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Speaker 3 (00:31):
This is your morning show with Michael o' gill Truman.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Well be meet Yeah who chimes in, Not so fast.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
We don't have a deal just yet, hamas has been
reniggy victory laps taken last night by President Biden, and
the whole deal seems to be on hold this morning.
Alania Trump says, not so fast, I ain't having tea
with Joe Biden, and President Alex says. Trump says that
not so fast. I'm considering an executive order that would
save TikTok from banning or I mean, it's like the
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warning on the side of the cigarette pack.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
You know it's dangerous, But we really like it.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
America seems too not ready to put national security before
what we like is a really fine app. I'm not
on there, I can't speak to it, but if it's
anything like Reels on Facebook, I get the addiction. And
we had a nice market, huge surge yesterday. I listen.
I'm not a financial expert. I just surround myself with them.
(01:28):
It sure looked like a correction to me. But huge
market gains right before Biden's farewell address.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Could they be linked?
Speaker 5 (01:35):
We ask our money was an economist David Bonson, who
joins us from New York.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Good morning, David, Good morning Michael. You know we often talk.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
About energy and how important that is to an economy
confronting high cost of living and inflation, which are not
necessarily the same thing. What about housing? That's really you know,
and no one's talking about it. It's kind of coming
up now as they're burning down in California. In fact,
I was talking to a colleague friend of mine, and
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our heart was just breaking, because you know who's going
to get hurt the most in this the teachers and
the firefighters themselves that own middle class housing. That's what's
going to become impossible even with insurance money to rebuild,
and they're almost going to be forced to leave. But
you and I have talked so much about housing, and
I wanted to just kind of revisit it today because
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it's still a central part of our dilemma. And I
don't know that anybody's addressing it head on as if
it's just going to fix itself, because it won't, will it.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
Well, it doesn't fix itself, but it also doesn't get
fixed by Washington, d C. And that was one of
the frustrations I had during the campaign, is that President
Trump said I'm going to just get so much housing built.
I'm going to fix aole thing, and I don't really
know what he can.
Speaker 7 (02:54):
Do to do that.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
And then Kamala Harris's plan was not just also equally
on health, but it was counter productive because she was
talking about doing something that would make it much worse,
which was subsidizing down payments for people, giving people money
to buy a house, which of course would would stimulate
demand without new supply and would be the exact opposite
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of what we need.
Speaker 7 (03:17):
And so I don't think there's a lot.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
Of serious people talking about it, and I don't and
I and I think it needs to be. But you know,
in a way it's in the sound company sarcastic, but
I'm not there was I think the fires are a
story about a national disaster and an absolutely.
Speaker 7 (03:33):
Awful human thing.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
But in the weeds of it, there was a line
or two or three on Meet the Press from Gavin
Newsom where apparently we do now know what needs to
be done to build new housing.
Speaker 7 (03:47):
And I've been saying it for years. But who am I?
But I heard the liberal governor in the liberal.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
State of California say it is words, not mine. I'm
going to ban all of the SIKA regulation, all of
the restrictions for getting permits, all of the environmental delays
and impediments the Coastal Commission. We're going to suspend all
that so people can rebuild quickly. You would say this
is new information, This is new information to me that
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he is aware, that he's aware those are the things
that get in the way of building housing.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
I don't think it's new information for his citizens, who
are probably thinking like, well, if you knew this was
the solution all along, why'd you wait for me to
lose everything to enact it.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
But but but that's a big part.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
But there's a there is competing agendas behind all of this.
You know that same governor, by the way, UH mentioned
how he's already been in contact with leaders in Hawaii
and these are issues of securing property uh and so
that it can't be bought up by speculators, and so
that you know, multi family housing can be built. You know,
(04:48):
the left does have an agenda that wants to get
away from single family living. They'd like us to live
in smaller places, never leave our neighborhood, shop in our neighborhood,
eating our neighborhood, walk in our neighborhood so you're not dry,
and leave our neighbor because they want to control every
aspect of where you go, how you get there, and
what you drive to get there, and hopefully tax every
aspect of it. That's still behind and you're talking about
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in the weeds, that's still a few layers in the
onion underneath this that people want to seize this crisis
to achieve different things for their agenda, not necessarily for
the people who are struggling. That may that arm wrestle
may play out too right, Well, I.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
Could I believe that the issue about low density and
high density is a market discussion.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
I think that there are.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Arguments to be made, not environmentally, which is what you
often hear from the left, but just in terms of
communities and whatnot. I personally, but again I say the
word personally because it's the important adverb here. I personally
enjoy a pedestrian lifestyle, and I enjoy my kids knowing
the name of the guy who makes their bagel and
the types of things. And I think help people that
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spend thirty to forty five minutes a day in the
car and park in their garage and don't ever talk
to their neighbors, you know, the preferences people have for
suburban versus urban living. This has been going on since
Madison and Jefferson and Hamilton.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
It's not new.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
What's new is that the Left has a certain environmental
agenda around some of it. But market forces always play
out in the end. It's just not going to change
that there is a demand for some multi family living
and there is a demand for more single family And
I personally don't know why any governor has an opinion.
Speaker 7 (06:36):
I do know why different people do.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
When I was twenty three years old, I might have
wanted an apartment with friends when I was, you know,
thirty three, I might want in a backyard with my
small kids or whatever the case may be.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
But I have never.
Speaker 6 (06:47):
Understood making an ideological issue out of personal preference of living.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Right, just don't get it. David Bnson's Our Money was
an economist joining us. All right, So let's cut to
the chase here. There's a lot of optimism with Donald
Trump coming in for the economy, for the border. What
is your view in terms of housing? What can people
expect as we make some corrective course measures, well housing
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correct with it. What's your forecast on housing and what
you're seeing.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
Well, what's funny is that we've spent most of our
adult lives and people think using the sentence what's our
view on housing talking about the prayer that house prices
are going to be going higher? The cults from the
right and the left has been this. It's been really
a boomer driven phenomena that good housing means high priced housing,
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and that seems to have suddenly changed where now I
think people are talking about it more in the context
of affordability and more in the context of adequate supply.
But again, there is not much at all related to
the Trump two point zero that us to do with
housing for me tax policy, trade policy, immigration, border, and energy.
Speaker 7 (07:58):
These are lower.
Speaker 6 (07:59):
Hanging fruit agenda items in Trump two point zero. Housing
is going to be significantly affected by FED policy, and
it's going to be significantly affected by state and local
local c activity.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
But see local.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
Then all of a sudden, now you're talking about local
meeting the people in the crowd at city council meetings,
because these are the worst culprits in America that every
time they say, I want to go build a new subdivision,
or we want to relax zoning, or we want to
build new this or that, and you get thirty people
to go talk to the city council meeting about know
why we don't need new houses build and so forth.
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So nimbiism not in my backyard ism is a big
problem in liberal Santa Monica, and it's a big problem
in conservative suburbs as well.
Speaker 7 (08:41):
I frankly have no tolerance for it.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
So if you're looking for a housing solution, it's going
to come at the local level, and it's going to
have to do with zonings, regulation, building more and people
not fighting that progress. Kind of like education. If you're
looking for the solutions to come from Washington. That's the problem,
not the solution. We need to get closer and to
the parent, the student, and the teacher. That's where victories
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are one and that's probably where the housing will be one.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Right, that's right.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
The only exception would be where the federal government can
get out of the way, like with education. You know,
I don't have any need for a Department of Education whatsoever.
But yeah, so the federal side could help by just
going away altogether. But yeah, I think that with housing
you have low hanging fruit state and local, and the
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states that are most damaged in this regard, it's even
more than city county. It's state, and Sacramento is a
part of the problem in California.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
The states that have.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
Done well in allowing new housing to get built, Tennessee
being one of them, North Carolina, Texas, Arizona, Florida. These
are obficely states that have generally a pretty pro market
approach to the subject.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
David Bohnson from the Bonson Financial Group, as always, it's
a pleasure. We'll talk to you next Thursday or sooner.
If conditions weren't have a great day, sir.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
It's your morning show with Michael Del Johno.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
There's this no better picture to paint for you than
the difference between what Joe Biden was trying to make
you think last night versus what you already think in
the polls. So the polls show him leaving with his
lowest approval rating, lowest favorability rating. This guy has been
a failure. So you have seventy plus percent of the
American people think we've had it in the wrong direction,
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Sixty percent do not have a favorable view of him,
and his approval rating is in the thirties. He leaves
at his lowest point. Donald Trump enters reborn and at
his highest level fifty percent. And somebody thinks that it's
a good idea to have this president give a farewell
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address to a nation that feels like good riddance.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
I mean, you fail.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
You know, we were sitting here off the arch about
who do we think wrote It doesn't matter, it's the
impossible speech. It's the impossible cell. And then when you
add the hypocrisy, the bitterness, and the oligarchy warnings. Oligarchy
is how he got there to begin with David Sinatis
joining us from the American Policy Roundtable and host of
(11:13):
the Public Square. I think Jesse Waters and we massaged
his quote and made it even better. We should send
it back to him. This is what the Democrat Party
looks like with no propaganda machine. It's the wizard and
the curtain's been opened. It's I mean from Pam Bondi
and heg Seth and the confirmation hearings to that farewell address.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Wow, they got problems.
Speaker 8 (11:36):
That is the best illustration that I've yet heard of'
been pondering this since I watched the speech.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
First off, I have to concede.
Speaker 8 (11:45):
I assumed it would be a nine o'clock speech, because
there are always nine o'clock speeches. Well, Joe's got to
get to bed. Yeah, but for the first time, Joe
decided he had to go to bed. Yeah, it was
seventh Central, eight eastern.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Yeah, so okay.
Speaker 8 (11:58):
I watched instantly the replay, which didn't change anything at all.
But since the time of watching that replay, I think
that's the best description. Pay no attention to the man
behind the curtain. More importantly, forget what you just saw
with your own eyes, right, and let me give you
one more importation of reality from the Mount Olympus, upon
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which I have the powerful oz dwell and explain to
you how because you're not listening to me, really bad
things are going to happen to you.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
No mention of the soul of America, which was merciful.
Speaker 8 (12:33):
He had a little soul in there. Oh yeah, you know,
it's just a little nye, but not the typical.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Now, what do narratives die?
Speaker 5 (12:38):
You redeemer? Narratives die of reality? This is this is
how out of how tone def and out of touch
they are with the American people. They're still trying to
and we saw this throughout the confirmation hearings. They're still
trying to do old narratives. They're still still trying to
fight old fights. They they just they just seem in disarray.
I mean I wanted to jump from of course, it
was a disastrous speech. Of course, it was riddled with
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bitter and hypocrisy, and the warnings were really confessions of
what they've been doing. So none of that was really
worth dissecting. But to get to jesse Waters accusation, this
is what the party looks like with no propaganda machine.
It looks bad and I don't know how they fix it. Well,
the propaganda machine this morning.
Speaker 8 (13:19):
Was trying to help Joe kind of makes sense out
of this, make it more dignified, more appreciative. But Michael,
what you just said is really important. This is one
more attempt of Joe Biden to explain to us some
terrible thing that's going to happen to you out there
after they've just done it. For the last five years,
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they have been an oligarchy. They started as an oligarchy.
They have operated in complete disarray or disrespect, disregard, and
in defiance of the entire concept of America. So when
the oligarchy was of an oligarchy.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
When the oligarchy and the rich is George Sorrows, you
give him a medal of freedom. If if it's Elon Musk,
you warn people it's going to be the end of democracy.
I mean, it's just it's nonsensical and nobody's buying it.
But I come back to this analogy. If you're at
a party that nobody wanted you to come to, and
you're at a party that everybody wishes you would leave,
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you don't give a big farewell speech.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
You just hit the door and shuffle off.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
I thought immediately when I was watching that of like Eisenhower,
a very popular president, a former general giving you a
warning of the industrial complex, compared to somebody who has
probably only risen to the presidency because of oligarchy, at
a shadow campaign warning you about the other side of oligarchy.
Speaker 8 (14:46):
It was just just just a disaster. Well, and it
goes past hypocrisy. We know, we know, in a world
of absolute relativism, which is the progressive world, you can't
have hypocrisy because truth changes every single day. But this
is the mo blatant it's ever been. I mean, now,
when we come back, I'm going to talk to you about.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
By the way, you're two weeks ahead of me in
this virus. You mean, I'm gonna still be coughing in
two weeks when we come back. I go to joke
to you about gave me the worst illness of my life,
and he just laughs and moves on.
Speaker 8 (15:21):
Go ahead, the entirety of this hypocrisy, all right, I know,
we gotta go come back. We've got to get down
to the root of what he means by institution.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
And you know it was worth it for the steak
and the hug, But man, this is some virus you've
given US.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
This is James from Greenwood, South Carolina, and my morning
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Speaker 5 (16:17):
I cherished these visits with David Snati. There are two
real big issues, Pam Bondi's performance yesterday in a confirmation
hearing and Joe Biden giving a farewell address to a
country that's already said good riddance. And I think you know,
we look back at the Jimmy Carter Malaise speech and
it brings a certain adjaa that only the Italians know
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what I mean, but a taste in our mouth. This
this is even so much below that it was the
impossible speech of a failed president, leaving one of the
one of the most amazing things that happen is they
will wake up the Bidens on Monday morning and somehow,
some way, and we all move know how taxing moving is,
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they will somehow pack all his stuff up, have it
going out the back door, while Donald Trump's stuff is
going in the front the other back door, and they
will make this transition of a house into a home
of a completely different person. The only thing that would
be symbolically appropriate is if by the time the Biden's
wake up, there's stuff's just down on the front lawn.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
I mean, they're just thrown out.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
D I mean, it's been a disastrous presidency coming to
a disastrous close, and last night's farewell speech that nobody
even wanted to hear in a spirit of good riddance,
it was a failure before it began, but it did begin,
and in thirteen minutes, David's not He's here to tell
you it had some really choice words and moments.
Speaker 8 (17:41):
It's amazing, Michael, that a person who was the spurious
front m HM for a cartel for five years finally
comes out of hiding to say goodbye.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
But the reality is he never showed up in the
first place. He was never here.
Speaker 8 (17:57):
This is the man who campaigned from his basement, the
man who was never well enough to be president, who
was certainly absurdly positioned last night. And if anything, the
legacy of Joe Biden is that he diminished the integrity
of the presidency of the presidency not just here but
across the world. America is in a much weaker position
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today because of what the people behind Joe Biden did
to secure massive, massive amounts of money for their cartel and.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Perhaps tried to anchor it in the illusion of his accomplishment.
Not Donald Trump's a very Reaganesque moment in eighty one.
The hostages will be released when he takes the oath
of office, and so he's doing this big victory lap
ignore all my failures, because today I'm bringing you a
ceasefire in the Middle East, which no one gives him
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credit for. Right after the invasion, they couldn't figure out
what side they were on. We talked for a year
about the Eye problem, the Israel problem. It was destroying them.
They were trying to to offset it with autonomy and
abortion and it just didn't play out. But it was
a disaster that they didn't want you to notice. And
try to predicate it on the anchor of we solve
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this problem and then we wake up this morning and
the deal's off. I mean, what a disaster. But you
you nit picked some words in this thirteen minute speech.
Speaker 8 (19:18):
Give us a couple just here's a brief paragraph, and
the President stated, a nation holding the torch are the
most powerful, sorry, Joe, the most powerful idea ever in
the history of the world. That all of us, all
of us are created equal, that all of us deserve
to be treated with dignity, justice, and fairness. That democracy
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must defend and be defined and be imposed, moved in
every way possible.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Wait a minute.
Speaker 8 (19:48):
That democracy must be must must defend, and be defined
and be imposed. How do you impose those democracy that's
based on the consent of the government.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
How do you do that? Well, they've turned democracy and
a weapons. But just for those that are listening that
you know, and you haven't been listening very long. Look,
it started with Barack Obama, where a democracy were democracy?
And I remember at first, I was going, we're not,
We're a republic. I say do that in public speaking,
and I would be shocked at how much of the
room and I'd have to remind them of the Pledge
of allegiance. They go, oh, you're right, We're not a democracy,
we're a republic, and they're two different things. You're funding
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fathers weren't interested in mob rule and a democracy, but
everybody just kind of started ignoring it, and then they shifted.
So they made you believe your republic was a democracy,
and then democracy became the Democrat party platform, and if
you opposed any of their candidates or any of their
worldviews or any of their policy views, you were an
enemy of the state. And there was nobody that was
more a signature person to single out than Donald Trump
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in the name of America first.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
So this is a game they've been playing.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
They've turned democracy into a weapon, a weapon then only
works against their enemies.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
And they've turned our government.
Speaker 8 (20:52):
Instead of it being an organic covenant among people based
on human behavior and accountability, they've turned it into quote
an institution. Don't dare touch the institution. Let me tell
you something. As far as January sixth goes, everything about
that was foolish. What we should do is we should
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take the capital and turn it into a museum and
move the Congress to Missouri right smack in the middle
of the country and let them get per diem expenses
as a salary for attending in office like we did
back in the day when Congress got started, and a stipend,
and then let's see who really wants to serve this country.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
People will say it's classic Barack Obama. It's actually classic Slolenski.
But whatever they're accusing their opponent of doing, yes, they're
confessing what they're doing.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
There was a lot of that in the Speed.
Speaker 8 (21:48):
We can't say that enough, Michael, we cannot say that enough.
Here's a man who a week earlier puts the Presidential
Medal of Freedom around the neck of the greatest oligarch
of the twenty first century, who's controlled the American political
process with dark money and and and.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Deep deep corruption.
Speaker 8 (22:05):
He gives him the Presidential of Metal Freedom, and then
he delivers the speech to be aware of the industrial
tech complex.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Why because suddenly they're on to you, Joe.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
That gets back to the brilliance of what Jesse Waters
is a doddering old man.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Yeah, isn't that.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
But there's no there's no audience. There's just no audience
for this narrative. And we saw that in the Pam
Dondie Pam Bondi confirmation hearings as well. Nobody's thinking about
Liz Cheney. Nobody tells you where they're going. It tells
you where they're going. And question I was gonna ask
you the question. Look, I don't think there was a
time we thought, Okay, they're gonna lay low.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
You even heard Obama's operative now her name is slipping me.
Speaker 7 (22:45):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
She was on MSNBC saying there, this is not going
to be an opposition.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Play No, it was the other one, Bil Donna Brazil. Yeah,
this is not going to be a resistance. Just give
him the questions.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Donna.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
Yeah, yeah, not going to be a resistance here, because
there's there's no room for that, which would suggest that
there are some that might think we lay low. We
let them have their presidency, we let them have their success,
and we know people will get lulled and they'll forget
our differences. Then we come back with somebody like a
Barack Obama could be the governor from Maryland who will
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say all the right things, look all the right ways,
and we can.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Get it back.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
I don't know that it's going to be that easy
for them. I don't think America is going to you know,
after the FEMA nightmare in North Carolina, the fire nightmare
that's on going in Los Angeles, and what we're seeing
in this confirmation hearing what we're seeing in these polling numbers,
what we saw in the results of the election.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
No, they're at a reinvention point. And I don't know.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
My question to you would be, what could they possibly
reinvent themselves too?
Speaker 4 (23:46):
This is what they're rooted in. For the last twenty years.
Speaker 8 (23:48):
They have built everything on envy and class warfare, on
tribalism and pitting people against one another. Now they're escaping
saying beware of all the people who do that, and
they've just done it. One of the reasons I love
the conversations on the show is what we talked about
about an hour ago with Bonsen. You know, one of
the big issues it's not being discussed whatsoever, that is
organic and from the bottom up that could change everything
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is if local governors and county commissioners and state legislators
and lawmakers decide they're going to start solving the housing crisis.
Because if people can suddenly get off of class envy
and get into the idea that I can have a
home of my own, that there's a better way to
go about this, that there is a real chance to
create wealth and personal freedom in this country. Then suddenly
the Democrat Party becomes irrelevant. But they only succeed on
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stagnation and bitterness. And that was the speech that we heard,
warning you about these terrible people and all that they're
saying to you, because they're ruffling the institution. In essence,
the Democrat message, the progressive messages, just go to sleep.
We got this, Just go play your distractions. Two minute
(24:54):
war will cover the real stuff. Two minute warning. Final
two minutes with David Snati. I want to turn to
Pambondi and look, I've seen a lot of really.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Horrific things in the last four years, a lot of
very troubling things for our time, for all time. And
there were moments I thought we might be losing it forever.
Nothing more alarming than the the political partisan weaponization of
our Justice Department. So I come at this from this angle.
There might be no more important person, if America is
(25:27):
awakening and seeing through this than Pam Bonding, the next
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Speaker 3 (27:01):
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Speaker 5 (27:08):
The narrative was set today who gets credit for the
ceasefire in the hostage exchange. Is it Donald Trump, who
said if those hostages aren't released by the time I
take office, all hell's going to break loose. Or Joe Biden,
who has been fumbling from the very beginning to try
to figure out which side he's on. Well, meanwhile, that's
all going on. The whole deal has already fallen through
this morning. The Israeli Prime Minister's office claims HAMAS is
(27:29):
backing out of some of its agreements in the hostage
release deal. The Palestinian militant group made a ceasefire and
hostage deal with Israel on Wednesday that would include HAMAS
releasing dozens of hostages in exchange for Palestinian prisoners. Today,
the Israeli Prime Minister releases a statement they've benigged on
the understandings. There's a last minute crisis in this agreement,
(27:51):
and the Israeli Cabinet will not even convene on this
issue until we see some changes. What are those changes?
Roy O'Neil is joining us Rory. My presumption is it
has to do with hostages. My suspicion all along is
they got a problem because most of these hostages are
not alive. It could be what has been the wrinkle
(28:14):
in this all along has come to the surface even
after everybody's taking a victory lap.
Speaker 9 (28:19):
Not so fast, right, Yeah, And Hamas has also said
they are not necessarily guaranteed to be able to locate
all of the hostages in this mix. And this really
is supposed to set off a series of different mile
posts along the way, goalposts along the way, because this
is not a one and done. This is really supposed
to kick off six weeks of much more intense negotiations
(28:41):
to find something more permanent. You know, this would be
the second cease fire since this conflict began back in
October of twenty twenty three.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
And you know, let's.
Speaker 9 (28:51):
See if this is just a speed bump or something
that derails this whole agreement.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
So when it comes to Israel, the Democrat Party is
very divided. There are those very quite frankly pro Palestinian
and those that are very pro Israel. And this has
been an eye problem, an Israel problem for this administration,
and that's why they struggled at the beginning. The President
came out immediately and said there's no distance between us
and Israel, and then he got some pressure from his
party and then they try to play it both ways.
(29:16):
It is interesting that as he leaves office on the evening,
he takes credit and then delivers his farewell address, that
this blows up in his face again because and I
think the wrinkle is to your point, they they're either
not alive and they know it and they're not alive
to turn over, or they really have lost track of them.
(29:37):
I don't think that they can comply with this. There's
some kind of a yeah. I mean, that's a problem
that can't be overcome until they come clean.
Speaker 9 (29:46):
Right and obviously, because in Israel, the hostage situation is paramount,
like they don't care about anything else but getting the
hostages returned sadly dead and alive, because they want the
bo He's back for proper burials according to their faith.
So they want these hostages return at any cost, which
(30:07):
has been one of the reasons that there's been a
lot of anger directed at Netanyahu among the Israelis.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
He was already unpopular going into this.
Speaker 9 (30:15):
Some have accused him of trying to drag it out
so he can hold on to power, and there have
been people taking to the streets for months now just saying,
just make a deal, get the hostages home.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
Well, it's a dance, and if you live in Israel,
it's a dance you're used to. They get emboldened, they
take in action, They carry out a terrorist attack, they
take hostages because that's their ticket to exiting. Israel pounds them,
and then eventually they release the hostages. Everybody lays low
for a decade until the next attack. And so that's
why I said, my trouble with this one is I
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don't think these hostages are alive, and this is going
to be a real problem in order achieving and it's
already blown up overnight. All right, I'm looking at the
Palisades fire. It's at twenty one percent containment. I believe
yesterday was eighteen percent. The Eating fire is at forty
five percent containment. I believe it was at forty two percent.
We've got favorable weather conditions for the next three to
(31:12):
four days and then they get bad again in five.
They got to make remarkable progress in these three or
four days, right, Yeah, they really do.
Speaker 9 (31:19):
And the fact that they made progress in the past
twenty four hours is pretty remarkable considering the winds were
supposed to undo a lot of the progress that they
had been making so far. So we've got increasing humidity
winds coming off the ocean now in the next few days.
That's going to keep things cool and a bit more
moist in the air, and the chance of some showers
(31:39):
developing slight chance, but still it's there. So yeah, to
your point, with all the help that's in from Mexico
and Canada and I think thirty plus other states, this
is when they've got to pounds and get a handle
on this because those winds are going to be back
early next week.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
TikTok says we're shutting down America Sunday. Meanwhile, President elect
Donald Trump says, I'm going to use an executive order
that'll save TikTok from ban or sale. Congress of course
has to say, but this would cause a delay. You know,
I can't come up with a better analogy, rory than
and I'm not a TikTok user, my kids are. But
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it's like the warning on the cigarette pack. We all
know the danger, we want to smoke, we like it.
I don't know what's going on with this. Well how
much do big tobacco have to pay?
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Right? You know, that's the other shoe there. But look,
it is also this data.
Speaker 9 (32:33):
Going to the Chinese government, you know, and twelve thirteen
year olds are using this, maybe not smart enough to
understand the label on the cigarettes and what it could
mean for their long term future, you know, if they
want a career in the CIA. Well, the China's got
a full dossier of what they've been up to, you know,
from the time they were twelve to the time they
were twenty two.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
So the really question of the hour is an incoming
president saying I'm going to do an executive order and
then he has control of the Congress with his party,
are they going to pursue fighting that because he knows
he's already got the I mean, they would know they
have the court on their side. This has gotten really crazy.
So bottom line is, is TikTok going away? My kids
are worried every day. Is TikTok going away? I don't know,
(33:14):
not telling away? Yeah, it's not going away.
Speaker 9 (33:16):
All they're going to do is you can't download a
new version of it starting on Sunday. If this passes,
We're still waiting on the Supreme Court to rule here.
They've got the case to decide whether or not this
whole thing is constitutional.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
But the app does not go away.
Speaker 9 (33:29):
It simply won't be supported, so it'll sort of wither
and die on the vine instead. And then we've also
gotten word now that the President of TikTok is getting
a good seat at the inauguration. So clearly the administration,
the incoming administration is on TikTok side, which is a bit.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Of a reversal, and probably the.
Speaker 9 (33:46):
New Secretary of State isn't so happy about that.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
Roy O'Neil as always great reporting. We'll talk again tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
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Speaker 4 (00:36):
Well be meet Yeah who chimes in, Not so fast.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
We don't have a deal just yet, hamas has been
reniggy victory laps taken last night by President Biden, and
the whole deal seems to be on hold this morning.
Alania Trump says, not so fast, I ain't having tea
with Joe Biden, and President Alex says. Trump says that
not so fast. I'm considering an executive order that would
save TikTok from banning or I mean, it's like the
(01:01):
warning on the side of the cigarette pack.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
You know it's dangerous, But we really like it.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
America seems too not ready to put national security before
what we like is a really fine app. I'm not
on there, I can't speak to it, but if it's
anything like Reels on Facebook, I get the addiction. And
we had a nice market, huge surge yesterday. I listen.
I'm not a financial expert. I just surround myself with them.
(01:28):
It sure looked like a correction to me. But huge
market gains right before Biden's farewell address.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Could they be linked?
Speaker 5 (01:35):
We ask our money was an economist David Bonson, who
joins us from New York.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Good morning, David, Good morning Michael. You know we often talk.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
About energy and how important that is to an economy
confronting high cost of living and inflation, which are not
necessarily the same thing. What about housing? That's really you know,
and no one's talking about it. It's kind of coming
up now as they're burning down in California. In fact,
I was talking to a colleague friend of mine, and
(02:06):
our heart was just breaking, because you know who's going
to get hurt the most in this the teachers and
the firefighters themselves that own middle class housing. That's what's
going to become impossible even with insurance money to rebuild,
and they're almost going to be forced to leave. But
you and I have talked so much about housing, and
I wanted to just kind of revisit it today because
(02:27):
it's still a central part of our dilemma. And I
don't know that anybody's addressing it head on as if
it's just going to fix itself, because it won't, will it.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
Well, it doesn't fix itself, but it also doesn't get
fixed by Washington, d C. And that was one of
the frustrations I had during the campaign, is that President
Trump said I'm going to just get so much housing built.
I'm going to fix aole thing, and I don't really
know what he can.
Speaker 7 (02:54):
Do to do that.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
And then Kamala Harris's plan was not just also equally
on health, but it was counter productive because she was
talking about doing something that would make it much worse,
which was subsidizing down payments for people, giving people money
to buy a house, which of course would would stimulate
demand without new supply and would be the exact opposite
(03:16):
of what we need.
Speaker 7 (03:17):
And so I don't think there's a lot.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
Of serious people talking about it, and I don't and
I and I think it needs to be. But you know,
in a way it's in the sound company sarcastic, but
I'm not there was I think the fires are a
story about a national disaster and an absolutely.
Speaker 7 (03:33):
Awful human thing.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
But in the weeds of it, there was a line
or two or three on Meet the Press from Gavin
Newsom where apparently we do now know what needs to
be done to build new housing.
Speaker 7 (03:47):
And I've been saying it for years. But who am I?
But I heard the liberal governor in the liberal.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
State of California say it is words, not mine. I'm
going to ban all of the SIKA regulation, all of
the restrictions for getting permits, all of the environmental delays
and impediments the Coastal Commission. We're going to suspend all
that so people can rebuild quickly. You would say this
is new information, This is new information to me that
(04:13):
he is aware, that he's aware those are the things
that get in the way of building housing.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
I don't think it's new information for his citizens, who
are probably thinking like, well, if you knew this was
the solution all along, why'd you wait for me to
lose everything to enact it.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
But but but that's a big part.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
But there's a there is competing agendas behind all of this.
You know that same governor, by the way, UH mentioned
how he's already been in contact with leaders in Hawaii
and these are issues of securing property uh and so
that it can't be bought up by speculators, and so
that you know, multi family housing can be built. You know,
(04:48):
the left does have an agenda that wants to get
away from single family living. They'd like us to live
in smaller places, never leave our neighborhood, shop in our neighborhood,
eating our neighborhood, walk in our neighborhood so you're not dry,
and leave our neighbor because they want to control every
aspect of where you go, how you get there, and
what you drive to get there, and hopefully tax every
aspect of it. That's still behind and you're talking about
(05:10):
in the weeds, that's still a few layers in the
onion underneath this that people want to seize this crisis
to achieve different things for their agenda, not necessarily for
the people who are struggling. That may that arm wrestle
may play out too right, Well, I.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
Could I believe that the issue about low density and
high density is a market discussion.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
I think that there are.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Arguments to be made, not environmentally, which is what you
often hear from the left, but just in terms of
communities and whatnot. I personally, but again I say the
word personally because it's the important adverb here. I personally
enjoy a pedestrian lifestyle, and I enjoy my kids knowing
the name of the guy who makes their bagel and
the types of things. And I think help people that
(06:01):
spend thirty to forty five minutes a day in the
car and park in their garage and don't ever talk
to their neighbors, you know, the preferences people have for
suburban versus urban living. This has been going on since
Madison and Jefferson and Hamilton.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
It's not new.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
What's new is that the Left has a certain environmental
agenda around some of it. But market forces always play
out in the end. It's just not going to change
that there is a demand for some multi family living
and there is a demand for more single family And
I personally don't know why any governor has an opinion.
Speaker 7 (06:36):
I do know why different people do.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
When I was twenty three years old, I might have
wanted an apartment with friends when I was, you know,
thirty three, I might want in a backyard with my
small kids or whatever the case may be.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
But I have never.
Speaker 6 (06:47):
Understood making an ideological issue out of personal preference of living.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Right, just don't get it. David Bnson's Our Money was
an economist joining us. All right, So let's cut to
the chase here. There's a lot of optimism with Donald
Trump coming in for the economy, for the border. What
is your view in terms of housing? What can people
expect as we make some corrective course measures, well housing
(07:13):
correct with it. What's your forecast on housing and what
you're seeing.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
Well, what's funny is that we've spent most of our
adult lives and people think using the sentence what's our
view on housing talking about the prayer that house prices
are going to be going higher? The cults from the
right and the left has been this. It's been really
a boomer driven phenomena that good housing means high priced housing,
(07:38):
and that seems to have suddenly changed where now I
think people are talking about it more in the context
of affordability and more in the context of adequate supply.
But again, there is not much at all related to
the Trump two point zero that us to do with
housing for me tax policy, trade policy, immigration, border, and energy.
Speaker 7 (07:58):
These are lower.
Speaker 6 (07:59):
Hanging fruit agenda items in Trump two point zero. Housing
is going to be significantly affected by FED policy, and
it's going to be significantly affected by state and local
local c activity.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
But see local.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
Then all of a sudden, now you're talking about local
meeting the people in the crowd at city council meetings,
because these are the worst culprits in America that every
time they say, I want to go build a new subdivision,
or we want to relax zoning, or we want to
build new this or that, and you get thirty people
to go talk to the city council meeting about know
why we don't need new houses build and so forth.
(08:32):
So nimbiism not in my backyard ism is a big
problem in liberal Santa Monica, and it's a big problem
in conservative suburbs as well.
Speaker 7 (08:41):
I frankly have no tolerance for it.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
So if you're looking for a housing solution, it's going
to come at the local level, and it's going to
have to do with zonings, regulation, building more and people
not fighting that progress. Kind of like education. If you're
looking for the solutions to come from Washington. That's the problem,
not the solution. We need to get closer and to
the parent, the student, and the teacher. That's where victories
(09:03):
are one and that's probably where the housing will be one.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Right, that's right.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
The only exception would be where the federal government can
get out of the way, like with education. You know,
I don't have any need for a Department of Education whatsoever.
But yeah, so the federal side could help by just
going away altogether. But yeah, I think that with housing
you have low hanging fruit state and local, and the
(09:28):
states that are most damaged in this regard, it's even
more than city county. It's state, and Sacramento is a
part of the problem in California.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
The states that have.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
Done well in allowing new housing to get built, Tennessee
being one of them, North Carolina, Texas, Arizona, Florida. These
are obficely states that have generally a pretty pro market
approach to the subject.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
David Bohnson from the Bonson Financial Group, as always, it's
a pleasure. We'll talk to you next Thursday or sooner.
If conditions weren't have a great day, sir.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
It's your morning show with Michael Del Johno.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
There's this no better picture to paint for you than
the difference between what Joe Biden was trying to make
you think last night versus what you already think in
the polls. So the polls show him leaving with his
lowest approval rating, lowest favorability rating. This guy has been
a failure. So you have seventy plus percent of the
American people think we've had it in the wrong direction,
(10:24):
Sixty percent do not have a favorable view of him,
and his approval rating is in the thirties. He leaves
at his lowest point. Donald Trump enters reborn and at
his highest level fifty percent. And somebody thinks that it's
a good idea to have this president give a farewell
(10:44):
address to a nation that feels like good riddance.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
I mean, you fail.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
You know, we were sitting here off the arch about
who do we think wrote It doesn't matter, it's the
impossible speech. It's the impossible cell. And then when you
add the hypocrisy, the bitterness, and the oligarchy warnings. Oligarchy
is how he got there to begin with David Sinatis
joining us from the American Policy Roundtable and host of
(11:13):
the Public Square. I think Jesse Waters and we massaged
his quote and made it even better. We should send
it back to him. This is what the Democrat Party
looks like with no propaganda machine. It's the wizard and
the curtain's been opened. It's I mean from Pam Bondi
and heg Seth and the confirmation hearings to that farewell address.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Wow, they got problems.
Speaker 8 (11:36):
That is the best illustration that I've yet heard of'
been pondering this since I watched the speech.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
First off, I have to concede.
Speaker 8 (11:45):
I assumed it would be a nine o'clock speech, because
there are always nine o'clock speeches. Well, Joe's got to
get to bed. Yeah, but for the first time, Joe
decided he had to go to bed. Yeah, it was
seventh Central, eight eastern.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Yeah, so okay.
Speaker 8 (11:58):
I watched instantly the replay, which didn't change anything at all.
But since the time of watching that replay, I think
that's the best description. Pay no attention to the man
behind the curtain. More importantly, forget what you just saw
with your own eyes, right, and let me give you
one more importation of reality from the Mount Olympus, upon
(12:19):
which I have the powerful oz dwell and explain to
you how because you're not listening to me, really bad
things are going to happen to you.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
No mention of the soul of America, which was merciful.
Speaker 8 (12:33):
He had a little soul in there. Oh yeah, you know,
it's just a little nye, but not the typical.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Now, what do narratives die?
Speaker 5 (12:38):
You redeemer? Narratives die of reality? This is this is
how out of how tone def and out of touch
they are with the American people. They're still trying to
and we saw this throughout the confirmation hearings. They're still
trying to do old narratives. They're still still trying to
fight old fights. They they just they just seem in disarray.
I mean I wanted to jump from of course, it
was a disastrous speech. Of course, it was riddled with
(12:59):
bitter and hypocrisy, and the warnings were really confessions of
what they've been doing. So none of that was really
worth dissecting. But to get to jesse Waters accusation, this
is what the party looks like with no propaganda machine.
It looks bad and I don't know how they fix it. Well,
the propaganda machine this morning.
Speaker 8 (13:19):
Was trying to help Joe kind of makes sense out
of this, make it more dignified, more appreciative. But Michael,
what you just said is really important. This is one
more attempt of Joe Biden to explain to us some
terrible thing that's going to happen to you out there
after they've just done it. For the last five years,
(13:42):
they have been an oligarchy. They started as an oligarchy.
They have operated in complete disarray or disrespect, disregard, and
in defiance of the entire concept of America. So when
the oligarchy was of an oligarchy.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
When the oligarchy and the rich is George Sorrows, you
give him a medal of freedom. If if it's Elon Musk,
you warn people it's going to be the end of democracy.
I mean, it's just it's nonsensical and nobody's buying it.
But I come back to this analogy. If you're at
a party that nobody wanted you to come to, and
you're at a party that everybody wishes you would leave,
(14:19):
you don't give a big farewell speech.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
You just hit the door and shuffle off.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
I thought immediately when I was watching that of like Eisenhower,
a very popular president, a former general giving you a
warning of the industrial complex, compared to somebody who has
probably only risen to the presidency because of oligarchy, at
a shadow campaign warning you about the other side of oligarchy.
Speaker 8 (14:46):
It was just just just a disaster. Well, and it
goes past hypocrisy. We know, we know, in a world
of absolute relativism, which is the progressive world, you can't
have hypocrisy because truth changes every single day. But this
is the mo blatant it's ever been. I mean, now,
when we come back, I'm going to talk to you about.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
By the way, you're two weeks ahead of me in
this virus. You mean, I'm gonna still be coughing in
two weeks when we come back. I go to joke
to you about gave me the worst illness of my life,
and he just laughs and moves on.
Speaker 8 (15:21):
Go ahead, the entirety of this hypocrisy, all right, I know,
we gotta go come back. We've got to get down
to the root of what he means by institution.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
And you know it was worth it for the steak
and the hug, But man, this is some virus you've
given US.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
This is James from Greenwood, South Carolina, and my morning
show is your Morning Show with Michael Dojorno.
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(16:16):
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Speaker 5 (16:17):
I cherished these visits with David Snati. There are two
real big issues, Pam Bondi's performance yesterday in a confirmation
hearing and Joe Biden giving a farewell address to a
country that's already said good riddance. And I think you know,
we look back at the Jimmy Carter Malaise speech and
it brings a certain adjaa that only the Italians know
(16:38):
what I mean, but a taste in our mouth. This
this is even so much below that it was the
impossible speech of a failed president, leaving one of the
one of the most amazing things that happen is they
will wake up the Bidens on Monday morning and somehow,
some way, and we all move know how taxing moving is,
(17:02):
they will somehow pack all his stuff up, have it
going out the back door, while Donald Trump's stuff is
going in the front the other back door, and they
will make this transition of a house into a home
of a completely different person. The only thing that would
be symbolically appropriate is if by the time the Biden's
wake up, there's stuff's just down on the front lawn.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
I mean, they're just thrown out.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
D I mean, it's been a disastrous presidency coming to
a disastrous close, and last night's farewell speech that nobody
even wanted to hear in a spirit of good riddance,
it was a failure before it began, but it did begin,
and in thirteen minutes, David's not He's here to tell
you it had some really choice words and moments.
Speaker 8 (17:41):
It's amazing, Michael, that a person who was the spurious
front m HM for a cartel for five years finally
comes out of hiding to say goodbye.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
But the reality is he never showed up in the
first place. He was never here.
Speaker 8 (17:57):
This is the man who campaigned from his basement, the
man who was never well enough to be president, who
was certainly absurdly positioned last night. And if anything, the
legacy of Joe Biden is that he diminished the integrity
of the presidency of the presidency not just here but
across the world. America is in a much weaker position
(18:20):
today because of what the people behind Joe Biden did
to secure massive, massive amounts of money for their cartel and.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Perhaps tried to anchor it in the illusion of his accomplishment.
Not Donald Trump's a very Reaganesque moment in eighty one.
The hostages will be released when he takes the oath
of office, and so he's doing this big victory lap
ignore all my failures, because today I'm bringing you a
ceasefire in the Middle East, which no one gives him
(18:49):
credit for. Right after the invasion, they couldn't figure out
what side they were on. We talked for a year
about the Eye problem, the Israel problem. It was destroying them.
They were trying to to offset it with autonomy and
abortion and it just didn't play out. But it was
a disaster that they didn't want you to notice. And
try to predicate it on the anchor of we solve
(19:10):
this problem and then we wake up this morning and
the deal's off. I mean, what a disaster. But you
you nit picked some words in this thirteen minute speech.
Speaker 8 (19:18):
Give us a couple just here's a brief paragraph, and
the President stated, a nation holding the torch are the
most powerful, sorry, Joe, the most powerful idea ever in
the history of the world. That all of us, all
of us are created equal, that all of us deserve
to be treated with dignity, justice, and fairness. That democracy
(19:41):
must defend and be defined and be imposed, moved in
every way possible.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Wait a minute.
Speaker 8 (19:48):
That democracy must be must must defend, and be defined
and be imposed. How do you impose those democracy that's
based on the consent of the government.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
How do you do that? Well, they've turned democracy and
a weapons. But just for those that are listening that
you know, and you haven't been listening very long. Look,
it started with Barack Obama, where a democracy were democracy?
And I remember at first, I was going, we're not,
We're a republic. I say do that in public speaking,
and I would be shocked at how much of the
room and I'd have to remind them of the Pledge
of allegiance. They go, oh, you're right, We're not a democracy,
we're a republic, and they're two different things. You're funding
(20:21):
fathers weren't interested in mob rule and a democracy, but
everybody just kind of started ignoring it, and then they shifted.
So they made you believe your republic was a democracy,
and then democracy became the Democrat party platform, and if
you opposed any of their candidates or any of their
worldviews or any of their policy views, you were an
enemy of the state. And there was nobody that was
more a signature person to single out than Donald Trump
(20:44):
in the name of America first.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
So this is a game they've been playing.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
They've turned democracy into a weapon, a weapon then only
works against their enemies.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
And they've turned our government.
Speaker 8 (20:52):
Instead of it being an organic covenant among people based
on human behavior and accountability, they've turned it into quote
an institution. Don't dare touch the institution. Let me tell
you something. As far as January sixth goes, everything about
that was foolish. What we should do is we should
(21:16):
take the capital and turn it into a museum and
move the Congress to Missouri right smack in the middle
of the country and let them get per diem expenses
as a salary for attending in office like we did
back in the day when Congress got started, and a stipend,
and then let's see who really wants to serve this country.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
People will say it's classic Barack Obama. It's actually classic Slolenski.
But whatever they're accusing their opponent of doing, yes, they're
confessing what they're doing.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
There was a lot of that in the Speed.
Speaker 8 (21:48):
We can't say that enough, Michael, we cannot say that enough.
Here's a man who a week earlier puts the Presidential
Medal of Freedom around the neck of the greatest oligarch
of the twenty first century, who's controlled the American political
process with dark money and and and.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Deep deep corruption.
Speaker 8 (22:05):
He gives him the Presidential of Metal Freedom, and then
he delivers the speech to be aware of the industrial
tech complex.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Why because suddenly they're on to you, Joe.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
That gets back to the brilliance of what Jesse Waters
is a doddering old man.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Yeah, isn't that.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
But there's no there's no audience. There's just no audience
for this narrative. And we saw that in the Pam
Dondie Pam Bondi confirmation hearings as well. Nobody's thinking about
Liz Cheney. Nobody tells you where they're going. It tells
you where they're going. And question I was gonna ask
you the question. Look, I don't think there was a
time we thought, Okay, they're gonna lay low.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
You even heard Obama's operative now her name is slipping me.
Speaker 7 (22:45):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
She was on MSNBC saying there, this is not going
to be an opposition.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Play No, it was the other one, Bil Donna Brazil. Yeah,
this is not going to be a resistance. Just give
him the questions.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Donna.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
Yeah, yeah, not going to be a resistance here, because
there's there's no room for that, which would suggest that
there are some that might think we lay low. We
let them have their presidency, we let them have their success,
and we know people will get lulled and they'll forget
our differences. Then we come back with somebody like a
Barack Obama could be the governor from Maryland who will
(23:20):
say all the right things, look all the right ways,
and we can.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Get it back.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
I don't know that it's going to be that easy
for them. I don't think America is going to you know,
after the FEMA nightmare in North Carolina, the fire nightmare
that's on going in Los Angeles, and what we're seeing
in this confirmation hearing what we're seeing in these polling numbers,
what we saw in the results of the election.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
No, they're at a reinvention point. And I don't know.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
My question to you would be, what could they possibly
reinvent themselves too?
Speaker 4 (23:46):
This is what they're rooted in. For the last twenty years.
Speaker 8 (23:48):
They have built everything on envy and class warfare, on
tribalism and pitting people against one another. Now they're escaping
saying beware of all the people who do that, and
they've just done it. One of the reasons I love
the conversations on the show is what we talked about
about an hour ago with Bonsen. You know, one of
the big issues it's not being discussed whatsoever, that is
organic and from the bottom up that could change everything
(24:10):
is if local governors and county commissioners and state legislators
and lawmakers decide they're going to start solving the housing crisis.
Because if people can suddenly get off of class envy
and get into the idea that I can have a
home of my own, that there's a better way to
go about this, that there is a real chance to
create wealth and personal freedom in this country. Then suddenly
the Democrat Party becomes irrelevant. But they only succeed on
(24:34):
stagnation and bitterness. And that was the speech that we heard,
warning you about these terrible people and all that they're
saying to you, because they're ruffling the institution. In essence,
the Democrat message, the progressive messages, just go to sleep.
We got this, Just go play your distractions. Two minute
(24:54):
war will cover the real stuff. Two minute warning. Final
two minutes with David Snati. I want to turn to
Pambondi and look, I've seen a lot of really.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Horrific things in the last four years, a lot of
very troubling things for our time, for all time. And
there were moments I thought we might be losing it forever.
Nothing more alarming than the the political partisan weaponization of
our Justice Department. So I come at this from this angle.
There might be no more important person, if America is
(25:27):
awakening and seeing through this than Pam Bonding, the next
Attorney General for our time and for all time. And
she may be just the right person for this because
the next four years will either be resurrecting or fatal.
Speaker 8 (25:45):
Because you can be more right, the next two years
determine the next twelve. It is possible that one of
these two parties will expire within the context of the
next two years, but certainly within the next twelve. It's
the one that fails in the next two years. If
people just sit waiting on Pirate Radio and Trump Incorporated
to fix everything, and they don't start fixing stuff themselves
(26:05):
at the bottom up, then the Democrats will prevail.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
If this ends up a Trump victorious second term, America fails,
if this becomes the beginning of ushering in of an
American revolution, the Democrat Party's debt.
Speaker 8 (26:24):
And the dark Lord will return if we don't do
what we have to do in the next two years.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
David's a regular, obviously our senior contributor. He's also the
co host of The Public Square I Believe the Diamond
Jewel of the American Policy Roundtable, heard on two hundred stations.
He also presides over ie voters dot Com and I
encourage you to listen to The Public Square or his
podcast eighteen fifty Main Street I Know eighteen fifty Main
Streets on the iHeart app I Think.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Is we're also yep, yeah, they're happy to be so
and happy to be so. So check out more.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Those of you that love David more than me, go
love him at eighteen fifty main Street dot com or
at the publicscore dot com and we'll talk soon, David.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Thank you. Nice guys.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
This is your morning show with Michael del Trono. You're
just waking up there.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
The narrative was set today who gets credit for the
ceasefire in the hostage exchange. Is it Donald Trump, who
said if those hostages aren't released by the time I
take office, all hell's going to break loose. Or Joe Biden,
who has been fumbling from the very beginning to try
to figure out which side he's on. Well, meanwhile, that's
all going on. The whole deal has already fallen through
this morning. The Israeli Prime Minister's office claims HAMAS is
(27:29):
backing out of some of its agreements in the hostage
release deal. The Palestinian militant group made a ceasefire and
hostage deal with Israel on Wednesday that would include HAMAS
releasing dozens of hostages in exchange for Palestinian prisoners. Today,
the Israeli Prime Minister releases a statement they've benigged on
the understandings. There's a last minute crisis in this agreement,
(27:51):
and the Israeli Cabinet will not even convene on this
issue until we see some changes. What are those changes?
Roy O'Neil is joining us Rory. My presumption is it
has to do with hostages. My suspicion all along is
they got a problem because most of these hostages are
not alive. It could be what has been the wrinkle
(28:14):
in this all along has come to the surface even
after everybody's taking a victory lap.
Speaker 9 (28:19):
Not so fast, right, Yeah, And Hamas has also said
they are not necessarily guaranteed to be able to locate
all of the hostages in this mix. And this really
is supposed to set off a series of different mile
posts along the way, goalposts along the way, because this
is not a one and done. This is really supposed
to kick off six weeks of much more intense negotiations
(28:41):
to find something more permanent. You know, this would be
the second cease fire since this conflict began back in
October of twenty twenty three.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
And you know, let's.
Speaker 9 (28:51):
See if this is just a speed bump or something
that derails this whole agreement.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
So when it comes to Israel, the Democrat Party is
very divided. There are those very quite frankly pro Palestinian
and those that are very pro Israel. And this has
been an eye problem, an Israel problem for this administration,
and that's why they struggled at the beginning. The President
came out immediately and said there's no distance between us
and Israel, and then he got some pressure from his
party and then they try to play it both ways.
(29:16):
It is interesting that as he leaves office on the evening,
he takes credit and then delivers his farewell address, that
this blows up in his face again because and I
think the wrinkle is to your point, they they're either
not alive and they know it and they're not alive
to turn over, or they really have lost track of them.
(29:37):
I don't think that they can comply with this. There's
some kind of a yeah. I mean, that's a problem
that can't be overcome until they come clean.
Speaker 9 (29:46):
Right and obviously, because in Israel, the hostage situation is paramount,
like they don't care about anything else but getting the
hostages returned sadly dead and alive, because they want the
bo He's back for proper burials according to their faith.
So they want these hostages return at any cost, which
(30:07):
has been one of the reasons that there's been a
lot of anger directed at Netanyahu among the Israelis.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
He was already unpopular going into this.
Speaker 9 (30:15):
Some have accused him of trying to drag it out
so he can hold on to power, and there have
been people taking to the streets for months now just saying,
just make a deal, get the hostages home.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
Well, it's a dance, and if you live in Israel,
it's a dance you're used to. They get emboldened, they
take in action, They carry out a terrorist attack, they
take hostages because that's their ticket to exiting. Israel pounds them,
and then eventually they release the hostages. Everybody lays low
for a decade until the next attack. And so that's
why I said, my trouble with this one is I
(30:48):
don't think these hostages are alive, and this is going
to be a real problem in order achieving and it's
already blown up overnight. All right, I'm looking at the
Palisades fire. It's at twenty one percent containment. I believe
yesterday was eighteen percent. The Eating fire is at forty
five percent containment. I believe it was at forty two percent.
We've got favorable weather conditions for the next three to
(31:12):
four days and then they get bad again in five.
They got to make remarkable progress in these three or
four days, right, Yeah, they really do.
Speaker 9 (31:19):
And the fact that they made progress in the past
twenty four hours is pretty remarkable considering the winds were
supposed to undo a lot of the progress that they
had been making so far. So we've got increasing humidity
winds coming off the ocean now in the next few days.
That's going to keep things cool and a bit more
moist in the air, and the chance of some showers
(31:39):
developing slight chance, but still it's there. So yeah, to
your point, with all the help that's in from Mexico
and Canada and I think thirty plus other states, this
is when they've got to pounds and get a handle
on this because those winds are going to be back
early next week.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
TikTok says we're shutting down America Sunday. Meanwhile, President elect
Donald Trump says, I'm going to use an executive order
that'll save TikTok from ban or sale. Congress of course
has to say, but this would cause a delay. You know,
I can't come up with a better analogy, rory than
and I'm not a TikTok user, my kids are. But
(32:17):
it's like the warning on the cigarette pack. We all
know the danger, we want to smoke, we like it.
I don't know what's going on with this. Well how
much do big tobacco have to pay?
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Right? You know, that's the other shoe there. But look,
it is also this data.
Speaker 9 (32:33):
Going to the Chinese government, you know, and twelve thirteen
year olds are using this, maybe not smart enough to
understand the label on the cigarettes and what it could
mean for their long term future, you know, if they
want a career in the CIA. Well, the China's got
a full dossier of what they've been up to, you know,
from the time they were twelve to the time they
were twenty two.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
So the really question of the hour is an incoming
president saying I'm going to do an executive order and
then he has control of the Congress with his party,
are they going to pursue fighting that because he knows
he's already got the I mean, they would know they
have the court on their side. This has gotten really crazy.
So bottom line is, is TikTok going away? My kids
are worried every day. Is TikTok going away? I don't know,
(33:14):
not telling away? Yeah, it's not going away.
Speaker 9 (33:16):
All they're going to do is you can't download a
new version of it starting on Sunday. If this passes,
We're still waiting on the Supreme Court to rule here.
They've got the case to decide whether or not this
whole thing is constitutional.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
But the app does not go away.
Speaker 9 (33:29):
It simply won't be supported, so it'll sort of wither
and die on the vine instead. And then we've also
gotten word now that the President of TikTok is getting
a good seat at the inauguration. So clearly the administration,
the incoming administration is on TikTok side, which is a bit.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Of a reversal, and probably the.
Speaker 9 (33:46):
New Secretary of State isn't so happy about that.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
Roy O'Neil as always great reporting. We'll talk again tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
We're all in this together. This is your Morning Show
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