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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Previously on Your Morning Show with Michael dil Choano.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We're visiting with David Ssonnadi from the American Policy Roundtable,
hosts of the Public Square. So the big announcement was
from the thirty sixth White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt
yesterday that the Trump administration is going to open up
the press briefing room to non traditional content creators, as
it should. He's watching ABCNBCCBS, nobody's watching Fox News, CNN, MSNBC.
(00:30):
The world has turned to digital, to podcasting, to influencers,
and that's what the room should reflect. We're saying, that's
not brilliant of Donald Trump, that's not payback for how
when he was playing chess, and I mean think about
Kamala Harrison, Oh no, we know you come here, We'll
build your set here and Joe Rogan's like, no, come here.
So you know, Trump goes and reaches sixty million just
(00:52):
on YouTube alone with Joe Rogan, j D Van's nineteen million,
Elon Musk nineteen million. Meanwhile, they're on show with one
hundred and eighteen thousand viewers and they just don't get it.
So we're going through this number of what are people
doing back at work. Now it does vary by generation.
Gen Z leads the pack two hundred and thirty four
minutes a day on their phone while they're working listening
(01:15):
to podcasts. That's twenty minutes more than millennials. In comparison,
Baby boomers the older are about seventy seven minutes a day.
But you know, that's why we were talking earlier about
somewhere around forty and below they've gone digital. Fifty plus
is still maybe television and radio, but things have shifted
and how it's delivered is really a big part of
(01:36):
the difference. But the content is king, and then the
question becomes how long are they listening? So this shift
has taken place, the room should reflect it is ultimately
we're talking about. But you know, who are these people
and who are these influences and how do they play
in American politics moving forward?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
David, I guess is the question we're exploring.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Well again, I'm going to come back to the fact
that there's a hunger for long format audio and it's
in the hungers for content. And now there's a significant
portion of all of podcasting that is pure entertainment, and
it's sometimes it's masked in different forms of storytelling. That's
sort of a pseudo news or pseudo documentary. But it's
basically entertainment, which is great. I mean, there's no problem
(02:18):
with that. People are looking for thought, that's the point.
They're looking for thought, for escape, like the crime things
is really escape, and that's fine too, that's fine too,
but that's still escape in the mind.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
That's healthy.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Now, would the god we would actually somehow restore an
affection for reading books to go along with that, because
that would help us as well. But when we're in
the realm of thought and long form audio, we're in
the realm of ideas, which is much different than being
on the realm of simply being entertained by pictures on
the screen.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
So you're going to play chests and not checkers. Why
it depends?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Why are you even bothering with ABC, NBC and CBS.
Why are you even bothering with c in an MSNBC? Why
send people there to defend yourself, you know, or have
them just or deal with their attacks. Just move on
where America has already moved to.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
It's a generational hang on and because a lot of
people still at home will turn on when they get
home they will turn on the television. Said, a lot
of people still turn it on and so that that
stuff is there through their early evening hours before they
move to streaming video.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Right, Because then that's the other question, because.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Let's let's take these numbers and compare streaming video versus
network television and network television programs, and then you see
the same situation crash.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
You have a network television show on NBC that used
to be a big deal. Now if you're not on
Netflix or Amazon, you're not a big deal.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
That's what everybody talks about. And so things have changed.
I don't think it's because people are dumb.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
But how do you come up, Like, let's come full
circle to what I brought up, which was two things
the chess versus checkers, but also the shared experience observation.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
It's gonna be really.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Hot, you know that not having shared experiences and everybody's
so fragmented. We don't have common experiences, so we don't
have common touch points or things that we can talk about.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
And the only thing that's saving network television is the
shared experience of sports.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, that they're ruining with gambling, yeah, in referee, completely
destroying with gambling.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Yeah, but I guess then that's another form of a
shared experience for some people.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I guess yeah, No, So how well, I mean there's
two obvious questions, all right, So, yeah, those chairs should
be filled, probably with Charlemagne, But is it smart for
Charlemagne to do it? Probably with Joe Rogan. But would
it be smart for Joe Rogan to do it? I mean,
who should go in that room?
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Well, there's where the podcasters are going to find it
interesting because and we do podcasting as well, so I mean,
long format audio is the same thing.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
It's all to me becoming the same thing.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
But what these folks are going to recognize, and you
were kind of intimating to it earlier, is if you
actually want to get involved in covering what's happening in
public policy, the more the merrier. Look, we have five
hundred and thirty five people in Congress, and a lot
of them need to go, and they're not going to
go until there's shared experiences happening across the country that
people can understand why it's important that we come up
(05:06):
with a new model of governance that requires thoughts, ideas,
and conversations. The more the merrier, Okay, but the fact
is that the podcaster is going to find out that
covering public policy is really hard work. It's not like
just turning on the microphone and talking to somebody.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
People recognize this, so I'll use it as an example.
This wasn't the case with Joe Biden. Joe Biden entered
office old and entered the corpse and left to corpse.
But you know, we were always fascinated how presidents would age.
Nice to correct the joke after height, here's a Barack
Obama high aged, not Barack Obama. But but yeah, policy
(05:43):
will aid you, it'll make it.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
It's it.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
You better guard your heart and mind because it'll it'll
destroy you just following it.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
There's no higher level of accountability other than what we
would call in the old terms the sacred desk. People
being held accountable for every single word because they're presuming
to be t or presuming to be informers. And you
don't want to be wrong unless you're unless you're a scam.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
So here's the bottom line.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I'm watching you know, the reporters, they don't know what
to do, so you know they get Holman on the street.
Are you using military planes? We're going to use whatever
assets we have to to deport these people. But are
you making distinction. We're going to deport anybody that is
up to no good, whether they're in a skite, but
they're playing the old gotcha game, and they don't realize
(06:28):
that they're already got it. They're already gotcha, they're already out,
they're already irrelevant. And so I get this sense that
for the first time in a long time, or maybe
Rush would be the last example of where the Republicans
are playing chess and the left media was playing checkers,
but that didn't even hold throughout his career. So are
(06:49):
the Republicans starting to play chess and the Democrats playing checkers?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Because I don't know what they're next.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
I will tell you this for certainty, Trump is playing chess.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Whether or not Trump Republican, only history will tell. Well,
that's true, that's true.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
He's a free agent, yeah, and so is most of
the people surrounding him, and the moves the press room
is a move of free agency.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, because the McConnell's of the world, they'd all still
be playing check I was sorry.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Man, I'm glad I hadn't even breakfast. You just mentioned
his name. He's on my list this week. McConnell who
pulls with John McCain and votes no against Pete Haig
Seth just to flip the middle finger to President Trump
on his way out.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah, that's just hating Trump more than you love America.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Yeah, mister McConnell is having strokes in public.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I gotta have mercy on him. I mean, I feel
sorry for him.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
And he has still not withdrawn from the twenty twenty
six reelection bit. He's been there forty two years and
he still wants to.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
I don't they don't leave till the coroner arrives. You
know that totag thing. I mean't that was just the
Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
No, they all stay till the tot tech. Well, they're
making millions. I you know, I'm in awe of that.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
You know, it's like.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Me.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I mean, first of all, I don't want to be
here one day after I have nothing to offer. I mean,
I don't want to be That has been number one.
Number two. I really love my wife. I want to
have a decade decade and a half with her alone,
and you know, and put life into perspective and be
with our grandkids. I don't understand these people that stay
and then when they finally do leave, if they do leave,
they go run for governor. Is we're about to have
in Tennessee? I mean, go, I'm going to be a grandma.
(08:22):
I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Do you?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Sounds like Senator Peters, who just announced yesterday that he's
not running for reelection in Michigan, which definitely makes twenty
twenty six look.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Well a little more interesting.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I didn't want to railroad you into another day, but
that's actually a full segment we need to do. That
is such a key seat, and it's brewing. This is twofold.
I know we need to go one would I used
to say this, but I can't anymore because now Trump's
acknowledged it. I think our congressman for Tennessee is proposing
(08:54):
it a third term from Trump.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
I hope they don't go there.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
What I saw brewing was Donald Trump being a complete
game changer and beginning a reawakening revolution and really the
midterm election being his second term and then hand a
torch off to what looks like it's going to be JD.
Vance and the future. That's what I was hoping for.
(09:18):
But that seems to be on the horizon, and he
carried Michigan. I don't have to tell you in this
twenty twenty four election, and that seat could be a
real game changer. Michigan can once again have a real
say in the direction of this country.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
The Senate is what it's all about. Michael sends sixty
to the Senate. That's the answer for America's problems. If
we get send sixty constitutionalists there and who aren't interested
in being toe tagged, that would be a difference.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, and that's my fear that America's going to live
this in real time and say, oh, that was Donald Trump. No,
it was us recognizing what he recognized, putting him in
office to take care of that, and us to continue.
It's like what I always say, if this ends with, oh,
put Donald Trump on Mount Rushmore, he was a phenomenon. No, No,
(10:07):
we were the intent all along. And the People's House
and the Senate is where it really matters. I don't
know that that those dots have been connected yet. No,
and this is again not something that's going to make
people popular.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
But in the policy world where we live at the
American Policy round Table, we're already thinking past twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
We have to past twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
We have to be thinking twelve, fourteen, sixteen years down
the road, because these trends take us somewhere, and it's
the ideas that prevail now when it comes to chest
to checkers. I mean, the progressors are sitting on the
side of the road saying, well, that didn't work. But
it doesn't mean there are at of bullets, a lot
of money. And you got Elizabeth Warren still out there.
I mean she may still make a comeback and run
for president. Who knows, Oh gosh, I hope.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
So miss a little, miss a lot, miss a lot,
and we'll miss you. It's Your Morning Show with Michael
Del Truno.
Previously on Your Morning Show with Michael dil Choano.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We're visiting with David Ssonnadi from the American Policy Roundtable,
hosts of the Public Square. So the big announcement was
from the thirty sixth White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt
yesterday that the Trump administration is going to open up
the press briefing room to non traditional content creators, as
it should. He's watching ABCNBCCBS, nobody's watching Fox News, CNN, MSNBC.
(00:30):
The world has turned to digital, to podcasting, to influencers,
and that's what the room should reflect. We're saying, that's
not brilliant of Donald Trump, that's not payback for how
when he was playing chess, and I mean think about
Kamala Harrison, Oh no, we know you come here, We'll
build your set here and Joe Rogan's like, no, come here.
So you know, Trump goes and reaches sixty million just
(00:52):
on YouTube alone with Joe Rogan, j D Van's nineteen million,
Elon Musk nineteen million. Meanwhile, they're on show with one
hundred and eighteen thousand viewers and they just don't get it.
So we're going through this number of what are people
doing back at work. Now it does vary by generation.
Gen Z leads the pack two hundred and thirty four
minutes a day on their phone while they're working listening
(01:15):
to podcasts. That's twenty minutes more than millennials. In comparison,
Baby boomers the older are about seventy seven minutes a day.
But you know, that's why we were talking earlier about
somewhere around forty and below they've gone digital. Fifty plus
is still maybe television and radio, but things have shifted
and how it's delivered is really a big part of
(01:36):
the difference. But the content is king, and then the
question becomes how long are they listening? So this shift
has taken place, the room should reflect it is ultimately
we're talking about. But you know, who are these people
and who are these influences and how do they play
in American politics moving forward?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
David, I guess is the question we're exploring.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Well again, I'm going to come back to the fact
that there's a hunger for long format audio and it's
in the hungers for content. And now there's a significant
portion of all of podcasting that is pure entertainment, and
it's sometimes it's masked in different forms of storytelling. That's
sort of a pseudo news or pseudo documentary. But it's
basically entertainment, which is great. I mean, there's no problem
(02:18):
with that. People are looking for thought, that's the point.
They're looking for thought, for escape, like the crime things
is really escape, and that's fine too, that's fine too,
but that's still escape in the mind.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
That's healthy.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Now, would the god we would actually somehow restore an
affection for reading books to go along with that, because
that would help us as well. But when we're in
the realm of thought and long form audio, we're in
the realm of ideas, which is much different than being
on the realm of simply being entertained by pictures on
the screen.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
So you're going to play chests and not checkers. Why
it depends?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Why are you even bothering with ABC, NBC and CBS.
Why are you even bothering with c in an MSNBC? Why
send people there to defend yourself, you know, or have
them just or deal with their attacks. Just move on
where America has already moved to.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
It's a generational hang on and because a lot of
people still at home will turn on when they get
home they will turn on the television. Said, a lot
of people still turn it on and so that that
stuff is there through their early evening hours before they
move to streaming video.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Right, Because then that's the other question, because.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Let's let's take these numbers and compare streaming video versus
network television and network television programs, and then you see
the same situation crash.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
You have a network television show on NBC that used
to be a big deal. Now if you're not on
Netflix or Amazon, you're not a big deal.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
That's what everybody talks about. And so things have changed.
I don't think it's because people are dumb.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
But how do you come up, Like, let's come full
circle to what I brought up, which was two things
the chess versus checkers, but also the shared experience observation.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
It's gonna be really.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Hot, you know that not having shared experiences and everybody's
so fragmented. We don't have common experiences, so we don't
have common touch points or things that we can talk about.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
And the only thing that's saving network television is the
shared experience of sports.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, that they're ruining with gambling, yeah, in referee, completely
destroying with gambling.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Yeah, but I guess then that's another form of a
shared experience for some people.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I guess yeah, No, So how well, I mean there's
two obvious questions, all right, So, yeah, those chairs should
be filled, probably with Charlemagne, But is it smart for
Charlemagne to do it? Probably with Joe Rogan. But would
it be smart for Joe Rogan to do it? I mean,
who should go in that room?
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Well, there's where the podcasters are going to find it
interesting because and we do podcasting as well, so I mean,
long format audio is the same thing.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
It's all to me becoming the same thing.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
But what these folks are going to recognize, and you
were kind of intimating to it earlier, is if you
actually want to get involved in covering what's happening in
public policy, the more the merrier. Look, we have five
hundred and thirty five people in Congress, and a lot
of them need to go, and they're not going to
go until there's shared experiences happening across the country that
people can understand why it's important that we come up
(05:06):
with a new model of governance that requires thoughts, ideas,
and conversations. The more the merrier, Okay, but the fact
is that the podcaster is going to find out that
covering public policy is really hard work. It's not like
just turning on the microphone and talking to somebody.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
People recognize this, so I'll use it as an example.
This wasn't the case with Joe Biden. Joe Biden entered
office old and entered the corpse and left to corpse.
But you know, we were always fascinated how presidents would age.
Nice to correct the joke after height, here's a Barack
Obama high aged, not Barack Obama. But but yeah, policy
(05:43):
will aid you, it'll make it.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
It's it.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
You better guard your heart and mind because it'll it'll
destroy you just following it.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
There's no higher level of accountability other than what we
would call in the old terms the sacred desk. People
being held accountable for every single word because they're presuming
to be t or presuming to be informers. And you
don't want to be wrong unless you're unless you're a scam.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
So here's the bottom line.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I'm watching you know, the reporters, they don't know what
to do, so you know they get Holman on the street.
Are you using military planes? We're going to use whatever
assets we have to to deport these people. But are
you making distinction. We're going to deport anybody that is
up to no good, whether they're in a skite, but
they're playing the old gotcha game, and they don't realize
(06:28):
that they're already got it. They're already gotcha, they're already out,
they're already irrelevant. And so I get this sense that
for the first time in a long time, or maybe
Rush would be the last example of where the Republicans
are playing chess and the left media was playing checkers,
but that didn't even hold throughout his career. So are
(06:49):
the Republicans starting to play chess and the Democrats playing checkers?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Because I don't know what they're next.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
I will tell you this for certainty, Trump is playing chess.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Whether or not Trump Republican, only history will tell. Well,
that's true, that's true.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
He's a free agent, yeah, and so is most of
the people surrounding him, and the moves the press room
is a move of free agency.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, because the McConnell's of the world, they'd all still
be playing check I was sorry.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Man, I'm glad I hadn't even breakfast. You just mentioned
his name. He's on my list this week. McConnell who
pulls with John McCain and votes no against Pete Haig
Seth just to flip the middle finger to President Trump
on his way out.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah, that's just hating Trump more than you love America.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Yeah, mister McConnell is having strokes in public.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I gotta have mercy on him. I mean, I feel
sorry for him.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
And he has still not withdrawn from the twenty twenty
six reelection bit. He's been there forty two years and
he still wants to.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
I don't they don't leave till the coroner arrives. You
know that totag thing. I mean't that was just the
Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
No, they all stay till the tot tech. Well, they're
making millions. I you know, I'm in awe of that.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
You know, it's like.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Me.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I mean, first of all, I don't want to be
here one day after I have nothing to offer. I mean,
I don't want to be That has been number one.
Number two. I really love my wife. I want to
have a decade decade and a half with her alone,
and you know, and put life into perspective and be
with our grandkids. I don't understand these people that stay
and then when they finally do leave, if they do leave,
they go run for governor. Is we're about to have
in Tennessee? I mean, go, I'm going to be a grandma.
(08:22):
I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Do you?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Sounds like Senator Peters, who just announced yesterday that he's
not running for reelection in Michigan, which definitely makes twenty
twenty six look.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Well a little more interesting.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I didn't want to railroad you into another day, but
that's actually a full segment we need to do. That
is such a key seat, and it's brewing. This is twofold.
I know we need to go one would I used
to say this, but I can't anymore because now Trump's
acknowledged it. I think our congressman for Tennessee is proposing
(08:54):
it a third term from Trump.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
I hope they don't go there.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
What I saw brewing was Donald Trump being a complete
game changer and beginning a reawakening revolution and really the
midterm election being his second term and then hand a
torch off to what looks like it's going to be JD.
Vance and the future. That's what I was hoping for.
(09:18):
But that seems to be on the horizon, and he
carried Michigan. I don't have to tell you in this
twenty twenty four election, and that seat could be a
real game changer. Michigan can once again have a real
say in the direction of this country.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
The Senate is what it's all about. Michael sends sixty
to the Senate. That's the answer for America's problems. If
we get send sixty constitutionalists there and who aren't interested
in being toe tagged, that would be a difference.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, and that's my fear that America's going to live
this in real time and say, oh, that was Donald Trump. No,
it was us recognizing what he recognized, putting him in
office to take care of that, and us to continue.
It's like what I always say, if this ends with, oh,
put Donald Trump on Mount Rushmore, he was a phenomenon. No, No,
(10:07):
we were the intent all along. And the People's House
and the Senate is where it really matters. I don't
know that that those dots have been connected yet. No,
and this is again not something that's going to make
people popular.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
But in the policy world where we live at the
American Policy round Table, we're already thinking past twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
We have to past twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
We have to be thinking twelve, fourteen, sixteen years down
the road, because these trends take us somewhere, and it's
the ideas that prevail now when it comes to chest
to checkers. I mean, the progressors are sitting on the
side of the road saying, well, that didn't work. But
it doesn't mean there are at of bullets, a lot
of money. And you got Elizabeth Warren still out there.
I mean she may still make a comeback and run
for president. Who knows, Oh gosh, I hope.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
So miss a little, miss a lot, miss a lot,
and we'll miss you. It's Your Morning Show with Michael
Del Truno.
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