty nine and basically saying that
you're going to get a year of jail time or
one thousand dollars fine if you are wandering around in
this area and trespassing. Basically, it's that serious.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
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