January 29, 2025 • 34 mins
Elizabeth Warren is all for DOGE…We asked senior contributor Dave Zanotti, what’s up with that?
President Trump’s Press Secretary – Karoline Leavitt – held her first briefing and our White House Correspondent JON DECKER was there. Decker has worked with 17 Press Secretaries since he has been covering the White House and provides a review of her performance.
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, It's Michael.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Your morning show can be heard on great radio stations
across the country, like News Talk ninety two point one
and six hundred WREC in Memphis, Tennessee, or thirteen hundred
The Patriot in Tulsa, our Talk six fifty KSTE in Sacramento, California.
We invite you to listen live while you're getting ready
in the morning, and to take us along for the
drive to work. But as we always say, better late
than never. Thanks for joining us for the podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Well two three, starting your morning off right, A new
way of talk, a new way of understanding.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Because we're in the stage. This is your morning show
with Michael del.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
John seven minutes after the hour. Welcome to Wednesday, the
twenty ninth of January. You have our Lord twenty twenty
five on the Aaron streaming live on your iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
This is your morning show. I'm Michael.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Jeffrey's got control of the sound Reds. They're keeping an
eye on the content, and of course we can't have
your morning show without your voice. To the talkback line,
we go. Let's start in Iowa. Good morning, Michael. The
Mayorcis Police Chief of New Orleans announced today that they're
putting up these ballads again, except they mentioned they called
(01:09):
them iron spikes just weeks after the attack on Bourbon Street.
Just weeks, mind you, instead of within say, three days.
Must have been a crime scene then. Anyway, I have
a good day. She's another DEI higher. Well, now that's
going to work out. Yeah, well, I think you see
how it's working out, by the way they took him
down right before the attack two, which must have been
(01:32):
very convenient for the attacker.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Scott's listening in Nashville. Michael, is it a yetty? What
type of cup are you using for your coffee?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
You know, I'm so sorry you asked that question, Scott,
because I explored. I saw it was stainless steel. I
saw that you can't microwave it. I saw everything except
the make, and then when I tried to open it
up to read the make, I broke my lid. But
then I found out from David's to not even go
to true value and get replacement lids. I know, I'm
very sorry about my coffee cup broke, but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I presume it's YETI. Next up is Mike and Sacramento.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Well, this is Mike and Sacramento watching police shows where
they bounce around from city to city following crimes or
forty hours to follow a crime. When did Tolsa, Oklahoma
become such a crime spot that time?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
That old chestnut I was warning that that was coming
with a casino on every corner decades ago, and I
got run out of town for warning them of the
reality they're living. But roughly about fifteen years Perry listening
in Nashville.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Hey, Michael Perry again, I wonder how much college could
be cut if Trump shut down a liberal NVR.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Thank you, buddy, love your.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Show three hundred million AD in PBS and you get
to a billion.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
Youngstown never could understand how they know how many people
are watch gene TV or listening to the radio. Is
it how much signal strength is drawn or what.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Well, the signal strength is just the potential of how
far someone could listen. That's assuming that people are still
listening on amplitude modulation, frequency modulation AM or FM, or
whether they're watching you know, cable or streaming or satellite.
Those are all delivery system things. That's what's changed. Everything
is the delivery. The actual answer to the question is
(03:30):
for radio, they now and most markets use meter readings,
so you're wearing a meter, the meter picks up the signal.
Of course, everybody's got earbuds in now, so you don't
get credit for it. You know, in television, you know
monitors based on that. So I mean there's the way
they monitor those that are watching, regardless of what technology
they're using. But the case we were making is the
(03:52):
perception of people is if you have a show on Fox,
you're a big deal. You have a show on CNN,
you're a big deal. You're not anymore. Jake Tapper's audience
twenty five to fifty four is the exact same audience
I had in Tells, Oklahoma in nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Was our conversation. Now, there's two things.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
One that press room should reflect that, and two, you
need to change your perception to the new reality. Joe
Rogan is a much bigger deal. And if you have
to be under forty to realize that, well, it's what
allowed the Republicans to play chess while the Democrats were
still playing checkers. I asked David Sanadi here, I mean,
we're open to talk about anything. We would start with
(04:31):
that one, David, the press room, the announcement was made
by Caroline Levitt that the White House is going to
open the press room up to digital providers, meaning some
influencer on TikTok has more business being there than a
reporter for CBS because they're reaching more people, or Joe
Rogan or Megan Kelly or Tucker Carlson. Shouldn't that room
(04:51):
look different because the way we're watching and listening is
a lot different.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Certainly, certainly it should.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Speaking of Oklahoma, do you know that Enator Warren came
from Oklahoma, from Norman, Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Well, that's her native American roots, of course.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Yeah, so struggling, and we talked about We've talked about
her all night and even sending me stuff back and
forth about her jumping on Elon.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Musk seems to be getting the show today.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
Now Elizabeth Warren's beating them up because of dog and
saying that she's got much better suggestions than is. I
started looking at her ideas, and I'm looking back at Norman,
Oklahoma and her upbringing which was very very middle class.
I mean, she struggled, her she and her family struggle dramatically,
and I'm asking myself, when did her thinking become so
radicalized that now she is an East Coast Massachusetts left
(05:39):
wing progressive and is lecturing Elon Musk on how to
cut the budget, you know, which is basically how to
just surrender American to complete socialists.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Well, but I thought buried in that story that I
thought was the most interesting is yeah, she'll acknowledge all
the wasteful spending as she's done nothing about it, and
then she'll acknowledge it and wanted so that she can
prioritize her agenda and her worldview with.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
To me, with the part I couldn't get over.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Everything's the bait and switch.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
In other words, we'll pull out whatever we've got to
pull out.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
To put it where I want to put it exactly now.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
But what's interesting is that usually that mentality is something
that comes from the elitists who have got so much
money and so much inheritance and so many look people
who really don't have to work any longer for a
living ever in their lifestyle, dosn't change their guilt is
what usually drives them to socialism, because if not, they're
(06:37):
completely irrelevant, because they're just simply the ruling class of elites.
And that's that kind of hurts their feelings, so they've
got to convert into a sense of being becoming social
do gooters, and they'd rather do it with somebody else's money,
so they use the federal government, which is why we
have so many problems.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Or use their political position to go from a middle
class nothing existence to a twelve million dollar network.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, she's an interesting case though.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
She and the fact that she's been embraced and received
by that Massachusetts community as this middle class kid who
came up from Oklahoma's is very unusual.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Yeah. And she's just not a part of the Boston world.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
No, but she's a part of their worldview and their
agenda and they respond to that.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Wouldn't it be interesting to have the former senator, the
former former former former former.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Senator from Massachusetts, John Fitzgerald Kennedy the bet Elizabeth Warren today?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Well, it be unrecognizable.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I mean, that's why we started the show comparing the
two Carolines, Caroline Kennedy attacking her cousin, which I mean,
we did this whole long conversation people, and go to
the podcast, listen to the first hour. I live by
an old virtue, if you have nothing good to say,
I mean everything doesn't require I don't know. If somebody's
really heavy, they don't need me to walk by and
tell them they're fat.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
If you don't anything good to say, say nothing at all.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
If somebody's wearing something that looks, you know, in your mind,
like unfashionable or ugly, you don't have to tap on
the show and tell him. I don't know why everybody
feels like they have to have an opinion about everything,
or that their opinion really matters that much. I mean,
you're going to have senators drilling RFK today. Did he
really need his cousin to do it? And then what
is she being a pawn in a government that we
may find out killed her father and.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Her uncle and I it's just And then.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
To make more where does her opinion matter at all?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
What's her expertise in how America is healthy or in
medical or vaccination? So, I mean, but but then when
she gets to the end and she basically just calls
him a predator. She even says on a personal note,
why would a cousin single out their blood cousin and
issue a statement to members of the Senate that he's
(08:40):
a predator? I mean, it was just, it was just
so depicted how to Italian, Well, there is no loyalty.
But yeah, but I ultimately landed it with the same
thing you just said, in a party that is a pawn,
in a party that would be unrecognizable by her father,
and we may find out had rolling killing her father.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
You can't make this stuff up.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
You just Yeah, let's go back to your original question.
I think it's thrilling that the newsroom in regards to
the White House is going to change. I've been in
that room. I've been there, I've been in executive briefings.
It's it's it smells, I mean, and it's not political
smell from the people walking in the room as candidate.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
It smells.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
It's smacks of the manipulation of corporate media and America.
And look, Michael, that includes all of them. Yeah, includes
all of them. Cable news has made life much worse
for all of us. I think the more people we
get in, the more free exchange of ideas we have,
the more people who were able to ask honest questions
and people be able to listen.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Why not you know I brought this up earlier. I
think it was Jerry Seinfeld. I'm pretty sure you know
me I go in my little are.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
You binging Seinfeld? Now?
Speaker 2 (09:45):
No, I was just binging reels and he was having
you know, because comedians are so thoughtful. They're funny because
they're thoughtful, they're brilliant, and they're and they're brilliant and
funny because they have felt real pain.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
I mean, that's the dyning.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
That's why if you go back to the old the
two faces, that's why they're laughing and crying, all right.
So I always love to go to these comedian reels
because comedians have great takes on life. They're thinkers. They
delve and they think. And he brought up we don't
have shared experiences anymore. I'm pretty sure it was Jerry Seinfeld.
(10:21):
We're not any shared experience anymore. You know, that's a
real big problem in America. I was watching this movie
on Saturday Night Live, which, by the way, was the
closest I came to taking a xanax and I don't
know how many years because it was just so anxiety
filled and chaotic. It was just an Italian we call
indigestion ajita. This movie five minutes in you got Ogita,
(10:41):
and then the portrayals of Belushi and Ackroyd.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
And yeah, welcome to Lauren Michael's world.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yeah, and it was very in that first episode. And
really the way the network was setting them up, they
had genius in front of them, and they didn't realize it.
You know, they were they were gonna use it as
a pond to go back to playing Johnny Carson repeats.
But anyway, that's a whole other story. But they feature
and not well, it's a it's a very unattractive portrayal
of Milton Burle in this particular movie, I mean, vile
(11:09):
and unattractive and Uncle Milty and allus. Hubris is bragging.
How you know he once had ninety seven percent of
America watching him. I mean, can you imagine any show
on television getting a ninety seven share? I mean, that's
just insane. But even when I was growing up news,
which is what we're talking about, you know, you watched
Walter Cronkite, or you watched Frank Reynolds, or you watched
(11:32):
I guess it was Harry Reasoner at that time.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I was there.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, because I think at that point even what's his
name was? How far you go back?
Speaker 5 (11:39):
Yeahcau was Brokaw actually got into the in the seventies,
in the seventies and eighties for NBC. But you know
Lee Brinkley, if you go back from how About Late Night,
you either watch Carson or you watch Dick Caviot, And
nobody was watching Dick Caviot. That's like Ethan mcdonald's'm looking
over at the Burger king empty parking lot, all right,
But we had shared experiences.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Mash did a final episode. We all talked about it
because we were all watching it. Now nobody has any
shared experiences. So you know this notion that you got
to have CBS there because CBS has a responsibility to
hold this president accountable and inform their viewer what viewers. Yeah,
and quite frankly, you should have Megan Kelly, Tucker, Carlson,
(12:19):
Joe Rogan, one of the top influencers from TikTok. They
ought to be in the front row. That's what everybody's watching,
that's what they're.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Getting their news. And if any American is.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Walking around thinking like I love when you're in New
York and you walk by the Fox building and they
still do their pictures of all the personalities out front,
like the Roger ail.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Days, like it's a big deal.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
You got three hundred thousand people watching at night twenty
five to fifty four. I've worked at radio stations with
much higher audiences.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Than that, and three million on the gross three million
out of three hundred and thirty million people.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
It's they're nothing. Of course, that room should change. America
has changed. Yeah, they're the leader. CNN's a lot lower
than that. CNN's at one hundred and eighteen thousand, twenty
five fifty four.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
And I had tas Oklahoma.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
We had we had guessed there. We said we checked
in for Fox News. It was like ninety seconds and
we're out. It's just the whole, but not that they
think they're bigger than life.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
And I played a clip from Jake Tapper, and you know,
Jake's quoting something he saw on CBE. I mean, they
watch each other, they're obsessed with each other, but America
isn't watching any of them. Of course, that press room
should change. It should have changed a long time ago.
I mean, I don't know if Donald Trump is brilliant
or just common sense again, but it's coming, and it's
(13:34):
coming to the front row, and it's about time.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
It's your morning show with Michael del Chno.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Just a point we were making, David.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
I was reading this fascinating story by Eric von Weber,
and he's talking about more Americans that are having you know,
the back in the office, we're back working.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
What are we doing at work?
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Thirty three minutes texting, twenty seven minutes streaming video, fifteen
minutes playing as, thirteen minutes shopping online. I guess somewhere
there we're doing our work and two hundred and thirty
four minutes listening to podcasts. And depending on what age
group you're talking about, that number just grows. I mean
(14:15):
it's kind of like, you know, when I was in
the seventies. You know, everybody's watching Carson, late seventies, eighties Letterman,
my grandmother's watching Lawrence Welk, you know, and there was
nothing relevant there. The reality is you were walking around
talking about what they were talking about on CNN or Fox.
Most people don't know what you're talking about. They've moved
(14:37):
on to other sources. So, yeah, that room needs to change,
needs to change in a hurry. It's well got him elected,
and it should be what that room looks like to
hold him and other successors accountable. All right, when we
come back and want to talk more about this. We
only have a minute and a half here. Red made
us both laugh out loud bringing up when Major League
(14:57):
Baseball made their big racial stand by pulling the World
the All Star Game from majority black Atlanta and giving
it to Lilly White Phoenix. And that's kind of what
we're seeing now with this whole you know, boycott Target.
So Target comes out and makes it crystal clear we
are ending DEI programs. So the left, who already played
(15:21):
that game at Costco when Costco decided to keep their DEI,
the Left comes out and calls for a boycott, to
which five hundred black owned companies come out to say, hey,
don't listen to this boycott. Target has given five hundred
black companies shelf space. You're going to hurt us, not them.
And that brings up, David, the bigger question of is
(15:43):
the right plan? And it used to be the other
way around for decades. Democrats are always playing chess while
the Republicans were playing an old checkers game from a
year or two ago. Are the Republicans now playing chess?
And is the left playing checkers? We see that with
this legacy media that doesn't know it's dead trying to
drill cabinet members of Donald Trump, people that are busy
(16:05):
about doing what the American people want done and elected
him to do. They just don't get it that they're
old news. Are the Republicans now playing chess? And the
Democrats who don't know journalism is dead still trying to
play checkers.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Hey, this is Lee Murphy in Cottontown, Tennessee.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
My morning show is your Morning Show with Michael o'bill Jorno.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Hi, I'm Michael, and your Morning show is heard on
great radio stations across the country like one oh five,
nine twelve fifty WHNZ and Tampa, Florida, News Radio five
seventy WKBN and Youngstown, Ohio and News Radio one thousand
KTOK in Oklahoma City. Love to have you listen to
us live in the morning. And of course we're so
grateful you came for the podcast. Enjoy all we're visiting
(16:58):
with David's not even the American Pouse Roundtable hosts of
the Public Square. So the big announcement was from the
thirty sixth White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt yesterday that
the Trump administration is going to open up the press
briefing room to non traditional content creators as it should.
(17:18):
He's watching ABCNBCCBS, nobody's watching Fox News, CNN, MSNBC. The
world has turned to digital, to podcasting, to influencers, and
that's what the room should reflect. We're saying, that's not
brilliant of Donald Trump, that's not payback for how when
he was playing chess, and I mean think about Kamala Harrison.
Oh no, we know you come here, We'll build your
(17:39):
set here and Joe Rogan's like, no, come here. So
you know, Trump goes and reaches sixty million just on
YouTube alone with Joe Rogan, JD Van's nineteen million, elon
Musk nineteen million. Meanwhile they're on shows with one hundred
and eighteen thousand viewers and they just don't get it.
So we're going through this number of what are people
doing back at work now? Do vary by generation? Gen
(18:02):
Z leads the pack two hundred and thirty four minutes
a day on their phone while they're working listening to podcasts.
That's twenty minutes more than millennials. In comparison, Baby Boomers
the older are about seventy seven minutes a day. But
you know, that's why we were talking Earli about somewhere
around forty and below they've gone digital. Fifty plus is
(18:23):
still maybe television and radio, but things have shifted and
how it's delivered is really a big part of the difference.
But the content is king, and then the question becomes
how long are they listening? So this shift has taken place,
the room should reflect it is ultimately we're talking about
but you know, who are these people and who are
these influences and how do they play in American politics
(18:45):
moving forward? David, I guess is the question we're exploring.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Well, again, I'm going to come back to the fact
that there's a hunger for long format audio and it's
in the hungers for content. And now there's a significant
portion of all of podcasting that is pure entertainment and
it's sometimes it's masked in different forms of storytelling and
sort of are pseudo news or pseudo document but it's
basically entertainment, which is great. I mean, there's no problem
(19:12):
with that. People are looking for thought, that's the point
they're looking or thought.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
For escape, like the crime things is really escape and
that's fine too.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Yeah, that's fine too, But that's still escape in the mind.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
That's healthy. Now would the god.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
We would actually somehow restore an affection for reading books
to go along with that, because that would help us
as well. But when we're in the realm of thought
and long form audio, we're in the realm of ideas,
which is much different than being on the realm of
simply being entertained by pictures on the screen.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
So you're going to play chests and not checkers. Why
why are you even bothering with ABC, NBC and CBS.
Why are you even bothering with c in an MSNBC?
Why send people there to defend yourself, you know, or
have them just or deal with their attacks, just move
on where America has already moved too.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
It's a generational hang on.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
And because a lot of people still at home will
turn on when they get home, they will turn on
the television set.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
A lot of people still turn it on and so
that that stuff.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Is there through their early evening hours before they move
to streaming video. Right, Because then that's the other question,
Because let's let's take these numbers and compare streaming video
versus network television and network television programs, and then you
see the same situation crash.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
You have a network television show on NBC that used
to be a big deal. Now if you're not on
Netflix or Amazon, you're not a big deal.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
That's what everybody talks about. And so things have changed.
I don't think it's because people are dumb.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
But how do you come up, Like, let's come full
circle to what I brought up, which was two things,
the chess versus checkers, but also the shared experience observation.
It's going to be really hot, you know that not
having shared experiences, and everybody's so fragmented. We don't have
common experiences, so we don't have common touch points or
things that we can talk about.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
And the only thing that's saving network television is the
shared experience of sports.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
That they're ruining with gambling. Yeah, completely destroying with gambling.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Yeah, but I guess then that's another form of a
shared experience for some people.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I guess yeah. No, So how well? I mean there's
two obvious questions.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
All right, So yeah, those chairs should be filled, probably
with Charlemagne, But is it smart for Charlemagne to do it?
Probably with Joe Rogan? But would it be smart for
Joe Rogan to do it? I mean, who should go
in that room.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Well, there's where the podcasters are going to find it
interesting because and we do podcasting as well, so I
mean long format audio is the same thing.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
It's all to me becoming the same thing.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
But what these folks are going to recognize, and you
were kind of intimating to it earlier, is if you
actually want to get involved in covering what's happening in
public policy, the more the merrier. Look, we have five
hundred and thirty five people in Congress and a lot
of them need to go, and they're not going to
go until there's shared experience is happening across the country
that people can understand why it's important that we come
(21:59):
up with a new model of governance that requires thoughts,
ideas and conversations. The more the merrier, Okay, But the
fact is that the podcaster is going to find out
that covering public policy is really hard work. It's not
like just turning on the microphone and talking to somebody.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
People recognize this, So I'll use it as an example.
This wasn't the case with Joe Biden. Joe Biden entered
office old and entered the corpse and left to corpse.
But you know, we were always fascinated how presidents would
age nice to correct the joke after height, here's the
Barack Obama high aged, not Barack Obama, but but yeah,
(22:36):
policy will aid you, it'll make it.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
It's it.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
You better guard your heart and mind because it'll it'll
destroy you just just following it.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
There's no higher level of accountability other than what we
would call in the old terms the sacred desk. People
being held accountable for every single word because they're presuming
to be teachers or presuming to be informers. And you
don't want to be wrong unless you're unless you're a scam.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
So here's the bottom line. I'm watching, you know, the reporters.
They don't know what to do, so you know they
get holman on the street. Are you using military planes.
We're going to use whatever assets we have to to
deport these people, But are you making distinction. We're going
to deport anybody that is up to no good, whether
they're in a sky. But they're playing the old gotcha game,
(23:20):
and they don't realize that they're already got it. They're
already gotcha, they're already out, they're already irrelevant. And so
I get this sense that for the first time in
a long time. Or maybe Rush would be the last
example of where the Republicans are playing chess and the
left media was playing checkers, but that didn't even hold
(23:41):
throughout his career. So are the Republicans starting to play
chess and the Democrats playing checkers? Because I don't know
what they're next, I will tell you this for certainty,
Trump is playing chess.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Whether or not Trump's a Republican, only history will tell.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Well, that's true, that's true. He's a free agent, yeah,
and so is most of the people surrounding him. And
the move that's a great press room is a move
of free agency.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah, because the McConnell's of the world, they'd all still
be playing check I storry.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Man, if I hadn't even breakfast. You just mentioned his name.
He's on my list. This week McConnell proposed with John
McCain and votes no against Pete Haig Seth just to
flip the middle finger to President Trump on his way out.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
MA, that's just hating Trump more than you love America.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
Yeah, mister McConnell is having strokes in public.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I gotta have mercy on him.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
I mean, I feel sorry for him, and he has
still not withdrawn from the twenty twenty six reelection bit.
He's been there forty two years and he still wants to.
I don't they don't leave till the coroner arrives. You
know that totag thing. Yeah, I mean I don't that
it was just the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
No, they all stay till the tot tech. Well, they're
making millions. I you know, I'm in awe of that.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
You know, it's like.
Speaker 7 (24:52):
Me.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I mean, first of all, I don't I don't want
to be here one day after I have nothing to offer.
I mean, I don't want to be that has been
number one. Number two. I really love my wife. I
want to have a decade decade and a half with
her alone and you know, and put life into perspective
and be with our grandkids. I don't understand these people
that stay and then when they finally do leave, if
they do leave, they go run for governor. Is we're
about to have in Tennessee? I mean, go home, going
(25:14):
to be a grandma. I don't get it.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
Do you sound like Senator Peters who just announced yesterday
that he's not running for reelection in Michigan, which definitely
makes twenty twenty six look well a little more interesting.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I didn't want to railroad you into another day, but
that's actually a full segment we need to do. That
is such a key seat in its brewing. This is twofold.
I know we need to go one would. I used
to say this, but I can't anymore because now Trump's
acknowledged it. I think our congressman for Tennessee is proposing
(25:47):
it a third term from Trump.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I hope they don't go there.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
What I saw brewing was Donald Trump being a complete
game changer and beginning a reawakening revolution and really the
midterm election being his second term and then hand a
torch off to what looks like it's going to be JD.
Vance and the future. That's what I was hoping for,
(26:12):
But that seems to be on the horizon. And he
carried Michigan. I don't have to tell you in this
twenty twenty four election, and that seat could be a
real game changer. Michigan can once again have a real
say in the direction of this country.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
The Senate is what it's all about. Michael sends sixty
to the Senate. That's the answer for America's problems. If
we get send sixty constitutionalists there and who aren't interested
in being toe tagged, that would be a difference.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah, and that's my fear that America's going to live
this in real time and say, oh, that was Donald Trump. No,
it was us recognizing what he recognized, putting him in
office to take care of that, and us to continue.
It's like what I always say, if this ends with, oh,
put Donald Trump on Mount Rushmore, he was a phenomenon. No, Now,
(27:01):
we were the intent all along, and the People's House
and the Senate is where it really matters.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
I don't know that that those dots have been connected yet.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
No, and this is again not something that's going to
make people popular. But in the policy world where we
live at the American Policy Roundtable, we're already thinking past
twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
We have to past twenty twenty.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
We have to be thinking twelve, fourteen, sixteen years down
the road, because these trends take us somewhere and it's
the ideas that prevail now.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
When it comes to chest to checkers.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
I mean, the progressors are sitting on the side of
the road saying, well, that didn't work. But it doesn't
mean there are at of bullets, a lot of money,
and you got Elizabeth Warren still out there.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
I mean she may still make a comeback and run
for president. Who knows, Oh gosh, I hope.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
So this is your morning show with Michael del Chona.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
My name is.
Speaker 8 (27:49):
Jess and I come from New Zealand. I'm listening to
your show on the iHeartRadio app and I'm wanting it
so keep up with the great Witch. It's just af
to could you past two in the morning.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
Thursday, see January New Zealand.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
That may be the furthest right. I wouldn't believe some
of the places that we get downe.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
To New Zealand. I think we got to start keeping
track of that. I do, I keep I can tell
you all about it. I think New Zealand may be
the further Well. I'm so glad you're joining. I've never
been to New Zealand. It's nice to know I'm there
right now. I'm sitting here.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
You know.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I don't want to take the high road, but I
would just like to acknowledge, with just ten minutes left
in the show, that I went all day without commenting
on Christy Nome and Kevlar jeans, you know, going on
deportation rates because there's the astute high road, which is
that's dire's in may Orcus and her she's on the
(28:48):
ground with the agents getting it done. Now I'm not
blind either. She does look incredible. I'd let her shoot
my dog. Incredible. But the big difference, of course is
she's on the ground doing it with the agents. Yesterday
(29:08):
we contrasted if you've never listened to the podcast, go
to the iHeart podcast section and search Michael del Journal
or your morning show to pop right up hit subscribe.
That way, it's waiting for you every morning. But in
the five o'clock hour, we contrasted Caroline Kennedy and Caroline Levitt, who,
at twenty seven years old, is the thirty sixth White
House Press Secretary. And if you think this administration is
(29:32):
one hundred and eighty degrees different from the previous, I
think the two press secretaries were as well. But let's
get John Decker's take this. This is his room, White
House correspondent John Decker joining us. Overall, a pretty impressive
first day on the job for her.
Speaker 7 (29:48):
I thought, well, let me just correct something you misspoke.
You refer to Karine Jean Pierre as Caroline Kennedy. So
I just wanted to correct the record there.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Oh no, no, you were actually contrasted both of them.
Why Caroline Kennedy felt the need to attack Robert Caroll,
You know when the senators can handle that for themselves.
But we contrasted the two Carolines. But on Caroline Levitt,
she had her first date. And I'm already a fan.
You know why ask me?
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Ask me Decker, why are you a fan? Michael?
Speaker 2 (30:20):
She called on you. I like that right off the
bat well, Thank you, I said, Well, I got called on.
Speaker 7 (30:26):
I got caught on pretty regularly by Kareeine John Pierre too.
You know, she's the seventeenth White House Press Secretary that
I work with and will work with. And I thought
she did a commendable job for her first day as
the White House Press secretary in the briefing room, handling
questions for forty seven minutes. And you know, to me,
it was pretty interesting. The news organizations that did not.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Get called upon, I made a note of it.
Speaker 7 (30:51):
I'll run through some of them, The Los Angeles Times,
the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Post. In addition to that,
who else Reuters did not get called upon. MSNBC did
not get called upon, BOP's business did not get called upon.
So I'm appreciative of the fact that Caroline called upon
me her first day out there in the briefing room,
(31:13):
and I thought that her tone was perfect in terms
of handling questions from a variety of news organizations.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Because these organizations should be asking questions on behalf of
their viewers or their readers or their listeners and be
interested in the answer, whether they agree or disagree. And
it's turned into a big attack and gotcha session.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Well, she's up for the.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Gotchas, and I think it's them that have been gotten.
They're playing checkers against chess. We had a big question today,
which was she made the announcement they're going to open
up the room to what might seem like to people
in the room as untraditional sources, but for where America is.
I mean, we were comparing the fifty five million just
on YouTube alone that watched Trump with with Joe Rogan
(31:53):
compared to one hundred and eighteeny twenty five to fifty
four viewers on CNN. I mean, you know, America has
moved on and move these by there are TikTok influencers
who have really reached.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
My college children. Maybe they should be in that room.
Joe Rogan maybe should be in that room.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
I don't think it's in his best interest, but Tucker Carlson,
Megan Kelly, I mean, should this room reflect where we're
watching and listening.
Speaker 7 (32:17):
Well, what she announced was that they're going to set
aside two seats on the side of the briefing room,
not one of the forty nine seats occupied by the
White House Press Corps. And that means she's taking away
two seats from her own press team. That's where they
typically sit. And so what we saw yesterday journalists from
(32:40):
Axios and Breitbart starting off the briefing with questions posed
to Caroline Levitt, and then the more traditional news organizations
ask questions as well. AP I think was the third
news organization posing a question to Caroline Levitt. I was
the only person who actually asked a foreign policy question
for that forty seven minute long briefing that she did yesterday.
(33:03):
You also noticed Michael no briefing book Caroline Levitt Carrie's,
and she doesn't need one. She has all the information
right there in her head. And that's what we saw
a briefing book is what we saw with the prior
three press secretaries, Karine, John Pierre, Jensaki, and Kaylee mcadetti.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
You know, you mentioned John Decker is our White House correspondent,
that you've been there with seventeen different press secretaries For
a first day. I mean, I'm watching this and I'm thinking,
all right, I expect nerves on the first day. You know,
you gotta get your rhythm, You got to get your confidence. Yes,
you know, repetitions. You know that from Little league in tennis.
(33:42):
Repetitions that's how you show up and win matches, repetitions
in practice. If she was that good on her first day,
how good is she going to get twenty seven years old?
Speaker 7 (33:50):
John, Yeah, really impressive. I agree with you. Incredibly poised.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
No surprise to.
Speaker 7 (33:57):
Me in the sense that she was the spokesperson for
the Trump presidential campaign over the course of the last year,
so she's had that experience, and it's not her first
time in the White House. She was a junior preside
during Donald Trump's first term in the White House. So
for all of those reasons, you know, it's not a
surprise to me that she hit it out of the
(34:18):
Ballpark yesterday or for.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
My reason she called on you. You got in a
tour three questions. I think it was.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
John Decker is always appreciate our visit. We'll talk again tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
We're all in this together. This is Your Morning Show
with Michael nhild Joe Now
Hi, It's Michael.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Your morning show can be heard on great radio stations
across the country, like News Talk ninety two point one
and six hundred WREC in Memphis, Tennessee, or thirteen hundred
The Patriot in Tulsa, our Talk six fifty KSTE in Sacramento, California.
We invite you to listen live while you're getting ready
in the morning, and to take us along for the
drive to work. But as we always say, better late
than never. Thanks for joining us for the podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Well two three, starting your morning off right, A new
way of talk, a new way of understanding.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Because we're in the stage. This is your morning show
with Michael del.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
John seven minutes after the hour. Welcome to Wednesday, the
twenty ninth of January. You have our Lord twenty twenty
five on the Aaron streaming live on your iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
This is your morning show. I'm Michael.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Jeffrey's got control of the sound Reds. They're keeping an
eye on the content, and of course we can't have
your morning show without your voice. To the talkback line,
we go. Let's start in Iowa. Good morning, Michael. The
Mayorcis Police Chief of New Orleans announced today that they're
putting up these ballads again, except they mentioned they called
(01:09):
them iron spikes just weeks after the attack on Bourbon Street.
Just weeks, mind you, instead of within say, three days.
Must have been a crime scene then. Anyway, I have
a good day. She's another DEI higher. Well, now that's
going to work out. Yeah, well, I think you see
how it's working out, by the way they took him
down right before the attack two, which must have been
(01:32):
very convenient for the attacker.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Scott's listening in Nashville. Michael, is it a yetty? What
type of cup are you using for your coffee?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
You know, I'm so sorry you asked that question, Scott,
because I explored. I saw it was stainless steel. I
saw that you can't microwave it. I saw everything except
the make, and then when I tried to open it
up to read the make, I broke my lid. But
then I found out from David's to not even go
to true value and get replacement lids. I know, I'm
very sorry about my coffee cup broke, but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I presume it's YETI. Next up is Mike and Sacramento.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Well, this is Mike and Sacramento watching police shows where
they bounce around from city to city following crimes or
forty hours to follow a crime. When did Tolsa, Oklahoma
become such a crime spot that time?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
That old chestnut I was warning that that was coming
with a casino on every corner decades ago, and I
got run out of town for warning them of the
reality they're living. But roughly about fifteen years Perry listening
in Nashville.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Hey, Michael Perry again, I wonder how much college could
be cut if Trump shut down a liberal NVR.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Thank you, buddy, love your.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Show three hundred million AD in PBS and you get
to a billion.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
Youngstown never could understand how they know how many people
are watch gene TV or listening to the radio. Is
it how much signal strength is drawn or what.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Well, the signal strength is just the potential of how
far someone could listen. That's assuming that people are still
listening on amplitude modulation, frequency modulation AM or FM, or
whether they're watching you know, cable or streaming or satellite.
Those are all delivery system things. That's what's changed. Everything
is the delivery. The actual answer to the question is
(03:30):
for radio, they now and most markets use meter readings,
so you're wearing a meter, the meter picks up the signal.
Of course, everybody's got earbuds in now, so you don't
get credit for it. You know, in television, you know
monitors based on that. So I mean there's the way
they monitor those that are watching, regardless of what technology
they're using. But the case we were making is the
(03:52):
perception of people is if you have a show on Fox,
you're a big deal. You have a show on CNN,
you're a big deal. You're not anymore. Jake Tapper's audience
twenty five to fifty four is the exact same audience
I had in Tells, Oklahoma in nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Was our conversation. Now, there's two things.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
One that press room should reflect that, and two, you
need to change your perception to the new reality. Joe
Rogan is a much bigger deal. And if you have
to be under forty to realize that, well, it's what
allowed the Republicans to play chess while the Democrats were
still playing checkers. I asked David Sanadi here, I mean,
we're open to talk about anything. We would start with
(04:31):
that one, David, the press room, the announcement was made
by Caroline Levitt that the White House is going to
open the press room up to digital providers, meaning some
influencer on TikTok has more business being there than a
reporter for CBS because they're reaching more people, or Joe
Rogan or Megan Kelly or Tucker Carlson. Shouldn't that room
(04:51):
look different because the way we're watching and listening is
a lot different.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Certainly, certainly it should.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Speaking of Oklahoma, do you know that Enator Warren came
from Oklahoma, from Norman, Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Well, that's her native American roots, of course.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Yeah, so struggling, and we talked about We've talked about
her all night and even sending me stuff back and
forth about her jumping on Elon.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Musk seems to be getting the show today.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
Now Elizabeth Warren's beating them up because of dog and
saying that she's got much better suggestions than is. I
started looking at her ideas, and I'm looking back at Norman,
Oklahoma and her upbringing which was very very middle class.
I mean, she struggled, her she and her family struggle dramatically,
and I'm asking myself, when did her thinking become so
radicalized that now she is an East Coast Massachusetts left
(05:39):
wing progressive and is lecturing Elon Musk on how to
cut the budget, you know, which is basically how to
just surrender American to complete socialists.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Well, but I thought buried in that story that I
thought was the most interesting is yeah, she'll acknowledge all
the wasteful spending as she's done nothing about it, and
then she'll acknowledge it and wanted so that she can
prioritize her agenda and her worldview with.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
To me, with the part I couldn't get over.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Everything's the bait and switch.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
In other words, we'll pull out whatever we've got to
pull out.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
To put it where I want to put it exactly now.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
But what's interesting is that usually that mentality is something
that comes from the elitists who have got so much
money and so much inheritance and so many look people
who really don't have to work any longer for a
living ever in their lifestyle, dosn't change their guilt is
what usually drives them to socialism, because if not, they're
(06:37):
completely irrelevant, because they're just simply the ruling class of elites.
And that's that kind of hurts their feelings, so they've
got to convert into a sense of being becoming social
do gooters, and they'd rather do it with somebody else's money,
so they use the federal government, which is why we
have so many problems.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Or use their political position to go from a middle
class nothing existence to a twelve million dollar network.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, she's an interesting case though.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
She and the fact that she's been embraced and received
by that Massachusetts community as this middle class kid who
came up from Oklahoma's is very unusual.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Yeah. And she's just not a part of the Boston world.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
No, but she's a part of their worldview and their
agenda and they respond to that.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Wouldn't it be interesting to have the former senator, the
former former former former former.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Senator from Massachusetts, John Fitzgerald Kennedy the bet Elizabeth Warren today?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Well, it be unrecognizable.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I mean, that's why we started the show comparing the
two Carolines, Caroline Kennedy attacking her cousin, which I mean,
we did this whole long conversation people, and go to
the podcast, listen to the first hour. I live by
an old virtue, if you have nothing good to say,
I mean everything doesn't require I don't know. If somebody's
really heavy, they don't need me to walk by and
tell them they're fat.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
If you don't anything good to say, say nothing at all.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
If somebody's wearing something that looks, you know, in your mind,
like unfashionable or ugly, you don't have to tap on
the show and tell him. I don't know why everybody
feels like they have to have an opinion about everything,
or that their opinion really matters that much. I mean,
you're going to have senators drilling RFK today. Did he
really need his cousin to do it? And then what
is she being a pawn in a government that we
may find out killed her father and.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Her uncle and I it's just And then.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
To make more where does her opinion matter at all?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
What's her expertise in how America is healthy or in
medical or vaccination? So, I mean, but but then when
she gets to the end and she basically just calls
him a predator. She even says on a personal note,
why would a cousin single out their blood cousin and
issue a statement to members of the Senate that he's
(08:40):
a predator? I mean, it was just, it was just
so depicted how to Italian, Well, there is no loyalty.
But yeah, but I ultimately landed it with the same
thing you just said, in a party that is a pawn,
in a party that would be unrecognizable by her father,
and we may find out had rolling killing her father.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
You can't make this stuff up.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
You just Yeah, let's go back to your original question.
I think it's thrilling that the newsroom in regards to
the White House is going to change. I've been in
that room. I've been there, I've been in executive briefings.
It's it's it smells, I mean, and it's not political
smell from the people walking in the room as candidate.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
It smells.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
It's smacks of the manipulation of corporate media and America.
And look, Michael, that includes all of them. Yeah, includes
all of them. Cable news has made life much worse
for all of us. I think the more people we
get in, the more free exchange of ideas we have,
the more people who were able to ask honest questions
and people be able to listen.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Why not you know I brought this up earlier. I
think it was Jerry Seinfeld. I'm pretty sure you know
me I go in my little are.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
You binging Seinfeld? Now?
Speaker 2 (09:45):
No, I was just binging reels and he was having
you know, because comedians are so thoughtful. They're funny because
they're thoughtful, they're brilliant, and they're and they're brilliant and
funny because they have felt real pain.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
I mean, that's the dyning.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
That's why if you go back to the old the
two faces, that's why they're laughing and crying, all right.
So I always love to go to these comedian reels
because comedians have great takes on life. They're thinkers. They
delve and they think. And he brought up we don't
have shared experiences anymore. I'm pretty sure it was Jerry Seinfeld.
(10:21):
We're not any shared experience anymore. You know, that's a
real big problem in America. I was watching this movie
on Saturday Night Live, which, by the way, was the
closest I came to taking a xanax and I don't
know how many years because it was just so anxiety
filled and chaotic. It was just an Italian we call
indigestion ajita. This movie five minutes in you got Ogita,
(10:41):
and then the portrayals of Belushi and Ackroyd.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
And yeah, welcome to Lauren Michael's world.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yeah, and it was very in that first episode. And
really the way the network was setting them up, they
had genius in front of them, and they didn't realize it.
You know, they were they were gonna use it as
a pond to go back to playing Johnny Carson repeats.
But anyway, that's a whole other story. But they feature
and not well, it's a it's a very unattractive portrayal
of Milton Burle in this particular movie, I mean, vile
(11:09):
and unattractive and Uncle Milty and allus. Hubris is bragging.
How you know he once had ninety seven percent of
America watching him. I mean, can you imagine any show
on television getting a ninety seven share? I mean, that's
just insane. But even when I was growing up news,
which is what we're talking about, you know, you watched
Walter Cronkite, or you watched Frank Reynolds, or you watched
(11:32):
I guess it was Harry Reasoner at that time.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I was there.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, because I think at that point even what's his
name was? How far you go back?
Speaker 5 (11:39):
Yeahcau was Brokaw actually got into the in the seventies,
in the seventies and eighties for NBC. But you know
Lee Brinkley, if you go back from how About Late Night,
you either watch Carson or you watch Dick Caviot, And
nobody was watching Dick Caviot. That's like Ethan mcdonald's'm looking
over at the Burger king empty parking lot, all right,
But we had shared experiences.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Mash did a final episode. We all talked about it
because we were all watching it. Now nobody has any
shared experiences. So you know this notion that you got
to have CBS there because CBS has a responsibility to
hold this president accountable and inform their viewer what viewers. Yeah,
and quite frankly, you should have Megan Kelly, Tucker, Carlson,
(12:19):
Joe Rogan, one of the top influencers from TikTok. They
ought to be in the front row. That's what everybody's watching,
that's what they're.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Getting their news. And if any American is.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Walking around thinking like I love when you're in New
York and you walk by the Fox building and they
still do their pictures of all the personalities out front,
like the Roger ail.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Days, like it's a big deal.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
You got three hundred thousand people watching at night twenty
five to fifty four. I've worked at radio stations with
much higher audiences.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Than that, and three million on the gross three million
out of three hundred and thirty million people.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
It's they're nothing. Of course, that room should change. America
has changed. Yeah, they're the leader. CNN's a lot lower
than that. CNN's at one hundred and eighteen thousand, twenty
five fifty four.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
And I had tas Oklahoma.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
We had we had guessed there. We said we checked
in for Fox News. It was like ninety seconds and
we're out. It's just the whole, but not that they
think they're bigger than life.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
And I played a clip from Jake Tapper, and you know,
Jake's quoting something he saw on CBE. I mean, they
watch each other, they're obsessed with each other, but America
isn't watching any of them. Of course, that press room
should change. It should have changed a long time ago.
I mean, I don't know if Donald Trump is brilliant
or just common sense again, but it's coming, and it's
(13:34):
coming to the front row, and it's about time.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
It's your morning show with Michael del Chno.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Just a point we were making, David.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
I was reading this fascinating story by Eric von Weber,
and he's talking about more Americans that are having you know,
the back in the office, we're back working.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
What are we doing at work?
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Thirty three minutes texting, twenty seven minutes streaming video, fifteen
minutes playing as, thirteen minutes shopping online. I guess somewhere
there we're doing our work and two hundred and thirty
four minutes listening to podcasts. And depending on what age
group you're talking about, that number just grows. I mean
(14:15):
it's kind of like, you know, when I was in
the seventies. You know, everybody's watching Carson, late seventies, eighties Letterman,
my grandmother's watching Lawrence Welk, you know, and there was
nothing relevant there. The reality is you were walking around
talking about what they were talking about on CNN or Fox.
Most people don't know what you're talking about. They've moved
(14:37):
on to other sources. So, yeah, that room needs to change,
needs to change in a hurry. It's well got him elected,
and it should be what that room looks like to
hold him and other successors accountable. All right, when we
come back and want to talk more about this. We
only have a minute and a half here. Red made
us both laugh out loud bringing up when Major League
(14:57):
Baseball made their big racial stand by pulling the World
the All Star Game from majority black Atlanta and giving
it to Lilly White Phoenix. And that's kind of what
we're seeing now with this whole you know, boycott Target.
So Target comes out and makes it crystal clear we
are ending DEI programs. So the left, who already played
(15:21):
that game at Costco when Costco decided to keep their DEI,
the Left comes out and calls for a boycott, to
which five hundred black owned companies come out to say, hey,
don't listen to this boycott. Target has given five hundred
black companies shelf space. You're going to hurt us, not them.
And that brings up, David, the bigger question of is
(15:43):
the right plan? And it used to be the other
way around for decades. Democrats are always playing chess while
the Republicans were playing an old checkers game from a
year or two ago. Are the Republicans now playing chess?
And is the left playing checkers? We see that with
this legacy media that doesn't know it's dead trying to
drill cabinet members of Donald Trump, people that are busy
(16:05):
about doing what the American people want done and elected
him to do. They just don't get it that they're
old news. Are the Republicans now playing chess? And the
Democrats who don't know journalism is dead still trying to
play checkers.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Hey, this is Lee Murphy in Cottontown, Tennessee.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
My morning show is your Morning Show with Michael o'bill Jorno.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Hi, I'm Michael, and your Morning show is heard on
great radio stations across the country like one oh five,
nine twelve fifty WHNZ and Tampa, Florida, News Radio five
seventy WKBN and Youngstown, Ohio and News Radio one thousand
KTOK in Oklahoma City. Love to have you listen to
us live in the morning. And of course we're so
grateful you came for the podcast. Enjoy all we're visiting
(16:58):
with David's not even the American Pouse Roundtable hosts of
the Public Square. So the big announcement was from the
thirty sixth White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt yesterday that
the Trump administration is going to open up the press
briefing room to non traditional content creators as it should.
(17:18):
He's watching ABCNBCCBS, nobody's watching Fox News, CNN, MSNBC. The
world has turned to digital, to podcasting, to influencers, and
that's what the room should reflect. We're saying, that's not
brilliant of Donald Trump, that's not payback for how when
he was playing chess, and I mean think about Kamala Harrison.
Oh no, we know you come here, We'll build your
(17:39):
set here and Joe Rogan's like, no, come here. So
you know, Trump goes and reaches sixty million just on
YouTube alone with Joe Rogan, JD Van's nineteen million, elon
Musk nineteen million. Meanwhile they're on shows with one hundred
and eighteen thousand viewers and they just don't get it.
So we're going through this number of what are people
doing back at work now? Do vary by generation? Gen
(18:02):
Z leads the pack two hundred and thirty four minutes
a day on their phone while they're working listening to podcasts.
That's twenty minutes more than millennials. In comparison, Baby Boomers
the older are about seventy seven minutes a day. But
you know, that's why we were talking Earli about somewhere
around forty and below they've gone digital. Fifty plus is
(18:23):
still maybe television and radio, but things have shifted and
how it's delivered is really a big part of the difference.
But the content is king, and then the question becomes
how long are they listening? So this shift has taken place,
the room should reflect it is ultimately we're talking about
but you know, who are these people and who are
these influences and how do they play in American politics
(18:45):
moving forward? David, I guess is the question we're exploring.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Well, again, I'm going to come back to the fact
that there's a hunger for long format audio and it's
in the hungers for content. And now there's a significant
portion of all of podcasting that is pure entertainment and
it's sometimes it's masked in different forms of storytelling and
sort of are pseudo news or pseudo document but it's
basically entertainment, which is great. I mean, there's no problem
(19:12):
with that. People are looking for thought, that's the point
they're looking or thought.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
For escape, like the crime things is really escape and
that's fine too.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Yeah, that's fine too, But that's still escape in the mind.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
That's healthy. Now would the god.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
We would actually somehow restore an affection for reading books
to go along with that, because that would help us
as well. But when we're in the realm of thought
and long form audio, we're in the realm of ideas,
which is much different than being on the realm of
simply being entertained by pictures on the screen.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
So you're going to play chests and not checkers. Why
why are you even bothering with ABC, NBC and CBS.
Why are you even bothering with c in an MSNBC?
Why send people there to defend yourself, you know, or
have them just or deal with their attacks, just move
on where America has already moved too.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
It's a generational hang on.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
And because a lot of people still at home will
turn on when they get home, they will turn on
the television set.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
A lot of people still turn it on and so
that that stuff.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Is there through their early evening hours before they move
to streaming video. Right, Because then that's the other question,
Because let's let's take these numbers and compare streaming video
versus network television and network television programs, and then you
see the same situation crash.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
You have a network television show on NBC that used
to be a big deal. Now if you're not on
Netflix or Amazon, you're not a big deal.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
That's what everybody talks about. And so things have changed.
I don't think it's because people are dumb.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
But how do you come up, Like, let's come full
circle to what I brought up, which was two things,
the chess versus checkers, but also the shared experience observation.
It's going to be really hot, you know that not
having shared experiences, and everybody's so fragmented. We don't have
common experiences, so we don't have common touch points or
things that we can talk about.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
And the only thing that's saving network television is the
shared experience of sports.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
That they're ruining with gambling. Yeah, completely destroying with gambling.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Yeah, but I guess then that's another form of a
shared experience for some people.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I guess yeah. No, So how well? I mean there's
two obvious questions.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
All right, So yeah, those chairs should be filled, probably
with Charlemagne, But is it smart for Charlemagne to do it?
Probably with Joe Rogan? But would it be smart for
Joe Rogan to do it? I mean, who should go
in that room.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Well, there's where the podcasters are going to find it
interesting because and we do podcasting as well, so I
mean long format audio is the same thing.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
It's all to me becoming the same thing.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
But what these folks are going to recognize, and you
were kind of intimating to it earlier, is if you
actually want to get involved in covering what's happening in
public policy, the more the merrier. Look, we have five
hundred and thirty five people in Congress and a lot
of them need to go, and they're not going to
go until there's shared experience is happening across the country
that people can understand why it's important that we come
(21:59):
up with a new model of governance that requires thoughts,
ideas and conversations. The more the merrier, Okay, But the
fact is that the podcaster is going to find out
that covering public policy is really hard work. It's not
like just turning on the microphone and talking to somebody.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
People recognize this, So I'll use it as an example.
This wasn't the case with Joe Biden. Joe Biden entered
office old and entered the corpse and left to corpse.
But you know, we were always fascinated how presidents would
age nice to correct the joke after height, here's the
Barack Obama high aged, not Barack Obama, but but yeah,
(22:36):
policy will aid you, it'll make it.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
It's it.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
You better guard your heart and mind because it'll it'll
destroy you just just following it.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
There's no higher level of accountability other than what we
would call in the old terms the sacred desk. People
being held accountable for every single word because they're presuming
to be teachers or presuming to be informers. And you
don't want to be wrong unless you're unless you're a scam.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
So here's the bottom line. I'm watching, you know, the reporters.
They don't know what to do, so you know they
get holman on the street. Are you using military planes.
We're going to use whatever assets we have to to
deport these people, But are you making distinction. We're going
to deport anybody that is up to no good, whether
they're in a sky. But they're playing the old gotcha game,
(23:20):
and they don't realize that they're already got it. They're
already gotcha, they're already out, they're already irrelevant. And so
I get this sense that for the first time in
a long time. Or maybe Rush would be the last
example of where the Republicans are playing chess and the
left media was playing checkers, but that didn't even hold
(23:41):
throughout his career. So are the Republicans starting to play
chess and the Democrats playing checkers? Because I don't know
what they're next, I will tell you this for certainty,
Trump is playing chess.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Whether or not Trump's a Republican, only history will tell.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Well, that's true, that's true. He's a free agent, yeah,
and so is most of the people surrounding him. And
the move that's a great press room is a move
of free agency.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah, because the McConnell's of the world, they'd all still
be playing check I storry.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Man, if I hadn't even breakfast. You just mentioned his name.
He's on my list. This week McConnell proposed with John
McCain and votes no against Pete Haig Seth just to
flip the middle finger to President Trump on his way out.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
MA, that's just hating Trump more than you love America.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
Yeah, mister McConnell is having strokes in public.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I gotta have mercy on him.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
I mean, I feel sorry for him, and he has
still not withdrawn from the twenty twenty six reelection bit.
He's been there forty two years and he still wants to.
I don't they don't leave till the coroner arrives. You
know that totag thing. Yeah, I mean I don't that
it was just the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
No, they all stay till the tot tech. Well, they're
making millions. I you know, I'm in awe of that.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
You know, it's like.
Speaker 7 (24:52):
Me.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I mean, first of all, I don't I don't want
to be here one day after I have nothing to offer.
I mean, I don't want to be that has been
number one. Number two. I really love my wife. I
want to have a decade decade and a half with
her alone and you know, and put life into perspective
and be with our grandkids. I don't understand these people
that stay and then when they finally do leave, if
they do leave, they go run for governor. Is we're
about to have in Tennessee? I mean, go home, going
(25:14):
to be a grandma. I don't get it.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
Do you sound like Senator Peters who just announced yesterday
that he's not running for reelection in Michigan, which definitely
makes twenty twenty six look well a little more interesting.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I didn't want to railroad you into another day, but
that's actually a full segment we need to do. That
is such a key seat in its brewing. This is twofold.
I know we need to go one would. I used
to say this, but I can't anymore because now Trump's
acknowledged it. I think our congressman for Tennessee is proposing
(25:47):
it a third term from Trump.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I hope they don't go there.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
What I saw brewing was Donald Trump being a complete
game changer and beginning a reawakening revolution and really the
midterm election being his second term and then hand a
torch off to what looks like it's going to be JD.
Vance and the future. That's what I was hoping for,
(26:12):
But that seems to be on the horizon. And he
carried Michigan. I don't have to tell you in this
twenty twenty four election, and that seat could be a
real game changer. Michigan can once again have a real
say in the direction of this country.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
The Senate is what it's all about. Michael sends sixty
to the Senate. That's the answer for America's problems. If
we get send sixty constitutionalists there and who aren't interested
in being toe tagged, that would be a difference.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah, and that's my fear that America's going to live
this in real time and say, oh, that was Donald Trump. No,
it was us recognizing what he recognized, putting him in
office to take care of that, and us to continue.
It's like what I always say, if this ends with, oh,
put Donald Trump on Mount Rushmore, he was a phenomenon. No, Now,
(27:01):
we were the intent all along, and the People's House
and the Senate is where it really matters.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
I don't know that that those dots have been connected yet.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
No, and this is again not something that's going to
make people popular. But in the policy world where we
live at the American Policy Roundtable, we're already thinking past
twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
We have to past twenty twenty.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
We have to be thinking twelve, fourteen, sixteen years down
the road, because these trends take us somewhere and it's
the ideas that prevail now.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
When it comes to chest to checkers.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
I mean, the progressors are sitting on the side of
the road saying, well, that didn't work. But it doesn't
mean there are at of bullets, a lot of money,
and you got Elizabeth Warren still out there.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
I mean she may still make a comeback and run
for president. Who knows, Oh gosh, I hope.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
So this is your morning show with Michael del Chona.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
My name is.
Speaker 8 (27:49):
Jess and I come from New Zealand. I'm listening to
your show on the iHeartRadio app and I'm wanting it
so keep up with the great Witch. It's just af
to could you past two in the morning.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
Thursday, see January New Zealand.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
That may be the furthest right. I wouldn't believe some
of the places that we get downe.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
To New Zealand. I think we got to start keeping
track of that. I do, I keep I can tell
you all about it. I think New Zealand may be
the further Well. I'm so glad you're joining. I've never
been to New Zealand. It's nice to know I'm there
right now. I'm sitting here.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
You know.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I don't want to take the high road, but I
would just like to acknowledge, with just ten minutes left
in the show, that I went all day without commenting
on Christy Nome and Kevlar jeans, you know, going on
deportation rates because there's the astute high road, which is
that's dire's in may Orcus and her she's on the
(28:48):
ground with the agents getting it done. Now I'm not
blind either. She does look incredible. I'd let her shoot
my dog. Incredible. But the big difference, of course is
she's on the ground doing it with the agents. Yesterday
(29:08):
we contrasted if you've never listened to the podcast, go
to the iHeart podcast section and search Michael del Journal
or your morning show to pop right up hit subscribe.
That way, it's waiting for you every morning. But in
the five o'clock hour, we contrasted Caroline Kennedy and Caroline Levitt, who,
at twenty seven years old, is the thirty sixth White
House Press Secretary. And if you think this administration is
(29:32):
one hundred and eighty degrees different from the previous, I
think the two press secretaries were as well. But let's
get John Decker's take this. This is his room, White
House correspondent John Decker joining us. Overall, a pretty impressive
first day on the job for her.
Speaker 7 (29:48):
I thought, well, let me just correct something you misspoke.
You refer to Karine Jean Pierre as Caroline Kennedy. So
I just wanted to correct the record there.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Oh no, no, you were actually contrasted both of them.
Why Caroline Kennedy felt the need to attack Robert Caroll,
You know when the senators can handle that for themselves.
But we contrasted the two Carolines. But on Caroline Levitt,
she had her first date. And I'm already a fan.
You know why ask me?
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Ask me Decker, why are you a fan? Michael?
Speaker 2 (30:20):
She called on you. I like that right off the
bat well, Thank you, I said, Well, I got called on.
Speaker 7 (30:26):
I got caught on pretty regularly by Kareeine John Pierre too.
You know, she's the seventeenth White House Press Secretary that
I work with and will work with. And I thought
she did a commendable job for her first day as
the White House Press secretary in the briefing room, handling
questions for forty seven minutes. And you know, to me,
it was pretty interesting. The news organizations that did not.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Get called upon, I made a note of it.
Speaker 7 (30:51):
I'll run through some of them, The Los Angeles Times,
the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Post. In addition to that,
who else Reuters did not get called upon. MSNBC did
not get called upon, BOP's business did not get called upon.
So I'm appreciative of the fact that Caroline called upon
me her first day out there in the briefing room,
(31:13):
and I thought that her tone was perfect in terms
of handling questions from a variety of news organizations.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Because these organizations should be asking questions on behalf of
their viewers or their readers or their listeners and be
interested in the answer, whether they agree or disagree. And
it's turned into a big attack and gotcha session.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Well, she's up for the.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Gotchas, and I think it's them that have been gotten.
They're playing checkers against chess. We had a big question today,
which was she made the announcement they're going to open
up the room to what might seem like to people
in the room as untraditional sources, but for where America is.
I mean, we were comparing the fifty five million just
on YouTube alone that watched Trump with with Joe Rogan
(31:53):
compared to one hundred and eighteeny twenty five to fifty
four viewers on CNN. I mean, you know, America has
moved on and move these by there are TikTok influencers
who have really reached.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
My college children. Maybe they should be in that room.
Joe Rogan maybe should be in that room.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
I don't think it's in his best interest, but Tucker Carlson,
Megan Kelly, I mean, should this room reflect where we're
watching and listening.
Speaker 7 (32:17):
Well, what she announced was that they're going to set
aside two seats on the side of the briefing room,
not one of the forty nine seats occupied by the
White House Press Corps. And that means she's taking away
two seats from her own press team. That's where they
typically sit. And so what we saw yesterday journalists from
(32:40):
Axios and Breitbart starting off the briefing with questions posed
to Caroline Levitt, and then the more traditional news organizations
ask questions as well. AP I think was the third
news organization posing a question to Caroline Levitt. I was
the only person who actually asked a foreign policy question
for that forty seven minute long briefing that she did yesterday.
(33:03):
You also noticed Michael no briefing book Caroline Levitt Carrie's,
and she doesn't need one. She has all the information
right there in her head. And that's what we saw
a briefing book is what we saw with the prior
three press secretaries, Karine, John Pierre, Jensaki, and Kaylee mcadetti.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
You know, you mentioned John Decker is our White House correspondent,
that you've been there with seventeen different press secretaries For
a first day. I mean, I'm watching this and I'm thinking,
all right, I expect nerves on the first day. You know,
you gotta get your rhythm, You got to get your confidence. Yes,
you know, repetitions. You know that from Little league in tennis.
(33:42):
Repetitions that's how you show up and win matches, repetitions
in practice. If she was that good on her first day,
how good is she going to get twenty seven years old?
Speaker 7 (33:50):
John, Yeah, really impressive. I agree with you. Incredibly poised.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
No surprise to.
Speaker 7 (33:57):
Me in the sense that she was the spokesperson for
the Trump presidential campaign over the course of the last year,
so she's had that experience, and it's not her first
time in the White House. She was a junior preside
during Donald Trump's first term in the White House. So
for all of those reasons, you know, it's not a
surprise to me that she hit it out of the
(34:18):
Ballpark yesterday or for.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
My reason she called on you. You got in a
tour three questions. I think it was.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
John Decker is always appreciate our visit. We'll talk again tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
We're all in this together. This is Your Morning Show
with Michael nhild Joe Now
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.