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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Chris Walker is one of our correspondents. He's also a
GOP consultant and analyst, and he joins us every Monday.
We said it was all hype. There was no battle
for the gabble. The Johnson was going to get it.
This never Trump attitude doesn't exist, and Trump won, so
there'd be no grand standing. He'll get the gabble, and
he did. Here comes the certification today. The presidency is
(00:23):
about to begin with an inauguration, the twenty twenty five possibilities.
I mean, you know, this is the time of the year.
Everybody does year in review. Let's do year in preview,
Chris Walker. Because the first hurdle for the Republicans they
passed with flying colors. They didn't mess anything up with
the gabble on Friday. That was That's a very good
sign and good start, right.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah, absolutely, Good morning, Michael, Happy new Year. God it
be with you again, Holliday.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yes, you know, I think.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
It was a great show. There was a little bit
of an effort from some to kind of, you know,
kind of create a moment. I generally love Thomas Massey.
I feel like in this instance his one vote really
wasn't necessary. I would like to see him kind of
come into the unity side. He made his point, but
on the whole, I mean, I think the Republicans have
kind of learned a little bit of their lessons from
last year, like, hey, we've got a lot of work
(01:14):
to do here to get President Trump in the best position,
but not just President Trump, but the ideas and the
values of the voters who put him in. You know,
there's a reason why he won, and there's a reason
why he you know, had you know, ten million more
votes than he had in his first election twenty sixteen.
And that's the part because people have come towards him
because they're realizing what he's saying is right. And so
it's not a matter of just kind of pushing one
(01:34):
issue or another in Congress, and you know, they're members
of partners that they have that they should do that.
But there's also a country here in a lot of
ways to stay from the four years of Bide administration.
There's a lot of work to do.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Well, I said it this way, You're going to have
a hard time making a case against Johnson as a
supporter of Trump when there was no distance between the
two of them throughout the campaign and all the way
to victories. So that kind of made it very moved
for me. I'm not one to ignore obvious markers. But
the other thing is it's hearing the voice of the
(02:07):
American people. We're sick of all the inside partisan political
bickering and battles. Somebody do something and secure this border.
Somebody do something and secure this out of control cost
of living inflation. Somebody do something to secure that we
can have more of our paycheck in order to afford
what inflation is going to exist for a while. I
(02:30):
not to mention the last time they did it was
a disaster because they didn't have a plan. B It
blew up in their face. I mean, certainly they weren't
going to play the game of how dumb are we
to do that again? And they didn't.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
That's right, And you know, so far we're seeing is positive.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
This is good. I mean, we're going to see the
presidential election, you know, kind of certified today, which is
also good. I think Margine Taller Green's point was very good.
This weekend, Like, hey, people, most people have stayed it's
it's people are kind of realize what time it is,
it's time to get to work. There's a lot of
work to be done. And President Trump, I mean, let's
be honest, has a very short window to get.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
A lot of accomplished here.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
You're going to run into midterm elections here in about
a year and a half. You're going to have, you
know a lot of the political gamesmanships starting to take place.
Democrats aren't going to just go away quietly. So while
we have this unity, while we have this unanimity, it's
we have to get a lot done in a short
amount of time. So putting aside a lot of these
more personal grudge matches is more important for the overall
(03:27):
mission that we need to accomplish here, caspitality to reform
the FBI. You know, Marco Ruby has a lot of
work to clean up from Tony Blincoln at State. You know,
the most can go on and on here, and so
there's like, let's get moving quickly and get these cabinet
appointments confirmed and get the administration running in the right
direction as quickly as possible.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Republican Party consulting, Chris Walker joining us. You know, I
think of Kamala Harris throughout the holiday season, kept showing
up at holiday gatherings, going on and on about how
we can't lose hope. Just because we lost an election
doesn't mean we've lost our way. There was nobody mourning
that lass, so it just it fell flat and dead
(04:04):
and looked pathetic. You got Joe Biden yesterday and I
would have made sounds the day. But he uses the
expression GD, which you know, I grew up Italian. You
use the F words, word, any word. I don't even
notice it. I mean, this is it's like ah to me,
you do GD, and I get offended. Sorry, I'm old school,
so I didn't play the clip. But I mean he's
(04:25):
still trying to sell threat to democracy and that he
is not cognitively impaired, and that he is the wisest
man in the room and we're losing him and democracy.
All those narratives aren't working. I mean, you keep bringing
up the Democrats aren't going to just go away if
they don't get I mean, I played a clip earlier
(04:45):
with Harry Enton, who was on CNN throughout the election,
telling them exactly what was coming. You're losing blackmail votes,
You're losing Hispanic votes, You're losing Asian votes. Yeah, there
is a gender gap, but it's not as big as
you think over abortion, and there's a big one with men.
I mean, he was telling them you're gonna lose, You're
gonna lose, and they wouldn't listen. And now he's telling him,
not only did you lose, not only does the Republican
(05:07):
Party belong to Donald Trump. America's behind Donald Trump. I mean,
how many games can the Democrats play? And it's not
still learning the lesson? You're ignoring the people who are
smarter than you. I mean, I don't think they've got many.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Plays, no, you know, And honestly, I would.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Anticipate the Democrats taking the wrong lesson and moving forward
further left. You're going to see the aoaocs start to,
you know, kind of have an ascendency. You're going to
see this effort to kind of modernize and you know,
kind of make younger. The Bernie Sanders coole. Listen to
the Democrat Party, and you know, I wish them well
(05:48):
in their their you know, efforts there, but I think
that's where they're going to go. But you know, Joe Biden,
I mean, goodness, race as you mentioned Trudeau and in
the preview before we came on, you know, Donald.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Trump literally he had true out to down.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
To mar A Lago, called him the governor of the
state of Canada, and within three weeks he was out.
Donald Trump has more more influenced sway than the for
instanding president.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
So I thought of I thought of you, and I
thought of you when I saw that story because you're
Donald Trump joked you could be the fifty first state. Uh,
and that's still at play. I doubt that's going to happen.
Bottom line. Uh, you know this is unique. Donald Trump
is a wiser Donald Trump for everything he has been through,
He's not going to fall for a faucie. He's not
going to fall for you know, I need of this
(06:31):
other nonsense.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
He gets a second one hundred days. What are the
reasonable expectations of things he can do in this second
term before passing the paton on to this new Trump
revolution of a Republican Party.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Well, I think there's going to be just some some things.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
That happened with the government being windly the business or friend,
theer to business friend, theer to kind of wealth creation
and economic growth, rather than this top down, some down
of approach.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Of the Democrat government regulations.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
So on, go ahead, Yeah, you know what we saw
over the holiday. You know, but Joe Biden single handley,
you know, rejecting the Nip and Steel you know business deal,
which was an absurdity. You know, a pro business type
environment in the White House will be it will be
a positives rather than protectionism. You know, they'll be smart trade,
they'll be smart you know efforts there. You know, there's
(07:26):
a huge deep state that needs means performance. So you know,
Trump's picked a lot of reformers Pam Bondi and has
to tell on others. So I think it's important to
see that. But I would anticipate you know a lot
of businesses being able to kind of get to green
lights and make mergers and you know kind of build
build and create wealth and develop, you know, kind of
new new technologies that really kind of grow. I mean,
(07:46):
we saw if you could put a stamp on the
Biden administrations. The biggest failure, it's spending billions of dollars
of broadband and non connecting a single home for Royal
broadband where you have startlink to available to us today. Right,
there's private sector solutions to all these the bid the
Mistress is incapable of thinking about because they will never
agree with the idea of the prime sector Firth. So
I think Trump coming in and having that type of
(08:09):
mentality and embracing business will be positive for everyone looking
for jobs and trying to look for growth and wealth creation.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I would sum it up this way. I'd let Doge
do their job and cut spending. Finally, someone is going
to address we have a spending problem, not a revenue problem.
I would secure that border. I would deport illegals who
have committed crimes since breaking into the country at least,
and I would cut some of these regulations and secure
these tax cuts. That's about probably all you can get
(08:36):
done in this term, but that would that would spur
a lot of not only prosperity and growth, but security.
And then just his presence I think supplies the piece
through strength necessary for all these bad actors on the
world stage as well.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Very critical. You're exactly running security piece. I mean the border.
The border is number one issue. I mean, look at
look at this, look at what happened on the subway
over the holiday in New York. Like just the crime
running rampant in these communities. Just you go to any
city and you feel it and you see it is
the number one issue. You know Tom Homan, who's going
(09:15):
to be the borders are. It's been a lion on
table news already talking about supports and deportation, and I
think it would be great to see how he starts
that process here in a couple of days
Chris Walker is one of our correspondents. He's also a
GOP consultant and analyst, and he joins us every Monday.
We said it was all hype. There was no battle
for the gabble. The Johnson was going to get it.
This never Trump attitude doesn't exist, and Trump won, so
there'd be no grand standing. He'll get the gabble, and
he did. Here comes the certification today. The presidency is
(00:23):
about to begin with an inauguration, the twenty twenty five possibilities.
I mean, you know, this is the time of the year.
Everybody does year in review. Let's do year in preview,
Chris Walker. Because the first hurdle for the Republicans they
passed with flying colors. They didn't mess anything up with
the gabble on Friday. That was That's a very good
sign and good start, right.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah, absolutely, Good morning, Michael, Happy new Year. God it
be with you again, Holliday.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yes, you know, I think.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
It was a great show. There was a little bit
of an effort from some to kind of, you know,
kind of create a moment. I generally love Thomas Massey.
I feel like in this instance his one vote really
wasn't necessary. I would like to see him kind of
come into the unity side. He made his point, but
on the whole, I mean, I think the Republicans have
kind of learned a little bit of their lessons from
last year, like, hey, we've got a lot of work
(01:14):
to do here to get President Trump in the best position,
but not just President Trump, but the ideas and the
values of the voters who put him in. You know,
there's a reason why he won, and there's a reason
why he you know, had you know, ten million more
votes than he had in his first election twenty sixteen.
And that's the part because people have come towards him
because they're realizing what he's saying is right. And so
it's not a matter of just kind of pushing one
(01:34):
issue or another in Congress, and you know, they're members
of partners that they have that they should do that.
But there's also a country here in a lot of
ways to stay from the four years of Bide administration.
There's a lot of work to do.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Well, I said it this way, You're going to have
a hard time making a case against Johnson as a
supporter of Trump when there was no distance between the
two of them throughout the campaign and all the way
to victories. So that kind of made it very moved
for me. I'm not one to ignore obvious markers. But
the other thing is it's hearing the voice of the
(02:07):
American people. We're sick of all the inside partisan political
bickering and battles. Somebody do something and secure this border.
Somebody do something and secure this out of control cost
of living inflation. Somebody do something to secure that we
can have more of our paycheck in order to afford
what inflation is going to exist for a while. I
(02:30):
not to mention the last time they did it was
a disaster because they didn't have a plan. B It
blew up in their face. I mean, certainly they weren't
going to play the game of how dumb are we
to do that again? And they didn't.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
That's right, And you know, so far we're seeing is positive.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
This is good. I mean, we're going to see the
presidential election, you know, kind of certified today, which is
also good. I think Margine Taller Green's point was very good.
This weekend, Like, hey, people, most people have stayed it's
it's people are kind of realize what time it is,
it's time to get to work. There's a lot of
work to be done. And President Trump, I mean, let's
be honest, has a very short window to get.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
A lot of accomplished here.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
You're going to run into midterm elections here in about
a year and a half. You're going to have, you
know a lot of the political gamesmanships starting to take place.
Democrats aren't going to just go away quietly. So while
we have this unity, while we have this unanimity, it's
we have to get a lot done in a short
amount of time. So putting aside a lot of these
more personal grudge matches is more important for the overall
(03:27):
mission that we need to accomplish here, caspitality to reform
the FBI. You know, Marco Ruby has a lot of
work to clean up from Tony Blincoln at State. You know,
the most can go on and on here, and so
there's like, let's get moving quickly and get these cabinet
appointments confirmed and get the administration running in the right
direction as quickly as possible.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Republican Party consulting, Chris Walker joining us. You know, I
think of Kamala Harris throughout the holiday season, kept showing
up at holiday gatherings, going on and on about how
we can't lose hope. Just because we lost an election
doesn't mean we've lost our way. There was nobody mourning
that lass, so it just it fell flat and dead
(04:04):
and looked pathetic. You got Joe Biden yesterday and I
would have made sounds the day. But he uses the
expression GD, which you know, I grew up Italian. You
use the F words, word, any word. I don't even
notice it. I mean, this is it's like ah to me,
you do GD, and I get offended. Sorry, I'm old school,
so I didn't play the clip. But I mean he's
(04:25):
still trying to sell threat to democracy and that he
is not cognitively impaired, and that he is the wisest
man in the room and we're losing him and democracy.
All those narratives aren't working. I mean, you keep bringing
up the Democrats aren't going to just go away if
they don't get I mean, I played a clip earlier
(04:45):
with Harry Enton, who was on CNN throughout the election,
telling them exactly what was coming. You're losing blackmail votes,
You're losing Hispanic votes, You're losing Asian votes. Yeah, there
is a gender gap, but it's not as big as
you think over abortion, and there's a big one with men.
I mean, he was telling them you're gonna lose, You're
gonna lose, and they wouldn't listen. And now he's telling him,
not only did you lose, not only does the Republican
(05:07):
Party belong to Donald Trump. America's behind Donald Trump. I mean,
how many games can the Democrats play? And it's not
still learning the lesson? You're ignoring the people who are
smarter than you. I mean, I don't think they've got many.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Plays, no, you know, And honestly, I would.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Anticipate the Democrats taking the wrong lesson and moving forward
further left. You're going to see the aoaocs start to,
you know, kind of have an ascendency. You're going to
see this effort to kind of modernize and you know,
kind of make younger. The Bernie Sanders coole. Listen to
the Democrat Party, and you know, I wish them well
(05:48):
in their their you know, efforts there, but I think
that's where they're going to go. But you know, Joe Biden,
I mean, goodness, race as you mentioned Trudeau and in
the preview before we came on, you know, Donald.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Trump literally he had true out to down.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
To mar A Lago, called him the governor of the
state of Canada, and within three weeks he was out.
Donald Trump has more more influenced sway than the for
instanding president.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
So I thought of I thought of you, and I
thought of you when I saw that story because you're
Donald Trump joked you could be the fifty first state. Uh,
and that's still at play. I doubt that's going to happen.
Bottom line. Uh, you know this is unique. Donald Trump
is a wiser Donald Trump for everything he has been through,
He's not going to fall for a faucie. He's not
going to fall for you know, I need of this
(06:31):
other nonsense.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
He gets a second one hundred days. What are the
reasonable expectations of things he can do in this second
term before passing the paton on to this new Trump
revolution of a Republican Party.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Well, I think there's going to be just some some things.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
That happened with the government being windly the business or friend,
theer to business friend, theer to kind of wealth creation
and economic growth, rather than this top down, some down
of approach.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Of the Democrat government regulations.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
So on, go ahead, Yeah, you know what we saw
over the holiday. You know, but Joe Biden single handley,
you know, rejecting the Nip and Steel you know business deal,
which was an absurdity. You know, a pro business type
environment in the White House will be it will be
a positives rather than protectionism. You know, they'll be smart trade,
they'll be smart you know efforts there. You know, there's
(07:26):
a huge deep state that needs means performance. So you know,
Trump's picked a lot of reformers Pam Bondi and has
to tell on others. So I think it's important to
see that. But I would anticipate you know a lot
of businesses being able to kind of get to green
lights and make mergers and you know kind of build
build and create wealth and develop, you know, kind of
new new technologies that really kind of grow. I mean,
(07:46):
we saw if you could put a stamp on the
Biden administrations. The biggest failure, it's spending billions of dollars
of broadband and non connecting a single home for Royal
broadband where you have startlink to available to us today. Right,
there's private sector solutions to all these the bid the
Mistress is incapable of thinking about because they will never
agree with the idea of the prime sector Firth. So
I think Trump coming in and having that type of
(08:09):
mentality and embracing business will be positive for everyone looking
for jobs and trying to look for growth and wealth creation.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I would sum it up this way. I'd let Doge
do their job and cut spending. Finally, someone is going
to address we have a spending problem, not a revenue problem.
I would secure that border. I would deport illegals who
have committed crimes since breaking into the country at least,
and I would cut some of these regulations and secure
these tax cuts. That's about probably all you can get
(08:36):
done in this term, but that would that would spur
a lot of not only prosperity and growth, but security.
And then just his presence I think supplies the piece
through strength necessary for all these bad actors on the
world stage as well.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Very critical. You're exactly running security piece. I mean the border.
The border is number one issue. I mean, look at
look at this, look at what happened on the subway
over the holiday in New York. Like just the crime
running rampant in these communities. Just you go to any
city and you feel it and you see it is
the number one issue. You know Tom Homan, who's going
(09:15):
to be the borders are. It's been a lion on
table news already talking about supports and deportation, and I
think it would be great to see how he starts
that process here in a couple of days
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