Cabinet hearings get underway in DC while fires remain mostly not contained in LA. Worldview comes to the surface on both, we ask republican consultant Chris Walker if that’s for good reason?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Previously on Your Morning Show with Michael dil Choano.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Joining us now in the liveline is Chris Walker. He
is a Republican consultant and analyst and a Your Morning
Show regular.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
You know, we were looking red and eye off the
air Chris.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
At the confirmation votes for Joe Biden's cabinet, people would
be surprised to note very few were close. Blincoln seventy
eight to twenty two, Yelling eighty four to fifteen. In fact,
i'll cut to the chase. The only two that were
even close was Health and Human Services Secretary Xavier Bikara
(00:35):
was fifty to forty nine and Mayorcis ironically fifty six
to forty three. The others were not close. So my
question to you is how much of this not even
getting to the atmosphere of this transition, but in general,
is this overplay? I mean, the likelihood that any of
these may not get through pretty slim, right.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Well, the Democrats play a different neopolitics and Republicans generally done.
I mean, I think that's part of Donald Trump's, you know,
frustration with the Senate sometimes that Republicans would would play
the the nice gentlemanly cards for lack of a better term,
and the Democrats would play bare knuckles, you know, back
back for all fighting. So that that that applied to
(01:17):
Joe Biden in his effort too. So you know, I
think there will be some flights here Democrats, there's a
very slim majority in the Senate. There's several kind of
Republicans that are still kind of you know, uh wary
of of partisan fights for lack of a better word,
and so I think some of these will be more difficult.
We saw that with you know, Pete Hegsas's nomination in November,
(01:38):
where people were kind of trying to push back, so
Johnny and orson others trying to kind of suggest maybe
there was not not some support there. We saw that
with Matt Gates obviously he kind of had to a
drunk because there wasn't supporting the Senate. And you know,
I'm hearing that there's gonna be a you know, a definite,
uh difficult path for RK. So you know, there's there's
(02:00):
several pieces here where the Democrats are aligned and Republicans
sometimes don't do the same thing, and that's.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Where some of these fights come from.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
But it's going to take Republicans and they will, but
I mean, that's that's what they will. So you know,
unfortunately that you know that there is not that same
unanimity of political purpose that you see from Democrats and
the Republicans.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
And sometimes that's a good thing.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
But in case like cabinet appointments, where you have a
clear mandate from the country to have Trump have his
kicks in there, I think you're going to see some
some Republicans wavering and uh, you know, trying to play
a little bit of this game a little bit more
than the Democrats wouldn't and similar circumstances.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
And you see, you didn't mention Telsey Gabbard, but you
see RFK hag Sets I think.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Is kind of I think he Sets has turned it
around and I think he'll be fine. Uh you know,
I just I mean more along the lines of like
it took some some real grassroots effort to get hag
Sets into a better position. He had to really fight,
you know, I I am hearing that RFK, the RFK
nomination is going to be a challenge.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
You know, we'll see.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
I think, you know, the president does have the that
you know, should should have his you know.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Picks confirmed. But you know, sometimes the Senate gets gets.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Voices in their head outside of the political process that
kind of can gum some of these things up.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
We were talking with John Decker about how the left
should be careful. Fifty four percent of the American people
support uh, the way Donald Trump is handling the presidential transition.
Uh there, you know, doesn't seem to be a lot
of grace for troublemaking right now. Should the Republicans need
that warning as well?
Speaker 5 (03:43):
Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (03:44):
I mean again, I point to Jony Erst. I mean
he kind of came out waftling on hegstats and there
was a huge graphs well of support saying watch out
or you know, we may primary you. You know, there's
a big power you know ship happening in the Republican
parties also this day, and so those types.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Of things are being watched and being noticed.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
So yes, I think Republicans, you know, should would understand
the need to kind of get in line. Although I mean,
you know again, and look, I'm a I'm a constitutionalist
and conservative first before proprior Republican. I mean, I've talked
about that a lot. But you know, the Senate does
have a role in this, and that there are some
people that don't meet the measure of some sense, that's okay,
But in this instance, you know, I think trust picking
(04:27):
some really good people, and it will have to be
a very strong measure to to say that hey, this
isn't this person is a qualified to runt department or
or an agency.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Republican can sell Chris Walker joining us. I'm not going
to re litigate the litigate the whole you know, uh
issue of matrix. But thanks to the social dilemma, thanks
to the death of journalism, a matrix has formed in
the country. People on the far left and people on
the far right living in silos only talking to people
that think like them, reading what they read. We don't
(04:58):
have news, we don't have news consumers. We just have
narratives and narrative repeaters. I think some of that has
been broken in the twenty twenty four election cycle.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Clearly the narrative didn't work.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Clearly the silencing of opposition views didn't work, mainly because
Elon Musk bought X and formed a coalition along with
Rfk Junior and Telsea Gabbard and Donald Trump. But we see,
we see the matrix still in place with these fires
in Los Angeles, the left narrative is this is the
result of global warming denial. The right narrative, this is
DEI focus and failed governance. That's why LA is burning
(05:33):
to the ground. How not whether which side of the
matrix is right in Los Angeles? How alive and well
is the matrix? And has it perhaps even been decoded
and debunked and died beyond the twenty twenty four election cycle.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Well, I mean that's a really good question, Michael.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
You know, honestly, I think that it's still breathing, but
it's on life support to agree, because there still is
a huge bloss of the country. I mean, look at
the joy reads and the n snbc's of Jinsaki going
out there and blaming Trump as if he's still has
an office today. You know, the skepticism and the unwillingness
(06:13):
of just taking narratives at face value is what's the
most important piece of it. There's still going to be
these narratives that get pushed out there. The Democrats have
invested one hundred years of time and resources and thought
into these destructive narratives. They're not going to just give
up because Elon bought Twitter, but poking holes in them
and having that ability to say this isn't. This isn't
(06:35):
the reality of it, I think is important. What the
real you know, kind of metric to look at is,
you know, California become more purple instead of just bright
blue because of things like this. People are seeing the
failure of liberal governance in real time.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
That Karen Bass, you know, refusing to even show a sympathetic.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Answer to a question on an airplane tarmac shows that,
you know, there's this this disconnect from liberal leadership to.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
The people that they're supposedly serving.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Or how about that was gonna be hidden before?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Or how about Governor Newsom suspending the state environmental rules
for rebuilding after the fire is temporarily and of course
everybody's gonna be saying this should.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Be the normal process.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
This is why we have a housing shortage, that's why
housing is unaffordable. Uh, there's gonna be a lot of
connecting of dots through this pain that could change the
way because at the end of the day, if in
fact you have incompetence and leadership position, the voters put
them there, so they're gonna the byproduct is gonna be
they're gonna relook at how they're electing people, which is
(07:34):
something that's kind of a hot topic for you in general.
And it's not just the fire that we view this,
although Karen Bass could be an example, Joe Biden could
be a great example. We have to start looking at
recruiting smart leaders in executive positions in industries versus career politicians.
(07:55):
That's where I see that where the tread trend could
go and quite frankly should go.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Executive positions are not you know, pinnacles of a political
you know, a career politician's career. You know, like these
are people, these are big jobs where people need to
be running stuff. Karen Bass was a backbencher congresswoman who
was on Joe Biden's shortlist to be VP, and she's
proven herself to be having been completely incompetent in the job,
(08:22):
hiring people who were not really qualified for the jobs
they were in. You know, but the politics of this
are are really important, and so yeah, I think executives
should be thinking looking at this to try to step
up more. We saw that, you know, in that mayor's
race in Los Angeles, Karen Bass beat I can't remember
the guy's name on top of my head, sorry, but
(08:42):
you know his his developments and paalafits didn't burn up
because he took the requirements and the cautions to do it.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
That's kind of the leadership that we need. It's not
just about politics.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
And I would say that's.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Part of the reason why Donald Trust was so successful.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
He was an executive that came out of government to
say I'm going to run because I care about the country.
It's not a career pinnacle for me. It's like I
see a problem and I want to solve it. So
being open to that idea of having these outsiders, executives,
business leaders coming in saying like I have skills that
could be performed here, I think are important pieces of
that puzzle of like how we choose our leaders. At
(09:16):
least in these they can bring it. So it's a
difference for you know, legislators. I think there's a reason
to be said, hey, if I'm in the legislation, I've
been there for a while, like, okay, fine, you probably
know what you're doing, So that doesn't mean you can
run you know, a twenty billion dollar a year kind
of state budget.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
So those are the types of bics people need to be.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Thinking about as they think about executives over the next
few years, because we're seeing it in real time here
in California.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
You can chalk this up to Jimmy Carter died and
then I started looking at old idios and I'm watching
this old interview with sixty minutes. And it wasn't long
before I started watching some of these old interviews. I
remembered that I'm going to use the word creepy, and
it's not to be mean. It was just I remember
as a teenager I would see it and there was
(09:59):
something discernibly awkward for me to see. But Jimmy Carter
would get a big smile and kind of like an
evil look in his eye when he would say certain things,
and I was reminded of that watching these videos. And
then it got to potential candidates. Now this is nineteen
eighty four, coming out of the first term of Ronald Reagan,
and guess who Jimmy Carter was schlepping that everybody forgets
(10:21):
Leiahcocca and wanted him bad. So, I mean, this is
not new that America comes to these ploys where it
goes through cycles where it's kind of had it with
career politicians that know how to win political races, but
don't know how to run the offices once they're elected.
That seems to kind of be birthing in addition to
(10:43):
everything else that's going on right now. And I think
you got your finger on it. We'll keep an eye
on don't lose that thought. Let's keep an eye on
that in the year two three ahead. Chris Walker has
always appreciated.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Please please don't make me like Jimmy Carter.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Let's let's never do that again.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
You don't have that.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I have that weird eye thing going with your smile,
and your smile is authentic. But no, it was a
very very Lloyd Benson like I smile that Jimmy Carter
had in common with Lloyd Benson.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Up, go back, see if you catch that. But yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Thought it was interesting that, you know, long before Donald Trump.
And by the way, that would be right about the
time Oprah was so curious with Donald Trump, would you
run for president? Because we talk a lot about trump
Ism and where it goes after Donald Trump, and it
may not necessarily go to maga Trump lieutenants. As much
(11:35):
as this notion of proven industrial economic leaders versus career politicians,
I wanted to leave that on the radar for us
to keep an eye.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I appreciated Chris Walker.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
As always, we'll talk next Monday or sooner if conditions warrant.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Miss a little, miss a lot, miss a lot, and
we'll miss you. It's your morning show with Michael del Churno.
Previously on Your Morning Show with Michael dil Choano.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Joining us now in the liveline is Chris Walker. He
is a Republican consultant and analyst and a Your Morning
Show regular.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
You know, we were looking red and eye off the
air Chris.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
At the confirmation votes for Joe Biden's cabinet, people would
be surprised to note very few were close. Blincoln seventy
eight to twenty two, Yelling eighty four to fifteen. In fact,
i'll cut to the chase. The only two that were
even close was Health and Human Services Secretary Xavier Bikara
(00:35):
was fifty to forty nine and Mayorcis ironically fifty six
to forty three. The others were not close. So my
question to you is how much of this not even
getting to the atmosphere of this transition, but in general,
is this overplay? I mean, the likelihood that any of
these may not get through pretty slim, right.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Well, the Democrats play a different neopolitics and Republicans generally done.
I mean, I think that's part of Donald Trump's, you know,
frustration with the Senate sometimes that Republicans would would play
the the nice gentlemanly cards for lack of a better term,
and the Democrats would play bare knuckles, you know, back
back for all fighting. So that that that applied to
(01:17):
Joe Biden in his effort too. So you know, I
think there will be some flights here Democrats, there's a
very slim majority in the Senate. There's several kind of
Republicans that are still kind of you know, uh wary
of of partisan fights for lack of a better word,
and so I think some of these will be more difficult.
We saw that with you know, Pete Hegsas's nomination in November,
(01:38):
where people were kind of trying to push back, so
Johnny and orson others trying to kind of suggest maybe
there was not not some support there. We saw that
with Matt Gates obviously he kind of had to a
drunk because there wasn't supporting the Senate. And you know,
I'm hearing that there's gonna be a you know, a definite,
uh difficult path for RK. So you know, there's there's
(02:00):
several pieces here where the Democrats are aligned and Republicans
sometimes don't do the same thing, and that's.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Where some of these fights come from.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
But it's going to take Republicans and they will, but
I mean, that's that's what they will. So you know,
unfortunately that you know that there is not that same
unanimity of political purpose that you see from Democrats and
the Republicans.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
And sometimes that's a good thing.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
But in case like cabinet appointments, where you have a
clear mandate from the country to have Trump have his
kicks in there, I think you're going to see some
some Republicans wavering and uh, you know, trying to play
a little bit of this game a little bit more
than the Democrats wouldn't and similar circumstances.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
And you see, you didn't mention Telsey Gabbard, but you
see RFK hag Sets I think.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Is kind of I think he Sets has turned it
around and I think he'll be fine. Uh you know,
I just I mean more along the lines of like
it took some some real grassroots effort to get hag
Sets into a better position. He had to really fight,
you know, I I am hearing that RFK, the RFK
nomination is going to be a challenge.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
You know, we'll see.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
I think, you know, the president does have the that
you know, should should have his you know.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Picks confirmed. But you know, sometimes the Senate gets gets.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Voices in their head outside of the political process that
kind of can gum some of these things up.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
We were talking with John Decker about how the left
should be careful. Fifty four percent of the American people
support uh, the way Donald Trump is handling the presidential transition.
Uh there, you know, doesn't seem to be a lot
of grace for troublemaking right now. Should the Republicans need
that warning as well?
Speaker 5 (03:43):
Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (03:44):
I mean again, I point to Jony Erst. I mean
he kind of came out waftling on hegstats and there
was a huge graphs well of support saying watch out
or you know, we may primary you. You know, there's
a big power you know ship happening in the Republican
parties also this day, and so those types.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Of things are being watched and being noticed.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
So yes, I think Republicans, you know, should would understand
the need to kind of get in line. Although I mean,
you know again, and look, I'm a I'm a constitutionalist
and conservative first before proprior Republican. I mean, I've talked
about that a lot. But you know, the Senate does
have a role in this, and that there are some
people that don't meet the measure of some sense, that's okay,
But in this instance, you know, I think trust picking
(04:27):
some really good people, and it will have to be
a very strong measure to to say that hey, this
isn't this person is a qualified to runt department or
or an agency.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Republican can sell Chris Walker joining us. I'm not going
to re litigate the litigate the whole you know, uh
issue of matrix. But thanks to the social dilemma, thanks
to the death of journalism, a matrix has formed in
the country. People on the far left and people on
the far right living in silos only talking to people
that think like them, reading what they read. We don't
(04:58):
have news, we don't have news consumers. We just have
narratives and narrative repeaters. I think some of that has
been broken in the twenty twenty four election cycle.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Clearly the narrative didn't work.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Clearly the silencing of opposition views didn't work, mainly because
Elon Musk bought X and formed a coalition along with
Rfk Junior and Telsea Gabbard and Donald Trump. But we see,
we see the matrix still in place with these fires
in Los Angeles, the left narrative is this is the
result of global warming denial. The right narrative, this is
DEI focus and failed governance. That's why LA is burning
(05:33):
to the ground. How not whether which side of the
matrix is right in Los Angeles? How alive and well
is the matrix? And has it perhaps even been decoded
and debunked and died beyond the twenty twenty four election cycle.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Well, I mean that's a really good question, Michael.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
You know, honestly, I think that it's still breathing, but
it's on life support to agree, because there still is
a huge bloss of the country. I mean, look at
the joy reads and the n snbc's of Jinsaki going
out there and blaming Trump as if he's still has
an office today. You know, the skepticism and the unwillingness
(06:13):
of just taking narratives at face value is what's the
most important piece of it. There's still going to be
these narratives that get pushed out there. The Democrats have
invested one hundred years of time and resources and thought
into these destructive narratives. They're not going to just give
up because Elon bought Twitter, but poking holes in them
and having that ability to say this isn't. This isn't
(06:35):
the reality of it, I think is important. What the
real you know, kind of metric to look at is,
you know, California become more purple instead of just bright
blue because of things like this. People are seeing the
failure of liberal governance in real time.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
That Karen Bass, you know, refusing to even show a sympathetic.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Answer to a question on an airplane tarmac shows that,
you know, there's this this disconnect from liberal leadership to.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
The people that they're supposedly serving.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Or how about that was gonna be hidden before?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Or how about Governor Newsom suspending the state environmental rules
for rebuilding after the fire is temporarily and of course
everybody's gonna be saying this should.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Be the normal process.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
This is why we have a housing shortage, that's why
housing is unaffordable. Uh, there's gonna be a lot of
connecting of dots through this pain that could change the
way because at the end of the day, if in
fact you have incompetence and leadership position, the voters put
them there, so they're gonna the byproduct is gonna be
they're gonna relook at how they're electing people, which is
(07:34):
something that's kind of a hot topic for you in general.
And it's not just the fire that we view this,
although Karen Bass could be an example, Joe Biden could
be a great example. We have to start looking at
recruiting smart leaders in executive positions in industries versus career politicians.
(07:55):
That's where I see that where the tread trend could
go and quite frankly should go.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Executive positions are not you know, pinnacles of a political
you know, a career politician's career. You know, like these
are people, these are big jobs where people need to
be running stuff. Karen Bass was a backbencher congresswoman who
was on Joe Biden's shortlist to be VP, and she's
proven herself to be having been completely incompetent in the job,
(08:22):
hiring people who were not really qualified for the jobs
they were in. You know, but the politics of this
are are really important, and so yeah, I think executives
should be thinking looking at this to try to step
up more. We saw that, you know, in that mayor's
race in Los Angeles, Karen Bass beat I can't remember
the guy's name on top of my head, sorry, but
(08:42):
you know his his developments and paalafits didn't burn up
because he took the requirements and the cautions to do it.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
That's kind of the leadership that we need. It's not
just about politics.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
And I would say that's.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Part of the reason why Donald Trust was so successful.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
He was an executive that came out of government to
say I'm going to run because I care about the country.
It's not a career pinnacle for me. It's like I
see a problem and I want to solve it. So
being open to that idea of having these outsiders, executives,
business leaders coming in saying like I have skills that
could be performed here, I think are important pieces of
that puzzle of like how we choose our leaders. At
(09:16):
least in these they can bring it. So it's a
difference for you know, legislators. I think there's a reason
to be said, hey, if I'm in the legislation, I've
been there for a while, like, okay, fine, you probably
know what you're doing, So that doesn't mean you can
run you know, a twenty billion dollar a year kind
of state budget.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
So those are the types of bics people need to be.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Thinking about as they think about executives over the next
few years, because we're seeing it in real time here
in California.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
You can chalk this up to Jimmy Carter died and
then I started looking at old idios and I'm watching
this old interview with sixty minutes. And it wasn't long
before I started watching some of these old interviews. I
remembered that I'm going to use the word creepy, and
it's not to be mean. It was just I remember
as a teenager I would see it and there was
(09:59):
something discernibly awkward for me to see. But Jimmy Carter
would get a big smile and kind of like an
evil look in his eye when he would say certain things,
and I was reminded of that watching these videos. And
then it got to potential candidates. Now this is nineteen
eighty four, coming out of the first term of Ronald Reagan,
and guess who Jimmy Carter was schlepping that everybody forgets
(10:21):
Leiahcocca and wanted him bad. So, I mean, this is
not new that America comes to these ploys where it
goes through cycles where it's kind of had it with
career politicians that know how to win political races, but
don't know how to run the offices once they're elected.
That seems to kind of be birthing in addition to
(10:43):
everything else that's going on right now. And I think
you got your finger on it. We'll keep an eye
on don't lose that thought. Let's keep an eye on
that in the year two three ahead. Chris Walker has
always appreciated.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Please please don't make me like Jimmy Carter.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Let's let's never do that again.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
You don't have that.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I have that weird eye thing going with your smile,
and your smile is authentic. But no, it was a
very very Lloyd Benson like I smile that Jimmy Carter
had in common with Lloyd Benson.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Up, go back, see if you catch that. But yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Thought it was interesting that, you know, long before Donald Trump.
And by the way, that would be right about the
time Oprah was so curious with Donald Trump, would you
run for president? Because we talk a lot about trump
Ism and where it goes after Donald Trump, and it
may not necessarily go to maga Trump lieutenants. As much
(11:35):
as this notion of proven industrial economic leaders versus career politicians,
I wanted to leave that on the radar for us
to keep an eye.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I appreciated Chris Walker.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
As always, we'll talk next Monday or sooner if conditions warrant.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Miss a little, miss a lot, miss a lot, and
we'll miss you. It's your morning show with Michael del Churno.
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