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Jornan seven minutes after the hour. Welcome to Wednesday, the
fifteenth of January, pay day for most you have Onload
twenty twenty five. Rise and shine, and good morning, and
thanks for listening to set the table for you. The
Deftholl has risen by one in southern California at twenty five.
A lot of fires popped up yesterday and were immediately
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put out, so some good work yesterday. As far as
the two main fires, containment levels haven't grown very much.
The Palisades at eighteen percent containment eaten at thirty five
percent containment. The Democrats, while they should be focused on
putting out fires and helping those who have lost everything,
they passed a fifty million dollar bill to trump proof
their state. Pete Hegseth was attacked continuously throughout the confirmation
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hearing yesterday, but he shined it in the end. Joony
Ernst has made it clear that she will change now
and support him. That almost ensures his confirmation Today. Two
pretty easy rides in Pam Bondi and Marco Rubio. After all,
Rubio is a member of the Club of one hundred
and Michelle Obama no show at the Carter funeral, now
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a no show at the inauguration. David Zanatti is joining us.
One of the things that I was fascinating today by
is a story in the hill. This has been, you know,
for all to see in net leadership, and yesterday you
couldn't put it more easy for everyone to see instead
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of focusing on them, instead of focusing on preparation and
preparedness and prevention prior to the fire, what were they
focused on? And then in the midst of the flames burning,
they're passing fifty million dollars to support being Trump proof
as a state, which is this resistance. This is all
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backfiring tremendously. And so in twenty sixteen we saw an
anti incumbent movement that would have led to outsider elections
which produced Donald Trump and he went on to win.
It would have produced Bernie Sanders, but the Democrats meddled.
Has this anti incumbent outsider movement is it now shifting
to an anti politician movement? And what will be the
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future in California? We documented some six hundred thousand have
mass exited the state in the last two years. That's
about the size of the Tulsa Metro. That's I I'd
lose in a city within a state. And for those
that will be leaving because of this, and then for
those that will be staying, how differently might they view
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who they vote for and what their passion and focus
is versus you know, having the basics down, Pat, I
think it's worth talking about because it could be the
ultimate Trump legacy, which isn't the continuation of Republican trump
Ism as much as anti politicians. David, something's bruined, something's reshaping.
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What are you seeing?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Yeah, Michael, and it's a good point you're bringing up,
it's been around for a long time.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Let's go back to California as an example.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
About twelve years ago, the media began to very quietly
and in just a few places, reveal the strategy of
the Democrat Party, basically funded by the radical progressive billionaires,
which was led by a guy named Rory roy Tierra.
Roytierra and his colleagues decided to put the their a
political strategy to make California a one party state. Their
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theory was, there's no use to having Republicans any longer
because they can't get a majority of anything, so let's
just drive them out of the state and let's just
do everything that we want to do and quit worrying
about the minority.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
And so they did, and that's now.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Interestingly enough, two years ago Roy Tierra left California and
went to work for a conservative think tank and has
acknowledged out loud that it was a disastrous mistake.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
So when this is all said and done, you're going
to have those who leave, and I think they'll be
a wave leaving because of this incompetence, and then there'll
be a wave staying. They're not going to view things
to say purple at best. Maybe, well, let's do this
by comparison.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Here in Florida, where we have an office, you have
a perpetual realm of hurricanes that are natural disasters that
are now baked into the mindset of the people who
choose to stay in Florida. And what's happened is people
are leaving the coastlines of Florida in high risk properties
because they can't get insurance, so they're moving inland. But
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their people are not abandoning Florida. Now there are fewer
people coming in, which is really great news for the
people of Florida because they've got plenty of people. They're
now the third largest state in the country. But the
difference is one group accepts the reality that there's disasters
that are a part of a climate that they live
in and aggressively moves to mitigate against them and to
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figure out how to live with the problem. And they're
they're fighting their way through. But in California, they will
abandoned because you've got one state that's based on political
incompetence and one party dominance and really thoughtlessness, and another
state where people are trying to solve problems. Doesn't make
Florida a better place than California. It's just a different
place and you have different results. Michael Rappaport, the actor, said,
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are you kidding me? You want to make our state
trump proof when you should be making it fireproof, you know.
And I always bring up that there was a British
accent guy that used to fill and for rush all
the time. And I can't remember his name to save
my life right now. Mar Mark segn Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
And he was also in the Social Network, which was
the Mark Zuckerberg story, and he played the president of
Harvard University when the Winklevoss twins came in to make
their appeal, and they had memorized this thing in the
Harvard Code of Conduct, and he says, and you were
doing this when you should have been doing what It's
a great line. And for everyone in California, you know,
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you get dry conditions. You know, you get Santa Ana wins.
You know, you lose hundreds of acres, if not thousands
of acres in these fires, and you let reservoirs go empty.
You didn't do any kind of changes to electrical wiring
systems or to forestry to get rid of fire hazards
and I think everybody's looking at that and having a debate.
And then yesterday, while everything is still on fire, while
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people are with twenty one thousand structures, business and homes lost,
their life, work lost, all their processions lost, and you're
passing fifteen million dollars to be trump proof. I mean there,
you always use expression read the room, and I use
expression tone deafness.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
This is, this is breathtaking.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I don't know that. I don't know that you can
come up with any case in recent history this bad.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Well, it's interesting, Michael, because every part of our country,
every region of our country, has life threatening natural disaster challenges.
The question is when politics becomes so much about parties
and power and not about problem solving, you end up
in a situation where you get caught. And that's what
California has been getting caught in a series of these
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types of situations, and.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
They've only gone and tacked farther and farther and farther
to the extreme.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Now where we're going to see this play out the most?
Isn't it an anti incumbent fervor it's in an anti
party ferver.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Well, you know you hate that I make predictions, but
you know, I said, ahead, I know this one. Well, yeah,
I mean I said one or both parties have becne
by the end of the decade. I think for the Republicans,
we're now halfway through the decade, so the view gets
I said this at the turn of the decade, but
you know we're halfway through now. That may be the
Republican Party gone in terms of it has morphed into
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trump Ism, which is warped into Americanism. All right, So
in an essence as a partisan party, it may have
shifted and gone. But you know, the Democrat Party's been
at war with itself. There's a civil war in the
party with the Justice Democrats, and they don't target Republicans.
Their first goal, like AOC is the greatest example, and
they brag about it online. They picked this bartender to
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take down a ten term Democrat member of Congress because
why they want to take over the party first, Then
they want to eliminate the electoral college. Then they want
to dismantle the republic But their first step is to
take over the party. But this kind of inept leadership,
or what I would call poor passion and focus, if
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you can't get the fundamentals of what government should be doing. Right,
you don't have the luxury of DEI you know, the
luxury of men playing women's sports, and some of these
other silly arguments when you can't keep the state. I mean,
this is obviously an out of control fire still in
southern California, but this is a statewide political fire. And
I don't think we know what the state politically is
going to look like once the fire's out. That's a
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great we don't. It is very good.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Now you can go one of two ways. People can't
survive in cash, so they it we'll either move toward
authoritarianism and it'll get worse, or they'll basically start over
again and to return to first principles of civil liberty
and personal responsibility. The choices haven't changed any in about
three hundred years. So this is what they the same question.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Second largest city, fourth largest city. I can go through
the major markets in California and the largest populoist state.
I mean, you lose. There was a time Florida was blue.
There was a time Florida was a swing state. Florida's
now solid red. You lose California, What do you got?
I mean, there's a lot online for the Democrats. You
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think they play it smarter than this. Well, see here's
the difference.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
And you know this, And it's an important way to
discuss that, I think for others that perhaps are just
in the process of discovery that.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
There is no Democrat party.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
The Democrat Party has been hollowed out over the last
twenty years by the billionaire's club of the progressive movement.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
And they pay the bills.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
So if you want to be a Democrat and you
want to make a living, you do what Sorows and
Company and put Esta in Company tell you to do.
That's the only pathway of the future. Kamala Harris is
a perfect example. That's the only way up into their system.
And everybody else, like labor unions and all these other
folks at teachers unions, they're.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Just window dressing.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
And the party no longer exists, and nor does its
narratives exist or the people that provide those narratives at
the cabal table. To the Washington Post Web traffic stats,
we go in Our continuing coverage of the Florida of
the California fires continues with our DZ conversation.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
It's your Morning Show, Michael del Choano.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
This is your morning show, and we're having our weekly
visit with David Zanati from the American Policy Roundtable most
of the Public Square heard on two hundred stations and
presides over I voters. David, just to kind of put
a nutshell the previous segment and the podcast is there
if you missed it. Something with everybody watching the inept
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leadership in California, something's brewing. Is this going to lead
to a wave of a further exodus or a reshaping
of the political landscape purple at best in the future
You think time will tell too soon to tell.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
And of course for this to change, there's got to
be a group of people stand up and say we
want to lead in California. And that usually is after
the exodus. So the next several years are going to
be pretty shaky. Oh to god, they don't get hit
with an earthquake out there.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Our sound of the day was the owner of the
Los Angeles Times and he's apologizing for endorsing the mayor
and then he talks about, you know, it really is
time to stop being so partisan. In fact, it might
be time to move away from politicians altogether and get
real business leaders. Real leaders who have controlled the payroll
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and wrote checks. Because politicians are good at getting elected,
but they're not good at governing once they're elected. Very profound.
That's from the La Times. Meanwhile, on the same day,
the Washington Post announces that the story breaks. The Washington
Post web traffic takes a nosedive since twenty twenty one,
a ninety percent digital readership decline. That's breathtaking to me
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in three years. And I think that might be death
of journalism plus social dilemma plus COVID plus Trump derangement
syndhom But ninety percent. The outlet owned by Jeff Bezos,
had around twenty two and a half million daily active
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users in twenty twenty one. It's down to two and
a half million. That's just the and we talked death
of journalism, decomposition of journalism. That's breathtaking. And of course
there's also technology shifts. But what do you make of
those numbers? Well, Waypoe made their technology shifts. This is
post the shifts. They've made, all their changes, and there's
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you know, they were soaring and boasting of their extraordinary
compensation and their new way, and then they fell flat
on their face.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
I think, I look, I look at I read the
way Washington Post every day, and I got other people
on our staff that do the same thing. At the
American Policy Around Table. We tracked the Washington Post, we
tracked the LA Times, we track's panting on the hill.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
We have to.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
It's what we do in the public policy business. The
bottom line is, you know, stupid is as stupid does,
and stupid should hurt. And when you get as far
out on a limb as some of these major publications
and media outlets have become, I mean, you were so
far removed from reality, and you've got so many other
people paying your bills from the corporate industrial world that
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are unaccountable to people who actually click, read, purchase, subscribe,
you end up for a big awakening.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
And that's what's happened.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
So we just had an election where I think they
tried to play the same playbook, only hiding Kamala Harris
in full sight the way they hit Joe Biden in
a basement, and it failed because they don't control the
narrative anymore, and they don't control the ability to silence
any opposing views because Elon Musk bought Twitter and made
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it X but you know, so we talked about death.
The journalism couldn't control the narrative, didn't have any influence.
In fact, you could win an election being on Joe
Rogan or Megan Kelly or Tuck o'carlson rather than being
in any of these newspapers no matter what they do,
trying to sell a narrative over covering a story. When
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you look back at these numbers, Dave, and you go, well,
I guess so they didn't have any influence. There's nobody reading.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Yeah, not to be surprising, because it just look I mean,
you can only handle so much stupid, and there's just
a lot of stuff that's going out there that's just
Michael is just not connected to reality.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Not the future. The present belongs to podcasting, digital and
quite frankly about to be banned TikTok for anybody under thirty.
That can't be emphasized enough. I mean, I'm not a
big fan of some people, but you know, there's one
in particular I'm not a big fan of who has
effectively reached young people on TikTok and that's where they're
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getting their political influence, and thank goodness, it's you know,
one that shares my worldview. But come on, I mean
that it's dead. I mean, what's the future for the
Washington Post, what's the future for the Atlantic? What's the future?
It went the way of Talk America.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Well, you know, I went recently to a stage present
of The Screwtape Letters by cs Liss, and one of
the most important lines in the entire book and in
the entire play is simply this.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
The road to the best path to health is the
gradual one.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Every time these guys get way out over their skis
reality catch us up with them.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
And then people wake up and say, what were we thinking?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
And then the people who made all the money profiteering
off on the illusion go running off into the weeds.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I think that's happening right before our eyes. Mort with
Davidson Notai from the American Pound Policy Roundtable, host of
The Public Square, also one of the hosts of eighteen
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It's also on the iHeart App.
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Speaker 4 (17:47):
Word of mouth if.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
You're just waking up. The former First Lady Michelle Obama
will not attend the inauguration, as she did not attend
the funeral of Jimmy Carter. TikTok denies it's considering selling
billionaire Elon Musk. It was quite the partisan, really kind
of feeble, ridiculous attacks on Pete. He sat yesterday, He
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rose above them and shine brightly enough for Joni Ernst
to change her mind. She will now support his confirmation.
That all but ensures his confirmation and the death toll
in Los Angeles wildfires has risen by one to twenty five.
Southern California officials say the next twenty four hours will
be very dangerous as very very high windster kicking up
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once again today. Containment wise, the Palisades is at eighteen
percent containment. They Eaton is at thirty five percent containment.
Did a good job with new fires yesterday, but containment
on these two big fires still seemingly a long way away.
And we're just kind of talking about everybody, you know,
in a really you know, there's two different worlds going on.
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Everybody who doesn't live in California watching this and certainly
having a lot of opinions about their election of duty
and the neptness and leadership, but that's being felt in
California as well. And then you add to that. Yesterday
the focus of the Democrats and the legislature in Sacramento
was fifty million dollars to trump proof the state, half
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of which twenty five million will go to blocking any
immigration enforcement or deportation. It's a tone deafness of epic proportion.
Michael Rappaport, the actor probably wrapped it up and summarized
it best in blasting Governor Newsom, saying you're trying to
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trump proof the state when we should be fireproofing. It's
just been miserable and not reading the room very well,
which led to our visit with David Soonddy So, David,
here's something interesting. In addition, we went over those numbers.
Nobody reads newspapers anymore in paper form. And I used
to always say to people, yeah, but you're you're still
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reading them because most of the stuff that you're reading
online and sharing is coming from newsaver. Well, then they
had to get aggressive, and now people got to pay
for it, and they're not willing to pay for it.
But I don't even think in my wildest dreams, I
would have ever said digital readership of the Washington Post
is down ninety percent and down to two million we
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saw this with these cable primetime shows. I made to
comment to you off the air. I remember you kind
of we were taken back by it. But I was like,
you know, some of these networks, they don't have the
ratings I had in Tulsa, Oklahoma in nineteen ninety five.
I mean, I don't even know how they're paying all
these salaries for all these big egos and nobody's watching.
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And now from Megan Kelly to Tucker Carlson, they proved
you're better off leaving. Glenn Beck may have been first
Sean Hannity, maybe next, I don't know, but I mean
ninety percent. Where's the business model? Well, there is no
business model. It's just like, let's go back. Sorry, Michael,
It's just like, let's go back to California for a second.
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At the bottom, I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give
you a chance to clear your throat for a second.
Thank you, because David gave me the disease i'm dying of, and.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
I'm accepting the blame. Right It's me.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
It was a hug at Serato's Restaurant, which was a
great meal. It was worth the illness almost. That's how
good theirs steak is.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
California.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
The California.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Think about what you just said, what the news story
just was.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
While the whole country is watching these people suffer, the legislature,
which has been built up with the minions of the
sous progressive money and the Democrat Party is still busy
at work doing there. Let's reconstruct the world according to
the progressive agenda. There's just one problem with that agenda.
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It doesn't work. It's really good until somebody gets punched
in the face or starts a fire. It just it
doesn't work that have a ruling class decide to do everything,
take sixty percent of your money and give you the
rest to go party, and.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Then for government to be the biggest participants.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
In gambling and drugs and legalization of all of this stuff.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Just let them eat cake.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
This is what they did to California because personal responsibility
disappeared for political enterprise and no focus on earthquakes, no
focus on moth slides, no focus on filled reservoirs and
fire prevention, knowing you're going to have annual fires in
sant Ana wins.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
I think the dere election of duty to the priorities.
You know, we used to always talk about, you know,
what is the proper size and role of government. That's
a question that's never asked, let alone answered. What is
the role and the responsibility of the self governed? I mean,
when you're looking at a mayor, like what has been
demonstrated to the nation going on in Los Angeles. Her
number one responsibility is public safety. But what was she doing.
(22:57):
She was cutting the fire department. Well, if we dare,
we could take this to an even further level. What
this is all about is the philosophical movement for autonomy,
which is dependent upon the idea that you can create
a utopian world because bad stuff just doesn't happen if
we wish it away. And that's the and every now
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and then we get mugged by reality and somebody says, gee,
what were we.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Thinking or why weren't we thinking about this? Why didn't
we just do this and this and this for the
last three years and then sure there would have been
a fire, but we would have been ready because we're
busy chasing the utopian fantasies. And all of that comes
from a philosophical desire to be completely independent from reality,
which is that we live in a fallen world. And
bad stuff happens in the natural order, and the first
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responsibility of government is for us to get together and
plan for the bad stuff, so when it happens, we're
not throwing political barbs at each other.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
We're solving the problem. Difference between response and reaction. Reaction
is for the unprepared, responses for the prepared. They certainly
should have been more prepared, all right, David Sinatti closing moments.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
By the way, Michael, nobody likes it when we talk
like this.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I know that, Oh well, I was just going to
get to the one plus one plus one doesn't always
equal just three. So you know, I want to come
full circle back to we went from a referendum election
in twenty sixteen and outsider election against incumbents to what
I think now is an anti politician movement. I don't
think anybody could say it better than the owner of
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the La Times that you know, these professional politicians are
great at making themselves wealthy, but they're that great at
getting a condition for the people to prosper. They are
great at winning offices, they're not great at governing once
they're in them. Maybe we need to get away from
politicians and get to people who really control business and
get this, which could be the future of trump Ism
(25:03):
and the movement away. I want to I want to share.
Some of these numbers are nothing new, but it kind
of becomes what we saw with FEMA and North Carolina.
Now the fire here, the warfare against Trump and how
that backfired, the death of journalism now turning into decomposition,
the old fashioned Gallup poll of how we perceive professions
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based on honesty and ethics. And as somebody did research
on my life, I can tell you don't look at
the in between. You want to look at the extremes.
So you want to look at the major positive and
the major negative. Notice post COVID, where doctors are I
can't even imagine if you asked CDC World Health Organization.
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At the top of the list of major positive perceptions
of professions nurses, not doctors, grade school teachers, military officers.
Now you want to go to the extreme major negatives.
What was this always traditional? Lawyers used car salesmen, used
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car salesmen, and members of Congress right now number one
on the list TV reporters. TV has lost its credibility.
Members of Congress is next, and then lobbyists there's people
couldn't describe what one is. Yeah, but there's damage at
(26:35):
an irreparable level. And I think people can see the
death of newspapers or the death of cable, US versus them,
titillate and scare and all that kind of fiery nonsense,
which kind of is what yesterday's hearings felt like. That
would have been business as usual four years ago. But
right now, fifty four percent of America are supportive of
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Donald Trump's transition. They're hopeful and excited over sixty percent
about his presidency. They're playing I don't have a better
analogy than when Total pulled the curtain, and if you remember,
the wizard looks back. He knows he's exposed, but he
goes back for ten seconds and tries to keep doing
knobs and scare.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Of them, pay no attention to the right.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
You can't keep doing it, and yet they try, and
there's a business model for it. They're going bankrupt. I
don't know that, and I don't delighten anybody's misfortune. Radio
certainly might have some challenges in the future and could
be next if it's not careful. But some of this
harm is irreparable.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Right, I mean because it all comes down to a
single word, Michael, and that's trust. When you lose it,
it's often impossible to recover. And this is what's happened.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
What did I tell you? I said the CDC should
go away because those three letters will never have any
credibility in my mind. Again, the who the world healthy
ought to go away? Just create a new one. This
what you can? Yeah, repair this one. It's so damage.
Same could be said for news, same could be said
for newspapers. Could the same be said for partisan parties? Well,
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and here's my warning. Forgive me, but it has to happen.
Beware the Senate over the next two years. There are
people hiding in the Senate that are philosophical progressives, regardless
of their party affiliation, and they will do everything they
can to make certain that Donald Trump does not succeed.
They won't necessarily set them to fail. They tried all that.
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They just don't want them to succeed.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
And this is where people from the bottom up are
going to have to fight to restore trusted leadership.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
And that starts at the bottom.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Sure, because I'm sick, but also because it was necessary.
We went over time in our weekly visit with d Z.
Thanks so much for your time.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
David, This is your morning show with Michael del Tuono.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Thanks for waking up with your morning show fifty after
the hour. Right today, the confirmation hearings continue in the
Judiciary Committee Attorney General Pam Bondy, in Foreign Relations Committee,
Secretary of State Marco Rubio. We have the CIA Director
John Radcliffe, we have Secretary of Transportation Sean Duffy. There's
a lot of cover, but today looks to be clear sailing.
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And as for yesterday's contentious hearing, Pete Hegseth really shined,
or at least shined enough for Jony Ernst to change
her mind and now pledges to support him. That's big.
Just a quick plug. I love my company. I know
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I've worked for a good one that does support me.
I love my company, And as I always say, we're
made up of people that really love their listeners, really
appreciate their advertisers. We have a very intimate relationship, and
that relationship has come together. There's been a lot of
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iHeartRadio in California has teamed up with the Dream Center
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over one point five million dollars in cash and over
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those in need in southern California. And I just want
to applaud all of our stations in California. We're on
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several of them and mostly our listeners. We live in
a very generous nation and keep that generosity coming. There's
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just text the word relief to thirty three thirty one
real quickly. We always get the final story to Rory,
and I want to talk a little bit about the
FBI releasing new information on the terrorist attack in New
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Orleans before we get to that. Containment and weather conditions
today for the suffering in southern California. What's the outlook.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
Yeah, the concern is that we might see new fire activity,
especially Ventura County, which is next to Los Angeles County.
So that's I think something that they're watching as we're
seeing winds thirty forty fifty miles per hour, steady gusting
even higher in some spots. The wind field isn't as
large as it was when this all began about a
week ago, but still obviously something to watch, and there
(31:27):
is better weather around the corner. Stuff will start to
improve today. Tomorrow's a bit of a transition day, but
we're going to see increasing humidity, lower wind speeds.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
On Friday and Saturday, death toll rose by one to
twenty five and again in the Eton fire in general,
is where the majority of these desks are coming. Do
we have any idea how because we keep following the
not accounted for list, this is a number that will rise, right, Yeah,
I think we still have about thirty who are listed
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as missing. So it's a painstaking investigation.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
As some of these firefighters, I was going to say
going door to door, but the doors are don't exist anymore,
so they go from home site to home site, going
through the rubble to make sure there's no one there.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Well, the favorable conditions tomorrow will be helpful, all right,
let's make the transition. FBI releasing new information about the
New Orleans Day attack. What do we know?
Speaker 6 (32:24):
Yeah, two weeks after the attack. Just some incremental information.
They say that fifty seven people were actually injured during
the attack that happened in the early hours of New
Year's Day. They had said thirty five were in the hospital,
but overall fifty seven injured. Of course, fourteen people were killed,
plus the person responsible who died in that shootout with police.
(32:46):
They say it appears the suspects started to become radicalized
back in twenty twenty two, really went off the deep end,
it seems in the spring of last year, and it
made multiple trips to New Orleans, even tried to get
a room with a balcony over Bourbon Street, which may
be a red flag there and may have been more
immediately influenced by the Christmas market attack in Germany that
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happened ten days before.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
And there was also warnings issued yesterday about copycats in
the future. So I mean that kind of all ties
together in terms of the motive he seemed to have.
It was marital problems, right, and then ended up getting
divorced marital yeah, and then apparently got radicalized online, right.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
And now they want to know, now that they have
seen his digital fingerprints, they want to know who else
is interacting with some of these same sites, watching these
same videos, reading the same stuff to see if perhaps
they have similar thoughts, because these lone wolf actors are
are difficult to find until it's too late.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Yeah, and you know, I guess the only other wrinkle
that we don't you know, I don't know what you
would do with it, but he was doing some live
videos on social media prior to it. But you know,
how do you I mean, some of the stuff, how
do you prevent? Right? It probably would probably be best
(34:17):
coming from family members or those on social media that
are kind of monitoring these things. It's certainly a teachable moment.
But that's the very latest. Roley Good.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
They don't monitor them anymore on Facebook, right, they know
not anymore.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
I appreciate your reporting today, Rory. We'll talk again tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
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Jornan seven minutes after the hour. Welcome to Wednesday, the
fifteenth of January, pay day for most you have Onload
twenty twenty five. Rise and shine, and good morning, and
thanks for listening to set the table for you. The
Deftholl has risen by one in southern California at twenty five.
A lot of fires popped up yesterday and were immediately
(00:59):
put out, so some good work yesterday. As far as
the two main fires, containment levels haven't grown very much.
The Palisades at eighteen percent containment eaten at thirty five
percent containment. The Democrats, while they should be focused on
putting out fires and helping those who have lost everything,
they passed a fifty million dollar bill to trump proof
their state. Pete Hegseth was attacked continuously throughout the confirmation
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hearing yesterday, but he shined it in the end. Joony
Ernst has made it clear that she will change now
and support him. That almost ensures his confirmation Today. Two
pretty easy rides in Pam Bondi and Marco Rubio. After all,
Rubio is a member of the Club of one hundred
and Michelle Obama no show at the Carter funeral, now
(01:45):
a no show at the inauguration. David Zanatti is joining us.
One of the things that I was fascinating today by
is a story in the hill. This has been, you know,
for all to see in net leadership, and yesterday you
couldn't put it more easy for everyone to see instead
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of focusing on them, instead of focusing on preparation and
preparedness and prevention prior to the fire, what were they
focused on? And then in the midst of the flames burning,
they're passing fifty million dollars to support being Trump proof
as a state, which is this resistance. This is all
(02:27):
backfiring tremendously. And so in twenty sixteen we saw an
anti incumbent movement that would have led to outsider elections
which produced Donald Trump and he went on to win.
It would have produced Bernie Sanders, but the Democrats meddled.
Has this anti incumbent outsider movement is it now shifting
to an anti politician movement? And what will be the
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future in California? We documented some six hundred thousand have
mass exited the state in the last two years. That's
about the size of the Tulsa Metro. That's I I'd
lose in a city within a state. And for those
that will be leaving because of this, and then for
those that will be staying, how differently might they view
(03:11):
who they vote for and what their passion and focus
is versus you know, having the basics down, Pat, I
think it's worth talking about because it could be the
ultimate Trump legacy, which isn't the continuation of Republican trump
Ism as much as anti politicians. David, something's bruined, something's reshaping.
(03:32):
What are you seeing?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Yeah, Michael, and it's a good point you're bringing up,
it's been around for a long time.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Let's go back to California as an example.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
About twelve years ago, the media began to very quietly
and in just a few places, reveal the strategy of
the Democrat Party, basically funded by the radical progressive billionaires,
which was led by a guy named Rory roy Tierra.
Roytierra and his colleagues decided to put the their a
political strategy to make California a one party state. Their
(04:04):
theory was, there's no use to having Republicans any longer
because they can't get a majority of anything, so let's
just drive them out of the state and let's just
do everything that we want to do and quit worrying
about the minority.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
And so they did, and that's now.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Interestingly enough, two years ago Roy Tierra left California and
went to work for a conservative think tank and has
acknowledged out loud that it was a disastrous mistake.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
So when this is all said and done, you're going
to have those who leave, and I think they'll be
a wave leaving because of this incompetence, and then there'll
be a wave staying. They're not going to view things
to say purple at best. Maybe, well, let's do this
by comparison.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Here in Florida, where we have an office, you have
a perpetual realm of hurricanes that are natural disasters that
are now baked into the mindset of the people who
choose to stay in Florida. And what's happened is people
are leaving the coastlines of Florida in high risk properties
because they can't get insurance, so they're moving inland. But
(05:05):
their people are not abandoning Florida. Now there are fewer
people coming in, which is really great news for the
people of Florida because they've got plenty of people. They're
now the third largest state in the country. But the
difference is one group accepts the reality that there's disasters
that are a part of a climate that they live
in and aggressively moves to mitigate against them and to
(05:25):
figure out how to live with the problem. And they're
they're fighting their way through. But in California, they will
abandoned because you've got one state that's based on political
incompetence and one party dominance and really thoughtlessness, and another
state where people are trying to solve problems. Doesn't make
Florida a better place than California. It's just a different
place and you have different results. Michael Rappaport, the actor, said,
(05:48):
are you kidding me? You want to make our state
trump proof when you should be making it fireproof, you know.
And I always bring up that there was a British
accent guy that used to fill and for rush all
the time. And I can't remember his name to save
my life right now. Mar Mark segn Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
And he was also in the Social Network, which was
the Mark Zuckerberg story, and he played the president of
Harvard University when the Winklevoss twins came in to make
their appeal, and they had memorized this thing in the
Harvard Code of Conduct, and he says, and you were
doing this when you should have been doing what It's
a great line. And for everyone in California, you know,
(06:27):
you get dry conditions. You know, you get Santa Ana wins.
You know, you lose hundreds of acres, if not thousands
of acres in these fires, and you let reservoirs go empty.
You didn't do any kind of changes to electrical wiring
systems or to forestry to get rid of fire hazards
and I think everybody's looking at that and having a debate.
And then yesterday, while everything is still on fire, while
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people are with twenty one thousand structures, business and homes lost,
their life, work lost, all their processions lost, and you're
passing fifteen million dollars to be trump proof. I mean there,
you always use expression read the room, and I use
expression tone deafness.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
This is, this is breathtaking.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I don't know that. I don't know that you can
come up with any case in recent history this bad.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Well, it's interesting, Michael, because every part of our country,
every region of our country, has life threatening natural disaster challenges.
The question is when politics becomes so much about parties
and power and not about problem solving, you end up
in a situation where you get caught. And that's what
California has been getting caught in a series of these
(07:35):
types of situations, and.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
They've only gone and tacked farther and farther and farther
to the extreme.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Now where we're going to see this play out the most?
Isn't it an anti incumbent fervor it's in an anti
party ferver.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Well, you know you hate that I make predictions, but
you know, I said, ahead, I know this one. Well, yeah,
I mean I said one or both parties have becne
by the end of the decade. I think for the Republicans,
we're now halfway through the decade, so the view gets
I said this at the turn of the decade, but
you know we're halfway through now. That may be the
Republican Party gone in terms of it has morphed into
(08:09):
trump Ism, which is warped into Americanism. All right, So
in an essence as a partisan party, it may have
shifted and gone. But you know, the Democrat Party's been
at war with itself. There's a civil war in the
party with the Justice Democrats, and they don't target Republicans.
Their first goal, like AOC is the greatest example, and
they brag about it online. They picked this bartender to
(08:30):
take down a ten term Democrat member of Congress because
why they want to take over the party first, Then
they want to eliminate the electoral college. Then they want
to dismantle the republic But their first step is to
take over the party. But this kind of inept leadership,
or what I would call poor passion and focus, if
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you can't get the fundamentals of what government should be doing. Right,
you don't have the luxury of DEI you know, the
luxury of men playing women's sports, and some of these
other silly arguments when you can't keep the state. I mean,
this is obviously an out of control fire still in
southern California, but this is a statewide political fire. And
I don't think we know what the state politically is
going to look like once the fire's out. That's a
(09:15):
great we don't. It is very good.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Now you can go one of two ways. People can't
survive in cash, so they it we'll either move toward
authoritarianism and it'll get worse, or they'll basically start over
again and to return to first principles of civil liberty
and personal responsibility. The choices haven't changed any in about
three hundred years. So this is what they the same question.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Second largest city, fourth largest city. I can go through
the major markets in California and the largest populoist state.
I mean, you lose. There was a time Florida was blue.
There was a time Florida was a swing state. Florida's
now solid red. You lose California, What do you got?
I mean, there's a lot online for the Democrats. You
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think they play it smarter than this. Well, see here's
the difference.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
And you know this, And it's an important way to
discuss that, I think for others that perhaps are just
in the process of discovery that.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
There is no Democrat party.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
The Democrat Party has been hollowed out over the last
twenty years by the billionaire's club of the progressive movement.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
And they pay the bills.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
So if you want to be a Democrat and you
want to make a living, you do what Sorows and
Company and put Esta in Company tell you to do.
That's the only pathway of the future. Kamala Harris is
a perfect example. That's the only way up into their system.
And everybody else, like labor unions and all these other
folks at teachers unions, they're.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Just window dressing.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
And the party no longer exists, and nor does its
narratives exist or the people that provide those narratives at
the cabal table. To the Washington Post Web traffic stats,
we go in Our continuing coverage of the Florida of
the California fires continues with our DZ conversation.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
It's your Morning Show, Michael del Choano.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
This is your morning show, and we're having our weekly
visit with David Zanati from the American Policy Roundtable most
of the Public Square heard on two hundred stations and
presides over I voters. David, just to kind of put
a nutshell the previous segment and the podcast is there
if you missed it. Something with everybody watching the inept
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leadership in California, something's brewing. Is this going to lead
to a wave of a further exodus or a reshaping
of the political landscape purple at best in the future
You think time will tell too soon to tell.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
And of course for this to change, there's got to
be a group of people stand up and say we
want to lead in California. And that usually is after
the exodus. So the next several years are going to
be pretty shaky. Oh to god, they don't get hit
with an earthquake out there.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Our sound of the day was the owner of the
Los Angeles Times and he's apologizing for endorsing the mayor
and then he talks about, you know, it really is
time to stop being so partisan. In fact, it might
be time to move away from politicians altogether and get
real business leaders. Real leaders who have controlled the payroll
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and wrote checks. Because politicians are good at getting elected,
but they're not good at governing once they're elected. Very profound.
That's from the La Times. Meanwhile, on the same day,
the Washington Post announces that the story breaks. The Washington
Post web traffic takes a nosedive since twenty twenty one,
a ninety percent digital readership decline. That's breathtaking to me
(12:41):
in three years. And I think that might be death
of journalism plus social dilemma plus COVID plus Trump derangement
syndhom But ninety percent. The outlet owned by Jeff Bezos,
had around twenty two and a half million daily active
(13:02):
users in twenty twenty one. It's down to two and
a half million. That's just the and we talked death
of journalism, decomposition of journalism. That's breathtaking. And of course
there's also technology shifts. But what do you make of
those numbers? Well, Waypoe made their technology shifts. This is
post the shifts. They've made, all their changes, and there's
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you know, they were soaring and boasting of their extraordinary
compensation and their new way, and then they fell flat
on their face.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
I think, I look, I look at I read the
way Washington Post every day, and I got other people
on our staff that do the same thing. At the
American Policy Around Table. We tracked the Washington Post, we
tracked the LA Times, we track's panting on the hill.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
We have to.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
It's what we do in the public policy business. The
bottom line is, you know, stupid is as stupid does,
and stupid should hurt. And when you get as far
out on a limb as some of these major publications
and media outlets have become, I mean, you were so
far removed from reality, and you've got so many other
people paying your bills from the corporate industrial world that
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are unaccountable to people who actually click, read, purchase, subscribe,
you end up for a big awakening.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
And that's what's happened.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
So we just had an election where I think they
tried to play the same playbook, only hiding Kamala Harris
in full sight the way they hit Joe Biden in
a basement, and it failed because they don't control the
narrative anymore, and they don't control the ability to silence
any opposing views because Elon Musk bought Twitter and made
(14:38):
it X but you know, so we talked about death.
The journalism couldn't control the narrative, didn't have any influence.
In fact, you could win an election being on Joe
Rogan or Megan Kelly or Tuck o'carlson rather than being
in any of these newspapers no matter what they do,
trying to sell a narrative over covering a story. When
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you look back at these numbers, Dave, and you go, well,
I guess so they didn't have any influence. There's nobody reading.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Yeah, not to be surprising, because it just look I mean,
you can only handle so much stupid, and there's just
a lot of stuff that's going out there that's just
Michael is just not connected to reality.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Not the future. The present belongs to podcasting, digital and
quite frankly about to be banned TikTok for anybody under thirty.
That can't be emphasized enough. I mean, I'm not a
big fan of some people, but you know, there's one
in particular I'm not a big fan of who has
effectively reached young people on TikTok and that's where they're
(15:37):
getting their political influence, and thank goodness, it's you know,
one that shares my worldview. But come on, I mean
that it's dead. I mean, what's the future for the
Washington Post, what's the future for the Atlantic? What's the future?
It went the way of Talk America.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Well, you know, I went recently to a stage present
of The Screwtape Letters by cs Liss, and one of
the most important lines in the entire book and in
the entire play is simply this.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
The road to the best path to health is the
gradual one.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Every time these guys get way out over their skis
reality catch us up with them.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
And then people wake up and say, what were we thinking?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
And then the people who made all the money profiteering
off on the illusion go running off into the weeds.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I think that's happening right before our eyes. Mort with
Davidson Notai from the American Pound Policy Roundtable, host of
The Public Square, also one of the hosts of eighteen
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It's also on the iHeart App.
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Speaker 4 (17:47):
Word of mouth if.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
You're just waking up. The former First Lady Michelle Obama
will not attend the inauguration, as she did not attend
the funeral of Jimmy Carter. TikTok denies it's considering selling
billionaire Elon Musk. It was quite the partisan, really kind
of feeble, ridiculous attacks on Pete. He sat yesterday, He
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rose above them and shine brightly enough for Joni Ernst
to change her mind. She will now support his confirmation.
That all but ensures his confirmation and the death toll
in Los Angeles wildfires has risen by one to twenty five.
Southern California officials say the next twenty four hours will
be very dangerous as very very high windster kicking up
(18:29):
once again today. Containment wise, the Palisades is at eighteen
percent containment. They Eaton is at thirty five percent containment.
Did a good job with new fires yesterday, but containment
on these two big fires still seemingly a long way away.
And we're just kind of talking about everybody, you know,
in a really you know, there's two different worlds going on.
(18:50):
Everybody who doesn't live in California watching this and certainly
having a lot of opinions about their election of duty
and the neptness and leadership, but that's being felt in
California as well. And then you add to that. Yesterday
the focus of the Democrats and the legislature in Sacramento
was fifty million dollars to trump proof the state, half
(19:12):
of which twenty five million will go to blocking any
immigration enforcement or deportation. It's a tone deafness of epic proportion.
Michael Rappaport, the actor probably wrapped it up and summarized
it best in blasting Governor Newsom, saying you're trying to
(19:35):
trump proof the state when we should be fireproofing. It's
just been miserable and not reading the room very well,
which led to our visit with David Soonddy So, David,
here's something interesting. In addition, we went over those numbers.
Nobody reads newspapers anymore in paper form. And I used
to always say to people, yeah, but you're you're still
(19:57):
reading them because most of the stuff that you're reading
online and sharing is coming from newsaver. Well, then they
had to get aggressive, and now people got to pay
for it, and they're not willing to pay for it.
But I don't even think in my wildest dreams, I
would have ever said digital readership of the Washington Post
is down ninety percent and down to two million we
(20:19):
saw this with these cable primetime shows. I made to
comment to you off the air. I remember you kind
of we were taken back by it. But I was like,
you know, some of these networks, they don't have the
ratings I had in Tulsa, Oklahoma in nineteen ninety five.
I mean, I don't even know how they're paying all
these salaries for all these big egos and nobody's watching.
(20:42):
And now from Megan Kelly to Tucker Carlson, they proved
you're better off leaving. Glenn Beck may have been first
Sean Hannity, maybe next, I don't know, but I mean
ninety percent. Where's the business model? Well, there is no
business model. It's just like, let's go back. Sorry, Michael,
It's just like, let's go back to California for a second.
(21:06):
At the bottom, I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give
you a chance to clear your throat for a second.
Thank you, because David gave me the disease i'm dying of, and.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
I'm accepting the blame. Right It's me.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
It was a hug at Serato's Restaurant, which was a
great meal. It was worth the illness almost. That's how
good theirs steak is.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
California.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
The California.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Think about what you just said, what the news story
just was.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
While the whole country is watching these people suffer, the legislature,
which has been built up with the minions of the
sous progressive money and the Democrat Party is still busy
at work doing there. Let's reconstruct the world according to
the progressive agenda. There's just one problem with that agenda.
(21:55):
It doesn't work. It's really good until somebody gets punched
in the face or starts a fire. It just it
doesn't work that have a ruling class decide to do everything,
take sixty percent of your money and give you the
rest to go party, and.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Then for government to be the biggest participants.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
In gambling and drugs and legalization of all of this stuff.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Just let them eat cake.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
This is what they did to California because personal responsibility
disappeared for political enterprise and no focus on earthquakes, no
focus on moth slides, no focus on filled reservoirs and
fire prevention, knowing you're going to have annual fires in
sant Ana wins.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
I think the dere election of duty to the priorities.
You know, we used to always talk about, you know,
what is the proper size and role of government. That's
a question that's never asked, let alone answered. What is
the role and the responsibility of the self governed? I mean,
when you're looking at a mayor, like what has been
demonstrated to the nation going on in Los Angeles. Her
number one responsibility is public safety. But what was she doing.
(22:57):
She was cutting the fire department. Well, if we dare,
we could take this to an even further level. What
this is all about is the philosophical movement for autonomy,
which is dependent upon the idea that you can create
a utopian world because bad stuff just doesn't happen if
we wish it away. And that's the and every now
(23:22):
and then we get mugged by reality and somebody says, gee,
what were we.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Thinking or why weren't we thinking about this? Why didn't
we just do this and this and this for the
last three years and then sure there would have been
a fire, but we would have been ready because we're
busy chasing the utopian fantasies. And all of that comes
from a philosophical desire to be completely independent from reality,
which is that we live in a fallen world. And
bad stuff happens in the natural order, and the first
(23:50):
responsibility of government is for us to get together and
plan for the bad stuff, so when it happens, we're
not throwing political barbs at each other.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
We're solving the problem. Difference between response and reaction. Reaction
is for the unprepared, responses for the prepared. They certainly
should have been more prepared, all right, David Sinatti closing moments.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
By the way, Michael, nobody likes it when we talk
like this.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I know that, Oh well, I was just going to
get to the one plus one plus one doesn't always
equal just three. So you know, I want to come
full circle back to we went from a referendum election
in twenty sixteen and outsider election against incumbents to what
I think now is an anti politician movement. I don't
think anybody could say it better than the owner of
(24:40):
the La Times that you know, these professional politicians are
great at making themselves wealthy, but they're that great at
getting a condition for the people to prosper. They are
great at winning offices, they're not great at governing once
they're in them. Maybe we need to get away from
politicians and get to people who really control business and
get this, which could be the future of trump Ism
(25:03):
and the movement away. I want to I want to share.
Some of these numbers are nothing new, but it kind
of becomes what we saw with FEMA and North Carolina.
Now the fire here, the warfare against Trump and how
that backfired, the death of journalism now turning into decomposition,
the old fashioned Gallup poll of how we perceive professions
(25:26):
based on honesty and ethics. And as somebody did research
on my life, I can tell you don't look at
the in between. You want to look at the extremes.
So you want to look at the major positive and
the major negative. Notice post COVID, where doctors are I
can't even imagine if you asked CDC World Health Organization.
(25:49):
At the top of the list of major positive perceptions
of professions nurses, not doctors, grade school teachers, military officers.
Now you want to go to the extreme major negatives.
What was this always traditional? Lawyers used car salesmen, used
(26:11):
car salesmen, and members of Congress right now number one
on the list TV reporters. TV has lost its credibility.
Members of Congress is next, and then lobbyists there's people
couldn't describe what one is. Yeah, but there's damage at
(26:35):
an irreparable level. And I think people can see the
death of newspapers or the death of cable, US versus them,
titillate and scare and all that kind of fiery nonsense,
which kind of is what yesterday's hearings felt like. That
would have been business as usual four years ago. But
right now, fifty four percent of America are supportive of
(26:58):
Donald Trump's transition. They're hopeful and excited over sixty percent
about his presidency. They're playing I don't have a better
analogy than when Total pulled the curtain, and if you remember,
the wizard looks back. He knows he's exposed, but he
goes back for ten seconds and tries to keep doing
knobs and scare.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Of them, pay no attention to the right.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
You can't keep doing it, and yet they try, and
there's a business model for it. They're going bankrupt. I
don't know that, and I don't delighten anybody's misfortune. Radio
certainly might have some challenges in the future and could
be next if it's not careful. But some of this
harm is irreparable.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Right, I mean because it all comes down to a
single word, Michael, and that's trust. When you lose it,
it's often impossible to recover. And this is what's happened.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
What did I tell you? I said the CDC should
go away because those three letters will never have any
credibility in my mind. Again, the who the world healthy
ought to go away? Just create a new one. This
what you can? Yeah, repair this one. It's so damage.
Same could be said for news, same could be said
for newspapers. Could the same be said for partisan parties? Well,
(28:10):
and here's my warning. Forgive me, but it has to happen.
Beware the Senate over the next two years. There are
people hiding in the Senate that are philosophical progressives, regardless
of their party affiliation, and they will do everything they
can to make certain that Donald Trump does not succeed.
They won't necessarily set them to fail. They tried all that.
(28:34):
They just don't want them to succeed.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
And this is where people from the bottom up are
going to have to fight to restore trusted leadership.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
And that starts at the bottom.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Sure, because I'm sick, but also because it was necessary.
We went over time in our weekly visit with d Z.
Thanks so much for your time.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
David, This is your morning show with Michael del Tuono.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Thanks for waking up with your morning show fifty after
the hour. Right today, the confirmation hearings continue in the
Judiciary Committee Attorney General Pam Bondy, in Foreign Relations Committee,
Secretary of State Marco Rubio. We have the CIA Director
John Radcliffe, we have Secretary of Transportation Sean Duffy. There's
a lot of cover, but today looks to be clear sailing.
(29:23):
And as for yesterday's contentious hearing, Pete Hegseth really shined,
or at least shined enough for Jony Ernst to change
her mind and now pledges to support him. That's big.
Just a quick plug. I love my company. I know
(29:44):
that sounds like an act, but it's not. I've worked
for a bad one and that didn't support me, and
I've worked for a good one that does support me.
I love my company, And as I always say, we're
made up of people that really love their listeners, really
appreciate their advertisers. We have a very intimate relationship, and
that relationship has come together. There's been a lot of
fundraising done the American Red Cross Salvation Army and others.
(30:09):
iHeartRadio in California has teamed up with the Dream Center
and we have, with our collective stations and listeners, raised
over one point five million dollars in cash and over
two and a half million dollars in goods to help
those in need in southern California. And I just want
to applaud all of our stations in California. We're on
(30:32):
several of them and mostly our listeners. We live in
a very generous nation and keep that generosity coming. There's
people in great need. If you want to help, you
can go to the Dream Center online, or you can
just text the word relief to thirty three thirty one
real quickly. We always get the final story to Rory,
and I want to talk a little bit about the
FBI releasing new information on the terrorist attack in New
(30:55):
Orleans before we get to that. Containment and weather conditions
today for the suffering in southern California. What's the outlook.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
Yeah, the concern is that we might see new fire activity,
especially Ventura County, which is next to Los Angeles County.
So that's I think something that they're watching as we're
seeing winds thirty forty fifty miles per hour, steady gusting
even higher in some spots. The wind field isn't as
large as it was when this all began about a
week ago, but still obviously something to watch, and there
(31:27):
is better weather around the corner. Stuff will start to
improve today. Tomorrow's a bit of a transition day, but
we're going to see increasing humidity, lower wind speeds.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
On Friday and Saturday, death toll rose by one to
twenty five and again in the Eton fire in general,
is where the majority of these desks are coming. Do
we have any idea how because we keep following the
not accounted for list, this is a number that will rise, right, Yeah,
I think we still have about thirty who are listed
(31:59):
as missing. So it's a painstaking investigation.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
As some of these firefighters, I was going to say
going door to door, but the doors are don't exist anymore,
so they go from home site to home site, going
through the rubble to make sure there's no one there.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Well, the favorable conditions tomorrow will be helpful, all right,
let's make the transition. FBI releasing new information about the
New Orleans Day attack. What do we know?
Speaker 6 (32:24):
Yeah, two weeks after the attack. Just some incremental information.
They say that fifty seven people were actually injured during
the attack that happened in the early hours of New
Year's Day. They had said thirty five were in the hospital,
but overall fifty seven injured. Of course, fourteen people were killed,
plus the person responsible who died in that shootout with police.
(32:46):
They say it appears the suspects started to become radicalized
back in twenty twenty two, really went off the deep end,
it seems in the spring of last year, and it
made multiple trips to New Orleans, even tried to get
a room with a balcony over Bourbon Street, which may
be a red flag there and may have been more
immediately influenced by the Christmas market attack in Germany that
(33:12):
happened ten days before.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
And there was also warnings issued yesterday about copycats in
the future. So I mean that kind of all ties
together in terms of the motive he seemed to have.
It was marital problems, right, and then ended up getting
divorced marital yeah, and then apparently got radicalized online, right.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
And now they want to know, now that they have
seen his digital fingerprints, they want to know who else
is interacting with some of these same sites, watching these
same videos, reading the same stuff to see if perhaps
they have similar thoughts, because these lone wolf actors are
are difficult to find until it's too late.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Yeah, and you know, I guess the only other wrinkle
that we don't you know, I don't know what you
would do with it, but he was doing some live
videos on social media prior to it. But you know,
how do you I mean, some of the stuff, how
do you prevent? Right? It probably would probably be best
(34:17):
coming from family members or those on social media that
are kind of monitoring these things. It's certainly a teachable moment.
But that's the very latest. Roley Good.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
They don't monitor them anymore on Facebook, right, they know
not anymore.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
I appreciate your reporting today, Rory. We'll talk again tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
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