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Speaker 1 (00:30):
This is your Morning Show with Michael O'Dell John. I
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Jeffrey Lyons has the controls. DZ's about to join us
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the show's named after you, so we can't have it
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Speaker 3 (01:03):
Hi, Michael, my name is Beverly and I live in Nashville,
spend the winters in Florida. I'm listening to your morning
show today on my radio app, and I just loved
your commentation that you just finished about your daughters and
how important the time spent with him right before bed period.
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My daughter's two boys are fourteen and seventeen, and every evening.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
And now we'll never know. That's a reminder, by the way,
that when you use your iHeartRadio app, you have thirty
seconds seconds apparently, and then you are I'll never know
the story about your sons and daughters. But I go
back and give the end of the story. That's a
new feature. I'm a Diza's here. I'm thinking about doing
just interrupting the broadcast for a truthful moment as they
pop up. And so that one was our old air
(01:54):
conditioning guy, Chad had this audio from when my girls
were like four or five years old, to me and
Gwen on the air telling the story about how we
seize that time right before bed to talk talk about life,
talk about God, talk about you know, and my daughter
Anna must have opened up about how she wants to
marry somebody like me, only with muscles and a tattoo,
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which she was describing Chad, who she once wrote a
love note to and put in his air conditioning service
truck when she was like four. But it was just
a great reminder that you know, if you spend that
if you prioritize and spend that time. Because to this
day now at twenty, they all come in our room
at night, and because we did that in their room
when they were kids, now they come to it in
our room with us, and it's just you never know,
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isn't it funny how you just never know if you're
parenting right. You just love unconditionally. Hope you did good
and it just didn't see how it turns out. But
you got to prioritize them. And that's our greatest joy
now is them all coming into the room at night
and we turned the TV off and we have great conversations.
And I think part of that was because we did
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that with them when they were little. So it was
just a little truthful moment for those with young kids.
First of all, if you don't think you're doing a
good job, you never know. We all feel that way.
Just love them. You can never go wrong loving them
and prioritizing them and finding time for them, all right,
So who's going to be the speaker? That's a good question.
Tight squeeze, Well, Fox has the big headline up battle
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for the cavil Is this hyper? Is it really this tight?
We don't know. We truly don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
We don't know, And chances are very good that it's
hype because we're now in the pragmatic zone.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Michael, We're now in the work zone.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
It's now time for people who actually know what a
hard heat is and how a tool belt works in
regards to the way that our civil government operates to
get to work. And they are at work today. They'll
elect a speaker on Monday, they'll approve the electoral college.
By the time we get to the twentieth, they'll already
be in full swing. And so it's business time. And
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so what usually happens is the met goes away and
covers football games and retail stories. Everybody else just goes
away back to living their life, and then two years
from now the politicians show back up and explain to
us why they need to be reelected. And since we
haven't been paying any attention, we have no grid by
which to judge their claims.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
We did a long We did a long story this morning,
and it boiled down to the lesson of we don't
fail them like because we don't know what to do.
We usually fail because we don't do what we know.
So here's James Carvell, who coined the phrase it's the
economy stupid, admitting he was wrong about Kamala Harris. I
thought she would win in the end she didn't. And
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in the end it just goes to prove it's the
economy stupid. And I'm thinking, here's the guy that coined
the phrase. But they get their eyes off of all
of this and on the narratives to the point where
they believe them that they you know. So I'm following
this story and I'm seeing one and I think it's
a pretty compelling case to make. There's nobody else looming.
(05:01):
There isn't like another choice out there. And Donald Trump
didn't lose, he won, so there's no need for the
Trump is far right grand standards. I mean, everything's in line. Yeah,
it's going to be tight. They've got one no for sure,
and they don't have much margin for error. But I
don't see them having a problem getting the vote through today.
And that's just keeping my eyes on the ball rather
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than the narrative or the hype. And so to me,
unless you want to gluy yourself right before you're marching
into leadership, I just can't fathom even Republicans could be
this stupid.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Yeah, and if there's going to be a change, fine,
there's going to be a change. Who cares. It's time
to get down to business. We don't have time to
mess around with this stuff because now the people there's
been a significant change, and it's go time. It is
work time, and so you have to figure out somebody's
got to hold that gabble, somebody's got to run the trains.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
This guy's doing it. We got the own reason. And
if you change him, fine, it's going to be the
next guy or the next gap.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Just move on with it, and whoever it is, get
it done today, right, Just get it done or done
this weekend.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
I guess you would have the rest of that weekend
to do it one more job. But what's really important
now is, and I hope this is the truth. Everywhere.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
People hear you, everywhere, people hear us in the public square, everywhere.
People here who care, And I know Michael Left of
this election people care more than they've ever heard. Is
that we can't go to sleep now. We have to
remember who it was we voted for, and we have
to stay in touch with that people. Number one, how
do you stay in touch and pray for him?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Pray for them?
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Number two, you don't have to stalk them, you don't
have to hound them. You don't have to start a
legislative office in your kitchen table. You just need to
stay paying attention to the issues that are happening, and
every now and then reach out with a text, with
a phone call and let them know you are there.
That changes the climate completely. So this may take sixty
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seconds to do, but it's worth doing. My mom had
a friend. Now I'm a teenager, so I'm into I'm
into dating. It's whatever now or then I'm confused, what
do you mean? No, this is when I was a kid,
so don't be a wise guy.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
So I mean, I'm thinking I'm either in football season,
basketball season, baseball season, you know, and dating, So I'm
not thinking about anything really other than that. And my
mom had this one friend and it was the only
friend or the only person in my life I had
ever been exposed to that was like into politics, and
she would sit at the table I wrote Congress Mentosen
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today and did all this stuff, and it just seems
so boring and so obsessive and overpassionate and weird to me.
And yet I, you know, and now she was one
in a childhood, one in a lifetime, and she should
have been the norm. How much do members of Congress
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to this day make decisions or gauge things with confidence
and courage based on feedback? How important is it still today?
Speaker 4 (08:01):
We've been doing this for an entire lifetime, forty five
years in service at the American Policy Rounds Table. It
doesn't matter when we go to Capitol Hill or what
state legislature we're working with.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
We find the same thing.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
The people who run the offices for the members, which
basically run the business of the day, watch every single
day who's calling and who's writing. And when they get
ten letters or ten phone calls on a subject, the
first thing they tell their people is find out what
that is and who's behind it, because they know that
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they cannot get out of touch completely. The member is
now busy dealing with the colleagues on the floor and
dealing with the lobbyists at the events and all the
blah blah blah dealing with the media. The chiefs of
staff have to keep this office grounded, and that's who
you're talking to, and that's who the member turns back
to at the end of the day and says, what's
going on out there.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
So we have all this noise chatter, whether it's X
formally Twitter, where it's Fox, CNN, MSNBC. We just saw
an entire presidential race misgauge this. They were focused on
their own narrative echoing back at them through legacy media
that was dead and they didn't realize it yet. And
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Donald Trump wins the election digitally and on podcasts and
so on. So are you suggesting that they're not just
taking their cues from Twitter and what's viral? That a
good old fashioned text call is far more valuable. This
is such a secret it ought to be banned from radio.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
I'm telling you, this is the reality.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
You were talking about. Carville.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Carvill defines reality for the Democrats. Francis Schaeffer used to
say this, we're.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
All mugged by reality.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
It's not the economy stupid, it's reality. Well, ignorance is
blistol consequence arrives. That's the we haven't changed reality. And
the reality of elected office is this. If one hundred
people in a state legislative office, if one hundred and
fifty people in the congressional office continually politely engage with
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that office on issues they care about, those people are
noticed big time. It changes the atmosphere and the culture
in that office. You have far more power than we have,
farmer harder than we realize. So how many of us
like you know?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Because when this happens, I can tell you that the
twenty three year old in New York City, he's standing
there stalking. The train is coming. At the last minute.
He just pushes this guy in front of the train
and people are just standing around. Or worse, we see
this crime after crime after crime. They're just filming rather
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than doing anything. We could be guilty of that. Right
we're sitting here having a conversation about who the next
speaker is going to be. And did it dawn on
any of us to call a representative today? I mean
so obvious that conservatives are great for this.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
We are super great at getting exercised in major elections,
and then for four years this hearing and they go
on and do whatever it is they want to do.
You know when you've got someone who you know is
new in the house, and we went up a couple
of years ago.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
By twenty ten, there was a big sweep in the house.
We went up.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
When we interviewed a dozen of the brand new members.
You can't believe. It's like going to a donut shop.
It is so organic when it first gets started. And
if they could just stay in that mode, you'd be
amazed how the climate would change.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
It's your morning show with Michael del Choano.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Hey, I just wanted to give a reminder to everybody
in the Saint Louis area. If you don't own one,
you might want to pick up a small propane heater.
You're gonna need heat if the power goes out. Good
luck everybody, and stay safe and stay warm.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah, that's all cuddle. We do have a blast of
winter weather that is going to be chilling most of
the country. Here in Middle Tennessee, we're going to be
in the upper thirties and lows in the twenties. Even
colder in other areas, especially areas that aren't used to
so take your precautions. The house well Fox is selling
it as the battle for the gavel, the House expected
(12:07):
to vote on a new speaker, and we're joined by
David Sanati real quickly on that. So far, all indications
are the biggest mistakes people make, especially after a very
partisan battle. The country's very divided, has a very divided
referendum type election. Is they want to continue to campaign
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or continue to fight. No, the fight is over, it
is finished. You won lead, Now do now? They All
indications are that's what Donald Trump is laser focused on doing.
And I think the members of the House will prove
that today. This appears to me at this point to
be all hype. I think Mike Johnson will secure the gabble.
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But that's one of the big stories. And then you
know the links between New Orleans and the Vegas attacks.
You got the the the chief of police in New
Orleans who's introduced seeing everybody before the Sugar Bowl to
these barriers that they have put in place to give
you confidence, make you feel safer. There's the very barriers
they had and took down. Then you got this woman
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in yoga pants in Texas, a no name reporter going
through the home of the New Orleans attacker. And you're
wondering as anybody preserving that as a crime scene. I mean,
there's a lot of crazy stuff. But of all of
the crazy stuff that they presented itself before coming on
the air, was this James Carvell story. We both went,
(13:30):
we both went to LSU. This guy was the mind
behind the Clinton campaign. He's a brilliant political strategist for
the Democrats, and here he is in an op ed piece,
finally admitting he was wrong about Kamala Harris and that
the bottom line is as it always turns out to be,
it's the economy stupid. When that's the very phrase he coined,
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but he took his eye off that in predicting this.
I guess that's a very simplistically a lesson in we
don't fail because we don't know to do we feel
because we don't do what we know. He's certainly guilty
of that, but I still don't think he's put his
finger on the why they lost yet.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Excellent point, Michael em When he says it's the economy stupid,
we have to understand that's code and it doesn't mean
what it sounds like it means to most people. When
he says it's the economy stupid. What he's calling his
colleagues to do is to find a way to rally
more class envy and to rally more jealousy, and to
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use government and even greater ways to win people over
to the Democrat side by promising them benefits that will
make them equal with others.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Which is what broke the economy to begin with.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Economy to start with. So their definition of reality hasn't changed.
He's just going back to a common theme that makes
him comfortable, that makes him relevant and probably gets him paid.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
But what's what's laughable about it is that somewhere along
I used a poker analogy which I don't play poker
and I don't gamble because I choose not to. But
you know, that's an example of somebody playing their hand
rather than playing the other people. Any great poker player
will tell you if they get their mind in their hand,
that's when they're ready. That's when they end up getting
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beat bad. Keep your eye on the pone. You're playing
the opponent, not the cards. This is a guy that
heard the same narrative they create echoed back at them,
and believe that over all the indicators that were pointing
to us an easy Donald Trump victory and a significant
one which I nailed at three hundred and twelve electoral votes.
I know you hate when I predict, but I think
there's a lesson in that that they still don't realize
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that they're victims of and they're going to continue it. Well,
they don't see because they don't want to see. What
Carvel misses is.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
The entire editorial piece could have been written in one word,
the words trust, right, that's what they are missing.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Speak that speaking of that, end on this note, not
this segment. We're going to stay one more segment if
you can. I want to end this segment on this note.
Somebody had written me personally about what a tough year
twenty twenty four was can to twenty twenty three, and
how much they've suffered, and then it ended with hopefully
our man fixes that, and I said he will, and
you're not alone. A lot of people have been suffering.
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But keep your trust in God, not Trump. It's God.
Although'll be thankful that God gave us Trump, but let's
make sure we get our trust in the right place
in God. I do trust and Trump. I'm hopeful.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Hi, I am Actress Lie Savarga and My morning show
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Speaker 1 (16:36):
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Speaker 4 (16:54):
Is the idea that there is no one who you
can count on the government.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
That's not America. No.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
In America, we believe in God. We trust because we
believe he has a plan for each of our lives.
It's written in the very DNA of our country and
the Declaration of Independence. And that makes us different.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Now.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
It doesn't mean that we're perfect, Good Lord. We stumble,
fail as miserably as anybody else. But the difference is
we all know that someday we'll stand accountable for what
we do, and we don't stand accountable.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
One is a failure of execution that is home andary.
The other is a failure of intent that is solidarity
and every day. So we had this conversation yesterday. I
would encourage people to go back to the podcast, and
Jeffrey is starting to do segments at a time too.
If you don't want to listen to a whole hour,
and you can just look up yesterday's segment with David.
But we talked about this, and we're and we're seeing
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this time and time again, and we've and this this
is foundational and we have to get that focus right
or else right.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Well, it's it's critical to the name sure of our history.
And some people are saying you skeptical, say, well, you
guys are preaching religion, but well, look here, let me
make it real clear. Go back in history and look
at the people who trusted God as their source and
the people who trusted government. Just look at their lives,
look at the evidence of the record. Look at our
nation when we believed in personal responsibility and conscience over
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government intervention.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Or what we talked or what we talked about yesterday,
which was who do you think started hospitals? The church?
Who do you think started universities? The church? Insurance? The church?
So but we've advocated that for government. It's almost as
if the church has ceased being what it was called
to be and is needed to occupy and be, and
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allowed government to grow into that and then sell itself
as that falsehole in this falseity.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Hotful because your your word is correct the church, but
it's misunderstood in today America was founded.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
A toko spoke about this at length.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
By independent agencies have driven the progress of America, not
even denominations. Sure, no, it's not the places in the buildings.
It's the people who come out of those buildings and
put their.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Faith in action. And for those that are skeptical, I
always say the same thing.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Number one, if you want God out of our government,
find just here's a pen. Rewrite the Declaration of Independence
for us. Go ahead, good luck finding a better way.
And secondly, if you think this is foolishness, I dare
you to try him. I dare you to try to
say the simple prayer. God, if you're real, show me.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Well. I don't have to tell you how he did
about a year and a half ago. And here we
sit this morning on the very platform that he created
out of nowhere at a time where it was impossible.
All right, So headline and this is a broadcasting publication
inside radio. Why Christian Radio keeps growing subtitle. People are
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hungry for hope and encouragement. I didn't let you pray
read it on purpose. I didn't tell you what the
headline was going to be on purpose. But I think
of how hard you and I worked. We said, look,
I'm not sure if talk readers becoming a part of
the problem now let alone ceased being the solution. But
it's time talk radio relook at itself and we return
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this to a conversation that we stop pontificating and stop
loving ourselves as hosts, and make it about the audience
and not insult them, and trust them that they can
figure this stuff out, not tell them how to think,
but give them things to think about. Let them have
their own journey of discovery. Because ninety nine times out
of one hundred, the past election just proved it. The
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American people are not stupid. They're not dumber than the
people on television or on radio. They get it, and
they get it very well in a very busy life,
very fast. But that hope and encouragement, that's what's been
lost in America. That's what this US versus them has killed.
Obviously we can't unite. Obviously we can't ever solve any
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because we're too busy fighting about everything. But I mean
there is that loss of it. I mean life is tough.
Who wants to get beat up everywhere you look on
television or on the radio. Well, I hope we're bringing
that hope and encouragement. I hope it's not just Christian radio.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Well, and I think, Michael, that this is predicated upon
an understanding of a single word, and that words respect.
When we see as the Declaration teaches us that everyone
is created equal by God and given certain untouchable, inalienable rights,
including the pursuit of happiness, which means the power of
industry and progress in your life. And we combine that
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with the Psalm of the twenty third Psalm, which was
so familiar to the front founding generation, that God is
our source. Then the predicat of every single connection is respect.
It's not I'm smarter than you, I know something you
don't know. I got something you don't have.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Turned on the radio, you'll hear that endlessly.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
And that's what talk radio is, and that's what that's
what and cable news is just talk radio with make
up and hair. It's it doesn't make sense to treat
one another this way, and when the predicative communication is
respect built on self evident truth, everything changes.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Well, they don't have ratings anymore, they don't even have commercials.
Everything's a dysfunction of some kind or a medical device.
It's dead. It hasn't worked. Do you sense like I do?
And you know me, I'm a realist. It sometimes perceived
as a pessimist. This is as simple as the old
expression it's always darkest before dawn, or you got to
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hit rock bottom. There is something afoot, something that has changed.
And it's more than a Trump movement. I think America
is not just realized what doesn't work and how we
got here. I think they're piecing together how to fix it.
And I think that that changes a foot like I've
never seen before. I think there's a spiritual awakening going on.
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I think there's also a general generational transition going on
that that people that are now in the class of
the forties, the young adult class, are suddenly saying, guess what,
all the stuff we were raised on it doesn't work.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
It's broken in pieces at our feet. Maybe some of
the things that our grandparents told us weren't wrong. And
and there's a there's a movement and it is not
orchestrated by a denomination, and is not orchestrated.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
That's what makes it real.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
If you look at the at the manifestation of interest
in the selection in the last six weeks and where
it came from. No one, absolutely no one predicted it
that that that these folks would come forward and bring
with them their arenas of influence. Now, another thing that
Carvill's got wrong is he's doing this whole big thing
of it's all about podcasting now blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
No no, no, no, no, no, no no. The Christian Radio
article is more right.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
It's what this is about is people are going to
move to where they sense respect.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Anybody can describe what was the movie as good as
it gets. Remember they're in the water, uh, Greg kinnear
and Jack Nicholson and Jack Nicholson goes, I'm drowning when
you're describing the water. In other words, anybody can get
on the air, and Obama was great at this. Anybody
could make a long speech about what's broke, how it's broke,
let's move on to how we can fix it. That's
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the tougher conversation. That's where America, I think is ready
to go and with the right leadership to follow.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Well, one of the joys of your morning show is,
first off, we actually hear someone say good morning.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
That's just such a nice term. Well, gee, you do
just about niceties and flowers. Well, if even that's what
it's all it was, that would be nice for a change. Now,
I know, I'd like to start my day with a
good morning and a cup of coffee, not getting yelled at,
I screamed at by somebody.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
All right, number one, number two. There's something about America
we've forgotten. And this is something that Monteschu wrote about
way back before America started. The French philosopher he wrote
about the reality of geography. In other words, human beings
have a reality that anchors itself in so much geography.
That's why we have media markets, because reality for us
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is so many miles.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
This is a big country.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
You cannot govern this country from a central point.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
That's the point.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
You've got to have little armies of faith, is what
Jack Coulson used to call them. People who are doing
the right thing every day where they live and talk.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
To any New Yorker. They'll tell you we're not the
largest city in the world or the largest city in
America where hundreds and hundreds of small neighborhoods. That's the key.
Out of many comes one. I will say this, Narratives
always die, and the cause of death is always consequence.
I think the narratives are dead. I don't know that
America's necessarily identified the truth yet, but they're very very close,
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or they're knocking on the door, and they're searching for
it for a change. And that makes me very optimistic
about twenty twenty five. In fact, it's got me actually
believing we could potentially have a happy new year. I
wish you one and I'll see you throughout the year.
Thank you, Michael, you got it. This is your morning
show with Michael de Touno.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
This is John from Youngstown, Ohio, and I want to
say congratulations on an amazing twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Your show is excellent.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
I can't wait to see what holds ahead in twenty
twenty five and make God's favor, love, protection, and blessing
pursue and overtake all of us in Jesus' name.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Thank you so much. That's from the talkback line at
Michael d at iHeartMedia dot Com. We get this. This
is Jeff from Tulsa, Oklahoma. Started listening to you in
the early days of KFAQ. That would be the beginning
of the century. Then you laughed, and now you're back.
I was going through some old boxes and look what
I found. I think I could get any You think
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I could get anything for this on eBay? He's got
to copy of my book Standing Up for What's Right.
You'll be shocked at what you can get for it
on eBay. Really, people are making more money off of
my book on eBay than I made when I released it. Yeah,
I've seen them for one hundred dollars. I don't know why.
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but that it's one of the best books nobody's ever read,
kind of like one of the best radio shows nobody's
ever heard. Fifty one minutes after the offer, just waking up,
Donald Trump is planning a major rally in Washington, d C.
On the eve of inauguration.
Speaker 7 (27:16):
Mark Mayfield fills this in im hed a heightened terror
threat level. Trump announced he will be hosting what he
called a victory rally. You'll never forget or twenty thousand
of his supporters on January the nineteenth. Trump hasn't held
a rally in DC since January the sixth of twenty
twenty one, which preceded.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Orion at the Capitol Building by his followers.
Speaker 7 (27:34):
Some officials say the short notice for the rally and
the recent attacks in New Orleans and Las Vegas could
resent security problems.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
I'm Mark Nevihew. Well, if you think James Carville is
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The independent senator from Vermont chimed in Thursday on the
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In a statement on X, Sanders said Musk is wrong
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indentured servants from abroad. He added, the cheaper the labor
they hire, the more money the billionaires make. I'm Tammy Trihio.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Lost one of the Osmond's singer, Wayne Osman, dead at
the age of seventy three. Michael Kastner reports.
Speaker 9 (28:42):
His brother Meryl confirmed Osmond died in Salt Lake City
on New Year's Day after suffering a stroke. Wayne was
known for his baritone voice as part of the Osman Brothers.
Merril said his brother's faith, music and love has influenced
many people around the world. Brother Donnie wrote on Instagram,
Wayne Bruce so much light, laughter and love to everyone
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who knew him, especially me. I'm Michael Kastner.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Apple TV Plus free all weekend long. You may want
to check it out. I think they'd like you to,
and then become a subscriber. And we're getting well. The
FBI says no link at this point. Joe Biden, President
of the United States, said no link at this point
between the attack and New Orleans and the explosion in
Las Vegas. Roy O'Neil, our national correspondents correspondent, has been
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on that story all morning long. Good morning, Rory, Good morning, Michael.
Still I mean the links are obvious, right, both were
in the army, both were in North Carolina at the
same fort, but no indication they knew each other. One
appears to be a suicide. One appears to be an
Islamist motivated attack. Other than that, where do we stand?
Speaker 10 (29:48):
Yeah, those really are the two distinctions here. We're not
finding really any motivation for why the man in Colorado
left in that cyber truck to set fire to it
outside the hotel in Las Vegas. And you know whether
or not there were political implications renting a Musk made card,
having it set fire outside of a Trump hotel, it
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doesn't seem to be. But again, still the early part
of this investigation, because it was a decorated Green Beret.
I think he won the Bronze Star five times and
had been apparently his marriage had just fallen apart, and
maybe more related to that, and wasn't really an attack
on the hotel at all.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Right, but rents the truck, fills it with the explosives explosives,
apparently shoots himself, then detonates, his body burned beyond recognition,
but his ID found. I mean, it's a lot of
stuff floating around on the internet. Internet that just looks
very conspiratory, and I think I understand why. It's a
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lot to swallow.
Speaker 10 (30:51):
Yeah, it's a lot, but you know, it's also the
speed of social media and what gets around and out there.
But you know, I think when you step back and say,
there's no real comparison between the two attacks Vegas versus
New Orleans, that doesn't seem to be that same fundamentalist
motivation there. So we'll you know, obviously the FBI said
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still early days, they're still investigating, but right now, other
than the coincidental, that doesn't seem that there's's any conspiracy there.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
So we ended this way in the last time that
we visited this morning, and I want to start kind
of there on this visit, which is okay so in
New Orleans, and I could break it down. I don't
want to do all the talking in this segment. But
you know, they had these barricades, they took them down.
Nobody's answered why then they put them back up to
assure everybody they were safe for the Sugar Bowl to
be played the next day. I think I'd be asking
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questions whose decision was to take these down in the
first place. Maybe they shouldn't have that job. Then you
had the FBI. They couldn't decide if it was a
terrorist attack, terrorists motivated. Then we find his Facebook and
proof that he acted alone and it was certainly Islamist
motivated and radicalized motivated. From the FBI all the way
to homeland security, all the way to things Joe Biden's
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been saying, not a lot of you know, good trust
there that these people were on alert, passionately focused on
what mattered, but maybe they had other political motivations and
just got real sloppy at their job, or the citizens
just can't trust that they're going to protect them. And
now we head into an inauguration. Now Trump wants to
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throw a big rally before the inauguration, Well, the National Championship,
the super Bowl. Is America really ready for this?
Speaker 10 (32:29):
Well, you know, the kind of security that was in
place for the New Year's Eve obviously not the kind
of security that was in place or will be in
place for the super Bowl. So yeah, clearly a failing there.
Were they replacing the ballards and then they weren't. It
didn't appear that they were ever going to be on
the sidewalks anyway, So it seemed like a flawed design.
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Even if you had the brand new ballards in there,
it looks like he still could have just driven around them.
So it seems to be an ineffective stopping mechanism at
that location. And I think all of those different intersections
around Bourbon Street are going to be reassessed as they
as they approached the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
So ory, at some point they need to wake up
every morning like an attack is being plotted and think
like that. I mean, you can't get wise after it happened.
You got to get wise to prevent it from happening.
That needs to be a lesson learned from New Year's Day,
I think.
Speaker 10 (33:23):
And then I think that we all have to learn
that and not just say, well the cops have handled.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
It, right, Yeah, oh absolutely, Like this guy's on Facebook
doing all these videos. Somebody, you know, probably should have
alerted somebody. What was the nine eleven Yeah, the nine
eleven commission conclusion was a failure of imagination, you know,
and in this case, this isn't even imagination. Great reporting
all week. We'll talk next week. Rory O'Neil. Thanks, We're
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all in this together. This is your Morning Show with
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